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Speaker 1: content out for you every single night. Now, we had

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Speaker 1: something happen in Major League Baseball a little while ago that,

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Speaker 1: again I've never seen that has big ramifications for the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and beyond, and not only that, I will tell

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Speaker 1: the team how to handle this post game, because things

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Speaker 1: are gonna get a little weird.

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Speaker 2: Good weird is good the most of the time.

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Speaker 1: Dodgers beat the Phillies tonight five nothing right, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell pitches great right, seven innings, shut out baseball.

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Speaker 1: He gets the first two outs of the seventh inning

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Speaker 1: and then walks the next two batters. Okay. Now at

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Speaker 1: this point, Dave Roberts wants to go to the bullpen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: running out of gas. He's up over one hundred pitches.

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Speaker 1: And you can see what Dave Roberts does is as

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Speaker 1: soon as Snell walks runners at first and second and

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Speaker 1: can is coming up, he makes a motion with his

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Speaker 1: hand talk, go talk to the mount to his infielders

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Speaker 1: come in by Alex Vessia, the reliever coming in the game,

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Speaker 1: more time to throw a couple more warm up pitches

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Speaker 1: than he comes into the game, so he goes talk

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Speaker 1: talk talk. The infielders make their way slowly to the

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Speaker 1: mount and they stand there. They know exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 1: They know exactly that, Okay Roberts is doing this. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna stand there for however long the homeplate on Pire

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Speaker 1: on Pire will get up and say, okay, break it up.

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Speaker 1: Then Dave Roberts will come out, make the move, Alex

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Speaker 1: VESSI will come into the game. Right. You see this

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Speaker 1: all the time, right, buy some time for the leave

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Speaker 1: it or throw another couple of pitches. So that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what happens. Right. The players come in, Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman,

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Speaker 1: they come and they stand there and Blake Snell standing

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Speaker 1: on the mount if you could tell he's probably not happy.

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Speaker 1: And Dave Roberts comes out to the mound and Alex

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Speaker 1: Vesia is on his way in from the bullpen. On

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Speaker 1: his way in. He's on the field, coming in from

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Speaker 1: the bullpen. Except something weird happens. Blake Snell tells Dave Roberts,

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Speaker 1: I'm not coming out of the game.

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Speaker 2: He pulls a full Jordan Belford.

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Speaker 1: And I've got that I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: And so Dave Roberts has a split decision to make

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Speaker 1: and he's got his starter saying he wants to stay

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Speaker 1: has been absolutely terrible over the past few months, one

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Speaker 1: of the worst bullpens in baseball, second most home runs

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Speaker 1: given up. It was just a night ago show, Hey

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Speaker 1: o Tani, five innings, no hitter. The bullpen comes in

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Speaker 1: one inning later, the lead is gone and win. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's bad, right, it's bad, bad, bad. So Dave Roberts

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have a ord fact, go out to talk

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Speaker 3: to him. Otto Kemp is duop.

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Speaker 2: Just as emotions as passion mute can tell how bad

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Speaker 3: Well, you know he knows what the visit is for.

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Speaker 3: It's the Bible of the time for Vessie to get

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Speaker 3: And this is not going to be a popular no

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it. Does this not have all the

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Speaker 3: If the flash past the world's harries against the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: and he did not want to come.

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Speaker 4: Out, how about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in this situation, he can't. Bessie was already headed

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Speaker 2: To play left field.

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Speaker 4: It was okraty pats left field.

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Speaker 3: I thank everybody kind of reading the room right here,

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Speaker 3: Blake Snell knowing that this team needs this, Dave Roberts

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Speaker 3: looking his pitcher in the eye and saying, you got it.

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Speaker 1: So that Dodgers TV on the call all right now,

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Speaker 1: maybe a little more giggly than I would have thought,

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Speaker 1: given the Yeah, they like more tens in our studio

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Speaker 1: there's many things to say coming off this right many,

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Speaker 1: but the first thing I'm gonna say is this. This

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Speaker 1: is this is where Blake Snell has to at the

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Speaker 1: is that to say, hey, Kevin Cash, you did this

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty we win in the World Series. You

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Speaker 1: leave me in for that? Where's my ring, Kevin? I

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Speaker 1: gotta watch rookie Betts have a ring because I don't

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Speaker 1: have a ring. Big moment. Okay, the first of part,

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Speaker 1: because this is both a great and terrible moment for

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. The great part of it is this, you

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Speaker 1: Snell is a Dodger man missed a lot of the

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Speaker 1: season injured. You have a lot of talent starting pitches,

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Speaker 1: right when with the Amamoto and Kersshaw and Glass, now

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Speaker 1: all these, Blake Snell is your game one starter. Right.

