1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: People on game Game. It presents conversations with e lecgend 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: best of Show and now here's LeVar Arrington. 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: You was you was ready? 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: No, no, I was ready to read. I was ready 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: to play football. But I think the realization of that 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 3: one percent, like when you're playing NFL. You bought it 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: at one percent? Now, where are you at in that 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: one percent? Are you at the bottom of that one percent, 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: in the middle of that one percent? It at the 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: top of that one percent. Well, I was just ready to, 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: you know, prove my worth. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: And that's what it was. 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: All right. 14 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: For those out there that don't know what Pee Valley is. 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Just look it up, all O. Look it up. But 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: it's a great segue. 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 5: I mean pe Valley, Viking, Viking boat, Viking boat Valley. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 5: I mean you was representing the ship in Minnesota. 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: But you know what, La, Let's be honest. You a 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: history guy. You love history. I know this about you. 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 6: You're sure. 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm a fan. 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: Check this out. Viking's been doing this since the early 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds. 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Like everything we did on that they've been doing since 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: the early seventeen hundred. I just got too much into character, 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: you know, what I'm saying, Fred the red I got 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: too much into character. And you know me, I'd like 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: to take my position seriously, they asked me, and I 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: give but. 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Did you did you really have no, don't really have. 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: A double purple. 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Listen, this is what happened. 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: You have a double purple? 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: No? 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: I was walking Can we get can we get the exclusive? 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Can you give me the exclusive? Here? What really happened? 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: And this is this is open for them, so you 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: ain't got a whole nothing back. This is open for him. 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: All right, give me the exclusive of the boat ride. 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: I was literally just walking past. I know what you're 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: bringing up, the whipping, the mass distruction. I was walking past, right, 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: and somebody said, Fred, could you hand me that weapon? 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: And I said, who am I to deny you? Who 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: am I? 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: I'm the one. 47 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: I take it, take it, take it. It's like the 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: Lord of the Rings. Once you had that ring over, 49 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: you know, hey, you do what you do. I let 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: it happen, little b I wasn't. 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: And then what I didn't know that I understand. I 52 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: was the new guy. 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: You know in Washington, how we hate guys, and you 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: got to take us to the steakhouse. 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: And then take us to the club. Ain't really nothing 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: else to it. 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: Well, when I got there as a veteran, they was like, no, 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: we take up money staring with the first rounders and 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: we throw a party. 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, that's fine. 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: We end up having two first rounders Troy when in 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: the rats mus James right, uh huh. When we took 63 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: up that party, it was like eighty plus thousand to 64 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: throw this one party, Like, yeah, we fly everybody in 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: and all land. 66 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, this unbelievable. 67 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: Brian McKenny, Brian mckennie, and that's not. 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: That's a horror. That is a horrible combination. Fred Smooth 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: and Brian McKinnon's a it's a horrible That is a horror. 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 4: That is a horrible recipe for mass destruction weapons all. 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 7: All over place. 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Listen, party animals. 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: Like I thought we partied in DC, but when I 74 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: made it to Minnesota, they had a whole another level. 75 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: Like nobody ever brings up the Twin Cities when it 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: comes to places to visit. I placed this fund. I'm 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: here to tell you the home of ten thousand Lakes. 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: Please take a visit there. It's a fun place to visit. 79 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: How many lakes. Did y'all hit out of the ten thousand. 80 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: I think I went nine thousand, one hundred. 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I think I did. 82 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: Was there anything else that happened on the boat? Can 83 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: you clear up anything else the boat? 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. 85 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 6: It was give me it was. 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: It was overrated it And that's what I want. That's 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: what I want to know. That's because that's that's that's 88 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: what happened. People blow stories up, they sensationalize the stories, 89 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: and then it goes from their boom. 