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Speaker 1: Dragons season three finale. Be warned. Hello and it is
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Speaker 2: Garstists in today's episode, we have made it, guys.
Speaker 3: It's been a crazy bottle.
Speaker 2: We've traveled across the seas, We've flown in the skies.
Speaker 2: We've seen dragons fight on the ground.
Speaker 3: We've seen egg On be resurrected.
Speaker 2: All kinds of things are happening, and none of them
Speaker 2: are looking good for Rinerra. So we are here to
Speaker 2: talk about it. This is a crazy, action packed plus
Speaker 2: size episode. I believe it is an hour and ten
Speaker 2: minutes long, So watch that first and then listen to us,
Speaker 2: because we are going to be going ham on this one.
Speaker 1: We open on kings Landing, where gm O Grandmaster or Wild,
Speaker 1: demands to see the Queen. He's got some very very
Speaker 1: very important and sensitive and kind of mind blowing news
Speaker 1: to just say, like.
Speaker 3: One of the only people doing that job in kings Landing.
Speaker 2: How he's doing it, like he is keeping that shit going,
Speaker 2: like no one else is doing that fucking job. Everyone
Speaker 2: else is not doing it.
Speaker 3: He's Emo.
Speaker 1: I hope Gmo gets his due because he's crushing it.
Speaker 1: So soon after this, Rania bursts in on Damon and
Speaker 1: she's frantic and she says he has risen. And clearly
Speaker 1: we're talking about Eggon and Sunfire maybe you know, probably
Speaker 1: both of them together. You know Eggon's dragon that was
Speaker 1: quite clearly debt. I mean it looked dead.
Speaker 2: And people were reporting to everyone it's dead. People are
Speaker 2: touching a while it was confirmed dead. Like, I'm not blaming.
Speaker 3: This is not a bad information situation like this was.
Speaker 3: Everyone believed he was dead. Look, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You flew over, multiple over, multiple dragons flew over and
Speaker 1: were like, it's rotten and dead.
Speaker 2: The only person who knew egg he said that. He
Speaker 2: said she's not dead, broth and he was correct.
Speaker 1: Well, uh so, and Eggon is back also, And obviously
Speaker 1: this is as we said last episode, this is the
Speaker 1: kind of headline that writes its if you're the propagandist
Speaker 1: for Eggon, TARGERI and this ship writes itself, it's right,
Speaker 1: it's just it just describe it as it happened, and
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Damon doesn't believe it. And apparently Eggon, after
Speaker 1: his resurrection and the rere resurrection of Sunfire, completely devastated
Speaker 1: the army of Lord Mutin at Rooks.
Speaker 2: Fast because we saw him at least a little bit
Speaker 2: and it was all looking good for them.
Speaker 1: So the Queen's forces have taken a significant, significant bloodying.
Speaker 1: And of course the Green supporters, which I've now kind
Speaker 1: of fractured into supporters of Darren and supporters of Eggon Targarian.
Speaker 1: But be that as may, Eggon supporters are already sending
Speaker 1: ravens all around the realm trumpeting this fantastic news. The
Speaker 1: king is back from the dead and Sunfire is back
Speaker 1: from the dead with him. It's a resurrection.
Speaker 3: This is the god, said Sion.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Raniera is in I mean, she's crashing out,
Speaker 1: she's in a state tears, she aspir losing it. She's like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? You know, like, he's back
Speaker 1: and what are people gonna think. The small folk are
Speaker 1: gathering around the sept they're awaiting word that they're King
Speaker 1: who was once thought dead the anointed King has returned
Speaker 1: due to the grace of the gods. Riner is like,
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do about all of this? She's distressed,
Speaker 1: she's crying, damn it. He's like, babe, get your fucking
Speaker 1: act together. You're the blood of o And it's the
Speaker 1: kind of same peptid. I gotta say. He is a
Speaker 1: great speaker. This gives her.
Speaker 2: Him. Give him a sports team because he's given that
Speaker 2: last fucking quo a speech.
Speaker 3: And they are winning.
Speaker 1: Ever he is, he we've seen him do it multiple
Speaker 1: times this season.
Speaker 3: And King's God. His wife is nice about He'll.
Speaker 1: Do it the city watch. I really worry about what
Speaker 1: would happen if she ever loses him. But anyway, he's like, babe,
Speaker 1: get it together. You're the blood of oval Aia. You
Speaker 1: have great power at your command.
Speaker 3: Who gives Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck him, just wheeled the power, okay? And he then,
Speaker 1: you know, he talks her in hi Valaria and gives
Speaker 1: her the pep talk and says, listen, you see it
Speaker 1: now right. The realm respects strength, period. You're trying to
Speaker 1: be nice. The nice queen listens to everybody and whatever,
Speaker 1: be strong. Now be ruthless and strong. So they set
Speaker 1: a watch for Eggon's dragons. She like is steadied by this.
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, set watch, make sure that you got
Speaker 1: to watch the skies for dragons, Hugh. But you go
Speaker 1: and take a post outside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't watch.
Speaker 1: Do do that, she says, Damon. Forget the pussy footy
Speaker 1: pussy footing around.
Speaker 3: Go attack Tumbleton now, yep, you can do it.
Speaker 1: You can do it now. I put that under your
Speaker 1: control house. Do you after you get in there, go
Speaker 1: house to house, kill every high tower that you can find,
Speaker 1: to the last men. But the realm's watching, the realms watching.
Speaker 1: Don't make me look bad. Don't just like kill willy
Speaker 1: nilly women children, kill every last high tower, but leave
Speaker 1: the civilians alive. Okay, just make me look good. He says,
Speaker 1: you got it. Ormond and Darren are once they're dead,
Speaker 1: he says, we kill egg Gun Okay. Bye. Meanwhile, Bayla
Speaker 1: wants to know.
Speaker 3: This scene is so good.
Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to this at the head
Speaker 2: with I think a theory I have about Ridnera and
Speaker 2: her naming, and well, I think this season is actually
Speaker 2: saying about her.
Speaker 3: So yes, tell me this.
Speaker 1: So Bayla runs up and is like, hold on, I
Speaker 1: understand there's a lot going on right now, but like Corliss,
Speaker 1: the sea snake, your hand, my grandfather, my grandfather, and
Speaker 1: a person who's been instrumental to your rise and to
Speaker 1: your reign is currently being held by Ormond Tower, and
Speaker 1: you're not just gonna attack the city right and not
Speaker 1: rescue him first, Like we're gonna do that, right, We're
Speaker 1: gonna rescue him. And the Queen is like, listen, Damon's
Speaker 1: gonna look, he's gonna go house to house and kill everybody.
Speaker 1: And so he's gonna look. But you know, like it's
Speaker 1: an active kind of live situation, and we'll take things
Speaker 1: as not a great answer. I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: thing to do here is go, yes, of course. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: like you know, you expect David love best, but yeah,
Speaker 1: good luck. Bayla is like, well, I'm gonna go right now,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go get him. Uh I want to go,
Speaker 1: but Ver is like, no, we need you around here.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you flew over sunfire multiple times
Speaker 1: and reported back sunfire rotting in the fields, and now
Speaker 1: sunfire is alive running around with it. So I think
Speaker 1: you need to like kind of buckle down and follow
Speaker 1: orders right now, and also like do your job well,
Speaker 1: which I is if I think a fair position for
Speaker 1: Rnierer to take, but also like to be fair to Bela.
Speaker 1: That dragon was fucking dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was dead, exactly like it.
Speaker 2: This is one of those situations where both of them
Speaker 2: are in the right honestly, Like, I understand why Ravenera
Speaker 2: is pissed off.
Speaker 3: But Beyla didn't do anything wrong. The dragon dead. Baila's
Speaker 3: dad told you the.
Speaker 2: Dragon was dead, babe, Like everyone's telling you the dragon's dead.
Speaker 1: Bayla then flips it and says, well, actually, like ever,
Speaker 1: it's your fault that Lord Corlis is a prisoner because
Speaker 1: you could have given him, you know, some kind of
Speaker 1: small measure of appreciation in the form of legitimizing Alan
Speaker 1: your feuze to do that. Gimma hard No, drove him away,
Speaker 1: and now he's a prisoner, and that's your fault. You
Speaker 1: didn't repay him. You don't repay any of the people
Speaker 1: that serve You just use them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that line.
Speaker 1: You just use them and you throw them away. And
Speaker 1: Ranier is like, you know, she kind of tries to
Speaker 1: defend herself from this, but it's clear that Beyla landed
Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 1: Finally Baila is like, listen, I will speak to you
Speaker 1: in any manner I think is appropriate, okay, because let's
Speaker 1: face it, all you care about is this transactional relationship
Speaker 1: where if we have a dragon, you need it. So
Speaker 1: I'm exactly, I know that I have a dragon, and
Speaker 1: therefore you need me, so I will speak truth to power.