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Speaker 1: He grabbed the crowd, he grabbed the team, He grabbed

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Speaker 1: He's got exact he's got the guts and the and

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Speaker 1: and the and the Cojones to say, hey, I'm staying

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Speaker 1: because that's exactly what he did. When when when Roberts

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Speaker 1: no no, and he tells Dave Roberts, I got it.

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Speaker 1: I got this, And Roberts has a split decision to

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Speaker 1: I risk upset him coming out going to a bullpen

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Speaker 1: and the crowd loves it, the loves it. I leave

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell in And it turns out great because Blake

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Speaker 1: Snell gets OUTO kept to strike out swinging. He comes

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Speaker 1: off the field. They're playing the lights and there's fireworks

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Speaker 1: and Rady Newman's playing and Dave Roberts is the first

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Speaker 1: guy out. Yeah, I did it. My decision was right.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm taking credit for this decision right here. So

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Speaker 1: that's all the good stuff. Man, that's all the good

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Speaker 1: But here's the other part of it. Alex Vessia does

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Speaker 1: you called for me too early. He's shaking his head,

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Speaker 1: not happy walking back to the bullpen. Because here's this

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Speaker 1: but the terrible part is now how pisses the bullpen

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Speaker 1: You've taken your starting pitcher's side over the bullpen. You've

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Speaker 1: embarrassed me, you're embarrassing the bullpen. How does this play

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Speaker 1: out after the game? Right? Like, I'll tell you exactly

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Speaker 1: But how does this play out now? Because now you've

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Speaker 1: did that before. As much as I told Roberts, I'm

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Speaker 1: not coming out, I never did that. Actually on the field,

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Speaker 1: you've set a precedent that something like this can happen again,

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Speaker 1: I got this. You embarrassed your bullpen there. That's something

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Speaker 6: just getting to the podium now. But it's just the

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Speaker 6: back to Dave Roberts, I'm not coming out. Whatever whatever

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Speaker 6: the case may be, how whatever the terminology he uses.

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Speaker 6: We've had that, we've had the stare into the dugout

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Speaker 6: that I'm gonna finish this. We've never had Dave get

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Speaker 6: on the field, at least to my thinking. And we

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Speaker 6: and being here in La plenty plenty of experience watching

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Speaker 6: pitching changes in moments that a lot of folks lament

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Speaker 6: right where Dave Roberts guys are having great starts, no

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Speaker 6: hit starts, whatever, and the egos plays the percentages.

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Speaker 2: Here's someone it's like someone.

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Speaker 6: Poured a cup of water over the computer to blow

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Speaker 6: it up, and it's like, all right, all right, now.

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna do?

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Speaker 6: So so he goes out and the hard part is,

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Speaker 6: and we talk about it a lot on the show

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Speaker 6: and have for our time here the optics of a situation.

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Speaker 6: If Bessia never gets through that door and onto the field,

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Speaker 6: then it doesn't matter, and he can be pissed and

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Speaker 6: they everybody in the bullpen can be mad, but you

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Speaker 6: don't have the optic of him walking out and having

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Speaker 6: to do the however many yard walk of shame because

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Speaker 6: he's been put back.

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Speaker 2: Now, on some level.

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Speaker 6: The competitive i mean, the competitor in him wants to

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Speaker 6: and move to the eighth. But there's gonna be that

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Speaker 6: real moment of wow, Okay, now he doesn't trust that

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Speaker 6: He's got left. Eighty six you had Mark Hill and

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Speaker 6: Joel Skinner. Okay, all right, that was eighty five. Eighty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you still have Fisk. He's the throughput on all of this.

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Speaker 1: How about that for a lineup? But yeah, from Blake Snell,

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Speaker 1: in a bit. But if you're Dave Roberts, this is

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Speaker 6: He was supposed the metrics said, he was supposed to

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Speaker 1: He's got to come out and say, hey, I made

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Speaker 1: And if you got bad, I would say, hey, I

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Speaker 1: of you guys have him getting it done and a

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Speaker 1: little bit of tough love might not be the worst

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Speaker 1: thing for the Dodger bullpen, which is, again we talked

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Speaker 1: If the Dodgers bullpen is good, they're winning the World Series.

