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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from the

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Speaker 2: Honday Texans Radio studio, John Harris alongside the Voice of

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Speaker 2: the Texans, Mark Vandermier. Mark, I did the math just

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Speaker 2: now is I was introing the show April twenty fifth.

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Speaker 2: Is the draft today's April seventeenth, or eight days away?

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Speaker 1: That's a you're a good mate. Days away, I can

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Speaker 1: do math.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think that was going to be a problem

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Speaker 3: for you. Uniform reveal coming up soon enough, Tuesday, six days,

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Speaker 3: six days to that. Oh by the way, I have

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Speaker 3: my Mark Vandermier Junior Achievement golf Tournament on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, which is not a celebrity tournament.

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Speaker 3: So if you are a celebrity and you're listening and

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Speaker 3: wondering why I did not invite you, that's why it's

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Speaker 3: not a celebrity tournament. It benefits junior achievement. I've been

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Speaker 3: doing it for twenty years now. It feels like three,

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Speaker 3: but I've been doing it for twenty years. And thanks

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Speaker 3: to Apache Industrial Services and SNH Manufacturing and all my

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Speaker 3: forensic group, One Auto and everybody else who sponsored the event.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that on Monday. There is my plug.

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Speaker 1: That is awesome, That is very very cool. I'm glad that.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you have continued to do that.

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Speaker 2: I Monday will be over at KBO talking to our

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Speaker 2: ticketing people about the draft, doing our annual download as

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Speaker 2: it's called.

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Speaker 1: Did I not get invited to that?

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't have been able to make it anyway

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Speaker 3: because my tournament, Monday tournament, My tournament's on Draft week.

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Speaker 3: It was the kind of thing where we couldn't get

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'll have to take it now.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know we were going to do the reveal

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Speaker 3: next week when we booked the tournament last May, right

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Speaker 3: right after the last one, so I didn't know what

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Speaker 3: And then I thought we're gonna have a reveal party

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Speaker 3: on Monday, and I thought, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: But it's not. It's all going to happen. It's a

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Speaker 1: huge week.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Andre's golf tournament is next Wednesday. The Brothers in

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Speaker 3: Arms Golf Tournament twenty fourth with Warren Moon and Vince Young. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Patty Smith, Holy cow, it is on Wednesday at Carlton Woods.

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Speaker 3: And it is a busy week, but it's a great week. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because the Draft, as you know, it's not just Thursday

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Speaker 3: night Friday night Draft party at Avenida Houston. It is

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Speaker 3: three days of peace, love and music. Oh no, that

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Speaker 3: was Woodstock. It's three days of NFL Draft selections and

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Speaker 3: it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: It is awesome. By the end of it, I'm pretty sapped.

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Speaker 2: I gotta admit, I gotta get my juice. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for it, don't get me wrong, But every

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Speaker 2: time that I finished my draft guide, there is this

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Speaker 2: just release in letdown because I'm going one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty miles in the left lane, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: I come to a complete and total like once I

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Speaker 2: put it in the guide, it's like it's done, Like

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: There's obviously some players I'm you know, still looking at that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just curious about, like, hey, I got

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Speaker 1: I don't want changed the ranking right now. Juice Scruggs

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Speaker 2: I was really a treat with Juice last year, and

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Speaker 2: so I watched him after my guide was put out.

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Speaker 2: Dang it, I'm too low. I'm way too low on him.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just literally I'm hitting the brakes this week,

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Speaker 1: But I love it.

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Speaker 2: But you know what I was doing two years ago,

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Speaker 2: on April twenty eighth, the day of the draft.

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Speaker 2: So basically with my family out in La did all

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Speaker 2: I that morning two years ago, was in the house

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Speaker 2: Andre on Thursday Thurst week here in the hun Day

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Speaker 1: Then Friday at Abanda Houston with Seth Payne.

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Speaker 2: So our TVs are all we got to make sure

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Speaker 2: so we can see the picks we hit all the audio.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Texas Audio at Jukebox of c J Stroud, and I'd

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Speaker 2: got me thinking. First of all, congratulations to Miko Senior

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Speaker 2: And I mean, I know that's that's just his way.

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Speaker 3: Well, I observe him coaching, and I see how technically

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Speaker 3: I think the physical presence is a factor as well. Yes,

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Speaker 3: there's something about that. It looks like he could still

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: In fact, if we do the contest, we'll do it

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Speaker 3: right now, most buff Texans coaches. Let's do the power

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Speaker 3: rankings to be going number one. Dom Caper's two. Are

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Speaker 3: The rest of them. Oh, and they're gonna get upset.

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Speaker 3: observing Dimico coach Johnny. It's the whole package, right.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 3: Enthusiastic, motivational coaches with joy, wants his players to play

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Speaker 3: you four letters, W W D D what would Demiko do?

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Speaker 1: And it applies to almost everything in your life.

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Speaker 3: Next time you have a perplexing issue, think what would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tmiko Ryans. I'm barely joking at that last one.

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Speaker 3: eager to see where it goes from here. The thing

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Speaker 3: Can they do it to get to that stage again?

