1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 3: Have we ever met, I've only well, I went to 4 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: one of the Dancing with the Stars shows when you 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 3: were there, but we never like officially met. 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: When I was there for two weeks. Yeah. 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: I loved watching you though, and I love Pasha so much. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I wish I had known you before because then I 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: could have gotten some tips on what to do. 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: I just would have said, don't injure yourself. That was 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: like my main focus was to stop getting injured all 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: the time. 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: Did you get injured? I mean you won? So I 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: worth the injuries or no? 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: Worth the injuries? Yes, but like I'm still suffering years 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: later from cracked ribs and like pulling a muscle that 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: was under my ribs and my tendonitis will fly every 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: time I wear heels now I'm still but I'm like, 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: I'll do it again. 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: That is so crazy, And those are things they do 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: not tell you when they're like you should sign on 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: and like you can do as much training as you want, 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: as little training as you want, you know, whatever makes 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: you comfortable. 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's crazy because one of my girlfriends had won 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: it from the season before, and I was like, why 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: did you not prepare me? And she was like, I 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: don't think people should prepare them because then they won't 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: do it. Because the amount she just sent me like 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: a foot massage bath thing that I just like would 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: soak my feet in. But she's like, it's so worth it, 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: but like it would be scary to know how much 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: work and like injury you go through to get to 35 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: the end, Like it's crazy. 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: To get to the end. 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I was voted off first, and I had pulled out 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: my shoulder already and no one knew. 39 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: God, oh my god. It was like. 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: I don't know you were voted out first. 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Yep. 42 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh it was a double elimination, like no one was 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: eliminated the first week, second week double elimination. 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: That boom, I know. And I was having so much fun. 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. I mean, it's so nice when you 46 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: have like a good partner and you guys have like 47 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 3: a good, good chemistry and a good bond, and it's 48 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: the live tapings are so much fun. I'm like so 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: jealous because mine was during COVID, so we didn't have 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: a live audience, and I'm like what does that feel like? 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: The like energy in the room from the audience. 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: Sister, I would have loved that live audience. I don't know. 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: There is something about the performance and having people there 54 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: cheering you on. But it was, oh my gosh, it 55 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: was so scary. Yeah, yeah, I think I would have 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: been Did the nerves ever go away? Or you didn't 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: have nerves? 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: No, I definitely had nerves. I just I feel like 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 3: I would have had ten times more nerves if there 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: was a crowd and they're watching, or like if my 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: friends and family could be in there watching. But for 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: some reason, knowing that, like however many are watching at home, 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: like didn't phase me as much. I'm like, I got 64 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: some people right there like watching. But I do think 65 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: I perform better under pressure, and like the more nervous 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: I get, the better I perform because I grew up dancing. 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: So I'm like, it felt like I felt like something 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: was missing with. 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: The energy, right, I understand. 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: I understand that by the way I got to say 71 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: at being in the entertainment industry and being an actress 72 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: and having no training, and I think it's very unfair 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: the people have different levels. 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: Like I agree, you know what, I mean. 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Like professional dancers, athletes. It's just a different mindset. I think, 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: especially like Olympians. 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: It's like uh okay. 78 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Oh, and I also Bachelor's Bachelorettes. You guys are all 79 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: on fire. 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 81 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: There's the Bachelor Nation, like fans are really loyal. I 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: will say that I definitely feel like well with my 83 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: dance background, training like that had to have helped me 84 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: in some capac right. And then I feel like this 85 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: season there's so many TikTok dancers and like the two 86 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: girls from the Mormons show, I feel like all people 87 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: from you talk and dance better than anyone I've ever met. 88 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: What is that? 89 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. They're all talented and good looking and 90 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: like nice. It's bizarre. 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: They look like they have perfect lives, don't. 92 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: They perfect lives of the Mormon wives? 93 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: Right, And they're all virgins. Maybe that's something. 94 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the glow. They're all virgins. They got to 95 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: get it out somehow. Yeah, exactly, Oh my gosh, this 96 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: is true. Yeah, this season, I don't know. I'm there's 97 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: a lot of Are there any like big actors like 98 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Academy Award? 99 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: When do they announce? I think they announced the cast 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: tomorrow morning. Yep, Oh, that's exciting. Yeah, because all I 101 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: know right now is Alex Earl, the Two Right Mormon Wives. 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: And there's one actor guy that I saw. Think he's 103 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: an actor, but I don't remember his name. 104 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: Zach Efron's brother Dylan Efron's on it right or is 105 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: he alleged? 106 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: Alleged? But I feel like that is. 107 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: Yes, they keep talking about Corey Feldman. Oh really, I 108 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: want to see that. 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would see that. 110 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm there for that. 111 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: I for the cast announcement. 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm Tony. Is that his name? The singer? 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: Oh, maybe that's who I saw? Is he blonde? 114 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: Yes? 115 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's. 116 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Probably hatcheting his name, but yeah, I know. 117 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know how to say his name either. But 118 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I always get so excited for the 119 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: cast announcement because I've been watching the show since I 120 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: was oh gosh, since it came on with my mom 121 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 3: and so like it was so surreal being on it, 122 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: but then also like just still watching now knowing behind 123 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: the scenes, I've root for everybody so much harder because 124 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, I know how hard you're working. 125 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: No, that's the thing. The audience will never know how 126 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: crazy it is. It's intense. Are you still in touch 127 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: with Ardam? 128 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 129 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: I just talked to him. How long, maybe like a 130 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: couple months ago. I feel like we just you know, 131 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: like when I was on the show, it was like 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: we couldn't really bond because nobody could hang out outside 133 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: of the season because of COVID's because if you had COVID, 134 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: you were out of the competition. Oh my god. So 135 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: I feel like me and Ardam's relationship was like so 136 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: strictly dance and then we went on tour together and 137 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: we finally got to like build a friendship. So then 138 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: that was so nice. And so yeah, we we just 139 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: every once in a while just kind of check in, 140 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: how's it going. 141 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so crazy because I felt like, I mean, 142 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't on it that long obviously, but like Pasha 143 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: became my like everything. Yeah, it was like we were 144 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: in a relationship and not in a relationship. 145 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 3: I totally get that. 146 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, does everyone feel that way? Like, and 147 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: then once you're off, like you keep in touch, like 148 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: we're still friends. I'm still friends with Pasha and Danielle. 