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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday ED issue of Texans All Access

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Speaker 2: and a happy Wednesday to all of you. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: John Harris Football, I had a sideline reporter for your

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Glad to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Boy.

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Speaker 1: We've got some good stuff for you today.

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Speaker 2: In the lab, Judordy and I start talking about training

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Speaker 2: camp and everything going on. We also talk about the

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Speaker 2: Ring of Honor three well two members now a third

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Speaker 2: will be added October. First Bob McNair was the first

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Speaker 2: to go in, then Andre Johnson and then JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1: Will go in.

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Speaker 2: Should there be a criteria, what should the Ring of

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Speaker 2: Honor really entail? We Drew and I talked about that

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Speaker 2: on in the lap, so you definitely want to check

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Speaker 2: that out.

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Speaker 1: But we had a chance to catch.

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Speaker 2: Up today with a number of former players Texans Legends,

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Speaker 2: the Legends community as it's called. We talked to Garrett Graham,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Wells, Steve McKinney. It was funny catch up with

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Speaker 2: Steve McKinney. I joked with Steve at some point you'll

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Speaker 2: hear an interview probably next week sometime.

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Speaker 1: Really good stuff.

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Speaker 2: But when we started a radio station in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and seven, Steve came over and was part of that

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Speaker 2: radio station and you know, giving us updates, and you

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Speaker 2: know that was a radio station.

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Speaker 1: You kind of it.

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Speaker 2: You're your hair down a little bit. If you follow

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Speaker 2: me and have followed me for a long time, you

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Speaker 2: know that station. Uh did that and it was great

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Speaker 2: to catch up with them. And I remember it was

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Speaker 2: about that time and he told me about McDonald's. He's

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Speaker 2: buying a McDonald's and that's what he was gonna do.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh man, that's really cool. Today when

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Speaker 2: we were doing an interview, I said, how many you got?

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Speaker 2: The number shocked me. So we'll have that interview for you.

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Speaker 2: That's what's called a tease, that interview for you later

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Speaker 2: in the week. But we're gonna kick off tonight's show

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Speaker 2: with one of our faves, Travis Johnson, former first round

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Speaker 2: pick with the Texans, and I'd love having trap Jay on.

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Speaker 1: There's so many different things that.

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Speaker 2: We can hit, so so many things that we could

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Speaker 2: talk about. We talk about current team, we can talk

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Speaker 2: about former team, we talk about teammates. Great great stuff

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Speaker 2: from Trap Jay here with Mark and myself.

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Speaker 1: Texas All Access.

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Speaker 4: Travis how's your summer. How's it going?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Man, I can't complain, man, you know, I can't complain.

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Speaker 5: My uh my wife bought My wife bought us a

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Speaker 5: ranch in Wymer, Texas. She your man, She's like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we just wanted us.

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Speaker 6: To have something.

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Speaker 5: So I was like, all right, animals, Yeah, well getting cattle,

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Speaker 5: you know, oh, get the homestead whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as exemption.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like, she she went and did that, and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, that's cool. But you know, summer's

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Speaker 5: been cool, man. You know, kids have been full of sports,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I've just been you know, relaxing man,

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Speaker 5: trying to just stay me while while I'm waiting on

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Speaker 5: my doses an adderall you know. Outside of that, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's just it's okay, man. It's been a great start

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Speaker 5: to get right now. I'm very hard to get right now. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: It's it's tough.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: It's a back order and everything.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was CVS and I was going and

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Speaker 5: I was gonna strangle somebody, but they tell me that everybody.

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Speaker 2: Travis, you had the opportunity to play with me. Kryan,

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Speaker 2: you know Cap, you know him pretty well. You see

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Speaker 2: him as a player as a coach, and maybe you

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Speaker 2: could see him as a coach because he was such

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Speaker 2: a leader back then. But you over all thoughts about

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Speaker 2: Demico taking over as a head coach for this organization.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's beautiful, Lord, this is my sister.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's beautiful because when you think

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Speaker 5: about I go back to his first training camp, and

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Speaker 5: I remember we had Sam Coward, We signed Sam Coward,

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Speaker 5: gave him million dollars of fun. He was supposed to

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Speaker 5: be the starter, and then we drafted his second round

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Speaker 5: rookie who was All SEC SEC defensive Player of the year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he didn't test well, he didn't run well, you

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Speaker 5: Like he looked like even during the summer training and

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Speaker 5: you're like, you know the guy, he's not in the

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Speaker 5: You couldn't teach what he had. You couldn't see on

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Speaker 5: the measurables at the combine put together, and you watched

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Speaker 5: him grow, like you watched him take over the defense

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Speaker 5: as a rookie. I think he led the league and

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Speaker 6: Then you go fast forward like a couple of years.

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Speaker 5: I think it might have been year two or three

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Speaker 5: where the Saints came here, and this one I knew

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Speaker 5: like Dimico's mind was on like some beautiful mind type

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Speaker 5: stuff where he was just dissecting numbers in the in

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Speaker 5: the the in the thought process of the air. When

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Speaker 5: you know, I watched, we watched Drew Brees changed changed

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Speaker 5: the call. Then we watched Demico put us in a

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Speaker 5: different defense. Then Drew changed another one, Demko puts us

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Speaker 5: just was like, man, and my thing is, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 5: I'm supposed to be here. I'm supposed to go get it,

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Speaker 5: go get this or play this block. He's thinking, he's

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Speaker 5: thinking for us all and at that point I knew

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Speaker 5: like he was special. At that point, I was like,

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Speaker 5: you know what, this dude is on a whole nother

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Speaker 5: level that we aren't on, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: And outside of injuries, I could have potentially seen him

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Speaker 5: be in a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's strong stuff right there, all right, tell me

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Speaker 4: about this Travis getting ready for camp. What is the

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Speaker 4: mindset right now as a player? What are these guys

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Speaker 4: going through right now as they're about to go through

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Speaker 4: that big grind? How do they get ready and what

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Speaker 4: are they thinking about?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean it depends. You know.