Speaker 1: Then Verneera grabs her by her like face, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and is like, look, kind of examines her insolence, runs
Speaker 1: in your blood yeah, and walks away.
Speaker 2: Because she's like She's like you know, yeah, She's like,
Speaker 2: this is your dad's blood. Bro. She's like, you're just
Speaker 2: let your dad. I gotta say so. I think something
Speaker 2: really interesting here we've been talking about is Venera having
Speaker 2: a pr problem. Is she bad at diplomacy? Is she
Speaker 2: bad at you know all this kind of stuff. The
Speaker 2: answer to all of that is yes, right. But a
Speaker 2: lot of the conversation I've seen online, like read it
Speaker 2: places like that, people are like, oh, she's not even
Speaker 2: really cruel, you know, And for a long time I
Speaker 2: did agree with that, but I kind of liked it
Speaker 2: because I was like, oh, it's one of those retellings, right,
Speaker 2: they're telling us like she's not even cruel, like that
Speaker 2: was a retelling in the histories because she was a woman.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I but that thing is I actually think it's different.
Speaker 2: I actually what I think the show's doing is they're
Speaker 2: showing all the different ways she is cruel and it's
Speaker 2: actually all these different cruelties, these disrespects, these ways that
Speaker 2: she does not respect those who serve her, who have
Speaker 2: supported her, That those cruelties are her fucking undoing, like
Speaker 2: every single time. And it actually is so crazy because
Speaker 2: we will see later on that she has this moment
Speaker 2: that could be a searing, heroic moment that I think
Speaker 2: could have changed the tides for her, but because of
Speaker 2: a cruelty she paid to somebody else.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not going to pay off.
Speaker 2: And it's so interesting. I think how cruelty is in
Speaker 2: these fucking interactions. She's so dumb, like just fucking be
Speaker 2: a legitimate human being, renevera But I know that's the
Speaker 2: whole point, right, Tulgarians aren't humans that aliens.
Speaker 3: They don't know how to treat other people.
Speaker 1: The Valarian men arrived from Driftmark to Kings Landing, where
Speaker 1: they meet Alan at the at the doorway, and they
Speaker 1: know that Corlis is a prisoner, and so their expectation
Speaker 1: is We're going on a mission to rescue Corla's but
Speaker 1: Alan is like, no, no, no, you're here to basically
Speaker 1: secure in the city. You know, the city Watch, remember,
Speaker 1: has basically disbanded, and so you're here to just kind
Speaker 1: of be on guard duty, be the police. They're not
Speaker 1: happy about this. They're like, well, our lord, this, that
Speaker 1: and the other. Yeah, said okay. Alan then kind of
Speaker 1: like you know, pulls rank and is like, listen, you
Speaker 1: wonder who I am. Oh, I'm Alan, not yet Valarian,
Speaker 1: but at one point probably okay. And Corlis has expressed
Speaker 1: his desire that I inherit Driftmark. Therefore I am his heir.
Speaker 1: Therefore I am your boss maybe soon. So you're gonna
Speaker 1: do what a funk I say, okay, because I'm like
Speaker 1: the lord of the Tides in waiting, and that appears
Speaker 1: to work, and I have to say, Rosie, I have
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, maybe it's a little unfair to Alan,
Speaker 1: but I get the sense that Alan is not exactly
Speaker 1: rushing to rescue Corliss and he like I think he
Speaker 1: likes it a little bit. I think he likes it
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: I do expect that that will be some disappointment in
Speaker 2: the pro Allan camp this week with his behaviors, but
Speaker 2: I actually think as somebody who grew up with a
Speaker 2: dad who was not around and also didn't have anything,
Speaker 2: I can also understand. I actually think it's a really
Speaker 2: interesting journey he goes on this episode because he is
Speaker 2: about to make the same mistakes everyone else does. What
Speaker 2: he's essentially trusting Raniera right to do the right thing
Speaker 2: after he helps her, and it is kind of really
Speaker 2: bleak to watch him take these steps and abandon this
Speaker 2: man who did abandon him.
Speaker 3: So I get it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, no, you can definitely tell Alan's making
Speaker 2: some moves here for his and Baylor's future for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. In Tumbleton, preparations for the battle are continuing. We'll
Speaker 1: foremaned talking about the High Tower Army says to Darren,
Speaker 1: all of this is for you, King Darman, and he
Speaker 1: points out that he now has said you know, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you're already we've already minted coins with you as a king,
Speaker 1: but like we kind of skipped a step we have
Speaker 1: tonight you and so just be aware of that, like
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, processes, you need to be knighted. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: outside the army is you know, basically getting all the
Speaker 1: small folk to like come into the city and shelter
Speaker 1: in place.
Speaker 2: And it's clear evil alments plans are so evil.
Speaker 3: This bitch is so niacal.
Speaker 1: It's very clear that a big part of his plan
Speaker 1: is get a lot of the civilians killed by gathering
Speaker 1: them in the city, like just around gates and stuff.
Speaker 1: Darren is knighted as Gwyn looks on and he gets
Speaker 1: his little night nickname is Cyberqut. During the daring as
Speaker 1: Silver War, as silver Wing looks on the gathering armies,
Speaker 1: Olf can entertain some of the small folk that you know,
Speaker 1: this kind of like improvised tavern of his. He says
Speaker 1: that Damon is not going to use his dragon against
Speaker 1: the town because Vernier won't let him. So he's giving
Speaker 1: out like important military intelligence here. But that's fine. He's
Speaker 1: complaining about, you know, he's basically talking about Damon being like.
Speaker 3: A shortab. He is being so brave at that time, and.
Speaker 1: He is drunk already and continuing it she's so drink
Speaker 1: back and rend in kings Landing, the Queen's handmaiden, brings
Speaker 1: news that Helena is not eating and the Masters are
Speaker 1: starting to become worried. So Rania or is a full
Speaker 1: escort to go to the Great scept you know, on
Speaker 1: top of this news, because today she's going to go there,
Speaker 1: she's going to get anointed when.
Speaker 3: Or it's not going to happen for you, babe, But it's.
Speaker 2: Doesn't does It's not good it looks because also you
Speaker 2: can't just go there and take the crowd that's there
Speaker 2: for egg On and say this is my crowd, like
Speaker 2: calm down, babe, Like.
Speaker 3: That's not a good vibe.
Speaker 2: You've got to go in with a sircy style plan,
Speaker 2: or you can't just go desperately though I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: The fit that she fucking gets off for this is.
Speaker 1: With the eye with the guy.
Speaker 2: It's this pointy eye makeup that makes her eyes look
Speaker 2: like a sup and she's and everyone's been talking about
Speaker 2: how incredible Emma Darcy's been doing Cyrax style kind of
Speaker 2: facial features in the movements of a dragon and becoming
Speaker 2: more dragon like. The craziest she goes and we really
Speaker 2: get that full transformation here, and it's so great.
Speaker 1: Missaria is chilling in a room when some guards enter
Speaker 1: and they bring in a bunch of big cases and luggage,
Speaker 1: and she's like what, And the handmaid is like, Hey,
Speaker 1: you've been fired.
Speaker 3: You're going to Pentos.
Speaker 1: You're going to pent Us with a healthy severance.
Speaker 3: And where's that money coming from?
Speaker 1: And that's why I believe that part of it is lie.
Speaker 1: I think they're dumb her on the fucking doc and
Speaker 1: your services here are at an end. We're gonna pack
Speaker 1: your shit up and just be ready to go. So
Speaker 1: Missari obviously is shocked about that.
Speaker 3: Can I just tell you, yeah, this is what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about. We're near the cool bitch.
Speaker 2: This girl was knee deep eating you out yesterday and
Speaker 2: now you ship her off. No, if I'm Raniera, I
Speaker 2: go to tell her this myself, and I say, I'm
Speaker 2: so worried about you.
Speaker 3: There's a huge war coming. I love you.
Speaker 2: Go to Pentos, live in luxury with your servants to
Speaker 2: can come and get you. She can't even do like
Speaker 2: the soft the breakup, Like she's so bad at this.
Speaker 2: She just fucking has her like chipped off and She's like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't need her now. Now I've got Damon and
Speaker 2: that's gonna come and bite her a bat in the
Speaker 2: ass so badly.
Speaker 1: Here's my here is my pushbacks, Like, okay, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me, And I don't disagree that this must hurt
Speaker 1: her somehow. That said, from Raniera's perspective, who is she?
Speaker 1: What the fuck am I worried about? Like she's what
Speaker 1: is she gonna tell? What is she gonna give somebody?