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: And you, because of the personality you are, you're always 91 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: going to be the one that gets it. 92 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: You're always going to get the overblown story every time. 93 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: Every time. And like I said, I was the new guy. 94 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: I wasn't there but three months, for months before happens 95 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: like at the end of like at the end of 96 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: the day. 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Uh. If it happened in Miami, d C, New York, 98 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: l A. You never hear about that. 99 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: Nobody everybody the floating bachelor party, Like that's the whole 100 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: thing about it is normal people do it all the 101 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: time and nobody says anything. 102 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: But because it's young athlete, millionaire. 103 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 6: It was you. 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: It was you. Yeah, because it was you just say, 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: just keep it real. It's because it was you. 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: The mouth of the South. 107 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: Sometimes you talk your way into stuff, and anytime it's 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: some fun, exaggerated stuff, they gonna look at me. 109 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: And guess what. I laughed it off. 110 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: Then I laugh it off now, And I'll never forget 111 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: having a conversation with my with my agent, bus Cook, 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: he could hear it in my voice that I was 113 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: worried about it. He was like, son, don't worry about this. 114 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: Y'all didn't break no laws. They're gonna blow it up. 115 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: They're gonna make it disposal, but it's gonna make you infamous. 116 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: I understand it. They'll never forget you. They will never 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: forget you, So don't you worried about it. It's good 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: on both sides. 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be honest with you. 120 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: Man. 121 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 8: It's crazy to say this, but every single guy that 122 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 8: I grew up with that I was really really, really 123 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 8: really tight with either locked up, killed or not doing 124 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 8: anything with their life. 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 6: And you know what I'm saying, it's just me, you know. 126 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 8: And and every time I see them, every time I 127 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 8: talk to them, you know, when I go home or 128 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 8: I see them around, they be like, bro Damn. I 129 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 8: wish I just would have followed you. I wish I 130 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 8: would have just did this because some of these guys 131 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 8: was nice. 132 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: On the football field, probably better than that, you know 133 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, something that was better, Yeah, right there, 134 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: right there with you, but just couldn't couldn't. 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 8: Care, and they just they just couldn't. They mindset was different. 136 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 8: We want to, they want to, but I'm trying to 137 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 8: get some money. 138 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 7: How do you avoid that pitfall? 139 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: If you're giving advice to this Hart generation, because that's 140 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: what this is ultimately about. 141 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 7: How do you how do you avoid that? 142 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 8: It's hard, man, I say that the hardest thing to 143 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 8: do with somebody that you've known since you were four 144 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 8: years old all the way to eighteen. The hardest thing 145 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 8: to do to stay consistent with that is to say no, man, 146 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 8: because she's gonna be times where they want you to go. 147 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 8: And I'm not saying this is everybody, but my situation, 148 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 8: there was times where people wanted me to go smoke weed, 149 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 8: you know, go drink and get drunk, go to a party. 150 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 8: And as enticing as that is, of course, I want 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 8: to go party. You know what I'm saying, I'm sixteen, Yeah, 152 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 8: I can't do that. 153 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 6: I got it. I got something in mind. 154 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 8: I got a goal ahead of me that's gonna I'm 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 8: not going to fulfill this goal today tomorrow. This is 156 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 8: this long time time. You know what I'm saying, This 157 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 8: is far down the road. All these will come back 158 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 8: to hunt me. All these decisions will come back to 159 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 8: haunt me whenever I get to that point. And oh, well, 160 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 8: you was a party animal in high school. Because when 161 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 8: I did my interviews at the combine, they knew I 162 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 8: got suspended in middle school. They knew about all of this. 163 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 8: You know, oh lagar got to suspended for fighting in 164 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 8: middle school. They knew all about this. So and growing up, 165 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 8: you don't know that they know about that. You don't 166 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 8: know what they asking about all that stuff. But you 167 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 8: know that the older you get, you know that that 168 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 8: it's gonna be consequences to every decision that you make. 169 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, And I'm not saying I 170 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 8: made all the right ones, but I'm said I made 171 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 8: enough right ones to put myself in the position to 172 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 8: be here. 173 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 4: All right decisions sense we because no one can speak 174 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: on this better than you. I had the same I 175 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: had a similar incident play out for me that played 176 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: out with you when you was in college, but I 177 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: was in high school. So it actually ended up because 178 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 4: I stood on on my principal values. You're you're disciplining 179 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: me as if as if I'm the one that was 180 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: wrong in this scenario, when in reality, if you knew 181 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: what happened, what happened right, then you wouldn't be coming 182 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 4: at me that way. 183 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 7: And I was like, I'm not gonna play. 184 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 8: But at the same but at the same time, you felt, 185 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure you felt like if I tell my story, 186 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 8: they gonna make it seem like I'm making an excuse, right, 187 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 8: justify my actions. 