1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost as podcast. Today is me. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Ben is on a plane. He was delayed, so he 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: isn't able to make our interview with the beautiful, the 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: wonderful Latia Gar. Hello, welcome to the show. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: Hi Ashley, thanks so much for having me. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: Hi, Oh my gosh, thank you so much for being here. 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: You were one of the cast members in recent memory 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: that I can actually feel being like very glued to. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: I loved I actually enjoyed watching Grants season in episodes 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: because of you, because like I really started to feel 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: very attached to you. I guess like top six ish, okay, 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: and just like thank you for being such a compelling character. 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: I was really rooting for you. I think that you 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: just seemed like you were like fun and you're beautiful, 17 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: he had depth, and I don't know, you like kind 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: of felt like a character that we would have seen 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: years ago on the franchise. Not that like that's not 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: the poopoo on anybody right now, but it's just like 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: the investment that I had in your relationship was the 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: investment level that I was more used to having about 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: a decade ago. 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: Oh, that's so nice of you to say. 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: I feel like I have looked out with the conversations 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: in time that I had, like serious, like compelling stuff 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 4: came up. I feel like, I mean, we really didn't 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 4: talk about it like anyone else in the house. 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: It was mostly just about me and him. 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: So I feel like it made it easier in that 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: way that most of our time was just about him 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 4: and I. 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 3: So that's nice of you. Thank you so much, thanks 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: for having me. I'm a course thanks. 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: So when you look back on your time on the season, 36 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: do you see it through totally different lenses? When you left? 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: Did you think, man, I am heartbroken and this pain 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: is going to last so long? Or did you have 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: some sort of like I always describe like the lifting 40 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: of the bachelor bubble kind of or you're all of 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: a sudden thinking like oh wow, like he was hot, 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: but I think it was just hot and I'm not 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: sure whether or not like I truly felt as intensely 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: because you're in this bubble, What do you was? What 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: was your thoughts? 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: I think I have looked at it from a few 47 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: different lenses, right, Like I think initially when I went 48 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: home and I'm like driving away in the car, I'm like, 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: what was that? Like, I'm so like confused, Like I 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: just had the rug pulled and I have no context 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: or anything. And I think like as I sat at home, 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, yeah, it was a little bit 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: of a bubble, and like I kind of it kind 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: of starts to click that like I really didn't have 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 4: that much time with him, so there really were so 56 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: many gaps that were like big, and I just missed 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: so many like parts of his person and there's just 58 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: like missing context for so much. 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: And then for sure watching it back. 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: And seeing like other people's conversations added even like a 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: different layer of perspective where I was like, Okay, yeah, 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: like the conversations that he's having with other people are 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: not aligned with the version that I that I had 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: in my head while I was filming. And so it's 65 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 4: like you continue to learn. And I think that's like 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: with any breakup, you know, like you continued, like it 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 4: kind of continues to make sense more and more as 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: you get away from it, and as like your feelings 69 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 4: kind of like fade away, you know. 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Can you give us an example, Yeah, can you give 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: us an example of like a conversation that you saw 72 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, this is totally different than what 73 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: I thought that guy was about. 74 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: I mean, any of his time with Juliana was just, 75 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: like I think, a different version of him than I saw, 76 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: you know, like I think, but that's also so fair, 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: because you know, different people bring out different sides of you, 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: and so like that's not to say anything about either 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: one of them. It was just more like, oh, yeah, no, 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: our relationship was so so different than theirs, and like 81 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: I just didn't you know, there were parts of it 82 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: where I. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: Just like didn't recognize. I was like, oh, okay, Like 84 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: good to know. 85 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: There was some speculation during your season that if you 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: were to pick you, he was in it, he was 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: gonna have to long haul it. Take it seriously, Heaven 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: forbid you take an engagement sercialces. Oh yeah, yes, yes. 89 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: But if he went the Juliana route, she may have 90 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: been a little bit more lax about how far, you know, 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: how fast they led to marriage and all that. Maybe 92 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: he got the vibe that he could just like date 93 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: her in real life. What's your thoughts watching it back, especially. 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think that Juliana's timeline is different 95 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: than mine. I didn't really ever talk to her about that, 96 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: but mine wasn't news to him, Like we talked about 97 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: that during the Finance. 