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Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, next flowing down the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: He's Hanging with the Boys, presented by Windstuff Where Flavor

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Speaker 3: gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels,

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Speaker 3: Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 4: Tuesday call us Victory Tuesday. Long Week, Nate, that's next week.

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Speaker 1: That's next week. We gotta tell you a funny story

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Speaker 4: Look alive at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Fort cit at

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Speaker 4: the Star, Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 1: We're man.

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Speaker 4: It is windy, cloudy, sixty six degrees, feels like fifty five.

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Speaker 4: The high was seventy three. The load of night is fifty.

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Speaker 5: He is Nate, This is Kurt.

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Speaker 6: Two pump dangs, three pups will get you a fly

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Speaker 6: that's shinning. Gross in the back. It's Chrispy and keeping

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Speaker 1: Wei yes, yes.

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Speaker 5: We want to hear from you today.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully we get to wear those jerseys before the end

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Speaker 4: of the year, because Nate said he wasn't wearing his

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Speaker 4: until we win a game.

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Speaker 5: So next week, next week, okay.

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Speaker 4: We had to tell you all today, tell you all

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Speaker 4: funny story while we wait on some callers all day yesterday,

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Speaker 4: Nate was like, we got an extra show this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why. I kept thinking we got an extra.

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Speaker 4: Day because we got we got we got a Monday

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Speaker 4: game next week, so we actually have one less show

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Speaker 4: next week. But he was thinking that we were getting

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Speaker 4: one added to this week. So after the show and

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Speaker 4: walking down the hall, we finally had to say, Nate, we.

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Speaker 6: Don't have an extra show unless you plan on coming

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Speaker 6: here Saturday and doing the show.

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Speaker 1: On the man. I just you know, I get stuck sometimes.

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Speaker 5: You were saying it all we got extra show. We

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Speaker 5: were standing on it.

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Speaker 4: We standing on it that show. You know you love

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Speaker 4: your job when you just want.

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Speaker 1: To work an extra day. No, No, I just you

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Speaker 1: know because I wanted to move.

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Speaker 7: I had already my mind moved the defense to third,

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Speaker 7: so I couldn't get It's like.

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Speaker 5: I'm avoided watching all of that defense.

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Speaker 4: Hey, he didn't lie either, He gave up on film.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 4: Look last week he was on for three days. He

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Speaker 4: was in his iPad. Today's is like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: nothing to look at hem.

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Speaker 7: Because I'm I like watching Good on Good and I

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Speaker 7: thought our offense would perform a little better than it

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Speaker 7: did because they had a good defense.

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Speaker 1: I like Good on Good.

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Speaker 7: We all do so, And that's what kind of bothered

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Speaker 7: me when I'm like, Wow, the more I watch your defense,

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Speaker 7: that's a curse.

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Speaker 1: Ain't that a.

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Speaker 7: Curse to like something but understand the integral parts of it?

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Speaker 1: And you're looking.

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Speaker 6: Like oh yeah, yeah, And the.

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Speaker 5: More you watch it, the more like it's confirming more

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Speaker 5: the things that you think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like last night when you hear the

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Speaker 4: showing up again, it's really cool that we're playing the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs on Thanksgiving. Yeah, And when you really watch the Chiefs,

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Speaker 7: They had and they had everybody back for Washington. Yeah, Garytarian,

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Speaker 7: I might want to get your turkey eating earlier.

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Speaker 5: They might not your stomach might not be appetizing after.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Kansas City's going to eat on things giving.

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Speaker 4: The right there a little bit of the replay. All right,

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Speaker 4: we got one call on the phone. Let's uh, let's

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Speaker 4: get to it. Who we got, Chris, We got Randy

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Speaker 4: in Kansas Randy?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Randy?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 8: Fellas? Thanks for taking my call, Sir Nate. You take

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Speaker 8: me back to the days when this team was good.

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Speaker 8: I love listening to you and your tapes. Appreciate you, guys.

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Speaker 8: I just want to ask about what Shoddy said in

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Speaker 8: his press confidence about the changes that will be coming.

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Speaker 8: Do we feel like this culture is actually changing and

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Speaker 8: that he is getting us on the right path? What

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Speaker 8: I'll hang up and listen.

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Speaker 7: Thank you you first, what I believe change is coming

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Speaker 7: and and it is just whenever there're change for the better,

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Speaker 7: that means something was bad and we and it started

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna take time.