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Speaker 3: When you're in the divisional round and have a chance

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Speaker 1: But I'm here for the journey. We all are, and

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Speaker 2: I always think about states of matter when it comes

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Speaker 2: well the GOGA win a Super Bowl, Well you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: You gotta get to the AFC Championship, g and then

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Speaker 2: you gotta get the Super Bowl. You gotta win one

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Speaker 1: I mean there's so much energy that goes into just

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Speaker 2: I love the way you were a different type of

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Speaker 3: But go back to you gotta win one more. At least,

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Speaker 3: you gotta win one more, one more, and you really

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Speaker 3: want to win three more, right, correct, But you really

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Speaker 3: have to win eleven more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta win those ten eleven games to win

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Speaker 1: You've got to win those games. So you have zero

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Speaker 2: You know. Edlman has a podcast. He talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Playoff money right, legendary status in New England, if not

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Speaker 3: other places. You know, they have Danny A. Mondola who

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because there's an article that came out today

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Speaker 1: Look, we all I.

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Speaker 3: It was a disaster when we won the super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: No, we didn't have much joy celebrating it. But you

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Speaker 1: You did? I'd love So there you go. It's good,

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Speaker 1: good discussion.

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Speaker 2: We got our guy, Doug Vasik, Senior Vice president of Marketing,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what we're gonna talk about. Oh, yeah, some unis.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Honday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris.

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Speaker 2: Football on All Sideline Reporter And as it's at the

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Speaker 2: end of the last segment, boy, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: Obviously the Draft.

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Speaker 2: The Draft party gonna be on Friday, where we will

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Speaker 1: Down at Amanitas Houston, right there in front of GEORGI R. Brown.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. I always loved the draft party.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be obviously action going on at night, all

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Speaker 2: there is a uniform reveal if you didn't know. Doug Vosa,

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Speaker 2: Senior Vice president of Marketing, Communications and Ticketing, join Mark

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Speaker 3: Doug, welk up to the studio once again. I think

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Speaker 3: this is your third or fourth visit. I'm losing count

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Speaker 3: since you started here many years ago.

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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: We might count differently. I think I've been a very

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Speaker 4: So let's rock today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this, would you like

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Speaker 4: Everyone appreciates an outlet sometimes sometimes it's just very variable

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Speaker 2: That's maybe the word outlet that interesting and what the

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Speaker 4: See, maybe I'm just the marketing guy, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, we do talk marketing sometimes here.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about Super Bowl commercials the day or two after,

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Speaker 1: How things are moving in the industry. It's very cool.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of things moving in the industry, there's a rumor

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Speaker 4: You heard that. How did that leak? Oh, leak? That's

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Speaker 4: Day, the twenty third.

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Speaker 3: It's almost here, Yeah, it is almost here. But let's

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Speaker 1: But that had to be a very interesting day in

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Speaker 1: the organization.

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Speaker 4: It was and Dre, I go like this and go,

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Speaker 4: was that leak intentional?

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Speaker 1: Well you're asking the question.

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Speaker 4: Because it turned out good at the end of the day, right,

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Speaker 4: So can I give a little background on so you know,

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Speaker 4: I think our friends on various media outlets had a

446
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Speaker 4: little fun with the leak, right, how the model looked,

447
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 4: and you know, the bad photo and all those kinds

448
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Speaker 4: of things, and you know, parties like shame on us.

449
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Speaker 4: We had so many security measures. We took everyone's phones,

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Speaker 4: we put them in zip block bags. Right, someone must

451
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Speaker 4: have snug someone in somewhere, right, so you know it

452
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Speaker 4: does happen. But well a lot of you know, people

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Speaker 4: don't realize or maybe didn't give us a little grace

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Speaker 4: on is that enduring? Those days? Those are shoot days.

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Speaker 4: That's when the players come in, right, see the uniforms

456
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Speaker 4: the first time and you get you know, six or

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Speaker 4: seven of the guys to come in and spend eight

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Speaker 4: hours with you over two days shooting. Before the shoot though,

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Speaker 4: there's hours of work, meaning there's you know, stand in

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Speaker 4: models so you can get the lighting right and get

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Speaker 4: the get the smoke right. When you see the one video, right,

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Speaker 4: there's stand in models when you want to do just

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Speaker 4: like employee previews, right and things like that. So, yes,

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Speaker 4: the leaked photo was a stand in model, but in

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Speaker 4: no way like the oh check out the uniform guy, right,

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Speaker 4: So you know we didn't get so much grace on

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Speaker 4: that one. But I get it, I get it everyone.

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Speaker 4: I had to have some fun. But yeah, it's the

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Speaker 4: stand in models to get stuff ready. Yeah, leave it

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Speaker 4: at that. But what I would say to your question

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Speaker 4: of like, yes, that thing went out, and maybe a

472
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Speaker 4: couple of us were like, whoa boy, it leaked and

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Speaker 4: it was a bad photo.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you get a leak and it's like the jersey

476
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Speaker 4: hanging on a shelf at dicks By accident and it

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Speaker 4: looks relatively good. Right, this case, that was a bad photo.

