1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang, Wow just wow on Today's show, Play 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: of the Day, Play of the week, Play of the Year, 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: and there is no argument. Heck, the Wall Street Journal 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: wrote about it, NBC's Today's Show talked about it, and 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: we will as well. Heil Murray and the Arizona Cardinals 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: are in first place in the NFC West as Cardinals 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode three fifty two and it starts now. 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig grigolew and Mike Jarecki. 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of 10 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: throws near sight of Fritz Bob. He's into the nside 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Here is Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckie. 14 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: So I must have watched that play, MJ about two 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: dozen times when I got home last night from State 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium, and it's every single time you watched that play, 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: no matter what angle, you see something different, and it's amazing. 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: Here we're twenty four hours after the fact, and apologies 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: to Cliff Kingsbury, who said, Hey, a good twelve hours 20 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: you've got before you have to turn your attention to Seattle. Sorry, coach, 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: can't do it here on cards cover too. We're talking 22 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: about that play the entire show pretty much. Yeah, okay, 23 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: so let's start with the beginning of the play. DJ 24 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Humphreys either slips and so obviously Kyler realized that and 25 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: he goes to his left, which is basically thrown against 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: your body. We watch Aaron Rodgers do that twice in 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: one game, and then at some point he's got to 28 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, Isabella's open, but clearly DeAndre Hopkins is 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: a better option. Aids as Andy catch the ball and 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: then be if he does, does the time run out, 31 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: and then obviously the Hopkins play. But to me, it's 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: just fascinating where we know how big his hands are 33 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: and the fact that he wears those gloves and it's 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: not like now when the ball is coming down, obviously 35 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: he was able to possess it, but from the standpoint 36 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: of the highest peak he had both hands on the ball. Now, 37 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: I want to say, one of the guys try to 38 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: knock it out, and that's what you're taught if the 39 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: guy catches it, just punch it out because but we 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: know how strong his hands are, and to me, that 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: was the difference. I'm making that catch where you see 42 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: it all the time as a defensive back, and how 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: mary you know it can be They got to be 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: from the fifty. Sometimes it's a little bit more arc 45 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: on the ball, so it's coming down to a different angle. 46 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: And if the guy catches, you just knock it out. 47 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: Now obviously if he possessed it, touchdown, But so you know, 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: typical day after, was it a better throw or catch? 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's something I want to get into 50 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: and bird gang. There is no wrong answer here because 51 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: whether you liked the throw or you liked the catch, 52 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: everyone's focusing though I think locally nationally though, everyone's talking 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: more about the catch because that's the end results. And 54 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if enough attentions in his being put 55 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: on what Kyler Murray was able to do. So let's 56 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: kind of break it down a little bit here as 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: we all know what happened. But I went back, as 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned, I watched it in real time when I 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: got home. You've got eleven seconds to go, and this 60 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: is where it kind of gets interesting because you don't. 61 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think about it until reading some of the 62 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: postgame comments from Bill's head coach Sean McDermott. But on television, 63 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Ion Eagle and Charles Davis, who are doing the game 64 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: for CBS, Ion Eagles a great play by play voice. 65 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: One I gotta mention. He went to Syracuse and Charles Davis, 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: who we've had show here and they're talking about you've 67 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: got time for two plays. The Cardinals have enough time 68 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: for two plays, and then David said and less Murray 69 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: scrambles and all of a sudden, Now, if you've got 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: that clock going off in your head, you need to 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: make sure you just get it into the end zone. So, 72 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: and that's what McDermott was talking about because he was asked, obviously, 73 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: you know what do you do on a hell Mary, 74 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: And his response was, quote, with eleven seconds to go, 75 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: there's a chance that it's not the last play of 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: the game. If they get out of bounds on the 77 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: next catch. Obviously, that's then affects pernel and substitutions, whether 78 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: you want to put a tall person out there or whomever. 79 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: End quote. So as much as the Bills fan base, 80 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about this hell Mary play and hey, how 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: come this and that? Well, from the bill standpoint, MJ, 82 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: they thought, much like I think everyone else did in 83 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: real time, you throw the quick toss to the sideline, 84 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: get out of bounds to where you have a shorter 85 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: throw into the end zone thirty yards thirty five yards 86 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: as opposed to what Murray did of a fifty yard throw. Yeah, 87 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad you pointed that out because from 88 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: a head coach, you could see that angle and if 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: you do get an immediate route and you get out 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: of bounce, the fact is when you look at it, 91 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: I mean, if you change personnel, they're going to bring 92 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: their guys in. And you know, one thing we'll get 93 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: into is some of the three and outs, where Kingsbury thought, 94 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: because of their secondary, that's why they're through the football. 