1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody. Second hour of Clay 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: and Buck kicks off right now. We're joined by our 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: friend Carol Markwitch. He's a columnist for The New York 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Host and also is part of the Play and Buck 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: podcast network. Lease subscribe and you can hear the Carol 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Mark which show. Carol, appreciate you being with us. It's 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: been very tough news in the news cycles lately, but 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: we really wanted your perspective. So thank you for being here. 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. You've been fantastic on 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: this issue. I really appreciate all of it very much. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, it's you know, it's it's emotional for us. 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: It's emotional for us, and I think, I know I 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: can speak for this audience and saying that the sense 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: of solidarity that we have and we feel with Israel 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: and with the Jewish people in Israel and around the 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: world is something that's that's essential. Uh, And right now 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate yeah, right now, Carol, What is it that 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: is going on in this country and in other Western 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: countries as well? 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: Right? 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't you know I can't expect anything 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: what they're doing on the streets of Tehran. I mean, 24 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: it's a you know, murderous dictator, sharping with what London, 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: New York, Western countries, places where we've lived, places where 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: we expect some of these big rallies you're seeing that 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: are pro Palestinian. How do you, as as not just 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: a calumnist and a person who follows issue closely, but 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: as a as a dear friend of ours, and as 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: a Jewish person, as an American? How do you feel 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: about this? What's going on? 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: It's a really scary time, you know. Clay mentioned this, 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: but I moving to Florida and living in Florida has 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: been sort of the solace here because I feel so 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: safe in Florida. I went shooting this weekend, I know, 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: with some mutual friends of ours, and it felt really 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: good to feel like I could protect myself here, that 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: our family can protect themselves. But I think a lot 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: of jew around the world need to be asking themselves. 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Do I live somewhere where anybody cares about protecting me 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: and where they let me protect myself. There's been a 42 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: giant shift, and I think what happened in a lot 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: of these places and look to be fair. America I 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: think is at probably the best of all the Western 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: countries as far as Jews are concerned, as far as 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: Israel is concerned. But a lot of these places, London, Paris, 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: you know, just Sweden, they let in a lot of 48 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: people who do not match their values and who believe 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: that it's okay when you disagree with somebody to condone murder. 50 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, you know, it used to be that 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: we used to believe that that is not okay. You 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: guys are talking about, you know, Thomas Friedman earlier. A 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: lot of people have suddenly shifted their perspectives. It used 54 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: to be that you had to take a stand in 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: order to be moral, and now you get to kind 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: of be like, well, both sides, I don't know, could 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: be either one really here. It could be the ones 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: who invaded southern Israel and slaughtered toddlers and kidnapped grandmas. 59 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: Or it could be the ones who are taking week 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: to get into a ground invasion because they're being so 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: careful about civilians. There's a clear choice here. It's not 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: both sides. 63 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: Carol. 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: Your podcast now part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. 65 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 4: We're excited to have you there. I sometimes look at 66 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 4: what Joe Biden is doing walking on the beach while 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: there's at least ten American hostages. I want to give credit. 68 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: I know your family's Dallas Cowboy fans might pay you 69 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 4: a bit. But last night Philadelphia Eagles Buck left ten 70 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: open seats and they draped him in American flags in 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: honor of the ten American hostages that still remain in Hamas. 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: But Joe Biden just tweeted an hour ago, Carol, as Americans, 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: we must come together and reject Islamophobia and all forms 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: of bigotry and hatred. In his address last week, I 75 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: believe's on Thursday night, Carol, Joe Biden mentioned is lama 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: phobia more than he did Anti Semitism. 77 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: The left in this cut. I mean, it's crazy. 