Speaker 1: She's shown herself to have no ability to do the
Speaker 1: job that she's been tasked with, so other than her
Speaker 1: going off with an axe to grind, yeah, she's incompetent.
Speaker 1: So like what am I necessarily worried about? But to
Speaker 1: your point, like I would keep her. I wouldn't fire
Speaker 1: her obviously, Like you're.
Speaker 3: Out, but you've been alone prepared for her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like keep her around doing I don't know, like
Speaker 1: put her in charge of the household night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is just let her be around, Like this bitch
Speaker 2: is a keep eying with you.
Speaker 3: She's gonna be bitter.
Speaker 2: She's gonna be out there talking about the Queta Boston's
Speaker 2: and you know, we immediately see how that bitterness impacts Ranera.
Speaker 1: That's why I think, and not to go all damon,
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna do this, just make her disappear.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna do either all yeah, Like it can't
Speaker 1: be just let her loose anyway, you.
Speaker 2: Know, with your useless gods man can't keep her in
Speaker 2: a fucking call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Helena is out in the gods wood crying, and
Speaker 1: you know, the guards come and they're like, it's time
Speaker 1: to go back to your corns. She sees in the
Speaker 1: courtyard of a kind of pale horse like from her dreams,
Speaker 1: attached to a wagon. Turns out that this is the
Speaker 1: wagon that's gonna transport Massaria to the docks or wherever
Speaker 1: the fuck she's going. And Massaria comes out, sees Helena
Speaker 1: and as like and tells Helena, by the way, your
Speaker 1: husband is alive and his dragon once thought that is alive,
Speaker 1: and you and your unborn child now are absolutely tremendous
Speaker 1: danger because Raniera, you know, is quite threatening hostage. As
Speaker 1: you know you're a hostage now. Ranier is never gonna
Speaker 1: release you. Huge bomb to drop, which just goes to
Speaker 1: prove the point of what we said. You don't want
Speaker 1: her out there poisoning the well.
Speaker 2: She's gonna be doing now, is just poisoning the well,
Speaker 2: Helena talk, gabon, she's poisoning the well.
Speaker 3: And that is the truth, talking about Queena, the fucking
Speaker 3: boss talk.
Speaker 2: You know. The truth is, like the thing is, Missaria
Speaker 2: is not it's not about the morals.
Speaker 3: Like now, she's just gonna wanna hurt.
Speaker 1: She's just mad. She's mad, Yeah, she's madd right. So
Speaker 1: Amon is sleeping having a really weird dream recovering from
Speaker 1: the poison and Alice is at his bedside nursing him,
Speaker 1: sees him wake up, gives him another potion to drink.
Speaker 1: He realizes, oh my god, my mom poisoned me. Amon
Speaker 1: is like, uh, you know, why do you care about me?
Speaker 1: Why do you care if I'm alone with her? Why
Speaker 1: do you care whether I live or die? What's going on?
Speaker 1: He admits that he killed his brother, although he doesn't
Speaker 1: realize I'm gonna still alive, and he's feeling really depressed
Speaker 1: and sad for himself. Alice says then gives him the
Speaker 1: full Lord dump and this is fantastic.
Speaker 2: This is new, right, this is new okay yea.
Speaker 1: So Alice says that back in the day when egg
Speaker 1: On the conqueror you know, was conquering the Seven Kingdoms
Speaker 1: and Blarry and the Black jud burned Hairn Hall like
Speaker 1: three days after it had been newly constructed finally after
Speaker 1: many many years of construction, and burned all of hair
Speaker 1: and the Black's sons along with her and the Black
Speaker 1: inside the castle, supposedly ending his line.
Speaker 3: It didn't.
Speaker 1: One boy survived, but he was of course very very
Speaker 1: burnt up. And his mother, who we should presume I
Speaker 1: think if this story is true, to mean that Alice
Speaker 1: is Hairing the Black's Queen, who's never really never really
Speaker 1: mentioned in the interesting hair and the Black's Queen didn't
Speaker 1: want him to die like loved her son and would
Speaker 1: do anything to save him. So she summoned measters around
Speaker 1: the Seven Kingdom how would she be able to do
Speaker 1: this with the war going or whatever, you know, brought doctors, masters,
Speaker 1: anyone who could possibly heal him to this burnt castle,
Speaker 1: and was not able to do it. So she turned
Speaker 1: to quote older cures and uncovered like ancient Riverland magic,
Speaker 1: old ancient magic that could cure what had been done
Speaker 1: to him. But of course dragonfire is magic.
Speaker 3: So you so cure it with magic.
Speaker 1: Right, you can't cure it with magic?
Speaker 2: She fucking eight this butterlog up mad. She is like,
Speaker 2: so good, she's crying you. Oh.
Speaker 1: But of course magic has a cost. So the search
Speaker 1: itself for the cure had incurred a tremendous cost on Alice.
Speaker 1: And basically the bottom line is she was cursed to
Speaker 1: live on but she was bound to the boundaries of
Speaker 1: the river Kings of old, which I take to mean
Speaker 1: she can't leave heron Hall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and essentially like because of the societal structure or.
Speaker 1: Those areas around hero and Hall, because we've seen her outside. Okay,
Speaker 1: so like the basic the grounds of heron Hall, or
Speaker 1: maybe the river lands writ large, but whatever the case,
Speaker 1: the boundaries of the river king here in the black
Speaker 1: the river King's kingdom. So whatever those boundaries are, they
Speaker 1: may not exactly line up with the river lands.
Speaker 2: And it's super bleak because of the structure of society.
Speaker 3: She just has to be like a maid because that's
Speaker 3: the only way people will ever perceive her.
Speaker 2: Right, So she was like extremely bleak, kind of common
Speaker 2: cook mad seven because she contville who she truly is,
Speaker 2: because she's one hundred plus years old.
Speaker 1: Right, so she was she had to remain here, and
Speaker 1: she's been serving the lords and ladies of heron Hall
Speaker 1: ever since. So this would make her over one hundred
Speaker 1: years old and certainly alone, living like this for one
Speaker 1: hundred years, which tells you a lot about her loneliness
Speaker 1: and why she's reaching out all the time to some
Speaker 1: man or whoever to save her and protect her and
Speaker 1: keep her company. And Aimond is like, wow, you know,
Speaker 1: I love this lady. So a little bit about Hair
Speaker 1: in the Black. So Heiring the Black is from the
Speaker 1: Iron Islands, the Iron Island raiders who had raided up
Speaker 1: and down the coastline and all around the Seven Kingdoms
Speaker 1: had over the years in the centuries, carved out significant
Speaker 1: holdings in the riverlands, and the strongest and the last
Speaker 1: of these kings was Heir in the Black, who had conquered,
Speaker 1: you know, huge swaths of the riverlands and was like
Speaker 1: a despot, was really hated, was very cruel, but like
Speaker 1: the river lords had to of him and by kind
Speaker 1: of exploiting in a kind of colonial fashion, his river kingdoms,
Speaker 1: the petty kingdoms, that under his command he was able
Speaker 1: to take all their resources and build this heron Hall.
Speaker 1: Uh and then of course died when Eggon burned it
Speaker 1: around him. So this is a crazy, crazy reveal, huge reveal.
Speaker 2: Well, this also is huge because if the future, from
Speaker 2: what I understand right, is that at some point Alice
Speaker 2: will claim that she has a child that.
Speaker 3: Is an Amen's child.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, And so that means now that that kid
Speaker 2: would be both Haron and I mean not technically, I
Speaker 2: mean like her future kid with Aim and it adds
Speaker 2: like an extra idea to them being.
Speaker 3: At that seat.
Speaker 1: Sure, I think you could write if if I think
Speaker 1: you can make a argument if Amen does indeed decide
Speaker 1: to go with the Alice plan, yes, that this is
Speaker 1: like I'm marrying my line to like hair in the
Speaker 1: black line, like a king, you know, So like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's I think there's I think there's something there.
Speaker 2: But this is pureitanical idea of like as I feel
Speaker 2: like the story hypothetically.
Speaker 1: We will see later in this episode if he does
Speaker 1: indeed fingers term or ship, we'll see Queen Ranier goes
Speaker 1: Helena's chambers is like you gotta fucking eat. Now, you
Speaker 1: have to do it, or I'm going to force you
Speaker 1: to do it. Helena's refers to her unborn child as
Speaker 1: he which makes Raniera's eyebrows go up. Ranier's like, is
Speaker 1: it a sun You know this? You dreamed about this?
Speaker 1: You know above that by the way, I wouldn't. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna harm you, okay, and you know me, like,
Speaker 1: how dare you think that? But Helena knows, like what's
Speaker 1: really going on? She says that in what must be
Speaker 1: a really cutting line for Rania, says that our father
Speaker 1: would hate you for this, meaning her imprisonment, forced feeding, torture,
Speaker 1: and the eventual probably murder of her baby. Raniera's like,
Speaker 1: are you fucking joking, bitch? Like I'm trying to honor
Speaker 1: his philosophy. And if I was Helena, I'd be like, okay,
Speaker 1: what's his philosophy? In one sentence?