95 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: And he didn't make any apologies for that's what head 96 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: coaches think on the sidelines, and obviously they've forgotten more 97 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: football than we'll ever know. But that's an important, important 98 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: distinction to bring up if you're on the other sidelines. Yeah, 99 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: because if it's a true hall Mary the last play 100 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: of the game, maybe you're only rushing two or three 101 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: and dropping everyone back classes to the goal line. That's 102 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: not what the Bills did because the Cardinals were showing 103 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: a one by three set with Hopkins by himself on 104 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: the left side, So a normal play design with trips 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: to the far side of the field and then the 106 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: snap is taken. And to your point about DJ Humphries, 107 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Mario Addison is in pursuit the right defensive end and 108 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if he clipped Murray. He might have 109 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: gotten a finger or a hand on his shoe. Because 110 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: Murray was able to escape, showing his athleticism, threw the 111 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: ball from the fifty yard line. His back foot was 112 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: at midfield at Oliver tall ed Oliver with his hands 113 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: up in the air bearing down on him. So the 114 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: ball leaves Murray's hands with six seconds to go. MG. 115 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: That's the final play of the game, no matter what happens, 116 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: because at that point, as long as it travels and 117 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: as high as it travels, you're not gonna get another opportunity. 118 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals fortunate because while with Hopkins, if you're 119 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: single coverage, you're in trouble. You're double coverage, you're in trouble. 120 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: And obviously what we saw on Sunday triple coverage. You're 121 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: in trouble. He comes down with that football, that's amazing. 122 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: So to hear the ball close to five seconds before 123 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: he threw it trying to scramble and buy some time 124 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: and loud Hopkins to get down the field. And we 125 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: heard from Humphreys earlier today talking about he slipped on 126 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: the play and was worried that Murray was going to 127 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: get a sack and that would be the last image 128 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: of that ball game. And then you look at where 129 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: the ball is. Micah Hyde is behind Hopkins, Dredivious White 130 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: is in front, and Jordan Poyer comes in late. So 131 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: those are your three players. Charles Davis on the broadcast 132 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: brought up Hopkins his gloves. He said it was a 133 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: six x I've heard three x five x bottom line 134 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: as Hopkins has big hands, but he jumped at six 135 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: players six feet hide his six feet and wide his 136 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: five eleven. But he gets his hands on the football 137 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: both hands. He had that ball secured at first touch 138 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: and it does not move as the ground. It was 139 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: like a normal pitch and catch if you will, quarterback 140 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: to wide receiver, ball secure ball game, it's over. You 141 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: know it was amazing. Listen to the postgame comments from 142 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Murray Hopkins in King Arry too, that's the first time 143 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: it's ever happened in their career. You know, football games 144 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: He's guys have been in. Murray has had some last 145 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: second games and high school not a hail Mary, true, 146 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: but he's had those game winning throws on a two 147 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: point conversion. But you're right as far as you throw 148 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: it up. This year, he's got some fourth quarter comebacks. 149 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: But talking about the last play of the game where 150 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: it's if you don't catch it, the game's over. Yeah, 151 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: And that was his fifth career game winning drive and 152 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: here in is only a second year in the NFL. 153 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: And with respect to that catch, I thought it was 154 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: interesting to point out I heard Ron wilfully mentioned it 155 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: on the radio this morning, and Humphrey's brought it up 156 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: that teams practice all the time, but it's hard in 157 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: a practice setting where sometimes on Friday, guys aren't going 158 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: full speed, the defense is not trying to hurt their 159 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: teammates to try to knock the ball down, So there 160 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: is some luck involved. But according to Humphrey's quote, that's 161 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: the only time I've ever seen it not be luck. 162 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: End quote as far as what Murray was able to 163 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: do showing his athleticism, and then Hopkins downfield showing his 164 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: athleticism out jumping three defenders high pointing that football on 165 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: coming down with a clean catch, where even if you 166 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: reviewed it, it would have been, oh, that's no problem 167 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: because there was no movement with that football. There was 168 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: never a question on whether he came down with that catch. 169 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: So you're basically saying, because of their skill set that play, 170 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: you gotta be lucky at it, just based on you know, 171 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: the playhow it's developing. But if you want to talk 172 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: about the two guys were discussing here, it's really about 173 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: their skill set, correct. Yeah, I guess there's always a 174 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: little bit of luck in every single play, but if 175 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: you execute perfectly, and that's exactly what Murray did, and 176 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: he bought himself sometime. I don't know how many quarterbacks 177 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: would have been able to escape the pocket like he 178 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: did with the defender coming down the line at him 179 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and then getting the ball over the hands at Oliver 180 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: who at what must have looked like he was seven 181 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: feet tall seven five or whatever. And then it was 182 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: funny because Kingsbury brought up the fact that Murray didn't 183 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: see the catch live downfield. He turned to look at 184 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: the big screen behind him. Because of his small stature, 185 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: he couldn't see over everyone else. I thought that was 186 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: a funny little antidote because it was a mass of 187 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: humanity down there. And then I thought what you mentioned 188 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: on Cardinal Talk from Dave Passion's perspective, where we are 189 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: in the broadcast booth, that end zone is not completely opposite, 190 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: but it's the north end zone and it's one hundred 191 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: yards away, and that is hard to see. And I 192 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: think there was a little bit of a lay yeah 193 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: that would all say this. When the Bills players came 194 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: down and they showed no reaction, no emotion, that's when 195 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: I kind of knew. I think he caught the ball. 196 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: Talking about Hopkins and then both the officials arms went up, 197 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my goodness, he caught that football. Yeah. Now, 198 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: when you talk about Mario Addison, do you remember him 199 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: last year? I do. He's the gentleman, and I forgot 200 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: to mention it last week, but he had three sacks 201 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray last year in that Panthers game. So yeah, 202 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: So babe, it's the tables turned switched. And