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: I think I miss stated a quote, but I know 79 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: it's making the round circulating. I wanted to get your 80 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: reaction to that. But also this, Barry Weiss tweeted a 81 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: lot of people. This is a quote from one of 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: the writers on her site. A lot of people woke 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: up on October seventh as liberals and went to bed 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 4: as conservatives. 85 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: What changed? How would you assessed that. 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 2: Writer is Constantine Kissen. 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the right thing. 88 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: Yes, piece, that piece is really good. What changed is 89 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: that a lot of people realized that they were They 90 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: thought that all of their friends were on the side 91 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: of civilization and on the side of like don't kill babies, 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: and suddenly it seemed that they woke up and their 93 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: friends did not care at all. You know, I have 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: to say as a conservative, that was not my experience. 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: A lot of my friends reached out to me, A 96 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: lot of people on Twitter have offered support. People like 97 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: you two have been again incredible, Megan Kelly has been incredible. 98 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: Just so many, so many people on the right have 99 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: been fantastic, and I didn't have this sense of wow, 100 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: where are my friends. I haven't unfriended anybody. I had 101 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: to block some trolls on Twitter, but I haven't you know, 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: cut out any actual friends during this time. But I 103 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: think for a lot of liberals this was an eye opener, 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: and they suddenly realized that what their grandparents were talking about, 105 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: you know, from the thirties and forties is could easily 106 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: happen now, and that some of their friends would just 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: help them onto the cattle carts and I think that 108 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: that is an eye opener. Constantine, actually, I would say 109 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: probably is left of center, and I think he's in 110 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 2: the last few years, has you know, woken up quote unquote, 111 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: because he is against the woke virus that's captured so 112 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: many of our institutions. And I think this has been 113 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 2: just another step in the direction of realizing that the 114 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: left is a problem. And you know, I've seen this 115 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: happening with Jews for a while. I think Jews are 116 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: moving rightward. Donald Trump got more Jewish votes than any 117 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: Republican had gotten before. Ron DeSantis got I think forty 118 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: percent of the Jewish vote and flow, which is high. 119 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: I actually think that's still low because of you know, 120 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: the amazing work he's done for Jews in Florida. But 121 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: I think Jews are moving rightward. They are opening their eyes. 122 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: I think a lot of liberals, whether Jewish or not, 123 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: are understanding that something has really shifted here. And I 124 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: do think we're going to see people understanding something that 125 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: they just did not understand before October seventh. 126 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Speaking to Carol Markowitz, Please subscribe to the Carol Markowitz 127 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Show on the Clay Book Podcast Network if you haven't 128 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: heard it. Carol's an important voice on a range of issues, 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: including this one, and Carol, you know we are seeing. 130 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it the way that the Democrat Party 131 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: handles this. On the one hand, you know, we don't like, 132 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: we don't go on air and just bashed Joe Biden 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: to bash Joe Biden. Some of Biden's statements on Israel 134 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: have been very good, and we've said that, you know, 135 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: some of what Biden has said has been very sound 136 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: on this issue. I mean, I would say a lot 137 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: of not all, but a lot of what he said 138 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: has been very sound on this issue. But the part 139 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: of this that I can help but notice as well 140 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: is that you never hear whether it's Biden or Schumer 141 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: or Pelosi, you know, the elder statesmen and states women, 142 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: if you will, as a Democrat party such as they are saying, hey, 143 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: this stuff from Rashida Talib man ilhan Omar, and just 144 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: more generally that you know, the BLM Chicago organization, et cetera, 145 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: that is outside of you know, what the Democrat Party is, 146 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: that is beyond the pale. We condemned that there seems 147 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: to be none of that. Am I missing? It has 148 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: that happened. 149 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: No, it really hasn't. And you're right about Joe Biden. 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: He has made some good statements on Israel, but these 151 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: latest ones about you know, any kind of that that 152 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: there's some sort of like bashing of Islamic's happening. That's 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: simply not true. You look at any of the videos 154 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: and college campuses, you look at any of the marches 155 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: and cities. It's Jews being targeted. It's absolutely not Muslims. 