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Speaker 1: Broadcast tinging from number of stades Mancave. It's Dan Patch Ray.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. It's our two Dan and the
Speaker 1: Dane's Dan Patrick Show. Will check in with Paul Feinbaum,
Speaker 1: he has spend college football analyst and great radio host
Speaker 1: Voice of the SEC. We'll talk about two A Tongaviolo's
Speaker 1: decision to go pro, which I understand. I'm just not
Speaker 1: sure if I'm ready to risk a top five pick
Speaker 1: on two of and that's the same, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel this way like Joe burrow Is has been great.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how that translates to the NFL.
Speaker 1: And some really really smart football people have been on
Speaker 1: this show and told me how great he is going
Speaker 1: to be. Rick Neuheisel, who is as smart as anybody
Speaker 1: on that position and that topic, said that he looks
Speaker 1: like a more athletic Tom Brady. I mean that's somebody
Speaker 1: who has no doubts about Joe Burrow, but you know,
Speaker 1: maybe going to the Cincinnati Bengals will change a little
Speaker 1: bit of that. And then Tuah, if he goes to
Speaker 1: the Dolphins or the Chargers or maybe the Raiders. You know,
Speaker 1: he got Herbert from Oregon, who I'm still not sold on.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of talent, but he
Speaker 1: might be this year's Josh Allen. Yes, mclovin, but he's
Speaker 1: tall with a huge army. You know, even with the
Speaker 1: episodes on Short Guys, that's Josh Allen. So in seven,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I see what people and
Speaker 1: scouts and GM's coaches fell in love with With Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: There's a fascination there of what he could be. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he ever gets there, but there is
Speaker 1: that fascination that we love potential and Tah, it would
Speaker 1: concern me because I just don't know if the injuries
Speaker 1: are reoccurring. I don't know if he's going to have
Speaker 1: trouble throughout his career if arthritis sets him. Look at
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley, I mean he was Brandon Roy
Speaker 1: with the Portland Trailblazers. Like these guys started off and
Speaker 1: you're going, oh my god, these guys are unbelievable. I
Speaker 1: mean Zion. We don't know about Zion Williamson. I think
Speaker 1: is the third heaviest player in the NBA, and he's
Speaker 1: not going to get smaller. And that's why I would
Speaker 1: not have him come back and play this year. He
Speaker 1: may one two. I would not have him come back
Speaker 1: and play this year. It would be just welcome to
Speaker 1: the NBA. Get acclimated, get used to travel, being around
Speaker 1: the team, rehab, get ready for next year because I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to be. And this is
Speaker 1: his plant leg when he goes up to dunk, and
Speaker 1: that's what his game is centered around. But you know,
Speaker 1: just these injuries and trying to figure that out. And
Speaker 1: they're young athletes too. I don't know what Zion's going
Speaker 1: to be. I don't know what you know, to a
Speaker 1: tongue of elo is going to be. But if he
Speaker 1: is a smart football player and he patterns him self
Speaker 1: after Russell Wilson, then I think that you know, he
Speaker 1: could be a very very productive quarterback. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's a great quarterback, but I think he's certainly
Speaker 1: somebody you'd want as the face of your franchise. I
Speaker 1: do believe that, and I hope that he's able to
Speaker 1: recover fully from it. And judging from the interviews yesterday,
Speaker 1: it sounds like he thinks he is. Here's two talking
Speaker 1: about the injury and how they're viewing this as sort
Speaker 1: of a knee injury, not a hip injury. A lot
Speaker 1: of the guys, you know, the general managers, the owners
Speaker 1: that I've got to talk to, said the same thing,
Speaker 1: and they kind of look at this injury as like
Speaker 1: a knee injury almost, although it's not, you know in
Speaker 1: a way that Okay, we're going to take a chance
Speaker 1: on this guy, or would he be able to possibly
Speaker 1: do a pro day before the draft and whatnot. And
Speaker 1: really the biggest thing they want to do is just
Speaker 1: see that we can, you know, move and we can
Speaker 1: just be back to how we were playing prior to
Speaker 1: the injury. It's like a knee injury, but it's not
Speaker 1: like an injury. It's a hip injury, and it's tricky.
Speaker 1: And the only other athlete we look at with a
Speaker 1: hip injury is Bo Jackson. Where you go, oh, and
Speaker 1: that didn't end well, but can he have a pro day?
Speaker 1: This is where the scouts, the gms, they want to
Speaker 1: see the medical records on you. That's why the combine.
Speaker 1: I don't drive too much out of it because you'll
Speaker 1: be like, this guy ran a four to three. Okay,
Speaker 1: can he play? This guy bench press twenty seven times?
Speaker 1: Can he play? The scouts will tell you they love
Speaker 1: seeing the medical records at the combine. That's really, really,
Speaker 1: really important, and the interviewing process is really important as well.
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Speaker 1: morning to our great radio affiliates around the country, numbering
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty two. We have breaking news. We
Speaker 1: played the breaking news game yesterday at this time and
Speaker 1: this was the Dallas Cowboys and Mike McCarthy. Paulie says,
Speaker 1: we're ready to play the breaking news game again. Man, Dan,
Speaker 1: I want you to finish. A following statement reported by
Speaker 1: Pete Famil of Yahoo Sports okay sources, Okay. Baylor head
Speaker 1: coach Matt Rule the New York Giants is finalizing a
Speaker 1: deal to be the next head coach of the New
Speaker 1: York Giants. Would anyone else like to guess. Let's say
Speaker 1: Brown sources Baylor head coach, former head coach Matt Rule
Speaker 1: is finalizing a deal to become the next head coach
Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panther. The report is from Famil and others.