149 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: But I mean it's like all of a sudden, I 150 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: was like, wait, where's the late night text? 151 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 2: Like not in a weird way, but like no, same, 152 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: I totally get like. 153 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: And I was fine not like dating during that time, 154 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: Oh you were so yeah, he like replaced that everything 155 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: I had, like professional, I had someone there that was 156 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: caring for me, nurturing. 157 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: It was like I had it all. I was like, 158 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: I don't need sad. 159 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: They really do take on a lot as the pros, Like, 160 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: they really do take on a lot mentally, professionally, like 161 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: emotionally with because by the end, like Hardam would get 162 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: so mad at me, He's like, you can't cry every 163 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: time we talk. This was so tired, and I was 164 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: like I was like ready to be done with him 165 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: by the end. And then after like two days, I 166 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: was like, wait. 167 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I was just about to ask where 168 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: your mirror ball is? 169 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: But it's right behind you always, always, always, and. 170 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: Your finger goes right up to it. 171 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm very proud of that thing. 172 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: So I binge watched are you my first? Did I did? 173 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: What did you think? 174 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so good weight. So this is 175 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: the tough thing. 176 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of old schools, so I really enjoy Like 177 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: back when We used to wait a week to see 178 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: like what would happened, and now everything on streamers. You know, 179 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: it's on Hulu. Everything's released. Came out on August eighteenth, 180 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: so I could just watch the whole season, which I 181 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: don't know what I like better, the Weight or just 182 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: being like I can't stop watching it. 183 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing because when they said 184 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: all ten episodes were coming out, I was like, am 185 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: I sad about that? Or am I excited about that? 186 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: Because I do as well love the Weight so hate 187 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: the Weight. It is like a love hate relationship, and 188 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: so I love Binginga's show. But I was like, I 189 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: wish we would have put out two and then waited 190 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: a bit and then put out like the other seven 191 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: and then done the like finale and then have done 192 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: a reunion or something. But I never know the behind 193 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: the scenes of the whys. I'm just like, just tell 194 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: me where to go and I'll be there and I'll 195 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: do my job really well. But like, I don't know 196 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: how these the business minds think behind the scenes. 197 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: I think there are no business minds anymore. It's the 198 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: creatives are taking over. So Caitlin brist I think you 199 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: could run a network. 200 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: You should run. 201 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Hulu, because I think that's the way it should be done. 202 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: You get just enough and then you're like, sorry, you 203 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: got to wait a beat? Yeah, because I mean not 204 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: wait a long beat, like waiting for Wednesday to come out. 205 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: Season two for like what three four years? Didn't do 206 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: it for me? 207 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: That's fair. You know what season I'm waiting for? What 208 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: is this show called? Did you get into Severance? 209 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: Now? 210 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 211 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: I know, I hear. It's fabulous. 212 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: It's I didn't think I would get into it. I 213 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: watched the first four episodes and I was like, I 214 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: don't think this is for me. And then on episode 215 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 3: five it was when I was like, I don't know why. 216 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I would have keep trying, and then 217 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: I was in. And now the fact that they waited 218 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: like three years in between season one and two, and 219 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: then I got to Binge season one and two, and 220 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: now I'm waiting for season three and I'm like very 221 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: excited about it. But yeah, I can't decide if I 222 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: like the big people or the way. 223 00:09:59,520 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 224 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so I did start Severance, but I only did two. 225 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: Episodes, so I got to stick it out to number five. 226 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: Try again, Yeah, try again, because that's it. First few episodes, 227 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: I was like, not the same for me, but I 228 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: really battled through. 229 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, So are you the first? You filmed 230 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: in Costa Rica? 231 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: Yes, which is so funny because we were like calling 232 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: it an island and it's not, but we're just going 233 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: with it. 234 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: Wait it's not. What is it a jungle? 235 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: I think? 236 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: So it looked like an island. Google. 237 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it looked like an island, but we 238 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: wanted it. I think we originally really wanted the show 239 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: to be like Virgin Island because it's from the producers 240 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: of Love Island, but then they went with the name 241 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: are You My First? But yeah, it was. It was 242 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: just so fun to be there and be a part 243 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: of that show because you know, like usually people on 244 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: The Bachelor or The Bachelorette or these other dating shows, 245 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: like they're all very advanced in their dating life. They're like, 246 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: you know, on their third love stories or they've like 247 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: fully made out before. But these people are all on 248 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: their first for like some people are having their first kiss, 249 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: some people were having their first date. It's their first 250 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: time on TV, and so everything about it was just 251 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: so like pure and awkward and dramatic and sweet. It's 252 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: like everything mixed into one that you'd want in a 253 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: dating show. 254 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I found that we are we allowed to say it, 255 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: but are Michael and Rachel still together? 256 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm allowed to say, because I'm 257 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: still waiting to hear if we're going to do a reunion? 258 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,479 Speaker 3: Oh oh, I'm also I'm having Rachel on my podcast 259 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: I think in like three days. 260 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so you'll let me know. 261 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 3: I'll let you know. I've heard mixed things, and I've 262 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: also I've just heard mixed things in general about the cast, 263 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: like I know some of them are mad at each other, 264 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what is happening? I need all the tea, 265 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: So I'm going to get it, hopefully for my podcast, 266 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: and then I'll tell you. 267 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: Okay, perfect. 268 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Wait, So I did a dating show where I hosted 269 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: as well, and it tell me about the experience. How 270 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: long were you actually there in Costa Rica? 271 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: It was about six weeks? 272 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah? And were you always on call? 273 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 274 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: Because what would happen and they'd be like, hurry, get 275 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: down here, something's happening exactly. 276 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: Yes, always on call, especially like Colton, and I really 277 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that the cast knew that we 278 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 3: were also like there for them as tours and friends, 279 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: and we're not just like these hosts that like are 280 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 3: having a producer edit, you know, like we're not in 281 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: with the We're really genuinely there for them and helping 282 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: them guide them along this journey. So we were like 283 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: telling them you can call us in the middle of 284 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: the night. I'll show up with like no glamor on 285 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: in front of the camera. I don't care, Like, whatever 286 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: you need, We're here for you. But so there's that 287 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: only happened once where Rachel pulled me aside to have 288 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: a conversation, but we were also just always on call 289 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: because as you know, things can always change and happen, 290 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: and it's like we're filming seventeen hours of the day. 291 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 292 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: No, it's literally like in our world there's like turnaround 293 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: times where you have to like have time to go 294 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: home and go to sleep, and that does not exist 295 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: when you're filming a show. 296 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: Like this, a dating competition. It's like twenty four to seven. 