Speaker 3: What is the long line? Babe?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Helena starts talking about in what seems to be
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 3: Like a like a topic machine. Do you think she's
Speaker 3: doing a Helena divergence?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: So she's like good.
Speaker 1: So She's like, you know, there's this very specific beetle
Speaker 1: that comes out in the summer. It it feeds on
Speaker 1: dumb and it's very beautiful blue and gold and purple,
Speaker 1: looks like a turtle. It's very very beautiful. Have you
Speaker 1: ever noticed it? And Raniera is like, bitch, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about?
Speaker 3: Like, well, are you going on about.
Speaker 1: My Helene is like, you can only find it in
Speaker 1: King's Landing. You know, it sustains itself itself on the
Speaker 1: waist of other creatures. You have to it's very very beautiful.
Speaker 1: And Rena's like, okay, yeah, yeah, well I look for it.
Speaker 1: I'll look for it, you know when it comes out.
Speaker 1: And Helene is like, you don't care about what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: do you? You don't care about anything I have to say.
Speaker 1: You don't care about real beauty. You're only pretending to care.
Speaker 1: And then she says all the things that you care
Speaker 1: about are ugly. This place is ugly. You are ugly.
Speaker 1: Sarnia then is like, oh yeah, I'll tell you it's ugly.
Speaker 4: Excuse and then forced to sort to eat and it's
Speaker 4: it's horrific, and.
Speaker 2: And also like I just want to say, there's so
Speaker 2: much great foreshadowing of the way they.
Speaker 3: Shoot the room in the window.
Speaker 2: It's just like so, you know, it's so so.
Speaker 1: Adam comes to see Alan and he's like, what are
Speaker 1: you up to?
Speaker 3: The fuck is going on.
Speaker 1: Alan is like, well, I'm guarding the queen. What do
Speaker 1: you mean. Adam warns Alan that listen an egg on
Speaker 1: his back and that news is, you know, like unhinged
Speaker 1: the queen and she's taking on a Baya Bayla is
Speaker 1: grounded now and she's the queen's looking crazy, like are
Speaker 1: you you need to pay attention to this? Are you
Speaker 1: aware of it? And I was like, yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: it's not my place to question the queen.
Speaker 3: She is the queen, okay.
Speaker 1: Adam basically says, like, you're prioritizing your proximity to the
Speaker 1: queen and not caring that their father, Lord Corlis, is
Speaker 1: a prisoner. And by the way, I think Adam basically
Speaker 1: says that this is because you're gonna get his stuff when.
Speaker 2: He dies in his place, and Alan's like, he doesn't
Speaker 2: deny it.
Speaker 1: And right after this, Rania, with full guard and compliment
Speaker 1: of soldiers, marches to the Great sept Larian soldiers every
Speaker 1: side and Prince Joffrey until let's take your break and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 2: Who Prince Jeffrey honestly like, let that kid go back
Speaker 2: to his tog areat iPad or whatever he's up to,
Speaker 2: like give the like you just woke this kid up
Speaker 2: from a nap.
Speaker 3: He is very chick, dragged.
Speaker 2: Into this little fucking nightmass situation by his stupid ass
Speaker 2: mom with his brown, bloody hash he hasn't dyed his
Speaker 2: hair yet off the learning that, like, come the fuck on, babe.
Speaker 1: He is extremely checked out. We go to Tumbleton. Defenser,
Speaker 1: I guess looking good. GWayne and Darren go up to
Speaker 1: the wall. They look out. There's a massive army out there.
Speaker 1: It looks, you know, from their perspective, this looks like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a blood bath. Ormond then orders little
Speaker 1: kids up to the wall, gets watered little five year olds.
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, go take your positions. Bold John Roxton
Speaker 1: comes up and gives Ormond the news that hey, Olf
Speaker 1: is missed and so that's bad. Ormond is like, okay,
Speaker 1: search high and low everywhere in the city. Find that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Darren is like Roxen and Ormond have some kind of
Speaker 1: master plan, which it should be obvious what it is
Speaker 1: by now. They have no idea what it is. GWayne
Speaker 1: notices how frustrated Ormond looks and realizes that whatever the
Speaker 1: plan is. It must be going wrong somehow, and Darren says, well, look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get on my dragon and fly
Speaker 1: against the enemy and I'm not looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: And GWayne is like, just go just maybe there's something
Speaker 1: else you could do. Maybe there's like another way we
Speaker 1: can have to kill yourself. Let's think about this. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Damon and Kraxi's appear over the battle over the city.
Speaker 1: Ormond is running around frantically, Where's elf? Where's Wayne goes
Speaker 1: to see Corlis in jail and it's clear that whatever
Speaker 1: GWayne was talking about with Darren, this is his plan.
Speaker 1: So he goes to Corliss and says hey, and Corlis
Speaker 1: is nursing his cutoff finger. He says, hey, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know what's happening, but it looks like
Speaker 1: there's gonna massacre that's going to shape up today, and
Speaker 1: I think if you listen to what I have to say,
Speaker 1: you'll agree that maybe we can save a lot of
Speaker 1: lives today. Meanwhile, Missaria is following the Queen's column to
Speaker 1: a great stept and she wants to get a front
Speaker 1: row seat of what's going on. As the Queen is riding,
Speaker 1: she sees some more anti queen graffiti that is, you know,
Speaker 1: she's a bastard, her kids are bastards, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And with his brown hat, his.
Speaker 1: Brown hair, and it's in this moment that she decides,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is important information and now is
Speaker 1: the time to tell my heir, Prince Strawfrey about the
Speaker 1: Eggon Prophecy Damon meets with Oscar Tully and Lord Dustin
Speaker 1: outside the walls of Tumbleton and gets the news that
Speaker 1: a high tower lord is coming out under a banner
Speaker 1: of truce and appears to want to talk to us.
Speaker 1: It's Sir GWayne. Gwayn comes with Corlis. Gwayn is like, hey,
Speaker 1: I understand it looks bad, and I understand that you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna wipe the floor with us, But you
Speaker 1: got to understand that Ormond doesn't care. Ormond is on
Speaker 1: a suicide mission. It's just going to be wanton death
Speaker 1: and destructions. It's needless, it's pointless. We don't have to
Speaker 1: do this, so it is a token of good faith.
Speaker 1: I am returning to you the King's hand Corals Valarion,
Speaker 1: take mercy on the people of Tumbleton, and take mercy
Speaker 1: on us, and don't just wipe the floor with us.
Speaker 1: I have come on behalf of Darren Turgarian king. He
Speaker 1: doesn't say king, Nope to basically sue for peace. And
Speaker 1: the pitch is this Darren gets kind of wild.
Speaker 3: He pitched this a tool. This is like, my guy,
Speaker 3: just don't pitch.
Speaker 2: Just pitch, like just staying alive, just like crazy, Just
Speaker 2: just pitch.
Speaker 3: Don't mutter us please.
Speaker 1: And he's like, listen, here it is Darren takes old
Speaker 1: Town and like the Reach or whatever, we talk about it.
Speaker 1: You know, we can negotiate that, and the queen takes
Speaker 1: everything else, so we divide up the realm. Corliss is like,
Speaker 1: you know, Corlis is like, listen, it is true that
Speaker 1: there are just many, many people in the country who
Speaker 1: don't think a woman can rule. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's impossible to not notice that the great houses, with
Speaker 1: the exception of the North, really who've sent the winter Wolves,
Speaker 1: have yet to pick a side there. Everybody's nervous. They're
Speaker 1: just waiting to see who's gonna come out on top.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe there's something to the plane,
Speaker 1: figure something out, says give you know, name Prince Darren
Speaker 1: lord paramount of the Reach, he'll never be a king. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's smart a plan, and that's like, well we didn't
Speaker 1: agree to that.
Speaker 3: Shut up, I'd be shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe that'll calm things down. Yeah. Gwyene is like, well,
Speaker 1: Corlos is like, shut up, shut up, shut up. He continues,
Speaker 1: He's like, when Darren Terina and then with the combined
Speaker 1: power of the Reach, the North of Riverlands and the
Speaker 1: veil Raniera, can you know, bring the West.
Speaker 3: And the Stormlins.
Speaker 1: I think it's good. And Corlis, we need to listen
Speaker 1: to Corlos. Damon realizes that GWayne and Corlis they don't
Speaker 1: yet realize that egg on his back having been uh
Speaker 1: you know, rejuvenate, rejuvenated, resurrected alongside his trick. Damon accuses
Speaker 1: Corlis of essentially being a coward who's been bought off
Speaker 1: by Darren and a couple of you know, warm meals.