Speaker 1: Wow that he has scheduled to be in Carolina today,
Speaker 1: New York tomorrow, and Carolina didn't let him out of
Speaker 1: the building without the job. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: an analytics guy mclub, and but I know that new
Speaker 1: owner in Carolina was obsessed with somebody coming in who
Speaker 1: was an analytics guy. Yeah. I think he's down with
Speaker 1: the analytics. Okay, man, what a loss for the giants.
Speaker 1: You know, a source told me about because we were
Speaker 1: looking at Lincoln Riley, urban Meyer and Matt Rule like
Speaker 1: those were the guy the college guys that might get jobs.
Speaker 1: This source of mind loves Matt Rule, loves him over
Speaker 1: the other two. He said not even close, and I went, goah, really,
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, Matt Rule. He thought he thinks he's
Speaker 1: ticketed for stardom in the NFL. Yes, Matt Rule was
Speaker 1: a Temple of Course and then Baylor, but he had
Speaker 1: one year in the NFL twenty twelve. He was a
Speaker 1: New York Giants assistant offensive line coach, and he went
Speaker 1: to Temple Baylor and now the Carolina pan Y big
Speaker 1: DP sho fan. I've heard from many people, well he
Speaker 1: will be now after what I just said about him.
Speaker 1: But by the way, a lot of people say that
Speaker 1: who you'd never know if it's I hope it's real.
Speaker 1: But this source said, play calling fearless, you know, like
Speaker 1: he talked about him in glowing like you would have
Speaker 1: thought he was talking about Lombardi or something. It was
Speaker 1: just glowing praise. Here. We spent a good portion of
Speaker 1: the first hour talking about Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: and love at First Sight, which I've seen, you know,
Speaker 1: probably most of Mike McCarthy's press conferences, and I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine him being that charismatic where he's gonna walk
Speaker 1: in and Jerry goes, I'm in love. What did What
Speaker 1: did Mike McCarthy say? And Mike McCarthy you'll notice and
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you didn't notice this, Peter King, did Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy a solid man? Because Peter profiled Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: you forgot about Mike McCarthy and you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I try Mike McCarthy, like, he had a pretty decent
Speaker 1: decade there in Green Bay, and Peter did a profile
Speaker 1: on him and in Mike McCarthy was strategic in mentioning,
Speaker 1: you know, embracing analytics, and I think that that helped
Speaker 1: him get the Dallas Countboys job. I really do, because
Speaker 1: I thought Mike McCarthy was going to the Browns. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that Dallas was going to go this fall
Speaker 1: in love. It's quick. They just got divorced and then
Speaker 1: so that's like you get divorced after ten years and
Speaker 1: then you get married, like you go to Vegas for
Speaker 1: a honeymoon. Like that's it. I'm getting divorced. We're finally
Speaker 1: going to get it, get divorced, and I'm getting married
Speaker 1: tomorrow because i just had somebody sleep over at my
Speaker 1: house and I'm in love. Yes, I didn't realize he
Speaker 1: was in a bunker studying all these games and plays
Speaker 1: and breaking down all this video all these months, waiting
Speaker 1: for his next gig. So I'm sure that had to
Speaker 1: have impressed him to Mike McCarthy brings postseason pedigree to
Speaker 1: the job in Dallas, got a Super Bowl, ten career
Speaker 1: playoff wins, that's tied for second in the NFL since
Speaker 1: he took over as the Packers head coach in two
Speaker 1: thousand and six. So Belichick has twenty. Then it's Pete Carroll,
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and Mike McCarthy. Teams with the fewest postseason
Speaker 1: wins since two thousand and six, when McCarthy took over
Speaker 1: the Packers the Bills, Bengals, Lines, Dolphins, Raiders, Buccaneers, Redskins
Speaker 1: zero wins, Chiefs, Rams, Titans two wins, Bears, Cowboys, Jags, Panthers,
Speaker 1: Vikings three wins. Over that spin a couple other things.
Speaker 1: I was talking to a source yesterday about the whole
Speaker 1: Brady situation because I thought, because he listens to the show,
Speaker 1: so he says, you know, you think Tom's going to
Speaker 1: stay there or retire, And I go, I just get
Speaker 1: that feeling that maybe Tom wants to put it out
Speaker 1: there that hey, I can go elsewhere. And he said,
Speaker 1: you're making a big mistake here. I go, Okay, what's
Speaker 1: the big mistake? Belichick is coldhearted, He's not sentimental. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care about a scrap book. He wants to move on.
Speaker 1: If he decides to move on, he's gonna move on.
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft will have the scrap book. He'll be emotional,
Speaker 1: he'll be sentimental. This is Bill Belichick's call. And he
Speaker 1: goes he said, I'm listening to what he had to
Speaker 1: say after the game, and I think he knows. Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick has seen enough of Tom and wants to move on.