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Speaker 1: If the Dodgers bullpens thinks they're out the first round.

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Speaker 1: They play.

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Speaker 2: It's just what a smart manager does. It's called playing

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't. You can't pretend that it was

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Speaker 1: that split decision. I trusted him to get the out.

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Speaker 1: That's all it is. So if you don't like it,

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Speaker 2: Now you need all the relievers.

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Speaker 6: We've talked about it, and you're gonna have a couple

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Speaker 6: The postseason makes strange bedfellows of that regard. But this

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Speaker 6: Because that strikeout Jason was number twelve of the night.

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Speaker 1: Big night, big night exit. How about a Fresco exit? Swallow,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like you know, people came over,

432
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Speaker 1: haven't heard from in weeks and looking at me, so skinny,

433
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Speaker 1: Oh what's he doing. I'm just sitting in the corner crying.

434
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: But just mentally I was like I met a shot. Yeah,

435
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: I was like shot. Yeah. I mean I mean the

436
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: the you know after that, like the girls I did

437
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: after that were like complete and total opposites of her.

438
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: That hurts you, like the other way, Yeah, that'll go

439
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: the other way, you know.

440
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Speaker 6: I go back to the old David Letterman quote, remember

441
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 6: when he had a heart issue and was gone, Yeah,

442
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 6: and then he came back to the show and yeah,

443
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 6: well people people were asking me how I'm doing, and

444
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 6: he said, well, you know, they say, what doesn't kill

445
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 6: you makes you stronger.

446
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Speaker 2: He goes, that's categorically untrue.

447
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 6: Whatever doesn't kill you messes your up, messes you up,

448
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 6: and you're lucky to ever get it back together again.

449
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 2: Same thing with a breakup. It takes a piece of

450
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: you away. Yeah, but I think you really so you

451
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: either grow over all the way, but it changes your perspective. Yes,

452
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: it's really I.

453
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Speaker 1: Think everybody needs to go through a bad breakup to

454
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Speaker 1: the point where not not to go through a bad relationship,

455
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: but a breakup where hey, I get what it means

456
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: to love and lose. Sure, you know, because that that

457
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: sets you up for life, right, It sets you up

458
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: for that.

459
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Speaker 6: Jobs, the tough class that kicks your ass. I mean,

460
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Speaker 6: they're part of that's growing pains.

461
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Speaker 1: Man, I would have done better in this class, but

462
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: she broke up with me, and I'm really really mad. Possible,

463
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm mad now, I'm just so mad.

464
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Speaker 6: Gotta have the professor who's retiring that says, I really

465
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 6: don't care what's I'm done. As soon as these grains

466
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 6: are in, I'm out of here and I'm off to

467
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Speaker 6: my vacation home in the Alps.

468
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Speaker 2: Leave me alone.

469
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Speaker 1: No, I think it helps you. It builds character. It

470
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,360
Speaker 1: gets you used to what relationships like. Cause like all

471
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: the you know when people say stuff like, oh you know,

472
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Speaker 1: I'm not dating now, I'm not dating serious for a while,

473
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything like Okay, I understand that, but

474
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: you need to date to really kind of understand what

475
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Speaker 1: you're looking for and understand that. You know, when you

476
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Speaker 1: go through a breakup and yeah, it hurts you emotionally, Okay,

477
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: what did you learn from it?

478
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 3: What?

479
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Speaker 1: What does this take? Is this the type of person

480
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: you want to be with? You understand what happened, You

481
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Speaker 1: understand the signs and things that go on, like you

482
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Speaker 1: need you need reps, right, like you need you need

483
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Speaker 1: dates to understand that this is what I'm looking for,

484
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: what I want in life, right, So you kind of

485
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Speaker 1: need that. So I was all the stuff that that

486
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Speaker 1: I went through in my life. Your relationships I had,

487
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: and and and breakups and relationships that lasted long. I

488
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: learned a lot from like I, you know, I I

489
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: don't know if I realized it at the time, but

490
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from that over the over the

491
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Speaker 1: course of my life.

492
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Speaker 6: And then you took some time to heal, yea taking time.

493
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Speaker 6: By the way, he's out again.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah he's not gonna play again. Mess you up now.

495
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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you because this is an

496
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Speaker 1: appreciation moment for a team that's zero and two in

497
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Speaker 1: the NFL.

498
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: That is streaking towards ten.

499
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and yes it is the Bears.