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Speaker 5: At this point, you just want to make sure you're

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Speaker 5: in good shape because you can't come in out of shape.

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Speaker 5: You want to make sure you're the weight the coach

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Speaker 5: told you to come back in, because you don't want

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Speaker 6: I don't know what the number is now.

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Speaker 5: I know back then it was like eight hundred and

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Speaker 5: twenty six dollars a day per pound, you know. But uh,

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Speaker 5: right now, you're getting a lot of stuff. Is almost

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Speaker 5: like getting ready for a road trip. You're trying to

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Speaker 5: get your family right. If you have a family, you know,

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Speaker 5: you try to make sure you know, uh, everything's taken

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Speaker 6: Normally, whys take care of all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: But it's a few times where you got to make

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Speaker 5: sure stuff is in place because I'm gonna be gone

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Speaker 5: for the greater part of the next nine months, you

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Speaker 5: for the long haul. But then you're preparing of I'm

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Speaker 5: in my playbook, I'm learning the plays, I'm learning the.

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Speaker 6: Checks from the plays.

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Speaker 5: It's so much, but it's like it's different because like

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Speaker 5: with Dom was here, camp was everybody's in the hotel.

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Speaker 6: I don't care who you are.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's in the hotel for those three four weeks of camp.

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Speaker 5: When Cool got here was like, no, it's optional, Like

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Speaker 5: you can lock in, you know. So now it's just

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Speaker 5: about locking in and then putting your goals together and

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Speaker 5: putting a playing together.

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Speaker 6: How you gonna accomplish those goals?

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Speaker 2: Travis, I thought about this as I was asking a

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Speaker 2: question about the Miko and playing the defensive line. You

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Speaker 2: played with a guy that coached defensive line, JACKSA is

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Speaker 2: there two part question? One about Jacques? Just give us

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on Jacques. But did it matter to you

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Speaker 2: whether you played for a guy that played in the

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Speaker 2: football or not, Because I mean, coaches come from all

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Speaker 2: great college coaches of all time. But then there are

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Speaker 5: I don't think it really matters for some positions. I

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: You're telling me, I got a double team where I

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Speaker 5: got Larry Allen and flows out the hotel right here,

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Speaker 5: and you're not telling me how am I gonna How

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Speaker 6: How am I gonna attack this double team? You know?

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't like Mike London was a brilliant coach

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Speaker 5: Bob Carmelowis, he was. He was phenomenal. He you know,

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Speaker 5: after that that played here. He was drafted by Cincinnati,

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Speaker 5: Bill Colark. He comes in, he's played, he knows. His

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Speaker 5: coaching sounds a little bit different. I think when you

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Speaker 5: get when you get around got guys. You know, players

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Speaker 5: know if you know you know, they can they sense

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Speaker 5: the bees they sense. But at the same time, if

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Speaker 5: about and you've studied, you've done your homework, you've done

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Speaker 5: But then when you've played and you know your stuff,

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Speaker 5: I think it's a different level. When you talk about Jock, Jock,

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Speaker 5: Jock is brilliant. You know, I laugh because you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying. They're gonna trade for me to start

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Speaker 5: in front of job, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 5: you gotta play, then I get hurt. And Jock was

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Speaker 5: there and it was never any beef between us. It

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Speaker 5: was just like I'm gonna teach you this defense, or

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna help you, or I'm gonna and then when

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Speaker 5: it became another part of something else we did, He's like, hey, Trap,

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Speaker 5: I need you just showed me how to do this,

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Speaker 5: So he's always willing to learn. When you brought in

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Speaker 5: Demico and Demiko kept Jock, one of the things I

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Speaker 5: think he kept Jock because he saw Jock trying to

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Speaker 5: able to absorb it like he's a player, and then

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Speaker 5: be able to then dictate it back to the guys

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Speaker 5: of how coach Martin Ryans wants it done.

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Speaker 4: Alright, Travis Johnson with us your rookie year, Texas are

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Speaker 5: I think the first thing Koop came in and said,

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Speaker 6: And it was like okay, like how many were gonna win?

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Speaker 6: He's like, no, no, no, when.

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Speaker 5: We get the eight hundred, we're no longer losers. So

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Speaker 5: we're gonna be winners. So now we're gonna but we

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Speaker 5: think Demico's coming in here to say, yeah, we're not

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Speaker 5: and said, listen all you we all we got grandiose dreams.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean? He said, But what we're

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Speaker 5: We're gonna figure out how to scratch and claw, win

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Speaker 5: But right now, we gotta take the first step. You

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Speaker 6: And that's what I think he's telling them.

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Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, we got dreams, Yeah we got goals

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Speaker 5: But it starts with game one. And after we go

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Speaker 5: a chance to dance, you know what I'm saying. We'll

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Speaker 5: it starts with game one. We can't overlook anything. We

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Speaker 2: Amongst the teams that were winners that you played with Travis.

