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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in a Steelers Nation radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolli and

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Speaker 2: he is the Matt Williamson and Matt on this day

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy two. Oh, this happened.

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Speaker 3: Bradshaw back and looking again. Bradshaw running out of the

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Speaker 3: pocket looking for somebody to throw to fires at downfield

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Speaker 3: and there's a collision that that's.

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Speaker 4: Put out of the air. The ball is pulled in

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Speaker 4: by Franchael Harris. Harris the boy Fred touched out of Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Harris the boy right second, not for the clock way,

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Speaker 4: Oh Harris pulling the football. I don't even know where

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Speaker 4: cap pam upball. There are people in the Enzo. Where

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Speaker 4: are the club bar?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely unbelievable, Holy.

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Speaker 2: Moly, the immaculate reception on this day in nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 3: Pretty cool. So miracles gonna happen, folks. It's not doom

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Speaker 3: and gloom. There's a lot of the things that can

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Speaker 3: happen in the playoffs. Stealers are going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: This reminds me of when the Raiders came here recently

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Speaker 3: did with scheduling to make that happen. Yeah, and what

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Speaker 3: a poor job they're doing with scheduling a oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, you know, watching watching the film

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, when nobody had any video at the

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Speaker 2: NFL of anybody throwing any kind of punches. Ah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, nobody had any of that radio.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like this one where you never actually

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Speaker 3: A little more explainable. In nineteen seventy, I was in

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Speaker 3: my mother's womb, you know, as opposed to Yeah, nowadays

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Speaker 3: when there's every camera angle on the planet and million

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Speaker 3: people with phones doing their share as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know where you planned on starting the segment.

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Speaker 3: There's a million different ways. Ago we got two shows

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Speaker 3: between games. This has been a really weird day for

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Speaker 3: me because I've been on two Steeler review shows and

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Speaker 3: get a little buffer in between, but my head's spinning.

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Speaker 3: But I do know that you want to bring up,

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Speaker 3: not as an excuse, but as a fact. What the

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Speaker 3: schedule was doing to Steelers is pretty darn brutal.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty brutal. And I thought about it as I

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Speaker 2: was putting my suitcase away.

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Speaker 3: I use it quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: Saturday night, as I got back from the trip to Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: two more weeks, hopefully three more weeks or more. And

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Speaker 2: I thought, we spent my birthday. I was in Cleveland

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Speaker 2: on my birthday in November twentieth. We're not to yet

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Speaker 2: to December twenty fifth. They've played five games and four

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Speaker 2: of them have been on the road, two of them

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Speaker 2: on short work weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yes, not to mention, everyone knows the three and eleven

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Speaker 3: days against what turns out to be, but probably wasn't

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Speaker 3: surprising to anyone. Really good football teams, and one of

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Speaker 3: them was a Super Bowl champion, one's your biggest rival.

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Speaker 3: The NFL knows these things when they schedule it, and

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Speaker 3: I do understand that the Texans Chiefs and Ravens are

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Speaker 2: Is a thing though, that the Texans and Ravens both

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Speaker 3: And unusually late bye. And then they get the Giants,

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Speaker 3: you gotta play better. You got to stop the run.

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Speaker 3: I get off the field, but this defense is taking

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Speaker 3: some taking some shrapnel, you know, I mean more you're

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Speaker 3: you're seeing here against what I think are two exceptional

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Speaker 2: Ye too, high quality teams. And so you know, in

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Speaker 2: both of those games, the Steelers are in the In

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Speaker 2: game turns out how it turns. Oh yeah, in this one,

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Speaker 2: Both times late in the third quarter, you're you're right

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Speaker 2: the tired legs do catch up with you. Yeah, using

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Speaker 2: that as an excuse, No, no, no, I mean that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there's they were the inferior

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Speaker 3: the field. I believe that to be true. That being said,

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Speaker 3: to last year. I mean, all these teams, the Eagles

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Speaker 3: the skin of their teeth quite a few times. Hey,

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Speaker 3: they've won loss. No one's crying for the Chiefs. But

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Speaker 3: even the best of teams have had ebbs and flows

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Speaker 3: throughout the course of the year. And it's kind of

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Speaker 2: This is a little different.

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Speaker 3: This is a little different. There was a condensed amount

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Speaker 3: of time that didn't go your way. This is two

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, these are two great teams. And oh,

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Speaker 3: a playoff berth before either one of those games even happens,

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Speaker 3: you know, and that's starting to pile up. But could

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Speaker 2: Like losing your best guy, which they did at wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: Right, that's a little leg last year too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at some point, and Mike Tomlin can pray

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Speaker 2: it's next men up, yeah, that's when it becomes an

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Speaker 3: Doesn't look great for him for this week, but it

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Speaker 2: Looks good for I have the injury report here.

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Speaker 3: Start there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. Let's go there. So everybody practiced at

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Speaker 2: least in some capacity except for Ben Scronic and Joey

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Speaker 3: Yeah you'll take it.

