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Speaker 1: So we have a big potential breakthrough in clean energy technology.

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Speaker 1: This was reported out by the Washington Post based on

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Speaker 1: a new paper and some development here. Take a look

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Speaker 1: at this. They say, scientists find way to make energy

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Speaker 1: from air using nearly any material. Let me read from

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Speaker 1: this report because otherwise I will butcher the breakthrough.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 1: They say nearly any materia can be used to turn

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Speaker 1: the energy in air humidity into electricity. Scientists found in

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Speaker 1: a discovery that could lead to continuously producing clean energy

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Speaker 1: with little pollution. That research, which is published in a

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Speaker 1: paper in Advanced Materials, builds on twenty twenty work that

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Speaker 1: first showed energy could be pulled from the moisture in

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Speaker 1: the air using material harvested from bacteria. The new study

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Speaker 1: shows nearly any material, such as wood or silicon, can

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Speaker 1: be used as long as it can be smashed into

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Speaker 5: There are many.

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Speaker 1: Questions about how to scale the product. That is the

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Speaker 1: primary sort of impediment here. The device itself is really

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Speaker 1: super tiny, size of a fingernail, thinner than a single hair.

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Speaker 1: It's dotted with tiny holes known as nanopores. They have

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Speaker 1: one thousandth of the width of a strand of human hair.

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Speaker 1: And what they envision is that you could have roughly

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Speaker 1: a billion of these things, which are called air gens,

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Speaker 1: that could produce enough energy to at least partially power

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Speaker 1: a home in they say ideal conditions they imagine because

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Speaker 1: you can use any material because it's so small, it

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Speaker 1: could be in the paint in the walls. This is

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Speaker 1: all I understand it to be a ways off, but

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Speaker 1: still exciting. When you have this kind of possibility, when

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Speaker 1: you have this type of research that is being undertaken with,

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Speaker 1: it could completely transform the way that we do energy production.

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Speaker 2: I'm both excited and also skeptical if that makes it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's not just because it's one of those

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Speaker 2: words like that definitely sounds so.

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Speaker 3: I remember at one point.

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Speaker 2: I lived in Texas near Houston. I met a guy

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Speaker 2: who had a system which pulled moisture out of the

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Speaker 2: And I remember like, Oh, that's cool, And then it

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Speaker 2: turned out it was like thousands of dollars and it

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Speaker 2: didn't generate that much water. Yeah, and also it used

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Speaker 2: is really that much better now?

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Speaker 3: So you need economies of.

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Speaker 2: Scale and all that that said, I mean the idea

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Speaker 2: So the only thing I just don't really understand is

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Speaker 3: Humidity into electricity.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how every material is able to basically

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Speaker 1: Guess it's more of the nature of the holes in

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Speaker 1: that runs continuously. We are opening up a wide door

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Speaker 1: for harvesting clean electricity from thin air, said one of

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Speaker 1: the authors and UMass engineering graduate students. So, I guess

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Speaker 1: the reason you can use anything is because it's less

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Speaker 1: my deck here, guys. But that's what I'm understanding for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really get it. It sounds cool. It

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Speaker 2: and you can get limitless power, which would be awesome

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Speaker 5: I imagine the paint in the walls. It would be

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be on the grid. I don't

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Speaker 5: Sold you have to be on the grid for that,

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: So it sounds like it could be the power.

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Speaker 2: It could sit in your house and it could generate

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Speaker 2: be a lot easier than the current like way to

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Speaker 3: It just costs a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: And it's prohibitive for people who don't necessarily want to.

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Speaker 3: So this seems like it would.

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Speaker 2: Make it more available and easier, and also open up

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Speaker 2: because you would have access. If you combine this with

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Speaker 2: like a starlink, I mean you really just you opened

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 5: I like that idea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine not having to deal with oil politics and

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Speaker 1: all of the like disaster and war that that causes.

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Speaker 1: Imagine you know, being able to reverse the impact of

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Speaker 1: climate change. Imagine having energy that is really really cheap,

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Speaker 1: practically free. I mean, that would be an incredible world

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Speaker 1: to live in so we'll keep our fingers crossed and

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on these little developments.

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Speaker 5: Have some new.

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Speaker 1: Reporting for you all about exactly how Center Diane Feinstein's

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Speaker 1: office is operating here and the depth of her confusion

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Speaker 1: at just the basic functions of the Senate. This continues

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Speaker 1: to be just sad and enraging story, as this is

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Speaker 1: say Feinstein expressed confusion over Kamala Harris presiding over the Senate.

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Speaker 5: Here's a quote from the article.

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Speaker 1: They say, at times, Einstein has expressed confusion about the

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Speaker 1: gone to great lengths to keep Miss Einstein shielded from

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Speaker 3: Well established, we all know it.

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Speaker 2: What's happening behind the scenes is that her aids are

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Speaker 2: using the Capitol Police to shield her, both from reporters.

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Speaker 2: For example, I recently saw and heard about an incident

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Speaker 3: To give her some space.