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Speaker 4: So honestly, it didn't take long. Within minutes, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're just down with Calan Hannah and we said, hey,

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Speaker 4: it leaked. It's unfortunate. Nothing we can do about it now, right.

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Speaker 4: We had two choices, right, One is what I would

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Speaker 4: say ninety seven percent of teams do is you know,

483
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Speaker 4: la la la, Right, nothing happened, right, and you can

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Speaker 4: see what the amount of the uniforms coming out across

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Speaker 4: all these leagues. Now leaks happen more and more so,

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Speaker 4: so many teams will just be like, yeah, we got

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Speaker 4: our plan. Oh well uh, but you know, we started

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Speaker 4: quickly talking about, like Cal like as part of your

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Speaker 4: feelings evolution mantra. For us, we've been doing a lot

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Speaker 4: of things differently, and we've been starting to become very

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Speaker 4: progressive in our marketing and our communication style. And you know,

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Speaker 4: a progressive organization would get after it, a progressive organization

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Speaker 4: that's that's fearless would say, let's respond right in a

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Speaker 4: big way. And honestly, very quickly, the conversation switched to

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Speaker 4: Cal being like, I really enjoy when I go and Reddit,

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Speaker 4: right because he does once or twice a year he

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Speaker 4: intersects with the fans, does an Ama. It's usually around,

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Speaker 4: you know, right before the season starts, and he's like,

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Speaker 4: I got a great platform there. It's been a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun joking with the fans. Yep, let's go and Reddit.

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Speaker 4: And of course and all of us were like, absolutely, Cal,

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Speaker 4: let's go on Reddit. So it happened that quick and

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Speaker 4: within minutes we're posting the real photo of Nico and Tank.

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Speaker 4: We all know that that photo looked a thousand times better,

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Speaker 4: the uniforms looked a thousand times better, and what you

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Speaker 4: really saw was just phenomenal. And the metrics of it.

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Speaker 4: If you look at all the mentions that happened at

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Speaker 4: the leak, you know, call it call it down here.

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Speaker 4: As soon as Cal went on Reddit and we amplified

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Speaker 4: of course to Twitter, the mentions were four or five x,

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Speaker 4: just like that. By putting out a good photo and

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Speaker 4: doing it in a really cool way with Cal. So

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Speaker 4: that was just the volume, just four or five x.

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Speaker 4: And then the flip side was the sentiment. When that

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Speaker 4: leak came out, it was like twenty percent positive, eighty

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Speaker 4: percent negative, right, it was bad. Cal puts out the

517
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Speaker 4: real photo and I'm not exaggerating, eighty percent positive, just

518
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Speaker 4: like that, a real photo with the players looking awesome

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Speaker 4: and killer those in those new unis, and like the

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Speaker 4: mentions flipped, the sentiment flipped, and we're like, all right,

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Speaker 4: way to take you know, you know, lemons and lemonade,

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Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. But you know, real quick work,

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Speaker 4: got it done, and it was awesome work with Calunt Doug.

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Speaker 2: I always think about this when there's a project of

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Speaker 2: this magnitude that you work on for and I mean

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Speaker 2: you've been here over over two years now almost two years,

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Speaker 2: and I know that this has been a project that

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Speaker 2: a lot of people have worked on, and I know

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Speaker 2: that you've worked on it. I always imagine that sense

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Speaker 2: of anxiety when you opened a box to look at

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Speaker 2: him for the first time. What were your thoughts when

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Speaker 2: you opened the box and you looked at him for

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Speaker 2: the very first time, What were your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not even opening the box, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: the McNair's were kind enough to invite a bunch of

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Speaker 4: us with them to Beaverton. Yeah, so the first time

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Speaker 4: we went to Nike headquarters is when we saw them.

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Speaker 4: So they had annekins there, they had them draped and

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Speaker 4: then one by one they pulled the drapes. Okay, right, okay,

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Speaker 4: So you know, once, once you see the content that

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Speaker 4: came out of that trip, you'll you'll see Hannah and

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Speaker 4: Cal's reaction especially, and even on one of the uniforms

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Speaker 4: hadnt getting a little lightheaded because she was so excited.

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Speaker 4: Right for me, I'm a bit more of a calm,

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Speaker 4: you know, you know what, No, you know, I at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day with a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 4: If if you're working on a project that was driven

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Speaker 4: by fan feedback, as long as you listened and listened

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Speaker 4: in a real way, you have some confidence going into

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Speaker 4: whatever you're going to see. And now we've kept talking

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Speaker 4: about the four principles of design that went into this

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Speaker 4: based upon the fan feedback, but that's literally what we

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Speaker 4: brief Nike on. So there's a level of confidence to

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Speaker 4: a degree just because we listened. We were an organization

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Speaker 4: that actually applied the research versus how it can go.

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Speaker 4: Is like someone's got an opinion over there, and someone's

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Speaker 4: got an opinion over there because they have this title.

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Speaker 4: That's what we did instead. But in this case, it

560
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Speaker 4: was what do the fans want? Sounds good? So I

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Speaker 4: was pretty calm going into it and knowing that when

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Speaker 4: we approach the whole study from like how do we

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Speaker 4: make the most amount of fans happy in four different ways?