Speaker 1: And I go, how could you tell that? He goes
Speaker 1: Tom real and like there was almost this yep, I
Speaker 1: get it. It's over, like almost this resignation, and I went, wow, okay,
Speaker 1: but not by his choice. This is Belichick. If Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's not back with the Patriots. Now, Brady may say
Speaker 1: I don't want to come back, and I know that
Speaker 1: there's quotes that he didn't have fun this year. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you unless you win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have fun playing for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: I think it's a job. You go in and you play,
Speaker 1: you get paid, and then that's hit. You win a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Great, it was fun. This couldn't have been
Speaker 1: a fun year for him, obviously, But I was told
Speaker 1: Belichick is cutthroat, cold hearted and is not sentiment. And
Speaker 1: I go back to the interview I did with Brady
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, and
Speaker 1: I said, do you think that you'll ever get together
Speaker 1: with Bill and Reminisce And he goes, no, he couldn't
Speaker 1: give you a fake hand. No, like it was. It
Speaker 1: was such a great answer because he's like, no, I
Speaker 1: can't see us doing that. Even when Belichick and Parcels
Speaker 1: got down to got together to do that special the
Speaker 1: two Bills, it was so awkward, like they were in
Speaker 1: the same room, but it looked like they were million
Speaker 1: miles apart from each other there. So that was just
Speaker 1: what I learned yesterday about Tuah and how you know
Speaker 1: at least one scout was looking at Tah and wants
Speaker 1: to see the medical records. And then the Brady situation
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, I still go back to a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. It always felt like Belichick wanted to
Speaker 1: keep Jimmy Garoppolo for just this reason and didn't want
Speaker 1: him traded, and that the trade was done by Robert
Speaker 1: Kraft to get this guy out of there. Well, I
Speaker 1: go back, and I know Tom Cern will probably disagree
Speaker 1: with me, a great reporter for the Patriots, but I
Speaker 1: was told Mom went to Craft and said, you got
Speaker 1: to make a decision here you know me or Garoppolo
Speaker 1: and Bill. Bill wanted Groppolo. I mean, that's why he
Speaker 1: handpicked the team to send him to. Remember, he was
Speaker 1: going to go to Cleveland, or we thought he was
Speaker 1: going to go to Cleveland, and then he wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure he was going to go to a team
Speaker 1: with a good head coach or offensive coordinator. And that's
Speaker 1: why he handpicked the forty nine ers. Yeah. Time Now,
Speaker 1: even if Tom Brady deep down wants to leave, how
Speaker 1: important is it for him to make it look at
Speaker 1: some way, somehow that he was forced out just from
Speaker 1: his legacy and for the fans that he wants to
Speaker 1: sound like Belichick didn't want him as opposed to he
Speaker 1: wanted to get a fresh start. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: a valid point. I don't, but I don't know if Tom.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess the Patriots fans know what Belichick is
Speaker 1: capable of doing. Yeah, I don't know how sentimental he is.
Speaker 1: I mean he said he let everybody go. When you
Speaker 1: think about it, just about everybody. He was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: in that situation, you can't have emotion. You can't. Now
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft's gonna have emotion because he's the owner and
Speaker 1: what Tom Brady gave to him. Belichick probably think somebody
Speaker 1: else would have given this to me if you didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I look at a team like the New
Speaker 1: York Giants, and they were emotional by keeping Eli a
Speaker 1: season longer and draft in sae Quon Barkley instead of saying,
Speaker 1: we know the future is not at all Eli manning
Speaker 1: near or long term. Let's pull the bandit off now
Speaker 1: and grab Sam Darnold and move on with it. But
Speaker 1: they were like, you know what he's done so much
Speaker 1: of the franchise, super have a parade from him in
Speaker 1: the squad pack and look at Jerry Jones that he was.
Speaker 1: He treated Jason Garrett as his son and much to
Speaker 1: the detriment of that franchise. There at some point you
Speaker 1: gotta be cold, cold blooded. Yes, yeah, but doesn't Tom
Speaker 1: Brady give him the best chance to win by a
Speaker 1: mile next year? That's what I don't quite understand. I
Speaker 1: don't see anybody. I don't see anybody who's even closed.
Speaker 1: But if you had Jimmy Garoppolo still there right, No,
Speaker 1: But now when you want to do you want to
Speaker 1: spend because Tom doesn't want to give you a discount,
Speaker 1: and he's he looked his age this year, like like
Speaker 1: he beats father time. But father time is undefeated. Like
Speaker 1: he was, he had beat it for a little while,
Speaker 1: longer than any other quarterback has ever beaten Father Time.
Speaker 1: But you know, you can't sit there and go, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he needs offensive weapons. When they did have
Speaker 1: some weapons, could they use more? I've never met a
Speaker 1: quarterback who goes, man, I'm full, I don't need any
Speaker 1: more offensive weapons. I don't know if Tom goes, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm want to stick it to you. Hey, I can
Speaker 1: go to the Chargers. They got a lot of weapons there.