Speaker 1: Corlis says, listen, what I just want peace? Like you
Speaker 1: don want to listen to me? Don't listen to me,
Speaker 1: demon said. Damon says, what do you want? Peace? Are
Speaker 1: dead high towers? And Damon of course wants to dead
Speaker 1: high tower. So Damon tells Damon says, listen, Corlis is
Speaker 1: my prisoner. Gawayne go back inside and we're gonna kill
Speaker 1: you soon. Meanwhile, Amon isn't heron hall, feeling like, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a dragon approaching. He's thinking it's vague Arnor, but no,
Speaker 1: it's sunfire sunfire lands and Eggon steps off, and Aimon
Speaker 1: is like, holy.
Speaker 3: Shit, dropping he's real. In this first moment.
Speaker 1: I think he doesn't know. Yah know, to your point,
Speaker 1: I think he's so he's seen so many weird things
Speaker 1: in this castle that in that moment he's like is
Speaker 1: this real? Is it an illusion? I don't know what
Speaker 1: this is?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: He soon comes to realize it is very real, because
Speaker 1: Egon slaps him in the face and says, you know,
Speaker 1: oh I should kill you. Yep, I should have sunfire
Speaker 1: burn you alive, you kin slayer.
Speaker 2: Usurper, and he says like some crazy bleak shit dude.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna appeal your skin off. Was it buds?
Speaker 3: Like he's really trying to rile it. But Amon's just like,
Speaker 3: I'm so happy I didn't kill my brother. I'm sappy.
Speaker 1: Aimon admits that you know, I did covet what you had,
Speaker 1: and I did try to kill you, and you'd be
Speaker 1: well within your rights to kill me. And and Egon
Speaker 1: is a little disappointed that he's not trying to defend himself.
Speaker 3: More and fight him.
Speaker 1: And yeah, as Alice looks on, Eggon says, get up,
Speaker 1: you fucking dumb bitch. You have no idea what's going
Speaker 1: on out there. Okay, we're going to Tumbleton. Amon is like, hey,
Speaker 1: I wanted you to meet my fiance Alice. Egon says, listen,
Speaker 1: here's what's going on outside. King Darren trying to usurp
Speaker 1: the crown, you know, because Aimon tried to kill you.
Speaker 3: Know, Nara said I'm dead and you're killing Nera.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, all this stuff, so shut up. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about whoever this lady is. Let's
Speaker 1: rally the fucking realm. Kill Nia and then after that
Speaker 1: maybe I'll pardon you. Okay, yeah, from all your crimes,
Speaker 1: but get up and be useful for one.
Speaker 2: Look, I gotta say, look, I'm not defending him. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna an apologize.
Speaker 3: It's a great moment for it. It's fucking sick.
Speaker 2: I love this, love this last couple of episodes for Eggar.
Speaker 2: It's so good, like I love this crazy comeback. I
Speaker 2: love this moment. I also think like there's something very
Speaker 2: contemporary and real and relatable if I was trapped with
Speaker 2: a sexy hundred year old which probably the only person
Speaker 2: who could break me out of it would be my
Speaker 2: sister slapping me in the face and being like.
Speaker 3: What the fuck is up?
Speaker 2: Like, come out of this dumb ass, fucking tower. And
Speaker 2: I feel like this is inevitably leading to a reveal
Speaker 2: that Vegar is somewhere in Haron halland has kind of
Speaker 2: been kept from Amon or something.
Speaker 3: That's how it feels to me.
Speaker 1: So Damon, Oscar Tully, and Sir Roderick have their war meeting.
Speaker 1: Damon will take to the air with Garaxis clear the
Speaker 1: walls often Silver Wing will provide air cover. Question Mark
Speaker 1: and the van of the Army, which will be the
Speaker 1: Winter Walls, will make the assault. Damon orders his commanders
Speaker 1: to take care to preserve life as much as possible,
Speaker 1: because the realm is watching quote the Queen's moral standing
Speaker 1: must remain absolute. And I gotta say I was proud
Speaker 1: of Damon for this. I didn't think he would I
Speaker 1: thought he would just be like, listen, the Queen wants
Speaker 1: us to be merciful, but like, yeah, I'll do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. But I saw I was surprised, I.
Speaker 3: Know, I was like, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Black Alice says that sounds boring, and then news arrives
Speaker 1: that Ormond has placed children on the walls, so there's
Speaker 1: a change of plan. Now Damon is like, okay, Lord Roderick,
Speaker 1: you are to attack the walls, breach them, and open
Speaker 1: the gates from the inside. And important note, you have
Speaker 1: come south on a mission to die for the Queen.
Speaker 1: You cannot die until the gates are open. And he's like, okay.
Speaker 3: Sounds good.
Speaker 2: Also I want to say, I want to say, uh vy,
Speaker 2: a big moment of growth here for Damon that he's like, okay,
Speaker 2: just go in and they.
Speaker 3: Kill the adults. He's like just trying to make us
Speaker 3: look bad. Like I feel like that's huge for him.
Speaker 2: Before he would have been like, killed those kids, that
Speaker 2: fucking ads, like I don't give a shit. A big
Speaker 2: moment for him. Then it leads to also one of
Speaker 2: my favorite scenes in the whole show.
Speaker 1: So Ranier arrives at the Great Sept with all of
Speaker 1: her soldiers and the High Sept that is like, I
Speaker 1: bring armed men in here. You can't do this. And
Speaker 1: Queen Raniero's like, you're gonna fucking annoint me today, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: and you have no choice and uh or else. And
Speaker 1: he's like, but I but you've heard the news, like
Speaker 1: the anointed king, King Eggon is back, he's been resurrected.
Speaker 1: There can be no clear sign that the gods favor him,
Speaker 1: and I just can't do it. Sorry, And you understand,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I fully understand his position. He's exact,
Speaker 1: but but you know, we all know.
Speaker 3: What I do. A little fake.
Speaker 2: I just like your fingers across because the Eggon's gonna
Speaker 2: come back, like sprinkle some olive oil, exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the Septon knows that this is
Speaker 1: where this is heading. And he's like, by the way,
Speaker 1: if you strike me down, you will declare a holy
Speaker 1: war on the faith and open up Pandora's box to
Speaker 1: release untold horrors. Vernier turns to Alan is like.
Speaker 3: Listen, she gives him the damon pep talk.
Speaker 1: You're the blood of Ovalaria.
Speaker 3: Minky, I screamed. I was like, oh my god, she's talking.
Speaker 2: All She's like, Alan, you're the blood of old Valeria,
Speaker 2: blood of Valerie relevant. She says, this is just a
Speaker 2: building of empty bones and stone, like they don't give
Speaker 2: me a ship about it.
Speaker 1: That was damon. You're the blood of o Valeria as
Speaker 1: a as a descendant of the valerianline. Valarion, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the you know, we've the Tarnians. Valarian has
Speaker 1: been homies since since Valeria Old Valario. Okay, so we've
Speaker 1: we've come down together. You got the blood of sort
Speaker 1: of the dragon in your veins, you yeah, he was
Speaker 1: never dragging this case. So in this case, so do
Speaker 1: what you gonna do, you know what I mean. Alan
Speaker 1: steps up and kills the high septum, then goes sick,
Speaker 1: I know, then goes outside and makes a speech for
Speaker 1: a while. GMO is I gotta say, looking a little.
Speaker 3: Bit, he's definitely like ship.
Speaker 2: This did not go as plaid like this is uh,
Speaker 2: we got a wild card here with this Alan situation.
Speaker 1: So she starts by noted that she is Visaras named Air,
Speaker 1: which is absolutely true, and she's.
Speaker 2: Got a sick fit on, and she's got the dragons
Speaker 2: and grass fit.
Speaker 1: Like and she says, like listen, even before I was
Speaker 1: just anointed okay, with the correct oils and the correct procedure,
Speaker 1: with the correct finger motions, all that shit. Even before
Speaker 1: I was named air by visaras my father, the anointed
Speaker 1: king of the Realm, my raid was prophesied.
Speaker 3: Uh oh.
Speaker 1: I have come to rule just as my ancestors did
Speaker 1: because of an ancient danger coming from the far North
Speaker 1: that only I can defeat. Only Turgarian can fix it.
Speaker 1: That means me the high Towers can't fulfill this prophecy.
Speaker 1: No one can't. It is me if your world is
Speaker 1: to survive. And by the way, everybody's out here just
Speaker 1: like taking a lunch break and they're hearing the shit I'm.