156 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: I think that's just a joke. But the fact is, yeah, 157 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: he said some good things. It just can we expect 158 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden to live up to this moment? Like you 159 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: guys said, he was at the beach this weekend. What 160 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: kind of president goes to the beach when the world 161 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: is on fire like this? It's just not acceptable. And 162 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: the fact is, like also, like you said, he doesn't 163 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: have advisors to say, hey, a stroll on the beach 164 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: is really inappropriate right now, And that is concerning to me. 165 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: He doesn't have a team around him to say this 166 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: is not the image that America should be projecting of 167 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: a dottering old man strolling on the beach while you know, 168 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: World War three is breaking out around him. I would 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: love to have the Biden administration live up to this moment. 170 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: I am rooting for the Biden administration. They are in 171 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: charge right now. I don't want anything bad to happen 172 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: while while they're in office. It's just, you know, we 173 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: should be rooting for our president. But the fact is, 174 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: I just don't see him living up to this moment, 175 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 2: and I think his administration is completely unprepared for it. 176 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: And the fact that their allies are some of the 177 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, biggest America haters and Israel haters around is 178 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: really not comforting to me. 179 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: Carol. 180 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: This is a big discussion, and I don't think that 181 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: this story in particular necessarily epitomizes it. But we're seeing 182 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: a lot of college kids suddenly realize, hey, wait a minute, 183 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: there can be consequences for some of the public opinions 184 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: I share out there. And there are kids who are 185 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: losing job offers because they're coming out and they're saying 186 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: that Hamas was justified or that Israel deserved what happened 187 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 4: to them? What should in your mind, I'm talking about 188 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: college kids, not people who are older, although I think 189 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: you could certainly have that conversation. What do you think 190 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: is legitimate in terms of a response to people who 191 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: say Hamas was justified or Israel deserved it in their 192 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 4: larger life. 193 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: It's just how do you watch those videos and think 194 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: that anybody deserves it. If it was the reverse, If 195 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: Israel marched into Gaza, beheaded babies, raped women, killed teenagers, 196 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: took elderly people hostage, I assure you I would not 197 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: be standing with Israel. It's not a this is my 198 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: side and that's it. You have to look at what happened. 199 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: They live streamed it, and still people are like, well, 200 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure I saw what I saw. 201 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: Israel had to present these videos today, two journalists to 202 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: stop this misinformation from spreading. Where the things that we 203 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: all saw happened and people are denying happened. What do 204 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: I think should happen to college kids? I'm sorry, they're 205 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: not kids. They're grown ups at this point. They're old 206 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: enough to vote, they're old enough to join the military. 207 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: They're old enough to make us live under their rules 208 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: for the last, you know, decade or so. These college 209 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: kids have enforced this cancel culture all around. If you 210 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: wore a maga hat, that was okay to destroy your life. 211 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: I had a piece up on Fox a few days 212 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: ago where I told the story people might not remember 213 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: a student at the University of Virginia who was expelled 214 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: because she made a negative comment to a BLM protest. 215 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: She said, you know, you'd make good road kill or something, 216 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: and she never actually even said that. She didn't say 217 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: anything like that, and it was a lie, and she 218 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: still got expelled. So do I feel sorry for these 219 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: kids who are celebrating the slaughter of other people, of children, 220 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: et cetera. I'm sorry. I can't feel sorry for them. 221 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: This is the cancel culture that they created, and that now, yeah, 222 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna have to live under the circumstances 223 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: that you've developed for the rest of us. We didn't 224 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: want this. I didn't want to live in a place 225 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: where you couldn't say what you thought, even if it 226 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: was heinous. But that's where we are, and unfortunately, that's 227 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: you know, where we're going to have to be for 228 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: a while. There's also a great piece by Mary Katherine 229 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Ham today on OutKick where she says that this is 230 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: what it used to be before cancel culture. You couldn't 231 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: go around saying it's okay to kill children, and that's fine, 232 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: And hope that your job wouldn care this was always 233 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: an issue. 