1 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodungks podcast 2 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network, A Fine Network, Thursday, March fourteenth, 3 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I'm J. Skeets here in the Classic 4 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Factory and alongside me as always tas melice. 5 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: Id guest listeners, this is for you. 6 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a top shot boy, 7 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Trick Kirby, Hey, hey yo, and last but not least, 8 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: over Yonder making the magic happen all week long. It's 9 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Eshwa kid Hi, y'all doing what's up? Esh doing great? 10 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Shout out to the stream team, joining a live right 11 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: now on YouTube. Hit that like button and subscribe. Coming 12 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: up later today for all you Survivor fans, a new 13 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: No Buffs breaking down last night's episode three, which ended 14 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: a little weird, but TK and I will break down 15 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: this episode at about one pm Eastern. Go search for 16 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: No Buffs on YouTube or wherever you download and listen 17 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: to podcasts. But let's get into the hoops. And I 18 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: got some good news. We had Weggie number forty six 19 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: last night and we had Devlin and Jack Armstrong on 20 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: the call. 21 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: And saved by IQ to Kelly so Lenik into the 22 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: front court, and what do we have here? Jack? 23 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: That's a shout out to. 24 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: Tazz and Skeets and the Note. 25 00:01:51,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Dunks podcast in the original Basketball Jones. Wow, hell, Little 26 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Basketball Jones. Call back there from Devlin, Hey throw Trey 27 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Kirby's in name next time. Come on, Buddy. 28 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna say it. 29 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: I got you, but we love to hear that anyway 30 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: from Devlin. I like how Jack says Weggie too? 31 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was nice one too. What do we have here, 32 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Jacky voice? 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: We have here? 34 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: Jack? 35 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: So Ivy picks up Weggie forty six with the block 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: on Nora in a Pistons win before you conflicted, Raptors lose, 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: But hey, your pistons in the nut does bowl standings win? 38 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Right? No? I want the Raptors to get that top 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: six pick. The more losses, the veteran we'll get into 40 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: that game, will we. I don't know how much? 41 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Not much. No, let's start with a banger from last 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: night with his team. Demarto Rozen's forty six points lead 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: the Bulls past the Pacers in overtime. Hell of a 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: shot from Derozen at the end of regulation. The baseline 45 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: play fading was like two seconds Ago splashes it to 46 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: get the Bulls into overtime, and then he was pretty 47 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: damn good in that extra period. 48 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: He was great in overtime as well. I let out 49 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: a yes when he hit the jumper on the baseline. 50 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: A great play and a great game. I gave it 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: five stars on boxscore dot com. Okay, nine ties, nineteen 52 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: lead changes in the fourth quarter, five ties and ten 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: lead changes, big shots on both sides. I thought it 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: was going to be over when Miles Turner hit back 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: to back three his first one tied the game up. 56 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: Next possession hit another one to put him up three 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: with fifty five seconds left the game. Bridgefield's house was 58 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: going crazy. It was so loud in there. But on 59 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: the other end, the Bulls got some nice plays, you know, 60 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: smart move by the Pacers to foul up three. DeRozan 61 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: goes to the line, knocks down the first one, then 62 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: a clutch miss. I think it was his first miss 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: free throw of the game at that point. Obi Toppin 64 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: tips it way out and then a good call by 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Billy Donovan. He ran a play where Io Dessummu screens 66 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam, who was guarding Demarto Rosen. That left TJ 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: McConnell to switch on De Rosen. McConnell was right there, 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: but he doesn't have the size to contest De Rozan, 69 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: who just shoots jumpers over people. That's kind of his game. 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: Another clutch game for the Balls. They're thirty eighth of 71 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: the season, twenty third clutch win of the season. That's 72 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: tied for first with Denver. They are playing, ready right now, 73 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: what a game. 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: And this was very entertaining, some huge shots, some huge 75 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: defensive plays, you know that, the chase down block and 76 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: then he flips on his back and lands on Kobe White. 77 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's okay. Obviously had to leave the game. But 78 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: some just entertaining basketball in this one. 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the game story could have been Pascal Siakam's block there, 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: the Chase down block. It wasn't quite an Anthony Edwards 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: Chase down block where he hit his head on the rim, 82 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: but it was a Chase down block with ten seconds 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: left where they were up one and they go hit 84 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: two free throws. Then the eternal question DF foul to 85 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: send the guy to the line shoot two free throws 86 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: instead of letting him shoot the three, So they fouled 87 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: to Martin Rosen, and unfortunately was Aaron Nei Smith, who 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: did the best job possible all game long under Marty Rosen, 89 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: who who had a good game, But that was their guy. 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: He fouls out, so he's not around for over time. 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: When to Margo is off and yeah, then DeRozan hits 92 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: the first. The Pacers just ain't tall enough. They had 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: they had all their bigs out there, they had them 94 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: all there and Miles Turner, but Obie Topping just couldn't 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: do it. 96 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: He just kill you hot. He just tipped it to 97 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: the side. If he really had just tipped it up 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: or back. 99 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand he did try, and it wasn't a 100 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: bad move. He knocked it out of bounds. But then 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: you get Derozen where he hits his shots that baseline jumper. 102 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: Apparently according to the stats, he's fifty five percent from 103 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: that right baseline mid range spot. All, yeah, that's a 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: decent that's a decent number. And yeah, you missed. And 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: then he went off obviously in overtime where he had 106 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: nine and he had fifteen free throws in the game 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: that he hit a lot of points at. 108 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that DeRozan fifteen to twenty four from the field 109 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: fifteen to seventeen. At the line he had nine boards, 110 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: two steals. He played a lot of minutes. Game high 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: forty four minutes there it going to overtime. According to statitudes, 112 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: DeRozan's second oldest player in NBA history to make at 113 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: least fifteen field goals and fifteen free throws in a game, 114 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: trailing only Carl Malone, who was just a little bit 115 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: older when he did it. Drozen was special. I thought, 116 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: some big places by some of the other guys in 117 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: overtime for your bulls tk Vucci baby hit a big 118 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: turnaround jumper in overtime. He was like, you know, I 119 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: heard the bulls broadcast, get up on Myles Turner man, 120 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 1: what are you doing? But that was a big shot. 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: Then you had Io blowing by Haliburton for that layup. 122 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Cuz Siakam and the Pacers like they were like anybody, 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: but Derozen he was like face guarding him, like forty 124 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: feet away from the net, and rozen was like, somebody 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: else is gonna have to do something here. Io took 126 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: it at Haliburton, laid it in. I thought that was nice. 127 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: And then finally really late was like twenty four seconds 128 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: ago again get the ball out of DeRozan's hands. He 129 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: gets it to Caruso and he found I guess it 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: was Tory Craig underneath the hoop sort of was looking away, 131 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: sort of looking at Vouch found Craig laid it in. 132 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: So all three of those guys making at least timely 133 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: plays to help out Who did the heavy lifting. 134 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: Bowls last five wins. I think they're five, and they 135 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: must be five and two in their last seven if 136 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: I'm thinking right. Their last five wins, though they won 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: the two overtime game against Cleveland, DeRozan fouled on a 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: three at the end of regulation, makes all three free 139 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: throws to go into ot where they ended up winning. 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: They had the twenty two point comeback win against the 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: Kings where DeRozan outscored Sacramento nineteen to sixteen in the 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Then they beat the Jazz by two DeRozan 143 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: seventeen in the fourth quarter. Then they beat the Warriors 144 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: by three. DeRozan makes two shots in the final minute, 145 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: both to take the lead and the nicest of the 146 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: game at the line with two free throws. This guy's money. 147 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: Yes, we'll get into some NBA Award predictions or look 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: at the front runners. A little bit later in the show, 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: we'll even talk about the clutch Player of the Year. 150 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: And I think the odds even flipped over the last 151 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: twenty four hours or after this performance. A lot of 152 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: the odds I saw had Curry as the favorite until 153 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: what DeRozan did last night, and now DeRozan is the favorite. 154 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: When you're looking at the books makers there for clutch 155 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, which is an award that I 156 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: sometimes forget a vote. 157 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 2: And it's voted on, but it's yeah, yeah, but people 158 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: just look at the numbers. 159 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. I think 160 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: it's the numbers in clutch play and then a little 161 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: bit of the narrative or the games or the moments 162 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: like this. I think people are trying to weigh them both, right, 163 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: That's how I would I think if I voted, how 164 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: to vote? 165 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's hustle players, the one where they 166 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: just like look at yeah, stuff, right, that's good. 167 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: Yes, So that's a weird award. 168 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: This was the Bulls tenth overtime game this season. 169 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: You know what have got? 170 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Like still, I don't know, fifteen to twenty games to go. 171 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: They already played ten. What's the record is there with 172 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: no Shuemann? Where are you at? 173 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: Man? 174 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: It's a great question. 