Speaker 2: Telling you, Like, I love this moment so much because
Speaker 2: what I love is like the way it is shot
Speaker 2: is they show you how like Raniera feels like she
Speaker 2: is saying it, and you believe it and you know
Speaker 2: it's true because we've seen the show and she looks
Speaker 2: so incredible and so powerful, and then you get that
Speaker 2: immediate cut to like Massaria and you're like, oh no,
Speaker 2: this is not going over well. You're like, it's Vaniera's
Speaker 2: main character moment in her head, but it's nothing for
Speaker 2: the people.
Speaker 1: So she says like, if your world is to survive,
Speaker 1: it's got to be me. I will let the way
Speaker 1: and only I can do it. In high Valerian, Rner
Speaker 1: then names herself the prince that was promised prophecy.
Speaker 3: I did love that moment so much.
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, sorry, is like, look at I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take this bitch now, and I'm gonna say she's Quita Bost.
Speaker 1: That's in the tumbleton. The winter Wolves are getting in position,
Speaker 1: they go up, the battle begins. No one can find
Speaker 1: it oflf. Meanwhile, as this battle is popping off, oh Steale,
Speaker 1: this rman learns that Darren behind his back, has open
Speaker 1: negotiations with Prince Damon and discovers the Sea Snake Lord
Speaker 1: Corliss not.
Speaker 2: In jail, and I think you start to realize that
Speaker 2: it's a fool, like a pause.
Speaker 1: It's falling apart, it's going sideways. Meanwhile, Damon gets the
Speaker 1: news that his people also cannot find ulf White, and
Speaker 1: Damon starts to get a pretty bad feeling. Hugh and
Speaker 1: Verma Thor show up, and Damon is confused because they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be a king's landing. So this stuff is
Speaker 1: just a mess. Damon and Karaxies are burning the walls.
Speaker 1: They burn the gate open. A couple of little kids
Speaker 1: who refuse to get out of the way. What were
Speaker 1: they thinking?
Speaker 3: I don't know what did they think? Like that that
Speaker 3: Damon wouldn't fun.
Speaker 1: They just froze.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe they were just scared to see it. Dragon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, when everybody runs.
Speaker 3: Away, run away with runaway guys.
Speaker 1: Just a couple of kids got burned. And now the
Speaker 1: city gates are fucking open, and and his Damon's forces
Speaker 1: are beginning to breach the city. We find Olf. He's
Speaker 1: passed out drunk and stills talking. He pants down on
Speaker 1: the shitter. Ormond is gagging at the scent of the
Speaker 1: feces and the vomit and whatever. Ormond then beats his
Speaker 1: ass in the dirt and is like, you fucking stupid motherfucker,
Speaker 1: get up, get.
Speaker 3: On your drag now now, you bitch.
Speaker 1: Damon is fighting through the streets. He turns he sees
Speaker 1: Hugh the Hammer looking for his wife and family. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's weird.
Speaker 2: That shouldn't be Also didn't kill him immediately again, big
Speaker 2: worf for Damon.
Speaker 1: GWayne meanwhile, begs Daryn to just get out of here,
Speaker 1: Fly out of here. Don't beat you so many people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't need another death. Just then, Ulf takes the air,
Speaker 1: turns his cloak, and begins burning the Queen's army outside
Speaker 1: the walls. This clearly is Ormond's secret plan.
Speaker 2: Also, I do have to say, hilarious GWayne moment where
Speaker 2: you do get I like GWayne and I like his pacifism.
Speaker 3: But they also did put a really funny moment here.
Speaker 2: Why you can He's like, oh wait, maybe we'll win,
Speaker 2: and it's like, for fuck's sake, like come on, like
Speaker 2: stick with the morality, babe.
Speaker 1: Lord Dustin finds Ormond and they fight on the wall.
Speaker 1: Dustin gets his arm cut off, but he still kills
Speaker 1: Ormond by stabbing him through the butthole with his sword.
Speaker 3: That's a good fucking from the North.
Speaker 2: I love this moment historically correct if you were ever
Speaker 2: into horrible.
Speaker 1: Histories books, which I was, Jesus correct.
Speaker 2: In medieval times they love to kill like a into
Speaker 2: high lord by like stabbing a hot poker up the butt,
Speaker 2: so this is cininically correct.
Speaker 1: Love draw quartering up until the early modern period is
Speaker 1: really yeah.
Speaker 3: They were loving a little drawing quarterly So that was great.
Speaker 3: And then this.
Speaker 2: Moment came Jason, which I'm so excited to talk to
Speaker 2: you about because I need to know if this is
Speaker 2: canon to the books.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Oflf comes and burns the wall of the
Speaker 1: town and ends up burning an Ormond and Roderic with it.
Speaker 1: So Olf is right now just like burn everything?
Speaker 2: Yes, eriterally comes over and he says fuck you too,
Speaker 2: and then he burns down, he burns Ormond.
Speaker 3: I love this class war Oflf moment.
Speaker 2: This is the one I just want to say, Look,
Speaker 2: this is why Jace did not want this man to.
Speaker 3: Have a dragon. And look he was right. Sorry Jace
Speaker 3: was a posh brat, but he strategically. But do I
Speaker 3: love to see this as a small folk person. Yes,
Speaker 3: I thought this was great turn in the books. Is
Speaker 3: this known that Off did it? Or is it because
Speaker 3: I know yeah, yeah, book we know he times.
Speaker 2: His cloak, but does he also tie his cloak on
Speaker 2: Tumbleton to like was it always a double?
Speaker 3: That is?
Speaker 1: No, that's not really that's what Yeah, they did. Off
Speaker 1: defects to the Green's mid battle.
Speaker 3: But here we kind of heath side.
Speaker 1: Yeah he does kind of. Well, the thing is like
Speaker 1: in Tumbleton. Tumbleton is the site of two battles. There
Speaker 1: are two. In the first battle, the Green Forces take
Speaker 1: the town. Lord Ormond high Tower is killed and defects
Speaker 1: mid battle, turning Cloak. Then there's a second battle interesting
Speaker 1: in which the Riverman, host led by Adam valeriy Un,
Speaker 1: launches a surprise attack to retake the town. So and
Speaker 1: Damon is president neither battle. So what I think they're
Speaker 1: doing is combining. They've combined these battles. I don't think
Speaker 1: there'll be a second Battle of Tumbleton that so, yeah,
Speaker 1: Alpha's burning everything. Corlis brings Damon the news that Ulphas
Speaker 1: turned his club. It's time to leave me.
Speaker 3: To say something. You know, Corlis, they're not paying you enough.
Speaker 3: Whatever they're paying you for that loyalty, it's not enough.
Speaker 2: Because Damon just turned his face up at your fucking
Speaker 2: peace offering. He choked out GWayne to the point where
Speaker 2: I thought he was actually gonna kill him.
Speaker 3: Like, and carlis.
Speaker 2: I understand that this is the smart move for carlis
Speaker 2: saving the Crown Prince, but like, Damon is fucked up
Speaker 2: in this moment, Like they're really doing some horrors of
Speaker 2: warship and Damon is going through it, and this is
Speaker 2: feels like the first time he's ever seen the actual
Speaker 2: consequences of his own actions, Like he usually sees himself
Speaker 2: as the hero, but he sees these burned women, burned kids,
Speaker 2: like and Corlis fucking picks him up out of that
Speaker 2: hysterical thing and saved and you know, those kids bad
Speaker 2: to be getting fucking Legitimi is now Ornia and there's
Speaker 2: gonna be a problem o.
Speaker 1: So they're like, let's let's get out of here. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Caraxies has flown up in the air to kind of
Speaker 1: chase Silvering off.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Helena is finishing up her chapestry back in King's landing
Speaker 1: and then she jumps sadly, as foreshadowed, from the very
Speaker 1: same window that you know, historically historically King tom And
Speaker 1: will later jump from. In Game of Thrones, we see
Speaker 1: that meanwhile, Gawayne has survived the battle. He's in very,
Speaker 1: very bad shape. Bull John Roxton has also survived. He
Speaker 1: finds Lord Dormand's burned skeleton. Hugh the Hammer goes into
Speaker 1: the city and also finds that his wife is dead. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Back at the Red Keep, Raniera gets the bad news
Speaker 1: that Helena jumped from the window. Allison, meanwhile, is walking
Speaker 1: in the woods somewhere like out in the river lands,
Speaker 1: coming back from hair and Hall, and she sees all
Speaker 1: these beautiful blue butterflies fly up into the into the air,
Speaker 1: the caterpillars that Helena had had earlier talked about, and
Speaker 1: this is clearly a sign.
Speaker 3: That that.