98 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: Date when Hannah Berner was on. He like, yeah, this 99 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: game too. 100 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 4: They didn't to show our conversation that night, but he 101 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: put this game together with different cards and asked about 102 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: my timeline when I wanted to have kids, and I 103 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: was like, well, once, I like meet my person like 104 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: within two years, and so if it's you, then like 105 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: two years from now is ideal. But that's like a conversation. 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 4: That's a lot of conversations that we have together, and so. 107 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: My religion and my timeline and all. 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: The rest of it seemed to be a big deal 109 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: for him at the end, but it wasn't new information. 110 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: He knew that week too, so I was kind of 111 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 3: like all right. 112 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: And to me, say I love you and said like 113 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: you're the one. 114 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah several times. 115 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah it was that. 116 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: He said it the first time. 117 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: I think he said it on FaceTime to my mom, 118 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 4: and he said it like throughout the date, like the 119 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: puppy date. He said it like a bunch of times, 120 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: and I remember looking at it like like I literally 121 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: looked at Bradford, and I was like, are you, like, 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: is you like allowed to say stuff like that? 123 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: And you know I was. It was just. 124 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 4: He continued to say it the whole time, whether or 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: not he was supposed to. And I know that they 126 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 4: talked to him about it several times, but yeah, he 127 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 4: kept saying it. 128 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: What's crazy is like I know that multiple bachelors, my 129 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: co hosts included, have said I love you to two 130 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: people like that to me, like actually makes sense. What 131 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me is him kept keep he 132 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: kept saying to you, you're the one, like you're the one. 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 134 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: He's even more intense in the bachelor process totally. 135 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: I think, like it's so hard and like this is 136 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 4: dating in general, right, Like you are thinking, like when 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: they say something to me, that means something to me, 138 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: but I don't really know what that means to you, 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: and like you might be someone that they're like trying 140 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: on for size and they say things like you're my wife. 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: You're the one that I'm like, oh my gosh, you 142 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: act like you know so in my mind you know 143 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: that I'm your wife. So I got to catch up 144 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: or I got to like, you know, cut you loose 145 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: and so. But to them they're just like no, like 146 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: that's just like how I like approach dating, Like I don't. 147 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: Know, that's messed up. 148 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: It is, it's messed up. 149 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: But I like, I'm not going to pretend to know 150 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: what goes on in the minds of boys and men. 151 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: But I think, like, you know, for whatever reason, it 152 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: made sense to him. And I think I think he 153 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: even now says that he didn't say it, which is 154 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: like fine, I don't care, like it's you know whatever, 155 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: But I think that, yeah, he said it a bunch 156 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: and like you're my wife. He said it for the 157 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: first time actually to me and to like producers when 158 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: it was on the first group date when we did 159 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: like that R and B like my open mic thing, 160 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: when we had like our conversation and I was crying 161 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: about dating and he was like, I know that you're 162 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: my wife and then he like said it, Oh yeah, 163 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: I don't know he's where's this part on his sape? 164 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: I think is what he calls it. 165 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: I know that you're my wife from like week two. 166 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: Which is like so old red flag right like that 167 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: like normal people don't say stuff like that, Yeah that's true. 168 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 4: When is your wife after you know, fifteen minutes, thirty 169 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 4: minutes of conversation, so that should have been like my 170 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: first thing. I think in my mind, I was like, well, 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: he knows it's being filmed, and like he's actually actively 172 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: dating other people, so like there's a litmus test kind 173 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 4: of built into this process of like comparing everything and 174 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: like comparing other relationships. 175 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: It sounds way more intense to say that, yeah when 176 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: there's other people involved. 177 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: That's what I thought. 178 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: If you were like dating in real life and he 179 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: said that, and then you guys got to know each 180 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: other better and it ended up not being the truth. 181 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: That would be like one thing, yeah, but for you 182 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: to just be in a competition and he crowns you 183 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: wife at that point, Wow, okay, actions matched. 184 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: I think was the was, honestly, like the most like 185 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: I don't even I don't want to say deceiving part, 186 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: but like that's that That is what I felt let 187 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: on by the most is that like, yeah, it was 188 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: the only one that had two one on one dates 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: and I was the you know, like he always called 190 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: my name first for roses and like like other girls 191 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 4: like when they were leaving, like in their exit interviews 192 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: were like well I know it's her, like, so it 193 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: like it wasn't just like, oh, it's all in my head. 194 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: I was like, no, like I mean privately and publicly 195 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: like he like his actions match his words. 