then of 203 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: course there was that story out of Buffalo last week 204 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: with respect to Ed Oliver, who was a Texas high 205 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: school player and on the receiving end of one of 206 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: those Murray state championships. So you know, he's going back 207 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: into that locker room and going back to Buffalo going 208 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: he got me again. That's twice. Now he's gotten me. 209 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happ for a lot of guys that 210 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: played in the Big Twelve, just you know, between you know, 211 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Mayfield and Murray and whoever the quarterback is now, I'm 212 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: sure it's happened a lot. But yeah, m did you 213 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: get a chance to see the video with Eric Burkhart 214 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: and Kevin Murray. I did see that. It was good. 215 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: It was good that the family, Murray's family was in attendance, 216 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: so that was that was nice. There's just a lot 217 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: of reaction video DJ Humphries open mouth became a meme, 218 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: became a gift, and of course Humphries had to be 219 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: asked about that and he's like, oh, yeah, I'm perfectly acceptable. 220 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: In fact, that smile didn't come off my face until 221 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: this morning. So it's amazing just the difference on how 222 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: that game turned in a matter of thirty four seconds, 223 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs with a great catch, Buffalo goes up by four. 224 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals come back thirty two seconds later. They take a 225 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: thirty two thirty lead and win the ballgame. And for 226 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: people listening, Eric Burkhart represents Kyla Murray, who represents Cliff Kingsbury, 227 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: and Kevin Murray is the father, and we know that 228 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: it really started with him, And if you want to 229 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: be honest, he's really the quarterbacks coach. I don't believe 230 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: he interferes. I'm sure they have conversations, but he's the 231 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,599 Speaker 1: one that taught him how to throw a baseball and 232 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: a football. Teage is six. So you can just see 233 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: the excitement from they knew this was happening. I don't 234 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: know if they knew he would Rookie of the Year. 235 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: When you step right off the tarmac at Sky Harbor 236 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: and they hand the keys to car to you and 237 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: it's a Ferrari and it don't screw it up. By 238 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: the way, this play has been labeled Hail Mary, and 239 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: I like it and it's gonna stick because it's everywhere now. 240 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: I like what Dave Patch that on Twitter. He called 241 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: it holy hop and then I an eagle on the 242 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: TV broadcast, it's Murray magic. I do like Hail Murray, 243 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: but kind of partial a little bit the Holy hop 244 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: if you believe that the results mattered as opposed to 245 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: the throw of Kyler Murray. You know Lawrence Times, a 246 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: kicker for the New York Giants. He would know because 247 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: he played there against the New England Patriots, and I 248 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: want to say that was the David Tyree catch. How 249 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: many moments just NFL We know about college football Boise 250 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: State at the Statue of Liberty, but just NFL games there, 251 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: and it's not just Cardinals game. We're talking super Bowls 252 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: and then you're throwing playoff games. It's fascinating how many 253 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: great events over the fifteen year span, and there's been 254 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: great Cardinal games on any typical Sunday when they were 255 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: winning fifty games in five years, you know, when they 256 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: made a run in two thousand and eight. It's just 257 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: it's interesting that stadium has got a lot of magic 258 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: in it. Well, that's the end zone that Aaron Rodgers 259 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: through the hell Mary against the Cardinals and that playoff 260 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: game that we've talked about here before on cards cover too, 261 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: So that end zone certainly has seen a lots of 262 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: magical moments. And I want to say plexico burst touchdown 263 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: came and that end zone because David Tyree, first of all, 264 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: he looked like Eli Manning was in the grass, but 265 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: Mike Carey did not make the call let him play. 266 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: I want to say that was that. I want to say, 267 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: you know other games, you know, Sean Murray block punt 268 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. I was at the other end, but 269 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: just fascinating. And it's the fifteenth year and you know, 270 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: you'd say they're just scratching the surface, but it's just 271 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: because you know, the host of Fiesta Bowl and Cardinals obviously, 272 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, are one of the more not exciting teams 273 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: in football. It's gonna be interesting, Craig when it comes 274 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: to flexing these schedule because you got division games coming 275 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: up and they haven't played the Rams yet, and you 276 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: just don't think the Giants and Eagles are you know, 277 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're better games that week, but it wouldn't 278 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: surprise me if they get flexed out. It could be 279 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Week seventeen. You know, usually it's division games. Is Buffalo 280 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: is playing in Miami in the Cardinals. I don't want, 281 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: you'll possibly a clinch star position to clinch. Maybe that's 282 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: the game we know Week seventeen right now, there's no 283 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: schedule for that Sunday night game. And sometimes you don't 284 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: want to play in that because you got to get 285 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: ready for the next week, but you would take it 286 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: if it needs needs to get into the postseason. Yeah, 287 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: that's Sunday Nights for the Cardinals in Week seventeen on 288 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: the road at the Rams right now, that's a two 289 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: twenty five kickoff from SOFI Stadium. One last note on 290 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: this throw and catch. You've seen every single Cardinals game 291 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: played in the state of Arizona. There have certainly been 292 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: some great plays, whether it's offense, defense, or special teams. 