234 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: You can it like that, this, Carol. You know, it's 235 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: interesting because reasonable people can know reasonable people can understand that. Yeah, 236 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: sure we believe it. We believe in free space each 237 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: but you know, calling for the extermination of human beings 238 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: or celebrating people's murders or deaths like that's that's different 239 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: than you know, arguing over the marginal tax rate or 240 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: immigration numbers or whatever. Right, and and here we've seen 241 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: that there are some red lines left for most people. 242 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: I guess at some level, maybe that's encouraging that even 243 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: in America today, there's a majority. It's obviously in all, 244 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: not all, but there's a majority that understands that it's 245 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: not okay to have the opinion that anything that happened 246 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: here with Hamas was anything other than the worst thing 247 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: that a human being can do, right, Like that's there 248 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: is no other opinion that a reasonable ethical person could have. 249 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: And a majority, not all, but I think a majority 250 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: of Americans get that. 251 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think that America and Americans have 252 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: the right perspective here in general, and it is allowed 253 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: minority who is presenting this other point of view and 254 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: turn turning the paragliders who slaughtered, you know, teenagers at 255 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: a music festival into some kind of heroes. I think 256 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: that that is a minority. They are very loud, and 257 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: I think that they should live up to the consequences 258 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: of these terrible opinions that they have. Also, the videos 259 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: of grown people ripping down the kidnap posters in various cities. 260 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: In Miami, there was a dentist who tore down these posters. 261 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: In New York and in other places, people are pulling 262 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: down these posters and they're being identified and fired from 263 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: their jobs. Well, I wouldn't feel comfortable going to a 264 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,119 Speaker 2: dentist that thought that nobody should see that hamas kidnapped toddlers. 265 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: I don't think that most people should feel okay in 266 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: that dental seat. I don't wouldn't you know, I wouldn't 267 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: want to get an MRI machine with a technician who 268 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: has been tearing down pictures of grandma's who are held 269 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: hostage in Gaza. None of that is okay. And I 270 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: think it's totally fine to say, yes, these people should 271 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: be fired, Yes these college kids should lose their job. 272 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: Offers yes, they should consider the things that they're saying 273 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: and the things that they're doing, and really, you know, 274 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: live a different life. 275 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: Mark What's Everybody? 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Joe Biden 299 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: just in the last hour sent out a tweet saying 300 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: we have to be careful not to engage in Islamophobia. 301 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: I don't know that that's the number one message that 302 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: America needs to hear right now, Buck, especially while I 303 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: think we have a cut of this. Elon Omar basically 304 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: is working as the propaganda arm for hamas she, of 305 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: course is a Democrat congresswoman. Listen to this exchange with 306 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: a reporter that just took place. 307 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 2: How many more killings is enough for you? Is it 308 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: a thousand more, two thousand more, three thousand? How many 309 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: more Palestinians would make you happy? If they die you, 310 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: will you be fine? If all of the people have 311 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: gotsa were gone, will that make you have a Would 312 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: that be the thing that makes you out? 313 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: And maybe that's the question we should ask me. 314 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: Chi is he okay, how many more plus senior lives? 315 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: Is he comfortable? Because I am not comfortable with anyone. 316 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean I could actually answer to some degree that question. 317 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: Every member of Hamas, all leadership of Hamas, and anyone 318 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: who had anything to do with this attack should either 319 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: be captured or killed by the Israeli security forces. Everymen, 320 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: single one of them, dead or in prison. That's the answer. 321 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: And that's what the IDEF is trying to do. This 322 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: notion that Israel is trying to just destroy Gaza and 323 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: destroy all these civilians. Israel could have done that one 324 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: hundred times over any time it wanted, for the last 325 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: well for decades. 