297 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is. I mean we I we had 298 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: it pretty easy, I will say, because I mean we 299 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: we worked so hard, but I'm like, this is a 300 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 3: dream job because we got I think because I'd been 301 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: on the other end of reality TV where I've been 302 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: a contestant, and I know how stressful that is. Like 303 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: the show is not about me and Colton, It's about 304 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 3: the virgins. So we're like we get to come in 305 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: and just like say what we need to say and 306 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: be there for them. But then we get to go 307 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: like eat fish tacos and hang out on the beach 308 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: and wait for the next round of you know, glam 309 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: and wardrobe and being on camera. But it was like 310 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: really really fun. It was a really fun experience compared 311 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: to being a contestant. 312 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: I imagine. So how hot was it? 313 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: Oh? It was. It was dream storm season as well, 314 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: so it was like so human And then we had 315 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: to hold so many times for rain and storms, and 316 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: it was like like flooding where the crew would go 317 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: to eat and set up flood almost every day and 318 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: we'd have to like wait it out and it was 319 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: like one of the camera crew tents and cameras. Luckily 320 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: nobody got hurt, but they got struck by lightning and 321 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: so the cameras were all down for like, oh my god, Yeah, 322 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: it was crazy. 323 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: I just kept focusing in on your hair and makeup 324 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: because having been on that side of it hosting, like 325 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't keep my hair. It was like frizzing, but 326 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: your hair looked immaculate the whole time. 327 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you pissed at you know, every we 328 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: would like do our or what we needed to do, 329 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: and then I'd run into a room with ac and 330 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: I'd have all fans like blowing on me, and I 331 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: was dripping like down my chest, in my back like 332 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: I had butt sweat the whole time. I usually look 333 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 3: like a drown rat in heat, like I'm I don't 334 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: look cute. I always said, like if I went on 335 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: Bachelor in Paradise, people will be like ough, like I'm 336 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: not cute in the heat, and I was just I 337 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: would always have people with fans near me or doing 338 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: something to keep me looking. But my glam makeup artists 339 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: and hair artists did such a good job with helping 340 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: me stay dry. 341 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Now you looked great, Hey you. I hope there's a 342 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: season two. I'm very excited. 343 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: I really hope so too. I feel like it would 344 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: be I mean, we have Colton and I have a 345 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: virgin sliding into our dms being like take us for 346 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: season two, and it's just so funny because I think 347 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: they really saw that. You know, there's jokes to be made. 348 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: There's they're virgins and we're making virgin puns and we're 349 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: narrating a funny show. But it's also like really sweet 350 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: and people are on this self discovery journey where like 351 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: from them from the beginning to them at the end 352 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: are a complete different person And I love that part 353 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: of it. And so for season two, I'm like, I'm 354 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: so into that, as long as we have a lie 355 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: detector test at the beginning, because how do you vet 356 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: for if they are virgins or not? 357 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: We don't know, that's right, lie detector test. 358 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: You're right, I should be running Hulu. Absolutely, yeah, I 359 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: think that would be really funny. 360 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, did you think it was fair that 361 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: a bachelor was on? 362 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: I always I actually wonder if that helped or hurt 363 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: him because he came in, like I feel like everybody 364 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: almost looked up to him as a big brother, like 365 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, he's done this before, he's a bit older. 366 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: He's telling us like, well, this might happen, and this 367 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: might happen at this time, Like everyone kind of looked 368 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: up to him instead of like he didn't feel like, 369 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: you know, one of them. He felt a little more experienced, 370 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: and I think they almost looked up to him like 371 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: a big brother instead of a romantic connection. 372 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I didn't find anything sexy about him. 373 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: Is that bad to say? 374 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: No, that's I love on, I will drink of water, 375 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: beautiful eyes, kind of kind of funny, said all the 376 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: right things, and I just felt like, no, well, it's. 377 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: Sexuality because I feel like there's a lot of like 378 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: destigmatizing virgins in this where I'm like, Rachel is sexy, 379 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: like there are sex absolutely, we're no, And Mike really does, 380 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: I think because I had hosted his season of that 381 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 3: Bachelorette season as well, so I feel like I also 382 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: get like brother vibes from him because I was I 383 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: felt like I was looking out for him on Katie's season. 384 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe he just like needs to put out 385 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: a little more of a sex appeal vibe. But yeah, 386 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: I hear you. 387 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, or maybe he's just say sexual he doesn't know. 388 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: You never know. There's a I'm telling you this self 389 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: discovery journey from that show. I we need a reunion 390 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: for a lot of reasons. 391 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. 392 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: And I was fascinating when they were like, it's not 393 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: a cult, but is it a cult? And I was like, 394 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: that's so fucking cool. 395 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: It's like, well I again, like you come into a reality. 396 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: Oh and I feel like if you watch Bachelor Bachelorette, 397 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 3: the virginity talk is always like you save it for 398 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: a one on one date and it's this big announcement 399 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: and everybody's shocked and it changes like somebody's perspective and 400 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: they think, oh, this is a really big responsibility. Am 401 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: I going to be there first? Are they going to 402 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: like fall in love with me? Because they've never done 403 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: it before? Like this is a really big thing where 404 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: everybody came into are you my first? On the same 405 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: like same common ground, you know, right, Like they like 406 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 3: almost did feel like this immediate bond with one another 407 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: that they're like, yeah, we're we're all virgins. 408 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 2: Is that they like Gang's not like the Spock. 409 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: Super virgin, But yees. 410 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: I like that. 411 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cute. 412 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 2: Do you still believe in love? 413 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: Oh? Great question? My immediate response wanted to be no, 414 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: I understand that. I just I feel like so many 415 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: of people I mean, so many people I know have 416 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 3: been through heartbreak, but the people I surround myself with 417 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: I look around. I was just actually with some of 418 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 3: my best friends yesterday and they all have such healthy 419 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: versions of love that I get to look up to. 420 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: And I actually thought about it yesterday watching my best 421 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: friend Kat and her husband Worth, and they have two kids, 422 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: and they just they do it with so much ease, 423 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: but they're also very honest about their tough times. I 424 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: always think about being from a small town where I 425 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: grew up. I feel like I had the smallest circle. 