188 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 6: Right, So you and you between the rock and the 189 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 6: hard place, just lose, lose for us. 190 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 7: So what happened? 191 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: So all right, So I'm this is gonna be my 192 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: first time ever ever like explaining the story. 193 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 7: Because this is this is like I've you. 194 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 8: Know what I mean, never explained the story. So okay, 195 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 8: we go back. We played them last year. The year 196 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 8: before we played them. They came to Oregon, they came 197 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 8: to Eugene. They beat us. They yeah, yeah, they came 198 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 8: to Eugene, they beat us. They hit my quarterback late 199 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 8: knocked them out. They hit my tight end late knocked 200 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 8: them out. So it's personal, now, you know what I'm saying. 201 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 8: And Sports Illustrated came to cover the game the next 202 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 8: year because we were gonna play in the first game 203 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 8: or the next season. And Sports Illustrated came and talked 204 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 8: to us this, that and the other, and they were 205 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 8: just like, so, what about last year's game. Yeah, yeah, 206 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 8: they they hit your quarterback, knocked them out. They didn't 207 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 8: get no flag for it. They didn't get no flag 208 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 8: for it. And I'm like, ship, we owe them ass whipoping. 209 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 8: So that's what we're planning on going out there doing. 210 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 8: We we whoop an ass. That's what we want to do. 211 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 8: And Sports Illustrated came out with the article boom, and 212 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 8: then we went out there and Uh, all we see 213 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 8: is we're gonna whoop they ass. Everywhere he posted whoop 214 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 8: they ass. We see that all over our locker everything. 215 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 8: So it's game time. Were bawling, all right. So fast forward, 216 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 8: We're done lost and at the end of the game, 217 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 8: I'm walking off the field, my head down, walking off 218 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 8: the field, I member it like it was just the 219 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 8: walking off the field, my head down. I'm like, damn, 220 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 8: they beat our ass. I ain't do shit. I'm kind 221 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 8: of tight, you know what I'm saying. Walking off, my 222 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 8: head down. I see this guy. I don't see him, 223 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 8: but I hear him talking to me. Hey, Hey, how 224 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 8: about that ass whooping? You said just gonna be the ass? 225 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 6: Right? 226 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 8: How about that ass? But I'm hearing him now, I 227 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 8: can't say nothing. My head down, I'm just like, what shit, 228 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 8: I gotta take that. You gotta take it is what 229 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 8: it is. And I'm walking. I hear him, but I'm 230 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 8: just keep on walking. And he get closer and closer 231 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 8: to me, and he get up to me and he 232 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 8: slapped my shoulder pads. 233 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 6: How about that ass whooping? And then the end word? Right? 234 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 8: This ain't about football no more? Yeah, officially you know, 235 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 8: made it about something else, you know what I'm saying that. 236 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 8: I don't know if your teammates cool, what you saying 237 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 8: this to them or whatever? Whatever, But not me, you 238 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. So I turned around, I punched him. 239 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: And it was quick. It wasn't like it was like 240 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: it was quick. That's all I knew. That's how I knew. 241 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: That's exactly what I what I was gonna do that. 242 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: Reaction's so growing up where I grew up at, my 243 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: grandma used to always tell me, she's not here, God 244 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: bless her soul, she's not here. 245 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 6: She used to always tell me. 246 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 8: Disrespects, spinning on you, touch your face, and don't never 247 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 8: let anyone call you that word. Those are the three 248 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 8: principles that you sit on when it comes to like 249 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 8: if you gotta fight or whatever, if you got to 250 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 8: stand your ground, those are the reasons. 251 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 6: And that was one of the reasons. 252 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 8: And the thing is is about it is people don't 253 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 8: evaluate that video when he said what he said to me. 254 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 8: If you see Chris Peterson, that's his head coach. If 255 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 8: people look at the video again, what he said, what 256 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 8: he said to me, Chris Peterson, we used to grab him, like, bro, 257 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 8: what the what you're doing? 