WEBVTT - Advance Placement: Why the Credit Score System is Racist

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<v Speaker 1>An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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<v Speaker 1>in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador

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<v Speaker 1>accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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<v Speaker 1>filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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<v Speaker 1>some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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<v Speaker 1>Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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<v Speaker 1>crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will

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<v Speaker 1>never return. But if you register using our CBP home

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<v Speaker 1>app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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<v Speaker 1>Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws,

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<v Speaker 2>Be protected sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 3>So banks make money by investing other people's money, right yeah, essentially,

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<v Speaker 3>and they invest the money in loaning it out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's basically they take it to posits, they loan it

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<v Speaker 4>out live on the spread primarily.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is you guys' investment strategy or what what

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<v Speaker 3>do you guys invest take consume much money in.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not about necessarily investing at the at the

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<v Speaker 4>whole and company level. Any investment we make has to

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<v Speaker 4>be approved by the federal regulatory bodies. UH, there will

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<v Speaker 4>be opportunities to do that, and I do think that

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<v Speaker 4>some of the work that we talked that we just

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<v Speaker 4>talked about in FinTechs, I think it's appropriate for us

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<v Speaker 4>to look at figuring out how do we spark more

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<v Speaker 4>innovation in the fintech space so that we can close

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<v Speaker 4>that ecosystem. So investing in technology and in businesses that

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<v Speaker 4>are in that space would make a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 4>for us. But what makes the technology we're talking about it?

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<v Speaker 4>You have to be able to in a post COVID

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<v Speaker 4>world where you know, nobody's walking in a bank to

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<v Speaker 4>do anything right now unless you just have have to.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to be able to get a concierge level

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<v Speaker 4>of banking, so that right now, where you're sitting at

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<v Speaker 4>wherever you are right now, if you decide that, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I'm just going to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 4>buy his second house in New Orleans. I need to

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<v Speaker 4>just figure this out. We have to provide the concierge

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<v Speaker 4>level of banking so you don't feel like you're on

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<v Speaker 4>your own. That technology needs to be seamless, but it

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<v Speaker 4>still has to have real people working with you. Only

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<v Speaker 4>four percent of African Americans use Small Business Administration loans

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<v Speaker 4>and that's government guaranteed loans. That's the easiest way of

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<v Speaker 4>getting loans for businesses that have a hard time in

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<v Speaker 4>the dead field. Only four percent. And I used to

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<v Speaker 4>I was at SBA. You know, I was the regional

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<v Speaker 4>administrator for SBA for the Southeast United States. At the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day's that is one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>strategies we have out here because we're not getting access

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<v Speaker 4>to these resources. But I get why people don't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like a headache. Nobody wants to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to create. JP Morgan gives a fifty million

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<v Speaker 4>dollar customer is what we give a fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>customer redemption that level of handholding, working with you every

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<v Speaker 4>step of a way to make sure you get access

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<v Speaker 4>to the products and services. So what we invest in

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<v Speaker 4>is like we take these deposits that people that these

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<v Speaker 4>big corporations are giving us, and then we turn them

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<v Speaker 4>into loans and opportunities, whether it's your home loan, your

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<v Speaker 4>business loan, your faith based organization loan. We create debt

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<v Speaker 4>based opportunities. And when it comes to investing, it is

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<v Speaker 4>critically important for us to look at investing at any

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<v Speaker 4>business that closes the racial wealth gap and secures the

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<v Speaker 4>ecosystem for black wealth. If anybody's in that space, then

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely that's something Redemption should be looking at investing in.

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<v Speaker 5>So the numbers are staggering, right, like you said in

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<v Speaker 5>the sixties, is one hundred and thirty five black banks

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<v Speaker 5>about the early two thousands dot com bubble with down

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<v Speaker 5>to forty seven today, were roughly about sixteen to seventeen

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<v Speaker 5>of those banks. However, inside of that sixteen to seventeen,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know how many of them manage over a

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<v Speaker 5>billion dollars, Right, So there's one, Yeah, there's one that

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<v Speaker 5>manages over a billion dollars. How do we get the clientele,

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<v Speaker 5>the corporate accounts, the customers is with that high net

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<v Speaker 5>value to be part of Redemption Bank? Like, what's the

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<v Speaker 5>marketing plan? What's the strategy to make sure we're getting

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<v Speaker 5>this type of clientele so that we have enough money

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<v Speaker 5>to now lend out to our community.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so just a little bit about how this banking works.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of the day, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>these banks are in low to modern income areas, regulators

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<v Speaker 4>look at their loans and say they're risky. And now, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>historically this has been deemed as racist in many aspects.

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<v Speaker 4>They grade out every loan and we see I've talked

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<v Speaker 4>to black bank presidents that would tell me I got

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<v Speaker 4>regulators coming in here grading my loans for a barbershops risky.

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<v Speaker 4>When these people have never missed the loan, they paid

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<v Speaker 4>on time, they've done everything I've asked them to do.