426 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: I had really great parents. Even though my parents divorced, 427 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: I feel like they still had healthy love and they 428 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: gave healthy love. And as much as the divorce still 429 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 3: affected me, like I just feel lucky for how I 430 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: was raised. And then moving to you know, the La 431 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: to be on the Bachelor and then the Bachelorette, and 432 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 3: my bubble was a bit burst with not trusting people, 433 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: Like I went in with so much trust, and I 434 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 3: went in just thinking like producers would never screw me over. 435 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: They're not just trying to make TV. They really want 436 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: me to find love. Like I was so nice everything 437 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 3: that I feel like my bubble got burst, and then 438 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: I got engaged, and then that engagement didn't work out, 439 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: and then I feel like he kind of bamboozled me. 440 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: And then the second engagement, I was like, wait, that 441 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: is the complete different person than who I thought I met, 442 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: And then I got so jaded. But again, I've just 443 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 3: found such a good core group of friends and people 444 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 3: that I surround myself with. And all of my best 445 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: friends are married with kids, and I look up to 446 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: them so much because they do make me believe in love. 447 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: And I just feel like my parents found their healthiest 448 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: love in their remarriages when they were like in their fifties, 449 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: and I just feel like it's never it's never too late. 450 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: It's just I am a bit jaded because I have 451 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: trust issues. 452 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: I understand. How old were you when your parents got divorced. 453 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: I was eight almost eighteen, so okay a bit later. 454 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: And they always like we had I always tell people this, 455 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 3: We had feelings meetings growing up as families, so like 456 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: if my parents got in an argument, we would like 457 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: all sit down as a family and talk about our 458 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: feelings and why it happened and like what they could 459 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: have done better. Like we were really open about all 460 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: things in our family, which I think helped a lot. 461 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: Same I'm yeah, growing up, it was not like that 462 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: in my family, so I made a conscious effort to 463 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: do that with my kids. Yes, I think perhaps I've 464 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: told them too much or done too many feelings, but 465 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that's possible, I said, no one ever. 466 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's really important. I feel like 467 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: I would want to be the same way if I 468 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: ever have children, I would want to be the same 469 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: way because I think that really allows them to feel 470 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: safe as well to talk about feelings. And like, I've 471 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: always felt like such an open book with I mean strangers, 472 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: all all open up to them. And when I went 473 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: on TV, I got absolutely destroyed online because I didn't 474 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: understand that not everybody is so open about every detail 475 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: in their life. And I got really like slutshamed for 476 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 3: talking about sex. And I was like, wait, what, Because 477 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: I've just always been very open. 478 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: I think that's what I love about you, and I 479 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: feel like I'm like that too. 480 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: But do you feel like you're very polarizing? Yes? 481 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 3: I really, which is just so funny because I would 482 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 3: have never in my life thought that until I went 483 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: on TV. 484 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: And that's funny it's the word we grow up thinking 485 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: has a negative connotation, except when it's said about you. 486 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: You're like, well, I was like, I guess I could 487 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: see that. I'm also a Gemini, So like, yes, are. 488 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: You a Gemini? When's your birthday? 489 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: June nineteenth? 490 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: Okay, my daughter's June ninth. 491 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Gemini, And but a lot of cancer in my chart. 492 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: I'm a very sensitive, spicy lady. 493 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: That's a good balance. 494 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: It's a good balance. It's a lot, but it's good. 495 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 496 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: I mean I think you being authentic just paved the 497 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: way for everybody. 498 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you changed reality TV. 499 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: Wow. 500 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: I think so. 501 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: That's like one of the nicest things anyone could ever 502 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 3: say to me, just because I have realized from going 503 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: on reality television how much I crave authenticity in people, 504 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: and how again I had never surrounded myself with anyone 505 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: other than my little Canadian small town friends. So going 506 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: into the big city of LA and getting into that 507 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: world of TV and I was like, oh my gosh, 508 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 3: it like broke my spirit a little bit to see 509 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 3: how many fake people there were. 510 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you're the filly that can never be broken. 511 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: Be proud of that. I will think that's why you 512 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: still have a beam of light. 513 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 3: Oh thank god. I remember Reagan Fox talking about how 514 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: people took away her sparkle and I was like, I 515 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: hate that for her. I don't want anybody to use 516 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 3: their little sparkle that they have. 517 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: I know it happens, though, it of course does. 518 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: I mean I can see why. And the Internet is 519 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: even worse. It's the worst it's ever been with bullying. 520 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: And it's awful out there. 521 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: It's crazy. Where in Canada are you from exactly? 522 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: So, it's called La Duke. It's just outside of Edmonton 523 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: and Alberta. And then I moved to Vancouver. I had 524 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: a dance scholarship, so I got to go to Vancouver 525 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 3: and dance out there. I've met a few kitty Canadians. 526 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 3: I will say that. 527 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: It's a good bunch out there. 528 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you on dating apps? 529 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: I've never been on a dating app, and I feel 530 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 3: like I really did miss out on a little era 531 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: there because I one of my best friends is married 532 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: to her first Tinder swipe. Really yeah, and that's how 533 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: my mom and my stepdad met was on well they 534 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: will never admit this, but it was on seniors dot com. 535 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: Because if you were like over fifty, it's considered like 536 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: seniors dot com and that's where they met. 537 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: So id seniors dot com. Because I'm fifty two, I 538 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: don't I can't fight. 539 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: I have to go. 540 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, look amazing. I honestly, I just turned forty and 541 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: I am like not phased at all about that. I 542 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 3: feel like forties are so exciting, and then I feel 543 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 3: like everybody. I think it's because we grew up with 544 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 3: a generation where our parents at fifty they just didn't 545 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: seem they seemed older than that, you know, so now 546 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: we realize, oh my gosh, it's all about our energy, 547 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: our like spirit and how we feel rather than ages. 548 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I never still hurt a little bit. 549 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: I will always understand that. I've I totally talked myself 550 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: into loving forty before I was forty. So then I 551 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: got there and I was like, yes, I love it. 552 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: I've already convinced myself. But yeah, I've never I never 553 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: got to do the dating OUTSI I've just watched friends 554 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: do it and it always seems so fun. But they 555 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: scare me. They scare me a little bit. 556 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: They're terrifying. 557 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: And I was married for eighteen years, together for twenty 558 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: so I missed that as well. I would be with 559 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: my friends and be like, let me swipe for you. 560 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: This is so fun. I'm never going to get to 561 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: do this. 562 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: And now I'm single again at fifty two with five kids, 563 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: and I'm. 564 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: Like, oh, it's in your stock Holm. 565 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: What's that senior Stockholm. 566 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: I feel like there's some like genuine people on there. 567 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I want someone younger 568 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: this time. 569 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: Ah fair, Yeah, I feel like I want somebody older 570 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: this time. 571 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: How old would be the oldest you would date? 572 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, probably like late forties, I would say, okay, yeah, 573 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: Like I don't mind a ten year age gap. That 574 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: doesn't That doesn't scare me. 575 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: Here's the thing that worries me. This is this is 576 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: just a personal thing. But I want to see if 577 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: you relate to this. I feel like a woman that's 578 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: forty or a woman that's fifty and going into wanting 579 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: a new relationship is fine, but never been that's fine. 580 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: But like if a man is forty plus and has 581 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: never been married, I feel like it's a little bit 582 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: of a different thing. And I don't know why it's 583 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: like that. I don't but it's concerning and I don't 584 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: know why. 585 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: And I find like my dream is a what do 586 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 3: they call him? A divorce? Like a divorce a man 587 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 3: who's I always I always hear that people's second marriages 588 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: are like they're happiest too, And so I'm like, if 589 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: I like a man in his forties who's been divorced. 