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Speaker 2: You'll take it again if it's just one defensive back.

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Speaker 3: And when we've talked about this for years, but last

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Speaker 3: So that's an issue. Again, not excuses. They're not the

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Speaker 3: Happy Christmas Eve Eve to all. By the way, that's

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Speaker 3: it's a brutal league. It's a war of attrition, it's

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Speaker 3: a marathon, it's whatever cliche you want. But those things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our friend, I can't think of his name, now,

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Speaker 2: if you don't do the job, well, you see what happens. Sure,

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry's getting into your secondary And that's not a.

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Speaker 3: Bad, big problem obviously. I mean, it's a very well

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Speaker 2: Of course, and they had I thought early in the

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Speaker 2: You had to stripsack early on the on the opening drive.

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Speaker 2: they recover that one. I think Lamar goes into tank

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Speaker 2: that he missed on weren't close. No, he's strolling with

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Speaker 2: because I think the fumble got into his head. But

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Speaker 2: the problem was for the Steelers, Lamar or Derrek Henley

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Speaker 3: you know, right or wrong, that they've always made it

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Speaker 3: our legs, you know.

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Speaker 2: How do you rebound from that?

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Speaker 3: That could have easily happened. Oh, they could have easily.

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Speaker 2: one to seven, but the Browns turned the ball over

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Speaker 2: six times in that game, and you still only won

437
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Speaker 2: twenty one to seven.

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Speaker 3: Plus six and turnover different ver y Yeah, yep, I

439
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Speaker 3: think that there are some obvious trends, and I'm sure

440
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Speaker 3: a lot of our listeners know that they've won. They're

441
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Speaker 3: not blowing anybody out. They win a ton of ones.

442
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Speaker 2: Certainly haven't blown a lot of teams out on the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't realize the road was as choppy as

444
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Speaker 3: it's been for them. They're interesting, I mean, because again,

445
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Speaker 3: they're trying for a three peat, they have one loss,

446
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Speaker 3: they have the best coach quarterback combination you'll ever ask for,

447
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Speaker 3: and Kelsey and they're just fine. Don't get me wrong.

448
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Speaker 3: But they're not this juggernaut that people think they are,

449
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Speaker 3: that's for sure. And they don't really create explosive plays

450
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Speaker 3: a ton. You know, there's some of their what they

451
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Speaker 3: do as a team, but not everything.

452
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Speaker 2: As a team. They're averaging nine point nine yards per catch.

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Speaker 2: If this were any team other than the Chiefs and

454
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, you'd say, oh, their passing game kind of

455
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Speaker 2: might be broken.

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Speaker 3: Among I know now, I fear that their passing game

457
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Speaker 3: is trending up, is leveling up now with not necessarily

458
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Speaker 3: more Keith Brown coming back, but worthy he's been a

459
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Speaker 3: much better weapon the last couple of weeks. He's out

460
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Speaker 3: there a heck of a lot more. And Brown did

461
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Speaker 3: come back, and he didn't run a ton of routes,

462
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Speaker 3: but they featured him heavily when he was out there.

463
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Speaker 3: They threw him the ball whenever he was running routes.

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Speaker 3: They've conserved Kelsey. I don't think that they'll play him

465
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Speaker 3: a ton of snaps in this game. I think that's

466
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Speaker 3: a conserve for the postseason type thing. Noah Gray has

467
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Speaker 3: been helpful, you know. I mean, he's better than Joe

468
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Speaker 3: blow backup tight end. But like when Racie Rice went down,

469
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Speaker 3: it hurt them dramatically. They we're not very explosive last year.

470
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Speaker 3: I mean that's why Brown this year even lesser. That's,

471
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Speaker 3: as I say, you go out of your way to

472
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Speaker 3: go get Worthy the fastest guy in combined history and

473
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Speaker 3: Marci's Brown's not far off. Was to get more explosive,

474
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Speaker 3: and overall they have not accomplished that. Yeah, Eve were

475
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Speaker 3: ideally a Racey Rice Kelsey centric type guy.

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Speaker 2: Worthy as fifty one catches, he's averaging eleven yards per

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Speaker 2: catch and he has a fifty four yard touchdown catch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

479
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Speaker 2: A lot of their stuff is run after the catch.

480
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a lot of short passes and Mahomes

481
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Speaker 2: is averaging six point six yards per past attempt, like

482
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Speaker 2: they're just getting the ball out of his hands a

483
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Speaker 2: lot and quickly. Yeah, I think it was less than

484
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Speaker 2: two point five seconds last week against Houston. They were

485
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Speaker 2: a yeah because he was super efficient because they know

486
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Speaker 2: he's compromised right now. Tackle stink, yeah, and their tackles stink.

487
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Speaker 2: They've stunk all year, whether he's healthy or not. It's

488
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Speaker 2: even worse now. And we haven't seen their injury report

489
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Speaker 2: for today. But Jawan Taylor, their right tackle, got hurt,

490
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Speaker 2: didn't finish the game. They've kicked Joe Thunei, their left

491
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Speaker 2: guard out to left tackle.