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<v Speaker 4>But because they in this neighborhood, they get treated as

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<v Speaker 4>though as risky. And what that means is if that

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<v Speaker 4>loans for one hundred thousand dollars, then the regulator tells

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<v Speaker 4>that bank you need to keep one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>of cash in your reserve because that loan may go under.

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<v Speaker 4>Now what that means is that you got to keep

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<v Speaker 4>that one hundred thousand dollars and it's not on the

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<v Speaker 4>street making money anymore. You got to hold you got

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<v Speaker 4>to hold it. So what we do to get around that,

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<v Speaker 4>what we're going to be able to do is say, look,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we're going to cast a wider net. See,

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<v Speaker 4>most black banks are CDFIs. They're highly concentrated in cities,

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<v Speaker 4>in regional areas. We're choosing not to be a CDF

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<v Speaker 4>five because unfortunately cdfives are too often equated to nonprofits

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<v Speaker 4>and they have all these restrictions. Don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 4>they do the really hard work. They are mission driven. However,

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<v Speaker 4>not taking that label and just being a straight up bank,

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<v Speaker 4>you get an opportunity to play across the country. You

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<v Speaker 4>get an opportunity to recruit across the country. And this

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<v Speaker 4>bank was built by black entrepreneurs, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest difference having a bank that eighty five percent

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<v Speaker 4>of our black investors are entrepreneurs, doctors, lawyers, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>hedge fund folks, private equity people. We got one pitch,

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<v Speaker 4>Let's build a bank we actually use. That's something. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>build a bank that you, me and everybody who wants

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<v Speaker 4>to bank black will actually use. Now we can all

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<v Speaker 4>have a conversation about why we don't bank black now,

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<v Speaker 4>and we know what those reasons are, well, let's alleviate

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<v Speaker 4>those reasons by creating a bank that gives me the

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<v Speaker 4>service I need and the access to credit I need.

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<v Speaker 4>How I need it to make sure my business grow.

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<v Speaker 4>If we can do that, then naturally I believe that

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<v Speaker 4>black people will support black owned banks. But if you can't,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't make that up. You got to show up

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<v Speaker 4>with the services. We don't give each other a pass.

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<v Speaker 4>How many how many of us got black bank cards

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<v Speaker 4>in our wallet but may not even use them? And

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<v Speaker 4>then their study at Stanford a while back that showed

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<v Speaker 4>that sixty four percent of black people said they would

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<v Speaker 4>automatically go move to a black bank if they felt

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<v Speaker 4>they got the services that they could get at a

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<v Speaker 4>white bank. We gotta beat that threshold. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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<v Speaker 1>in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from El Salvador

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<v Speaker 1>accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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<v Speaker 1>filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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<v Speaker 1>some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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<v Speaker 1>Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christine Noman, the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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<v Speaker 1>crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported, you will

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<v Speaker 1>never return. But if you register using our CBP home

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<v Speaker 1>app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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<v Speaker 1>Do what's right. Leave now under President Trump America's laws

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<v Speaker 1>border and families will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be protected sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 2>Home People support and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm okay with it. I'm not afraid of competing. That's

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<v Speaker 4>exactly why we're doing this in Utah so we can

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<v Speaker 4>have access to the resources in a regulatory environment so

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<v Speaker 4>that we can compete. I don't want you come to

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<v Speaker 4>be just because I'm back. Once you come because I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>best of what I do and you believe in what

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing, because we want to be the best for us.

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<v Speaker 6>I think over the last twenty years banks have been

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<v Speaker 6>in a crisis. This year, mid size and small banks

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<v Speaker 6>have been falling apart on publicanas, trade to market. What

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<v Speaker 6>are some of those services that people need and what

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<v Speaker 6>do you think banks can do better if I'm being

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<v Speaker 6>honest to have our trust, because when I talk about

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of banking stocks on the show, not many

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<v Speaker 6>people say that they trust banks, and for a multitude

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<v Speaker 6>of reasons. Can you address, like what you're going to

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<v Speaker 6>do to build those kind of relations where they do trust?

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<v Speaker 6>And then what do you think some of those services

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<v Speaker 6>that people would need to make us want to bank

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<v Speaker 6>with you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know the distrust of African Americans and the banks

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<v Speaker 4>has been since the since right after the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 4>W the Boys said it the best when the Freeman's Bureau,

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<v Speaker 4>which was created for free people, ended up being a

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<v Speaker 4>Ponzi scam and deleting ninety percent of all black wealth.

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<v Speaker 4>When that bank closed, nobody got to refund, nobody got

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<v Speaker 4>to io you. It was just gone. WB the Boys said,

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<v Speaker 4>it would have been better off if we had to

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<v Speaker 4>remain slaves for another decade, then to suffer the ramifications

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<v Speaker 4>psychologically of losing all of our money in a federal

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<v Speaker 4>bank that the government created, and we are the children

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<v Speaker 4>of that distrust. We're still here and the trust is

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<v Speaker 4>still real. So it starts with the fact of who's

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<v Speaker 4>running the bank. Can you put faith in these people

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<v Speaker 4>that run the bank? And then two, when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>down to making a decision. I know, we got laws

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<v Speaker 4>that's supposed to say it's anti discriminatory, you should not

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<v Speaker 4>use race in a negative way. But the numbers are

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<v Speaker 4>the numbers. We have to be able to think outside

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<v Speaker 4>of the box. Because I'm gonna tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 4>as long as we rely on credit scores in this

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<v Speaker 4>country as a primary indicator of who's worthy of owning

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<v Speaker 4>anything or getting access to credit, we will fundamentally have

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<v Speaker 4>a racist system. So the future of banking has to

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<v Speaker 4>be around looking at people more than a credit score.