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Record for an eighty two game season, for a team 176 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: a number of times to play an overtime game. I 177 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: assume it's a little bit more, but it can't be 178 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: much more. That's a lot of games. It's a good 179 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: percentage of their games going overtime. 180 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: I think it was the first one for the Pacers too. 181 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Yes, they did say they. 182 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: Know what we're not doing. 183 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on under helping the Bulls get past Pacers. 184 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, the Pacers they go deep on their team. We've 185 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: talked about aaron Nie Smith here. He wasn't there in 186 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: the overtime. They got so many guys. Their bench won 187 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: forty seven to sixteen in this game. Fantastic to get 188 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: them there, but it's one of those things now here 189 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: without Benedict Mathern, you think, oh, less points. But they 190 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: do have so many defensive guys and that's where they 191 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: need to improve. So they showed that they could and 192 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: they try and go one through twelve. Pascal Siakam only 193 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: took twelve shots in this game, had a great night. 194 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: But they try and distribute to everybody, So all five 195 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: of their guys had double digit shots. And that's the 196 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: benefit of this team is that everybody can shoot, except 197 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: for Haliburton. Last night one of six from three. He 198 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: just splashes a couple more threes. This game is long over, 199 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: but it's one of those teams Pacers knocked off. Okay, 200 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: see the night before. Wow, that's beautiful. Yeah, that was 201 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: a huge game, but then they lose. It happens to 202 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: every freaking team. 203 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Back the back situations are difficult, for sure, and they 204 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: played well, but the Bulls, especially with the Rose and Late, 205 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: just took over. And you are getting very close to 206 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: the Bulls being back. There are two games below five hundred. 207 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 208 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: Yes, they're getting close. 209 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: Man. 210 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: I was counting my backs before they hatched over the weekend. 211 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: I thought they were going to take it down the 212 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: Clippers and do it, but not quite. I actually thought 213 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: the Pacers should have gone to Siakam more. He was 214 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: just bullying the Bulls. They don't have anybody healthy right 215 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: now who's like the right size and strength to guard 216 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: a guy like Siakim. He's just playing bully ball all night, 217 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: but only twelve shot attempts. That's the least in their 218 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: starting lineup. The Bulls did a good job of getting 219 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: the ball out of his hands at times, but they 220 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: could have force fed him a little bit. Ended up 221 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: with too many Nampard threes. 222 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: And you're a little more plugged in than I am. 223 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: When it comes to the Chicago scene, do we have 224 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: an update at all on Kobe White? 225 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 3: They said it was a hip injury. It looked bad. 226 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: He started grabbing his hip instantly. I don't understand how 227 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: that's not a foul, clean block by Siakam's courtly, but 228 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: then he does like a leg drop on top of 229 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: Kobe White's head after the play. 230 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: And right, so you think, I mean, we get all 231 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: up in arms about a guy stepping under a guy 232 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: on a jump shot and they'll call it near him. 233 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: So you think the flip here if somebody fall on 234 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: you should also be a fel Do you have an 235 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: opinion on that? I see what you're saying, but it's 236 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: also I mean, was also like air. It's amazed he 237 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: didn't get hurt. I don't know how he just that 238 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: guy's just rubbering. He just bounced back up, no problem. 239 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: But it was like the Anthony Edwards where he was 240 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: chasing back. It was a real chase down block, and 241 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: when you're doing that, you're gonna hit the guy and 242 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: that happens, and I think the rest are just looking 243 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: at it like, wow, that's so fun. A few seconds 244 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: left in a basketball game where a guy comes back 245 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: and chases you down for a beautiful block. So they 246 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: don't call it, but you can easily call it. 247 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: I think just there's you're talking about the calling of 248 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: Siakam landing on the guy, right because he didn't foul 249 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: him in the air. 250 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, absolutely absolutely. There's just a lot of contact 251 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: and that's gonna happen when when you see a chase 252 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: down block. But it's also just fun. 253 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's okay moving forward. At least he walked off 254 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: the floor like that's good. But yeah, he was down 255 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: there for a while and you saw in the replays 256 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: like his leg is sort of when he landed by himself, 257 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: he sort of landed a little lot. And then you 258 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: have a guy that's you know, two hundred pounds come 259 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: crashing down on top of you. Yeah, that's that's gonna hurt. 260 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna leave the mark. Moving on, Donovan Mitchell returned 261 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: to the Cavaliers. They were on fire from three. They 262 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: hit twenty threes in the one to sixteen ninety five 263 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: win over the Pelicans, who had been playing really, really good. Here, 264 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: this is one of those games where it just boils 265 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: down to three point shooting in all honesty, because you 266 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: had Mitchell hitting four, Garland hit six, Sam Merrill hit five, 267 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: George Niang the Minivan himself hit four twenty of forty 268 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: five from deep, while the Pelicans four of twenty two. 269 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a lot to add 270 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: to this game, but worth noting here that Mitchell's back 271 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: and they caught fire right. 272 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there is a ton although the 273 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: free throw discrepancy was interesting and went the other direction. Yeah, 274 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: because the Cavs were out there shooting threes. This is 275 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: the modern modern day era. I think we're seeing fewer 276 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: free throws because the scores were just too high. So 277 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: they've said, you know, let's have a little fall and 278 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: see there's more offense. But now there's fewer free throws. 279 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: The Calves didn't take a free throw until the fourth quarter, 280 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: so they went a long time and they only shot 281 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: three in the fourth quarter, while Zion Williams said, I 282 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: think wanted more fowls, although you know he went to 283 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: the line a decent amount, but he was looking at 284 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: the referees to gimme a call, and the entire building 285 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: in New Orleans was asking it, Hello, Hello, he's got 286 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: George Niang. He's running right through that van and listen. 287 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: Niang was doing this thing. The Pelicans, Yeah, not shooting 288 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: shooting threes was that was difficult. The Cavs took double 289 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: the amount the Pelicans did. And I've just watched this 290 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 2: Pelicans team. Maybe they play this similar thing that they 291 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 2: are playing really well. They snapped their losing streak. The 292 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: Unis Valacunas defense is going to be a question to 293 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: me in the postseason because you can you can't put 294 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: them on an island and go at him. And that's 295 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: what the Calves did to generate the driving caicks from 296 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: driving cakes. And that's why he didn't start the second half. 297 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: Larry Nance started over him. So that is a question 298 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: about this team. Although they've got Zion, he ain't playing 299 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: the five. It's not it's not gonna happen. Knows. Vlachius 300 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: is as good as he's been as many as we've 301 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: talked about We talked about the basketball Jones from the 302 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: original toront We talked about Pascal Siaka, Deamar's former teammate. 303 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: He could have shot all hack of a lot more 304 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: yos Valonas has seen better days. This NBA is just 305 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: a little difficult for him defensively, sure, and that's why 306 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: he wasn't He wasn't playing that second half. 307 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about talk about today's game. New Orleans 308 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: outscored Cleveland in the paint. They had the advantage twenty 309 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: one to two at the free throw line, and it 310 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: didn't matter because of the disparity in three point shooting 311 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: twenty to four. That's sixty points to twelve, and that 312 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: is why the Calves won the game. It sums it 313 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: up right there. Do you have anything from this one? 314 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? I actually thought the Calves reserves really won this 315 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: game because it was pretty tight up until the third 316 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: quarter when Karis Lavert, Sam Merrill and Damian Jones, who 317 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: was running wild out in there, checked in about six 318 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: minutes left. They went on a sixteen to two run, 319 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: finished plus twelve in the quarter in six minutes, turned 320 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: the game into a blow out. They were just playing 321 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: a lot faster. I thought that the Pelicans were, even 322 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: though it wasn't all fast breaks. They were just flying 323 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: through their actions. Pelicans had to be in rotation the 324 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: entire time. Caros Lavert only two points last night, but 325 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: nine assists. They were trying to stop him and he 326 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: was getting off the ball quickly. Darius Garland man, he's 327 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: turned it around. Yeah, this season. He had a really 328 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: slow start earlier in the year shooting the ball, but 329 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: since getting healthy since the All Star break, forty seven 330 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: percent from three. And then you mentioned Nyang. He's lights 331 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: out right now as well. 332 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Vany is so weird guy to watch play. 333 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: Is a weird guy. 334 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: Side step. He was side stepping into his threes. It 335 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: wasn't just catching shoot. He's moved on. It was a 336 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: parallel park by that van sidestep beyond the three point 337 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: line too. 338 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: NBA Finals rebatch last night on ESPN, Nuggets beat the 339 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: Heat one to eighty eight, and Denver has taken sole 340 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: possession of first place in the Western Conference standings. They're 341 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: an NBA best ten and one since the All Star Break. 