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Speaker 4: We kind of knew that, hey, that's going to lead

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Speaker 4: to bias, right right. You might look at the away

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Speaker 4: one and be like, I really like the way one.

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Speaker 4: You might hate the alternate one. Mark might look at

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Speaker 4: all four and go ooh, color rush is for me.

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Speaker 4: Home's not right, no different than me. I'm like, ooh,

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Speaker 4: alternate color rush all day, home and away. Okay. So

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Speaker 4: when you also think about it that way of like myself,

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Speaker 4: nor anyone needs the love all four because it was

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Speaker 4: intentionally made that you at least are going to like

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Speaker 4: one or two based upon your internal preference, which.

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Speaker 3: Is probably every team, every beloved team probably has a

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Speaker 3: similar feel for their uniforms. I would imagine Doug Vosik,

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Speaker 3: Senior vice president of Marketing, Communications Ticketing, Doug, how hard

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Speaker 3: is it to ultimately decide?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 3: I gotta think a lot of interesting stuff ends up

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Speaker 3: on the cutting room floor. You have to really narrow

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Speaker 3: it down. I know you have four, but my gosh,

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Speaker 3: it had to be difficult.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're We're very fortunate when you work

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Speaker 4: with NFL and Nike that you get a depth of design.

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Speaker 4: So there's four uniforms. You probably looked at half a

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Speaker 4: dozen for each, all small variations at times. We're not

588
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Speaker 4: talking about radically different design reach. So when you tell

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Speaker 4: Nike like, hey, the fans want some horns, that probably

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Speaker 4: leads to five or six designs where maybe the horn's here,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's here, Maybe all done in different ways. So

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Speaker 4: you go through a process with them with some fan

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Speaker 4: input on which horn is the best horn? Right, and

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Speaker 4: believe it or not, the amount of thought that goes

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Speaker 4: into which horn is the best horn is crazy. From Hey,

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Speaker 4: there were some fans that liked a horn coming off

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Speaker 4: the shoulder and tapering in here. The reality is that's

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Speaker 4: not how a bullhorn looks, right, That's more of like

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Speaker 4: a claw. So things that came off this way didn't

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Speaker 4: look authentic to a old horn. Right. A bull horn

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Speaker 4: for us with the Spanish fighting bowl is going is

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Speaker 4: going to curve out right, or when they're pointed down,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a little bit a little bit

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Speaker 4: in right. So you end up looking at cutting room

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Speaker 4: floor and saying, how many of these actually represent a bull?

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Speaker 4: And you can see where we landed obviously, and that

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Speaker 4: the one that tapers up is more accurate to real life.

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Speaker 4: So let's let's get as close as possible.

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Speaker 2: So the review is Tuesday, and that is going to

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Speaker 2: be an incredible day. There are some though, Doug, that

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Speaker 2: think you should have done it a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, I wish we could have, I wish we

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Speaker 4: could have. You know, you just want to get this

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00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: thing going and get it out. The reality is you

615
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Speaker 4: want all the variables to be ready. And when I

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Speaker 4: say that, once you actually get your your player inventory.

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Speaker 4: We're only eight weeks from launch, right, and that's what

618
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: that shoot was where that leak happened. So you need

619
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Speaker 4: time to do all the creative work to launch, versus like, hey, Nico,

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Speaker 4: can you put that on over there? Let me take

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Speaker 4: a picture and put it up. Maybe some fans will

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Speaker 4: be like you should have done that anyway exactly. So

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Speaker 4: this is just part of it, is the creative process.

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00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: Right Two is you you are looking at the other

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Speaker 4: side of it, which a fan sees a uniform, a

626
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 4: fan wants to be able to purchase a uniform. Right.

627
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: We could even joke about last year like we couldn't

628
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 4: keep CJ jerseys in stock right right, So think about

629
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Speaker 4: how many fans just want to see J jersey on

630
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Speaker 4: one of the new jerseys, right right. So part of

631
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Speaker 4: it is we are literally getting our shipments right now

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Speaker 4: for retail, so we'll have them ready for Tuesday, but

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00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: they're coming in now, so you can't launch earlier. Otherwise

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Speaker 4: you get fans and be like, I want the uniform, right, Oh,

635
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: I can't buy it anywhere like you know Boo Texans, Right, yeah,

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00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: so you also time it to that. And then third

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Speaker 4: is if you can look at what happens in the

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Speaker 4: NFL as you're collaborating with partners, and we collaborate with partners,

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00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 4: it's not just about your timeline. And if you look

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Speaker 4: at it over the two week spand there's four different

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Speaker 4: teams launching jerseys, so you're trying to also work with

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Speaker 4: your key partners Nike NFL to space those out so

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Speaker 4: not one on top of each other.