500
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: Your team is such a beautiful message. It's it's awesome,

501
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: especially after today. We're going to hear from Ben Johnson

502
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Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes of what he had to say.

503
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Speaker 1: There has been no more entertaining team the first two

504
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: weeks than the Bears. They really have. They really have

505
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Speaker 1: taken all the talk. We don't care about two and

506
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: zero teams. They're boring some O and two teams. Yeah,

507
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: they give a little bit of conversation, but the Bears

508
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: from the beginning of the season till now, no one's

509
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: been better and I mean better for us to talk

510
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: about and for fans to laugh at and think about,

511
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: because they're not just fun in losing, they're fun off

512
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Speaker 1: the field. Like they go Week one, Caleb Williams, you

513
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: knew start with Ben Johnson and they give away a

514
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Speaker 1: game they led by eleven points in the second half,

515
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Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson makes a horrendous decision on a kickoff

516
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Speaker 1: that makes me wonder if he's even got it in

517
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Speaker 1: him to be a head coach in the NFL. They

518
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Speaker 1: follow that up with getting absolutely pasted by Ben Johnson's

519
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: former team who ran the score up on him and

520
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Speaker 1: didn't really deny it after the game because they were

521
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Speaker 1: mad he went to go be the head coach of

522
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Speaker 1: the Bears. What did Ben Johnson have to say? No,

523
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Speaker 1: they didn't run the score up me. No, they did

524
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Speaker 1: do it.

525
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Speaker 2: Just some people that need some healing. Bakup.

526
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Speaker 1: I can see the tire guards over your Chicago Bears pullover.

527
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: I can see the tire tracks of what the line, Hey,

528
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: there's tears on my Cutler jersey. It's great, okay, but

529
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Speaker 1: now here they are going into it next week, and

530
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Speaker 1: now we get more of the beautiful mess of the

531
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Speaker 1: Bears because Ben Johnson is squarely in the middle and

532
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Speaker 1: the Bears of the biggest debate and drama going on

533
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Speaker 1: in football, which really shouldn't because we've told you this

534
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady thing is a load of crap. This is

535
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Speaker 1: lazy journalists who want to pretend that, hey, Tom Brady

536
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Speaker 1: owning the Raiders and being in on some production meetings

537
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Speaker 1: with Fox, he's giving the Raiders an unfair advantage. First

538
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: of all, Raiders are rowing two. Secondly, these have been

539
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: going on forever coaches don't go into these meetings giving

540
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: away inside information. It's stupid. It's a stupid thing. And oh,

541
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Speaker 1: by the way, we said this last couple of nights,

542
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Speaker 1: for all the big TV shows that picked up today,

543
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Speaker 1: you're welcome send a check to us here at Fox

544
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. So the Bears find themselves in the middle

545
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Speaker 1: of this because Bears play the Cowboys Sunday. Tom Brady

546
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Speaker 1: is doing the Bears Cowboys game. The week after. What

547
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Speaker 1: do the Bears do? They play the Raiders, the team

548
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady owns, will probably be on a headset during

549
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Speaker 1: this game like he was on Monday night. So now

550
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's in the middle of this controversy. And here's

551
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Speaker 1: him from earlier today weighing in on how he doesn't

552
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Speaker 1: feel that he's doing anything that's giving the Bears any

553
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Speaker 1: sort of or giving the Cowboys any sort of or

554
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Speaker 1: the Raiders any sort of advantage by talking to Brady

555
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Speaker 1: during a pre show meeting or the meetings they have

556
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Speaker 1: with the broadcasting team going into the game.

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Speaker 8: I've been careful everything I've said since the season starts.

558
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Speaker 8: I've been in pure coach speak mode started, So for me,

559
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Speaker 8: it's just business as usual. I'm just fine. I like

560
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Speaker 8: Tom and we have a really good relationship.

561
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Speaker 1: So all right, First of all, does that sound like

562
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Speaker 1: can laughter?

563
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Speaker 6: Hey, that's straight off to CBS studios. Here in Los Angeles.

564
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Speaker 1: People laugh enough, so we're gonna add some laughter when

565
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: we put this out online for everybody. Oh, that's great,

566
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: that's great.