293 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: But for you, and I know it's you know, maybe 294 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: recency bias as far as what stands out to you 295 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium, Sundevil Stadium. And I think you understand 296 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: where I'm getting at, But just your where do you 297 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: put this play with respect to what you've seen out 298 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals? All Right, So Sun Devil Stadium, 299 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: they were playing the Chargers and they had to win 300 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: to get into postseason. That's the year they knocked off 301 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and they had four interceptions in Chris 302 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: Jackie's field goal, they tore the goal post down, they rushed, 303 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean we all rushed the field. I mean just 304 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: because you wanted to get the reaction from players. I remember, 305 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, Corey Chavis was right there, so that that 306 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: sticks out. And then I got to go back to 307 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: the Packers playoff game the third to Larry Fitzgerald. It 308 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: wasn't like Hail Mary, Larry. Literally Carson had to throw 309 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: across the field, Larry's getting chased. And the fact is that, 310 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: you know they called the Oaky Shuffle. That play really 311 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: resonates with me. But this player that happened on Sunday 312 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: definitely in the conversation. Well, here's this historical note from 313 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Mike Count, manager of media relations for the Arizona Cardinals, 314 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: stat wiz Sunday's game. First time the Cardinals won a 315 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: game on a touchdown pass on the final scrimmage play 316 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: of regulation since Josh McCown's twenty eight yard touchdown passed 317 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: to Nate Pool as time expired. December twenty ninth, two 318 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: thousand and three, Minnesota Vikings knocked the Vikings out of 319 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: the postseason knocked the Cardinals from the number one overall 320 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: draft pick. They dropped to number three. Select Larry Fitzgerald 321 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: with that pick, and the rest, as they say, MJ 322 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: is history. Yeah, that was a terrible season, great play, 323 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: And you know I can appreach Josh McCown and Nate Pool. 324 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: And you know Nate went up there and got a 325 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: key to the city and he sent Josh some cheese 326 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: and he got constipated. He said, Yeah, listen, I don't 327 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: know if Eli Manning would have pulled the same thing. 328 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously his father's got pulled. Denny Green was 329 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: still taking Larry Fitzgeryl. Maybe they traded down, but he 330 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: was still taking He told us he's taking the best 331 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: player in the draft. And I think it's safe to 332 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: say that Denny Green was right, even though I was 333 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: pounding the table of her Ben Roethlisberger. Well, okay, going 334 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: from number one to number three, perhaps Josh McCown costs 335 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: fits some money because there's some difference there between the 336 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: number one overall picks and the number three overall pick. Yeah, okay, 337 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: I don't think Larry's never gonna have to worry about that. Okay, 338 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: So what's your answer you know what I and like 339 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: you said, you pressed preference. There's no right or wrong answer. 340 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: Was Kyler Murray what he had to do to put 341 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins in that situation. Hopkins is one of the 342 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: best receivers in football. I don't think we should be surprised, 343 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: but the fact that three guys were draped down. But 344 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has to make that throw. He has to 345 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: roll out to his left side and he's getting to 346 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: the sidelines, and he's got to make the throw down 347 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: the field. Not a lot of guys can make that throw, 348 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: as you point out, So I'm gonna go with throw. 349 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with you because the other aspect 350 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: of this, as far as the rolling out, he's right handed, 351 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: people are him and he rolls left, so you're throwing 352 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: across your body to a certain extent on a full sprint. 353 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: You stop, sort of set yourself. You're still not in 354 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: perfect position to throw that football, and you do throw 355 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: it somewhat off your back foot, falling backwards with Ed 356 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Oliver in your face. And yes, as much as the 357 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: catch was outstanding, the best of Hopkins's career and his words, 358 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: not mine, I'm going to lean towards Kyler Murray, not 359 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: just the throw, but getting in position to make that throw. Yeah, 360 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: we're splitting hairs here because you can make a great 361 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: throw and if Hopkins doesn't catch it, we're having a 362 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: totally different conversation. And now now you're looking at Seattle 363 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: and you're five and five and everything you've built up 364 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: so and you know how I feel about losing streaks, 365 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: and we got so much to get into, you know, 366 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: just defensively once again. You know the Bills where they 367 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: score seven points in the second half, I mean just 368 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: one touchdown, two touchdowns, two touchdowns, okay at the end. 369 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: But the fact is that you know, they are obviously 370 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: decimated on the d line, and they come up with 371 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: some sub packages and Simmons, who's getting better week in 372 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: and week out. He's actually making plays on special teams, 373 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: which is if you're going to dress on game day, 374 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: you gotta make some plays. So and really I was 375 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: concerned about Andre Roberts, you know, but I thought the 376 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals settled down when it came to their kickoff return, 377 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: doesn't you know, you know, Christian Kirk, I think the 378 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: fact that he's getting so much run out wide receiver 379 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: that's probably not a priority. The main thing is when 380 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: you catch them, all go straight, regardless if it's a 381 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: punt or a catch, and I think he'll learn from 382 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: that when he watches that on film. Bird Gang, make 383 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: sure you update to the latest version of the Cardinals 384 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: mobile app today. The update features and all new redesign 385 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: homescreen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot com slash app for more. 386 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: A victory Monday edition of Cardinals cover two Hunday, proud 387 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Before we discuss for a 388 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: little bit as far as what we would have been 389 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: discussing for the bulk of today's show, if what we're 390 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: not for those final eleven seconds, we do want to 391 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: update the Bird Gang about some of these injuries from 392 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury. Though nothing definitive as we broadcast 393 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: at the moment. Perhaps maybe things change by the time 394 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: fans listen to this podcast. But the most significant is 395 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: defensive lineman Corey Peters suffered the right knee injury had 396 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: to be carted off the field. Kingsbury, as he did 397 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: last night, didn't sound very optimistic earlier today quote it 398 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: hasn't sounded good from what I gathered this morning end quotes. 