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Speaker 7: It's gonna take more than the six months Jesse has

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Speaker 7: put on this man life.

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Speaker 1: So just give it a year or two Jesse.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there are changes are coming and within the

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Speaker 6: is after the bye you get to Marion over shown

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Speaker 6: back and then you get Savonne Rebel. So someone has

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Speaker 6: to come off the field. Two people have to come

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Speaker 6: The biggest hope is that to those guys can play.

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Speaker 6: And I don't want to pooh pool a situation that

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Speaker 6: people are looking forward to. Just look around the league,

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Speaker 6: ladies and gentlemen. When guys come back from serious knee

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Speaker 6: I know the bar has been set extremely low because

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Speaker 6: of what has been put out there. So anything people

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Speaker 4: How many games does Overshown have what means he played total?

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Speaker 5: And again we don't know what revel is. I mean,

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Speaker 6: A glimmer of what seventeen of what Overshown has shown

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Speaker 6: revel will be I do think because the one last

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Speaker 6: Clowny's probably gonna play more. That's been one of the

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Speaker 9: Are these big changes in the middle of a season.

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Speaker 6: It's the best you can do. It's the best that

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Speaker 6: isn't there isn't much left, especially for that front that

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Speaker 6: front seven. There isn't much left that you can well,

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying as far as like you know, whenever

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Speaker 6: wrong with Diggs, you know he comes back and he's healthy.

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Speaker 5: He's better than what you have out there.

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Speaker 6: He's better than Kaye, he's better than the Ready, he's

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Speaker 6: better than Traquez Bridges, He's better than all those guys.

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Speaker 6: So that's a it's an upgrade.

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Speaker 1: But don't you have to have the desire? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You do.

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Speaker 7: So the problem with this team right now defensively is

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Speaker 7: you can't tell me most of these guys, and I'm

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Speaker 7: not excluding his secondary, they.

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Speaker 1: Don't have the experience.

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Speaker 7: You go and look at all these backups that play,

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Speaker 7: they don't have the experience.

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Speaker 1: But from the.

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Speaker 7: Linebackers on up, all of these guys got more than

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Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty games snaps. Yeah, yeah, two hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty snaps. You cannot tell me that they don't

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Speaker 7: know how to line up. You cannot tell me that

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Speaker 7: you don't know how to do run fits. And when

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Speaker 7: run it. That's a player. So nah, man, no, these guys,

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Speaker 7: it's about want to.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's about want to.

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Speaker 7: You look at the Cognal's film, and I look just

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Speaker 7: a little bit of the Cognis film. They've lost I

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Speaker 7: the ball, they trying, They're making plays here and there,

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Speaker 7: and I don't think the score was high.

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Speaker 1: I think they're giving up twenty two points a game.

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Speaker 7: Corm Man, you giving up thirty five points a game

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Speaker 7: and everywhere maginal, the run, the pass.

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Speaker 1: That's a players problem, man, Why is it so hard?

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Speaker 4: Kurt? Your bullet point number four? But this organization has

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Speaker 4: had a really hard time evaluating defensive talent in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Done a hell of a job on offense. Offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: You know, they did fit.

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Speaker 4: They've backed into a few things, you know, Dak, they

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Speaker 4: do pretty good.

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Speaker 6: They backed in the back in the twenty twenty years

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Speaker 6: with the quarterbright in fact, twenty plus years a quarter.

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Speaker 4: But for the most part, they do a pretty good

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Speaker 4: job of evaluating the you know they miss, all teams

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Speaker 4: are gonna miss. But they do a really pretty good

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Speaker 4: job of evaluating the offensive talent. But when it comes

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Speaker 4: to defensive talent, go through the stats because I'll screw.

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Speaker 1: The numbers up.

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Speaker 9: Ah, Sorry, I didn't have it.

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Speaker 4: Sorry my bad, but it seems like they've really struggled,

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Speaker 4: especially the last you know, ten years, and especially since

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they've drafted twenty eight defensive twenty six defensive players

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Speaker 9: since then, only eleven are still on the team. And

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Speaker 9: if you look at this season, eleven starters a game,

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Speaker 9: eight games, eighty eight starts, that group has only had

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Speaker 9: thirty one of them. And outside of you know, Blandonosa,

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Speaker 9: your regular starters, they're the only ones playing over fifty

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Speaker 9: percent of the snaps too.