196 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: Just do you think there's love bombing? Like I don't 197 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: even know what. 198 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 4: Hundred percent, but I think, like to say I love 199 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: you in eight weeks that's love, Like that's in my mind. 200 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: You know, that's like a very like accelerated like dating relationship, 201 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: from meeting someone to getting engaged like you, I kind 202 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: of like had already made my piece at that going in. 203 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 204 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: Like I was just like, yeah, yeah, the show goes, 205 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: I know that they get engaged at the end, So there. 206 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: Is like romance bombing. 207 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, like there like there's a love bomby like 208 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: aspect of this whole thing built into it. 209 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah definitely. So when do you think it's 210 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: switched to him choosing Juliana? Hey, I heard we all 211 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: heard here on this podcast. Did you hear about a 212 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: possible coin flip? 213 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: Oh I heard about the coin flip. 214 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: I didn't hear any like confirmation about that. Yeah, if 215 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: there was a coin flip, I'm grateful for however, it all. 216 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: Turned off, I know, because you would have gotten the 217 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: right side of the coin, that's for sure. 218 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: I think in my mind it's like God's plan, Like 219 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: I think I felt so like looked after and grateful 220 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: for my experience I had. I had such a good 221 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: experience really because the whole time I was like I 222 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 4: didn't ever stress, like every real ceremony, I was like, 223 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: oh I'm good, no worries, and like, you know. 224 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm just there for a good time. 225 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: Like hey, you know, I like, I mean, like I 226 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 4: made so many amazing friends and like, you know, everyone 227 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 4: on the crew like product, Like I still like text 228 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: and like keep in touch with them. Like I had 229 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: such a great time, and then it was really just 230 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 4: only a bummer at the. 231 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: End, one bad moment. Yeah I got. 232 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: Food poisoning and then I got the rug pulled. But 233 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: really I think it was you know, protection, so. 234 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: A blessing, a true blessing in disguise. Do you have 235 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: any idea though, when like it would have flipped in 236 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: his head if it weren't for a coin flip. 237 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's probably around overnights, I would. 238 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: Guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking too. 239 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, if I had to guess when it would have been, 240 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: that's when. 241 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: I'm not remembering correctly. Were overnights a thing for you 242 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: with with your Mormon religion? Did you clarify that you 243 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: were not going to be sleeping with him in the 244 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: it's just sweet? 245 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: So so in my religion, we don't. 246 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's like most Christian religions, like 247 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 4: we are, I don't believe in premarital sex. 248 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: For me. 249 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 4: An added layer of that was that there are other 250 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: people involved, and like at a minimum, you know, I 251 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: don't want to like have anything like when I know 252 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: that we're not exclusive, you know, and not just that, 253 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 4: but like I know the other girls that are there, 254 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: and I'm friends with them, I love them, Like that's 255 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: so And if you're for me, like that's weird. 256 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 3: And if you're not, I. 257 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: Don't, you know, want to be like having that kind 258 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 4: of a night with my friend's fiance that she's getting engcourse. 259 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: You know, like that's just weird to me. 260 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: Even though I knew, you know, it was a part 261 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: of the process and that was coming. I had just 262 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: kind of decided before I came that that was just 263 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: like just not really how I wanted to spend that time. 264 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: Have you heard that Grant is right now very vocal 265 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: about his celibacy journey. 266 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: I did. I heard that. Yeah, good for him. 267 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: Anything else to elaborate on. 268 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: No power to him. Okay, yeah, good luck he. 269 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: He is. We thought interesting. It was interesting, like I'm 270 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: all about him actually talking about that publicly. But what 271 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: was interesting to us was that, like he said that 272 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: he has some credentials for being a dating expert because 273 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: he was the Bachelor. That's why he's doing a new 274 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: dating show. What do you think about having. 275 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to see his resume. 276 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well his show will come out soon and 277 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 2: we'll know further about how he deems himself an expert. 