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Speaker 2: What was the common thread? Was there a trait? Was

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Speaker 2: Ohio State have a good camaraderie.

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Speaker 1: They were successful, They had a lot of great players.

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Speaker 6: I will wholeheartedly agree with CJ.

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Speaker 5: When we think about winning games back in the day,

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Speaker 5: everybody wants to be everybody wanted to be the Colts.

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Speaker 5: Everybody wanted to be the Pagers. Everybody wanted to be

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Speaker 5: hear the stories of their camaraderie. I got to hear

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Speaker 5: But it was a way where they won games. But

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Speaker 5: when I got there, I'm like, if you could ask Jock,

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Speaker 5: because if you don't like each other, there's nothing we'll

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Speaker 5: fight for, you know what I mean. Like you'll fight

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Speaker 5: first and foremost, out of every team I've ever seen

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Speaker 5: care how tight you are, okay, how much you love

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Speaker 5: won't win any games on any level, college, high school,

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Speaker 4: I got two more for you, Travis one Houston. You're

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Speaker 4: from California, you played at Florida State, You're drafted here.

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Speaker 4: Why did you settle here? What's appealing to you about

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I mean, for me, it was just the love, the camaraderie,

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Speaker 5: Then for me, it was how they McNair's in Kansas

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Because for me it was, yeah, everything

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Speaker 5: might not have worked out. You could call me a bus.

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Speaker 5: You called me this, you called me I started most time,

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Speaker 5: I was a year. I was a great teammate. I'm

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Speaker 5: a great dude, and they've always looked out for me.

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Speaker 5: The city loves me, the team loves me, and it's

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Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't leave this place if I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very good, All right, now this You know, I

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Speaker 6: Oh that millions?

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Speaker 5: It would have been millions, and not even just that

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Speaker 5: I want to say, that game had like forty first

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean? But I think the nil stuff,

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Speaker 6: He took a a coup when he came to the league,

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Speaker 5: But as far as in il stuff, I think, I

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Speaker 2: You got to manage both of them. You can't have

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's just wild wild way.

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Speaker 6: It's wild West.

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Speaker 5: But and the thing is, I think because this I

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Speaker 6: They want it all right now.

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Speaker 5: They wanted they want to put thirty seconds and they

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Speaker 5: And that's not how in my opinion, that's not what

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna find guys like you every year.

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Speaker 5: And it took you had to drop you had to

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Speaker 5: you're gonna keep it staying and say no, I'm in.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's it's that type of that type of mentality. And

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Speaker 5: I think to play in the NFL. Yes, the NFL

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Speaker 5: It is it's the thing that still makes people great.

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Speaker 5: And the thing about this game is you have to

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Speaker 4: Does Bobby Bowden's voice still ring in your head sometimes?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, it does it all the time. Him and

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean, You've only buy me a

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Speaker 2: By the way, your seminals are gonna be salty this year.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're gonna They're gonna be solid. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: He's saw there there.

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Speaker 2: You're your skilled position players are as good as they

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Speaker 1: Ja, they're gonna put up points.

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Speaker 2: Man, when Miami comes to Tallahassee this year, Mark, you

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Speaker 5: Miami offered a seventh grade the other day. That tells

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Speaker 4: Coach Right, that guy's gonna change his mind. A bunch

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Speaker 6: Thank y'all, man, take take care of Go Texans.

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Speaker 2: Oh look, trap Jay stealing our thing. No he's not really,

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Speaker 2: really have ever been around. He's He's incredible. So tell

437
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Speaker 2: you this quick story about about Travis. And also a

438
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Speaker 2: guy that he mentioned in an interview. He talked about

439
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Speaker 2: his cousin being with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So I know

440
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Speaker 2: who that is now, but at din't the time. So

441
00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,120
Speaker 2: we went to the combine in twenty that's just last one,

442
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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty twenty two, and the Steelers had their

443
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Speaker 2: table next to us, and I see this hulking, just

444
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Speaker 2: large man Max.

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Speaker 1: I know immediately who it is. It's Max Stark's and

446
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Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I've been.

447
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Speaker 2: Waiting twenty years to talk to this guy. And so

448
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Speaker 2: my first year of coaching back in as a head

449
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Speaker 2: coach in nineteeninety eight, we went and played Max Stars

450
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Speaker 2: high school.

451
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Speaker 1: And it was back then.

452
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Speaker 2: When you didn't really have you didn't the internet was

453
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Speaker 2: just kind of its infancy so you didn't really know

454
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Speaker 2: a lot about every single team, and this is a

455
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Speaker 2: team we didn't play a lot, and they were, you know,

456
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Speaker 2: two hours away, two plus hours away in Orlando. So

457
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Speaker 2: I'd watch him on tape and I thought, Okay, well,

458
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Speaker 2: the tackles are big.

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Speaker 1: That other guy's good. You know, he's big. The other

460
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Speaker 1: guy's you know, if he's big, he's got to be

461
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Speaker 1: a little bit bigger.

462
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Speaker 2: So to forty two, to seventy five whatever. So the

463
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Speaker 2: guy comes out that I thought was two forty five.

464
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Speaker 2: He comes out, he'st three hundred. I'm like, oh my god,

465
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Speaker 2: how big is Holy cow? And it's Max Starks. He's

466
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Speaker 2: like three hundred sixty five pounds. He's six eight, three

467
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Speaker 2: sixty five nimble feet. I'm like, oh my god. So

468
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Speaker 2: I tell Max about this and we'll talk about that game,

469
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Speaker 2: and he remembered it. Now you didn't remember me, obviously,

470
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Speaker 2: but he remember that game. And so we were chatting

471
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Speaker 2: and he goes, he goes, yeah, man, my cousin and

472
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Speaker 2: I was supposed to go to the same school.