Speaker 1: I'll show you what. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how Ego plays into this, but I did think and
Speaker 1: still think that he will stay with the Patriots for
Speaker 1: one more year or he'll retire. Yeah, when they had weapons, though,
Speaker 1: pretty sure they went six and oh, I mean they
Speaker 1: started the season off pretty well. I don't know who
Speaker 1: their weapons are exactly. That's exactly the point that they
Speaker 1: show all of their weapons fell off as the year progressed. Right,
Speaker 1: Nobody saw Antonio Brown that happening, But man, they looked
Speaker 1: pretty good when he was on the field that but
Speaker 1: That's why you realize how desperate they were to keep
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. They know he's not a good guy, but Brady,
Speaker 1: you know, said to Robert Kraft, look, I want to
Speaker 1: keep him, and I think Belichick did too, because they
Speaker 1: knew they the cupboard was bare, they didn't have any weapons,
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Gordon, I mean they took a chance
Speaker 1: on him and then Antonio Brown. You know, then it
Speaker 1: felt like that they were going to take another chance
Speaker 1: on Antonio Brown. Yeah. Point, I'm going back to I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the coverage. There's there's stories out there the
Speaker 1: Giants could kick the tires on Jason Garrett. Mike Floria
Speaker 1: and others are reporting that no, that he was one
Speaker 1: of the people they were considering interviewing, which is a
Speaker 1: long way from hiring. Yes, but I think that they
Speaker 1: liked him a while ago, and that this is ownership
Speaker 1: because Dave Gelman is in there still is the GM.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he thinks of Jason Garrett. But
Speaker 1: do you bring in Jason Garrett? You know, do you
Speaker 1: need Jason Garrett to beat the Cowboys? Do you want
Speaker 1: to get away from four and twelve and get to
Speaker 1: a nice couple of eight and eight seasons to calm
Speaker 1: things down. Didn't they almost hire him at well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so, like he was it like it was
Speaker 1: just him and maybe Coughlin or so. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what the transition was. I don't know. I'd have to
Speaker 1: go back and look, but I do think the Giants
Speaker 1: were close to hiring him many many years ago. I
Speaker 1: also wonder about this with Mike McCarthy when he was
Speaker 1: in green Bay. I think green Bay threw the ball
Speaker 1: more than anybody. Now he's in Dallas. Is Dallas going
Speaker 1: to be this passing offense? It felt like they were
Speaker 1: this year, and it felt like at least people thought
Speaker 1: they got off track because they weren't the same Dallas
Speaker 1: team that ran first set up play action. And you know,
Speaker 1: now it's dak is going to be the guy we're
Speaker 1: gonna load up and go into battle with. And I
Speaker 1: so I wonder about that with Mike McCarthy. What does
Speaker 1: what does the analytics say what he wants to do
Speaker 1: with that offense there? Because that you're bringing him in
Speaker 1: because he's an offensive minded guy. Although I do have
Speaker 1: to factor in what Aaron Rodgers said about him, where
Speaker 1: he talked about his low football IQ, and I just don't.
Speaker 1: It just seems like they fell in love really really
Speaker 1: fast with Mike McCarthy, Like that would have been one
Speaker 1: where if you said, two weeks from now they hired
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, then I'd go, Okay, you did your due diligence.
Speaker 1: This guy hadn't coached, and now you bring him in,
Speaker 1: he embraces analytics, and then you fall in love with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mcloving remember when he first came in and he rejuvenated
Speaker 1: FARV really quickly. FARV was going down fast. Yeah, Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy was a cutting edge genius. Then he did with
Speaker 1: Rogers like this guy is on top of it. Then
Speaker 1: how did he become so passe so quickly? He really did.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Aaron Rodgers neutered him like it
Speaker 1: to the point where Aaron just said, look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call the places here, or I'm not going to run
Speaker 1: the plays that you want to run. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it felt like he was emasculated there a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm also curious, you know, the Panthers hired Matt Rule
Speaker 1: as their new head coach. What does that mean for
Speaker 1: Cam Newton? Is he getting a fresh start, somebody's going
Speaker 1: to take a chance on Cam Newton, and that could
Speaker 1: be a really, you know, interesting chance, a great chance.
Speaker 1: I would take a chance on Cam Newton if I'm
Speaker 1: one of these teams. Let's say New England, just throw
Speaker 1: that out there, New England. Would New England be interested
Speaker 1: in Cam Newton? Would the Chargers be interested in Cam Newton?
Speaker 1: Are the Raiders gonna move on? Like, you have the
Speaker 1: draft and then you have a couple of quarterbacks here
Speaker 1: that you still have to factor in. Yeah. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you look at the draft order, since they number one
Speaker 1: takes Joe Burrow Miami at five at the quarterback, the
Speaker 1: Chargers at six are definitely in play for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Caroline at seven definitely played for quarterback. Then Jacksonville is
Speaker 1: nine and has a few first round draft picks, so
Speaker 1: it could get saucy after the first four picks. But
Speaker 1: if I'm the Giants, I'm open for business to trade,
Speaker 1: because if the Chargers want to leap Prague and you
Speaker 1: and you decide that you want your pick of Herbert
Speaker 1: or Tua and you move up there, that would be
Speaker 1: because Washington has their quarterback, or at least they think
Speaker 1: they do, and Cincinnati's gonna get their quarterback. Detroit is
Speaker 1: in there. They got their quarterback. So does somebody want
Speaker 1: that fourth spot? And in that fourth spot they can
Speaker 1: decide on ta Is somebody gonna leap Prague the dolphinser
Speaker 1: would the Chargers do? That? Would Carolina do? Then that'll
Speaker 1: be interesting. Yeah a club. It could be the best
Speaker 1: free agent quarterback class in the history of the league
Speaker 1: without even a close second. I mean, you could have
Speaker 1: three Hall of Famers changing teams. Possibly, I mean I
Speaker 1: doubt it. But Breeze, Breeze, eighty Cam Yeah, I gat Breeze.