567
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Speaker 6: I really wish you would have come back with Well,

568
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 6: you know, you saw how it worked for the Raiders

569
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 6: when Gino threw the ball out of bounds, out of

570
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 6: fourth down plane threw it away. I mean, clearly that's

571
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Speaker 6: getting him over. By the way, he doesn't actually have

572
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Speaker 6: a microphone with the headset in the booth when ye

573
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: he was like he was in a listening library. Yeah,

574
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 6: hanging out and just and but for Ben Jonas, he

575
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 6: presses a button and it buzzes. The coach has to

576
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 6: wear a buzzer on his chest and it buzzes whoever

577
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Speaker 6: he wants to talk to.

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Speaker 1: Well, there it is. Brady wants a tough Why you're

579
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: in trouble? What is it? You see the coaches do

580
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: that on the sideline. That's Brady buzzing the guys to

581
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Speaker 1: talk to him.

582
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean we've talked about this the last

583
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Speaker 2: couple of days.

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Speaker 6: You can download the podcast for the full arguments and

585
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 6: discussion of this entire nonsensical thing.

586
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Speaker 2: And I get it.

587
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Speaker 6: Some folks want to be the rulers of all things radio,

588
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 6: television and how business is supposed to be, and they

589
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 6: think they're the invisible hand. You're not, uh in this

590
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 6: particular case, if if Brady is that big an issue,

591
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 6: would they ever do any of these meetings? Because any

592
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 6: one of these people from Troy Aikman to insert Collinsworth

593
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 6: all the way down, ex players and the broadcasters themselves

594
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 6: could have gone, boy, that was really juicy.

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Speaker 2: Who do I tell?

596
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

597
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we would have gotten a lot of this again.

598
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Speaker 1: I would call Kevin Burkhart and go, dude, you work

599
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: for the Mets. I'm a Mets fan. Tell me some

600
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: stuff I can. I can tell the Jets, like I mean,

601
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Speaker 1: what people would do that They talk. They'd call Greg Olsen,

602
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: they'd call anybody and say, hey, what do you think? Man?

603
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like you're saying, hey, Tommy, here's

604
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 6: my laminated list of the secret It's like the secret

605
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 6: sauce and recipes you have at a restaurant. It's like

606
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Speaker 6: here's the trick plays we're gonna call, but don't say anything.

607
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Speaker 2: But you not worried.

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen was a Panther his entire career with hey,

609
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: I got a soft fid. Hey, I'll tell the Panthers

610
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: what's going on? I mean, really, but Brady, just because again,

611
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Speaker 1: journalists are lazy. No greg Olsen expert. I mean, come on,

612
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Speaker 1: I out I gotten Jameson by the end, I got

613
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's back on this, right, I got Ben Jonson

614
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: back so far? Okay, okay, But then this is where

615
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson says, Hey, we're going to keep the Bears

616
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Speaker 1: the number one story in the NFL through the first

617
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Speaker 1: two weeks because now I'm going to say this, when

618
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Speaker 1: it comes to what I feel about my team and

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Speaker 1: how we're preparing for games every Sunday, I think.

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Speaker 8: Our practice habits are are yet to reflect a championship

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Speaker 8: caliber team.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm going to ask you three questions. Mike

623
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Speaker 1: Carmenka all right now, he answers you should yes, okay,

624
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Speaker 1: So obviously players are who they are, right, but players

625
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: are who they Yeah? Sure, sure, Now I ask you this.

626
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Speaker 1: Who was the head coach of the Chicago Bears. I

627
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: think it's Ben Johnson very good, one for one, very good. Okay,

628
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: number two, number two, who runs all the practices of

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, probably Ben Johnson. Very good, two for two,

630
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Speaker 1: very very coach heard, very good. Yes, what's off side?

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson? Well it's I kind of know when you

632
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Speaker 1: see uh so knowing those two questions.

633
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too.

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00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: Who has the most influence on how a team practices? Especially? Sorry,

635
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: let me who has the most influence on how the

636
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Bears practice? Okay, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson very good, very good,

637
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, very good.

638
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: I got the hat trick. I'm a wizard.

639
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is sitting here and saying, yeah, hey, not

640
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: my fault, we're not practicing this. Whoa dude. I get

641
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: the guys are who they are, But you're taking over

642
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: a team. You've come in with a lot of power.

643
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: You're not just some dude that got the gig and

644
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: the players like, yeah, we're gonna play this out now.

645
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: You got a big contract, you're coming you have a

646
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: lot of sway here, and you're coming out of say

647
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: we're not practicing that way. That's on you, man. You

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Speaker 1: can't just sit here and say I'm only the head coach.