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Speaker 4: Is defensive talent league wide harder to evaluate? Or is

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Speaker 4: this team just really good at evaluating offensive talent not

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Speaker 4: so good at evaluate defensive talent?

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Speaker 5: Think you have it?

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Speaker 6: I think that's just if you go, if we if

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Speaker 6: we took a fine tooth comb through every team's process.

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Speaker 6: You know, you look at the Baltimore Ravens and you

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Speaker 6: look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, they just hit on defensive players.

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Speaker 6: They just know how to find them. They just they

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Speaker 6: they just they just do they do right, like, they

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Speaker 6: just find them. And some teams are more I mean,

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Speaker 5: Because every coach comes with something different?

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Speaker 7: So if you don't know what you're looking for, how

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Speaker 1: Guy is not going to be fired.

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Speaker 7: Like for a long time, the Steelers had one defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 7: For a long time, the Philadelphia Eagles had one no

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Speaker 1: What is Mazi? You know what is Clark? Now?

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Speaker 7: What is osa Osa is a guy that penetrates up

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Speaker 7: the field, reckless abandon That is not what this guy want.

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Speaker 7: You got to have a purpose in why you're doing that.

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Speaker 7: Go look at Calis Campbell that plays.

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Speaker 1: For this team were watching.

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Speaker 7: He has a purpose when he shoots up the field.

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Speaker 7: He makes plays when he shoots up the field.

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Speaker 1: What are you looking for? What are you looking for?

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Speaker 9: When they have been better served because Dak has more

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Speaker 7: You know, even our offensive linemen haven't been as solid

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Speaker 1: In the end.

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Speaker 7: But when you just go to changing coaches and go

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Speaker 6: You know that's not too promising because right now it

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Speaker 5: Pretty soon.

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Speaker 9: You think even Plus was ever a long term answered DC.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he was always going to be looking for another.

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Speaker 1: We here we hear coach speak. This man. I'm keeping

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Speaker 1: about to pull a jesting. I'm keeping this real. This

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Speaker 7: They did him dirty, the way they fired him, the

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Speaker 1: They did him dirty.

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Speaker 7: That man had a very clean reputation going up into

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Speaker 1: Okay, you bringing this man here for we what we

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Speaker 7: I think they hired this man to try to start something,

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Speaker 7: You think you didn't even have a basis.

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Speaker 4: You think he's sitting back going I did just passed

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Speaker 4: watch the film for a year and see it was

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Speaker 1: Have walked in here in their right mind knowing that fellas.

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Speaker 1: Just think now we started.

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Speaker 7: Four guys in our secondary that would not even be

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Speaker 1: It gets you too.

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Speaker 7: So he got to stay about the fry of afraid

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Speaker 7: of whatever words you use there both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fire in the frame.

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Speaker 7: You know when I look at this, this this Dallas team,

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Speaker 1: Look at your two corners.

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Speaker 7: Do we even can you name them? I passed through corners.

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Speaker 7: Can you really just call their names? And what they

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Speaker 7: you ain't got to tell me who Ba Baker is?

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Speaker 1: Who is huh? Think about? You have tell me who

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just saying what impact player we have on

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Speaker 1: Say, yeah, yeah, closer, you got That's about it and

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Speaker 4: more calls. Chris who we got?

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Speaker 1: We got Chris and Maryland.

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Speaker 4: Chris and Maryland? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Bring up Chris?

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Speaker 12: I thank would say, I'm oh cool man. I shout out

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Speaker 12: I want to say, if it wasn't with Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 12: Everybody wanted to crown them, and we see what it

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Speaker 12: of course, you look real good when you're playing next

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Speaker 12: looking at these two draft picks, these two first round

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Speaker 12: I think it's got three to four years left to

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Speaker 12: So you to maximize that window of time because right

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Speaker 12: now we have nothing. I don't know why Sam Williams

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Speaker 12: If Kenny Clark was here to stop the run, brought

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Speaker 5: No, what was Chris?

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Speaker 1: He was either a word Chris, you a cryptic death rob.

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Speaker 1: He kind of scared of me. I like, is this

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Speaker 7: He was he was, he was bringing it, he knew

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Speaker 9: where guys develop and dax window closers, or you're gonna

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Speaker 9: go get somebody now that you know can play.

449
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 5: You know what, but you need so many I know

450
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 5: that's the problem.

451
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 9: Is not I'm not you're not doing it for now.