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Speaker 1: You should know him. And I was like, who's that?

474
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Speaker 1: He goes, Travis Johnson's like, you, Travis are cousins.

475
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Speaker 2: Oh Man, we spent the next twenty five minutes sharing

476
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Speaker 2: trap Jay stories. It was absolutely fantastic and trap Jay

477
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 2: is fantastic and appreciate his time. All right, we're going

478
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Speaker 2: in the lap. What should the Ring of Honor criteria? B?

479
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Speaker 2: Should there be one? For the Texans Ring of Honor?

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Speaker 2: JJ will go in October first, that'll be number three

481
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Speaker 2: in there. Who should be fourth? Should there be a criteria?

482
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Speaker 2: What should we look at? We'll do that next right

483
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Speaker 2: here in texanst All Access. The Ring of hon Our

484
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Speaker 2: discussion is always a fun one and yet kind of

485
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Speaker 2: frustrating all at the same time. And that's what Drew

486
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Speaker 2: Doredy and I John Harris Football and I saw the

487
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Speaker 2: reporter and your host this evening discussed on in the lab.

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Speaker 1: Who should be next after JJ?

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Speaker 2: This gets kind of interesting and yet kind of frustrating

490
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Speaker 2: because well, I don't know, a lot of people have a.

491
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Speaker 1: Lot of different opinions about it.

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Speaker 2: And it's also frustrating too, because if you want to

493
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Speaker 2: keep the Ring of Honor at a high level, then

494
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Speaker 2: there's some guys that you really really like that you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Say no to.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to say argue against, but kind

497
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Speaker 2: of argue against anyway. Take a list to the conversation

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Speaker 2: between Drew and myself here on the Texans Ring of

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Speaker 2: Honor I do, Dear.

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Speaker 7: Drew, I answer questions in a mail bag. Yes, and

501
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Speaker 7: many of the questions that I got this latest round

502
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Speaker 7: have to do with the Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 3: JJ Watt He's going in.

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Speaker 7: Yep, he'll join Andre Johnson, the first guy who went

505
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Speaker 7: in and Bob McNair. Now listen, Andre Johnson belongs to

506
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Speaker 7: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He'll get there someday.

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Speaker 7: You and I have discussed this at length, but it's

508
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Speaker 7: good to remind people Andre Johnson belongs to the Pro

509
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Speaker 7: Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Bob McNair brought football pro football back to Houston

512
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Speaker 7: after about four or five year hiatus, and he was

513
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Speaker 7: the guy who kind of made things happen, and we

514
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Speaker 7: would you and I would not be sitting here doing

515
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Speaker 7: this job for Bob McNair. Third guy who goes in,

516
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Speaker 7: JJ Watt JJ three time Defensive Player of the Year,

517
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Speaker 7: multi time All Pro, one hundred sacks plus going into.

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Speaker 3: The Pro Football Hall of Fame someday.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 7: So the question I got was when's Arian Foster getting in?

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Speaker 7: Who else is going to get in to this ring

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Speaker 7: of honor? Now, if you just answer without hearing what

523
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Speaker 7: the kind of the folks who decide this say, you

524
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Speaker 7: might be like, oh, yeah, he gets in, he gets in.

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Speaker 3: This guy's in.

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Speaker 7: But back in mid June, Cal and Hannah McNair were

527
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Speaker 7: on In the Loop with Landry Locker John Lopez and

528
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Speaker 7: they spoke at Linked about this and they were asked

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Speaker 7: about it, and Hannah said, from here on, it's got

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Speaker 7: to be you know, super Bowls, people who are involved

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Speaker 7: in getting to a super Bowl or winning a super Bowl,

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Speaker 7: because that means you've got some good players that have come. Sure,

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Speaker 7: and or she didn't say this, but I'm also thinking,

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Speaker 7: if you've got a guy who's gonna be in the

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Speaker 7: Hall of Fame, he'll probably get into the Ring of

536
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Speaker 7: Honor too. Correct And then Cal said a lot of

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Speaker 7: times we go to these stadiums on the road and

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Speaker 7: there'll be a ring of honor or a circle of

539
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Speaker 7: whatever conduction and you look up and you don't know

540
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Speaker 7: half of the names. He said, so it's got to

541
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Speaker 7: be somebody who really really resonates. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 7: Arion was phenomenal for the Texans for really really good years,

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Speaker 7: but I think he falls short. I don't see him

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Speaker 7: getting in anytime soon. I think the only john, the

545
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Speaker 7: only guy I could see maybe getting into the Ring

546
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Speaker 7: of Honor that has played for the Texans and is

547
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Speaker 7: not playing for them right now is DeAndre Hopkins. And

548
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Speaker 7: we all know what happened. He just signed with the Titans.

549
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Speaker 7: In his seven years here, so think about that. He

550
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Speaker 7: played seven seasons with the Texans thirteen through nineteen. Average

551
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Speaker 7: better than twelve hundred yards was outstanding. His worst season

552
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Speaker 7: was his rookie season when he had eight hundred yards

553
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Speaker 7: as a rookie in the wreckage of a two and

554
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Speaker 7: fourteen campaign at twenty thirteen, but he.

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Speaker 3: Was still pretty good.