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Speaker 1: You're the head coach. You got paid a lot of cash,

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Speaker 1: you waited a whole year to take this job, you

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Speaker 1: wanted this job with this quarterback. I'm sorry, this is

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Speaker 1: your This is on you, man. You're the guy. You're

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Speaker 1: the head coach. So what I see this is I go,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, now he's become Hey, I'm only the

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Speaker 1: head coach. What do you really expect me to do? See?

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Speaker 2: I didn't take it that way again.

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Speaker 1: You are such a beautiful mess, and I thank you

658
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Speaker 1: for being this mess.

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Speaker 6: Oh and it's gonna be there all season long because

660
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 6: this is the low hanging fruit now for everybody to

661
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Speaker 6: kind of check in occasionally on the Bears and then

662
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Speaker 6: have some grandiose thoughts. For us, it's, you know, my

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Speaker 6: daily life, you know, the guy here at Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 6: with my ties to Chicago and my half a life

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Speaker 6: there is that I live and breathe this fun, fun

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Speaker 6: every every day. And this Ben Johnson comment to me,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna take it for the positive spin of this

668
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 6: is what we're building you. Okay, we're not there yet, right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's a work in progress and coming from

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Speaker 6: what Eberflusa had and the red Kind.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, but.

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Speaker 2: Look, look, if you're gonna talk about your guy building

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Speaker 2: a culture, I can do the same damn thing. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I've also said it takes a long time. Apparently it

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Speaker 1: takes a long time to build a culture.

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Speaker 6: Well, it takes a little bit longer, right, because you're

677
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Speaker 6: coming back from a lot of guys that were holdovers

678
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Speaker 6: from an Eberflu's run operation a year ago that was

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Speaker 6: characterized as being pretty loose and the players ran everything,

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Speaker 6: and that he got run over and steamrolled and off

681
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Speaker 6: he went. Remember his big moment in the Hard Knocks

682
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Speaker 6: was getting his beard trimmed and his hair done. Okay,

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Speaker 6: that was the most interesting thing the damn man said

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Speaker 6: the entire time.

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Speaker 1: I got no bricks, I got no wheelbarrow, I got

686
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Speaker 1: no plans, I got no cement to port. I can't

687
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Speaker 1: build a culture if you don't give me the things

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Speaker 1: a build with.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so now he's coming in with that. Ryan Poles

690
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Speaker 6: has been empowered. Here's your extension for what I have

691
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Speaker 6: no idea winning the off season and hiring Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 6: You got Ben Johnson to sign a contract, damn it.

693
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Speaker 6: Here's your extra years. But Rome wasn't built in the day.

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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams, I think is going to be fine. You've

695
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Speaker 6: got pieces in place and you're building. But what I

696
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 6: think it's also the referendus on what's in that locker room,

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Speaker 6: but also a reminder everybody like you don't go from

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Speaker 6: being as bad as they were to a championship right away.

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Speaker 6: Right There's there's a building process that goes through in

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Speaker 6: two games in and with what they've had this offseason

701
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Speaker 6: and into where they are.

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Speaker 2: That it's not fully formed. And I think that was

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Speaker 2: kind of the defiant.

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Speaker 6: Hey, we need to be better, we need to clean up,

705
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Speaker 6: we need to cross the t's dot, the i's, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: And he's making that statement. I don't think it's ah,

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Speaker 6: we sucking. Our guys are a bunch of slapjacks over

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Speaker 6: in the lot.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame me. I didn't do it.

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Speaker 4: Wow, it's going full cross Wow, the crusty.

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Speaker 1: Of the I didn't do it.

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Speaker 6: I think he's trying to say, I'm imposing my will,

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Speaker 6: but it takes time.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay again, you've come in with that cache learning process,

715
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Speaker 1: come in with that cachet. If anything, you're losing it

716
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Speaker 1: because the team wonders, do you know you're doing when

717
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Speaker 1: you can golf? You know?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, that was terrible and no no, there's no

719
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Speaker 6: getting around that.

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Speaker 2: That was awful.

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Speaker 1: Did you really prepare us because we lost by sixty

722
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Speaker 1: to the Lions? Man, you really did you game?

723
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Did he hire? Dennis Allen was at his calf.