590 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: Hot, okay with kids? 591 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: Sure? I love kids. I hope to have my own. 592 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: But again, I froze my eggs when I was thirty three, 593 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 3: So I'm good girl. 594 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you that. 595 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really happy I did that, but I mean 596 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 3: it's also not a guarantee. But you know, I'm I'm 597 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: kind of dating right now. I always I feel weird 598 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: saying it because I'm like, I'm trying to keep my 599 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: dating life like private. Yeah, it's like, so I'm like, 600 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: good luck, Yeah, it's it's it's tricky. I'm trying really hard. 601 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: So I'm like sometimes I say things and I'm like 602 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 3: that doesn't add up, But then it doesn't feel authentic 603 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: because I'm like, am I being I douine right now? 604 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: Wait? Okay, wait how many did they? 605 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 3: So? 606 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: How many eggs did they? Were they able to freeze 607 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: when you were thirty. 608 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: Three, so I got I think I got fourteen or thirteen. 609 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: I think I got thirteen. And then they said anything 610 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: over ten for my age at thirty three was good, 611 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: So I was happy about that. But I don't know 612 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: how many are like good eggs, Like, I won't know 613 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: until they were fertilized and then you know, right because 614 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't IBF, it was just freezing my eggs. 615 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: Do you ever go visit them? No? 616 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: I just asked that that's actually funny to be babies. 617 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: My guys check it in. 618 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: I want to hear. It's my best friend, one of 619 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: my best friends that I made friends with her on 620 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: The Bachelor. Actually she's a fertility nurse. So she did 621 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: it for me, and every time I visited, I was like, 622 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: how am my eggs doing? I should go visit them? 623 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: Wait, she did it for you, So are they like 624 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: in her freezer? Yeah, just chilling in my in my freezer. 625 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: I mean, oh, really, what are you going to do 626 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: with it? I don't know, Oh yeah, because I heard 627 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: you can like make it into pills or do something. 628 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: I know my last one, well he's eight now, so 629 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't know eight years. It's probably we did we 630 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: took a little piece of it right afterwards. 631 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: And my husband cooked it and you ate it, uh huh. 632 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they say that's like so full of nutrients. Yeah, 633 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: that do breast milk right now is like being sold 634 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: on the black market for like. 635 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's crazy, Like that's the range is 636 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: the gold bodily fluids? 637 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? What's next? 638 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I don't know. 639 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: I want to. 640 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: You never know what's coming next. Like not being phases 641 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: me at this point in my life, like after COVID 642 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: and just so much like everything weird happening and like 643 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: people talking about aliens Like I'm like, nothing will phase 644 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: me ever again, Like there the tree could start talking 645 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: to me outside and I'd be like, sure, it's twenty 646 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: twenty five. 647 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: Do red roses phase you? No? 648 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: I love you? 649 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: Hate them? You love them? 650 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: I love them. I feel like I went through a 651 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: phase maybe a while back where I was like no, 652 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: but then I realized that that was like the most 653 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: pivotal point in my life for like living a true 654 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: like dream of mine, And so I now have a 655 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: rose tattooed on me because I'm like, no, I want 656 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: it to be positive. 657 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: Oh I love that where's your rose tattoo? 658 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: It's on on my arm right here. 659 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: M yeah, there's your beebe peebe Hi. 660 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: You know she looks so gray right now. He's like 661 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 3: just starting to go great. 662 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: He's he's probably like sick. 663 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: I rescued both of them, so I actually don't know 664 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 3: how old they are, but I feel like he's probably six. 665 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I can't wait till they can clone dogs. 666 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: Oh. 667 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: I I don't care about but dogs like, oh no, no, 668 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: we don't get enough time with them. 669 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: I'm the same. And I heard that they're coming out 670 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: with a pill in twenty twenty six that helps dogs 671 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 3: live longer. 672 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm there for that. 673 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, take my money. 674 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: Isn't that Yes, Like there's so many things medically we 675 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: won't do for ourselves, but our animals are hurt and 676 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: you take them somewhere and they're like it's going to 677 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: be twelve thousand dollars. 678 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, it's my blood, take everything. 679 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: Do it. Monts of dogs about it, and I'm like, Hayley, 680 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: they are so expensive, and she's like, you know, a 681 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: single mom working jobs and doing just her absolute best. 682 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: But I'm like, dogs are expensive, but they're also the 683 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: best thing that has ever happened to me. 684 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have followed my instinct at six to 685 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: be a VET because I'd be really wealthy now and 686 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: my life wouldn't be inconsistent. 687 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: But then you wouldn't be You're like such an icon 688 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: and such a legend, and I feel like you were 689 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: meant for that path. But also I could never handle 690 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: the heartbreak of being a vett. Think of how many 691 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 3: heartbreaks you have to experience. 692 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: I know, and I always ask them that too. 693 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, Like behind the scenes when 694 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: you're there, you're like, is this just it's the same 695 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: thing doctors often say, you know, in hospitals with children 696 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: and people. 697 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: It's just constant. 698 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: You have to like stop taking it home. Oh my gosh, 699 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: do you take on people's energy. 700 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 3: It's so much that it like frustrates me that I 701 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: actually find myself becoming so much more of an introvert 702 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 3: now than I ever have been, because I didn't realize 703 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: how much I do that until I started getting I'm like, 704 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: I'm pretty spiritual, and so I started really paying attention 705 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: to certain things, and I just I really do and 706 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: sometimes I won't even realize it, and I'll be in 707 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: the same room as somebody and like I'll like all 708 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: feel them, like feeling sick, Like I'll feel that. It's scary. 709 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: Almost Like my ex always called me a witch because 710 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: I was like, because of how much I feel witch. 711 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: Ex called you that. 712 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: One that would love if I kept bringing up his 713 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: name because he loves to be in the headlines. 714 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: So I had to copy that. 715 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: You'd be like, yes, I got talked about again, But 716 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: I actually I take it as a compliment. If you 717 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 3: think I have witchy vibes, I'm like, that's awesome. I 718 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: love I love being a witch. 719 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: That's so funny. Just from being on a zoom with you, 720 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: I was like, she's an EmPATH. 721 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: I can tell oh it, Yeah, it's I love it. 722 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 3: I love it because it's part of who I am. 723 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: But it's just it really is draining, and I I 724 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: sleep so hard when I get home from any Like 725 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: like yesterday I was at my friend's house and she 726 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: had some people over at her pool and I came 727 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: home and I like, I'm like, I need ten hours 728 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: of sleep. 