342 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: And I saw that the Nuggets are thirty two and 343 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: nine this year when their go to starting five of Joki, Chmurray, 344 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior, Aaron Gordon, and Contavious Coldwell. Pope are 345 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: all together in the lineup. Pretty good record, and you 346 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: know they are not scared of the Miami Heat at all. 347 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: We talked sometimes about like maybe the Bucks are scared 348 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: of the Heat. Maybe the Celtics are a rightfully scared 349 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: of the Heat come playoff time, Denver Nuggets or not. 350 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: I think that's safe to say. They sort of just 351 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: own them. 352 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: Twelve and one in their last thirteen against the Miami Heat. 353 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what do you think of Denver get the 354 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: twelve point win? 355 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 3: This was a crunch time game. This was a five 356 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: point game, just a good point four minutes and thirty 357 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: five seconds left after Terry Rozier made a jump shot. 358 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: Nikola Jokicic took one shot in the final five minutes, 359 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: zero assists, and he completely won him the game with screaming. 360 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Oh boy oh screen talk. 361 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: First first two were on Terry Rozier. He's guarding Reggie 362 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: Jackson and Jokis just takes him completely out of the play. 363 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: Reggie walks into two easy fifteen footers. Timeouts happened, subs happen. 364 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: Now it's Butler who's guarding Reggie Jackson. He dances around 365 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: the Yolkic pick, but Reggie Jackson didn't. The all flow hits, 366 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: the step back three turned a five point game into 367 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: a ten point game. The guy barely touched the ball 368 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, or at least down the stretch here, 369 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: and just was blasting the tiny little heat out there, 370 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: getting wide open looks for Reggie Jackson, not even for 371 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: Jamal Murray. Jamal is happening to let him cook. Then 372 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: they finally checked Murray in as well, and somehow this 373 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: turned into a twelve point game when it was five 374 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: points with four minutes. That's how good the Nuggets are 375 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: at flipping. 376 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: The switch totally. Reggie Jackson three threes on three consecutive possessions, 377 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 2: that's freaking impressive. But you're totally right. This was just 378 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: a late scoring game for them. They held Miami to 379 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: four points in the last four and a half minutes, 380 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: so they won it in the fourth quarter. That's what 381 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: they do. That's kind of what championship teams do. They 382 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: look at the fourth court and they say, all right, 383 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: we'll do this thing. 384 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: Turn it up. 385 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: And Michael Malone, head coach, said this after the game. 386 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: Sometimes we always talk about something. Excuse me, we always 387 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 2: talk about is that you're fourth quarter has to be 388 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: your best quarter. It's closing time, as closing time. 389 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, get the guitar. Nick Nurse is like, hold on, 390 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't know the only. 391 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 3: Guy that plays guitar in the end I would sing. 392 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: Those are the only lyrics I know. You don't have 393 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: to go home, but you can't stay here. 394 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: That's it. I was gonna go. It's closing it's closing time. 395 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 2: It's not a song, that's it's business time. That's business time. Yeah, 396 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: that's where I go. 397 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: Wednesday is the night. 398 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. 399 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: Getting back to Jack Armstrong always sings that song. Yeah, 400 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: that's right, just saying but we always talk about Jokich. 401 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: We talked about Murray and then Gordon. Those are the 402 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: first three nuggets we talked about, and then we KCP 403 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: might be the fourth. Maybe it might be Michael Port Junior. 404 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: But that guy contributes. They have so many guys who contribute. 405 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: He had five threes last night. 406 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: He is on fire since the All Star break. Shout 407 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: out to ESPN's Cassidy Hubberth for bringing this up on 408 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: the broadcast. Uh he's averaging over twenty points per game 409 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: since they came back from the break. Michael Porter Junior 410 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: is shooting fifty five percent from the field, forty three 411 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: percent from deep, and ninety three percent at the line. 412 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: He doesn't get there a ton, but I think he's 413 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: sixteen of eighteen at the line since they've come back. 414 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: That's huge. Wow, they got another twenty point per game score. 415 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: We've seen him have these moments in these stretches, for sure, 416 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: but that's those are unreal efficient numbers there from all 417 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: three facets. So he's got it going. He's a big 418 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: reason why they are barely lost here since they came back, 419 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: and they had their eyes on that number one seed 420 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: when the texts started flying around. 421 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: That's right, yeah, sending those texts. Don't get me anything 422 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: for my birthday. All I want is the one seed. 423 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: And then he blast his teammates and they ain't give 424 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: me anything. 425 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: Well, they got it. It was a late birthday. 426 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: Give the number, yeah seed, we'll get you the one seed. 427 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: I also thought the Aaron Gordon small ball five. We've 428 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: seen it a lot of times, but you know, the 429 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: Nuggets try to stay away from it during the regular season. 430 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: Zeke Nage got some run in the first half save 431 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon's legs, and then the reserves plus Aaron Gordon 432 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: at small ball five, like they were completely cooking. I 433 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: thought in this one, Yeah. 434 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: That was the question coming into the season. Do they 435 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: have enough guys? And Peyton Watson looks great, He's a 436 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: great defender, had a monster dunk in this game to 437 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: give them the first seed alone for the first time 438 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: in four months. They haven't been up there since freaking 439 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: middle of November, and here they are. Don't go to 440 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: the White House that gets you the first seed, I guess. 441 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Moving on Sabonis, another triple double for this guy as 442 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: the Kings beat the Lakers one twenty to one oh seven. 443 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: They swept the Lakers for only their second time in 444 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: franchise history. So it took all four games versus LA 445 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: in pretty dominant fashion. Here your thoughts. 446 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 3: TK Tamanta Sabonis is ten and zero against Anthony Davis career. 447 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: I saw this too. I was surprised. 448 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: I was surprised. I mean, like, I'm guessing some of 449 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: those Pacers and Pelicans teams were evenly matched. The Lakers 450 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: have won a title, you know, with Anthony Davis. You 451 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: would assume that they are ahead of the Kings, but 452 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: Sabonis not afraid of Anthony Davis when. 453 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: He plays, just because I looked it up. For those 454 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: games were when Sabonis was on the Thunder. 455 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: That's a that's a long time. 456 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh, he was only on the floor with Anthony Davis 457 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: when he was a pacer just once and then five 458 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: were with the Kings. There you go, so weird stuff. 459 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: But he has been rolling. He has been rolling obviously, 460 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 2: you know, the last five games with the Kings and 461 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: this year of. 462 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 3: Sweep seventeen points, nineteen boards and ten assists, and the 463 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: physicality he brings to Davis. That's a place where you 464 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 3: can maybe exploit Anthony Davis sometimes if you're able to 465 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: just get your shoulder and go and push him around. 466 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: There was that play I guess it was probably in 467 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 3: the third quarter where he just sizes up ad spin, spins, 468 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: somehow knocks him down with a spin move and finishes 469 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: over top of him as well. It's impressive stuff. And 470 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 3: then it's kind of weird because I feel like Davis 471 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: can't handle Sabonis's physicality the whole time. And on the perimeter, 472 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 3: the Lakers can't stick with the King's speed, so it's 473 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: kind of like a Fox and Ox situation out there 474 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: for him. And that's why the Kings seem to have 475 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: the Lakers number right now. 476 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Big shooting nights two from Keegan Murray who hit five 477 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: threes and then Harrison Barnes who hit seven. So those 478 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: guys contributing twelve three pointers for Sacramento. And you know, 479 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: the Lakers like got back in this game, and it 480 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: felt like every time they did it was one of 481 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: those two guys, especially Harrison Barnes, who had like a 482 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: timely three to sort of give them a little bit 483 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: of breathing room, and they went on to win pretty handily. 484 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: The Kings man fascinating team. They have an incredible record. 485 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: I know the Lakers are not near the top of 486 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: the Western Conference, but they have a good record against 487 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: the good teams in the West. They're gonna be playing, 488 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: in theory a good team in a play in situation 489 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: or maybe even in the playoffs if they can stay 490 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: in that top six. I'm just fascinated to see if 491 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: they can get their first playoff series win in a 492 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: very very very long time. 493 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Kings get ready for the good teams. That 494 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: is totally true, and I think the Lakers are good 495 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: enough in that category for them to look at and say, 496 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna play, We're gonna do this, similar 497 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: to what we saw with the Pelicans last night. You 498 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: get good performances from time to time, and I thought 499 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 2: Kean Ellis starting for Kevin Hurder was good for them. 500 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: He's been a guy twenty four year old, undrafted, who 501 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: plays hard defensively, might take Davian Mitchell's minutes at times, 502 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: but he was great hidden multiple threes. They were just 503 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: spacing the floor against them. That's kind of where this 504 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 2: game was won, partly because they were quick. As Trey said, 505 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: five more threes than the Lakers. That hurt. And Dangel Russell, 506 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: you know, he said he was a killer a couple 507 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. I'm a killer, That's what I do. 508 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: He was killed in this one. Yeah. 509 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: Bad was six points two to nine shooting, only won three, 510 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: two turnovers to six assists. Yeah, not a good de 511 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Lo game. He was due for a real bad stinker, 512 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: unfortunately for him. One other game I really want to 513 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: break down here with you guys. Lucas scored twenty one, 514 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: but his triple double streak ended at seven as the 515 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: MAVs got past the Warriors one, nine ninety nine. So 516 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: a few things. First off, the Warriors need Steph Curry 517 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: desperately to come back. They've dropped five of their last 518 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: six this season without him. Kerr said before the game 519 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: Curry should join the team in Los Angeles, and the 520 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: coach was hopeful that Curry might play in Saturday's game 521 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: against the Lakers. That's a nationally televised game. That's a 522 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: big game. When you're looking at the standings there in 523 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: the playing spots right now, So they need him. I mean, 524 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: that's that's a no brainer. Chris Paul. Did you guys 525 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: see Chris Paul give the referee a tech after he 526 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: got a tech? That was a first for me. It 527 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: was amazing. Chris Paul arguing about the no call sort 528 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: of at the end of a shot clock there, what 529 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: the heck? I got hit? He gets teed up for arguing. 