452
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 4: You're saying somebody that's got one or two years left

453
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 4: on the contract.

454
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Speaker 9: Oh, you need some you need a younger guy who's yeah,

455
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 9: you've got him for a little bit. You can't just

456
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 9: get a rent on.

457
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 7: And then I add to what he's saying, that can

458
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 7: flat out play.

459
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you don't waste.

460
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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, that can flat Okay.

461
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 6: So let's just say this, because we're giving up these assets, right,

462
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 6: what is the cost of assets? Because if we're talking

463
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Speaker 6: about a certain player on the West Coast and potentially

464
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 6: trying to bring him in, you're gonna need more than

465
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 6: just at first, they're gonna they know the value and

466
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 6: they've already said.

467
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Speaker 9: No, But do you know he can play.

468
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know that.

469
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 9: Is it worth it them? Because otherwise you're taking a

470
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Speaker 9: chance on a kid that you hope will be ready

471
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 9: in a couple of years. At a defensive side of

472
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 9: the balls, you've had trouble.

473
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: We've tried, We've tried. I was gonna say, we've tried

474
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: the draft route that hasn't worked so good on defense.

475
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 4: Why not go get a surefire thing that cost you

476
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: a little bit more than what It's.

477
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Speaker 5: Just insane that we have just made this.

478
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: To come back to where we were.

479
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 5: We just like we're in it like and this is.

480
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Speaker 7: Why you're not French. I'm not with them because with

481
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 7: a whole different type of player, like you.

482
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 6: Know, but we're talking about getting back to a place

483
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 6: that we already were ninety days ago, when the question

484
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 6: should have been how can we add to what we

485
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 6: already had?

486
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 5: The energy should have been let's keep him.

487
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, find a way to go trade for Kenny Clark,

488
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 6: find a way to go trade for or another interior player,

489
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 6: another line like your energy. And that's been the problem.

490
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 6: The problem is is that if you go and get

491
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 6: said player, are you willing to go put the other

492
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 6: pieces around.

493
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: It because you I was getting ready to say something.

494
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 6: You can't keep these guys here with that, because guess what,

495
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 6: that's insanity.

496
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 5: You're doing the same thing you just got finished doing.

497
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 6: So if you're going to go get this guy, you

498
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 6: have to take an entirely different approach than you did

499
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 6: for the last twenty years because this guy will be

500
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 6: replacing the guy that you just traded away. And with

501
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 6: that guy, what was the problem they had with him?

502
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 6: He was really good at one thing, but didn't have

503
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Speaker 6: the other pieces around him.

504
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Speaker 1: Because he was good enough to do it, he just

505
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: in one.

506
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 5: Right to complete the mission.

507
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 6: So if you're going to trade for that player that

508
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 6: we're talking about or someone like him, then also be ready,

509
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 6: either in the trade deadline or in the off season,

510
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 6: to not go bargain ben shopping, to not just rely

511
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 6: on draft picks, but to go and spend the necessary

512
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 6: capital seriously on the day one high end level dudes,

513
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 6: because if not, we're just playing. We're just replacing names now,

514
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 6: that's all we're doing.

515
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 9: I wish they would do that, because aren't we just

516
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 9: replacing names with another draft pick that's maybe got a

517
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 9: thirty first overall draft pick that's maybe gonna work out

518
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 9: in a couple of years.

519
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: I'm with you and that I've always fought the fight

520
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 6: of the way that you build this team. The proper

521
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: way is going out in free agency and getting those guys,

522
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 6: getting those guys who can play the game of football right.

523
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 6: Because we're doing because all we're doing is replacing names.

524
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 5: The system may change, and I mean the overall system

525
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 5: main't change.

526
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 6: If I take this name and send them to Green

527
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 6: Bay and then bring this name in and do the

528
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 6: same thing I did with the name that we said.

529
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 5: To Green Bay, guess what we'll get, Kurt.

530
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 6: We'll be in the same place next year, and we'll

531
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 6: be saying, it's the coach, it's.

532
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 5: The key, it's the scheme.

533
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 9: It's the window closes your.

534
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: Offensive window and you're starting back over on offense, and

535
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: then both sides are in DISARRAYE.

536
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 5: So so that's the biggest thing.

537
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 13: Man.

538
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 7: It's go ahead, goddamn, Kurt. You're correct, Yes, yes, you're correct.