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Speaker 3: And he was good this past week and he's a

493
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Speaker 3: good football player. But yeah, you're a good guard.

494
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Speaker 2: If you're getting rid of the ball in two point

495
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Speaker 2: five seconds, everybody's good.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, Taylor to me wasn't money well spent.

497
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Speaker 3: But he's definitely been their best right it's been their

498
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Speaker 3: best guy. And you know, he's an average starting right

499
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: tackle that's getting paid like a well above average one.

500
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Speaker 3: He moves early a lot, and the lines in the

501
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Speaker 3: backfield quite a bit. But oh well, they drafted Sue Mattia.

502
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Speaker 3: They drafted Ethan Driscoll. Yeah, Sue Mattia they knew was

503
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Speaker 3: a project, but he's flopped.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if if Taylor can't play, do they

505
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Speaker 2: take one you Morris, who's left tackle, and put him

506
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Speaker 2: at right tackle? Do they put Sue Mattia there? Do

507
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Speaker 2: they put Ethan Driscoll there? On their depth chart they

508
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Speaker 2: list Driscoll is the backup there, but yeah, they also

509
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Speaker 2: lists Morris as the third string tackle.

510
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Speaker 3: And they don't want to play Tony tackle.

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Speaker 2: The problem with it with that is I don't expect

512
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Speaker 2: DJ Humphreys, who they I don't think he'll be back

513
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Speaker 2: yet off the street. So you've got six tackles on

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Speaker 2: your roster, including Humphrey. Yeah, okay, and quite frankly five

515
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Speaker 2: of them are five of them stink.

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Speaker 3: Let's say the two best ones are probably Humphrey and Taylor,

517
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Speaker 3: and the.

518
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Speaker 2: Sixth one, Taylor is average at best and questionable and questionable.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you cover up for that, and

520
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Speaker 3: I don't do you know? If you don't, don't worry

521
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Speaker 3: about it. I mean to tell you Monday, but do

522
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Speaker 3: you know who the left guard is? When Tony went

523
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Speaker 3: to tackle uh. They it wasn't a household name.

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Speaker 2: They listen, Mike Caliendo or yeah, Caliendo is the backup there, don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he I can't remember if he

526
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Speaker 3: started this week, I don't.

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Speaker 2: But but I mean the other the other four backups

528
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Speaker 2: are three backups you Hunter nors At at center, Ethan

529
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Speaker 2: Hans and Ethan Driscoll, j Hanson, Ethan Driscoll.

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Speaker 3: There are rookies, yeah, say they're all pops, all right.

531
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Speaker 2: So I would imagine it was Caliendo.

532
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Speaker 3: I think. So, I think I need to double check that.

533
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Speaker 3: I mean, I watched the game and they didn't stress

534
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Speaker 3: it much.

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Speaker 2: But he this isn't Frank kelliondo. He's not impersonating a

536
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Speaker 2: good starting left guard.

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Speaker 3: He's not impersonating Allen Fanica or Joe Toney. Yeah, but

538
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Speaker 3: it also that trio is much allot lot. I mean,

539
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: the guard center guard is really really good, and everyone

540
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Speaker 3: talks about how they're unbelievably good. I think they're quite good,

541
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Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but still the running backs aren't

542
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Speaker 3: even averaging four yards of carryer piece either. You know,

543
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: Checko and Hunt. Hunt benefits from volume, but he's not explosive.

544
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Speaker 2: He's averaging three point seven yards of carry, but Checko's

545
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Speaker 2: at three point eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and even like the explosives in

547
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Speaker 3: the passing game aren't being mitigated with explosives in the

548
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Speaker 3: run game.

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Speaker 2: It's almost the Steelers offense from from like Ben's last year,

550
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Speaker 2: where everything's coming out quickly because they don't test you

551
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: down the field. I mean even you know, Kelsey's averaging

552
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: eight point three yards of catch. Yeah yeah, he's caught

553
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Speaker 2: eighty nine passes, that's by far the most on the team,

554
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Speaker 2: and he's averaging lesson you know, not eight point three

555
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Speaker 2: yards per catch.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, he's not the run after the catch guy

557
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 3: he used to be. They don't back out running through

558
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Speaker 3: the secondary.

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00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you think about Pacheco a couple of years ago,

560
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: and he was averaging five yards of carry's because everybody

561
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Speaker 2: was backed off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: A lot more room to run. I mean, if you're

563
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Speaker 3: going to against those teams, oh, we'll give up five

564
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: yards of cary to Checko all day long. Please hand

565
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: it to him. Don't give it to Tyreek and Kelsey

566
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Speaker 3: and Prime and all these other dudes. Right, So, no,

567
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: they're manufacturing things. Reed is also known for I want

568
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: to get as many guys out in the routes as

569
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Speaker 3: possible to. I don't want to max protect, which I understand.