530 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: And so while PJ. Washington is like going like this, 531 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: like crazy with the tech, Chris Paul just very calmly 532 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: gives a TECH back to the referee. What a guy that, 533 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you can get away with that. 534 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: When you've played as long as Chris Paul and you've 535 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: been the president of the Players Union and stuff like that, 536 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: it is a weird. It looks funny because we had 537 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: three people basically giving the tech signal all within like 538 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: a five second span. 539 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: I guess it wasn't Scott Foster. 540 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't Scott. I forget, I forget the name of 541 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: this official. It wasn't Scott. He would be kicked out, 542 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: you're right, but then Chris Paul would have kicked him out. 543 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: Oh interesting. We need a best Chris Paul referee moments 544 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 3: pack put together because there was that time. Who did 545 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: he notice that had their jersey untucked for knowing the 546 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: jersey rules. That's got to make the list. This would 547 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: make the list. Funny stuff. 548 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: There's gotta be numerous examples of him, you know, officiating 549 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: a game. I said Lucas triple double, his run ended 550 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: at seven games. He only played thirty minutes due to 551 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: a tender left hamstring. That's something to watch. Jason Kidd 552 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: said he wasn't sure if Luca would make the trip 553 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: to OKC they played tonight. That's a back to back 554 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: situation for Dallas. That is also a nationally televised game. 555 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: That one's on TNT, So my gut would say, Lucas 556 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: sits this one out, but keep your eye on that. 557 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: Obviously they need him moving forward. But you know, he 558 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: sort of came back in for a second. He's like, nope, nope. 559 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: Didn't matter in the end because they got the win. 560 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: But that always sucks. And then finally, Daniel Gafford made 561 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: all five baskets last night to push his streak to 562 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: thirty three field goals made in a row. Those dreamy 563 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: eyes staring down Wilt Chamberlain for the best run of 564 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: consecutive made baskets in NBA history. Gafferd just two away 565 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: from tying that all time mark. It's wild when you 566 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: do the little deep dive into shot selection for Daniel Gafford. 567 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: Seventeen of Gafford's thirty three straight buckets have been dunks, 568 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: including all five last night in the win. Thirty one 569 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: of them have come with at least one foot inside 570 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: the restricted area, so we're talking basically all dunks and layups. 571 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: Of those, maybe three or four have been contested with 572 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: someone even near him. He is not a jump shooter. 573 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: In fact, when you look at the numbers. Three hundred 574 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: and sixty six of his three hundred and seventy six 575 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: attempts have come from inside the paint this season, and 576 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: most of those within like the four foot little restricted area. 577 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: He's only taken sixty nine shots this entire season that 578 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: weren't a layup or dunk. I mean, this is all 579 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: this guy does. Hey, do what you're good at. Right. 580 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: CBS Sports inform me that Gafford is on track to 581 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: own the NBA's all time mark for career field goal 582 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: percentage among all players to attempt at least two thousand shots. 583 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan, at sixty seven point four percent, has the 584 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: best you know rate from the field in NBA history 585 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: again two thousand attempts. Gafford is at just over fifteen 586 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: hundred attempts, so he's got a little bit to go 587 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: until we hit that two thousand shot mark. But he's 588 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: currently posting a seventy point six career field goal percentage, 589 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: so this might be something in play hero and especially 590 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: if he's playing with Luca Yeah, for the next couple 591 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: of years that he might become the all time leader 592 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: in field goal percentage for career rear and then of 593 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: course he's trying to chase Wilt here and uh, at 594 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: this point, he's just got to do it. Just he 595 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: won't take a shot. Just don't take a shot unless 596 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: it's a dunk. 597 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 3: Totally. 598 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: He really is going to have to get blocked. I 599 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: think for this to snap here in like maybe the 600 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: next game or. 601 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: The one after that. You said they got the thunder next. Yes, 602 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: it's a good shot blocker. No Luca too, Maybe no Luca. Yeah, 603 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: this is a huge test for Daniel. 604 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Test, big test tonight. Keep your eyes on TNT. They 605 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: had better have a Gafford counter on the screen. 606 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 607 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: Again with his beautiful eyes, maybe they're on the screen 608 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: as a bug as he ticks up hopefully catches Wilt. 609 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: It'd be very funny if Daniel Gefford has this record. 610 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: I really I'm hoping for it. 611 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: I think I think it'll happen. So I think he's 612 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: going to be very judicious about his shot selection for 613 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: the next three shots that he takes. I would also 614 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: love to see I've seen a compilation of the thirty 615 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: three straight makes and you're exactly right. Yeah, he hit 616 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: like two tough shots where there's like hands in his face. 617 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: I would like to see a compilation of the times 618 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: he's dribbled since he to the Dallas Mavericks. Has it 619 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: happened yet? Does he have a dribble? I don't know. 620 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 621 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: No dribble dance. 622 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So you think, should he play it like this 623 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: tonight thunder? Obviously try and get those three, let's say, 624 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: dunks or layups to set the record to beat Wilt, 625 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: and then on that next shot he should just pull 626 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: up from half well, like take a three, just get 627 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: silly with it. You got the record, or really really 628 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: try and really try and pad that record, get it 629 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: up into the forties, maybe the fifties, something like that. 630 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see how he tackles this. 631 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't believe looking at the stats that he 632 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: is the all time leader right now. Right now, I 633 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: just just didn't didn't compute to me. I don't think 634 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: of it. Next, Yeah, could perdle. That's sixty five point 635 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 2: six percent. That's a pretty big gap. Yeah. Consider Yeah, 636 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: considering there's lots of guys who don't shoot Rudy Gobert's fourth, 637 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: So that's uh, there's lots of guys who just keep 638 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: it in the restricted area. I can't believe that. You know, 639 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: the fact, that fact is interesting that he's had one 640 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: foot in the restricted area for a lot of these shots. 641 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: The stats are out there. Yeah, CBS Sports helping me 642 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: out this morning with that. The other games we had 643 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: mechic the Rooks scoring a career best twenty five, Hornets 644 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: beat the Grizzlies one ten ninety eight. Pella Bancaro twenty 645 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: one led the Magic over the Nets one fourteen, one 646 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: oh six, Anthony Simons and DeAndre Ayton, who's on a 647 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: heater right now he had thirty three. Portland beat the 648 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Hawks one six, one two despite Dejeantey Murray with a 649 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: big game and then Jalen Duran career high twenty three rebounds. 650 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: That's a lot of roast beef as. 651 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: The Pistons beat the Raps one thirteen, one oh four 652 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: for their third win and four and a big win 653 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: in the net dust Bowl standings task taking the lead 654 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: back from me and my Wizards. Any thoughts on any 655 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: of those. 656 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: Games, Well, Jalen Duran twenty four and twenty three for 657 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: a twenty year old triple twenties, that's impressive stuff for them. 658 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: One two in a row for the third time this season, 659 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: but three and four that's the first time they done 660 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: that all season long. So they're winning basketball games. Dean Drayton, 661 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: he's a march man. This is what he turns. 662 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: Man. 663 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: I think it doesn't matter. Let me get those. 664 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: Stets, let me he's like. 665 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: I think this is like three games in a row 666 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: that he's put up some months or numbers. He's going 667 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: to be winning somebody, uh a fantasy championship here as 668 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: you get into the to the home stretch and maybe 669 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: even I don't know when the postseason starts for some 670 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: of these leagues. 671 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 3: Doesn't kill you on free throws. 672 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Maybe won a game. He's good when he's playing like this, 673 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: But you think it's just, uh, you're not going to 674 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: be banking on this at the start of next year. 675 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: No, that's why Phoenix said, we're ready to go. Unfortunately, 676 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: that's been the story of Dean Drayton's career. Hasn't jibed 677 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: with many people and dribed with somebody. I guess he 678 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: didn't get it along with Monty Williams all that much. Anyways, 679 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: we are here in this year six of jan Drayton's career. 