Speaker 1: So he's New Orleans. I can't see him planing elsewhere Rivers.
Speaker 1: If if Sean Payton went elsewhere, then I could see
Speaker 1: Breeze maybe, but Sean or you know, Drew Breese is
Speaker 1: New Orleans also Rivers and Eli, so it could be fine.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I can't take a chance on
Speaker 1: Rivers and going back to Carolina, I knows from Alabama.
Speaker 1: But all right, we'll take a break here. Paul Feinbaum
Speaker 1: will join us, get his thoughts on Tua and what
Speaker 1: he expects out of Tua as a professional quarterback. We'll
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Speaker 1: All Right, you know it's been all quiet on the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns front. They're gonna hire their coach before their GM.
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. Yeah, point they interviewed the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Niners, and I wonder if it's quiet
Speaker 1: because he's still in the playoffs or they have a
Speaker 1: playoff coach assistant coach I've been looking at. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: they do. Now. I don't know. Would the would the
Speaker 1: Ravens offensive coordinator is that Greg Roman? Would Would he
Speaker 1: take the Browns job? Mc looven Probably he's been around
Speaker 1: a large I know, but he's the offensive coordinator for
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Yeah, would he take the Browns? John? Kind
Speaker 1: of like Vic Foundio last year, Like, if you've been
Speaker 1: an assistant forever, don't you want that job? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you'd be going to the team in your division. He'd
Speaker 1: been as Roman been a head coach, but he might
Speaker 1: have been. He might have entered him. What about Austin
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, the Vikings coordinator. A hot name for the
Speaker 1: Browns son, by the way, Uh, Paul, thank you. Paul Findbaum,
Speaker 1: the ESPN radio host Paul Feinbaum Show and the Voice
Speaker 1: of the SEC joining us on the program. Good morning, Paul,
Speaker 1: how are you. I'm great by the way. I think
Speaker 1: the Matt rural Hire is unbelievable. I've interviewed him a
Speaker 1: number of times and he did something fascinated a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Dan, he's a huge college football fan,
Speaker 1: obviously coaching. He made me the only college football coach
Speaker 1: I've ever known that admitted that he listens to sports radio.
Speaker 1: I used to be at w Jox and Birmingham, you
Speaker 1: may remember, and we're still on there in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: And when we had him on a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, I drive to work every morning and
Speaker 1: I listened to that station in Birmingham. And this is
Speaker 1: in wacoat Texas. Who admits that they listened to crazy people.
Speaker 1: I guess two of makes the decision yesterday. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone was surprised, but I am curious, just like
Speaker 1: it was with Kyler Murray for a different reason. He
Speaker 1: was signing a baseball contract, but he needed that affirmation
Speaker 1: he's going to be a top ten pick. Once he
Speaker 1: got that, then I think he made the decision that
Speaker 1: it was easier for him. Did to get that affirmation
Speaker 1: from somebody that all of a sudden, you're going to
Speaker 1: be a top ten pick, maybe a top five pick.
Speaker 1: Don't go back to Alabama. I think he got as
Speaker 1: close to that as possible. What was really strange about
Speaker 1: this story is a week ago, as Alabama was getting
Speaker 1: ready for the Citrus Ball, the official spin out of
Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa was simply that he was coming back, and that
Speaker 1: a lot of other people were as well. And I
Speaker 1: think I was just false enthusiasm, kind of like the
Speaker 1: night of your high school prom and everybody you know
Speaker 1: grabs hands and drinks a cheap wine and says we'll
Speaker 1: be best friends forever. And the next day you go
Speaker 1: off to college and never speak to the guy again.
Speaker 1: And I think TWA got caught up in that. And
Speaker 1: it's always worth remembering something about Two. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean this to be disparagingly toward his family, but his
Speaker 1: father runs the show. Yeah, And I think the father
Speaker 1: took a good long look. He got what he hurt,
Speaker 1: He got what he wanted. Last Friday, when Two went
Speaker 1: to New York to be seen by a specialist, he
Speaker 1: got the wink of the nod that things are moving
Speaker 1: along and progressing. And I also think there was a
Speaker 1: marketing side to it as well. Within about two hours
Speaker 1: after announcing that he was leaving, he signed with Lee Steinberg.
Speaker 1: Most people may have forgotten, but that was the subject
Speaker 1: of the Jerry McGuire movie. And I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot to be made off the field as well. The
Speaker 1: two is a charismatic guy, Dan and I think the
Speaker 1: numbers that he will make off the field are pretty significant.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to who you think what quarterback benefited the
Speaker 1: most from a talent around him, because I've said all along,
Speaker 1: if LSU ever got a really good quarterback, then we
Speaker 1: would you be really amazing, because we'd see all of
Speaker 1: these wide receivers in the NFL and we'd go, oh,
Speaker 1: they went to LSU. I never knew that. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Clemson's got a lot of talent, Alabama's got a lot
Speaker 1: of talent. So out of two Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: who do you think benefited more from the talent they
Speaker 1: had around them? I think it was probably Burrow because
Speaker 1: to me, throws one of the prettiest passes I have
Speaker 1: ever seen about the way one more thing on what
Speaker 1: you just said. I had I had somebody come with
Speaker 1: me in New York a couple of weeks ago. He said,
Speaker 1: did Oje Beckham really play at LSU? I said, yes,
Speaker 1: he did. I don't remember him being there because that
Speaker 1: was every wide receiver that played under less miles. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a great question. I think Trevor Lawrence is
Speaker 1: a generational quarterback. I think two of is Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: had the best season I've ever seen, and I'm not
Speaker 1: doubting him, I swear because I didn't see him have
Speaker 1: a bad series the entire football season. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow became part of a system that worked perfectly.