399 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: And you hate to speculate, MJ, but this much I 400 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: do know. Corey Peters will not be on the field 401 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: this week. Now we just have to figure out is 402 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: he going to be on the field this season. Yeah. 403 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: I think if you listen to this show since you 404 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: you and I'd been doing it, there's one guy that good, 405 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: bad or and different when you go to his locker 406 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 1: news there's other guys for different reasons, but he always 407 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: would stand there and even during the Wilkes time, he 408 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: knew things weren't going well, but he would never throw 409 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: anybody at the bus. They're gonna miss him, and they're 410 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: gonna miss him in the locker room. They're gonna miss 411 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: his leadership now, just like Chandler Jones. Depending on you know, 412 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: the injury and the extent he's gonna be out. He'll 413 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: be around the team, but they're gonna miss him. And 414 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: I thought he was playing really well this year. You know, 415 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: they put better talent around him, and I guess at 416 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: this point in time, Craig, we just got to have 417 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: our fingers crossed that Jordan Phillips could return. Now. Now 418 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: it had to be difficult for him to miss that 419 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: game against his former teammate team. Obviously, you know, he 420 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: played well there enough to where Sean McDermott said last 421 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: week we wish we could could a cup him in 422 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals game a long term deal. You know, he's 423 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: been dealing with that hamstring injury and I know he 424 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: hasn't you know, played like he did maybe in the 425 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: first six weeks of the season. I think he's dealing 426 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: with that injury and sometimes you gotta shut these guys 427 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: down two games in five days, but they can definitely need, 428 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: definitely need him. I think when the Cardinals make some 429 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: roster moves, and it could be tomorrow or or whenever, 430 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: I think that's will you know the extent there, because 431 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to make some moves on the practice 432 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: squad if they want to, you know, get another linement 433 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: up there. Depending on the availability of Jordan Phillips. Yeah, 434 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: right now, you're rehealthy defensive lineman Josh Morrow, Angela Blackson, 435 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: and Travon Coley knock On Wood. Phillips is able to 436 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: go this week. You do have Richard Lawrence designated to return. 437 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: He's on the practice field. Is he able to be 438 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: activated for this Thursday, and then Michael Dogby on the 439 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: practice squad and that's it, because you cannot go outside 440 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: of the building and this short amount of time give 441 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: it COVID nineteen protocols to have someone ready for Thursday night. 442 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: So moral blacks and Coley we know for sure, and 443 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: then we leave it up and figure out who's going 444 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: to be that fourth or fifth guy come Thursday. Well, 445 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, normally when you start the game, you're playing 446 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: your three four, but we know the Cardinals put two 447 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: guys on the outside, so really it's a five man front, 448 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: which your inside linebackers. I don't know if you can 449 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: do that that early in the game, but as the 450 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: games progressed over the last month or so, when you 451 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: start to get to adjustments, whether it's you know, on 452 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: the sidelines or halfter halftime, the Cardinals have shown true 453 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: defensive alignment, and then they would you know, have obviously 454 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: six defensive backs mixing and matching based on matchups. So 455 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do that the entire game, 456 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: because you're asking guys like Cooley and Blackson to come 457 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: in there and play more snaps than they have. I 458 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: think the reason why those guys are able to play 459 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: at a high level. A opportunity and b they're not 460 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: taking the beating every single down. So but Vance is 461 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to come up with something. I think he will, 462 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: That's what he likes to do. But I just like 463 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: the fact that the secondary, you know, Kirkpatrick got a pick, 464 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: he was better in the tackling. They did targetment. Sometimes 465 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: he was on digs and you know, obviously, you know, 466 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: you got to figure out the defense. Buddha Baker, you know, 467 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: he made plays. You look at his numbers, I mean, 468 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: his UM grades are really so and then you're throwing 469 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson. The other defensive injury, Devandre Campbell, with a 470 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: calf injury, suffered with about three minutes to go in 471 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: the third quarter. Isaiah Simmons, though, stepped in and played 472 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: meaningful snaps thirty two, by the way, grated out well 473 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus above average and rush defense, 474 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: pass rush and coverage. And then one play that I 475 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: know kylo uderguard on easy Cardinals dot Com singled out 476 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: with respect to Simmons. He almost had a sack of 477 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, got back up and then tackled Devin's singletary 478 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: for a five yard loss to force a punt, showing 479 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: off his athleticism. So if Campbell is unable to go, 480 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: you have seen the progress not only on the field, 481 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: but I think off the field as well of an 482 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons to where maybe all of a sudden you 483 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: plug and play him next to a Jordan Hicks. Yeah, 484 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: and we got to mention Josh Murraw because the guy 485 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: plays with his hair on fire. You know he's excited 486 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: to be back here. He obviously he's bounced around again. 487 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: A guy that can come in and bring some energy. 488 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: And then with Canard returning, you really have a nice 489 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: little rotation and outside linebacker and they all three can 490 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: rush and that's you know, Canard's more of a you know, 491 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: set the edge guy good in the rush defense. But 492 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: we know guys like Reddick and Golden can rush the quarterback. 493 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: And I believe Isaiah Simmons going to rush the quarterback. 