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Speaker 2: They were demanding reporters be like twenty five feet away

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Speaker 2: into a wheelchair. All right, five feet fine, but really

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Speaker 2: what are they doing? They don't want her to answer

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Speaker 2: they tell her how to vote. This has been reported

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again. She apparently didn't know

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Speaker 2: who Tim Scott was, you know, confused him for Raphael Warnock,

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Speaker 2: It's like there's so many incidents like this that it's

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Speaker 2: almost reporting about her sinility is now like not even

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Speaker 2: the point. It's just all about how powerful people are

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Speaker 2: coming together to protect her from any scrutiny and.

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Speaker 5: To use her for their own ends.

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Speaker 1: It's very clear here now the reason why Pelosi has

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Speaker 1: Adam Schiff into the Senate scene, and it goes to

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Speaker 1: these like behind the scenes Senate political machinations. Governor Gavin

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Speaker 1: Newsom of California said if he was going to appoint

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi doesn't want it to be Barbara Lee. She

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Speaker 1: wants Adam Shift to get that seat. And if Barbara

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Speaker 5: For what Gavin Newsom has.

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Speaker 1: Said, then if you're an incumbent, it's very hard to

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Speaker 1: So those are the political machinations that are going on

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Speaker 1: I think the other part of this OSACER that's interesting is,

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Speaker 1: you know, our friend here, Ken Klippenstein, really kicked a

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Speaker 1: the public the reality of Senator Feinstein's condition, and there

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's any accident.

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Speaker 1: That he sort of forced the issue into the public

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Speaker 1: have been done years ago about the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: she's barely there, She's even just before a vote, They're

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Speaker 1: At the times she's reading from scripts that they give

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Speaker 1: her about how she even records her votes. The office

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Speaker 5: These are not people who are elected, right, She.

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Speaker 1: Is the elected representative, And so you know, I think

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Speaker 1: some scrutiny on how this is all going down, not

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Speaker 1: only for her but other instances which we will undoubtedly

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Speaker 2: No, it's incredibly stupid, the entire the just the way

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Speaker 2: that they protected them for so long. You're right in

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Speaker 2: that Ken actually did kind of force the hands on

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Speaker 2: none of it is revealed.

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Speaker 3: To the public. And it's just such a disgrace.

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Speaker 2: The most populous state in the whole country, and they

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Speaker 1: So the Ladies of the View took to debating the

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Speaker 5: Take a listen to this exchange and how it went.

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Speaker 6: The significance of the passage of time right, the significance

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Speaker 5: We've got to take this.

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Speaker 4: Stuff seriously as seriously as you are.

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Speaker 5: Because you have been forced to have to take it seriously.

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Speaker 7: It's just well, if she's reading a prompter, they need

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Speaker 8: The administration and the.

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Speaker 8: I would I would add that as a lawyer, you're

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Speaker 7: So I think what you do the definition in the

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Speaker 5: This is how she's trained to speak as a lawyer.

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Speaker 5: Only what do you think of that one?

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Speaker 4: What she's saying.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that was for an audience of one Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1: The thing that bothers me actually the most about these clips.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Can I use the phrase circle jerk?

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Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, because.

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Speaker 9: That's put the media and political classes at this point.

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Speaker 9: It's just them like building each other up because they're

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Speaker 9: really afraid to do the alternative. Actually, this is this

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Speaker 9: is going to sound like a hard pivot. But the

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Speaker 9: New York Times criticism of the Little Mermaid movie that

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Speaker 9: went viral because it complained that there wasn't enough kink

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Speaker 9: in it, even if the definition of the word was nice.

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Speaker 5: I didn't see any of this, so.

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Speaker 4: You are not on right.

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Speaker 9: But what I would say is the actual complaint of

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Speaker 9: the culture critic at the New York Times is that

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Speaker 9: the Little Mermaid Movie was so hampered by trying to

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Speaker 9: check off every diversity box that the creativity.

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Speaker 4: Was lost and that the fun of it was lost.

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Speaker 9: And I think it's very clear that you lose You

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Speaker 9: lose capability when you are use capability creator to all

462
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Speaker 9: of these things, when you care more about like checking

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Speaker 9: off these boxes than you do about There are plenty

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Speaker 9: of women, There are plenty of men, black, white, that

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Speaker 9: could do Kamala Harris's job so much better than Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 9: She just was for the purpose of Joe Biden having

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Speaker 9: what his team thought would be this electoral advantage, which

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Speaker 9: in a way is kind of racist because they're using

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Speaker 9: her to be to their electoral advantage.

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Speaker 4: It's insulting. And so they're the same thing with the

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Speaker 4: women of the view.

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Speaker 9: They can't give her honest feedback and honest criticism, which

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Speaker 9: is how she gets insulated from any criticism that could

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Speaker 9: possibly make her better at her job. We're all worse

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Speaker 9: off for having this elite circle jerk in our media

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Speaker 9: and our political class.