570
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Speaker 3: You know, you've got a really quick processor. Mahomes can

571
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Speaker 3: buy time, you know. I mean they're hard to deal

572
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Speaker 3: with when they're with his route combinations, with four and

573
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Speaker 3: five man row combos, you know, and even they play

574
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Speaker 3: a lot of extra tight and stuff is they always have.

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Speaker 2: They've had nineteen different players catch a pass this year.

576
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that too, and I went and looked

577
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: at it after you mentioned it today. Two of them

578
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: are a lineman or they have targets at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wandiam Wurris does have a catch. He has a

580
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: touchdown catch. I guess if you're not going to block anybody, CALLI.

581
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Speaker 2: Endo's the other one. He's got a five yard g Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I said, there's two old linemen on the list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean they will do that, but they're

584
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: looking for run after the catch. Oh yeah, it's really

585
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: what they're looking for. And so to me, that's a

586
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: big key in this game. Got to tackle better, particularly

587
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: the backs out of the backfield on those swing passes.

588
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: Like p Ryan had a thirty six yard catch and

589
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: run last week. Yeah, I know his Mahomes numbers look

590
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: good overall, but I didn't think he looked particularly great

591
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: in that game.

592
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Speaker 3: I thought his scrambling and movement stuff was his best stuff. Yeah,

593
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Speaker 3: even though he has a bad ankle, which I know

594
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: he does, but I thought.

595
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Speaker 2: Some of the passes, like he can't do the jump

596
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: passes like he was you know, typically does and that

597
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It was more just get it out,

598
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: get it out and hope, you know, hopefully get something.

599
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: You know. That was their long gain in that in

600
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: that game was the thirty six yarder. I mean, people

601
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: are down the sideline and.

602
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: This won't change. Clearly, they worried about, you know, Hunter,

603
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: and I mean that's a really good pass rus they

604
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: had to deal with. And it doesn't change this week

605
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: for them, you know, at all. On a super short week.

606
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're going to run back a lot of

607
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: the same concepts.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is one of the one of the

609
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: things that that Mahomes does differently than other quarterbacks. It's

610
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: different than you know, playing against Lamar or some of

611
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: these other guys, is he looks to escape backwards first.

612
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a lot of that, and you know's

613
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Speaker 3: not how they teach it.

614
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: No, it's not how they like.

615
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: So you know, you might knock some kind of tax

616
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: attack like this guy scrambled and turns his back to

617
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Speaker 3: the defense.

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Speaker 2: And he might be twenty yards behind the line of

619
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Speaker 2: scrimmage and still looking to throw the football.

620
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Speaker 3: The kids don't do it this way. You're not Pat Mahomes, right.

621
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Speaker 2: But if he is, you know, even slightly still compromised,

622
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: you know, it just makes it a little bit differently,

623
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Speaker 2: and you know, so you do have to rush him

624
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: a little bit differently than other quarterbacks. He did show,

625
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, on the on the fifteen yard touchdown run

626
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: he is able to step up in the pocket and.

627
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: He's a really smart run. It was a straight run.

628
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: He didn't have to cut it all. He just ran

629
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Speaker 2: straight ahead basically the entire way. If you look at

630
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Speaker 2: his numbers for the season on third downs, he's run

631
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: the ball twenty three times. He's gotten first downs on

632
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Speaker 2: twelve of those. The third down stuff, to me is

633
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: really interesting with him because if you look at the

634
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: early down stuff, he's obviously has been good first down

635
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: though six touchdowns, four interceptions. He's got a pass rating

636
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: of eighty four point eight on first down. Second down

637
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: it's eighty six point five. He's got six touchdowns and

638
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: five interceptions. Pedestrian numbers for a guy this good on

639
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: third down one nine point two, ten touchdowns, one interception

640
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: on third down, And so you start looking at that

641
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: was is it third and longs that he's looking You

642
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: know that he's really doing well with is it? You

643
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: know it's but they they game yards on first and

644
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: second down. He gets into third and four less and then.

645
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Speaker 3: He's remarkably efficient. I mean like they're the definition of

646
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: great success rate. Like if you look at their EPA,

647
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: it's low, but their success rate is number one because

648
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: they get just enough. Yes, you know, on third and

649
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: six they get seven. They don't get ten, they get seven,

650
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: but they consistently get that.

651
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: They all know exactly where the sticks is, and he

652
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: knows exactly where the sticks are.

653
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: He's become a death by a thousand paper cut quarterback

654
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: as opposed to run around for four seconds, light you

655
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: up with. Not that he can't do those things still,

656
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: but he keeps reinventing himself. And the analytics folks will

657
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: tell you you know, it's it's a fine line to

658
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: live that way. You can't always do it, and there

659
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: is some truth to that, but it's kind of like,

660
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: can't keep winning close games either. Well, Ben and Tomlin can,

661
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: Brady and Belichick can, but at.