724
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Speaker 6: Because through two games that defense has been toothless and

725
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Speaker 6: now you lose your best player for the year to

726
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Speaker 6: go roin injury. So bet the over fifty plus Caleb

727
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Speaker 6: Williams and Dak Prescott. Top five quarterbacks for Fantasy this week,

728
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Speaker 6: Exit Out Bout a Fresco Exit Swollen Dome. Jason Smith

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Speaker 6: Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: Catch Cambo. If one team wins a championship this year,

731
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Speaker 1: I should get a ring because an idea I've had

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Speaker 1: for the past eighteen months is something they're considering. Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: It's Next, Jason and Mike Fox.

734
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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

735
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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific on Fox Sports Rate and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best

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Speaker 2: friend Mike Harmon. So again, big drama tonight, biggest trending

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00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: topic in sports. Blake Snell, who told Dave Roberts go

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Speaker 2: back in the dugout when Dave Roberts wanted to take

741
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Speaker 2: him out in the seventh inning. Yeah, I told him

742
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Speaker 2: to beat it.

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Speaker 1: Alex Vessi, a reliever was already on the field, walk

744
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Speaker 1: back to the bullpen, not happy. I've never seen that

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00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: before in baseball where the pitching change was happening. Blake

746
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Speaker 1: Snell said no, and Dave Roberts went back into the dugout.

747
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Speaker 2: My man broke the seal coming through the gate.

748
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Speaker 1: We promised we'd bring you. What Blake Snell said following

749
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Speaker 1: the game about it. Here he is right here talking

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Speaker 1: about what happened just a couple moments ago.

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Speaker 9: That seventh inning.

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Speaker 1: It was art.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, two strikes or the two ounce and then the

754
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Speaker 9: two walks kind of with that mound visit for you

755
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 9: to end on that strike out, obviously you wanted it.

756
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Speaker 9: Can you just describe kind of what you were feeling

757
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Speaker 9: in that moment, wanting to close out inning out?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, two guys, is that you know if

759
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 10: I get ahead, and then it's they usually swing a lot,

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Speaker 10: and I was going for the strikeout instead of just

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Speaker 10: attacking his own, and you know, seeing seeing.

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Speaker 3: What would happen.

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Speaker 10: I know both of them really well. I mean I've

764
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 10: grew up playing against Kepler Uh and the and the

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Speaker 10: miners all the way through, so no him very well

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Speaker 10: and cassing as I've facing my ton as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: I just got a little out of it and wasn't

768
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Speaker 10: executing pitches and they weren't close enough to get swings,

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Speaker 10: and then I was able to reset get.

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Speaker 1: In the zone again. What did I say? I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much he wanted to face those two guys.

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Speaker 1: I was more confident with auto camp and that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what happens. Look look at me, I'm look at pitching.

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Speaker 2: Comes a little bit well. I mean it goes back

775
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Speaker 2: to what we did yesterday with the Naturally, you gotta

776
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: listen to the whole show.

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Speaker 6: Go find the podcast wherever you get your audio, and

778
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 6: of course all of what we talked about tonight. Once

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00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 6: the show's over, Patrick and Alex and the team will

780
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Speaker 6: have it up. Thanks fellas for making to sound so

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Speaker 6: pretty this evening. Justin h working remotely with us. All

782
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 6: that to say, Jason, I mean he talked about it

783
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Speaker 6: is like I didn't just go after them, all right,

784
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Speaker 6: So a little bit of regret there, Yeah, question got

785
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Speaker 6: a little bit. Uh could have just said, hey, what like,

786
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Speaker 6: what the hell happened there? Walks the doubt's the walks

787
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Speaker 6: that that's tri just what looked like some confusion and

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00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 6: Dave Roberts sent back to the dugout what happened?

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Now. The other big thing from tonight is this, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure that if the Dodgers win the World Series,

792
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Speaker 1: I should get a World Series right.

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Speaker 2: You're lobbying for a ring here. One.

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Speaker 1: We should get the rings for the Rams because we

795
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: got Sean McVeigh hired.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still mad about that. I mean, it's been

797
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 6: a lot of years at this point. There's more diamonds

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Speaker 6: that should be coming on it.

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Speaker 1: We we should get it. We should get a ring

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Speaker 1: for that. If the Lakers win the title with Luca,

801
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: we should get a ring for that, cause you know

802
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: how much JJ Reddick hates me. Oh yeah, uh and

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Speaker 1: we we clear.

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Speaker 6: That helps it burn? Yeah, no, that'll fuel them through

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00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 6: the season.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think I I could get to the point

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Speaker 1: where I could say, hey, the Dodgers would owe me

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Speaker 1: a ring. But here we are the last eighteen months.