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Speaker 1: The jokes on them, though, because now they have set

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Speaker 1: this person up. I mean, the amount of leaks that

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Speaker 1: have come out of her office. It's very clear that

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Speaker 1: the Biden team that I think her own team, recognizes

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Speaker 1: that she has become this political libil, but they can't

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Speaker 1: get out of it because you can't put aside the

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Speaker 1: nation's first black president, black female president and so. And

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Speaker 1: this is also part of why even though Biden is

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Speaker 1: old and ailing and you know, people are very very

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Speaker 1: nervous about his ability to win reelection, Like it was

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Speaker 1: never a real question mark over whether they would lean

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Speaker 1: into making him the nominee again, because they have this

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris problem sitting right there, and they know, like

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Speaker 1: as difficult as Biden's chances might be, hers will be

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Speaker 1: so much worse. And even Okay, so let's say that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is able to get reelected, they're still going

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Speaker 1: to have this issue hanging over them because she has

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Speaker 1: been you know, propped up as the chosen one. I

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Speaker 1: just will point out to your point about it being

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Speaker 1: kind of racist to just assume, like, oh, she's a

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Speaker 1: black woman, so black women will vote for her. In

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Speaker 1: the primary, that wasn't true. I mean, she didn't do

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Speaker 1: particularly well with voters of color. Actually, the two candidates

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Speaker 1: that did best with voters of color were you know,

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Speaker 1: the old white guys, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, the very simplistic narratives about her are obviously

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Speaker 1: very disingenuous. Like I said, the thing I enjoy or loathe,

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Speaker 1: I guess the most is they're so nervous about pushing

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Speaker 1: back on Sonny, pushing back on any of the like

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Speaker 1: whatever is the prevailing wisdom on the view. It's amusing

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Speaker 1: to watch, but I did enjoy this new entry of Actually,

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Speaker 1: the problem is that she was trained to talk like

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Speaker 1: a lawyer.

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Speaker 5: Like there aren't a million other lawyers.

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Speaker 1: In DC and you know, in political offices around the

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Speaker 1: country that managed to not speak in this bizarre way.

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Speaker 4: It's really crystal forty chess.

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Speaker 9: It's actually that Kamala Harris is too smart for the

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Speaker 9: average member of the public.

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Speaker 4: So smart, in fact, that she sounds like an idiot,

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Speaker 4: but just not.

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Speaker 1: We just can't compete on that level. No, we can't

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Speaker 1: really wrap our head around it.

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Speaker 9: But by the way, that's why these cable channels and

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Speaker 9: the news offerings at places like ABC Sunday Shows are

522
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Speaker 9: starting to plummet, because people would rather watch an honest

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Speaker 9: conversation like this one than one where somebody is bending

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Speaker 9: over backwards and engaging in these mental parties and gymnastics

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Speaker 9: to defend somebody that is objectively bad at her job. Yes,

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Speaker 9: Joe Rogan had some really interesting comments about a very

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Speaker 9: online backlash to an old Ford ad, and it's it's

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Speaker 9: interesting for a number of reasons. But let's roll the

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Speaker 9: clips so you can decide for yourself right off the bat.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 6: So someone said something, Oh, it's the gay Raptor because

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Speaker 6: it's the smaller raptor.

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Speaker 3: Fucking moron.

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Speaker 4: True, here's right, And so they actually painted it in

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Speaker 4: gay colors.

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Speaker 3: It's a big gay gay raptor.

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Speaker 4: No, one's not gonna buy raptors. Shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 10: Yeah ship that ship?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had one of those.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So that was from Friday's edition of Rogan's podcast.

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Speaker 4: He said that.

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Speaker 9: Ford did a quote gay commercial for their Raptor truck line,

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Speaker 9: and while the quote very gay Wraptor debuted in twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty one, the ad was resurfaced I'm reading from media

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Speaker 9: here following the fallout from Budler partnership with Dylan mulvaney.

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Speaker 9: And so because all of these sort of corporate pride

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Speaker 9: ads were making their way around the internet, the Ford

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Speaker 9: one made its way around the internet because Ford has

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Speaker 9: a brand not entirely dissimilar from bud Light, which is

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Speaker 9: sort of mass palatability, also really popular in Middle America.

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Speaker 9: I just bought a Ford myself. I used Ford, but

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Speaker 9: that is to.

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Speaker 4: Say they last. But this wasn't that.

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Speaker 9: There isn't that a tagline Ford Built to Last, Built,

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Speaker 9: Ford Tough, that's the one.

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Speaker 4: Sure whatever, anyway, we're not sponsored by Ford.

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Speaker 1: I'm also a for consumer though, because they're you know,

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Speaker 1: Union American made. So I have I have an F

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Speaker 1: one fifty, which is a relative of the Raptor. It's

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Speaker 1: like a less fancy version of the Raptor. I think

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Speaker 1: is my understanding of this, Yeah, I don't really can

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Speaker 1: you explain? I don't really understand what happened here? How

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Speaker 1: did this commerce how did this very gay raptor thing

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Speaker 1: come about? It looks cool, it's like rainbow painted basically.