Speaker 1: And you've heard Joe Brady, the young guy who came
Speaker 1: over from the Saints. But what he did, in addition
Speaker 1: to calling great plays, is he changed the fundamental way
Speaker 1: LSU receivers caught ball. He drilled that into their heads
Speaker 1: in the offseason, and that made it easier for Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: who was flawless. So there's very little wiggle room between
Speaker 1: that between the answer to that question, though, the greatest
Speaker 1: season turned in by an SEC quarterback is who I'm
Speaker 1: going Joe Burrow maybe a nosehair ahead of Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: who in twenty ten did absolutely nothing wrong. The only
Speaker 1: thing he did wrong the entire season against his head
Speaker 1: coaches warning he tried to He tried to dive over
Speaker 1: on the next of the last play of the National
Speaker 1: Championship game against Oregon to be the hero, and it
Speaker 1: turned out he was stuffed and they kicked a chip
Speaker 1: chip shot field go to win. You think you wouldn't
Speaker 1: put Manzel's season up there, Manzielle, Yeah, I would put
Speaker 1: it up there. I mean, in terms of pure excitement,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like it. But
Speaker 1: you know, man, the difference was even though Manzielle and
Speaker 1: A and M fete Alabama in Tuscaloosa, they they also
Speaker 1: dropped a game or two that they probably shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: He had a really rough game. So I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember where it was. It's only been seven or eight years,
Speaker 1: But to me, Cam's was was nearly by the way.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cam didn't lose one game. Excuse me. Cam
Speaker 1: did not lose a game, but he uh but he
Speaker 1: never had a bad game though, uh and and Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow never Joe Burrow never had a bad series. So, uh,
Speaker 1: those are those are the two pasts I would put
Speaker 1: Manzielle in their tebow. Is a little hard to quantify because, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, what he did was so unorthodox, and he
Speaker 1: had a lot of talent around him as well, and
Speaker 1: he was a great player, but he had he had
Speaker 1: a pro team around him there in Florida. Did he did?
Speaker 1: He really did. The State of the Union in Alabama
Speaker 1: with Alabama not playing next week for the national title. Uh,
Speaker 1: you got your quarterback who's leaving. I know that they
Speaker 1: got other quarterbacks and a five star who's coming in.
Speaker 1: But is there any um nervousness there with Alabama or
Speaker 1: to just reload? It's reload. But but I think it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of beating your head against the wall
Speaker 1: and saying I feel better when I stop. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean to write I'm not I'm not writing the
Speaker 1: saban off. But he's won two of the last seven titles. Dan,
Speaker 1: that's great, That's that's a career for almost anyone else.
Speaker 1: But if Dabo Sweeney is celebrating next Tuesday morning in
Speaker 1: New Orleans the national championship, that will be three out
Speaker 1: of four years. You tell me which one wins in
Speaker 1: a game of coaching poker. And I think that's that's
Speaker 1: the greatest fear. Alabama fans don't really know who to
Speaker 1: cheer for. Uh, they don't like to tell you. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean because but they really dislike Clumson even more
Speaker 1: because Clemson is the one who a year ago today
Speaker 1: beat them by twenty eight points and and Alabama is
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what happened that night in
Speaker 1: Santa Clara. But I still people think I'm crazy when
Speaker 1: I say this that if I'm both Sweenie, if Almabama's
Speaker 1: open and Nick you know, stepped down in the next
Speaker 1: two years or so, I know that he's supposed to
Speaker 1: go back there, but I'd be like, I would not
Speaker 1: leave Clemson to go back there. No, You're not crazy,
Speaker 1: You're you're you're You're very smart for saying that there's
Speaker 1: no way he'll go back there. A couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: I thought he would. I saw with him at a
Speaker 1: banquet two years ago where he was inducted into the
Speaker 1: Alabama Sports Hall of Fame, and he was cheery eyed
Speaker 1: and emotional as family was there. It was you know,
Speaker 1: it was a big moment for him. But that was
Speaker 1: that was a national championship ago, and the second one
Speaker 1: really does. It's like, you know, winning, you winn you know,
Speaker 1: you have one number one hit with a million, a
Speaker 1: million a million people have had that, well, not that many,
Speaker 1: but quite a few. Having another one really solidifies you.
Speaker 1: And and he's now in rarefied air to go back.
Speaker 1: He's got as great a situation as any coach has
Speaker 1: ever had. Uh, he's beloved. Uh. If you've been there, Dan,
Speaker 1: it's it's just an unbelievably cool place where the only
Speaker 1: thing that matters is college football. And to go to
Speaker 1: Alabama to follow Saban is insane. In all the great
Speaker 1: transitions in history, whether following Wooden or or Bryant or
Speaker 1: any one of the icons in college history, I think
Speaker 1: this would be the toughest because, I mean, Alabama fans
Speaker 1: aren't really happy right now. And they went eleven and two,
Speaker 1: destroyed Jim Harbaugh in a bowl game, will finish in
Speaker 1: you know, probably six or seventh in the rankings, and
Speaker 1: they have the number two recruiting class, and it feels
Speaker 1: like armageddon. I know. I know. By the way, you've
Speaker 1: got an early Christmas gift this year? Oh yeah, I did.