662
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Some point you don't like, fifteen in a row is

663
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: a lot.

664
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a ton.

665
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: It's a lot.

666
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: It's ton.

667
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: And I look at his his road numbers this year.

668
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: He's fifteen in a row and like one score games.

669
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,239
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, what I'm saying, fifteen in a row.

670
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: At some point that catches up to you. I mentioned

671
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: the home road splits.

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00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

673
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: He has thirteen touchdown passes in seven road games. He

674
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: also has seven interceptions. Like seven of the eleven interceptions

675
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: have come in those road games. You know he will

676
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: throw you one.

677
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: He has played fewer.

678
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and then when you you know, you start

679
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: looking at some of the other stuff. They've been a

680
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: kind of a slow starting team. Have they first quarters

681
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: of games this year?

682
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

683
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: He has a seventy six point nine passer rating. He's

684
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: thrown two touchdown passes and five interceptions in the first quarter.

685
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: So the second quarter, however, he is a one to

686
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: nine point four passer rating, twelve touchdowns and one interception.

687
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: They've outscored their opponents in the second quarter of games

688
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: one forty one to eighty three. That's plus fifty eight. Wow,

689
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: in one quarter, they're plus seventy eight overalls.

690
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, that's not far off.

691
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so most of that is coming in the

692
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: second quarter. So if you can weather, if you can

693
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: get a lead on them early, whether they storm in

694
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: the second quarter, they're pretty much fifty to fifty in

695
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: the second half.

696
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Speaker 3: Trying to think why that would be. I mean, that's

697
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: the first I heard those things.

698
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Speaker 2: Before you make your adjustments.

699
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Speaker 3: I think. See, I'm thinking that Reed and Mahomes are

700
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: so good and so smart that after they see a

701
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: series or two, Okay, now I know what they're doing,

702
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: and I attack, I attack, I attack. Yeah, and then

703
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: you realize you don't have Kelsey and Hill in their

704
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: prime anymore, and the Jimmy's and Joe's start to where,

705
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 3: you know, bring me back to reality a little bit.

706
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: As the game goes on. Yeah, you know, you don't

707
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 3: run away with things you're not. Okay, now I got

708
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: that lead going into half, everyone's going to crowd the

709
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: box I'm gonna beat him over the top, and it's

710
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: it's not the way teams are playing them.

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00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: His second half passer rating is eighty two point three. Okay,

712
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's average.

713
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: Yah, it's very average. If you look at I mean

714
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: his numbers across the borders here, pretty average.

715
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: Pretty average, except in the first half he's at ninety

716
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: seven point one because of that explosive second quarter. Third quarter,

717
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: his passer rating is sixty eight.

718
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: Wow, sixty eight yeah, yeah.

719
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Speaker 2: Fourth quarter now goes to ninety seven point seven. But

720
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Speaker 2: if you look at it and everybody says, oh, you

721
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: don't want to give the ball to Mahomes, you know,

722
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: down a score with less than two minutes left, or

723
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: two minutes remaining, trailing with less than two minutes to go.

724
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Speaker 2: This season, Patrick Mahomes is four of eight for nineteen yards.

725
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

726
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's a sixty he's thrown, and he's thrown

727
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: an interception that's a sixteen point seven passer rating.

728
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: Eight attempts, though, I mean they're never losing lad in a.

729
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: Game, even so, trailing with less than four minutes to go,

730
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: six of ten for forty yards in an interception that's

731
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Speaker 2: a twenty nine point two passer rating. So this whole

732
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: idea that you can't give the ball back to them. Now,

733
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: I understand in previous years that has been the case,

734
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: sure the buff team. So I think what's happening in

735
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: many of these cases is teams go into these late

736
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: game situations, well, we got to go for it here.

737
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: We can't give the ball back to Patrick mahonae, we

738
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: can't kick a field The Bills did it. The Bills

739
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: are up two points on them late in the game,

740
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: they faced a fourth down, they could have kicked the

741
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: field goal to go up five. They went for it instead,

742
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: and they ended up going in and scoring a touchdown.

743
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: They go up two scores.

744
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: But the.

745
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: Against most teams, you go ahead and kick the field

746
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: goal and say you got to score a touchdown on us. Now,

747
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: against Buffalo a few years ago in the AFC Championship,

748
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 2: Mahomes when he had tyreek hill and zoom thirteen seconds

749
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: right down the field.

750
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a historic moment, and yeah, playoff history, right.

751
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: But I think teams take more chances against this particular

752
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: team in the fourth quarter because well, we're playing Patrick

753
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: Mahomes here. Yeah, and the numbers don't necessarily bear that out.

754
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: And we talked about this a little off the air too.

755
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: That's kind of back to like the Belichick Brady years,

756
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: you know that. I think it's even different than I

757
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: think it's even wider than just the fourth quarter or

758
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 3: your last drive. I think you prepare different during the week.