278 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the next week or so. I do 279 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: think it's like a YouTube show. I'm not one hundred 280 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: percent show. 281 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: Nice okay, good for him, Yeah, happy for him. 282 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: So we know that you Letia and Juliana do not 283 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: follow each other on Instagram? Was that? Oh? Was that 284 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: a real friendship to begin with? 285 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 4: So my friendship with Juliana was the same as like 286 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: my friendship with most of the girls. I think that 287 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: obviously you're closer to certain people because either you share 288 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: like a room with them, or you happen to be 289 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: on the same group dates as them, or you just 290 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: like naturally. 291 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: Are more drawn to other peoples. 292 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that for a lot of the time, 293 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: I think she kind of like isolated herself from the 294 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: group and so she was not really I would say, 295 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: close with as many of the girls until towards the end, 296 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,479 Speaker 4: like in Scotland, so like to me, like, I genuinely 297 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: like and I still do, like I care for Juliana. 298 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: I have love for her. 299 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: I want to see like her successful and happy, and 300 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: I think that I don't agree with some of her 301 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: choices and some of the things that she said there 302 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: at the end, but like, I still like I don't 303 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: have any ill will towards her, and I certainly don't 304 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: like hold anything against her. 305 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: I think she's doing the best she can. 306 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: So it was never like you guys were besties, no, Okay, Yeah. 307 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: I was very close to and Dina okay, and Zoe 308 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: and Alex and Natalie, and like I think those were 309 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: like my closer closer girls throughout filming. 310 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: Did you did you reach out at all after the breakup? 311 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh? 312 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Juliana and I facetimed like oh you did after yeah, 313 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: and it was like totally friendly until the end. It 314 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 4: was like news to me at the end that like 315 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: I was making up and I was, you know, she 316 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: took offense to things. There was an offense intended, but 317 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: that's how it was taken. 318 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: So so that was throughout the like the airing and 319 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: like before airing, before. 320 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: Airing, exchange text messages and yeah, up until honestly, like 321 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: I think maybe hometowns are overnights the week that those aired, okay, 322 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: like texting and okay and then checking in on each 323 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: other and yeah. 324 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: But then when the two of them broke up, Julana 325 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: and Grant, you didn't you didn't talk to her since then, 326 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: I haven't talked to her alrighty, so you are friends with. 327 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: That as well. Yeah, I wish her well. 328 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: Oh of course, of course, of course, yes, No, I 329 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: mean that makes total sense. If you guys stopped talking 330 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: long before their breakup, that wouldn't make any sense as 331 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: to why you would have talked afterward, unless you know 332 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: she wanted to be like, I'm jealous. I wish I 333 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: didn't have to go through that. 334 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: No, she doesn't even jealous. She's doing well, she's doing 335 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: She's doing just fine. 336 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, So our next bachelorette, Taylor Friggy Paul is 337 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: also Mormon, also lives in Utah. And uh, I remember 338 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: that there was some like spotting of you with some 339 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: of the Secret Wives ladies. 340 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 341 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: Were you filming an episode of the show. 342 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that there was filming going on. I'm 343 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: not like a cast member or anything. 344 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no. 345 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've maybe been around the set before. 346 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: I've been around. Yeah, I've been around okay while they're filmed. 347 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: So then do you know do you know Taylor? 348 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: I know Taylor. I've met Taylor a few times. I 349 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: really like her. I'm excited to watch her. I think 350 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: she is. 351 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: I mean, I was a fan of Secret Lives of 352 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: Mormon Wives, like before I ever met any of them, 353 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: and so like, I'm just like, I you know, they're 354 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 4: good at their job. Like I'm entertained that. So I'm 355 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm a fan of Taylor. I want to see her 356 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 4: win and I'm excited. 357 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: Is there any think that you think the audience should 358 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: know that Taylor should keep in mind when filming when 359 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: it comes to being more men. 360 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 4: One thing that I hope that maybe happened because I 361 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: was on in the season before, is I hope that 362 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: people are just a little bit more open minded that 363 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: I think there's like a lot of like cult talk, 364 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 4: and I will say, I want to shout out you 365 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: and Ben, and Ben especially because I think he knows 366 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 4: some people that are like active in my religion. And 367 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: I really appreciated how much grace and like, uh, open 368 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: mindedness and realness you guys talked about my religion and 369 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: specifically me with I think a lot of people. And 370 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: when I say a lot, it's like maybe there were 371 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: a few people, but it takes up a lot of 372 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: space in your brain, you. 373 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: Know when people say it. 374 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 375 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: But I think that there's like a misconception about my 376 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 4: religion that women especially are. It's really really strict for women, 377 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: and it's like very narrow own minded and conservative and traditional, 378 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: and I think that by the world standards and like 379 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 4: you know, everything else that's going on, it is conservative. 