539
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 7: Go get that guy. And if we got to give

540
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 7: up a pick, we give up a pick. But the

541
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 7: next twelve picks gotta be all defense, and two of

542
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 7: them got to be for run stoppers, run stoppers on it.

543
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 5: In case the first one don't work.

544
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: We signed the contract.

545
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 7: Bro. If you get one sat if it's one run,

546
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 7: fit you out of here.

547
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 6: But yeah, no, but but but you have to be

548
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 6: willing to go get the other pieces that you're doing.

549
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 6: That's part of what that's part of the problem right

550
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 6: now is that you're what you're watching on Sundays is

551
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 6: an extreme lack of depth of good players.

552
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 5: And to use a nate your term nate is to

553
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: have plus players. And you don't have to have elite

554
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: across the board, but I do need an elite.

555
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 6: But then I need to go and get plus players.

556
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 6: And the next thing that I'm about to say is

557
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 6: so critically important. Who love the game of football. We

558
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 6: get too many players in here who don't love the game.

559
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 6: We don't that who do not love the game. And

560
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 6: that's the part that frustrates me as a former player,

561
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 6: someone who had to fight scrap claw to make his

562
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 6: way and to stay afloat. Is when I see guys

563
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 6: get an opportunity or have the blessing and the privilege

564
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 6: to play in this league and then I watch them

565
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 6: on like I take it very slightly personal when I

566
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 6: hear we don't understand the scheme.

567
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 5: Second, I.

568
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 6: Know that every player's skill set doesn't fit. But when

569
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 6: you're starting to tell me, and this is what Shoddy

570
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 6: said to his press conference, we're talking about like eye

571
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 6: candy gets you, misdirection gets you. You know why this

572
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: team doesn't communicate, Kurt Daniels, because you don't communicate.

573
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: You don't when you don't know. When you know, you communicate,

574
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 5: you can tell everybody right the wrong.

575
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 6: When when your when your boy, when your boy knows

576
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 6: the answer, you can't keep him in the seat. Right

577
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 6: If you remember were back in grade school, and you'd

578
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 6: be like, all right, who knows the answer? Two plus two? Me?

579
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 6: They don't communicate because they don't know. And the reason

580
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 6: that they don't know is they don't put the time in.

581
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 6: They don't put the time in. Like I think back

582
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 6: to players like Sean Lee I was a part of

583
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 6: I was a teammate of Shan Lee. While Shoronley's body

584
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 6: failed him, his mind didn't. But you know why Seawan

585
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 6: was such a great communicator. When you watch these other teams,

586
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 6: while there's such great communication going on, knew the play

587
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 6: because people know what the hell they're doing. You just

588
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 6: I don't care what it is. Pick pick a profession.

589
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 6: If you're in any profession and the conversation comes up

590
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 6: about stuff that you know, you ain't shutting up. You

591
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 6: ain't shutting up. Let me tell you about all because

592
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 6: you know it.

593
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 9: It's like linebacker, but.

594
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 6: You watched it, because you mean to tell me that,

595
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 6: Like when I watch Fred Warner, when I when I

596
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 6: watch Nick Bolton, when I watch other of these other

597
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 6: linebackers in this league.

598
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 5: I'm just like, you mean to tell me what?

599
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: What?

600
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: What do they know that we don't know?

601
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: All right?

602
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: So question for you because I remember when Sean Lee

603
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 4: was here, and if you have one guy like him

604
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: that knows everything, that makes your whole defense better because

605
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: he can be like, this is coming, this is where

606
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: you yes, And when he heard he careful. Remember when

607
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: he would go out and they would look like they

608
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: didn't know what the hell was going on? Is that

609
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: kind of where we're now? You have nobody, nobody where,

610
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: nobody what the other teams nobody.

611
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 7: Let me tell you how simple it was. They had

612
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 7: a tackle and they had a tight end or our

613
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 7: big wide receiver and it had another wide receiver, and

614
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 7: they had moved like two yards from that tackle defensive

615
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 7: man is standing right there.

616
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: Somebody walked up. They didn't say crack. Yeah.

617
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 14: I had to say it was crack crack because they

618
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 14: washed crack washed crack wash crack, because that lets your

619
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 14: division end know, either turn your back to him fully

620
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 14: or hit that smoking you know, go.

621
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: Go out to it as you go up the field.

622
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: But nobody said anything.