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Speaker 3: All right, So it's no secret that you set you

645
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Speaker 3: set about having the most transparent, visible process ever in

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Speaker 3: the history of a uniform change. And I'm probably worded

647
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: that in a clunky way, but you did that. But

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Speaker 3: what about some people who are complaining about, hey, why

649
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: is this taking not only so long? Like Johnny said,

650
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Speaker 3: but everything's out there, everything's out there for the public

651
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: except for the actual designs. But a lot of the

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Speaker 3: talk about how this thing went down, why is that

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Speaker 3: important to relay that to the fans?

654
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: Doug, are you referencing some some of our our friendlies

655
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 4: out there that have said you been talking about this

656
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 4: for a year and aby is that where we're going. Okay, okay,

657
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: I think you know, if I can, if I can

658
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: not be snarky and have fun about it, it's the

659
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: it's the reality of how we decided to run the process.

660
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: Had we run the process without fans, we would have

661
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: tucked away in a corner brief Nike in the NFL,

662
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: not talked about it, right right, come up a week

663
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: or two before draft and said, hey, you may have

664
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: heard there's new uniforms. We're confirming it here they are, right.

665
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: We decided to include fans. So when you decide to

666
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: include fans and be it transparent, you have to give updates.

667
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: If you're not giving updates, you're not being transparent. So

668
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 4: if you think about the past year and a half,

669
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: there was a research phase a year and a half

670
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: ago where we did go out and said, fans, we're

671
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: thinking about updating uniforms. Here's how you can participate, focus

672
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: group surveys, what have you. So there's a communication point

673
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: right where you're talking and saying we're doing this. So

674
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: then you get all the research and then three or

675
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: four months later you have results. So instead of hiding

676
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: and just saying all right, we're going to take those

677
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: results and go work with Nike. We said, fans, here's

678
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: what we heard. And that's where we heard those four

679
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: things right, simple, classic, modern and updated, Embrace the Bull, show,

680
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: Eah Town, some love. Right. We went out after the

681
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: research and said that's what we heard. So there was

682
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: another communication point around that, and then we were quiet

683
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: for a while. That's when you're going through designs, you're

684
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: going through samples. And the next point we really popped

685
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 4: our heads up and spoke was when we had the

686
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 4: actual player uniforms in for that shoot and to be

687
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: transparent and inclusive. For that shoot, we invited a bunch

688
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: of fans, a bunch of media members and said, hey,

689
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: this is not a media event, This is not an

690
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: opportunity to take photos and ask questions. But you've been

691
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: part of this process. Just come check them out. It

692
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: comes in five minutes with us. And look, so when

693
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: you run the process of inclusive and transparent, if you're

694
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: not giving updates, you're not delivering on that on that

695
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 4: fan promise we made.

696
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Helpe, I asked this question in the right way.

697
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: Doug.

698
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 1: You were not from Houston, but you got here as

699
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: fast as you could.

700
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: But your use of Houston and h Town really drove

701
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: the identity of these uniforms seemingly. And that was something

702
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: that from the day you walked in here, it was

703
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: just h Town. It's about Houston, it's about the city.

704
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: Why did that kind of pull you in the way

705
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: that it did? If that if that makes sense?

706
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I had a chance to sit down

707
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 4: with a good friend, Sarge, last week, and he asked

708
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 4: me similar questions, and of course he's got to throw

709
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: out He's like, Doug, you're not from here, right they

710
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: I know, I know, but I just want people.

711
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: To understand that who's dry. You know, Houston can be

712
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: very provincial about it's yeah people, but good Houston. We're inclusive.

713
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: But a lot of us were corner but got here

714
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: as fast as we could be included, you included.

715
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: I know I was one of those, all right.

716
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: It took a little while for people to get past

717
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 2: my Wisconsin accent.

718
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: You got pasted all that very very quickly in some sense.

719
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: But Houston really kind of drove it.

720
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 4: You know, I'd say, I'd say it's twofold. You know,

721
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: I'll end on the on the more important one, right,

722
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 4: you know how I kind of really talked about it

723
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 4: last week with Sarge. Is the fact that Houston and

724
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: all of its diversity leads to a culture rich city.

725
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: And culture can be defined by people as many different things.

726
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: But in my world, that's music, that's the arts, the

727
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 4: creative sciences, right, it's food culture, it's cuisine, it's street art,

728
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: it's tattoos, it's all those things. And inherently in my

729
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: own DNA, like Doug Vasik as a human, not as

730
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: an employee of Textans loves those things. So for me,

731
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: like I land in a city where you know, there's

732
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: so much of personal interest tied to the culture that

733
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: is driven by the diversity of the city that right

734
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: away I feel at home, right, I feel like this

735
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: is my spot, right, So that helped. Right, It's a

736
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: place where I fit right. It's not maybe in my

737
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: original home, but it sure feels like home right. So

738
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 4: there's part of that too. As I'd say, we have

739
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: an amazing fan base. So my first month or two

740
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: is like right at training camp and you know, I'm

741
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: just like, oh, I'm just a new marketing guy. Fans

742
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 4: wanted to talk to me, right, Fans like, hey, you're

743
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 4: the new marketing eye. Ah and I think every day

744
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: at training camp, I just found myself talking to ten

745
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 4: twenty thirty, forty fifty fans because they're so welcoming, and

746
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: in those conversations, that's where they would start giving me

747
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 4: a little bit of this feedback. Right, I'm a native

748
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: Houstonian or I've been here twenty years, this is my home.