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Speaker 7: Think he's probably if he's gonna make the Hall of Fame,

557
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Speaker 7: he's probably got to string together a few more really

558
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Speaker 7: good years. And I think if he does that, think

559
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Speaker 7: about that. I think if he has more good years

560
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Speaker 7: with the Titans or wherever, then I think the Texans

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Speaker 7: Ring of Honor becomes a possibility. But based off of

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Speaker 7: what I heard the McNair say, I think the next

563
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Speaker 7: Ring of Honor guys are either on the team now

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Speaker 7: or will be in the future.

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Speaker 3: What do you think.

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you when whenever people bring

567
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Speaker 2: up Ring of Honor and that kind of thing. You know,

568
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Speaker 2: it's fun to talk about in certain respects, it's also

569
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Speaker 2: frustrating to talk about because you don't want to minimize, obviously,

570
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Speaker 2: in what players have done.

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Speaker 1: You talk about Aaron Foster.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, why is any in the Ring of Honor?

573
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Speaker 2: And then you got to turn around and go, well,

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Speaker 2: you know he did.

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Speaker 3: It for a short period of time, eleven, twelve and fourteen, right.

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Speaker 1: It was really four years?

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Speaker 6: Is that enough?

578
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Speaker 1: I think?

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Speaker 2: To me, the most successful ring Rings of Honor, whatever

580
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Speaker 2: you want to call it, jerseys and the rafters whatever

581
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Speaker 2: I feel like, was University of North Carolina basketball. University

582
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Speaker 2: of North Carolina, they had a formula. Now I don't

583
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Speaker 2: know that I know the formula extremely well, but if

584
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Speaker 2: I remember it, it was something the extent of if

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Speaker 2: you were a first team All American, if you were

586
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Speaker 2: a unanimous if you were a unanimous or consensus All American,

587
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Speaker 2: or you were the Wooden Player of the Year. There

588
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: were different criterion that they used for their players to

589
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Speaker 2: put their jerseys in the Rafters. If you went into

590
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Speaker 2: the College Basketball of Fame, you went up there. So

591
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Speaker 2: that's the way your jersey were going. Rafters Now they

592
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Speaker 2: never retired. I don't know if they've retired jerseys. I

593
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Speaker 2: think they have retired a few.

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Speaker 7: The Texans they've said, you know, Kanna said they're not

595
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Speaker 7: going to retire number right, so eighty not gonna get retired,

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Speaker 7: ninety nine not gonna get retired. However, I don't think

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Speaker 7: you're gonna see anybody wearing them.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I would like to see.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I would like to say see if you

600
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Speaker 2: go into the Ring of Honor, Andre and JJ would

601
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Speaker 2: be the you know those you know, two of the three.

602
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Speaker 2: Obviously Bob didn't wear a jersey. I wish you did.

603
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Speaker 2: It'd be interesting to know what number Bob would have chosen.

604
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: But anyways, I feel like what I'd love to do

605
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Speaker 2: is for Andre Johnson and and JJ if there's a

606
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Speaker 2: player that comes in that those two feel like deserve

607
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Speaker 2: the honor of wearing it, like you know, eighty eight

608
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Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cops. I hate to use an example,

609
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Speaker 2: but I think it's a good example. Drew Pearson warret

610
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Speaker 2: the Michael Irvin Warrett. That's Bryant Warrett. Now see Lamb,

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Speaker 2: where's it? It's becoming Antonio. Right, there's been kind of

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00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: a there's there. There's a good badge of honor that

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Speaker 2: goes with wearing that jersey, and so maybe that's what

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Speaker 2: they do with when it comes to two jerseys. But

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Speaker 2: I think in the Ring of Honor, maybe the best

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Speaker 2: thing to do would be to come up with a

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Speaker 2: particular formula. And I don't know how exactly you come

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Speaker 2: up with that, because you have to account for, you know,

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Speaker 2: shorter periods of dominance like for example, Arian was dom

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Speaker 2: it for four years. You know, eighty percent of those

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Speaker 2: years he gets a Pro Bowl. You know, he goes

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Speaker 2: to you know, say he went to four Pro Bowls

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Speaker 2: in five seasons. You know, eighty percent of his years

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Speaker 2: they go to Pro Bowl or your name to and

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Speaker 2: All Pro.

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Speaker 1: Team three times. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You come up with some sort of formula in which

628
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Speaker 2: you get recognized in the Ring of Honor, and you

629
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Speaker 2: could set that formula for how whatever you want it

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Speaker 2: to be. Now to the McNair's point about you don't

631
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Speaker 2: want in some sense your Ring of Honor to be

632
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Speaker 2: diluted you don't want everybody and their brother going up there,

633
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Speaker 2: so you can make that a pretty strict for him.

634
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Speaker 2: But then you kind of take the decision making and

635
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: the the controversy, well why did this guy get into

636
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 2: this guy did? And trust me when I say there

637
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: are ardent fans of the University of North Carolina basketball,

638
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: There are arden fans of the Universe North Carolina basketball.

639
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: But they all understood, well, that guy's why is that gona?

640
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't have his jersey draft as well, he wasn't

641
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: a first team All American.

642
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: We didn't lead the team scoring, he didn't.