623
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 7: Said anything, And all of a sudden we got a

624
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 7: forty yard touchdown that started by shield edge and I

625
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 7: just said to myself, I just I've.

626
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 6: Been around this game, man, far too long. I've talked

627
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 6: to too many people. The reason that they don't communicate

628
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 6: it ain't because the scheme is difficult. It's cover three, guys,

629
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 6: it's man the man, what the hell you've been.

630
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 5: Running with Cover three?

631
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 6: Been in the game of football since Charlie Choo Choo,

632
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 6: Justice and and and whoever the hell was back there

633
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 6: with no leather helmets.

634
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: I tell you what, man, my coach told me.

635
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: You got to I don't cut you, but but but keys,

636
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 5: the keys. What's your key?

637
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 6: Not those keys? But if you align backer, yo, these

638
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 6: are my keys. That's what I supposed to be doing.

639
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 6: But they don't communicate because I'm not in the locker room,

640
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 6: per se, or just say in the media room per se.

641
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 6: But I watch a lot of football man, and I

642
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 6: watch good teams, and I watch how they communicate. That's

643
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 6: because people know what they're talking about. That's because people

644
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 6: know what's going on. They sat there and they watched

645
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 6: the film past the hours that are required.

646
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: Past that.

647
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 6: And they don't just do a little hour on your iPad. No,

648
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 6: they make this about their lives. This to become their lobbyhood.

649
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 6: Gods ain't leaving out of here then all of a

650
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 6: sudden going home and kicking their feet up, playing the game,

651
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 6: running the streets, whatever.

652
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: Man for six months.

653
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: This is it.

654
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: This is it.

655
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 7: The first thing, you're talking defensive tackle, three techniques. Better,

656
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 7: if you're a tight eye, if that guy blocks down,

657
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 7: step down, look inside. Next place, you look outside because

658
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 7: they could be wheamming you. If you're a great tackle.

659
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 7: Next thing, if he's trying to reach you, go out

660
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 7: with him, read him. But look back inside because something

661
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 7: could be happening there where they're coming back inside with

662
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 7: a wham.

663
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: So look back inside.

664
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: I learned that seventh grade.

665
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: You know how Sam Williams got cracked in there like

666
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 6: when when when they watched when they watched the Carolina

667
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: film and they saw Sam Williams get cracked.

668
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 5: He so he ain't paying attention. Let's try it again,

669
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: he smiled.

670
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Faces.

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Speaker 6: How yeah, how how is it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 6: a it's a copycat league. They just gonna he come on, dong,

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Speaker 6: what when the receiver is in tight you should all

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Speaker 6: be yelling crack. It's what they do.

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Speaker 1: In that house, just cracked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's the part I'm talking about. Man, This

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Speaker 6: this it's it's it's too many guys on this team

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Speaker 6: who don't love the game of football, who aren't studying

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Speaker 6: the game of football, And that's why the communication isn't there.

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Speaker 6: And that's why so many guys don't know what the

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Speaker 6: hell they're doing, because everybody's quiet, because everybody's unsure of

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Speaker 5: And that's losing mentality. And that's why you're sitting where

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Speaker 5: you're sitting.

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Speaker 6: You know why, you know why the offense is doing

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Speaker 6: some pretty so damn well because when Dak walked up

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Speaker 6: to the line.

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Speaker 5: Of scrimmage, he's like, oh no, hey, check check kill

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Speaker 5: kill Hey.

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Speaker 6: Because he knows what he's looking at. He knows what

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Speaker 6: he's putting in the time, and those other guys are

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Speaker 6: able to adjust to it because he's like the captain

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Speaker 6: of the offense is like, yo, hey, look check that

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Speaker 6: up there. Hey, watch this right here. Hey, he's coming.

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Speaker 6: He's dropped. He's communicating that because he knows it. And

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Speaker 6: that's what you do when you know. But when you don't,

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Speaker 6: you just shut up. You hope that someone else says

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Speaker 4: Jesse and Nate, Kurt, you two, I.

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Speaker 1: Just think when you know who you are? Scary r

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Speaker 1: de Bo and what's man? He's here? No brown? No brown?

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Speaker 1: You're are quarterback?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 1: Which one are you?

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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 1: You're married? Are you the skinny one? Five?

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Speaker 4: Chris, let us take one more call, see if we

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Speaker 1: Who we got? All right? We got we got Josh

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Speaker 1: and Mary? Okay, Josh and man, what's up?

