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Speaker 2: Night looking into mic. We gotta feed a beard.

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Speaker 1: That's the truth.

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Speaker 2: It's either drink the drug and just snool. I'm just

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Speaker 1: It's a great dad be I know the sun's still

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Speaker 2: It's hard times in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: I received an email from someone who I don't believe

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Speaker 1: I had received an email from before. He's from college station.

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Speaker 1: I didn't recognize the name, and it was about tributes

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Speaker 1: where he's from and his phone number was a quote,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was killed Central Time early Wednesday afternoon. Wednesday night.

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Speaker 1: We had an entire show plan and we scrapped that

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Speaker 1: Charlie and I resolved on Thursday evening when we walked away,

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Speaker 1: You know, I look at that situation as a positive.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, speaking from

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Speaker 2: So what is our Lord? And our world is filled

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Speaker 5: And we know that for those who love God, all

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Speaker 2: Already I have seen.

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Speaker 5: The worldwide outpouring of love for my husband. I've heard

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Speaker 2: But they should all know this. If you thought that

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Speaker 5: You have no idea what you just have unleashed across

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Speaker 5: The fire that you have ignited within.

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Speaker 4: This wife, the cries of this widow will echo around

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Speaker 5: To everyone listening tonight across America. The movement my husband

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Speaker 1: One of the things that people have said to me is,

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