729 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: Can you get ten hours to sleep? 730 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 731 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: What? Oh you're one of those Yes, I could sleep 732 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: you sleep anywhere. 733 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: I can sleep anywhere, and I can sleep like if 734 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 3: I was allowed because I have things to do, I 735 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: could sleep fourteen hours if I if I chose to. 736 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: That is wild. 737 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 3: I know. It's like I'm good at I do. Once 738 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: in a while, I'll wake up in the middle of 739 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: the night with some pretty intrusive thoughts, like very around 740 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 3: my cycle. And so I've just like learned my body 741 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: so well that i can sleep anywhere and for a 742 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: long amount of time unless I'm in a certain phase 743 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: of my cycle where i have the worst depression and 744 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: anxiety and I spiral and then that's when I can't sleep. 745 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: Wow, you were just telling me that you know what 746 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: was going through my head that you should start a 747 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: vibrator line you think so yeah, red rose one. 748 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: Ah, that's kind of genius. 749 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 2: That's a good one, right, that's. 750 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: A really good one because well, first of all, people 751 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: did know me as like the sexual bachelorette, right, I'm 752 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: so open about that kind of thing. And then you 753 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: put in a red rose and it's I mean, I'm 754 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: not mad. 755 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 756 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: No, if they ever replaced the rose, what would you 757 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: replace it with? 758 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 3: WHOA? Maybe like a glass of wine? 759 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 2: Because you do have a marketing brain? 760 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: There you go, maybe a glass of wine or a 761 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: red Rose vibrator for all the girls. 762 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like this red Rose vibrator. Wait, but 763 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: so you. 764 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: Have your wine line, which I really I want to taste. 765 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 3: Oh, I will send you. It's actually I'm really depressed 766 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: because my wine line has to close down now. I 767 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 3: want to pivot because the facility that makes my wine 768 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: they in the wine industry for over one hundred years, 769 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: and the facility shut down. So I didn't have a 770 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: choice but to. But I have so much of it 771 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: still where I'm like, please send me your address because 772 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 3: I will send you. It's so good. It's the only 773 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: wine I drink, and I love it so much, and 774 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm gonna have to start all over again 775 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: if I do continue to do it, because I'm like, 776 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 3: I worked so closely with this wine maker. 777 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 778 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: For ten years, I worked in a restaurant business, and 779 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 3: I worked under a somalier learning about wine, and then 780 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: I would train servers on their wine knowledge to like 781 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: pair it with food, and we'd go on these retreats 782 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: to like wine country, and I'd learn so much. So 783 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: I'm like very dialed in when it comes to wine. 784 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 3: And I'm so sad that this facility shut down because 785 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm like. 786 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: It's gone. There must be a way. 787 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 3: I know. 788 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure I can, Like I'll have to transfer the vines. 789 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 2: I know, somewhere near your eggs. She could grow both 790 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: with love. 791 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: You know what you really you've also got a market 792 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 3: like that. That's genius. Yeah, I should, I'll find something 793 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: to do. But I'm like, I'm pretty bummed out about it. 794 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. Okay, it's it's you always find a 795 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: way though. 796 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: Oh I do my brain, You're a warrior, thank you. 797 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 3: I do. I get excited to think about like, Okay, 798 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 3: there's nothing I can do about that. What can we do? 799 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 3: Like how can I pivot? What's next? What can we make? 800 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 3: And I actually like that part of it. It's that 801 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: ten years ago me would have spiraled, but ten years 802 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 3: of therapy Caitlin and learning how to cope has taught 803 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 3: me to be like, Okay, this is the universe's way 804 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: of showing me that it's just time for the next step. 805 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: Yep, you're being challenged, that's it. I believe that no 806 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: is the first word towards yes. Absolutely, And I live 807 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: by that. 808 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: Literally, I really believe that in that's such a powerful 809 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 3: way of thinking for anyone that's listening or watching, Like 810 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 3: that really is a powerful, powerful way of thinking, because 811 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: every note in my life led me to somehow go 812 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 3: on television and then like get to have I always 813 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 3: manifested when I was in my young twenties. I always 814 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: wanted my own radio show. I'm like sitting here with 815 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 3: a podcast on your Tory Spellings podcast, Like this is 816 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 3: so crazy to me. 817 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I want to be on your podcast. 818 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 3: Oh please, I would love. Do you live in la 819 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 3: I do? Yeah, Okay, I come out there quite often 820 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: for podcasts. So we'll plan that. Because it's just like 821 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: every every no has has led me in the right direction. 822 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 823 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 824 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: Could you date a man that doesn't drink wine? 825 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? I could, because it would probably help me drink 826 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 3: less wine. You'd have to accept my wine drinking. 827 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 2: What what? Uh wait? I want to drink wine with you. Sorry, 828 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 2: that's all I'm thinking right now. I just want to 829 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 2: drink wine with her. 830 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: We'll do both. 831 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I find the older I get though, 832 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: like I'm like a cheap drunk. 833 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: Oh oddly same. I used to be able to drink, 834 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: like I could drink a full bottle of wine and 835 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 3: be totally fine and function the next day. And I 836 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: still like and I have some sort of superpower there 837 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 3: where I actually really don't get hungover. But my problem is, 838 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: I like, have two glasses of wine now and I'm like, whoa, 839 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: which is so new for me? And I'm like, is 840 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 3: that it must be getting older? It's you just become 841 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 3: a super drunk, which is fine. 842 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: That sucks though, Yeah, I get the slur now, like 843 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: after one or two glasses, and I'm like, oh no, 844 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: And then I have to keep saying like I only 845 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: get two glasses with dinner, like because I feel so shamed. 846 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: I don't feel shamed. You should bring the. 847 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: Slur is not cute? No that you're right, And I'm 848 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: single now, so I got to work on the slur. 849 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 3: Well, my favorite thing to do at a restaurant is 850 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 3: have it a gin martini now and then I just 851 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: sip that the whole time. 852 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: Oh see, I'm not a sipper. 853 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 3: Well, I'm a gin martini makes me a sipper. 854 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh see, so I've tried that with a martini, but 855 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: vodka and I just drink it just as fast. 856 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: And then I'm even more wasted. So well, I dried, like, 857 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: do you like saki? 858 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 3: I love soake? 859 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: Okay, same, Yes, I love it, but I shoot it. 860 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: I don't sip it. 861 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 3: Well, I think you're supposed to. Oh really, isn't that 862 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 3: the etiquette? 