494 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: I know they haven't asked him to do that. I 495 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: mean you mentioned a play he got close. When you 496 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: look at Josh Ellen, and we got a chance to 497 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: see two live in person. I look at Josh Allen, 498 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: he reminds me of a young Ben Roethlisberg, you can't 499 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: bring down that guy. He's like Big Ben out there. Yeah, 500 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: guys were bouncing off of him left and right. It 501 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: seemed for a lot of that game yesterday, two injuries 502 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: on the offensive side. Kenyan Drake, with six forty to play, 503 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: got hurt on a five year run to Shoe and 504 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: then just didn't return, and that became Chase Edmonds and 505 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as far as running the football, and then 506 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: Darrell Daniels early in the first half suffered an ankle 507 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: injury and had to be carted off the field. So 508 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're paying attention to this week, 509 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: especially on a short week. I did like the fact 510 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: that when Drake was out there after missing one game, 511 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: that one two punch that you've talked about a lot 512 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: this season, MJ. Kenyan Drake, Chase Edmonds, there was a 513 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: lot more balanced running that football yesterday. And you know, 514 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: there was some speculation and maybe just some innu windows 515 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: that since Kenyan Drake was going to play it. They 516 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: never told the season is going to be on a 517 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: pitch count, but they felt that's their best option, the 518 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: one two punch. Kenyan Drake made some mental airs early 519 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: in that game, obviously the fumble, and you know, just 520 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, I think he knows he's 521 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: got to be out there because they're a different team 522 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: when they had that one two punch and then whatever 523 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray gives you it just you know, you know, 524 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: I guess you know Cherry on the Sunday, so to speak. 525 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, there there there are a more efficient team 526 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: when Drake and Chase and Murray are running like that. Yeah, 527 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: he had a false start the wrong way on a 528 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: play that resulted in a seven yard loss for Murray 529 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: and the early in the contest, and that's at that 530 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: point you're like, okay, now you're now you're seeing the 531 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: effects of when you're not on the practice field getting 532 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: those repped. Yep. And you know Bruce Arians Ronald Jones 533 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: had a fumble in their game early, but he also 534 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: had a ninety eight yeard run. And I want to 535 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: say a Q Shipley had a great block. But when 536 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: Aarons was here and David Johnson put the ball in 537 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: the carpet, hey come over here. You're gonna stand next 538 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: to me for about three or four possessions and I 539 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: want you to And there was a point where it 540 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: wasn't David Johnson walking around the facility with a football 541 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: in his hand? Yeah, that was Yes, I know what happens. 542 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: But again, he's been in the league long enough. You 543 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: got First of all, what you said is one percent right, 544 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: and I didn't think about it when you're not in 545 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: the practice field and getting those mental reps. That's the 546 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 1: difference of when the place called and Kyler just had 547 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: to sitting on that play. But three mental ers not good. Now, 548 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: if the results had been different on Sunday afternoon and 549 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: we were speaking to the bird gang here on a 550 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty six lost the Buffalo Bills, it'd be 551 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: one of those games where we say, all right, you 552 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: let another one slip away. Although I would argue that 553 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: as much as the Dolphins loss hurts, as much as 554 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: the Lions loss hurts, those games you're lost. I think 555 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: I would have come in here on Monday and said, 556 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: you just got beat. They made one more play than 557 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: you did. Talking about the Buffalo Bills, but we'd be 558 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: pointing to the final two possessions offensive possessions in which 559 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: the Cardinals went three and outs. They had back to 560 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: back three outs with a twenty six twenty three lead, 561 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: and that's where a lot I think of our conversation 562 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: would be here on this Monday, and the Cardinals inability 563 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: to gain a third and one because Murray was out 564 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: of the shotgun and then on the second possession, two 565 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: straight incompletions followed by Kyler Murray going back to pass 566 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: getting sacked and that drive only taking fifty six seconds 567 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: off the clock, allowing the Bills to come up with 568 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: their game winning drive. Yeah. So just for our listeners 569 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: who are talking about fourth quarter, Cardinals get the ball 570 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: at six forty mark the first and ten at their 571 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: own two yard line. You mentioned Drake up the middle 572 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: for five yards, second and five from the seven Edmunds 573 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: for four yards, and then third and one. I think 574 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: you and I came in an agreement last night with 575 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Vandenbosch when you're in third and one, preferred the 576 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: quarterback to be under centered. Now that was not four 577 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: down territory for the Cardinals, and so you look at 578 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: that possession and then they have the punt and then 579 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: when now we're talking Cardinals getting the ball back after 580 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: the Drake Kirkpatrick interception or first intents from the Bills 581 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: first and ten shotgun, passing complete to Hopkins, second and 582 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: passing complete to Hopkins and then third and ten. He's 583 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: sacked minus six yards. So well. One thing that Cliff 584 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: pointed out because of their secondary, he thought there's some 585 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: options in there. And one thing we learned about Kingsbury, 586 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: whether you'll like it or not, he's going to be aggressive. 587 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: We talk about this team's identity. I think it's safe 588 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: to say in Cliffs appointed to it, it's speed or 589 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: up tempo, physicality and aggressiveness. That's who the Cardinal's identity. 590 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: Whether you want to look at it one side or 591 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: the other. Yeah, he said that was the plan to 592 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: be aggressive when he met the media postgame, and then 593 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: doubled down earlier today, saying, no, we like the matchup. 