680 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a talented guy, he signed that monster deal, 681 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: but I can't be a number one guy until March. 682 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: Then you just give them the ball. Let's just go 683 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: for it, man. 684 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Since coming back from a little injury there, he's 685 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: had games of thirty and nineteen, twenty two and fifteen, 686 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: and then last night thirty three and nineteen. He's killing 687 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: it open. This was against the Raptors, the Celtics and 688 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: the Hawks, and two of those in wins for Portland too, 689 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: so it's actually helping him out there. 690 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Paul. Chris Paul's just on a podcast. I 691 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: want him on another podcast where he's asked about his 692 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: relationship with Deandrayton. Did you like him? Do you hate him? 693 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Tell me why you hated him? Yeah? Uh, do you. 694 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: Have any thoughts on any of those games? 695 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'll call him Bradley Cooper because Vasa Michic is 696 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: the maestro. Twenty five points, eight assists, nine for ten 697 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: from the field, five for six from three had the 698 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: Serbian connection working with Poku. I don't know why the 699 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: Thunder could never unlock that duo, but they assisted each 700 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: other at least three times in this game, and michich 701 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: was just cooking. It was like pick and roll every 702 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 3: single time with him, and he was just finding the 703 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: pocket pass every time. The guys you've never heard of, 704 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: like it was Michich versus Trey Jenison out there. Stay 705 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: tuned for some shorts coming out because there's some random 706 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: names going on in a Hornet's Grizzlies game right now. 707 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is there ever? And I think Ziller 708 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: brought this up in his newsletter. Hopefully he's playing for Serbia. 709 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: Come come the summer here with some some Yokic and 710 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: some Poku's and uh, you can play. I mean he 711 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: really can. So great game from him. Let's take a break. 712 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: Hold on good No. 713 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: No, no, watch, No it's not it's. 714 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: Not on Netflix. Yeah, it's I do. 715 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: I would not recommend it. I did not like it. It 716 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: felt a little too much like Bradley Cooper was really 717 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: going for his uh, for his Oscar. He did it all. 718 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he directed it. I think he produced it. 719 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: He's obviously. 720 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: Though, Oh but it's his. It's his movie, is my point, 721 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: Cooper's movie, and it's it's not that great. It's not 722 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: all black and white. 723 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: Shots I've seen. 724 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's there some black and white I don't 725 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: think the whole thing was nice. I think there's a 726 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: little color in it. Okay, quick break, when we come 727 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: back MBA Awards talk, don't go anywhere. Well, it's our 728 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: lucky day because John Schuman is in the chat. He 729 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: is in the stream team, and he's dropping nuggets left 730 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: and right. Because we got all these questions about guys 731 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: and how little they dribble and overtime games for a season. 732 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: Give me some of the Schumann stats here. 733 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: Fat's in the chat. Brought to you by John Schuman. 734 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 3: Most overtime wins. The two thousand, two thousand and one 735 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: Sacramento Kings won nine overtime games. I just looked, they 736 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: played twelve overtime games. Okay, most overtime losses the two 737 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: thousand and two thousand and one Clippers. I wonder if 738 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: they played each other in overtime. I'll check into that. 739 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: And also the nineteen fifty two to fifty three Bullets. 740 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: They both lost ten overtime games in those seasons. So 741 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 3: that's a crazy one. Let's scroll down here. This one 742 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: was just tossed in, not even requested. He went oh 743 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: and eight against the top four seeds in the Western Conference. 744 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 3: The only other winless teams against that group are the 745 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: Blazers and Wizards. Can't be encouraging if you're betting on 746 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: the Heat to win the NBA Championship this season. That 747 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: was just a free one. Thank you for Josh Shuman. 748 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: That's just one. He's like, I don't I don't even 749 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna put this in the power rankings. I got too much. 750 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: I'll just chuck it in the stream team chat, all right, 751 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: thanks Sho. 752 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 3: He also mentions that the Kings and Wolves haven't won 753 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: a playoff series since two thousand and four, and the 754 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 3: Hornets also haven't won a series since two thousand and four, 755 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 3: which was the year the Bobcats were born. 756 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Holy, Holy, Holy. 757 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: That one's just another free one for you. And then 758 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: we're talking dribbles. No dribble Dan Daniel Gafford has averaged 759 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: zero point two eight dribbles per touch since joining the 760 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks. Derek Lively has actually averaged fewer zero point 761 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: two zero dribbles per touch per touch. 762 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a very little dribbling. 763 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe like a dribble handoff, catch the ball at 764 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 3: the top of the key, dribbled then handed to Kyrie 765 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: or Luke had to do something rolled there and. 766 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: Great stats, incredible statue. We'll find you another podcast that 767 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: has NBA's own John Schumann live dropping nuggets like that. 768 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: You can't. 769 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: You can't. 770 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: Right now they're saying, nug me up, John. 771 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: I will say I. 772 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: Watched, uh, just randomly flipping through the guide last night. 773 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: There was early games on, and then I was waiting 774 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: for some Survivor and I saw on ESPN News the 775 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: Zach Low podcast. 776 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: It's on TV. 777 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was him and Pelton. You know, it's just 778 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: their podcast. But just you know, put into television form. 779 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: Every media company is doing. You guys, record a podcast, 780 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 2: put it on our television. They're doing it. Schumann recorded 781 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 2: up pod with Sarah Coustak, I do believe recently, if 782 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. 783 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, they usually they usually do. 784 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 2: Not on TV though, Sorry, you can't put Schuman on TV. 785 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, can't you? 786 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: Oh that Derek Lively Mark by the way, lowis dribbles 787 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: per touch in the league. Whyt who That one came 788 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 3: from Allen's from Shuman, Alan is from Schumann. Point two 789 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 3: here in public says she ought to know. Jack said, 790 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: but not as you ought to know. Now that sounds 791 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 3: like a television segment. Right, you want to know, we 792 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 3: got a C block with your name on it. John, Oh, 793 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 3: this is great. 794 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 1: Uh, let's get into some NBA Awards, the odds, the predictions. Uh, 795 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: we have fewer than twenty games to play, which is, 796 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little shocking to some. But here's 797 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: where all of the current NBA Awards racists stand. I 798 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: feel in going through this that like maybe four, if 799 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: not five, of these are already wrapped up. But I'm 800 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: interested to hear your guys takes and everybody joining us 801 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: live on YouTube board listening to the podcast later. So 802 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: we'll move through these with some pace because we talked 803 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: about them a lot. But the MVP right now, Jokich 804 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: is still the favorite minus two seventy five. Then we 805 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: have SGA plus four hundred and Luka coming up with 806 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: plus eight hundred. Trey. I know where you stand on this. 807 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: You believe Jokicic's what nine nine percent gonna win his 808 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: third MVP here in four years? Is that too high? 809 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: Does SGA like, could the thunder get the number one 810 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: seed and would that be enough to sway some people? 811 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: What do you think? 812 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 3: Well? I don't think Jokic will be unanimous by any means, 813 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: but he was the leader in the NBA or in 814 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: the MVP straw pole that Tim Bontemps does over a ESPN. 815 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 3: He was the leader most recently, though. I think he 816 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 3: said at the time that if you're the leader in 817 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 3: that one, you don't win usually true. True, But then 818 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: we saw Jokic have a massive game against the Celtics 819 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 3: in a big spot, so that to me is when 820 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 3: he won it. It's like a Heisman Trophy moment that 821 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 3: people always talk about. But Shay definitely has a case, 822 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 3: especially at the thunder do end with the one seed. 823 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 3: Ironically enough, like he will be ahead of Jokic and 824 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 3: a lot of advanced stats, which is usually where Jokic 825 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: has made his hay in some of these MVP votes. 826 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: But I think that Jokic is kind of widely recognized 827 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 3: as the best player in the league right now, and 828 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 3: the Nuggets have turned it on in the back half 829 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 3: of the season here, Jokic putting up great numbers as well, 830 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 3: and the Nuggets are winning a bunch of games, and 831 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 3: his defense has been pretty solid as well. So I 832 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be yokicch. 833 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 2: Three and four years. It sure feels like that's gonna 834 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: happen here in March, which is odd because late earlier 835 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: on before Yokitch went on this run, we're all we 836 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: and everybody out there was giving it to. Shay was 837 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: given it to you know me, a little little Luca 838 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 2: Yannis was in there. But now it's it's become locked. 839 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 2: So it is it all doesn't really matter in January, 840 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. Ohough, it's fun to talk about. 