258 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying? Like what? It was too late. 259 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 8: I had already turned around to hit him, you know 260 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 8: what I'm saying. But he had grabbed him before I before, 261 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 8: I like before, it was so fast. It was like 262 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 8: by bo bop, you know what I'm saying. Chris Peterson 263 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 8: Like no, you know what I'm saying. And it was 264 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 8: too late. So the next day, I called and kind 265 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 8: of talked to him about it. You know what I'm saying, 266 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 8: apologize even though I felt like I wasn't in the wrong. 267 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 268 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 8: My coach told me, you need to go out call 269 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 8: and apologize to make this right. 270 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 7: And I did. 271 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 272 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 8: And afterwards, you know, you got fans spitting on you. 273 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So I'm going into the 274 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 6: I'm headed to the locker room. 275 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 8: I done got hit with like three or four spits, 276 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 8: Like three or four spits, right, So, Bro, two out 277 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 8: of the three things that my grandma told me that 278 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 8: you that you got to stand your ground on just 279 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 8: happened to me in thirty seconds, you know what I'm saying. 280 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 8: So I'm trying to get to the fan, like, bro, Bro, 281 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, what y'all got 282 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 8: going on? Don't try to stop me? Stop them and 283 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 8: this and you you got to see the whole video. 284 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 8: And then I'm trying to get past them. And I 285 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 8: get up to the crowd. The guy come out of 286 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 8: the stands and slap me. No, nobody, nobody ain't talking. 287 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 6: I just want you. 288 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 7: I wanted you to. 289 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: Give your account of it, because I know, after all 290 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: these years, you know, a lot of times people draw 291 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: their own conclusions. 292 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 7: So I wanted you to give your side of it. 293 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: And because us who watched it and have lived it 294 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: knew exactly what it was, right, Like, it's not even up, like, 295 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: it's not even something you need to debate, right, we 296 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: know what it is exactly. So, and the guy came. 297 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: The guy came from the stands. 298 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 8: When I got to the stands, the guy came out 299 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 8: of the stands, bro, and full long slapped me, bro, 300 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 8: slap me in the fright. And so I was I'm like, bro, 301 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 8: that's three that's all three things that could have possibly 302 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 8: gone wrong. And my grandma eyes and y'all expect me 303 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 8: not to retaliate. Y'all just expect me to just things 304 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 8: get real, And it's real in the field, right. 305 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: It's a respect thing, for certain, And I'm glad that 306 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: that you talked about it, because that's something that you 307 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 4: know as it applies to you. 308 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 7: You know, you lived it. 309 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: Everybody knew it and respected the fact that in a 310 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 4: bad moment you made a positive out of it. 311 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 7: You as you. 312 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: Mentioned, because that connects to where you came from and 313 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: the things that you overcome and where you said you 314 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: want to go. So to me, I felt like for 315 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: all those things to correlate that with that moment, we 316 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: just redefined and re shaped that whole entire situation. That's 317 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: what we just did. Right now, Sir, I got my 318 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 4: man Tim couch with me. Bro, I'm excited to do 319 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: this one all right, now, you're a competitor and that 320 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: at that moment, my respect level was like okay, like 321 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: he's I mean, you got we We live in an 322 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: age now where if a guy is in your position, 323 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: they're opting out of that game, right. 324 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: Sure they won't even play in that game. 325 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, And you know, I knew it was my last game, 326 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 9: and but you know, I wanted to go out with 327 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 9: my teammates, you know, we I'd been through the process 328 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 9: with him, you know, Coach Mummy getting there my sophomore 329 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 9: year and so that that was my junior year, and 330 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 9: I knew kind of like, you know, we had built 331 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 9: this scene, we'd kind of created this air raid offense 332 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 9: and everybody was talking about and I wanted to go out, 333 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 9: you know, my last game. 334 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 6: I wanted to win a bowl game. 335 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 9: And beat you know, Penn State and legendary Joe Paterno, 336 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 9: and you know, win a game like that. So there 337 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 9: was no thought of not playing, even though I knew 338 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 9: it was gonna be a physical game against you guys. 339 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 9: I was out there trying to play and compete like 340 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 9: it was, you know, like it's gonna be my last game. 341 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 6: So you competed. 342 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 9: The thing I remember about you the most, man, is, 343 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 9: you know, I played against some pretty intimidating players, and 344 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 9: you know, ray Lewis would be up there when I 345 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 9: got to the NFL. There you and ray Lewis were 346 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 9: the two most intimidating guys that I've ever played against. 