326 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: Now. 327 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: That is not the mission. That's not what they're trying 328 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: to do. They have a just conflict, a just war. 329 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: And the answer is every member of Hamas who had 330 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: anything to do with this, and anyone really in Hamas, 331 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: because they all had something to do with this, they're 332 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: all part of this cause, dead or in prison. That 333 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: is the mission. And that is just. 334 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: My concern, Buck, is that this is the pivot point 335 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: that they're going to try, and they're clearly making it, 336 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: is that they are the actual victims and Israel is 337 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: the aggressor, and so they lash out kill fourteen hundred people. 338 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: Israel responds, and the response becomes, oh, see, both sides 339 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: are guilty of human rights violations. 340 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, the. 341 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 4: Side that started the war can't then curl up in 342 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: the fetal position and get disappointed when the side that's 343 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: been attacked the sides that they need to respond. 344 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is it's not new clay. 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He has eighteen number one best selling 371 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: books in his killing series, The latest Killing the Witches, 372 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: The Horror of Salem, Massachusetts. I have my copy. I'm 373 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: excited to be reading it here soon. Also going to 374 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly dot com for his No Spin news each 375 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: day during the week. Bill appreciates you being with us. 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: It's been you know, a really gut wrenching news cycle. 377 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: Now for a couple of weeks, I want to start 378 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: with this. You know, if you just bring your perspective 379 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: to it, how do you think the administration's handled this 380 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: so far? How do you think Biden's handled the worst 381 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: attack on worst attack on Jews in terms of loss 382 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: of life in one day since the Holocaust. 383 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: Contemporaneously, He's handled it Okay, He's following the advice of 384 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: his national security team, and he hasn't screwed up as 385 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: far as day to day operations are concerned. But the 386 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: whole thing disorder the world has declined dramatically in the 387 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: last three years since he was elected. And that's the 388 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: major story for Americans to understand. So when you bring 389 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: in a president as week as Joe Biden, and there's 390 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: no two sides to that story, Anybody say he's a 391 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: strong president, So they're lying a delusional when you bring 392 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: somebody in who's weak, they're going to be unintended consequences 393 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: of that. So I was having a conversation with an 394 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: old friend who came into town this weekend. He's a 395 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: big Biden supporter, and I went, do you understand that 396 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: under Trump, even though you hate him. There was no 397 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: disorder in the world. There were problems, but no Ukraine, 398 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: no Iran ordering Hamas to murder Jews, no China, saber 399 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: rattling over Taiwan to the extent that we have to 400 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: send warships to the region. We didn't have any of that. 401 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: Does that matter to you? And you know what, it didn't. 402 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: The guy hates Trump so much it wouldn't matter what 403 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: Biden did. And that's pretty sad. Bill. 404 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: First of all, much less serious. My dad read Killing 405 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 4: the Witches. My mom is halfway through. They pilford it 406 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 4: out of my house, so they didn't buy a coffee. 407 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: I got a free one, thank you. But they both 408 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: say that it's genuinely fantastic. They have really enjoyed it, 409 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: so's they wanted me to let you know. They couldn't 410 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: stop talking about it when I saw him over the weekend. 411 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: So that's going. 412 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: Nice, Clay. I mean, it shows you have very smart parents. 413 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. 414 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: You know. 415 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: We're telling everybody this is the best Halloween book, with 416 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: apologies to Edgar Allan Poe that you can find. But 417 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: it's a very serious book in the sense that the 418 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 3: witch on his back in the form of cancel culture. 419 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 3: Can extend that to the news cycle that Buck was 420 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: just talking about in New York over the weekend. You 421 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 3: guys know this. There are five thousand people, many of 422 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 3: whom taunting the police, trying to close down avenues in 423 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: the city. And you saw a social disorder here at 424 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: a very high level. No respect to the police whatsoever, 425 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 3: no respect for their safety. I don't mind people demonstrating 426 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: in favor of Palestine. I mean, you know Palestinian people. Look, 427 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: that's freedom of speech. I understand the issue. And anybody 428 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: who says it's a cease fire, I mean, what are 429 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: you doing? Do we have a cease fire after nine 430 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: to eleven without kaita Ay may call for that, no, 431 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: but why would you call for it now? 432 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 433 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: And so you know when I say cancel culture is 434 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: a new witch hunt in the world that these nuts 435 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 3: live in. The people out there taunting the police, they're noble. 