841 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: I remember talking to the great to Kenmy Matumba on 842 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 2: our show. It was the Starters he was on in 843 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: early January. We asked him, was Lebron is gonna win 844 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: the MVP? It was twenty eighteen. He didn't want to 845 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: answer that. 846 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 3: He said it's too early, man. 847 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 2: Basically is what he said is too early. He's right, 848 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 2: He's right. It was a little too early. But now 849 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: it's it feels like even with a month left, which 850 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 2: kind of goes with with what I'm arguing here that 851 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: it's too early. Doesn't feel like it's too early for 852 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: Nikola jokicch feels like he's got it at this point. 853 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: Do you think I don't know the thunder just go 854 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: on a crazy run here to end and win the 855 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 1: West by a handful of games. Would that be enough 856 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: to persuade people to vote for him? I mean'd be deserving, 857 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: would he not? If they had the number one seed 858 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: with his stats? Let's, you know, throw in another SGA 859 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: game winner or two. Like, I'm with you, it feels 860 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: like it's like, maybe not ninety nine percent locked up, 861 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: but it feels like it's like ninety percent going to 862 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: go to Jokic. But I think there's a small, small 863 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: chance that SGA could get it. Unlikely as it is. 864 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 2: You're right, and his defense is freaking great. Yeah, I 865 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: think people people don't include that in his conversation. Jokic 866 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 2: is good too, There's no doubt. But Shay is awesome 867 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 2: on both ends. 868 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. The odds favor when Yama. I 869 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: couldn't believe by how much though. 870 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 2: I can't believe that. 871 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was a typo. I was like, where, 872 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: this is a freaking joke? Okay, wellmen, Yama for Rookie 873 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: of the Year. Who I mean, I've been saying for 874 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: a very long time. He is gonna win this and 875 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: is deserving of it. But minus ten thousand, then chet 876 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: Holmgren who's having an incredible Rookie of the Year, would 877 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: win it most other years. He's plus twenty five hundred, 878 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: and then Brandon Miller's got to put a third name 879 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: on the list. He's plus fifty thousand. Don't vote on 880 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: fifty thousand. 881 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 3: That was just a wild odds. 882 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so you guys, it sounds like you 883 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: were just as shocked that. Yeah, as much as we 884 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: think wemen Yama is gonna get this, it's a little 885 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: glaring the difference in odds, is it not. 886 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you literally have to put down ten thousand dollars 887 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 2: to win one hundred. 888 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: Don't do that. 889 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: If you want to bet on Victor Remenyama, you literally 890 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 2: have to put on put down ten thousand dollars to 891 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 2: win just one hundred dollars. I would never do that. 892 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: I'd be more inclined to put down one hundred dollars 893 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: to win fifty thousand for Brandon Miller. But there ain't 894 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: wait either, Oh, there ain't no way you're gonna win. Yeah, 895 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: you know you could. You'd probably be I guess smarter 896 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: if you're gambling to put it on Chet Holmgren. I mean, 897 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 2: these are more this is more gambling line than actual 898 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 2: guys who are gonna win for sure. You know, it 899 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 2: has less to do with the voting and more has 900 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: more to do with the dollar dollar bills and who 901 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: where people are putting money. But it definitely feels like women, Yeah, 902 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 2: it's gonna win this thing, but like the bed not 903 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: a bad one. Yeah. 904 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the odds exploded. It felt like in favor of 905 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: Wmen Yama even more when they had that last matchup 906 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: and they both put up good numbers, but Wenby sort 907 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: of got the best of them, had that crazy block 908 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,399 Speaker 1: on them. You know that helped his case. He's going 909 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: to win. I'm curious to see just check it, or 910 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: how many first place votes he gets. I think he will. 911 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: I think I think people will be like, you know, 912 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: look at the numbers are aren't similar, and he's on 913 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: a better team than Women Yama and maybe they are 914 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: the number one seedt or whatever, top through whatever, so 915 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: he might get a few. But Women Yama, tray is 916 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: your is your pick? I assumed to win this overall? 917 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean might as well bet on him. You're 918 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 3: gonna win. You're gonna win pennies, yeah, maybe dimes, depending 919 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: on how much he anty up, but minus ten thousand, 920 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 3: it's I don't know, plus fifty thousand looks hilarious, my guy, 921 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 3: Brad Miller. 922 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. All right, Let's move 923 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: on to defense. Rudy Gobert is the odds on favorite 924 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: still minus nine hundred to win another Defensive Player of 925 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: the Year, when Ben Yama second plus seven hundred and 926 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: then Jared Allen in third at plus three thousand. Rudy, 927 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, leads the league in defensive win shares and 928 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: defensive raiding, and he holds down the middle for the 929 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: best defensive team in the league. He leads the league 930 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: an opponent field goal percentage inside six feet. You know, 931 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 1: it's tough to score on this guy. He ranks second 932 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: in the league in rebounds, just to Sabonis. He averages 933 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: almost thirteen per game. So I think this is going 934 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: to be the pick for sure here, and the odds 935 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: makers agree with that. 936 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 3: Your takeaway, yeah, I think it's smart that they put 937 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 3: Wemby in here at plus seven hundred. More likely to 938 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: get action on that than a minus ten thousand, because 939 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 3: I don't think when be Yama is gonna win it, 940 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 3: but he's leading the league in shop blocking and he 941 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: might actually be the best defensive player in the league, 942 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 3: but his team's defense is pretty poor, so there's no 943 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: chance he really has of winning it, though. I do 944 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 3: think he will get some votes, and I think Gobert 945 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 3: is the right choice because of the way that the 946 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,959 Speaker 3: timber Wolves have had the top defense in the league 947 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,959 Speaker 3: basically the entire season because of Rudy Gobert, and that's 948 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: one of the main reasons they're so high in the 949 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,479 Speaker 3: Western Conference. I think he is a deserving choice. 950 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just took us like one year later. We 951 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: thought this was going to be the case last year 952 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: with Rudy Gobert when he went to Minnesota, and then 953 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't. They weren't that, you know, elite defensively, but 954 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: they obviously are this year and you think they'll win. 955 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: They got the narrative, that's for sure, and that helps 956 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: when voting for the defensive player. Although defensive wind chiars 957 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 2: and all that matters, it is the most difficult award 958 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: to assess by stats imo. But Gobert is awesome, that 959 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 2: is totally clear. And he says that he thinks that 960 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: there's some fixing within the gambling, so I wonder if 961 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 2: he bets on. 962 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: Himself here yeah or not? 963 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? You're gonna win? 964 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: Why not? I don't think it's legal. 965 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: It's probably not legal, but he knows somebody, like when 966 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 2: he complains that a referee doesn't do it, are the 967 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: referee or or referees could be putting money in that. 968 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 2: He knows that somebody could be giving a referee money 969 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 2: as he could beat it through through. 970 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 3: His friend intermediaries. 971 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if he, if. 972 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: He or when he, I guess. Rudy Gobert wins his 973 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: fourth Defensive Player of the Year. That joins rare company 974 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: to Ken Bay and Ben Wallace, the only other two 975 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: guys to have four of those trophies. Dwight has three, uh, 976 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: which Rudy obviously has right now. He won an eighteen 977 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty one and then Rudy could possibly win here 978 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: in twenty three twenty four season. Well, it's pretty crazy 979 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: and like who's to say. I mean when Yama the 980 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: good thing about him being second, it's like with Defensive 981 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, it is always like it's like 982 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: a year or two late. So you got to get 983 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: on these lists and that really helps his chances. Maybe 984 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: next year when Yama to win it if the Spurs 985 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: are better and there are team defenses better and obviously 986 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: his stat are similar. But man, Rudy like he might 987 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: have I don't know, I guess he could have another. 988 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he have another, possibly one or two in 989 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: them to break the tie if he goes on to 990 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: win this fourth one with the Kembay and ben Walls. 991 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: You're right though, would have to happen quickly, But yeah, 992 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 3: Yembanyama will start winning them pretty soon. Like if the 993 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: Spurs somehow finished top fifteen in defense and Wenby is 994 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 3: playing the way he did this season, he would probably 995 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 3: win it. 996 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rudy has changed since last year. It just in 997 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 2: terms of guarding space. Look at the teams that go 998 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 2: up against the Timberwolves and the way they shoot threes 999 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 2: and watching that guy come out, I mean, he's he's 1000 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: just way more nimble. But Wemby's coming for him, that's 1001 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: for sure. 1002 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: Sixth Man of the Year Malik Monk is the favorite 1003 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: minus three point fifty. At least this one's a little 1004 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: closer though. Norman Powell plus four to fifty and Nas 1005 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: Reid drop your nas Red in the chat plus eleven 1006 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: hundred but it feels like Malik Monk's last couple of 1007 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: weeks maybe reinforced his chances to win his first sixth 1008 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: Man of the Year. He's obviously been on that list before, 1009 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: but he is the leader among backups in clutch scoring 1010 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: average something I think Monk. I have been saying this 1011 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: one for a long time, especially around January. I thought 1012 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: the odds were really good then. I think they were 1013 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: like plus eight hundred for him, and I think he's 1014 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: sort of taken this over as some of these other 1015 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: names have slid a little bit or haven't. Maybe you know, 1016 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior was in discussion for a while, Bobby 1017 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: Portus's name, Caros Lavert. You've brought up Trey Jordan Clarkson 1018 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: has monster games sometimes off the bench. But I think 1019 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: Monk I think he's deserving too, you know, I've said before, 1020 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: and the clutch sort of stats back it up. His 1021 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: points just for whatever reason in games feel a little 1022 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 1: bit more significant at times to me. But thoughts on 1023 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 1: six man. 1024 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm definitely good with Monk. I'm definitely kind of good 1025 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 2: with Norman Powell, to be honest, He's awesome. He was 1026 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 2: up there in voting last year. He was fourth and 1027 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 2: Monk was fifth. Surprisingly I totally skipped my mind, but 1028 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: both those guys extremely deserving and both have played in 1029 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 2: a ton of games here sixty three and sixty four respectively. 