759
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: At some point, we have to steal a possession. We

760
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: might have to try back when you're allowed to surprise

761
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: on side, you know, a fake punt, something goofy like that,

762
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: to steal a possession from these guys. And they're not

763
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: quite the big bad wolf anymore, where you have to

764
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: play outside your norm just to compete with them.

765
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Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the things that a

766
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: coach like Mike Tomlin does. You know, if you again,

767
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: if you can weather the storm early against someone like

768
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: Raven Steelers, you know, don't take the chance. Don't burn

769
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: down the barn before it's time to burn down the barn.

770
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: At some point you gotta sometimes do stuff like that

771
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: of the norm, but don't lose the game by doing

772
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: something stupid.

773
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: Playing left handed or trying to We'll install this on

774
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: a super short week and try this fleef like or

775
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: we'd never try before. I don't do that.

776
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, play play the game. Play the game, and you know,

777
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: if you're in position to take a lead, take the lead.

778
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: Don't don't get crazy here because I don't. It's not

779
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: that Mahomes. I don't think Mahomes is capable, of course,

780
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: I just wonder about some of the weapons being capable, right,

781
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: And I wonder exactly in a two minute situation where

782
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: they have to push the ball down the field, everybody

783
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: knows past, past, past, and you're gonna tell TJ what

784
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: he's throwing the football here, You're inn tell Alex Heismith

785
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: he's throwing the football here. There's a good chance they

786
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: get home.

787
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, I'm sure anyone would tell you.

788
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: The protection on the offensive tackle situation is dire.

789
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: It might be as bad as any team in the league.

790
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing. And even like Mahomes,

791
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: who never throws his guys under the bus or never

792
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: has any like bad, rarely has bad uh, you know,

793
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: body language, things like that, He's been noticeably frustrated throughout

794
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: the course of the year. Sometimes like just give me

795
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: the two point five seconds.

796
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Youah, I mean, sometimes sometimes they can't even do that.

797
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 3: It's almost like unblocked pressures.

798
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again his first reaction is to go backwards.

799
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: You might be running right into those good pass rushers,

800
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: you know. And again if if they're gonna play Thony

801
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: at left tackle instead of left guard, that's Cam Hayward.

802
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: Oh right, I thought you were talking about the left

803
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: tackle situation because I thought Heismith was one of the

804
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: best players on the field yesterday. Again, Stanley, Yeah, so,

805
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's just not what Thuny's built to do.

806
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's just a different animal getting out

807
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: there on the edge. Although if you listen to Alan

808
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: Fan could talk about it, that was that was easy.

809
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 2: Like I only get a block one guy. I don't

810
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: have to worry about different gaps and stuff. All right, Alan,

811
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: you're you're not You're not the norm here, right, you know?

812
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: I think soon he might have came in the league

813
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: as a tackle. Most tackle turned guard types. I can't remember,

814
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: but I think that rings a bell. It'd be interesting

815
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: though on a short work week, I I assume, like

816
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: I gotta just run it back a guy like Wanya Morris,

817
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: it's probably been practicing on the left side. I want

818
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: to say he might have been a right tackle to

819
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: Oklahoma to or definitely has bounced back and forth.

820
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: He bounced back and forth. But if you haven't done

821
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: it all season, does it take you some time to

822
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: warm up to it. No, by the way, you got

823
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: t J.

824
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: Watt. Yeah, yeah, it's a really difficult situation.

825
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: I've had it.

826
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's definitely the Steelers' biggest advantages game without question.

827
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: Edge verse tackles is huge. The biggest screpancies you'll see.

828
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, but let's get through a break. Y is

829
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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

830
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and

831
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: I will be back with more right after this.

832
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Speaker 3: At least.

833
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams on

834
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

835
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

836
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lay. He is

837
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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. And you're having fun here on a Monday,

838
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Chili Monday. It's starting to warm up a little bit

839
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 2: and the weather's.

840
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, not respecting craziness.

841
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not supposed to be a factor at all.

842
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: This I wanted to say this weekend on Wednesday, Yeah,

843
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 2: I have no idea what day.

844
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Speaker 3: It is now.

845
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: I hear nows Christmas Eve from what I understand. None,

846
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: it's just the like I'm watching. I'm covering press conferences

847
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: on Sundays. Just crazy schedule, Yeah, crazy schedule. Anyways, we're

848
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: talking about the Kansas City Chiefs. Look at their defense

849
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: Matt Chris Jones will see if he is cleared to

850
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: go in this one or not.

851
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: But he's close. I wouldn't.

852
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't either if I were them. He's really important

853
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: to that defense.

854
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: Super important a defense. He's one of the best defensive

855
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 3: players in the league. You like, take Cam Heyward out

856
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: of the Steelers. Yeah, I mean he is a real force.

857
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: He's been one of the best defensive players for five

858
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: years or so. I mean, he's gonna go to the

859
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. I mean, assuming he keeps us up.

860
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: Probably is already with the rings. What's interesting about him

861
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: is on clear passing downs, he comes out of the

862
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: huddle and decides, I'm gonna line up there. Yeah, I'm

863
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: gonna go against the left guard.