436 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: They think that they're the best, and that if you 437 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: don't agree with them, you should be hurt and without 438 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: any due process, which is what they did in Salem. 439 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: So anyway, I wrote That's why I wrote the book, 440 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: because the witch hun his back. But I appreciate your 441 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: parents reading it, and you got to buy a bunch 442 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 3: of copies for your other relatives. 443 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: I'll make sure he does, Bill, I'll hold him to it. 444 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: All right. 445 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: I'm getting I'm gonna be honest with you, Bill, You 446 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: and I I think are on the right side here. 447 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: Still about Biden not being the nominee in twenty four Bye, 448 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: But I just want to let I just want to 449 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: lay it out. Buck is Buck, I've been getting nervous 450 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 4: about this, all right. We're almost a Halloween, right, Thanksgiving 451 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: everybody kind of shuts down, families get together, then you 452 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: got Christmas, New Year's. Are you getting nervous that the 453 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 4: Democrats are actually crazy enough to run Biden and he 454 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 4: isn't going to be the nominee or do you still 455 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: believe they're going to find a way to force him out? 456 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 3: Number one, I never get nervous. I make other people. 457 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: That is a great line. 458 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: All right. Biden can resign up to convention time, yep. Okay, 459 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: so there's no time crush right now. Number three, If 460 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: you follow the news cycle, the Oversight Committee came out 461 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: with a check yep from Jim Biden to Joe Biden 462 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: for two hundred thousand dollars unexplained. We don't know whether 463 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: Biden put that check on his income tax return. That's 464 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: the next big thing. The check was allegedly written the 465 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: day that Jim Biden, the brother got six hundred thousand 466 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: dollars from a medical corporation in distress that hired Jim 467 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: Biden to try to find a financial company to bail 468 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 3: out medical company. Now, why would you hire Jim Biden 469 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: to do that? Jim Biden's no juice. Okay, So what 470 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm saying to you is this is a stare step. 471 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 3: It's one after the other after the other after the other. 472 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: And when you combined the mental acuity declining with the 473 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: financial scandal growing, I don't see how the man runs. 474 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: And then listen, if Buck is right, then we'll take 475 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: him out to dinner. 476 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Right. I was gonna say, I want I want a 477 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: steak on Bill O'Reilly and Clay if this is right, 478 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: or I'll have one of Bill's famous pot roasts or something. 479 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, We'll we'll have to get something going here. 480 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this then, Bill, to 481 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: that end, let's just say that that's something. And I've 482 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: said all along to be fair. The one thing that 483 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of makes this clay is it is it a 484 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: push when the bets are Is that right? What's the push? 485 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? Right? 486 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: The one thing that kind of all bets or off 487 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: situation is obviously if Biden has a major health issue 488 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: which's old enough that could that could happen and that 489 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: could come out of nowhere. Now is he going to 490 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: say he has one versus does he actually have one? 491 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: That's something that people might debate if and when the 492 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: time comes, God forbid. But do you think they could 493 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: go forward with Kamala that or do you still think 494 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: that you had to a broker convention situation? Then the 495 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: DNC comes forward with somebody, I mean, what is your 496 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: assuming that you're you know, you're not sweating this one? 497 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Is your is your sense that at the convention the 498 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: Democrats just put forward a consensus candidate or do they 499 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: think that against Donald Trump, with all the indictments, Kamala 500 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Harris might actually be able to get it done if 501 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: she ascends. 502 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 3: If they were if the Democratic Party were confident in 503 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, she would already be front and center, all right. 