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Speaker 9: So that's the adding question is it's one of those

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Speaker 9: like really typical kind of corporate pride commercials. But it's

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Speaker 9: interesting to people because you have this Ford Raptor and

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Speaker 9: I drive an F one fifty growing up, so I

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Speaker 9: love those trucks. They are fantastic. The raptors are really cool.

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Speaker 9: But it is in Pride colors and it's a couple

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Speaker 9: of years old. Because but what people thought, because that's

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Speaker 9: one of the things on Twitter is you can just

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Speaker 9: take something without any context and start circulating it, and

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Speaker 9: people are going to think the Ford ad is new,

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Speaker 9: that they doubled down after the bud Light and Target stuff,

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Speaker 9: and that's like important context. So why this started snowballing

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Speaker 9: Because if you just see it and you don't realize

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Speaker 9: it's a couple of years old, it looks like Ford

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Speaker 9: is ignoring all of the sort of cultural warnings and boycotts.

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Speaker 9: So people say they just want their products to be apolitical.

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Speaker 9: They don't want to feel like, actually, we talked about

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Speaker 9: this earlier in today's show, that there's this very visceral

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Speaker 9: feeling of my team or your team. You're with us,

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Speaker 9: or you're against us. You're with average Americans, or you're

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Speaker 9: with the elites. It looked like Ford, out of context,

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Speaker 9: was doubling down on the Pride campaign in light.

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Speaker 4: Of what happened to bud Light and Target. But it

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Speaker 4: wasn't a new ad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing for me as a leftist,

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Speaker 1: none of these companies are my ally in anything, even

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Speaker 1: if they, you know, find it like financially beneficial to

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Speaker 1: posture as being like gay allies or whatever. Everyone knows

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Speaker 1: before the majority opinion shifted on that issue, they weren't

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Speaker 1: going to say a freaking word about gay marriage or

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Speaker 1: gay people or whatever unless they had some sort of

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Speaker 1: a marketing angle.

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Speaker 5: So let me just put that out there.

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Speaker 1: I am under no illusion that these companies are my

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Speaker 1: friend or my ally on literally any issue. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you made the comment about conservatives were under the impression

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Speaker 1: that this was like bud Light, that this was, you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of mainstream palatability company. I just loosed up the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Support for gay marriage is seventy one percent in America.

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Speaker 4: See that.

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Speaker 1: So it's it like leaning into Pride, which is why

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Speaker 1: all these companies have done it, like doing their pride campaigns,

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Speaker 1: painting the truck the rainbow colors and having a drive

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Speaker 1: in a privarate or whatever. It's because it has been

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Speaker 1: a mainstream, acceptable, seventy plus percent support issue. So this

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Speaker 1: is where again I come to like, you know, putting obviously,

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Speaker 1: like I wildly disagree with the reaction backlash to any

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Speaker 1: of this, Not that I even care that much because

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Speaker 1: it's just virtue signaling anyway, but the intense backlashes the

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Speaker 1: progress that's been made in the LGBTQ movement. I also

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Speaker 1: think that it's very dangerous for conservatives politically because part

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Speaker 1: of why they did so they so underperformed, I should say,

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, was because they were effectively painted

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Speaker 1: as extremists. Now that was predominantly around abortion and around

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Speaker 1: stop the steal. But you're getting yourself out on like

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Speaker 1: another twenty five percent issue here when it comes to

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Speaker 1: aggressive pushback against even the like most basic tenants of

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Speaker 1: you know, support for gay rights.

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Speaker 9: And that's what's so interesting about the pride question in

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Speaker 9: general that we have seen for instance, like I think

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Speaker 9: about like average parents who we talked about this again

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Speaker 9: earlier in today's show, like voter for Glenn Youngkin, I

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Speaker 9: bet a majority of them, even though they voted for

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Speaker 9: a Republican governor, are supportive of gay marriage. Jungkin is

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Speaker 9: probably supportive of gay marriage. I actually don't know where he.

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Speaker 4: Stands on that. I would guess that he's supportive of it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but people have come to see Pride and there

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Speaker 9: have been a lot of I think trenchon analyzes by

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Speaker 9: leftists of the last couple of years about how specifically

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Speaker 9: the t part of the lgbt Q question and specifically

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Speaker 9: the way that it's become associated with kids Republicans, and

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Speaker 9: we've talked about this before, that has been a really

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Speaker 9: effective line of attack and it's very interesting to see

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Speaker 9: how some of those analyzes are being proven I think

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Speaker 9: correct by the boycott's of bud Light and Target specifically

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Speaker 9: because Pride is coming to be associated with that, and

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Speaker 9: people see corporations going all in on Pride as them

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Speaker 9: necessarily going all in on lgbt Dilla Mulvaaney, et cetera,

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Speaker 9: et cetera. And that is fascinating to me because, like

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Speaker 9: you said, that number is it's a seventy percent plus

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Speaker 9: issue that's.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rogan has this sort of baked in Kyle

647
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Speaker 1: always says that I'm stealing from him like normy instinct.