1030 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 2: Does that factor into voting, I guess not, but it 1031 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 2: showed a little bit if you play that many games 1032 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 2: and all on the bench. Primarily, basically every single game 1033 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: that leak Munk has played has come off the bench. 1034 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,919 Speaker 2: It isn't one of those weird situations where you start 1035 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 2: a bunch of games. 1036 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: Well like nas Reed right now is getting more opportunity 1037 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: with the Karl Anthony Towns injury and sometimes that you know, 1038 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 1: it can goose numbers and stuff like that. But yeah, 1039 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: Monk is a he is a certified six man, so 1040 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: his Powell. I think he only started one game. Yeah, 1041 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 1: thats only has one start as well, does he Okay, yeah, 1042 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: but that's why I caught myself. I was gonna say 1043 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: he's getting more starts, but I they're actually not starting him. 1044 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 3: And he had a great game, yeah when he started 1045 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 3: twenty five points, but then he went back to the bench, 1046 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 3: so only scored six in a big win over the Clippers. 1047 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 3: I think nas Reid could make a little run here 1048 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 3: at the end of the season, just because, like you're saying, 1049 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 3: Towns is out. So it wouldn't be surprising to see 1050 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 3: Reid in the closing lineup with the Timberwolves. And he's 1051 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 3: got a fun game to watch as well. He plays 1052 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 3: like a guard even though he's there. Four slash five. 1053 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like one of the first awards we've 1054 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: talked about that it's still like could be decided. I 1055 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: think Monk will win, but yeah, you're right, owl Raid, 1056 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: maybe one of those other guys those first three awards 1057 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: we talked about. I mean, it feels like it's gonna 1058 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 1: be Yoll, Kic, Wemby, and Gobert winning their respective awards. 1059 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: This next one, though, might still be open. Most improved. 1060 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: Tyres Maxie is still the favorite last I checked minus 1061 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: one forty five, Kobe White though right behind him plus 1062 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: one ten, and then Jadub Jaell and Williams on the 1063 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: Thunder plus three thousand, So it's a two man race. TK. 1064 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 1: For a long time, you've been thinking Kobe White, will 1065 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe should be the front runner. Maybe we'll 1066 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: win this. There's a fair debate here. Obviously, both guys 1067 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: have had great improved seasons, but maybe make the case 1068 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: for Kobe. 1069 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 3: Well, Koby White is the most improved. I think that 1070 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 3: that's clear. But Tyrese Maxie is most similar to recent 1071 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 3: Most Improved winners, going from a good player to an 1072 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 3: All Star, largely because he played the first thirty four 1073 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: games of the season with Joel Embiid and he was 1074 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 3: the perfect yeah guy right next to him. But Maxie's 1075 00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 3: field goal percentages down, three point percentages down. I mean, 1076 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 3: he's scoring a little bit more because he's taken more shots, 1077 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 3: but Kobe White's percentages, all of them are up. He's 1078 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 3: scoring ten points more per game this season, and he 1079 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 3: looks like a real player now rather than maybe a 1080 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 3: bench guard. So to me, he is the most improved guy. 1081 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 3: Maxi a little bit of an Embiid merchant, but I 1082 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 3: love Maxi as well, so I don't really want to 1083 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 3: diss him too hard here. But I think Kobe White 1084 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: would have won this award in twenty fourteen. 1085 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: You oh, back in the day, Yeah, back when. 1086 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 3: The most improved player won rather than the best player 1087 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 3: who improved as well. 1088 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: True, Maxi has seen his odds get considerably worse over 1089 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. You know, he was again, 1090 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: he's down to minus one forty five. It was like 1091 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: minus five to fifty, so he was really the favorite. 1092 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: He missed four seven games in March because of the concussion. 1093 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: Sixers have stumbled in the standings. His numbers are great, 1094 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,399 Speaker 1: twenty six, six and four. He never turns the ball 1095 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: over for a lead guard. But Kobe White is up 1096 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: to like basically averaging twenty five and four, hitting thirty 1097 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: nine percent of his his three pointers. Those are all 1098 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: career best. And Trey, like you said, it's like he's proven, 1099 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: he's shown. He's like, oh, this guy is a this 1100 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: guy's an NBA starter. When we were wondering how long 1101 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: is this guy gonna be around the league? Like okay, 1102 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: he's like he's okay, but he's put it together. Tassen, 1103 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a close vote. I think just 1104 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: this year maxium one. 1105 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because it is two different types of way 1106 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 2: of looking at a most improved player, with MAXI going 1107 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 2: to the All Star Game for the first time and 1108 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 2: Kobe White being younger at year number five. Though I 1109 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 2: think year five is acceptable. I mean, you just made 1110 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 2: Trey made me go back into those years where they 1111 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 2: were giving it to guys who looked a little more 1112 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 2: most improved. Aaron Brooks, remember him, He won this thing 1113 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: in his in his third year when he scored nineteen 1114 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 2: and a half points. But he came back to Earth, 1115 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 2: not a nice earth, I guess for him the rest 1116 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 2: of his career. I mean really, he scored nineteen a 1117 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 2: half points that year. There wasn't another year where he 1118 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,760 Speaker 2: scored twelve or more in his fairly long career, eleven 1119 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 2: year career. So Kobe White, I do think, is different 1120 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 2: than Aaron Brooks. He's going to be good for a 1121 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 2: long time in this league, so it is different. It's 1122 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 2: two different types of thinking. And Jonathan Kuminga also fits 1123 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 2: this different type of thinking. He is younger, earlier in 1124 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 2: his career, but it has gotten a lot better, and 1125 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 2: so he's gonna get some votes. 1126 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: He'll get on some ballots for sure. Yea next one 1127 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: coach of the year. Here are your front runners according 1128 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: to the odds makers OKCS Deagnault, all right, he is 1129 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: your favorite minus three hundred. You got the Celtics Joe 1130 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 1: Missoula at plus four fifty, and then the Timberwolves Finch 1131 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: at plus five hundred. Bloody good coach that Finch. Okay, 1132 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: And maybe there's another coach that you want in the 1133 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,760 Speaker 1: mix here, but this one is I don't think wrapped 1134 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 1: up by any means. But maybe I'm wrong. You think 1135 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: dag Nalt's gonna win for okay? See probably? 1136 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I would say probably just because Thunder expectations were 1137 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 3: pretty high this season. But I think they've still exceeded 1138 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 3: those expectations. Obviously younger, and they're dealing with a new 1139 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 3: piece and chat Holmngring coming in as a starter as 1140 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 3: a five, buying into it and looking awesome. Whereas the 1141 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 3: Celtics also, I think Joe Mizula has a really good case. 1142 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 3: But we expected the Celtics to be good. Everybody expected 1143 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 3: them to finish first in the Eastern Conference. They've got 1144 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 3: great continuity, though things have changed for them as well, 1145 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 3: bringing in Drew Holiday, bringing in Christaps Porzingis, who has 1146 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 3: been in and out of the line off this season. 1147 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 3: But I think that the Thunder being expected to be 1148 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 3: a little worse than the Celtics probably puts Mark Dagnaut 1149 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 3: all over the top. 1150 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. The surprise is always predominant when you're 1151 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 2: looking at coach of the year it can, but I 1152 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 2: mean those help. 1153 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: We keep saying surprise with okay, see, but there was 1154 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: a lot of talk coming into the season about them 1155 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: being really good, not this. 1156 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: Not close to this number one seed for a lot 1157 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 2: see a. 1158 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: Lot of chatter about them being like a top four 1159 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: team in the West, which of course they are. 1160 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 2: Play the tape. I want to hear that. I don't 1161 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: remember them being this good in the chats at all. 1162 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: But anyway, Dagnel has been very, very good. Can't wait 1163 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 2: to see him in his first real postseason. That's going 1164 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 2: to be interesting for them. Uh. But yeah, we just 1165 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 2: talked about most improved player and Jay Dubb being a 1166 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 2: part of that. They they've helped Dagnall obviously, but this 1167 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 2: team plays on both ends. So I do think he'll 1168 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 2: he'll win it over on Missoula. Who's he's done well, 1169 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: Let's be honest. When he's been given the keys to 1170 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 2: this team that Udoka wasn't allowed to coach anymore, people wondered, 1171 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 2: can can this guy do it? And the thing is, 1172 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna win it just because of it. 1173 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 2: The team was so freaking good right before he got 1174 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 2: the keys. But they gave him the job. Brad Stevens 1175 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 2: gave him the job because he knew his team was 1176 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 2: gonna believe in him, and they obviously have. 1177 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: I will just say I don't think the odds difference 1178 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,720 Speaker 1: between Dagnall with okay See and Finch with the Wolves 1179 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: should be that vast right, because last year Minnesota was 1180 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: forty two and forty okay See was forty and forty two. 1181 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,799 Speaker 1: They basically had the same record. They played in a 1182 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: playing game to get the final spot and the Wolves 1183 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 1: crushed them. So they went in and they you know, 1184 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: put up a decent fight against the Nuggets, but they 1185 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: only won one game in that playoff series, so they 1186 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: won a handful more games. Like, the expectations were fairly similar, 1187 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,879 Speaker 1: and we were coming in with I mean, at least 1188 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: I was with a lot of questions about the Wolves 1189 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: with the makeup of their team is finished the right guy? 1190 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: Can can he make this work? And you know they 1191 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,399 Speaker 1: have an identity of course that they found that they're 1192 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: the best defense, So I think he deserves them credit. 