Speaker 1: I guess you're talking about Jim Harbaugh. No, oh, Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 1: That that was Christmas, Hanuka Birthday, anniversary all wrapped into one.
Speaker 1: It's too easy. All you need to do is bring
Speaker 1: back Spurrier, you know, you know then, yeah, you haven't
Speaker 1: made talk about luck for Kiffin. He hires DJ Durkin
Speaker 1: uh from the Maryland coach was fired in any other
Speaker 1: on any other day of the year, that would be
Speaker 1: the biggest story in college football, or it was, at
Speaker 1: least within the state. By the end of the day,
Speaker 1: Mississippi State had fired its coach and Kiffen I was
Speaker 1: just sitting there going, isn't anyone going to criticize me? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean, he he's it's it's it's going to be
Speaker 1: what it is. Everything Lane does is a reality show,
Speaker 1: but this is going to be even more dramatic. Wait,
Speaker 1: what was the hardball? I know and Harba go at it.
Speaker 1: It was just h yeah, it was just hardball playing
Speaker 1: saved last week in a in a New Year's Day
Speaker 1: ball that was that was I mean, it's always I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I used to really kind of you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit of Schadenfouder was hardball when when he lost.
Speaker 1: But now now Dan, it's it's like I wish you
Speaker 1: would just beat somebody, because I mean, how many times
Speaker 1: can you go on a radio show and Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 1: lost again to a top ten team. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: becoming one of the the It's like the record, the
Speaker 1: record just keeps skipping over and over again, so it's
Speaker 1: it's no longer really entertaining. You are, Paul though, man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time as always. Thank you. Enjoy the
Speaker 1: National title game? Who do you have? I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't expect that to change dance. It's a pleasure,
Speaker 1: bolog you guy. I really appreciate, Thank you you doing her.
Speaker 1: That's Paul Finbaum. He's ESPN radio host Paul Binbaum Show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I you know, Dabosqueen and Clemson they love this underdog role.
Speaker 1: Oh woe is me? And you know we're lucky to
Speaker 1: get in the final four. And I'm going I'm not
Speaker 1: buying that, dude. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna buy that.
Speaker 1: I will say, Lsu, that offense has as many weapons,
Speaker 1: as as much athleticism, as much talented as I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I just I think the speed is incredible. It's just
Speaker 1: it's so different if you and I did this on purpose,
Speaker 1: and it's not fair to OHIOU and Nevada. But I
Speaker 1: watched a little bit of LSU against Oklahoma at this
Speaker 1: now it was on tape. Okay, the game had already
Speaker 1: been played, but I wanted to watch it. And then
Speaker 1: I watched the Ohio you Nevada game in real time
Speaker 1: the bowl game, just to see the difference in speed,
Speaker 1: and it is remarkable. And that's why I brought up
Speaker 1: that comment, that question to Paul. You have quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: look better because of the talent around them. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that they're not talented, but sometimes you know, I
Speaker 1: go back to Dwayne Haskins and being at the Michigan
Speaker 1: game in Columbus, I could have hit most of those
Speaker 1: wide receivers and I'm being honest, they were that wide open,
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I didn't know, and I still don't
Speaker 1: know how good Dwayne Haskins is. I don't and anybody
Speaker 1: who thinks they know is wrong. You don't know that
Speaker 1: because we haven't a large sample size. We have one season,
Speaker 1: wonderful season, and then you got sort of spotty seasons
Speaker 1: rookie year. It's hard at that position, and even when
Speaker 1: you think you've got him figured out, you don't. You know,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady had a resurgence at about thirty six thirty
Speaker 1: seven when he was supposed to be on the decline,
Speaker 1: and then somehow he had this great resurgence and he's
Speaker 1: winning an MVP and he's going back to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know. Peyton Manning, Oh, it's over, He'll never be
Speaker 1: able to play. And then he goes to Denver and
Speaker 1: has an unbelievable season when you're never quite sure. Cam
Speaker 1: Newton may reinvent himself. Kyler Murray too small? Can anybody
Speaker 1: look at his numbers? He's the offensive rookie of the year.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was great, But is he going to continue
Speaker 1: to be great and want to be great and get better?
Speaker 1: That's the game. Lamar Jackson, unbelievable. Now what happens? Yeah, mclub,
Speaker 1: don't forget Javis Winston wherever its in it. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's all of those things combined. He's everything you want
Speaker 1: and nothing that you want. He's I'm telling you, he's fascinated.
Speaker 1: Remember Baker Mayfield, how everyone said he was deliveredst I
Speaker 1: mean he was a full Yeah, you know now his
Speaker 1: offensive guru is going to become head coach. And then
Speaker 1: you got Odell Beckham and you got got all these weapons,
Speaker 1: we got running backs, we got it all and he
Speaker 1: had nothing. Yeah, James S. Winston's like the guy you
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Speaker 1: had a listener who's in the military who just sent
Speaker 1: in a Walder Peyton jersey and some Walder Peyton pictures.