504 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 3: So it's like, if you anybody listening to us right now. 505 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: Have a problem in your life, you have a plan 506 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 3: B or if you don't, you're a moron. Okay. So 507 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: so if this doesn't work out, I'm going to go 508 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 3: do this. There's not any do this with Kamala Harris 509 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: and the Democratic Party. She couldn't be more invisible, couldn't be. 510 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: I mean Claude Raines in the Invisible Man was seen 511 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: more than Vice President Harris. Okay, so they know she's 512 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: a disaster. Now, if Biden is has to resign for 513 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: medical reasons, she'll be a placeholder. She'll have a game done, 514 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: but she'll be there. But I would assume there'll be 515 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 3: a wide open scurry for the nomination, and people don't 516 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: understand how it works. You don't have to win the 517 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: primaries to get the nomination. You have to show up 518 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 3: the Chicago and convince the delegates there that they should 519 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: give their votes to you on the premises at the convention. 520 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: Right Michelle Obama wanted to run for president, for example, 521 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: she's not going to go to Iowa to campaign. It's 522 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 3: not going to do any of that. She'd just show 523 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: up and she lives right down the street. She just 524 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: kind of walk on over. Hey, I'm ready and they'll 525 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: go okay, and that's how it'll go down. 526 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 4: So you still think it'll be Michelle Obama as the nominee. 527 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't because I've seen no indications from the 528 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: former first Lady. 529 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: So who would you get? 530 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's an interesting point if you had to 531 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 4: pick somebody. I've said, Gavin Newsom. You actually want to 532 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: ask Bill. 533 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: Can I piggyback on one of your Do you think 534 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: that Gretchen Whitmer or Gavin Newsom is more formidable in 535 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: the eyes of the DNC. 536 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: Well, Gavin Newsom with the attack on parents in California, 537 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: it's over. It's over for him. And most Americans don't 538 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. But Sacramento has passed a 539 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: series of bills basically saying that the state will take 540 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: your child away if your child wants to be taken away, 541 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: no welfare services, no child protection agency. If the child 542 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: doesn't want to live with you older than twelve, John 543 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: can just both stay, will take care of the child. 544 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? And you get into that territory 545 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: just like Youngkin in Virginia who beat mccallough because McColl said, 546 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: your parents shouldn't have to raise your choulder and where 547 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: school tell you what to do. Remember that that was 548 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: the end of him. Well, once the Republicans start to 549 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: actually spotlight what Gavin Newsom has done, and then I'll 550 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: just show just show pictures of San Francisco and Los Angeles, 551 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: so all you need to do. Trump would beat him 552 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: by eight or nine points. 553 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: That would be fair. So who do you think they 554 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: would pick? Who would be their option? 555 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: If you buddy, who's kind of not well known so 556 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: that you know, Whitmer? I don't know Whitmer. I mean, 557 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: I know we're but I don't have any feeling for 558 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: the woman. 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But because it's if you think he's bad, now, 568 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: project out three years from now. 569 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: No, well he can't finish the second there's no way. Yeah, 570 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean way, Bill, O'Reilly. 571 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: The book Killing the Witches comes with the Travis mom 572 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 4: and Dad stamp of approval. 573 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: Bill. 574 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. We'll talk to you again soon. 575 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 3: All right, guys, always fun, Thank you very much, thanking. 576 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: Me, Thank you. 577 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: Name one college or university operates without accepting a penny 578 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: of government money. 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Catch up on any part of 598 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: the show you might have missed. Find every podcast as 599 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: they're released and listen. 600 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: Fine the Clay and Buck app in your app store 601 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 4: and make it part of your dad Welcome back in 602 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you. Thanks 603 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: to Carol Markowitz and Bill O'Reilly who have hung out 604 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: with us here in this hour. We'll take your calls. 605 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: We'll roll through the final hour. No guests eight hundred 606 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: and two two two eight A two. Want to keep 607 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: you updated. We haven't talked very much about the hostages 608 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: so far today. There are some cautious optimism. Two American 609 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: hostages were released on Friday. We talked about that in 610 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 4: the show with You A Mom and a Daughter from Chicago. 611 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: There is some cautious optimism that dual nationals may be 612 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: released east. That does not, spell, by the way, very 613 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: good fate for those who are Jewish citizens as. There's 614 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: still a lot of bargaining power there, but it's rarely citizens. 