380 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 4: But we all definitely have our own agency and free 381 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: will to choose whatever we want. And like the biggest 382 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 4: thing about our religion is that we are taught is 383 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: that God loves you, and that like church and religion 384 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: and his love is for everyone. And so I think 385 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: that a lot of people view our choices as like, oh, 386 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: that must It's like our religion is very prescriptive, and 387 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 4: like she must be doing that because she thinks that 388 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: the men in her life or the you know, like 389 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: her church leaders are gonna come down on her. 390 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 3: For this, and it's like, no, Like, I live according to. 391 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: My religion standards because I actually believe that's the thing 392 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: that brings the most happiness and peace to my life. 393 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 4: And I haven't found anything else that brings that amount 394 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 4: of joy and peace to me. 395 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: So that's why it is. 396 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: The core tenant that I live my life by, not 397 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 4: because I'm scared of men or because I think that 398 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: I'm scared of what people will think. Like I do 399 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 4: things according to what I think will bring me the 400 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 4: most happiness. So I think I hope that. 401 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: That shows I hope much take. 402 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: That into account. I think Taylor. 403 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 4: I honestly really commend Taylor for everything that she has 404 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: like said about her relationship, because you know, none of 405 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 4: us are without like our regrets or mistakes, and I 406 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: think that she views forgiveness and be atonement in the 407 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: same way that I do. And it's just that it's 408 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: for everyone, and that's why it exists. It's because we're 409 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: not perfect and God wants us to be happy. So 410 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: I think that's how I hope that people view our 411 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 4: religion and us as women that are members of our religion. 412 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: Is just that we're doing the best we can and 413 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that we need to be perfect. We're 414 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 4: just you know, figuring it out just like everybody else. 415 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: I think she's going to demonstrate a lot of what 416 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: you just said, just based on me watching season one 417 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: of Housewife of you know, Mormon Wives. She's going to 418 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: do a good job doing that. Is it frustrating to 419 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: you guys that Mormons and Polygamis get lumped together and correctly? 420 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think, like it's just I think there 421 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: are misconceptions about any religion, you know, Like I think, yeah, 422 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: has like a whole thing that they probably wish wasn't 423 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: a part of their Like we all kind of have. 424 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: Like no one is perfect. Again, that's why. 425 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: You know, we believe in forgiveness and we subscribe to, 426 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: you know, the idea that you can do better and 427 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: learn and do better next time. But I think I 428 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 4: like Polygny doesn't resonate with me. I don't understand that part. 429 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: I'm with you, I don't know. 430 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: I don't get that part, But I know the parts 431 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: that really resonate with me, and those are the things 432 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: that I love my life by. 433 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: Poligamy's not one of them, though. That's that's for certain. 434 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm not And especially after the Bachelor experience, I don't 435 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: think I'm I don't think. 436 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: I don't think I've cut out for it. 437 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do they ever approach you to be 438 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: the bachelorette? I know that they kind of said that 439 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: there wasn't going to be a bachelorette after your season, 440 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: but lo and behold, it is actually what we got. 441 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I think saying like it's the same thing 442 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: every season, you know, like they kind of just put 443 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 4: feelers out and you go out for it and you 444 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 4: talk to you know, Rob and whoever. And but then 445 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 4: they fired all the producers. So I was like, oh, yeah, 446 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 4: doing the showing. 447 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: A bad time to be in contention to be the lead. Well, 448 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: you would be a fabulous lead, and we do hope 449 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 2: that you're on something in the future because you'd be 450 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 2: so so good you're just You're good at holding your 451 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: own and you're a good personality for this. You bring 452 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: a lot of goodness to the franchise, So I hope 453 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: that you're around. But before we move on to talk 454 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: more about present day, I do just want to talk 455 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: about your epic departure from the show. I mean maybe 456 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: maybe the most memorable departure I could think of, since 457 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: like a Switcheroo type season really big, right, yes, because 458 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: we were floored that it wasn't you it was and 459 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: you just are such like you just delivered the perfect 460 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: amount of bitchiness that the situation called for. The way 461 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: that you're just like called the come on now hilarious? 462 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: Did you cringe a little watching it back? 463 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you. 464 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 4: I love watching it back, like literally, like I was 465 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 4: not actually I was not well, like when I tell 466 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: you they gave me so much medicine because I had 467 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 4: food poisoning, like I was not. 468 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 3: They gave me so much medicine. 