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Speaker 1: So when his guest was the one who brought up, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: JC Ford with this pride stuff, He's like, this is bullshit,

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Speaker 1: Like nobody's gonna not buy their truck because of this,

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Speaker 1: and because he has, I mean, on this issue, he

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Speaker 1: has this sort of like Normy instinct and so similar

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Speaker 1: to abortion, you know, I do think that when Republicans

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Speaker 1: are talking about these tricky, genuinely tricky issues around kids

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Speaker 1: and age of transition and what that process looks like

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Speaker 1: and you know how you navigate this and what the

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Speaker 1: rules and guidelines are, et cetera, then they're on stronger

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Speaker 1: political footing. But even there, you know, this election cycle

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the one where that issue was

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Speaker 1: really determinative, and there were a lot of Republican candidates,

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Speaker 1: not just Rond de Santis, who I think won in

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Speaker 1: Florida for a host of you know that, but a

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Speaker 1: host of reasons, but there were a lot of Republicans

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Speaker 1: across the country who really leaned into those issues and

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Speaker 1: it didn't amount to didn't amount to much because I

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Speaker 1: don't think it felt really super relevant to people's lives.

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Speaker 5: You know, they didn't.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't some in their school, This wasn't really a

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Speaker 1: live issue, This wasn't something they were grappling with in

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Speaker 1: a big.

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Speaker 5: Way in their day to day life.

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Speaker 1: And I think because now there has been so much

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Speaker 1: creep beyond just the like laser focus on kids and schools,

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Speaker 1: to now freak out over two year old Ford Pride

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Speaker 1: commercial that is no you know, like is no threat

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Speaker 1: to anyone. I think they have already crossed the rubicon

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Speaker 1: to being dramatically against where public opinion is on this issue.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even on issues of like adults transitioning, the

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Speaker 1: public is overwhelmingly in support of like people just living

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Speaker 1: their lives and doing what they want to do.

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Speaker 9: And I think where that gets tricky, so I would

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Speaker 9: actually reverse that. I would say it was like a

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Speaker 9: Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania, popular in rural areas but sort

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Speaker 9: of toxic and suburban areas. It was like the stop

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Speaker 9: the steel stuff that didn't feel relevant to people's lives

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Speaker 9: and made much more difficult for Republicans to message on

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Speaker 9: issues in the way that Glenn Youngkin did right, it

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Speaker 9: made it like impossible, like you can't be Glenn Younkin

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Speaker 9: if you're also a little Doug Masteriano.

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Speaker 4: And you're a little stop this deal.

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Speaker 9: Because where suburban voters are interested in what you say

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Speaker 9: about like you know, not affecting children and taking like

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Speaker 9: what DeSantis has tried to do in.

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Speaker 4: Florida schools with mixed results.

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Speaker 9: That stuff I think is appealing to normy parents, but

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Speaker 9: I think they're not interested if you're selling it with

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Speaker 9: stop the Steal packaging or like fringe maga packaging. I

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Speaker 9: think that's where an abortion makes that tough too, Like

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Speaker 9: abortion brings it down, like we're bringing Glenn Younkin down.

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Speaker 4: That's where people are just like, hold.

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Speaker 9: On, I'm either either not voting I'm going to vote

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Speaker 9: for a Democrat because I'm going to go vote for

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Speaker 9: John Fetterman, I'm going to go vote for someone else

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Speaker 9: because that's a little too far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right, And you know, there's just

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Speaker 1: it's I think the strongest pull issue for Republicans on

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Speaker 1: trans issues is around this question of like women's sports right,

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Speaker 1: where you have a majority who say no. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, how do you feel about that issue? But also,

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Speaker 1: you know, usually as Democrats that will fixate on these

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Speaker 1: issues that are really side periphery issues. So now you

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Speaker 1: have Republican legislatures passing whole laws in their states that

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Speaker 1: apply to like literally one kid in the whole.

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Speaker 5: State, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so okay, you are technically winning on the issue

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Speaker 1: in terms of public sentiment, But are swing voters voting

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Speaker 1: on this issue, like how relevant are they feeling it

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Speaker 1: to be to their lives? So even on the strongest issue,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a losing proposition. I think we saw

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Speaker 1: that in twenty twenty two, and then when you expand

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Speaker 1: it to like a freak out over anything that has

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Speaker 1: anything to do with gay people, it seems to me

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Speaker 1: you are dramatically on the wrong.

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Speaker 5: Side of that issue. And that's increasingly where this has gone.

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Speaker 9: It's so similar to the conversation we had about Ted

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Speaker 9: Cruise as you've gone to tweet being controversial with people

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Speaker 9: like Jenna Ellis specifically, because I think that's the it's

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Speaker 9: an impossible balance for Republicans to strike, for them to

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Speaker 9: be normy sort of anti woke enough right to bring

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Speaker 9: in the normy like young Cain voters, without them also

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Speaker 9: being for like a six week abortion ban, and you know,

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Speaker 9: like you said, like getting into transitions for adults, et cetera.