615 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: Yes. 616 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: Hamas, by the way, grabbed a lot of people. It's 617 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: hard to know probably what the nationhood status was of 618 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: many of the people that they were grabbing when they 619 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: grabbed terrorists. I'm sure there wasn't some sort of deep 620 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 4: decision making necessarily about who exactly they grabbed. 621 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: But we'll see whether. 622 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: Or not that ends up coming to a fruition. Fingers 623 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: crossed that it could, and that those are the Americans. 624 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: Certainly I believe ten of them potentially getting back. But 625 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 4: there is a statement that has been made by border 626 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: patrol that there is a significant danger. This is probably 627 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: not going to surprise a lot of you, given the 628 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: fact that our southern border is wide open, that members 629 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: of Hesbola or Hamas could be trying to enter the 630 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: United States through our poorous, wide open southern border. That 631 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 4: is now a warning that has been given out by 632 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: officials at the border. Here's Peter Doucy of Fox News 633 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: discussing that just a little bit ago. 634 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 5: The Intel arm of CBP has a new bulletin out 635 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 5: and the headline is pretty alarming. It says, in bold 636 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 5: letters right at the top, foreign fighters of Israel Hamas 637 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 5: conflicts may be encountered at southwest border. The Daily Caller 638 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 5: got a copy of this material. 639 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: It was distributed three. 640 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 5: Days ago, and it's about Hamas Hezblat or Islamic Jehad 641 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 5: fighters exploiting the poorest border to get into the US. 642 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 5: Part of the concern is that terrorists can see a 643 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 5: ton of traffic down there. One rather, the new number 644 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 5: is two point four eight million encounters in a fiscal year, 645 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 5: and among them at least one hundred and seventy two 646 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: people from the. 647 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: Terror watch list. 648 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 5: That is one hundred and seventy two who actually came 649 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 5: face to face with law enforcement and didn't get away. 650 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: Buck. 651 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: This is going to happen, and I hate to say 652 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 4: that it's going to happen, but it is going to happen. 653 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 4: I don't know when someone who is a terrorist is 654 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: going to come through our southern border. Maybe some groups 655 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 4: of people remember it was only nineteen terrorists that inflicted 656 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: nine to eleven upon US. It's not like they needed 657 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 4: hundreds or thousands of people in the United States in 658 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 4: order to do so. There is going to be a 659 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 4: terror attack perpetrated. Again, I hate to say this, but 660 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 4: I feel almost certain that it's going to happen from 661 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: people who illegally entered the country through the southern border. 662 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 4: And the immediate response is going to be, how did 663 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: we ever let this happen? And those of us who 664 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: have been out there saying this is going to happen, 665 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 4: this is going to happen, are going to just kind 666 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 4: of throw up our hands and say it was obvious. 667 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: It was a clear opportunity to be able to illegally 668 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: get people into this country. They see just as easily 669 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 4: as you and me and everybody else does. Everybody pouring 670 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 4: across this southern border. It feels inevitable to me. It's 671 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 4: going to be awful, but it feels inevitable. 672 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: Well, this is why border patrol is putting out these 673 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: kinds of notices. And it's also remember it's not just 674 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: about the resources at the border. It's about what happens 675 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: when people come into the country illegally, and the Democrats 676 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: refuse to have a policy that turns people away who 677 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: are illegal, they all get to go through this asylum 678 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: process and that means that it's never been easier to 679 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: get in the country illegally than it is right now, 680 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: and it's clearly a national security vulnerability, there's no question 681 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: about that. Play will come back and get into the 682 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: latest here on the issue of the impending still Israeli 683 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: incursion into Gaza, and you know what that is going 684 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: to look like, the possibility of Hesibala getting involved in Lebanon, 685 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: expansion of the war, and some other issues that will 686 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: be touching on, including the House Speaker drama which Clay 687 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: you might have seen. The American people tired of that drama, 688 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 1: no doubt