469 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 4: To make sure that I was like I didn't have anything, 470 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 4: Like I was okay, walk down and like and stand 471 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 4: there for that I blacked out, Like I really don't 472 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 4: like I like watching it because it's like I get 473 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: to be like a viewer and just be like because 474 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: I don't remember a ton and like I I don't 475 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 4: say that a lot in my normal life. I was 476 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 4: just like I think I was so exhausted and so 477 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 4: just like I think it was like most of what 478 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: you saw there was me just being like that's okay, 479 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: Like it doesn't have to be me, but like be 480 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: so for real right. 481 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: Now, like exactly. 482 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 4: Just literally level with me here, and like I was 483 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: just looking for traction, like just be a real person 484 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: and just like admit that, like you're going back on 485 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: what you said this whole time, that's totally fine, but 486 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 4: just like I like I want you to like just 487 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: say it, and he just like wouldn't and so I 488 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: was just like really like yeah, oh. 489 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: I would have were handled it the exact same way. 490 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: Maybe that's why I love it so much, Just like dude, 491 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: are you wait kidding me? Are you kidding me? Because 492 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: you never see that with people. You see them that 493 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: get like mad and sad but mostly quiet, and you're 494 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: so vocal, And I loved it so much. 495 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 4: When that conversation was so long, Ashley, like I like 496 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: we were sat there for probably forty five minutes, like 497 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: Paullie and ever like is like rushing us through. They're 498 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: like Grant, like you have to get in the car 499 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: like you had like okay, you guys gotta start walking now, 500 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: like you have to walk away. And he's like no, 501 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 4: like he was like getting mad. He was like no 502 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: a minute, like I have too much to say, and 503 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: like I think ultimately I think he just like didn't 504 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 4: want me to like be mad at him, Like he 505 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: just like didn't want it to like end on bad terms. 506 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: And I was just like, well, you should have thought 507 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: about that. 508 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 4: The entire time when you were saying all this stuff 509 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: like I'm sorry, there's just like not a world where 510 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 4: this ends well for you, like with and I like 511 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: I was just like after every yeah said, after all 512 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: of like the warnings and like how cautious I feel 513 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 4: like I've been for both of us, and you just 514 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: like barreled. 515 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: Past them every time. 516 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 4: There's not like this was gonna be bad, Like It's 517 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: not like and I didn't want it to be mean either, 518 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 4: Like I I hope it didn't come across in that way. 519 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: It wasn't mean though because of what he did, it 520 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: was deserving. 521 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: I was just like accountable, like yeah, just be accountable. 522 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: It can be done, but he just wouldn't do it. 523 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: So I was like, well, so basically he was trying 524 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: to keep you there for forty five five minutes, but 525 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: not at all admitting that like he said things that 526 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: he should have never said. 527 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, because he would be like, well do you think, 528 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: like do you think I've been misleading? And I was 529 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: like I literally I looked over to like the audio 530 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: people on the camera people, and I was like, shall 531 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: we run the tapes? 532 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: Like I don't have like I don't have. 533 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: The energy, and we don't have the time to like 534 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 4: really like express to you by. 535 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: Of course, like of course you've been misleading. 536 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: And I don't know how much of that is like 537 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 4: part of being the lead and how much of that 538 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: is because you thought it was me or you just 539 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 4: wanted me to like you or whatever it was. But 540 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: I was just like duh, like yeah, this is this 541 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 4: is not pleasant to your misfortune. 542 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: I would have loved to have the forty five minutes 543 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: aired because. 544 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: Oh I was just have them aired. 545 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: I would love to watch because I blacked out, Like 546 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: all I know is that like my like when I 547 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: got in the car and I was like, you know, 548 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: trying to like make sense of it. 549 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: She's like, I don't think. 550 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 4: They've ever let anyone have that much time for like 551 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: the breakup before, Like I think typically it's like a 552 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: I have to ten minutes, like they like to like 553 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: rush it through so that it can be like happy couple, 554 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: you know. But they let me have the time, and 555 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: he insisted on the time. 556 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: I would have thought, and it seemed like on TV 557 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: that he just wanted to get you out of there. 