1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First Date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at adjocusla dot com. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: Nicky is on the phone today for a first date 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Josh. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: if his house why is ghostinger and maybe get her 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: another date. But first, Nikki, how long has it been 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: since you heard from Josh. 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 3: It's been a few days now, Okay? 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 4: Is that really ghosting? Is that unusual? 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 5: Well? 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: I think so because he acted like he wanted to 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: see me again. 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: So I texted him and it's been I. 15 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: Don't know, maybe like four or five days without any response. 16 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Nikki, why don't you tell us about 17 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 4: how you met Josh and how the date went. 18 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, we met at this really cool cafe with like 19 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: old books and candles, and it was a really cool vibe, 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: like he seems to know a lot about places like that, 21 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: and it was a cool idea. And behind the books, 22 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: felst there was. 23 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: A speakeasy Oh cute, Oh that's cool. 24 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when I got there, he showed me that, 25 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: and so we went. 26 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: In there and it was kind of like a dark 27 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: room kind. 28 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Of romantic and like sort of eerie, but in a 29 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: sexy kind of way. 30 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: Sexy. 31 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun. It's like I'd never been to 32 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: a place quite like that. And at one point the 33 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: lights kind of flickered and Josh kind of leaned in 34 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and said, asked if I felt the energy shift? 35 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: Ergy shift? 36 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Okay? 37 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: Was that like now you know? 38 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: Well, he wanted to tell me this story about a 39 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: ghost that apparently has been haunting that building since prohibition 40 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: times and only reveals itself to people. 41 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: Who believe that's kind of cool. A ghost. 42 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a ghost, so he like it could 43 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: have been creepy, but it felt kind of exciting, like 44 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: he was making an effort and like putting on a 45 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: show for me. I kind of laughed and played along. 46 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: We had espresso martinis that were really good, and after 47 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: the he walked me to an uber and we were 48 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: hunging and kissing like no tongue but like still a 49 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: passionate kiss and kind of like you know, touching each other. 50 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: That's hot. 51 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 52 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: So I think he's exciting and interesting and so cute 53 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: and just like he's different from anyone I've ever met. 54 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: And I felt a really strong chemistry and I just 55 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: want more. 56 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: So why do you think he's ghosting? 57 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 6: Then? 58 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: If it sounds like you want pretty well. 59 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Well I think that he might be ghosting me because 60 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: I don't believe in ghosts. 61 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 4: Wait, so is that real to him? 62 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 5: Well? 63 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, And like sometimes guys get insulted, I 64 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: guess to be like, he felt like I was laughing. 65 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: But I told him after we kissed that, you know, 66 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: like that I didn't really believe in ghosts, but that 67 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: I had had a really fun time and I told 68 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: him that he was a great storyteller. 69 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: And then he asked if I believed. 70 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: In ghosts, and I said no, and then his tone 71 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: sort of changed. 72 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: But I didn't really think anything of it. 73 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 4: I don't know if why that would be worth ghosting 74 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: somebody over because the date sounded like it went really well, 75 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: So I don't know that feels that feels weird? 76 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. 77 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: I guess it's been more like I don't know, time 78 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: goes by so fast. I guess it's been more like 79 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: six or seven days, you know. But he told me 80 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: to text him when I got home, which was really sweet, 81 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: and I did, but there was no response. 82 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: And then he hasn't reached out since then? 83 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: What game is this guy playing? Does it kind of 84 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: feel like there's something weird? I don't know. Could he 85 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: just like be busy? That doesn't That doesn't feel right either. 86 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: What do you think, Nikki? 87 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: What is there any other things going through your head 88 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: on why it could be that he's ghosting you? 89 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: No? 90 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: I really can't think of anything. 91 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that, you know, I just thought 92 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: that we had a really good time and so, you know, 93 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: that's the That's the only thing I can think of. 94 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: I mean, the laughing at him might be an issue. 95 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it wasn't really laughing at him. I was 96 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: like laughing at the idea because like ghosts. 97 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: But I mean it's kind of like a kid thing, 98 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, just being honest, like I don't feel like 99 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm being haunted. 100 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: You know. 101 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, well we'll see if we can figure it 102 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: out for you. 103 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: We'll plus song come back and then call him and 104 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: see if Hotels why is ghosting you? Maybe get you 105 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: another date? Okay, Okay, thank you, Okay, well plays song 106 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: come back and get your first day follow up next 107 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of today's first date follow up. 108 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: If you're just joining us. NICKI is on the phone 109 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Josh, and 110 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: we're about to call him and see if hotel us. 111 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: Why is ghosting or real? First, NICKI, why don't you 112 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: catch us up on your situation? 