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<v Speaker 4>The future of banking has to be able to see

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<v Speaker 4>people from cash flow. And you and I know dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with black entrepreneurs. Ninety percent of us are sold entrepreneurs,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of them just go straight cash because

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<v Speaker 4>they don't for the exact reasons. They'd rather just be

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<v Speaker 4>a cash based business than go into debt. But that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean they're not good at what they're doing. They're

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<v Speaker 4>actually slowing themselves down by not leveraging credit. But if

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<v Speaker 4>we could go to them and show them, look, the

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<v Speaker 4>decisions will be based off of more than this algorithm.

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<v Speaker 4>And that algorithm that experience Echo Facts and TransUnion put

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<v Speaker 4>out there says that fifty percent of black people shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be trusted. That's what it says, and so any system

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<v Speaker 4>that possibly could believe the fifty percent of us shouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>be trusted to get along, that system shouldn't be trusted.

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<v Speaker 4>So we must be at the forefront, all of us

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<v Speaker 4>who are in this space and moving our people away

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<v Speaker 4>from these antiquated algorithms that talk about credit scoring in

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<v Speaker 4>a way that limits our ability to have full access

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<v Speaker 4>to this capitalist economy.

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<v Speaker 3>So, okay, when doctor Martin Luther King dicead it was

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty banks, right, black banks on hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty five, one hundred and thirty five yep, And

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<v Speaker 3>now there is twenty right, So that's pretty disturbing. So

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<v Speaker 3>a how come that isn't something that people have talked

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<v Speaker 3>about a lot? And why has that drastic Because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>at this point is probably going to be zero if

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<v Speaker 3>this trend continue in the next thirty years, that there's

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna be any any black owned banks at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So what is the root cause for the for the

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<v Speaker 3>collapse of black banks? And why has it anybody really

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<v Speaker 3>been champion that?

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<v Speaker 4>Look, that's a great question. A dear friend of ours, Mersa,

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<v Speaker 4>wrote the book Color of Money. If you want to,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're out here right now, you want to read

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<v Speaker 4>the history of all this, The Color of Money, black

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<v Speaker 4>banks and closing the racial wealth gap, take a look

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<v Speaker 4>at it. Give her a shout out. She did an

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<v Speaker 4>amazing book there. But let me give you some personal

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<v Speaker 4>history here. My family started a black bank in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>thirty six in Georgia, South Georgia Baker Byromville. This bank

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<v Speaker 4>was started by my great great grandfather and his brother

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<v Speaker 4>in law, and it was built for the fact of

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted to create a bank that could finance sharecroppers

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<v Speaker 4>to buy the land that they were sharecropping on. Because

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<v Speaker 4>everybody knew that when slaves left and started sharecropping that

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<v Speaker 4>ten percent was just a way to stay alive long

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<v Speaker 4>enough to keep working. But we created a bank that

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<v Speaker 4>could finance them buying the land that they were formerly

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<v Speaker 4>slaves on, and these sharecroppers could go and create prosperous

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<v Speaker 4>lives and it worked. Now. That bank ran from nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>thirty four, and in nineteen thirty four it was about

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and eighty black banks. There was a tremendous

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<v Speaker 4>amount of black banks. We went out. We lost that

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<v Speaker 4>bank in nineteen seventy six. We lost that bank in

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<v Speaker 4>seventy six because the American economy declined right after Vietnam War.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything was economically trash. Really a lot of hints of

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<v Speaker 4>where we are right now. But we were forced We

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<v Speaker 4>were forced out. It wasn't like we just closed because

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't have business. The bank closed because regulators were

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<v Speaker 4>over regulating black banks and not giving us the same

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<v Speaker 4>treatment as they were giving white banks. The regulators at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, all the police at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the day, they are the police of the industry.

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<v Speaker 4>And we all know policing is different in different neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 4>In our neighborhood with the black banking neighborhood, traditionally, those

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<v Speaker 4>regulators have been harder on black banks, not making them

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<v Speaker 4>have the capital requirements that white banks had, and forcing

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<v Speaker 4>us in the situations where ultimate, my family's bank was

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<v Speaker 4>forced to auction. Now because we're making money, we got

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<v Speaker 4>forced to auction, like literally auctioned off. And we know

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<v Speaker 4>what that looks like in the Deep South, right, And

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately that our black bank was auctioned off and got

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<v Speaker 4>rolled up into what we call now P and C Bank.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the story of America.

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<v Speaker 3>So your bank got turned in to P and C Bank, right.

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