594 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: We wanted to be aggressive and take advantage of that 595 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: Bills depleted secondary. It's unfortunate the plays weren't executed or 596 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: just the results were different. The other point I would 597 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: mention with respect to the offense is nothing against Zane Gonzales, 598 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: but four field goals probably three too many, because twice 599 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: in the first half you had first and goal, could 600 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: not converts and had to settle for a twenty three 601 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: yard field goal and a twenty one yard field goal. 602 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: The offense as well as it is moving the ball 603 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: up and down the field as well it is scoring, 604 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: there are still times in which you're left scratching your 605 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: head because, especially on that first drive thirteen plays seventy 606 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: five yards, you're moving the ball and then all of 607 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: a sudden it's first and goal at the seven and 608 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: you stall out. That is what we would be talking 609 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: about more here on Monday if the results Sunday with 610 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: eleven seconds to go were quite different. Yeah, I can't 611 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: tell you. Twitter is blowing up right there saying you're 612 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: not going to beat these team kicking field goals. And 613 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: it's true because they've been playing just a as well 614 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals offense, you know, week to week, at 615 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: their numbers are when you start looking at the ranking 616 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: yards per game, points per game, you know, passing yards, 617 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: they were pretty even. You and I, at least I 618 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: said it, and I think you agreed that that was 619 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: the best team they've played up until this point. Yes, 620 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: and you needed to be able to match them score 621 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: for score, and the Cardinals work. That's why they went 622 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: down by as many as fourteen points in that third quarter. 623 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: But again, we're talking about it here on a victory Monday, 624 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: just pointing out the fact that, yes, this team perhaps 625 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: showed MJ that they can overcome these mistakes. You couldn't 626 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: have said that a year ago. You might not even 627 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: been able to say that earlier this season. And that's 628 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: what separates a good team from eight team. Not calling 629 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals a great team yet, but they are certainly 630 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: have that door open just a little bit to where 631 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: you can see some light inside, because if you're not 632 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: able to overcome those mistakes, then you're sitting here with 633 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: a five and four record, going to Seattle staring five 634 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: and five in the faith come Friday morning. Well, you 635 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of cliches in sports, and you 636 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: know you gotta play four quarters, you gotta play sixty minutes, 637 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: and we know every football game comes down the four 638 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: to six plays, and the way the NFL is going 639 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: this year, the last five minutes, teams are coming back 640 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: from a fourteen point deficite the Cardinals, and so you 641 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: look at that from that standpoint. But I just think 642 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: I would have been disappointed if they lost that game. 643 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: Craig just oh, I wouldn't. I would have been too yes, 644 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: even though you know you played a really good opponent. 645 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: You know they were riding high just based on them 646 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: having some success against the NFC West. But I would 647 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: have been disappointed because you know, I feel about losing 648 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: streaks and this team has momentum right now. And you know, 649 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I like the fact every time 650 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 1: they line up now, I believe they got a chance 651 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: to win. So when we start talking about these cliches, 652 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, the four quarters, sixty minutes in game of inches, 653 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: what have you been talking about? Finish in the defense. 654 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, let's give them credit in the second half, 655 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: great throw on digs, But the Cardinals were able to finish. 656 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's going to pass up a time to 657 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: the defense if they have the opportunity to make a stop, 658 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: and then sometimes it's going to be the offense. But 659 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 1: they're learning how to finish, they're learning how to win, 660 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: and I think good teams find ways to win. Not 661 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: saying the Bills are a bad team is one game, 662 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: but you look at some of these teams with lesser records. 663 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, good teams find ways to win. Bad teams 664 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: find ways to lose. And we can probably make that 665 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: case more last year in the first half, and then 666 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: definitely when Steve Wolkes was here, and you got to 667 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: give the defense a lot of credit for allowing the 668 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: offense to be put in that position late in that contest. 669 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: You mentioned the second half, the Bills had the ball 670 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: eight times. They had the ball four times in the 671 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 1: first half, scored on all four drives. They had eight 672 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: possessions in the second half, four punts, two turnovers, and 673 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, the second of which the twenty one yard 674 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: passed to Stefan Diggs in the end zone. Yes, Patrick 675 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: Peterson was in coverage. Yes, it's the number one wide 676 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: receiver against your number one corner, and Diggs was able 677 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: to win that matchup. But the ball was thrown where 678 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: only one person was going to catch it, and that 679 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: was Diggs. And if he doesn't catch it, it's an 680 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: incomplete pass. And from our vantage point in the press box, 681 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: it certainly looked like Peterson was far behind in the coverage. 682 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: If you watch it on television and look at the replays, 683 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: he was right there. Yes, he beat himself up after that, 684 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: thinking he had cost his team the win, but that's 685 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: just a case of our guy was better than your guy. 686 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 1: For that single play, but we would be talking about 687 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: it here on this Monday in a much different conversation 688 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: under different circumstances. Yeah. I mean you're right, good coverage 689 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: and I always say those guys get paid too, and 690 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: you know they have a great connection. I still think 691 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: the new dynamic duo is Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkinson. 