749
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: And then we just talked about what do you love

750
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: about Sexans? What do you not love? And they loved,

751
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, the original branding. They love being Texas inspired,

752
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: They love that that swagger that they have and that

753
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 4: pride that they have. What they didn't love was they

754
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: felt that there was a gap between the team and

755
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: the city that could be to fined many ways. Right,

756
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: this team's done a lot of public good through our

757
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: Communion Foundation, but they weren't meaning that. They were meaning,

758
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: how you representing the diversity, how you embracing culture, and

759
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: maybe the last from more of a you know, cosmic

760
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 4: visual way, how are you showcasing our city? Right? Once

761
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: they said that, that led to this whole whole area

762
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 4: where you've seen us adapt anything from our game entertainment

763
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 4: to some of the non player faces that are part

764
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: of the extended Texans fam to updating uniforms emerg based

765
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: upon how you've become a little bit more connected to

766
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 4: the city.

767
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: How do you gauge success Tuesday and moving forward from

768
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: Tuesday upon the release of the new uniforms.

769
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 4: You know, success is a is a hard thing to

770
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: define sometimes because part of it is long game, right,

771
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 4: part of it is hey, over the next couple years,

772
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 4: how does the fan demand look on the uniforms? Which

773
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 4: when you say fandoman, you're really talking about retail retail sales, right.

774
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 4: Ultimately that's how the fan tells you, did you get

775
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: one of the four right? Or multiple ones? Right? So

776
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: I I don't buy them? Guess what, they probably didn't

777
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: like them, So part of it is that, but sometimes

778
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 4: that takes multi year. We all know the way uniform

779
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: looks on the field on repeated games looks way different

780
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 4: than some photos we put out launch right, So part

781
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: as the build over time. So as a leader, you

782
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: have to be willing to play the long game right

783
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: and the short term. Again, because we went into this

784
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 4: of like something for everybody, we are prepared that there's

785
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: gonna be positive negative right feedback on it, So we're

786
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: not even so worried about Oh, there's negative feedback because

787
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: you know what, there's gonna be positive feedback as well.

788
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 4: And we know the current social verse, right, almost anything

789
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 4: you do, it's gonna have a negative tone to it. Right.

790
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: There is a cure for everything, right, it is what

791
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: it is.

792
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: So the hard part is don't get trapped in that

793
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: short term when there's gonna be all kinds of feedback,

794
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 4: good and bad. Right, But ultimately in the short and

795
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: mid term, if we did our job, it all it

796
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 4: simply means is any fan who wanted a uniform update,

797
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: which was eighty ninety percent of them, right, can find

798
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 4: one uniform out of the four and just go they listened,

799
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted. If we do that, regardless of

800
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: retail sales, or digital engagement, or video views or or

801
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 4: PR mentions, that was the whole mission. The fans wanted change.

802
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: The fans told us they wanted four very different things

803
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: that we had to solve for. So if they can

804
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: look at them and just go, y'all listened, y'all did it.

805
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 4: Thank you, Texans. We did our job.

806
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Do you have a definitive favorite? I know I do.

807
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: Are you? Are you guy picks your favorite child?

808
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: Pretty much? In La and once in Houston. One's definitely

809
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: a favorite. Okay, kidding audio a week. No, everybody's got

810
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: a favorite.

811
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 4: Everyone's got a favorite. So you know, again it's personal bias, right,

812
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: it's something for everybody. I because I'm into the arts

813
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 4: and I'm into bolder things that naturally leads me to

814
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: look at call it the battle Red Alternate and the

815
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: new color Rush because because they're just different, and we

816
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 4: definitely took some risks on them, between the designs, between

817
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: the helmets, leveraging the new NFL three helmet rule, right,

818
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 4: all those things that for me, being a little bit

819
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 4: more progressive in design and personal taste, I go to

820
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 4: those two and I'm like, WHOA all day?

821
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Right? Okay, all right, So one more for you, Doug.

822
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: We talked about h town.

823
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: So other than sports, give me a favorite or two

824
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: event or thing about Houston that you like to do

825
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: or love about the city, or something that's really gotten

826
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 3: a hold of you since you've moved here.

827
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: You know what, Like I said, between arts, music, heck,

828
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: all the urban parks we have, they take my new

829
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 4: little rescue dog out there for walks. Right, But you know,

830
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 4: I probably would say, you know, because it's most recent.

831
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: I love recency. I went to my first Houston rodeo, okay, right,

832
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: and as yes, someone who's from Philadelphia had never experienced

833
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 4: a rodeo before. It blew my mind.

834
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: It'll shock you a little bit.

835
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: It blew my mind from obviously the festival grounds, but

836
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: to then just the whole entertainment and all the programming.

837
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: And you know, again as someone who's not used to

838
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: the culture of like I don't know all appropriate terms

839
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: with the cattle round up, right, you win scholarships for

840
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: catching cattle, calf scramble, the calf scramble. There we go.