864
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: This, and then everybody else adjusts.

865
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Speaker 3: Everyone else adjusts. You know, they obviously won't do that

866
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: if he doesn't play and he's been known to take

867
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: a first down or two off. I mean he's a

868
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: very different style of player than Cam from you know,

869
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: consistency efforts.

870
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 2: He's always like third downs, you're gonna get his best effort.

871
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because he's all about the sacks.

872
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: But his sack numbers aren't crazy. Yeah, I mean I

873
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: think he's got five or something like that. Yeah, it's fine,

874
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: but it's not insane. He's a great player though. He's

875
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: got amazing length, he's got power. He's a bear.

876
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: If he plays, every offensive lineman on the Steelers is

877
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: going to have to put hands on him at some

878
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: time or of it.

879
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: Right, Twist stunts where he aligns, you know, all those things.

880
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: If he plays. I he doesn't play a ton of snaps.

881
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably the situation. It's probably is.

882
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: They don't play him already. Yeah, they don't play him

883
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: a ton of snaps as it.

884
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: Is, right right, They have a decent rotation. He's the

885
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: straw that serves.

886
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is the guy.

887
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: Have a lot of big, physical, pound your face front

888
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: seven players Leo Chanald and Carloftis. They're not real benders

889
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: or I mean they're run ahead bulls and China shops,

890
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: big physical type guys.

891
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to, and that was their problem. I

892
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: think early in Mahomes career that you looked at and said, well,

893
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: you want to try to run and keep him standing

894
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: on the sideline. We can't really do that against these guys. Now, No,

895
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 2: you're not gonna bang. Yeahah, I mean they give up

896
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: what do they give up? Four yards per carry, which

897
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: is again pretty good overall, ninety one point four yards

898
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: per rush. And again they haven't been blowing everybody out.

899
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 3: No, it's not pin in your ears back.

900
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not We're up by seventeen points and

901
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: you can't run the football. It's a situation.

902
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: Where the game is still They're always a close game.

903
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a close game, and teams just are not

904
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: able to consistently run the football against them. And that's

905
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: one area where I think we know the Steelers did it.

906
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: You know last they ran the ball effectively against Baltimore.

907
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: Most teams go into this like they're playing this, you know,

908
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: against the Ravens, like they're playing the two thousand and

909
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: one Steelers. We're just not going to try yeah. Yeah,

910
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: And the Steelers were adamant about continuing to run the football.

911
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: I thought it was one of the most positive things

912
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: that happened Saturday was the running game kind of looked

913
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: like it used to. I mean there were nice holes.

914
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: Warren's running really really well. It was consistently productive. You know,

915
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: I've been harping on three point nine per carry it

916
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 3: isn't going to get it done, and it's not, you know,

917
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: but now they're getting six ish on a lot of runs.

918
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: And that was a big difference to me in that

919
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: game that I saw. And again, I know people are

920
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: looking at Arthur say they didn't do this, Arthur Smith

921
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: latt there was over six yards per play on first

922
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: down in that game.

923
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they threw it more. Yeah. And and Steve never

924
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 3: at Jost they always just do the same thing. Run run, pass,

925
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: like they're not paying attention. Yeah, you got actually watched

926
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 3: the game. It was about fifty to fifty split on

927
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: first downs in that game, and they weren't third and

928
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: all the time, they had more than half their yards

929
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: in the game on first down.

930
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: It surprise, they had over one hundred and seventy yards

931
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: in the game just on first downs.

932
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that that that certainly adds up.

933
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: And you know, something you've been harping on was you know,

934
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: it's been what you're getting to third down too much?

935
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: They were only in third down ten times? Yeah, exactly

936
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: because they were converting. They were converting early.

937
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: Yep. I thought Wilson was sharp other than two plays

938
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: or so. You know, the running game was much better

939
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: and you weren't loaded with weapons, you know. I mean,

940
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: I thought there were a lot of encouraging things from

941
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: that game, and that's probably the most important of it all.

942
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you're getting George Pickens back.

943
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: Okay.

944
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

945
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: During that while he was out, we've seen Calvin Austin

946
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: step up into a more become more of a useful

947
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: weapon on a regular basis. We've seen Pat Friarmouth become

948
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: more of a useful weapon on a consistent basis. I

949
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 2: understand they didn't throw him a ton of passes last week.

950
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: The Ravens might have had something to do with that.

951
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: They know, they see those guys watched Tate big well.

952
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: Pat Farnmo has caught a touchdown in three straight games.

953
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Let's not allow him to take over the game. Let's

954
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: not allow you know, take away that.

955
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: We should have predicted that. I mean, like a team

956
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: that's super familiar with you and they and you see

957
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: three games in a row, Friar Mouse, production usage, everything

958
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: was trending up up.

959
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: It's not.

960
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: That's not how league work. You know when people people

961
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: come into race trends. I mean, that's the way the

962
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: league work.