692 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, But you can certainly see the growth of 693 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: that Bill's team and on their hand, MJ. That's how 694 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 1: that team went into their bye week, loosing with two 695 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: seconds to go on the clock, and that can be 696 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: crushing for any team to now have to sit with 697 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: that for an extra two weeks. But I thoroughly enjoyed 698 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: the matchup, and I'll say it like I did last week, 699 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: It's a shame we've got to wait four years to 700 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: see Josh Allen and Kyler Murray match up because two 701 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,479 Speaker 1: of the better young quarterbacks, much like two a week ago. 702 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 1: Certainly would like to see these matchups more often. Everyone 703 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: benefits fans, players, coaches, teams and of course the National 704 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: Football League. When you have talented players matched up week 705 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: to week. You know, it's interesting playing against the AFC, 706 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, the East this year and you know watching 707 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, how about Cole Beasley. I mean, Murphy had 708 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: his work cut out there, especially in that slot, and 709 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: that can be a tough cover for anyone. And that's 710 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: where I think Diggs being on the field has certainly 711 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: opened up things for Beasley, There's no doubt. And I 712 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: tell you usually when it comes to that slot receiver, 713 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: they're savvy veterans. Julian Edelman, Cooper Cup, Cole Beasley. You know, 714 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: eventually Christian Kirk's going to be in that role. West 715 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: Love eleven catches for one hundred and nine yards for 716 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, including a touchdown as well. Who hadn't made 717 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: a nice little move on Patrick Peterson off the line 718 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Not sure if that was man or they 719 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: were playing zone coverage in that but certainly, again when 720 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: you have these mistakes, much easier MJ to do it 721 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: after a win, especially on a short week. Bird Gang 722 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: subscribed Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast, Stitcher, 723 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows on the go 724 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rags, The Cardinals Red 725 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: Sea Report, and of course this show Cardinals Cover two 726 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: Visit easy cardinals dot com Slash podcast for more information, 727 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, there were one hundred and eight 728 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: offensive plays run between the Cardinals and Bills on Sunday, 729 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight. Yet we are talking about 730 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: one play here on this victory Monday. And sometimes a 731 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: game comes down to one play. Yeah, a game of inches, 732 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: that's really what it was. I mean, Kyler Murray's getting 733 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: rushed out, throwing across his body, going to the left side. 734 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's gotta gotta make sure, you know, it 735 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get too close to the sidelines, and then what hopped. 736 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: It is the game of inches. I mean there was 737 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: an inch less than an inch one hit his highest 738 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: point or you know, to get that football. But what 739 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,959 Speaker 1: a savvy player thought to get bull hands on there, 740 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: like go to your highest peak and then extend and 741 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, three guys were over there 742 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 1: and he was still able to come down with it. Fascinating. 743 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I just look at those trades for both teams. 744 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: You know we're gonna look at you know, Bills give 745 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: up a first round pick and you know, different circumstances. Obviously, 746 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, when when Hopkins they knew he had three 747 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: years left on his contract and they're gonna reward up 748 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: with the new contract. What they have. What's impressing me 749 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: is the way Buddha, Baker and Hopkins has played in 750 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys. And you know what, they all got extensions, yep, 751 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: and they're all playing better after the extension. They were 752 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: rewarded for their work and now they're showing why they 753 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: deserved what they got. And yes, it's it's quite amazing 754 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: what DeAndre Hopkins is able to do. You know what, 755 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: it's also amazing. Before we exit here, Bird Gang got 756 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: to give a shout out Larry Fitzgerald. Not exactly sure 757 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: how many people have had a better twenty four hours 758 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,720 Speaker 1: than this man his day job. He gets a huge 759 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: win over the Buffalo Bills. And then for those that 760 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: don't know, he kind of moonlights on the side. He's 761 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: an investor in the Phoenix Suns and earlier on this Monday, 762 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: the Suns, according to reports, acquired future Hall of Fame 763 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: point guard Chris Paul. So Larry Fitzgerald's living a good 764 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: life here on November fifteenth and November sixteenth. Yeah, I 765 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: told him, you know that, you know, good things happen 766 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 1: to good people, and he said it's a good day 767 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: eight to be in the Valley of the Sun. Absolutely 768 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: echo that completely, one hundred percent. So I'm still gonna 769 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: enjoy this for a little while longer. M I don't 770 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: know about you, but maybe I'll go back and watch 771 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: that play one more time or several more times. Grant, 772 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be that. Do you think it's gonna be 773 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: the player of the year. I don't think there's a 774 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: question about it. What about the game of the year 775 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: still got you still got a lot of football to 776 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: be played there once you get through the bye week, 777 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: throughout sixteen games every week. I mean the Cardinals in 778 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: the first half, they wanted to say the Seattle Cardinals 779 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: game was one of the better games in the first half. 780 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be up for the play 781 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: of the year, and then I think it could be 782 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: the game of the year. Now again, when you start 783 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: playing for more chips and teams are playing for something, 784 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: it means a little bit more. But the Cardinals were 785 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: playing for something and that is first place, yep, and 786 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: a big one coming up on Thursday as far as 787 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: first place in the NFC West and will begin to 788 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: touch on Thursday Night Football tomorrow here on Cardinals Cover two. 789 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: And on that note, we'll put a lid on this 790 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner 791 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 792 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Momhandro or Mike Jarecki. I'm Greig Rayel 793 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: Lou will talk to you next time you're on Cardinals 794 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: cover two