347 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 9: Something about LeVar Man when he was out there, that 348 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 9: number eleven and those eyes and that intensity, the speed 349 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 9: and the power and the athleticism this guy played with 350 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 9: was was just unbelievable, man, And. 351 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 7: You were I'm humble. 352 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, you know you're number two picking the 353 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 9: draft for was you? You were a phenomenal football player 354 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 9: and certainly one of the best defenders I've ever played. 355 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I appreciate that. 356 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: All right. 357 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned ray Lewis. You go number one into 358 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: the AFC North. Yeah, I can relate to what you 359 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: went through. A lot of people can't relate to going 360 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: into a scenario which Cleveland continues to be that and 361 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: Washington continues to be that type of dysfunctional organization. Coming out, 362 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: it's exciting to want to be a top draft pick, 363 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: to be the number one draft pick, but with that 364 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: blessing there comes a curse talk a little bit about, 365 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: because it's it's almost disheartening to think about when guys 366 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: that are as talented as you were and had so 367 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: much potential to be a Hall of Famer at that level. 368 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: End up at a dysfunctional organization. 369 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's unfortunate. Like you said, you know, you're 370 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 9: your top pick, but that means you're going to the 371 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 9: worst team. And for me, it was even harder that 372 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 9: year because the Browns were an expansion team, you know, 373 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 9: they just came back in the league. They left in 374 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 9: ninety six, became the Baltimore Raders, and then in nineteen 375 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 9: ninety nine they come back. So I was the first 376 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 9: player ever drafted in the new Browns franchise. So literally 377 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 9: starting from the ground up with this organization, you know, 378 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 9: and like you said, labar Man, when you go in 379 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 9: all you can hear is number one pick, and of 380 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 9: course I want to be the number one picking the draft. 381 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 9: You're not thinking about how tough the road's going to be, 382 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 9: of being a quarterback on an expansion team and that 383 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 9: kind of thing. But it hit me pretty quickly the 384 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 9: reality of how tough that was going to be. You know, 385 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 9: my rookie year, I got sacked fifty six times in 386 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 9: fifteen starts, you know, which was an NFL record at 387 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 9: the time, and it was just so it was a 388 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 9: beating physically, but it also takes a toll on you mentally, 389 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 9: you know, because at that point I had never dealt 390 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 9: with failure. Coming out of high school. I was a 391 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 9: number one recruit in the country, you know, National Player 392 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 9: of the Year. And I get to college and I'm 393 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 9: a first team All American and a Heisman Trophy finalist 394 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 9: and the number one picking the draft. So I'd never 395 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 9: faced adversity necessarily on the field, and now all of 396 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 9: a sudden, I'm getting, you know, beat to death. I'm 397 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 9: not winning games, I'm not putting up the numbers and 398 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 9: I'm used to putting up and then you start questioning yourself, 399 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 9: you know, hey, is it me can I not play 400 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 9: at this level, But you know it's at that level 401 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 9: for a quarterback especially, it's all about the talent around 402 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 9: you how successful you can be, because you know, everyone 403 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 9: in the NFL is a is a really good football player. 404 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 9: And if you put the right pieces around him, with 405 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 9: the right system, the right staff, you know, the running game, 406 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 9: the wide receivers, obviously, the offensive line, the guy can 407 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 9: be pretty successful. But you know, if you don't, you 408 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 9: can ruin a really good player's career. And you know 409 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 9: we've seen it. You know, David Carr went through the 410 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 9: same situation as I did, and expansion team in Houston. 411 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 9: It was a great player and he never lived up 412 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 9: to his potential because of you know, his surroundings, and 413 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 9: you know we've seen it many other times many other players. 