1193 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: I just think he should be maybe a little higher. 1194 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: And they're still battling for the number one seed and 1195 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: if they actually get it, you know, without Karl Anthony 1196 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: Towns there over the final stretch, they'd be pretty impressive. 1197 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: So I just think the odds are a little odd. 1198 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: I think Dagnell will win and it will be a 1199 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: great winner, and then the final one. You know, it's great. 1200 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: We almost started the show with this and we're ending 1201 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: with it. Clutch Player of the Year. I think the 1202 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: odds flipped last night because when I was making this 1203 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 1: our show and this block last night, I saw Steph 1204 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: Curry as the favorite. But as of this morning, Derozen 1205 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: now minus one sixty five, Curry plus one seventy, and 1206 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard plus eighteen hundred. I think Sga and Jokic, 1207 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, have some some long odds as well. But 1208 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: did DeRozan win it last night with that fato a 1209 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 1: jumper and big overtime performance. You bring up the clutch 1210 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 1: wins for the Bulls. He's a huge part of it. It 1211 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 1: feels like every game is because of him. 1212 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Curry did nothing in the clutch last night 1213 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 3: for the war. Yeah, Well, DeRozan is second in clutch 1214 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 3: points per game and in total points, Curry is number one. 1215 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 3: DeRozan shoots fifty two percent in the clutch, Curry shoots 1216 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 3: forty nine percent. But the big difference is that DeRozan 1217 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 3: is a plus seventy six in one hundred and sixty 1218 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 3: six clutch minutes this season, Steph Curry plus three in 1219 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty two minutes. So I mean DeRozan 1220 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 3: is being helped by the Bulls have a really solid 1221 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 3: defense in clutch time. But his just like Malik Monk, 1222 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 3: his points are more important for the Bulls right now 1223 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 3: because they're actually coming out on top of a lot 1224 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 3: of these games. 1225 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just looking at the voting from last season 1226 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 2: and Darren Fock beat Jimmy Butler and Demarto Rosen who 1227 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 2: was third, who two years ago was the guy that 1228 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 2: people were looking at as the spectacle, the guy who 1229 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 2: hit those back to back winners on New Year's Eve 1230 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 2: and then New Year's Day. It was awesome. So maybe 1231 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: he wins just because, you know, give him an award. 1232 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 2: Oh he almost got. 1233 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: This is like a Robert Downey Junior award here for him. 1234 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: Respect the respect here. He's been very good this year. 1235 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 1: But we're also taking into consideration your previous year's work. 1236 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think it's still up in the air, like, 1237 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: of course, Steph Curry isn't there going to come back here? 1238 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: Could he have a couple huge you know, clutch performances 1239 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: still left in his bag and some game winners. Yes, 1240 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's Steph. So I think this one's still 1241 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: a bit of a toss up. But DeRozan makes sense 1242 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: to be in the lead right now and over the 1243 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: last over the last couple of years, DeRozan is on 1244 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: the short list every year for this because he just 1245 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 1: takes over gets to a spot. He's money up the 1246 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: line when he gets there generally, So yeah, DeRozan is 1247 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: your favorite right now for Clutch Player of the Year, 1248 00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: but that'd be fun to look at. 1249 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 2: And overall just total points, he his second in clutch 1250 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 2: game points just to Steph Furry and then yeah, third 1251 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 2: is way back with Damian Lillard. So thanks to John 1252 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 2: Schuman for putting that together. Because I'm on NBA dot Com. 1253 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 2: That's where it all happened, and that's where dearon Fox 1254 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: was awesome last year. Fourth quarter Fox one hundred and 1255 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 2: ninety four clutch points last year, and that's why he 1256 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 2: won the thing. 1257 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to tweet of the. 1258 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 2: Night tweet of the night. 1259 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: Wow tweeted the night comes from at Noah Dalzell NBA, 1260 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: who informed me at least that Jason Tatum is publishing 1261 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: a children's book, and there it is. Tatum wrote, I 1262 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: Guess along with a man named Sam Apple Baby dunks 1263 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: a lot. So this book is coming out in August. 1264 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 3: I guess. 1265 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: Pre order available now, he said on his Instagram post, 1266 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: and I guess. Tatum also tweeted it Deuce and I 1267 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: together all the time, So this is something I've loved 1268 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: working on and it just reminded me. Man, there's a 1269 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: lot of NBA players that have written children's books. He 1270 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 1: joins a long list. Steph Curry has at least two 1271 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: books that he's written or helped write I Am Extraordinary 1272 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,959 Speaker 1: and I Have a Superpower or Curry's books. Chris Paul 1273 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: I believe, also has two children's books, Long Shot and 1274 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: Basketball Dreams. I Think Lebron has a picture book called 1275 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: I Promise. Amari Stodamier's dabbled in the children's literature, as 1276 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: is run Our Test, as is Carmelo Anthony and Dennis 1277 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: Rodman has a book called Dennis the Wild Bull. Which 1278 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: have you guys read any of these books, either yourself 1279 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: or two your kids. 1280 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 3: The only basketball kid's book I remember having, I think 1281 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 3: was called B is for Baller. All the ones like, 1282 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 3: I've definitely done that one, and then I have read 1283 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 3: My Kids Dennis Rodman as bad as I want to do. 1284 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 3: Read It's an interesting picture book, especially the back cover. 1285 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Have you read any of these? 1286 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 2: I've got to sam an over on these ones. Not no, 1287 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 2: not not a one. It wasn't really on my bookshelf 1288 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 2: to read these. But yeah, I think I think they're 1289 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 2: all something that they should all do. 1290 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,440 Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, it sounds like there's money in 1291 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,919 Speaker 1: this for first off, so you know a lot baby 1292 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: dunks a lot. But we should write a children's book, 1293 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: something to do with the wedgie. I mean, it just 1294 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 1: feels it sounds like like a children's book, right, or 1295 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: a picture book of some sort. Yeah, let's start. Let's 1296 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: start writing that later today. 1297 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Okay. I actually liked the idea that the only other 1298 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 3: idea I ever had for a kid's book would be 1299 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 3: called There's a Rumble in My Tumble and the second 1300 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 3: line is there's a two in my boot. It's it's 1301 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 3: all about farty. 1302 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I only could come up with two lives. 1303 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean definitely. I love those kids book. It's just. 1304 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: H and there's I feel like there's got a lot 1305 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: of books about farts too, right yeah oh yeah yeah, 1306 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: and you got to make kids feel okay to Yeah yeah, 1307 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: exactly right. But man, that's actually a wedgie book is 1308 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: pretty smart because you can like tie in like everybody's different, 1309 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: just like a wedgie. 1310 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, every snowflake is different. 1311 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, there's something there, all right, you can 1312 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: pre order that tomorrow. I'll love a link for you. 1313 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: Let's call it there. That was a fun show. If 1314 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,479 Speaker 1: you're a Survivor fan, join us a little bit later 1315 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 1: in a few hours for No Buffs, our Survivor recap 1316 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: podcast breaking out last night's episode. Just hit that link 1317 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: in the show notes. He'll take you to the YouTube page. 1318 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: You can subscribe there, or search for No Bus on Apple, Spotify, 1319 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: wherever you downloaded listen to pods. Otherwise, we will see 1320 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: you tomorrow for the drop podcast. Tomorrow's Friday felt like 1321 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: today was Friday, and I also felt like yesterday was Friday. 1322 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: And I have a theory why the time change. And 1323 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: it's really nice weather here right now. There's something about 1324 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: good weather that makes me feel like it's the end 1325 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: of the week, right. I think that's what's going on Sunday. 1326 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, Tomorrow's Friday, we'll be here tennem Eastern breaking 1327 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: down tonight's games. I also have a fun idea that 1328 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to pitch these guys a little bit later, 1329 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: so we'll get into rapid fire fun as well. So 1330 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: we'll see tomorrow till that. Clipper Bros. 1331 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 3: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1332 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome. 1333 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. I remember Ruby Gobert said you 1334 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 2: shouldn't gamble, but listen to this. He didn't really say that, 1335 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 2: but he kind of said that. Anyway, listen to these 1336 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 2: potential lines. It's all about Ben Simmons. Will Ben Simmons 1337 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 2: retire before the start of the season. You can gamble 1338 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 2: on that. Will Ben Simmons played game one of next season? 1339 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 2: Just period? Will Ben Simmons beyond the Nets roster next season? 1340 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 2: You can gamble on anything. 1341 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: Don't gamble not on Ben Simmons. 1342 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 3: Well you say no, You could say no. 1343 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 1: That's probably the smarter bet brace of the day. People