863 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: I don't know my ex for years he'd be like, oh, 864 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: she likes leans the whole thing back, and I was like, 865 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: I always thought you were supposed to. 866 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 3: I actually I'm going to look into this for you 867 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 3: because I heard two things. One You're never supposed to 868 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 3: pour your own because it's bad luck the. 869 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 2: First one right first one yeah, And two. 870 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: That I don't think hot. You're supposed to sling back 871 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 3: but cold in the little glass. I think you are 872 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 3: you sling back hot? That just hurts my thorough thinking 873 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 3: about it. 874 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: I know, impressive, thank you. I give it a few 875 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: blows and then that came out wrong, but then I 876 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: take it all. 877 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding, but I love you. 878 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 3: I love you too. 879 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: We didn't after hours that podcast here. 880 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. Even with the Virgin show, 881 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, what's happening like the tea behind the scenes, 882 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is why we need a reunion because 883 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 3: there's so much tea happening by the scenes, and I'm like, 884 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: come on, this is the real show here. 885 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Tea. 886 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 3: Isn't that a weird word? Like that one came so popular. 887 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 3: I don't know where that started from. Don't you ever 888 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 3: wonder who started the sayings that become like so popular. 889 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, where did that start? 890 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: Because when I was young, you'd be like, who started 891 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: white out? They became so famous and so rich. And 892 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: now if I make that reference my kids, they're like, 893 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: what's white out? 894 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: What the heck is white out? 895 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: That's and I'm like, oh my god, I'm old, no archaic, 896 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, whoever started the sayings? Nothing, it's just their legacy. 897 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: They'd make any money off of it, Yeah. 898 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 3: But they don't. They don't even get the credit for 899 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 3: it because nobody knows who. At least the white oat 900 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: guy gets gets billions. 901 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe it's on their tombstone like something. 902 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: I started this saying, Yay, that's funny. Wait, you said 903 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: you've got some crazy dms from virgins? But do you 904 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: get men sliding into your dms all the time? 905 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 3: No? And I always who did? I just talk to 906 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 3: you about this. Uh well, this is probably like a 907 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 3: year ago now, but I remember talking to oh Kristin Cavalary, 908 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 3: who she gets dms from guys like crazy, and I. 909 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: Was like like good dms, Like. 910 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 3: Good, yeah, like she's like met some people that way. 911 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 2: What yeah? 912 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 3: And I am like, I have the only men that 913 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 3: slide into my dms are creep There's two creepy guys 914 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: that always want to talk about my feet. And I'm like, well, 915 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: that's not interesting. 916 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 2: And your response should be for how much? 917 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is exactly where my brain goes. I go, 918 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 3: yeah much. But that's I also have, like if you 919 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 3: look at my stats on Instagram, it's like ninety eight 920 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 3: percent female, which I love, but yeah, I think the 921 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 3: like two percent just want to see my feet apparently. 922 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 2: So you have good feet. What's hisice feet? 923 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: Six five six and a half? 924 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: Oh me too? 925 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 3: Oh we could hear shoes. 926 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have so many shoes because both my girls 927 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: outgrew my feet. 928 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 2: So I have like a collect I. 929 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: Call it my art collection of like heels like since 930 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: the nineties, Oh my god, and no one can wear 931 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: them except you. 932 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 3: Apparently you need to send me a photo of that 933 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: because I never was a shoe girl until recently, and 934 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,760 Speaker 3: now I love shoes. 935 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: I could fill a tub. In fact, once I did 936 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 2: and took a photo in it with all my heels. 937 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 3: That's cute. 938 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: I like that, thank you. 939 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 3: Now I used to like chop at Payless and like 940 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 3: didn't care about shoes at all, and I just always 941 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 3: wore Converse. And now I'm starting to like bags and 942 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 3: shoes I'm starting to like, which I never did before. 943 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: So we're the polar opposites because I used to always 944 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: be into heels and bags and I have such a 945 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: huge collection that I don't wear or use anymore, and 946 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: now I just wear Converse. 947 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh funny, isn't that weird? 948 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Converser, I love They're the best. 949 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: That's my jam. 950 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm into that. 951 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, even with dresses, like I wear Converse. 952 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 3: I always said i'd if I get married, I'm gonna 953 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 3: wear Converse under my wedding dress. Oh I love that. 954 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: Well. 955 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 3: Color probably white or like go edgy and do like 956 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 3: a black leather. 957 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to. You don't have to wear white. 958 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna see them anyways. 959 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's after labor day. You're forty, you can do 960 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: whatever you want now, whatever I want. 961 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 3: And also I feel like I never thought I would 962 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 3: be the girl who would think about wedding dresses, and 963 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 3: now I'm like, if I get married, I want two 964 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 3: different dresses, and I want like a short party skirt 965 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 3: for after, and I want a long, beautiful one of 966 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 3: the like I've never thought I would think about that. 967 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: I never cared before, and coming from engaged twice, that 968 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. 969 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: No, after everything you've been through, you deserve to have 970 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you want at your wedding. 971 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 3: I also picture a courthouse, so I'm really this is 972 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 3: where I'm a Gemini. 973 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,720 Speaker 2: I'm very courthouse hmm. 974 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 3: But you can have both exactly. That's that's what I 975 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 3: would do. I'll do both. 976 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: You can have everything. Okay, So would you ever be 977 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: on another dating show? Sorry, I know we have to 978 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: wrap up soon. 979 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 3: Well, but I as a host, I would never never 980 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 3: want a dating show again. As a contestant, I've I 981 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 3: had so much fun doing it. I had so much 982 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 3: fun on the Bachelor. The Bachelorette was hell and then 983 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 3: I'm good now. 984 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: But what if? 985 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: Okay, it was a divorces all divorces, so it's your 986 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: type I'm just putting it out there because I never 987 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: I didn't think i'd ever be on a dating show, 988 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't think. 989 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: I'd ever be divorced, right. 990 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: I was like, if I could find a nice I 991 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: want a dad too. 992 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel that I know I still wouldn't 993 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 3: do it, though, I'm yeah, because I'm like, I think, 994 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 3: I think what really killed me with the dating and 995 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: being the bachelorette was how I constantly was hurting people's 996 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 3: feelings and I was just every day disappointing somebody and 997 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 3: it was the hardest thing ever. Because I feel like 998 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 3: I'm even more I'm like softer in my older years now, 999 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 3: where I'm like, I can't imagine just constantly disappointing people 1000 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: and hurting their feelings every week. 1001 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: That's really kind to you. 1002 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: What if it was a hidden camera show and you 1003 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: were just punking people like your axents that I would 1004 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: get down with. 1005 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 3: That I would get down with absolutely. Yes, put me 1006 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 3: on a punk show any day of the week. 1007 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with your Instagram by the way, 1008 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: are Yeah, it's very uh stimulating okaing good, that's not polarizing, 1009 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: it's stimulating. 1010 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 3: Uh. 1011 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: How long does it take you to do handle your 1012 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: social media day? 1013 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 3: I don't think twice about it. 1014 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: This is not fair. I know, it's a lot of gift. 1015 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 3: A lot of my friends are like, oh, you just 1016 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: do it and don't look back. I'm like, no, all, 1017 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,959 Speaker 3: I can put something together so fast, or I don't 1018 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: think twice, and then I just I like writing, so 1019 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 3: sometimes i'll like write out a good and then other 1020 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: times I just like to like say something inappropriate or 1021 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 3: make a joke. But I don't know. It must be 1022 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 3: maybe a little bit of a skill because I really 1023 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: just do it and don't think twice and then carry 1024 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: on with my day. 1025 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 2: Let me tell you have mad skills. 