558 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wanted to get out, Like I 559 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 4: was like, I'm uncomfortable, like you think I want to 560 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 4: be in this trust right now, Like I was like 561 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: I want to lay down, I want to take a nap, 562 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: I want to go home, like I'm ready to get 563 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: out of here. 564 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: So after a moment like that, I'm assuming that you 565 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: just probably weren't very surprised when he and Juliana broke 566 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: up so shortly after the finale. 567 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I wasn't happy to see it, 568 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: like I think when we were. 569 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: Wanted it, because you know, like they were like each 570 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: other's match and all the rest of it. So I 571 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: was like sad to see it, not work out because 572 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: I was like, he for sure wanted it, So I 573 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: was like, well, I want him to be happy, but yeah, 574 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, like, I don't know who he is, 575 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 4: Like I I thought that I did while it aired, 576 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: and then that we've seen, like, you know, a different 577 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 4: persona online and so I think I wanted, you know, 578 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 4: to see him be happy and figure it out, and 579 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: he didn't. 580 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: So maybe his new social media content is that he 581 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: seems very very much interested in finding the one now 582 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: and I think that that a lot of people doubted 583 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: that desire about a year ago. And I don't really 584 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: know if I have a question about that, but just 585 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: a statement. 586 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't really see his stuff very often. 587 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: I did see. 588 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 4: The celibacy thing and cheering them on in that regard, 589 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: but I really don't know anything else. 590 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: Alrighty, Well, have you dated at all since? 591 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? I've dated a little bit here and there. 592 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: What's a date look like these days? It's been a 593 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: long time for me, Like, is it still sucks so bad? 594 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: It sucks so bad, Ashley. 595 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. 596 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: No, it's they're fine. They're fun. 597 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: There are good guys out there, and I think, like 598 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 4: I have definitely been on dates with good guys and 599 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: been on a date with a few duds. That's just 600 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: you know, the luck of the draw. That's how it goes. 601 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: But nothing to be jealous. 602 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: So okay, so no one out there of note right now? 603 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: There's a few of note I think, Oh okay, there 604 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: are until you know, you gotta keep hope. You know, 605 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: you gotta stay possible. 606 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: Okay, good, okay, great, all right, so there's some guys 607 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: that you're still talking to. Oh yeah, okay, great. Have 608 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: you been interested or ever DMed with anybody from Brachelination? 609 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 610 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: I think like friendly exchanges, but I haven't like been 611 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: on dates with anyone or like nothing romantic from anyone. 612 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: We thought you hung out with Alex, who is now 613 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: with Andrew. I just want to say that they're engaged 614 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: because they're so cute and I want them to be engaged. 615 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: I love them so much. 616 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: I love like, I truly like Alex is like my 617 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 4: little sister like I. We are so different, but we 618 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 4: are like bonded. I like, I don't know why, we 619 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: like text all the time, FaceTime every day, Like I 620 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: just I love Alex. 621 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: And when they came into town. I was like, like, 622 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: I really hope I like Andrew and I totally did. 623 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he's wonderful. They're just the most cute 624 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: thing in the entire world. She was one of the 625 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: people that I felt like very similarly towards you, like 626 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: like I felt about you, but I felt mostly with 627 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: that with Alex when she was on Paradise, Like I 628 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: loved watching Alex on Paradise. 629 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: Yes, no, I feel like she really got to shine 630 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: on Paradise. I loved watching her on that. I love 631 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 4: watching them and Bailey and Risa and Zoe and Aliciat 632 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 4: like all, Like I just we got so lucky with 633 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 4: the girls on our season, Like I really like, we 634 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 4: got so so lucky. There's we got so many good ones. 635 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: Would there have been anybody from Vaccination that you would 636 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: have put on your list if you had gone to Paradise? 637 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: I don't think. 638 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: So That's why I didn't go, because I was just 639 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 4: kind of okay, like who am I going? Like that 640 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 4: was like the conversations that I was having is I 641 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: was like, not to be mean, but like, I like, 642 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 4: there's not anyone that I'm like, ooh, like I really hope, 643 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 4: you know, what I mean. 644 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well so you're open to it for the future. Sure, yeah, okay, cool, 645 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: Just wasn't a good time? 646 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: All right? 647 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: Good? Well, I hope that this cass is full of 648 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: cute guys that you would like to date. 649 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: In Paradise the other day. No, they look great. 