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Speaker 9: So like, I do think some of the stuff appeals

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Speaker 9: to swing voters, but you have to bring them in

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Speaker 9: with other things. Right, can't be this paired with stop

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Speaker 9: this deal, paired with six week abortion bans in the

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Speaker 9: way that Republicans have been going about it, because that

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Speaker 9: is it is toxic.

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Speaker 1: It's the anti woke mind virus. That's what I said

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Speaker 1: in that segment, and that's really what it is. So

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Speaker 1: just like with people who are woke, the American public

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Speaker 1: is going to be on board with you, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: everybody should be equal and treated equal under the law,

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Speaker 1: and like let's have civil rights. And people are like, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're on board with that. And then when it's like

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Speaker 1: let's you know, cancel and censor and have these like

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Speaker 1: authoritarian tactics in service of it, or let's go really

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Speaker 1: far and like, you know, cancel you if you're even

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Speaker 1: like vaguely say the wrong thing on an issue that

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Speaker 1: is difficult, people are like, no, we're not on board

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Speaker 1: with that. And it's sort of a similar thing that

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Speaker 1: has happened on the right in terms of You know,

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Speaker 1: people may have been with them on step one of

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Speaker 1: this progression, but by the time you get to step

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Speaker 1: one hundred today, you've lost them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just as we wrap up.

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Speaker 9: It reminds me of what Camille Paulia said in I

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Speaker 9: Think it Was twenty seventeen. She had a really interesting point,

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Speaker 9: which is to the question of overreach, like the Obama administration.

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Speaker 9: Obama finally comes out in supportive gay marriage. Biden does

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Speaker 9: it first, which never forget that was hilarious, but he

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Speaker 9: feels like he has the wind at his back, and

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Speaker 9: his Department of Education overreaches with the authoritarian tactic of

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Speaker 9: sending a dear colleague letter that totally changed and overstepped

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Speaker 9: every school's ability to sort of work out these issues

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Speaker 9: on their own, and said sex and gender identity had

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Speaker 9: to be conflated in Title nine, which led to a

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Speaker 9: lot of the sports backlash, and Polia said she was like,

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Speaker 9: that's when I knew Hillary Clinton was going to lose,

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Speaker 9: when that.

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Speaker 4: Became a campaign issue.

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Speaker 9: And that is before I think we saw Republicans take

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Speaker 9: some of the stuff and run with it in the

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Speaker 9: way they have by twenty twenty three, And so the

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Speaker 9: overreach on Democrats. Republicans are not being careful enough to

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Speaker 9: prevent overreach when they're pushing back on the DEM overreach,

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Speaker 9: which is sort of interesting because the dem overreach is

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Speaker 9: exactly what they're reacting.

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Speaker 1: To, right it gets captured by their like fringe, way

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Speaker 1: too online.

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Speaker 5: That's true, base, that's true. I think that's that's where

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Speaker 5: we are.

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Speaker 2: The scientific consensus, strong scientific consensus.

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Speaker 11: The overwhelming, near unanimous scientific consensus.

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Speaker 10: Is the consensus.

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Speaker 4: But what the good matter matter?

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Speaker 10: What is it with our seemingly blind obsession with scientific

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Speaker 10: consensus and is it a good thing? Hand Washing it's

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Speaker 10: just about the first thing we hear from doctors nowadays

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Speaker 10: as one of, if not the best, way to remove germs,

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Speaker 10: avoid getting sick, and prevent the spread of germs to others.

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Speaker 10: But some of you might already know hand washing was

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Speaker 10: not always scientific consensus.

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Speaker 8: Embarrass in particular, it's very surprising that there was so

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Speaker 8: much resistance to the idea of handwashing.

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Speaker 10: In the mid nineteenth century, Ignos Semoweis, a Hungarian physician,

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Speaker 10: was working in a Vienna hospital where he observed a

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Speaker 10: situation where healthy women would go into the hospital to

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Speaker 10: have a baby, and almost one out of every five

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Speaker 10: died from child bed fever, compared to a significantly lower

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Speaker 10: mortality rate in the adjacent midwife led ward. Intrigued by

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Speaker 10: this disparity, Semoweis noticed that doctors and medical students often

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Speaker 10: went from performing autopsies in one part of the hospital

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Speaker 10: to delivering babies in the ward next door without washing

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Speaker 10: their hands. He hypothesized that hand washing could prevent the

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Speaker 10: transmission of harmful germs, and when he implemented a strict

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Speaker 10: hand washing policy among doctors and physicians at his hospital,

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Speaker 10: the mortality rate in the maternity war dropped from eighteen

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Speaker 10: percent to about one percent, and the members of the

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Speaker 10: medical community were extremely grateful for the contributions of doctor Semowis.

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Speaker 10: And we all know now to wash our hands is

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Speaker 10: what I wish I could say, But that's not how

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Speaker 10: this story ends.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 11: If you try to go against authority and convention, you

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Speaker 11: can run into and mix some enemy.