Speaker 1: This guy knows where where I lean, if you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Lieutenant Jack Lunham Dan, Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: he uh sent in a Wolder Peyton jersey framed and
Speaker 1: somehow I think that that's going to end up in
Speaker 1: Pauli's ski lodge in Vermont? Is the Peyton jersey going
Speaker 1: to stay here? Can I ask to take it home
Speaker 1: instead of stealing it from here in a week from now.
Speaker 1: It's a new thing I'm trying. I actually ask you
Speaker 1: to take things off. Yes, with all due respect that
Speaker 1: rather Paul take it home, let's just get it out
Speaker 1: of here. I'll take it home, thank you. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I was insulted as I yes, enjoy and
Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're maxed out on Peyton
Speaker 1: gart out. You know he was on the North he
Speaker 1: was on the eighty five Bears. I do know if
Speaker 1: you read about it, Andrew, have you heard of that team?
Speaker 1: Did the eighty five Bears win? They won? Yeah? What many? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: Yet he's gonna get just distracted. Were hang this somewhere.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna be looking at it lovingly, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna just do all the things you should probably take
Speaker 1: at home. Why did he send in a photo of
Speaker 1: Peyton running in that Super Bowl touch Oh? You know
Speaker 1: what are we doing? I'm telling you. When he says this,
Speaker 1: Dan and I'm not making a radio bit, I get
Speaker 1: really angry inside and I'd like to hit him, but
Speaker 1: I know I would get in trouble from corporate. I
Speaker 1: would prefer you didn't. But when he says Walter Payton
Speaker 1: didn't scoring a super bow, which is the fact, I
Speaker 1: really get upset, like my shoulders getting risen up. Why
Speaker 1: would Bass fans so mad about that? Who cares? What's
Speaker 1: the difference? I think because the Fridge got a touchdown,
Speaker 1: William the fridge Raider Perry and the fact that, well,
Speaker 1: I think that Peyton was upset. I think Walter was
Speaker 1: upset if I if memory serves me correctly, that he
Speaker 1: didn't get it. He didn't get a touch. He was
Speaker 1: a little dour in the post game, and he did
Speaker 1: an interview one time and talked about it, and he
Speaker 1: said he was a little bit about that moment because
Speaker 1: he got shut down. He only had like sixty yards
Speaker 1: in the game, but he said he was more disappointed
Speaker 1: that the ride was over, and he said he was
Speaker 1: in He's just like, Wow, that was such a great ride.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's over. Who knows? And Dick always
Speaker 1: said it's his biggest career regret. Do you remember what
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that was? That we were in New Orleans
Speaker 1: and were you with me? Wow? I joined the team
Speaker 1: two years like okay. So we were at that either
Speaker 1: the Hyatt or the Hilton, maybe maybe two thousand. But
Speaker 1: so I'm going into the hotel and Walter Payton is
Speaker 1: probably a hundred yards outside of the hotel and he
Speaker 1: sees me. Now, I've had interaction with him and always
Speaker 1: enjoyed his company, but I can't say that I really
Speaker 1: knew him. He runs over to say a loo and
Speaker 1: he kisses me on the mountain and I tell this
Speaker 1: story to Pauli and you can just see Pauli. He's
Speaker 1: got like hearts in his eyes and he was like
Speaker 1: it could have been me? What was that like? And
Speaker 1: it was one of those where he was just he
Speaker 1: had so much energy back then, he had so much energy.
Speaker 1: And I remember running over there. I go, hey, Walter,
Speaker 1: how are and he grabbed me and gave me a kiss.
Speaker 1: I went, all right, yes, yes, Tome. I had never
Speaker 1: met him and he was in the green room and
Speaker 1: I went to say hi to him on a TV
Speaker 1: show that I worked on several years ago, and he
Speaker 1: pinched my tush. So he's a super friendly guy. I
Speaker 1: was not expecting. I had never met him if I
Speaker 1: don't even think I ever spoke with him on the phone.
Speaker 1: And he came in it. It's amazing Todd's first new
Speaker 1: story in a decade. I think that that. I think
Speaker 1: it's breaking news. I never said no. I think I
Speaker 1: actually did no. No. You told me every other story
Speaker 1: about five or six times, but that's a new story.
Speaker 1: I went over, I took his hand him then as
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to shake it. The art person or the
Speaker 1: other guest was Mitagram. He pinched my tushes. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: uh Maury in Michigan, Hey, Maury, what do you have
Speaker 1: for me today? That's two and a little too much,
Speaker 1: so damn. My question for you is this, who benefits
Speaker 1: the most as far as the team's in the draft
Speaker 1: order from TA declaring for the draft? Could it be
Speaker 1: my Detroit Lions? You think somebody's gonna trade up a
Speaker 1: trade up? I do, because the two teams before him
Speaker 1: don't need a quarterback presumably, and there's several behind that
Speaker 1: do and I think there's gonna be a good opportunity
Speaker 1: for the Lions to trade back still get a player
Speaker 1: that will make a difference, and hopefully, you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: somebody really steps up and gives us another late first
Speaker 1: rounder or second rounder. But that would be the wise
Speaker 1: thing to do in my opinion. All Right, Well, thank you, Mary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been talking about the Giants since they have their quarterback,
Speaker 1: as long as it's not a serious injury with Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford and you're sold on you know that situation moving forward.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe somebody goes up to Detroit up to
Speaker 1: that spot, trades into it because somebody. We know this
Speaker 1: happens every year, somebody gonna fall in love with somebody
Speaker 1: and then they're going to go after him. I still
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