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Speaker 12: Hey?

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Speaker 13: What's going on? Something?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 13: I ain't whispering like Chris Well, I ain't whistling like

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Speaker 13: the height and saying it and uh, Kurt, y'all keep

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Speaker 13: y'all keep the hundred all the time too, manch real quick,

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Speaker 13: I ain't got you know, no complaints?

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Speaker 9: Man?

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Speaker 13: You are with your record sends you are? You know

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Speaker 13: what I mean? Ah? Just called the ship with stuff.

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Speaker 13: Check on y'all minis and Dentel's uh you know, and

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Speaker 13: I got one little simple rushing Jerry said earlier on

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Speaker 13: uh what is it? One O five three to fame.

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Speaker 13: He was like, uh, he spoke, and y'all been talking

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Speaker 13: about the linebackers a lot today, but he spoke on

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Speaker 13: the linebackers earlier the day, so and you know that

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Speaker 13: kind of I ain't really think, yeah it was you know,

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Speaker 13: it was a shot at the linebackers. But you know,

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Speaker 13: y'all be with Jerry Moore so corrected, or I'll be

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Speaker 13: with d at all, but correct me if of all,

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Speaker 13: is that a shot at eba flu? Because he is

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Speaker 13: you know, specialty is linebackers and they've been doing a

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Speaker 13: lot of protection and evil flutes. But this the first

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Speaker 13: time I heard, you know, Jerry don't really call out

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Speaker 13: certain position groups, and with him calling them out, is

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Speaker 13: that a shot at ebra flu? You know? Finding like,

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Speaker 13: all right, you know we might have to make some

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Speaker 13: type of change there, but that's pretty much it. Appreciate

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Speaker 13: your taking my call.

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Speaker 7: Out good And just let me ask you this right quick,

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Speaker 7: like dad on to what he's saying, Uh, if we

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Speaker 7: were to get another offensive coordinator in here?

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Speaker 1: Will he have enough respect from this staff defensive coordinator defensive.

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Speaker 7: Coordinator to to say, hey, these are the type players

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Speaker 7: we want. Is it gonna be a long term higher

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Speaker 7: or short time what's your feelings on that?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a short term higher, the.

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Speaker 6: Short term higher. A lot of times. That's usually for

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Speaker 6: a head coach type situation. I think when you get

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Speaker 6: a coordinator, you're expecting to be here for a while.

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Speaker 6: You expect to be because it is important that Will

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Speaker 6: McLay and his staff get the players. Because that's how

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Speaker 6: it happens, right, Like you bring a DC in here,

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Speaker 6: and the DC sits down with Will McLay and he

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Speaker 6: figures out what is your system?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: Your system is h three four four three. Here's what

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Speaker 5: we have. Here's what we already have here that we

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Speaker 5: are planning on keeping here.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: Let me let me tell you that part, and then

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Speaker 6: now how can we further get what you need for

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Speaker 6: your system? You know, certain defensive coordinators they have requirements,

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Speaker 6: you know. The most infamous one that we talk about

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Speaker 6: the most was Rod Maynelly had a certain type of

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Speaker 6: player that he looked for, and he said TJ. Watt

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Speaker 6: doesn't fit my aesthetics of what I look for in

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Speaker 6: a defensive end. Taco Charlton did. So he said no

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Speaker 6: to He told him no to him and yes to

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Speaker 6: him because of his measurements. You know, TJ. Watt didn't

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Speaker 6: put his hand in the dirt. Taco did. So, those

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Speaker 6: are the requirements that he had. Now did he missed

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Speaker 6: out on a player, absolut freakinguely, he did. But so

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Speaker 6: everyone comes in with that level of what they want.

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Speaker 6: And then now once you give that to Will McClay

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Speaker 6: hen now gives it to his staff and they go,

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Speaker 6: go find.

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Speaker 5: Me these dudes with these traits, right.

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Speaker 6: Go find me. If you're gonna run a cover three.

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Speaker 6: Anytime you're looking to run a zone type coverage, you're

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Speaker 6: gonna look for more of the longer, rangier players. Hence,

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Speaker 6: while you're going, you get a guy likes to oone revel,

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Speaker 6: taller type corner. You know, a bigger corner can can

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Speaker 6: cover more ground. Right, the throwing angles become a lot

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Speaker 6: more difficult now when you're throwing through these windows. Think

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Speaker 6: about a two three zone in basketball. Think about old

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Speaker 6: school Jim Behim and how he ran his two three zone.