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Speaker 10: And enemies he made the medical community. Doctors felt that

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Speaker 10: their professional status was being challenged undermined, and instead of

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Speaker 10: instituting changes, they launched a full scale smear campaign against Semowis,

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Speaker 10: spreading false rumors about his credibility and sanity until he

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Speaker 10: was discredited and ultimately exiled from his profession entirely, and

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Speaker 10: after a nervous breakdown in eighteen sixty five, he was

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Speaker 10: committed to an asylum, where he died a pariah at

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Speaker 10: the age of forty seven. I tell this story not

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Speaker 10: as an attack against the medical community as a whole,

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Speaker 10: or to say that contrarian viewpoints are always more valid

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Speaker 10: than the scientific consensus, but rather to highlight the alarming

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Speaker 10: parallels and the flawed ways in which I think the

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Speaker 10: modern establishment scientific and medical community arrives at and enforces consensus.

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Speaker 10: To dissect this topic, I think we first have to

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Speaker 10: start by talking about the series of social experiments conducted

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Speaker 10: by psychologists Solomon Ash in the nineteen fifties, in which

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Speaker 10: a volunteer is told that he's taking part in a

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Speaker 10: visual perception test, but what he doesn't know is that

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Speaker 10: the experiment is actually about group conformity, and that the

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Speaker 10: other participants are all actors.

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Speaker 12: The experiment you will be taking part in today involves

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Speaker 12: the perception of line length. Your task will be simply

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Speaker 12: to look at the line here on the left and

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Speaker 12: indicate which of the three lines on the right is

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Speaker 12: equal to it in length.

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Speaker 10: The actors have all been told to match the wrong lines,

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Speaker 10: and the volunteer, the real subject, will be monitored to

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Speaker 10: see if he gives the correct answer or if he

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Speaker 10: goes along with the opinion of the group and gives

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Speaker 10: the wrong answer three.

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Speaker 3: Three three three.

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Speaker 10: Over the course of the trials, on average, about one

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Speaker 10: third of the participants who were placed in this situation

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Speaker 10: went along and conformed with the clearly incorrect majority on

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Speaker 10: the critical trials, and about seventy five percent of participants

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Speaker 10: conformed at least once.

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Speaker 13: The ash experiment has been repeated many times, and the

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Speaker 13: results of being supported again and again.

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Speaker 3: We will conform to the group again. Were very social creatures.

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Speaker 8: We're very much aware of.

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Speaker 3: What the people around us tank.

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Speaker 1: We want to be liked, we don't want to be

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Speaker 1: seen to rock the vote, so we will go along

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Speaker 1: with the group, even if we don't believe what people

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Speaker 1: are saying.

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Speaker 10: I don't know what I would have done. I really

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Speaker 10: like to say that I'd be that at rogue Maverick,

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Speaker 10: but I don't know. I'm human, after all. But I

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Speaker 10: imagine a scenario where each of those participants are scientists,

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Speaker 10: and the three lines represent a possible result of a

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Speaker 10: research study meant to validate or invalidate the efficacy of, say,

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Speaker 10: a new drug, except this time around, everyone has been

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Speaker 10: paid and strongly incentivized to pick a specific line. That's

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Speaker 10: how modern science, specifically a lot of pharmaceutical research trials

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Speaker 10: arrives at consensus. Ben I Persad, a practicing hematologist, oncologist

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Speaker 10: and professor at the University of California, San Francisco and

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Speaker 10: friend of the show, talks about the perverse incentives that

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Speaker 10: have infected the scientific community.

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Speaker 13: The problem isn't that we don't know what are the

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Speaker 13: right ways to answer the questions. We do know the

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Speaker 13: right ways, but the system has flawed incentives, which is

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Speaker 13: that the more you can get people to believe your

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Speaker 13: thing is helping people, the more you can make money.

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Speaker 10: The National Institutes of Health the NIH is the primary

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Speaker 10: agency of the United States government responsible for biomedical and

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Speaker 10: public health research. Its purported mission is to seek fundamental

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Speaker 10: knowledge about the nature and behavior of living systems, and

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Speaker 10: the application of that knowledge to enhance health, length and life,

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Speaker 10: and reduced illness and disability. But to Prisad's point, it

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Speaker 10: was revealed by Adam Andrew Jeski of Open the Books

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Speaker 10: a public watchdoct group that NAH leadership and twenty four

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Speaker 10: hundred of its scientists have collected one point four billion

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Speaker 10: dollars worth of secret third party royalties from pharmaceutical companies

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Speaker 10: and other for profit enterprises over the past twelve years.

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Speaker 13: Every single one of those individual third party.

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Speaker 8: Royalty payments has the appearance of a conflict of interest.

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Speaker 10: Anthony Fauci, the former director of the National Institute of

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Speaker 10: Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the highest paid federal bureaucrat,

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Speaker 10: received twenty three royalty payments over that period of time.

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Speaker 10: Francis Collins, NIH director from two thousand and nine to

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty one, received fourteen payments. Clifford Lane, Fauci's deputy

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Speaker 10: at the NIAID, received eight paints. But as it currently stands,

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Speaker 10: the NIH has defined the Federal Freedom of Information Act law,

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Speaker 10: so we actually don't know who the royalty payments are

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Speaker 10: from and how much was paid.