414 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 9: But you know, it's just unfortunate. But you know, I 415 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 9: don't think I would trade that experience, just because you know, 416 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 9: it's it's such an honor to be a number one 417 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 9: pick in the draft and you know, something I can 418 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 9: be proud of. But it was a rough road. But 419 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 9: you know, we did make the playoffs my my fourth 420 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 9: year there, and it was the only time the Bran 421 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 9: has been to the playoffs until a couple of years ago, 422 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 9: so it is about twenty year gap in there. So 423 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 9: I was kind of really proud of where we're able 424 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 9: to kind of build that thing up to in a 425 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 9: short period of time. But it was a rough road. 426 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 4: Man, when you're as fierce a competitor as you were 427 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 4: and you had so much success. What was what were 428 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: some of your biggest challenges? You talk about getting getting 429 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: through it as an expansion team and different things like that, 430 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: and you said the emotional part. I know, for me, 431 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 4: the biggest challenge was to still believe that you could win. Yeah, 432 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: that was like my biggest challenge, like emotionally and mentally, 433 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: even preparing physically. It's like this is the game, or 434 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: this is the week, this is the year. And by 435 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 4: the time you get to year three and you're a vet, 436 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 4: it's like you're sitting in the locker room and it's like, 437 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: this shit ain't gonna get any better, right, It's not 438 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: how is it going to get better? 439 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 7: What was like? 440 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: How was it for you? 441 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 4: Because for a linebacker, it's like, I'm a linebacker, like 442 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 4: we might lose, but I know this, I'm knocking somebody 443 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: hell out the right, right, like I come out this game, somebody, 444 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: somebody's going to sleep because of me. And when loser draw, 445 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 4: I know, I gave it this and you saw it, 446 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 4: and he experienced it and I touched his life too. 447 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 4: I hate we lost, but all I can do is 448 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: what I can do. How does a quarterback at the 449 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 4: most important position, the number one guy, Because if it's 450 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: not Super Bowl, if it's not playoffs, it's automatically your bus, automaticallytical. 451 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 7: They're already like I was called a bus. 452 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 4: I made three Pro Bowls. I'm still called a bus. 453 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: We're called we're being called bus. But you're a quarterback. 454 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 4: That pressure level is different. How Like, what were some 455 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: of the things you had to to deal with in 456 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: order to be able to try to still thrive in 457 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: that type of environment. 458 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's a good question. 459 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 9: You know, I think you know, when you come in 460 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 9: as a number one pick, there's so many expectations on 461 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 9: you immediately, you know, from your from your fans, from 462 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 9: the media, even your own teammates. You know, your teammates 463 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 9: you're sitting in the locker room like, hey man, you're 464 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 9: the number one pick. We're counting on you. You got to 465 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 9: go win. These games for us, you know, get us 466 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 9: over the hump, you know, kind of get us going. 467 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 9: So that's a lot of pressure room. And I was 468 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 9: only twenty years old when I went to the NFL 469 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 9: y'all turn twenty one in training camp that year, So 470 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 9: I was a young kid out there. Man, You're in 471 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 9: the huddle with guys that are, you know, thirty years 472 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 9: old for ten years, got families and stuff, and it's 473 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 9: a it's a big difference in being in a in 474 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 9: a college huddle. Uh So you feel a lot of responsibility, 475 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 9: a lot of expectations, and you know, like I said, 476 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 9: the mental part was tougher on me than the physical part. 477 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 9: You know, I was always a you know, a big guy, 478 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 9: physical guy could take the hits, but you know the 479 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 9: mental part where you're just losing games week after week 480 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 9: after week, and you know, you're just like, damn, what 481 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 9: I gotta do to win a game? Because I'm like, 482 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 9: you know, I'm kind of I'm playing well, but you know, 483 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 9: we're still not winning. It's always a you know, a 484 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 9: player or two here or there, and we just can't 485 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 9: just can't find a way to win games. And you 486 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 9: know how tough it is to win a game in 487 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 9: the NFL, it's the difference in winning and losing. Is 488 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 9: is like that, So you know, you start questioning yourself. 489 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 9: You start questioning, you know, Kylie, can I even make 490 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 9: it here? Do I want to even be here? All 491 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 9: those thoughts come in your mind. 492 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: Uh, you know. 493 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, I think as 494 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 9: a quarterback, you just put your head down and say, 495 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 9: I gotta I just gotta keep working. I gotta keep 496 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 9: working harder. Man, I gotta keep believing in myself because 497 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 9: you know that you have to have the ultimate confidence 498 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 9: at that position, because you know it's people. The media 499 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 9: is going to be crushing you. They're gonna be writing 500 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 9: stories about you each and every week, good or bad. 501 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 9: So you have to have that belief in yourself that 502 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 9: that you know you can play at that level and 503 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 9: you can get it done. And that was probably the 504 00:22:52,119 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 9: toughest part.