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Speaker 2: They whatever the formula, everybody knows what it is, and

644
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: the fans all know, so they know that they don't

645
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: have to ask that question, why such and such not

646
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: up there? Well, you know, you know what the formula is,

647
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: so at that point maybe and look for us content

648
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: driven people, it's awesome, Hey, talk about Jonathan Joseph, why

649
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: he deserves or dozens are? It's so hard for us

650
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Speaker 2: because we know these guys and we know very well

651
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to make a case against any

652
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Speaker 2: of these guys from going into the to the Ring

653
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Speaker 2: of Honor, but to keep that Ring of honor. At

654
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Speaker 2: that high level, I think almost the discussion point becomes

655
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: actually pretty pretty easy. Like JJ three time defensive Player

656
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: the year is gonna be the first bout Hall of Famer.

657
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: Andre is going to go into the Hall of Fame.

658
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 2: You know, the two players that are in that Ring

659
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 2: of Honor. And now, of course Bob is number one,

660
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: first and foremost, because none of this happens without uh.

661
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: He and his wife and nig then their family have

662
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: a formula. But we don't know.

663
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: This guy's going into the Hall of Fame.

664
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

665
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: Maybe you have some sort of way of doing that.

666
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

667
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: DeAndre is going to be very interesting case for a

668
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: number of things. Ring of Honor here, Hall of Fame. Yeah,

669
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: I think he should go into Canton. If he does

670
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: go to Canton, he's done the majority of that work

671
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: here in Houston. I think he you know, and he

672
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: lives in Houston. Go open the Ring of Honor and

673
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: have no issue with that well whatsoever. But I think

674
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: that's the standard that you say, if you want to

675
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: make it, you want to make it the easiest standard ever.

676
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Go with the standard. When this player walked into every

677
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: other building in the League. Did those fans know who

678
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: that was and who he was? Could every single fan

679
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: that walked in to lambeau Field know who Andre Johnson was?

680
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: Yeah?

681
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Did every fan that walked into I don't know, met

682
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: Life know who JJ Watt was?

683
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? And that's that's not the total baseline, but.

684
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, because what see by that baseline you could I

685
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 7: think Arion Foster, I think so. I want to underscore

686
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 7: what you just said a moment ago, like, we're not

687
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 7: arguing against Aaron fight, but we're saying based on what

688
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 7: we've heard the mcnaiers say publicly, it sounds like that's

689
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 7: what the that's what the criteria is.

690
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: You know.

691
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: It sounds like he falls short of that criteria.

692
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I think so too.

693
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 7: One thing about Arion I just pulled this back up.

694
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 7: He played in four postseason games with the Texans. You

695
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 7: forget how lights out that guy was.

696
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you about the I tell you about

697
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: the the vortex I went down.

698
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 7: Well, let me just spout the numbers for you. So

699
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty three yards, one hundred and thirty

700
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 7: two yards, one hundred and forty yards, ninety yards, So

701
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 7: one game he didn't crack one hundred, so we averaged

702
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty nine yards in the playoffs. Ran

703
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 7: for a touchdown in every single playoff game. He played

704
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 7: two in the first one, so five total touchdowns on

705
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 7: the ground. He also caught a touchdown pass and so

706
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 7: six touchdowns in four games, twenty nine yards on the ground.

707
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 7: He was awesome, man, he was really, really, really good

708
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 7: in the postseason.

709
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 6: Wow.

710
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Would have loved to see, you.

711
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 7: Know, like, if he makes if he gets a tech,

712
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 7: if the Texans get to a Super Bowl in one

713
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 7: of those years, I bet you he winds up in

714
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 7: that Ring of Honor because it would have meant he

715
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 7: had had some monstrous game.

716
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: He probably had.

717
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: He would have had a Larry Fitzgerald two thousand and

718
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: eight type run.

719
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 7: And I bet Andre Johnson's in the Hall of Fame easily,

720
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 7: oh without question, because of because then the absolutely the

721
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 7: larger public sees what a specimen and what a force

722
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 7: Andre Johnson was.

723
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: If you, as a player can have that run in

724
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: the playoffs, I think if Fitzgerald in two thousand and eight,

725
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: but let's say the twenty eleven team Arians had those

726
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: two games, one against the Bengals, one against the Ravens,

727
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: then he has one like that against the Patriots, and

728
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're on it to the Super

729
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: Bowl at that point and you're playing in uh, you're

730
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: playing at Lucas Oil against the New York Giants, and

731
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 2: he has another game of that magnitude, whether they win

732
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl or not. Like Larry Fitzgerald, I think

733
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: it's a great Larry Fitzgerald's a test case in some

734
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: sense because, yeah, he went to pitt he got second

735
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: the Heisman in two thousand and three, so he moves

736
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: on to Arizona. Arizona really hadn't done a whole lot,

737
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: but to have this run in two thousand and eight,

738
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: and because of that run, it because he was tremendous

739
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: in that run every single game, Larry Fitzgerald will be a.

740
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: First bout Hall of Famer.

741
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you.

742
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Make a case said Larry Fitzgerald is better than Andre

743
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: Johnson or Andre Johnson was better than Larry Fitzgerald.

744
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could go either way on that.

745
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: But Larry Fitzgerald's was slammed up because in two thousand

746
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: and eight, when they got the time, when they made

747
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: the run all the way through the playoffs, that's what

748
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: people saw everybody in the country saw that run, and

749
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald became.

750
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: A household name at that point.

751
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: And I think it's a shame that the Texans couldn't

752
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: make a run all the way through to the super

753
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: Bowl in one of those years, because Arian Foster or

754
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Andre Johnson would obviously fall into that category as well.

755
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: So speaking of Arian, this is probably probably a couple

756
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: of months ago, Drew. I've now gotten to a point

757
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: where I don't really watch live TV.