Speaker 1: Helena has has passed some kind of magical sign. Reniera
Speaker 1: looks at Helena's tapestry and is pretty horrific stuff. It
Speaker 1: shows Helena herself falling from the tower and Reaniera is
Speaker 1: sitting on the throne, surrounded by blood and fire, and
Speaker 1: you kind of get the quick she looks up in
Speaker 1: her her face is kind of unreadable, but I kind
Speaker 1: of interpreted that.
Speaker 3: At least I'm on the throne.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm on the throne, right, Yeah, let's they could
Speaker 1: quick break and talk about this episode in the series
Speaker 1: and we're back. Oh my god, what a what a
Speaker 1: finisher to the season. It's like, goes too quick. I
Speaker 1: can't believe we're done. I do feel like I believe
Speaker 1: we're now waiting for season four, which is going to
Speaker 1: be I mean, Gangbusters. This season has been Walt wallt
Speaker 1: Wall stuff. But what was your main takeaway from the season,
Speaker 1: and the finally.
Speaker 2: I think for me it was like secretly kind of
Speaker 2: the tragedy of Helena. I actually think they told so well,
Speaker 2: and I think that there was this really heartbreaking moment
Speaker 2: in the way they chose to tell the story where
Speaker 2: first you see the tapestry streaming out the window and
Speaker 2: Raniera sees it, and then you see Alice in the
Speaker 2: woods and the Alison and the butterflies begin to fly,
Speaker 2: and I think, for one moment, like a tiny bit
Speaker 2: of hope was like, well, maybe Helena climbed down the
Speaker 2: tapestry and she will get to live with Alison and
Speaker 2: raise chickens.
Speaker 3: You know, and then you get to see that she died.
Speaker 2: And I think so much much of this story is
Speaker 2: about like Helena is Allison is Rania is all these
Speaker 2: women when they were young who are trapped in these
Speaker 2: horrific situations, and it is just like so heartbreaking to
Speaker 2: see that happen again, and to someone who was probably
Speaker 2: one of the only like pure hearted people we've seen
Speaker 2: on the show, you know, like a legitimately good person.
Speaker 3: But Jason, let me ask you a question about Helena.
Speaker 2: Did she secretly deliver the baby before she jumped out
Speaker 2: the window.
Speaker 3: Does the baby exist? Did she do this too so
Speaker 3: that she would and her baby would die together?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: What do you what does this mean for that?
Speaker 1: I think that I think that she did this to
Speaker 1: spare the baby, which she thought would be a ignoble
Speaker 1: and potentially horrific death. Yeah, first as a hostage and prisoner,
Speaker 1: and then and then in.
Speaker 3: Some also and escape them.
Speaker 2: It's been trapped into right where she's also you know
Speaker 2: this this prisoner. Yeah, the moment with the butterflies was
Speaker 2: so beautiful.
Speaker 3: I thought that was just unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Jason, you were obviously very familiar at this point with
Speaker 2: the series, with the source material, with the finale. Was
Speaker 2: there anything on prepping for this episode that struck you differently,
Speaker 2: Like that kind of hit a little bit harder, or
Speaker 2: was an unexpected moment that kind of took your breath away?
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always been kind of ready for vernier
Speaker 1: us turn, but and to be fair to her, it
Speaker 1: is a kind of like rational response to it hyper
Speaker 1: violent world. But it was still very sad to see
Speaker 1: how it was, how far she's come from, you know,
Speaker 1: her ideals. She was kind of a little naive but
Speaker 1: will like genuinely wanted to do good, and now she's
Speaker 1: like murdering the Septin and the sept or ordering someone
Speaker 1: to do it. And it's also I think, you know,
Speaker 1: seeing the effect that her power has on others, the
Speaker 1: way Missaria completely debased herself to just try and be
Speaker 1: close to her, the way that Alan is like is
Speaker 1: like it has turned into this like ambitious guy who
Speaker 1: you know, Ivy loves Corliss and respects well, respects Corliss,
Speaker 1: and but also it is kind of like, I think
Speaker 1: is more drawn to Corliss's power and position than Corliss
Speaker 1: himself and probably is thinking, well, I didn't even know this.
Speaker 2: Guy exactly what she's honestly fad like he doesn't.
Speaker 1: So it's that has been and the relationship between Adam
Speaker 1: and Alan and Bayla too, that kind of triangle is
Speaker 1: something so intriguing. I've really enjoyed that because the way
Speaker 1: they all bring different things out of each other, and
Speaker 1: the way that Beyla, you know, Bayla finally kind of
Speaker 1: seeing Ranierra for who she is and saying, you know,
Speaker 1: all you care about is what people can do for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so exactly.
Speaker 1: It was so cutting and then and then Adam just
Speaker 1: kind of being like yeah, because he has a crush
Speaker 1: on Bayla, and then confronting Alan about, you know, his
Speaker 1: own ambitions, his own ambitions, and the way it certainly
Speaker 1: seems like he's kind of maybe eager for Corlis to
Speaker 1: exit the stage. All of that I think has been
Speaker 1: like wonderful. I have very juicy stuff for this show.
Speaker 2: I actually think something that I kind of didn't realize
Speaker 2: till this episode that they've been able to do is
Speaker 2: the democratization of the Dragons, and the dragons being such
Speaker 2: a huge pot of everyone's planning, it does allow a
Speaker 2: little more kind of grounding where people can speak back
Speaker 2: to Damon and Verania. You know, we get those fun
Speaker 2: moments in the small Council where there are these kind
Speaker 2: of balances between what they have to accept from people
Speaker 2: who aren't Targarian, and those have been really fun to see.
Speaker 2: And I think that Baylor getting to kind of have
Speaker 2: that moment. I mean, I can't lie. If there's one
Speaker 2: thread I'm most excited to see next season, it's whatever
Speaker 2: happens with Reiner and Baylor. I just feel like there's
Speaker 2: so much juicy shit there and I'm very interested in
Speaker 2: this potential valarian kind of targarian.
Speaker 3: Drift mark space.
Speaker 2: For like a younger generation who maybe a sicker fucking ranera.
Speaker 2: But Corlis can be that bridge between them because he's
Speaker 2: clearly now going to be back to being her hand.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's he saved Damon's life. There's no way
Speaker 2: he doesn't get rewarded.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing that I am absolutely like intrigued
Speaker 1: and fascinating by is the Alice revealed.
Speaker 3: The real Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: If you believe if she if you believe she's telling
Speaker 1: the truth, right, she certainly could be lying.
Speaker 2: I believe it because okay, I'll picture my, my my
Speaker 2: if she's lying. This is my read. I think if
Speaker 2: she's lying, it's not like an intentional lie. She is
Speaker 2: like a swamp thing esque, like she has made.
Speaker 3: Off the memories of Haron Hall.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think she's intentionally trying to mislead him,
Speaker 2: But I will say, is it like the perfect story
Speaker 2: to the amen. It's like the ultimate Mummy issue story
Speaker 2: for the ultimate Mummy issues.
Speaker 1: Boy, That's why, that's why you have to leave the
Speaker 1: door open in my opinion to it possibly being a lie.
Speaker 3: But if it's true.
Speaker 1: But if it's true, it's pretty fucking crazy that Alice's
Speaker 1: Lord Herring and Queen who is not super mentioned in
Speaker 1: the books, you don't, which is the perfect thing about
Speaker 1: her way to introduce I had that because they don't
Speaker 1: have to contradict anything, right, that just expanding, And I
Speaker 1: just love the way it opens the door to this
Speaker 1: kind of underdeveloped green magic that exists in this world
Speaker 1: the Woods, which is the Green Seeries. You know, we
Speaker 1: know stuff about how that works, and we've seen it,
Speaker 1: but there's always this feeling and you get it, certainly
Speaker 1: from Alice talking about how it is that again, if
Speaker 1: she's telling the truth, she's like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: years old or whatever, and still here you get this
Speaker 1: sense that there is this kind of vast, ancient, unknowable
Speaker 1: magic that exists in this world and that is just
Speaker 1: below the surface. I love, I least love that what
Speaker 1: that little speech of Alice's suggests about the story going forward.
Speaker 3: And the reveal, Yeah, I really love that.
Speaker 2: And also I think you're right because when I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about what House of the Dragon does so well and
Speaker 2: what this era of Game of Fernes does so well,
Speaker 2: think about Night of the Seven Kingdoms, right, such a
Speaker 2: different show, but it fills within the same world. House
Speaker 2: of the Dragons such a like chamber drama. Now it's
Speaker 2: become this huge battle it's your big blockbuster fights dragons,
Speaker 2: you know, flying in the sky, blazing each other. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: it be fantastic if we got kind of like a
Speaker 2: witchy mystery magic show that really focused on the children
Speaker 2: of the Forest, that really focused on the Green, that
Speaker 2: really focused on the rivulains, that was kind of a
Speaker 2: different tonal show, but still within that world. Like, I
Speaker 2: would love to see that explored more. And I think
Speaker 2: that's what this show does really well, is it seeds
Speaker 2: these kind of wider world building moments that make you
Speaker 2: just want to spend more time in the world.