650 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them are from Utah. 651 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: I know. I saw there's actually a few. 652 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I'm glad that they did that. 653 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: But then you could probably just meet those guys whenever 654 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: they go home. 655 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: No, I think I have actually a few. 656 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: Oh really just before they went to go film. 657 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 4: No. No, like just from living in Utah for like 658 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 4: forever and ever and ever. 659 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: It's just small. It's a small Wow, Ashley, you should come. 660 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 3: You have to come out one time. 661 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: I've been to Salt like once, and I've been to 662 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: which the other place an hour away, the bougie place 663 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: Parks Yeah, yeah, park City. Both are so nice. Yep, 664 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, so nice. The air is like 665 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: crisp there. It just like tastes like fresh. 666 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: Is It's like it's cold and it's sharp. No. Yeah, 667 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: but it's it's a small, small place. 668 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts of these guys that you see. 669 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 3: There's a lot of cuties. Yeah. No, I'm excited for her. 670 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 4: I think, like I'm excited for her to kind of 671 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: like dip her toe in a fresh pool of different people, 672 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: kind of like outside of Utah, and I think. 673 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: It'll be good. Like I'm I'm so excited to watch. 674 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: So you're saying that you like feel like some of 675 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: those faces are familiar on the list, And my producer 676 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: and I were just speculating the other day that she 677 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: is going to have met some of these guys in 678 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: the past because of the small town vibes either. 679 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for sure. 680 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: I think there's no way with how many people are 681 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 4: from Utah in that cast that her path that their 682 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 4: paths haven't crossed before filming. 683 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I don't know. 684 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 4: And like that's on casting to see, you know, how 685 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 4: many mutuals they have and stuff like that. 686 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: So we'll see how good at digging they. 687 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 4: Did, because I think they like everybody to be pretty separate, 688 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: you know, like that it's like a pretty fresh thing. 689 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: So I'll be I'll be interested to see if she 690 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 3: knows any of them. 691 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: So you had a really cool ad over the summer 692 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: where your teas that you were getting married, but you 693 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 2: were actually walking down the frozen food aisle. Loved it. 694 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: It was perfectly teased. It really did make oh quite 695 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: many headlines. What are you working on these days? What 696 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: does life look like today? 697 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: Well? 698 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 3: I got banks, that's new. 699 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: Cool curtain banks. 700 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got a house. I love that. 701 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so great. 702 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, my life is pretty much the same as when 703 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: I loft, which I love. Like I have a good life, 704 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 4: but it's not I don't have a ton of new. 705 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: What are you doing for work? Is it mostly influencing. 706 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: Influencing right now? 707 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 4: Yep, I'm winding down on venture capital and just staying 708 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 4: open minded to see. 709 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: All right, well, good for you. Any plans for Halloween 710 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: before we let you go. 711 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, one of my friends is hosting a night and 712 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 4: we're being Disney princesses. 713 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: So we're dressing up on so cute. 714 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 2: Who are you going to be? 715 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: Jasmine? 716 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: Yay, the best one there is. Yeah, I have been 717 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: Jasmine for I can't even tell you how many halloweens. 718 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: No, you're literally you are Jasmine. 719 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that you are too, So somehow we 720 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: can both be really good Jasmins. 721 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: The Brunette like Olive Complexion, girl Small, She's from. 722 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: Okay, well Lytia. It has been such a pleasure talking 723 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: to you, and I can't wait to hopefully see you 724 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 2: on our TVs at some other point because you're You're 725 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 2: great and wow. I regardless of how you find it, 726 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: I just want you to find love because you are 727 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: some wifey material. 728 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 729 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 4: I just want to say to you and Ben for 730 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 4: having me on, but also because your podcast was one 731 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 4: of the few podcasts that was a safe space for 732 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 4: me to listen to in terms of recaph, so I 733 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 4: just want to say, like, as like someone that was 734 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 4: on the show, it's I love your takes. I'm sad, 735 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 4: I love I listened to like I still listen to it, 736 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 4: and I love you guys, and I'm so grateful for 737 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 4: you guys. 738 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: Latia, thank you. That's so sweet. The fact that you 739 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: even listened to a podcast while it was airing is scary. 740 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 4: It no, it was scary, but I like, consistently every 741 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 4: week it was a safe space and I loved hearing 742 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 4: your guys' opinions because you were always so kind and 743 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: like gave me so much grace and everyone so much grace. 744 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: So I just like, it's not easy in the reality 745 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 4: TV space to look at people as people, and you 746 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 4: both do such a good job. 747 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: So thank you so much, thank you so much. Ah 748 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: all right, well guys, until next time, I've been Ashley 749 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: and that has been Latia gar Bye. 750 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 751 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. 752 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 3: Yeah,