113 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: Okay? 114 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Well, I went out on the state with this guy Josh, 115 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: like about. 116 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: A week ago, and we had a great time. 117 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: We had drinks and we went to this kind of 118 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: speakeasy place and he told me that, you know that 119 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: it's sort of haunted like by ghosts from the Prohibition era. 120 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: And I said, we had a great time, but I 121 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: did reveal later that I don't really believe it goes. 122 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe why he's not reaching out. 123 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, because you kids, and then you said 124 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: that and then he ghost you. Do you believe in ghosting? 125 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: Though? 126 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 127 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: All right, are you ready for us. 128 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: To call on? 129 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, thank you? 130 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: Yep, all right, here we go. Hello, Hi, may speak 131 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 4: to Josh. Please. This is hey Josh. How are you? 132 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show. 133 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: It's called the Jewbel Show. 134 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: Hi, Josh. Ar'mina also on the show him Victoria. Hello, 135 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: how's it going? 136 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 5: It's going greed. 137 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 4: H do you listen to the show ever? 138 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: Josh? 139 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay, that's fine. Well, Josh, we do a 140 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: segment on our show. It's called the first Date follow Up. 141 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: What that is is if you go out on a 142 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: date with's somebody and end up ghosting them, they can 143 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and ask 144 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: why you're ghosting. So we got an email about you 145 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: from somebody that you went out with. M Yes, okay, 146 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: any idea who would be? 147 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: Hm? 148 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 5: I maybe a Nikki? 149 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: It is a Nikki, and Nikki emailed us and told 150 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: us she had a really good time with you. But 151 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: she's confused and says you've been ghosting her for about 152 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: a week now. 153 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 5: Yes, I have. 154 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 4: Okay telling us why? 155 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 5: Well, honestly, she doesn't she doesn't believe believe in she 156 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 5: doesn't believe in ghosts. Okay, she doesn't believe in ghosts. 157 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: She doesn't believe in the spiritual world. She's not open. 158 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 5: I've been able to speak to ghosts, hear them, speak 159 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: to them since I was a child, and honestly, and 160 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: she just doesn't believe. She doesn't think it's real. 161 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 4: So well, why is that a problem for you? 162 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 5: Hm, because anyone and everyone can speak and hear ghosts. 163 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 5: As long as you open yourself, you can. 164 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: What does that have to do with dating her? 165 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: Because if how am I. 166 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: Supposed to open. 167 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 5: My soul my spirits myself to someone who doesn't believe? 168 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: Okay, so well that makes because it's about your need yea. 169 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 6: More well, it's about it's honestly, never honestly, it's. 170 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 7: About I never meant you like Maybe I wouldn't have 171 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 7: laughed about it if you explained it like that. 172 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: I didn't know that it was more serious for you. 173 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Now? 174 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: Could you not tell it was serious? I've been speaking 175 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 5: to ghosts all evening. You didn't think that was real? 176 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: I didn't really know that. I mean, you know, I'm 177 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: open minded. 178 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: It's just I I didn't know that you saw it 179 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: like this, or that you. 180 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 6: This is what I am, this is who I am? 181 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: Does that feel kind of rude? 182 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: I'm just speaking to a ghost. Is not speaking on 183 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: the phone to someone else. Relating what they're saying to 184 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 5: the other person who doesn't have the spiritual ability was exciting. Honestly, 185 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: I have taken so much time training women to interact 186 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: with ghosts. Yes, and honestly, I feel like they just 187 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 5: they do it and they do it and they try 188 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 5: and they never really actually speak to them. 189 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: Well, I want to try that. I think that sounds exciting. 190 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: I want to go back to the speak easy and 191 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: I want you to teach me about this. 192 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 3: Fascinating, fascinating, that's a good thing. 193 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 5: I'm open, you know, I'd like, why are you willing 194 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 5: to open yourself truly fully to the beyond? 195 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: I'll ask, Josh, would you like to go on another 196 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: date with Nikki? 197 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: Will pay for it? 198 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 5: H will M? I think we can as long as 199 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: you understand. I will guide you only as far you 200 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: do understand that this is this is a journey with us. 201 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: I do. 202 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: I understand this is a journey. Not necessarily, I mean, 203 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 5: it is a date, but it's a journey. 204 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: So I think that was a yes? 205 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: Is that an for another journey? 206 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 5: Yes, it is a yes. 207 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, hear that? 208 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, let us know how that goes to Nikki. You 209 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 4: got another date, Nikki? 210 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: We will have it. We will have a wonderful time. 211 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 6: There's there's a graveyard that I've just been. There's so many, 212 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 6: so many spirits there. 213 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 5: Honestly, it's a great it's a great crowd. 214 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: I would love to meet them. 215 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I have a great time. Let us know 216 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: how it goes. 217 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 5: Thank you and and and thank you and uh my 218 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: friend Jefferson he approves your choices. 219 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: Well tell him I said, thank you and have a 220 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: good one, Josh, you have a. 221 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: Wonderful Thank you. Guys, you will first date, follow up