1026 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: I do all my social myself, and it takes me 1027 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: to put up one post like a whole day, like hours, 1028 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: Like oh you. 1029 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 3: Got to hire somebody for that, right. Yeah. I enjoy 1030 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 3: doing it because I can just power through so quickly. 1031 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: It's like I don't overthink it at all. 1032 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: And you have no bad angle, so it's and you're 1033 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: not like I love how you're so unafraid. 1034 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the only thing I get terrified because 1035 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 3: I grew up doing musical theater and I love singing. 1036 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 3: And I've put out a couple songs, and that's when 1037 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 3: I get really scared. I get crippled with fear with 1038 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 3: putting out music or people hearing my voice. 1039 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 2: You haven't done mass singer, right, No? Would you? 1040 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? I would totally do that show. I feel like that, 1041 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 3: have you done it? 1042 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 2: I have, I've heard. 1043 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 3: It's a really nice experience. 1044 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: I was on the first season of the US and 1045 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: then I've done different ones around the world. But the 1046 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: first season, I just had no idea because we didn't 1047 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: know what the show was. You didn't know what was happening, 1048 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: so it wasn't It was really scary, But for me 1049 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: it was really freeing because people always judge me because 1050 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: of my name, you know, they see me and like 1051 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: instantly like, she can't do this, she can't do that. 1052 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: So it was so great to have a mask in 1053 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: front of me and it's like they don't know it's 1054 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,760 Speaker 1: Tory spelling. 1055 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 2: And I actually got compliments and I'm like. 1056 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this feels nice to get compliments that 1057 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: when I had to take off the mask, I'm like, 1058 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to. 1059 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be the same way, Like, I even 1060 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 3: feel more confident singing with sunglasses on, so I feel 1061 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 3: like it really really helped me. Yeah. 1062 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,919 Speaker 2: What's your go to karaoke song? 1063 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, well, my go to is probably Shoop by 1064 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 3: Salt and Peppa Nice. I know every word of that 1065 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 3: song and I feel like I whip it out of 1066 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 3: karaoke all the time. But I also love anything Alanis 1067 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 3: Moore sat Nice. Yeah. What about you? 1068 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't. I don't do karaoke. What I know, 1069 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 2: I love karaoke, I mean I will do it. I 1070 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: like a good piano bar. 1071 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 3: I love a piano bar. Oh my gosh, Dueling pianos 1072 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 3: and a piano bar are my favorite things. 1073 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: I like that, Like that's more my jam than like 1074 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: because I don't know, karaoke can be a little bit 1075 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: too cool for school and then I get nervous. 1076 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 2: But if you can just like I feel. 1077 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 3: Free, like with your friends, Like you just rent out 1078 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 3: like a private room of karaoke with your friends. That's fun. 1079 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would do that. Yeah. Do you like pickles? 1080 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 3: Yes? 1081 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 2: Why do you say it like that? I don't know. 1082 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 1: They're one of my favorite things, and we seem to 1083 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 1: have a lot in common, so I just thought i'd 1084 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: ask you if you like pickles. 1085 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 3: No, that. 1086 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 2: Really threw me. 1087 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 3: I was like, I love this question though, because I 1088 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 3: was just in Canada with family and my girlfriend pickles. 1089 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 3: That's what she loves, pickling things, and she gave me 1090 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 3: a big spicy My mouth is watering. It's like spicy garlic. 1091 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: Pickles that you know, not your lockjaw. 1092 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 3: Uh huh. It's happening, and I yes, and I'm I 1093 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: was trying to eat them all before I left because 1094 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 3: I didn't know how to pack them. 1095 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 2: Yes, I like pickling as well. 1096 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: Do maybe that I should start that. I feel like 1097 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 3: that's a habit. I could get down with the whole 1098 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 3: pickling pickles. 1099 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 1: I sorry the garden at this house, but I always 1100 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: did have a garden. 1101 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 3: I love a garden. That's my dream. In my next house, 1102 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 3: I will have a garden. I want to become Anderson. 1103 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm like great at growing things. 1104 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm great at growing humans and animals, but not I 1105 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: don't have a green thumb. 1106 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 3: I won't either. 1107 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,399 Speaker 2: That's a fan it is. 1108 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, all my plants in my house are fake because 1109 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 3: I also can't keep anything alive except a snake plant. 1110 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 3: I feel like a snake plant I can keep alive 1111 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 3: and I think that's it. 1112 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know what a snake plant is. 1113 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I'll send you a photo. 1114 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: I need that, okay, because I've even killed cactuses. 1115 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have two, okay. 1116 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 2: Succulents, I kill them all. 1117 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I I have to set a reminder in 1118 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 3: my calendar to like, if I'm going to do anything, 1119 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 3: it needs to be in my calendar because I am 1120 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 3: so unorganized it's embarrassing and everything that if I'm ever 1121 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 3: going to remember anything, I just need to write it 1122 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 3: down or put it in my calendar or I will forget. 1123 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 2: I just came up with another business for you. I'll 1124 00:51:59,320 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 2: leave you with this. 1125 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: When you grow your garden, I think you should have 1126 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 1: your own variety of rose you should grow in your garden, 1127 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: like a deep wine colored rose. 1128 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 3: That's a good idea. I don't know, just for like 1129 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,959 Speaker 3: aesthetically pleasing Instagram posts or to sell. 1130 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: No fuck that like for business. I mean it all 1131 00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 2: starts organically, right. 1132 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 3: I have a rose from my Bachelorette season. Hold on, 1133 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 3: I'll show you saved it. The one of my guys 1134 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 3: brought it for me when he came on my podcast, 1135 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 3: and look at it. It's just completely dried out and 1136 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 3: still the magnet is over there from because when you 1137 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 3: pin the roses on guys, it's a magnet. 1138 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 2: Oooh yeah, a little known fact. 1139 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. People always are like, how do you get them 1140 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 3: to stick like that? I'm like, it's a magnet. 1141 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that needs to be a forever rose. 1142 00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it iss not moldy. 1143 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well, I want to meet you in 1144 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 2: person and hang out with you. 1145 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 3: Because absolutely is when I come to LA next, which 1146 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 3: I'm not sure when I'm probably beginning of October, so 1147 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 3: I will be here. 1148 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 2: Do you like horror films? 1149 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 3: I do? 1150 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you said October, and it's like the spooky 1151 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: season and that's when I come alive. 1152 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 3: So spooky season is my favorite season as well. 1153 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh. 1154 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so we'll have spooky night wine and podcast. 1155 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 2: Perfect. This sounds like a great night in that everyone 1156 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: will want to know about it. 1157 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 3: So wonderful. 1158 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, so are you fun? 1159 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 3: Thank you so much? 1160 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, I'll see you soon then. 1161 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 3: Okay, yep, I'll let you know. I'm gonna DM you 1162 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 3: right now. 1163 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, you're sliding into my DMS, slid into your 1164 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: m Okay, put something dirty too, Okay, well, night, leve five,