841
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: You got a mutton bust in right, Like these are

842
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 4: things culturally all new to me. So for me, that

843
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: was just an amazing experience of like, there's this whole

844
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: side of h town, right that we talk about music

845
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: and we talk about Bunn and Paul and Slim and

846
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: kicking Flip and others, and then this whole other side

847
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: that's rodeo and a little bit of western and timeless

848
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: tradition there all in the same place together and at

849
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: the rodeo co existing, right when you look at a

850
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 4: bun be night right, ye, all co existing. So to me,

851
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: most recently, that was probably my number one favorite experience

852
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 4: because it is something I've never never seen before and

853
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: it was just a moment after moment, I was like,

854
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: what are they? What are they doing now? So major

855
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: props to our friends over here at Energy at the Rodeo.

856
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: All right, very cool Tuesday. We look forward to it, Doug.

857
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: So the general public, what should they be expecting? I

858
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: know there's a gathering for some so tell us about that.

859
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so ten am. Launch on Am ten am, so

860
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 4: finally within five minutes everything will be out there to

861
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: the world. Right, So we're launched digitally at ten am,

862
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 4: which also means, hey, if you don't want to wait,

863
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: you can come to Energy Stadium and come to the

864
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: team shop ten am. We got you right, So be

865
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: that the store is actually going to be closed Saturday

866
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: end Monday to reset the entire store. Okay, so it's

867
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: going to look like from a merch wise let alone

868
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 4: just the uniforms, whole new store Tuesday morning, ten am.

869
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: That's kind of interesting. So fans will to get their

870
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 4: hands on it first, and obviously you know our our

871
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 4: dot com shop will have the new ones as well.

872
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: But if you got to have it right then Tename

873
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: is a place to be. Then, of course Tuesday night

874
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 4: six thirty start seven to three Music Hall. We have

875
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: an amazing lineup that we haven't announced yet, right four performers.

876
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 4: Each performer is going to highlight one of the new

877
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 4: uniforms and maybe be accompanied by a player or two

878
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 4: for each one of those uniforms. Will be a really

879
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: cool experience. It's really just a celebration. It's a moment

880
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: in our history, and who knows the next time we're

881
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: going to do this, So it's just a really great

882
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: party to celebrate. Every one's been part of it. And

883
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: at seven to one to three, yes, we you know,

884
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: we could invite everyone, but we're still stilly a little

885
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: pack in a couple thousand fans in there to have

886
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: a good time and party together.

887
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be live from there six to seven. Looking

888
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: forward to it. Doug, thanks a lot, Thank you.

889
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 2: JOm appreciate ten am Tuesday, Baby, that's when you can

890
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: get it. And I, boy, I had a chance to

891
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: Uh boy, I can't say that, can I.

892
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: I can't let these secrets out of the bag.

893
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: There's so many things that I want to tell you,

894
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: but I can't. Ten am Tuesday, team shop. That's when

895
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna be revealed, and it's gonna be I gotta admit,

896
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be awesome just to kind of like, all right,

897
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: here they are, everybody see them, everybody react to them.

898
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see what the reaction is gonna be.

899
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: For me.

900
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: It'll take like five minutes like okay, everybody good, everybody good,

901
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: all right, let's go play ball, because that's what's gonna mean.

902
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: Then two nights later to draft party and we're all good.

903
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: Way I look at it, but you know how I

904
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: look at things. I look at things in a football sense,

905
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: but I'm still curious. I'm still fan. I want to

906
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: see what they they end up looking like. But you know,

907
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: let's go. It's time to move on. But there has

908
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: been a lot of work done by a lot of

909
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: people in this thing. We appreciate Doug for stopping by

910
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: and giving us the background everything going on. And it's

911
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: gonna be really cool once those jerseys are fully revealed

912
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: and then the merch is available. That's when I'm getting excited.

913
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: When the merch becomes available, if there's anything on the

914
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: good old debit card, it's going to be plumped down

915
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: for some Texans gear for sure on Tuesday, as soon

916
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: as I can get over to the team store. I

917
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: might have to fight some people to get over there,

918
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: but I am going to do it. Okay, we get back,

919
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: We'll go around the NFL. There is a thirty visit

920
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: that's happening in the nation's capital that is really intriguing.

921
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: I'll explain what that means and what it is next

922
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: right here in Texans All Access.

923
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: What's happened, everybody?

924
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this Wednesday edition of Texas All Access

925
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: from Monday Texans Radio Studio.

926
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John.

927
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston in Texas's

928
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: go around in the NFL and start in Washington where

929
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: it's gonna get interesting.

930
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: Pick number two.

931
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: Now, a lot of people have penciled in well, they're

932
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: writing in Pennic quarterback. It's just a matter of what

933
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: quarterback's name is going to be at number two for

934
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders in.

935
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: This upcoming draft. Who will it be?

936
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: Because we know Chicago is gonna take Kayleb Williams unless

937
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: we get thrown a total curveball on draft night, and

938
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: I don't see that happening. Now, what can happen at two?