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Speaker 6: He had six foot seven jokers out there in the wings,

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Speaker 6: and they spreading worms out like this, no passing lanes.

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Speaker 6: It's right, same thing applause to football. When you're trying

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Speaker 6: to run his own you want to have guys who

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Speaker 6: can cover a certain space.

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Speaker 5: So all that information is given to Will.

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Speaker 6: Will then deploys it out to his staff and then

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Speaker 6: now they go scour the earth to try to find

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Speaker 6: guys who fit the mold of what that defensive coordinator wants.

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Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: And to answer the callers question, I don't think it

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Speaker 6: was a shot at eber Flew, so to speak. I

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Speaker 6: think it was more of a finally they're starting to say,

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Speaker 6: and see what we've been seeing for the last couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks. And also he's just priming. Jevy's just prime

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Speaker 6: and let you know, we're getting a lie linebacker back.

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Speaker 9: His quote was, we need to basically have better play

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Speaker 9: from the linebackers, maintaining the integrity of our gaps which

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Speaker 9: linebreakers have to fill. The linebreakers have to slide. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: we did a poor John.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's Jerry sitting in on the meeting or

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Speaker 6: reading the notes that they shipped out there. To him

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Speaker 6: and sit here say this about what happened with the linebackers,

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Speaker 6: but also probably let you know that we get linebacker

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Speaker 6: play coming in with with with overshown.

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Speaker 5: But I've been saying it for weeks.

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Speaker 6: Kenneth Murray is a bad Linebacker's a busy bad linebacker.

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Speaker 5: Shamar James is just young. He's trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: You just you.

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Speaker 6: And part of the reason why you have bad linebacker

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Speaker 6: play is because your defensive line ain't good. And when

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Speaker 6: your defensive line ain't good, Uh, you know the one

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Speaker 6: plan that everybody's been showing on TV. When Shamar James

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Speaker 6: gets knocked down and then he get Elijah Clark and

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Speaker 6: he turns back, the guard turns back and then he

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Speaker 6: gets uh clowney. Well watch how the guards come off

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Speaker 6: the ball. No resistance. They just come right up and

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Speaker 6: get right to the backer. I mean, nobody slow them down,

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Speaker 6: slow them nothing, nothing. They just shot right up there

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Speaker 6: and there's nothing up front that's stopping these guys from

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Speaker 6: getting to the second the second level.

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Speaker 5: And you see then Shamar gets knocked down and then

894
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Speaker 5: what's it calls?

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Speaker 6: Playing paddy cake fifteen yards down the field and Harvey

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Speaker 6: goes in untouched for forty yard runs. So, yes, you

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Speaker 6: have bad linebacker play because they aren't fitting in the

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Speaker 6: right gaps. Part of that is because they just aren't

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Speaker 6: doing it. You know, a gap you're supposed to be in.

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Speaker 6: This ain't You ain't just get to planet Earth yesterday.

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Speaker 6: You ain't just pick up football yesterday. And then your

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00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 6: your defensive front is not good, so you're not keeping

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Speaker 6: guards and centers and other guys off your linebackers because

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Speaker 6: they don't ship blocks really good.

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Speaker 5: Hence why you're struggling defensively.

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Speaker 4: I know, we gotta go one question for each for

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Speaker 4: each of you, and then maybe we'll talk about tomorrow

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Speaker 4: since we're starting the draft show today.

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Speaker 1: Would you be opposed.

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Speaker 4: To locking up pick cans, locking up Williams, trading some

911
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Speaker 4: of your draft collateral for a war daddy on the edge,

912
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Speaker 4: and then spending, like you said, every single draft pick

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Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball and go for

914
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Speaker 4: it and be like, here's you want to go all in,

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Speaker 4: here's my chips for the next We got a two

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Speaker 4: year window.

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Speaker 7: I told you I was joking because that sounds so

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Speaker 7: much like right, yeah, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Jesse date Kurk good stuff today. We will be

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Speaker 4: back tomorrow camera extra day tomorrow. On this day tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: what are we doing tomorrow?

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Speaker 7: Cowboys offense, Cowboys defense, right, I mean Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 4: Cowboys offense, Arizona defense. Chris, thanks for keeping us on

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Speaker 4: their Josh, Thanks for keeping them a couple of back tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: O boys.

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