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Speaker 1: What have I said for sho Heyo Tani. He should close, right,

810
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: He'll extend his career as a pitcher. I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: already had two bad elbow injuries. I know that he's

812
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Speaker 1: come back. He's pitching strong right now. But close, that's

813
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: what you should do. What do we get today Shoeo

814
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: Tani telling reporters from Japan that, hey, he'd be open

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Speaker 1: to playing the outfield in the playoffs if it meant

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Speaker 1: that they could bring him in in relief, because then

817
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to worry about losing the place in

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Speaker 1: the batting order. It would be better. I'll play the

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Speaker 1: outfitlo he played the outfiel in Japan was pretty good.

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00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: Hasn't played the outfield in a few years. Can't be

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Speaker 1: any worse than ta Oscar Hernandez. And when you're not

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Speaker 1: a defensive team, when you're playing Mookie Bets in the

823
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: infield and Harry is out, you're not built on defense, right,

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Speaker 1: So I think Otani would be okay. But all of

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00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, maybe Otani listens maybe the Dodgers. Listen, Dave

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Speaker 1: Roberts says, hey, we'll think about it. I mean, doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like it's something atop of mine right now. But

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Speaker 1: Otani playing the outfield, so he could come in in relief,

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Speaker 1: and you know that would probably be late in a

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Speaker 1: game to close or to come in to face the

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Speaker 1: heart of the order in the seventh inning and then

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Speaker 1: go back to the outfield. Yeah. So if the Dodgers

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00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: use this track, they win the World Series. Rings, man,

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00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: we should get rings. For eighteen months we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about this ring.

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Speaker 2: Really did building it up.

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Speaker 6: I've got a couple of designs that I've put together

838
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Speaker 6: on mockups.

839
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Speaker 2: For what my ring should look like.

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00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 6: That extra crown over the top, really an ornate looking

841
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 6: thing that maybe a bit ostentatious but takes us to

842
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 6: the next level. But for show a Otani, right, and

843
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 6: for the rest of the Dodger staff. Right early in

844
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 6: the year, it was a lot of do you have

845
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 6: enough starters? We have plenty of starters now, yeah, So

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00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 6: now it's how do you deploy those guys because you're

847
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 6: also now managing whatever hurt feelings you've got for Vesia

848
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 6: Mark Pryor and the bitching staff as related to the bullpen.

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Speaker 6: But show A or Kershaw or whoever it's gotta be,

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Speaker 6: uh Emachan. I mean, you got a bunch of guys

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Speaker 6: that you're gonna be pulling the strings with. But show

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00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: hey with the closer mentality.

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Speaker 1: Think about that. I mean he did it to Mike Trout. Yeah, no,

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00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: one hundred percent got it. Look last inning of the

855
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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic. I mean, like, it makes sense. And

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Speaker 1: if I thought it would hurt the Dodgers defensively, I

857
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, that's difficult. But you know, look, defense

858
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: is clearly very low on the Dodgers' list of priorities.

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Speaker 2: So what's just funny coming out of last year where yeah,

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Speaker 2: he threw up on themselves, But that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, really, it would make sense because it

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00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: also takes care of the Dodgers' biggest problem, which we

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Speaker 1: talked about with Blake Snell. I'm not coming out of

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Speaker 1: the game because the bullpen's terrible. Now you have Otani

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Speaker 1: at least strengthening the back end of the bullpen, and

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he could pitch a couple of innings. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's got to come in and pitch

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Speaker 1: just one and he don't have to bring him into

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Speaker 1: close every night. But hey, we're in trouble winning this

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Speaker 1: game five to three and the seventh inning. Otani could

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Speaker 1: come in and pitch the seventh, eighth and ninth or

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Speaker 1: the eighth and the ninth inning. He can do that.

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Speaker 1: It would solve a huge issue for the Dodger.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and in his appearances this year, he had two

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Speaker 6: bad outings, one against the Rockies, one against the aforementioned

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Speaker 6: Angels with Mike Trout and company. Otherwise he's been pretty

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Speaker 6: solid and consistent throughout the years. So the opportunity presents

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Speaker 6: itself for Dave Robertson.

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Speaker 1: Rings, Harmon ring, we get rings for this idea?

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Speaker 2: We got bad idea and pots delt to the front

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Speaker 2: of the rotation.

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Speaker 6: Let's rings, buddy, size up, Tad, Come on? Can I

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Speaker 6: get brass knuckles? Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome?

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