Speaker 3: And that's a really special feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I absolutely love that. Who is your
Speaker 1: MVP of the season?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, if I'm talking about like true, true MVP,
Speaker 2: I actually think I don't think this is even like
Speaker 2: a hot take, but I think Oscar Tully is.
Speaker 3: A legit true MVP.
Speaker 2: Like he was consistent, he had bad bars, he had
Speaker 2: the you know, I promised that I'd build I promised
Speaker 2: I'd build a step out of my enemy's bones.
Speaker 3: I don't have enough bones. Yet He's always there.
Speaker 2: He got them to where they needed to be, even
Speaker 2: against Cole and ultimately.
Speaker 3: Played a big part in the death of Ormond, who
Speaker 3: I hate.
Speaker 2: So I think he's like an underrecognized big hitter. But
Speaker 2: I think that when it came to actually getting plans
Speaker 2: that got done and not getting derailed, I think he's
Speaker 2: up there. I would also want to give a shout
Speaker 2: out to the GMO, because I think he did keep
Speaker 2: it going nice.
Speaker 1: Uh that is mine. I'm gonna go to the g
Speaker 1: I think the GMO has been solid, solid, solid all season.
Speaker 1: He has been very helpful to multiple people. He was
Speaker 1: kind of like hedging his bets a little bit with
Speaker 1: the way he was helping, but understood at the right
Speaker 1: moment to be like, hey, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 1: Is giving Reniera honestly is doing Massaria's job like it
Speaker 1: should be Massoria delivering the news about the very erected
Speaker 1: egg on Targerian, but it was GMO. And so I
Speaker 1: just think that GMO it has been her most consistent
Speaker 1: and loyal advisor. And then I you know what, like,
Speaker 1: I'll go. My runner up I think is Damon. I
Speaker 1: say delivering Delivering Damon has made We talked about it.
Speaker 1: He made a couple of really great speeches, well maybe three,
Speaker 1: two to Raniera and one to the city Watch on
Speaker 1: the City Watch were on the verge of quitting, and
Speaker 1: they gave another one in the City Watch when the
Speaker 1: city Watched were quitting. That would have worked any other day.
Speaker 1: That wasn't gonna work when everybody guts were on the ground.
Speaker 1: And then she steals his lines to get Alan to
Speaker 1: kill the high and it worked. So I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy's the guy's legend.
Speaker 3: He's a leegend. And the hair has been stylin every episode.
Speaker 2: I saw a really funny tweet that was like half
Speaker 2: of the budget just went on giving him multiple different
Speaker 2: hairstyles and it was worth it.
Speaker 3: And I agree.
Speaker 2: I mean, Matt Smith, if that motherfucker is not getting
Speaker 2: nominated for an Emmy this year, that's a scandal.
Speaker 1: Who is your least valuable player?
Speaker 3: I got terrible dudes. Uh oh, it's Verdero. Bro Like
Speaker 3: she's so bad at this. Jason like, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 3: feel bad.
Speaker 2: I love her so much and I wish that she
Speaker 2: was better prepared for this, but I fear that she
Speaker 2: will forever be the twelve year old girl who mad
Speaker 2: that people don't want her to be queen. And I
Speaker 2: just think that every choice she's, every chance she has,
Speaker 2: she's making a bad option. I honestly think she would
Speaker 2: have been just better having Allison as her mistress of whispers,
Speaker 2: and at least they're honest with each other, you know,
Speaker 2: to a point, I just feel like she is not good.
Speaker 2: I did feel like she was making a solid comeback
Speaker 2: at the end there. I thought the speech was quite powerful.
Speaker 2: Again though I love the optics of the speech, but
Speaker 2: the reality is, is that a really a good smart thing?
Speaker 2: Where something that's been a secret for your family for
Speaker 2: like hundreds of years you just reveal to a bunch
Speaker 2: of people on their lunch break.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's good planning.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think Riniera needs a better team around her,
Speaker 2: and she has proven.
Speaker 3: That she is not the MVP by herself.
Speaker 2: I do think she is the least valuable player, but
Speaker 2: she's on the throne right now.
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty brutal. I am going to I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously we talked.
Speaker 3: A lot about we know your feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, but I'm not gonna he's gonna go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go back there. Gosh, who else can
Speaker 1: I I would say, let's add Lord Manderly, Master of
Speaker 1: Coin to the Oh my god, because useless, just because
Speaker 1: like really, it took you that long to realize that
Speaker 1: you're the fucking scapegoat.
Speaker 3: And like, come on, my guy.
Speaker 1: I just think that guy is a dim wed.
Speaker 2: He's a dim and he didn't make no money for us,
Speaker 2: like he did something illegal.
Speaker 3: I don't want you. The tax is your best idea?
Speaker 3: Shut up? Go What about.
Speaker 2: Fucking Jason landis that go have sex with a pirate
Speaker 2: or whatever?
Speaker 3: Guest some money?
Speaker 1: Go get go out there and get money, charm sometime,
Speaker 1: prostitutes or something.
Speaker 2: Somebody you do run a like little finger fucking protection scam,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, Just go fucking do it. They just
Speaker 2: sit there compleated. Also, Jason, how excited are you for
Speaker 2: the lady from the Towers to go and try and
Speaker 2: reclaim Haron Hall from Crazy Alice and Amon because that
Speaker 2: ship would be hilarious.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's up with people. It could be it could
Speaker 1: be fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Jason Amen's going with egg on right, Like, that's definitely yeah.
Speaker 2: So Alice is gonna be feeling Do you think Alice
Speaker 2: and Amond have already had sex?
Speaker 3: And is she already pregnant with the son? Question mark.
Speaker 1: I think that they have had sex, but not to completion.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've seen and what we've seen, Yeah.
Speaker 1: From what we've seen, and I think that I think
Speaker 1: he's going to spurn her, and I think that she
Speaker 1: will have her revenge somehow good.
Speaker 3: I would love to see it.
Speaker 1: And who knows what happens to her? You know, she
Speaker 1: just kind of fades out of history. So I want
Speaker 1: to know what happens serv and shit, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for season four.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know I'm very upset.
Speaker 2: I gotta ask for my final question because obviously I
Speaker 2: did not get love lesbo action this weekend, sadly, but
Speaker 2: we did get to see our beautiful big eyes one
Speaker 2: more time. What do we think is happening with Alison?
Speaker 2: She's lost to Lene and now Amen's lost to Alice.
Speaker 2: Do we ever see her again? Tumbleton is lost? What
Speaker 2: happens does she try and make does she become the
Speaker 2: evil stepmother she was in the books? Now?
Speaker 3: Is that as season four arc what happens.
Speaker 1: I am convinced that, well, you know, in practice, like
Speaker 1: all of the books are some form of propaganda foreign
Speaker 1: against various figures, you know, Green fla faction, black faction.
Speaker 2: And we saw how much that played into reimagining Allison
Speaker 2: and Ranera in this which was to me the strongest
Speaker 2: part of the show.
Speaker 1: And so I honestly Allison could be my MVP this season.
Speaker 1: I think she was fantastic. She delivered the city to Rnia,
Speaker 1: just like she she said you would. She moved heaven
Speaker 1: and earth to try and save Haley in his life.
Speaker 1: Ultimately was not able to do it, got into heron
Speaker 1: hall and did make poison her son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which she na miss Ranera, she would do.
Speaker 1: It didn't come off, but she did succeed in delivering
Speaker 1: the poison and escaped alive and and now isn't know
Speaker 1: and now is maybe can escape to like some sort
Speaker 1: of freedom like.
Speaker 2: I hope so so I imagine if it's never. I
Speaker 2: was impressed by her me too. And I just think
Speaker 2: Olivia Cook is such a dream in this role. I
Speaker 2: She's so good at being scared, Like when Aimond kissed her,
Speaker 2: that was just an instant meme because you're immediately just like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, she's horrified.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I I would love to see Ranera reunited, but I
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I mean, we could just never see her again.
Speaker 2: I would hate that, but I would kind of love
Speaker 2: it for the character, you know, if she did get
Speaker 2: some kind of freedom. Helena kind of wanted for her
Speaker 2: in my dreams. But yeah, what an unbelievable finale. I'm
Speaker 2: very sad that it's over. I want, I want, I want?
Speaker 2: When does when's the next Game of Thrones show?
Speaker 3: Jason? When can we watch Night of the Seven Pek again?
Speaker 1: X year? On next week's episodes of X ray Vision,
Speaker 1: we're diving into the finale of X Me NAT in
Speaker 1: season two. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.
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