758
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm kind of removed from it.

759
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: So the only thing I really watch on live TV

760
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: is like on Monday night, if there's just a show

761
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: I can put on just have a noise in the

762
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: background as I'm doing work, I'll do that. But for

763
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: the most part, and I watch it. So I go

764
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: to YouTube a lot of times. And so I was

765
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: on YouTube, and I don't know what. YouTube follows an algorithm,

766
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: so you click on one thing and the next thing,

767
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, like if you kick on if you click

768
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: on how am I going to make this girl chicken breast?

769
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: All of a sudden you got twenty five videos of

770
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: how you you know, what you do with a chicken breast?

771
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: So I must have clicked on something, and all of

772
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: a sudden, these different videos popped up, and then one

773
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: popped up for Arion Foster and it's on an account

774
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: NFL Throwback. NFL Throwback does a really good job. I

775
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: think it's affiliated with the NFL film. I'm not totally sure,

776
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: but they just do nothing. But they did. They did

777
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: like a thirty minute Priest Holmes video that I watched

778
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: all the way through.

779
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is brilliant.

780
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: They talked about how Priest Holmes was so dominant in

781
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: this short period, kind of like arian Us.

782
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: Teammate priests of nd Kalud.

783
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the uh so Aaron fought. So they have

784
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: highlights and so I'm not it's not like just spotty.

785
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: It's highlights from every game he played in throughout his career.

786
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 2: It's twenty five minutes long, and I'm just sitting watching

787
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: best runs.

788
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: Basically.

789
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: It's runs, it's catches, it's some you know, uh, it's

790
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: some of his interviews. A couple of his interviews I

791
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: think are in it's really it's exceptional. Yeah, and it's

792
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: just you like, wow, I'm scratching my head, going, holy cow,

793
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: he's so good in this year. And then you realize,

794
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: oh wait, the highlights for twenty thirteen were pretty short.

795
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: Oh ten eleven really long and and well. And then

796
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: they showed one highlight, one highlight of twenty sixteen with

797
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, just one. That was it, and that just

798
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 2: showed you Ten eleven tremendous, twelve banged up, thirteen really short. Fourteen.

799
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: I thought in fourteen it was my first year down

800
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: the sidelines, I thought he was. He was incredible, and.

801
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: Hold on, he was really really good.

802
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: In twelve, I thought he was.

803
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: He like led the he led the eleven.

804
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: Twelve.

805
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, so thirteen was hurt. Okay, my bad.

806
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Thirteen was hurt, so highlight short. But then fourteen and

807
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: I'm watching all these years after, you know, that being

808
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: my first year on the sideline, and I'm remembering, my god,

809
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: how good he was he was.

810
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he made a catch against the Eagles.

811
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: They ran him on a wheel route against the Eagles,

812
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: and I think that was battle red Sunday and run

813
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: him out on a wheel route and a throw. It's

814
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: kind of perfect and kind of not all the same time,

815
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: like he's got a void. I think it was kind

816
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: of barbering coverage actually, And so he's got a up

817
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: on a defender whoever it was, and the ball is low,

818
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: it's like it's near his shoe tops, but Arian goes

819
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: down and catches it at his shoe tops without sliding,

820
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: without falling at his shoe tops, never broke stride. Sugar

821
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: guy at the five yard line goes in the end

822
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: zone for a touchdown, And I remember seeing that live,

823
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: going well, that was really impressive, and seeing it again

824
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: and again and seeing it nine years later, going.

825
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he was tremendous.

826
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Really have an appreciation for him down the road, and look,

827
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: maybe that's that's a part of this too. Maybe the

828
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: appreciation for a player happens, you know, down the road

829
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: with time, you go back and you tell all these

830
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, tremendous stories about these particular players, and you know,

831
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: maybe you go, wait a second, hey, that I think

832
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: that person should be in the Ring of Honor. Look,

833
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: it's really up to a couple of a couple of

834
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: people in one family to decide who's going to go

835
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: into the Ring of Honor.

836
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: But you know, you can go one way and just

837
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: have a strict formula where you go.

838
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: Another way and kind of come up with a you

839
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: know more subjective way of doing it. But either way,

840
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: there'll be a few minutes that go up there in

841
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor, hopefully and hopefully, holding to what

842
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: the macnaire said, hopefully there are super Bowls in the future,

843
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: guys that helped drive down to a super Bowl will

844
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: go up in that Ring of honor.

845
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: All right.

846
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 7: So, since we were talking about Arian Foster, today's Twitter

847
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 7: question is, what was your favorite Arian Foster touchdown?

848
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: Wow?

849
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: Favorite Arian Foster?

850
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 4: Oh?

851
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: I got one, I got one, I got one. This

852
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 2: is gonna this is this is gonna be the most

853
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 2: unsexy thing ever.

854
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: Right.

855
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen went to Jacksonville and it was a game

856
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: in which I think the Texans won by a couple

857
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: of touchdowns.

858
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: In the end.

859
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: It was I can't remember that the final score, but

860
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: I know the Texts ended up winning because they'd be

861
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: Jacksonville ever up until this past year. It's fourth and

862
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: one on a goal line, fourth and goal from like

863
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: the one, maybe just outside the one. Bill Brodn decided

864
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: to go for it and he said, I had to

865
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: handleball on Aaron Foster and it play is dead completely

866
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: totally to the right, dead to the right. Yeah, he

867
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: somehow wiggles out of a tackle, stops on a dime,

868
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: cuts completely back the other way, and then saunters into

869
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: the end zone. And I remember thinking, this guy is

870
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: the best receiving running back I've ever seen.