939
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: A lot of things. So the Commanders have taken a

940
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: kind of a different approach. They are having what is

941
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: being referred to as a mass thirty visit, and that

942
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: visit includes North Carolina quarterback Drake may LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels,

943
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: Washington quarterback Michael Pennix Junior, and Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy.

944
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: They are going to go to Top Golf for a

945
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: casual dinner and Nick Surg just get together. They'll have

946
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: twenty potential draftees in town and they'll all be at

947
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: the facility tomorrow. Now, I don't know how quite I

948
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: feel about that. Now I know how I feel about

949
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: the one higher they made a couple of days ago.

950
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: My man, Dave Gardy gonna be with them as the

951
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: director of Football Initiative there with the Commanders.

952
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: I love a man, Dave. He's gonna be awesome with them.

953
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: But bringing in all these prospects very interesting that they're

954
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: doing this and doing it this particular manner.

955
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: I mean, this has become kind of like thundered Home.

956
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, but they're gonna be bringing

957
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: in four potential quarterbacks.

958
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter said probably about.

959
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: A week ago that you don't even commanders fans go

960
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: get your commander's unis with jayde and Daniel's name on it.

961
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: Dan Jeremiah did a Copriis call today with media members

962
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: and he said, I don't know, you need to be

963
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: careful of that one, because they could potentially looking at

964
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: an offensive alignment in which they definitely need. Now they

965
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: need a quarterback too, there's no doubt about that. But

966
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: they're gonna take a quarterback. I mean, all of this

967
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: posturing and uh, you know, whatever they're doing, uh preening

968
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: and posturing, they're just gonna end up taking a quarterback.

969
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: And I think that's pretty clear. But I don't know,

970
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: maybe it's not. Maybe some people it's not, But I

971
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: think they're gonna end up taking a quarterback. You know,

972
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: the Texas didn't play any of that last year.

973
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: For the most part. They just kept it quiet and

974
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: nobody knew. And the thing was, is the silence really

975
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: is what drove people.

976
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: Well, the textans aren't talking about this, well, that must

977
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: mean this, well, that must mean this, well, that must

978
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 2: mean no, none of you anticipated it. The only person

979
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: that got close to Daniel Jeremiah when his final mock

980
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: draft he had the Texas drafting two and three. He

981
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: just had the order reversed. He had Will Anderson going

982
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: two when he had CJ. Stroud going three. And I

983
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: said it at the time, I remember seeing it. We're

984
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 2: talking it down to the studio before the draft that night,

985
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: and I said, he's got He's got it backwards, because

986
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: as if you let Stroud be on a board at three,

987
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: then you're gonna allow other teams to get involved in

988
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: a trade mix.

989
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: You gotta flip it around.

990
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: Take Stroud out of the mix, Limit teams that will

991
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: get involved with the Cardinals, limit how much you're gonna

992
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: have to give to them in a trade. Then make

993
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: the deal for Will. They did that, uh, and the

994
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: rest hopefully will end up being history down the road.

995
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll see how that kind of ends up

996
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: on the on the Texas side. But Jayden Daniels, Drake May,

997
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, Michael Pennix, those guys all in Washington at

998
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: the same time. It's been interesting kind of, you know,

999
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: sifting through some of the stuff that's going on with

1000
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: all these you know, smoke screens and who likes who

1001
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: and all this kind of stuff.

1002
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: One popped up today from Bob McGinn.

1003
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: He's not writing for Tyler Dunn's Go Along, and he

1004
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: talked about ad Ni Mitchell and apparently ad Ni Mitchell

1005
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: from Texas UH has Type one diabetes and Scouts have

1006
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: been not hammering him, but like, okay, somethings off, Like

1007
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: even some of the anonymous quotes of the Scouts are

1008
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: like sums off with this guy.

1009
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Like we don't I don't know. He can be bligerent,

1010
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: he can be difficult.

1011
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: Well then then come to find out a lot of

1012
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: those times happening when his blood sugar goes down. So

1013
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: it's kind of like mental health. Are teams willing to

1014
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: take a player, a really really good player like ad

1015
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Ni Mitchell even though he's got something.

1016
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: That is absolutely manageable. I'm Andrew Doherty.

1017
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: He absolutely crushes it and works every single day. He's

1018
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: been dealing with it since he was a kid. Now

1019
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: that they know what to do, they've got to make

1020
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: sure they monitor it and do those things. But NFL

1021
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 2: people have got people on people on people to help

1022
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 2: with those sort of things.

1023
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: So where's ad Ni Mitchell go? Does he fall? In

1024
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: this draft, and if he ends up falling to forty two,

1025
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: is he too good to pass up.

1026
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to watch this whole draft process unfold.

1027
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: Your textans sit at forty two and fifty nine today.

1028
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: I think it changes. I'm not sure which pick, but

1029
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 2: I think one of those picks changes.

1030
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: I hope it's not forty two. I want to get

1031
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: to them pick.

1032
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: And make it a pick as soon as possible, so

1033
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. A big thanks to Mark, A

1034
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: big thanks to all of you for listening. Big thanks

1035
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: to seeing your VP of Marketing, Communications and Ticketing Douglastic

1036
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: for joining us.

1037
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow everybody, and as always, go Texan