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Speaker 11: You've been asking you, and you refuse to answer whether

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Speaker 11: anybody on the vaccine committees gets royalties from the pharmaceutical companies.

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Speaker 11: I asked you last time, and what was your response.

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Speaker 4: We don't have to tell you.

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Speaker 11: We've demanded them through Freedom of Information Act and what

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Speaker 11: have you said, We're not going to tell you.

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Speaker 10: And Ajeski calls it a conflict of interests. Rand Paul

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Speaker 10: implied pretty much outright corruption. I would call it a crime.

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Speaker 10: Pfizer's COVID nineteen vaccine commanity was developed from technology license

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Speaker 10: from the NIH, which means that NIH researchers, who supposedly

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Speaker 10: work on behalf of the people in search of scientific truth,

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Speaker 10: can actually personally profit from the sale of that product.

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Speaker 13: NIH is receiving tens of millions of dollars from Pfizer

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Speaker 13: on those royalty.

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Speaker 10: Payments, perhaps not coincidentally. In an up ed in The

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Speaker 10: Washington Post, a former Harvard Medical School professor warned that

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Speaker 10: a careful reading of the protocols used in the Pfiser

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Speaker 10: and Maderna COVID nineteen vaccine trials revealed that the trials

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Speaker 10: were designed to succeed from the start, which would likely

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Speaker 10: overstate their effectiveness, and that these protocols seem designed to

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Speaker 10: get a drug on the market sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 10: on a timeline arguably based more on politics than public health.

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Speaker 10: In twenty twenty two, Pfiser generated nearly thirty eight billion

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Speaker 10: dollars in revenue from the sale of its COVID nineteen vaccine,

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Speaker 10: which is almost forty percent of the company's total revenue.

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Speaker 10: And now, if we can try to set aside the

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Speaker 10: vaccine culture wars for a second, I hope you can

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Speaker 10: see the dangers here. Foundationally, through the ash experiments, we

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Speaker 10: understand the human desire to socially conform. But layered on

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Speaker 10: top of that, we have also legalized and legitimized a

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Speaker 10: system which consensus is established and in forced in the

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Speaker 10: scientific community through a series of lucrative yet secret financial

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Speaker 10: arrangements completely hidden from the public. And if that doesn't

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Speaker 10: do it, there are now laws on the books that

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Speaker 10: actually forbids doctors to share information that is quote contradicted

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Speaker 10: by contemporary scientific consensus, a real law that was signed

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Speaker 10: by Governor Newsom in California and went into effect January

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Speaker 10: first of this year.

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Speaker 11: So what is the solution We've demanded them through Freedom

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Speaker 11: of Information Act? And what have you said? We're not

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Speaker 11: going to tell you, but I tell you this, when

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Speaker 11: we get in charge, we're going to change the rules

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Speaker 11: and you will have to divulge where you get your

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Speaker 11: royalties from, from what companies and if anybody in the

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Speaker 11: committee has a conflict of interest, we're going to learn

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Speaker 11: about it.

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Speaker 5: I promise you.

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Speaker 10: That, to me, transparency in public health should be a

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Speaker 10: bipartisan issue. So I challenge Senator Randaul and his colleagues,

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Speaker 10: if you are willing to engage in political theater with

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Speaker 10: doctor Fauci, back it up with action more than just

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Speaker 10: a sternly worded letter. No, I'm talking about actual legislative change,

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Speaker 10: demand transparency of payments between the public and private sector,

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Speaker 10: and independence between public serving scientists and profit maximizing corporations.

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Speaker 10: If not, the only possible outcome is a continued erosion

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Speaker 10: in public trust and confidence in what they are calling

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Speaker 10: scientific consensus, which, according to p Research, has dropped precipitously

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Speaker 10: since the beginning of the COVID nineteen pandemic in early

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty. Just a few weeks ago, President Joe Biden

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Speaker 10: announced his new pick to head the NIH, doctor Monica

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Speaker 10: Burton Nooley, and perhaps not surprising at this point. According

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Speaker 10: to disclosures filed with Open Payments, she received two hundred

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Speaker 10: and forty seven million dollars in research funding from Provisor

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Speaker 10: from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty one, which should raise

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Speaker 10: major red flags about whether she would be able to

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Speaker 10: serve the public independently. So, honestly, my problem is not

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Speaker 10: with science, or the scientific method, or even the value

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Speaker 10: of scientific consensus. My problem is with the degree in

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Speaker 10: which I see scientific consensus being corrupted by opaque financial

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Speaker 10: ragin s it's hidden from the public and then enforce

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Speaker 10: through laws and statutes that forbids doctors and scientists from

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Speaker 10: challenging consensus. So I'd implore everyone to seriously consider the

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Speaker 10: long term dangers presented by a scientific consensus that has

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Speaker 10: seemingly been bought and paid for. My name is James Lee.

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