963
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: And then one of the big questions in the locker

964
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: room today is why wasn't Pat you know, Arthur Smith,

965
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: you know Pat Farnmouth have been used a lot. Why

966
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: wasn't he used as much in this game? And and

967
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: like Arthur Smith was talking about, he goes, you know,

968
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: he I think Farnworth was targeted two or three times

969
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: in the game. And he says, this whole target thing

970
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: is a little misleading. He's just because he was only

971
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: thrown to pass, you know, that many passes doesn't mean

972
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: he wasn't the primary target when we drop back to

973
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: pass or called to play right right. But what they

974
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: do affects how we run that big covered.

975
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: If he's your first read in the play and he's.

976
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: Bracket, he's got one guy in this side, one guy

977
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: on that side, you're not throwing him.

978
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: The ball, right, all right? I would have to study

979
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: it more, but I can bet everything. I have one

980
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: of their priorities was takeaway Friarmouth first read stuff. I mean,

981
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: of course, yeah, right, I we go to the Austins

982
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 3: of the world and injuries aren't great. Yeah, there's nothing

983
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: great about him, but it does create opportunity experience for

984
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: others too. You know, Caz showed that he can play

985
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: deep middle, you know, like, okay, you know I know

986
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: that now, right. I mean things like that, scronic can

987
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 3: be useful. You know, Austin has stepped up dramatically through

988
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: the course of the year. I mean, he's I keep

989
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: talking about him a big picture like he's a piece

990
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: of the pie. Now.

991
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: You know, he's actually the number two receiver on this

992
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 2: team right now, right right, Like you who's the number

993
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: two receiver? Well, right now, Tim, it's him. In terms

994
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: of the wide receivers, it's Calvin Austin.

995
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: Yep. And the big thing I was saying last week

996
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: when I thought Pickens was going to play in this one,

997
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: but it's crunch time now, you know, And this is

998
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: a sort of a playoff thing, but I think it's

999
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: time to streamline your skill position dudes. You know, like, yes,

1000
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: it was great that Patterson made a nice cutch touchdown

1001
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: catch same with Pruitt. Great, you know, but when you're

1002
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: out there in two receiver sets Tree Pickens in Austin, well, you.

1003
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 2: Know Patterson's touchdown came out of the backfield.

1004
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I know.

1005
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: That was strictly like we're gonna get this guy matched

1006
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: up on that linebacker. And it was something that we

1007
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: talked about, like we went big, attacked that guy and

1008
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 2: make him play coverage. And it worked.

1009
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: It was and if it was Roque, they might not

1010
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: have thrown it, right, if it was a safety or Hamilton,

1011
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 3: they might not have thrown it. It was we got

1012
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: a match up face.

1013
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that point in the game, you're like, Okay,

1014
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: he's always a line there, he's taken the back. We

1015
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: got this.

1016
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're gonna if that's how it goes, I'm

1017
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: going there no matter what and go up and be big.

1018
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 3: But my point was, like I like prud and Patterson,

1019
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 3: those guys chipping in, but most snaps, I want Austin Pickens, Washington,

1020
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: friar Mouth and a back on the field. You know

1021
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: that that's your That's how you win playoff games.

1022
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: You know. I don't have a problem with Scronic playing

1023
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 2: I agree. I think that he does a lot of

1024
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: like nasty stuff out there stuff. He's kind of your

1025
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 2: Washington and can make play receivers, Yeah, and can make play.

1026
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: Doesn't look good for him this week though, right Uh

1027
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: he did not practice again today.

1028
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean super short week of course, But no,

1029
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: he's a good stealer.

1030
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: He is a useful football player. He's Miles Boyke and plus.

1031
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: Yes he's a better offensive player than boy could ever but.

1032
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: A similar style blocker, and certainly I think is a gunner.

1033
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Everybody every body's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I

1034
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: wonder I wonder who will Trice be the gunner if

1035
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: he's on out there?

1036
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Probably he was in game, Yeah, yeah, Trison Pierre Okay,

1037
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: so yeah there you're yeah. Anyways, let's get to another break.

1038
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our number one of

1039
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network and the Drive,

1040
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: Matt and I will be back with our number two.

1041
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: By the way, Chris Jones actually playing eighty two point

1042
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: seven percent of the defensive snaps this year for the Chiefs.

1043
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: Wow, more than I would have guessed.

1044
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: More than I would have guessed too, And I wonder

1045
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: if that's why his sack totals are down a little bit,

1046
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: maybe he's getting a little gassed.

1047
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: Could see this.

1048
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: In previous years he.

1049
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: Was not that high. No, no, I mean not that

1050
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: he's just situational, but that's pretty high. That's a lot

1051
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 3: for a defensive tackle, period, right, Yeah, that might be

1052
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: higher than Hayward. Yeah.

1053
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about this game in our number two.

1054
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: That's going to do it for our number one. We'll

1055
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: be back with more right after this