871
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: He's the best zone running back I've ever seen.

872
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's arguable that he's the best

873
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: short yardage back the Texans have ever had. Yeah, he

874
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: was tremendous in the short yardage. It wasn't because he

875
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Speaker 2: was going to run people over. He had a knack

876
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: of just finding a little bit of space making that cut,

877
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: but he was getting in that end zone. In twenty fourteen,

878
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: he was getting in that end zone on that play.

879
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: And I'm staying it right there at the goal line

880
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 2: and I see it, I'm like on my first reaction

881
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: is oh, pleep because i can see how they penetrated

882
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: on that side, and I'm like, this play's dead.

883
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: It's dead.

884
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: And he made it right somehow, And that to me

885
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: is the great ones. The great ones make it right. Now.

886
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 7: That was a good one I liked twenty eleven here

887
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 7: at home against Pittsburgh and.

888
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: He breaks free over the touchdown. It's a long one.

889
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: You see Troy Polamalu, Dove and miss them. So, yeah,

890
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: that was mine. This has been in the lab.

891
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: They have it.

892
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: Drew Doherty and myself talking about the Ring of Honor,

893
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: and I know there are gonna be a lot of

894
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: different opinions on it. I think the biggest thing is,

895
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, what does McNair family believe in? And then

896
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: we talked about that and if you want to keep

897
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: it super special, the greats of the greats go in,

898
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: then yeah, it might be a little while before we

899
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: get somebody in there, but there'll be somebody just gonna

900
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: take a minute or two before we can get there.

901
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: Maybe win a Super Bowl. See what happens at that

902
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl, and Demico Ryans will go in

903
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: that Ring of Honor at some point whenever it's all

904
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: said and done. That could be down the road. And

905
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: hopefully that is way way down the road. Let's just

906
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: get through season one and see where we go from there.

907
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: All right, we get back a couple of notes around

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Speaker 2: the NFL. We'll do that next right here in Texas,

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Speaker 2: All Access were going find us this Wednesday, Nation of

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00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: Texans All Acts, says John Harris. Here football had a

911
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans and let's go running NFL.

912
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: But you know what, let's just keep it close to home.

913
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about the Texans here. I don't think

914
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: we hit.

915
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: On this one.

916
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: In fact, I saw Drew tweet this a day maybe

917
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: two ago, and the main account of Texas Twitter put

918
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Speaker 2: this out today. Red hot times three. The battle red

919
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: helmet will be worn not one, not two, but three

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00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: times this year.

921
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: Three times now.

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00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that I talked to anybody that didn't

923
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: like the red helmet. You talk to the players, they

924
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: loved them. They absolutely love those red helmets. I love

925
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: the look that night against Philadelphia. I mean it was

926
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: that was just, I mean, totally a baller look and

927
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: I loved it. So three times now. One of them

928
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Speaker 2: I know for sure is gonna be battle Red Day

929
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Speaker 2: against the Jacksonville Jaguars if I remember that correct. Oh no, no, no,

930
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's early. We play at Jacksonville early. We

931
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Speaker 2: will wear that November twenty sixth, battle Red Day against

932
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Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars.

933
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Speaker 1: I love battle Red Day. I've loved the red jerseys forever.

934
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Speaker 2: And when they added the red lids, oh man, absolutely awesome.

935
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Speaker 2: Now they've also the Texans have also us. We've put

936
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Speaker 2: on our game themes this year. Now we know that

937
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: the opening game is against Indiana. That's a Indiana Indiana Indianapolis.

938
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Speaker 2: That's a kickoff game, so Liberty White, I'm assuming, but

939
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: that's a kickoff game.

940
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Speaker 1: On September seventeenth, the.

941
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Speaker 2: Next home game, that's JJ Watt Induction Day aka Legends Homecoming.

942
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: That is going to be a huge day because there

943
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: are gonna be a ton of Legends that come back

944
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: for that one to see JJ go up in the

945
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: Ring of Honor. Obviously, October is crucial catch month. The

946
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Speaker 2: Crucial Catch game will be October fifteenth against New Saints.

947
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: Kids Day is against Tampa Bay November fifth. You've got

948
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Speaker 2: the Salute to Service, the First Responders Appreciation Day November

949
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Speaker 2: nineteenth against Arizona. We talked about battle Red Day against

950
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. My cause Mike Cleats is taking place

951
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: December third against the Denver Broncos.

952
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: That's another one of my favorites. I love that game.

953
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: You've also got the Holiday game that is then gonna

954
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: be December twenty fourth, if my math is correct.

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00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Against who do we play at twenty fourth. Gosh, why

956
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: am I playing?

957
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh gosh, how can I forget who we're playing?

958
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: Playing Cleveland Browns. That's holiday game. And then repin' h town.

959
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: I like this one on December thirty one against the

960
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, who probably will have worn oilers jerseys against

961
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: the Texans a couple of weeks prior. So we're gonna

962
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 2: rep Eagchtown for last week against him, the real htown,

963
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: not the fake htown that moved up to Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Little news around the NFL, which really news about the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys for being here. Will be back tomorrow

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00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: with much much more. John mcclan will join us, and

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Speaker 2: we hope you enjoy it. We'll see them all everybody

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Speaker 2: big thanks to everybody to participating on the show.

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Speaker 1: And as always, as Travis Johnson says, go Texans.