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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Shooler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on your twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and Gold. Fresh off of

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Speaker 2: bye week, but plenty to talk about. Matt, how we

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Speaker 2: uh you know, I know we've been saying this for

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Speaker 2: like the last two or three weeks, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: keep saying it in hopes that it's working. Another incredibly

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Speaker 2: unseasonably warm day here in West It's like a sucking

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Speaker 2: freeze outside and it's October sixth.

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Speaker 3: So Dale and I always had this running thing going

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Speaker 3: about the lantern or whatever they are out there, how

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Speaker 3: made you kill on the way in? They're still kicking, man.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like well into October now and I'm

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Speaker 3: like hot walking in the sun's beating on. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's lantern flies smush, you know. I mean it was

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Speaker 3: I thought the exact same thing, you know, the.

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Speaker 2: Last couple of weeks, I've been thinking to myself, I

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Speaker 2: better wear shorts again today, because who knows how many

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Speaker 2: more times I'm gonna get to wear shorts? Yea, you know,

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Speaker 2: until April. But yeah, unbelievable. The weather has been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It's almost too warm for this time of year, but

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Speaker 2: not complaining better than rain, better.

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Speaker 3: Than most days ago. I mean, like it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: My wife's been on me to cut the grass here.

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Speaker 2: You might have to do that maybe tomorrow morning before

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Speaker 2: we before we get back to work. But it was

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Speaker 2: a nice bye week, great weather here in western Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: in a happy Steelers fan base as the team sits

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Speaker 2: at three and one, and Matt, I don't think you

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Speaker 2: can say the same about the rest of the AFC North.

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Speaker 3: That's the topic of the day for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: It has to be. Yeah, you are sitting pretty as

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Speaker 2: pretty could be at this point for the first week

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Speaker 2: in October.

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Speaker 3: For the first week in October, and we should probably

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Speaker 3: talk about each team. And it's obviously we're gonna talk

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Speaker 3: about the Browns a lot all week, so I don't

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Speaker 3: want to look over them. You want to start there,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, because I think they're the best of the

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Speaker 2: Ooh.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm not trying to be spicy, but I mean,

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Speaker 3: like who would you rather play against right now? I

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Speaker 3: think the Browns are my last choice.

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Speaker 2: When you frame it that way, I think that's absolutely

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Speaker 2: a fair statement, Tam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually think they're doing some encouraging things, like

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Speaker 3: there's a little bit of optimism there, especially when compared

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Speaker 3: to preseason expectations for all three teams.

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Speaker 2: Which is a big which is a big key part

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Speaker 2: of of course. But I don't think that that's an

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Speaker 2: insane statement by you. In fact, now that I've had

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Speaker 2: you might be right. I would certainly rather play the

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Speaker 2: Bengals this weekend than the Browns.

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Speaker 3: I might rather play the Bengals than anybody in the league.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're getting to that point. I mean the

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Speaker 3: Ravens and Bengals look like they don't care, and at

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Speaker 2: Until Lamar's back, especially, you would fear that Ravens team

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Speaker 2: right now in the absence of him, plus all the

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Speaker 2: other injuries that they have. I think that's a completely

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Speaker 3: It's probably the best unit in the division. Nasty the

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Speaker 3: eight offense and defense, it's the best one. To me,

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Speaker 3: that's I mean the offense is near the bottom. Well,

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Speaker 3: those other two teams are bad at everything, terrible, right,

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Speaker 2: But they have a legit defense, and they have a

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Speaker 2: Because it's not the same. I don't think Cleveland's offensive

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Speaker 2: it was when Nick Chubb was running behind it to

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Speaker 3: Getting a lot on his own and schemed up and right. Well, again,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk so much Browns, but I really dug into

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Speaker 3: them today. Almost all his passes went the tight ends.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're very quarterback friendly scheme. But Judkins is

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Speaker 3: But that defense should keep them in a lot of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that defense has kept them in every game. It's

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Speaker 2: And again, even though that the record is not great

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Speaker 2: think that's fair to say that if you could pick

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Speaker 2: this weekend, yeah, it'd be the Bengals and the Ravens

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Speaker 3: And now I'm not accounting for the fatigue of coming

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Speaker 3: you're playing right this minute, you know, and like who

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Speaker 3: would I rather play this yesterday? You know wherever? And

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Speaker 3: the Browns would be my last choice of the three,

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Speaker 3: and which is amazing to say so big picture of

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Speaker 3: that was even before this past they went to GA

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Speaker 3: and now it's even stronger with Gabriel when the quarterback

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Speaker 3: played every snap and I thought he was fine. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he didn't have a big stat line, but he got

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Speaker 3: the ball obvious hands. He didn't look overwhelmed. It's not

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Speaker 3: easy defense to play again, so he was fine. And

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Speaker 3: I keep going back to the draft class you mentioned Judkins.

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Speaker 3: I mean he looks like a star. Yeah, fan and

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Speaker 3: have been really really good, uh Schweassinger, the off the

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Speaker 3: I destroyed their draft just because of the process and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, off in the lineman, you're building the nest, right,

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Speaker 3: Right? But the players they took most looked like hits,

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Speaker 3: if not all, So at least there's something to get

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Speaker 3: encouraged about if you're the Browns, like they haven't had

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Speaker 3: a good draft forever because of the Watson trade and

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Speaker 2: It certainly is and in the scope of expectations, yeah,

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Speaker 2: laid it out like that, they definitely should be feeling

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Speaker 2: speaking of Dylan Gabriel, real quick, I want to throw

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Speaker 2: this out for you. You want to hear a crazy.

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Speaker 3: Stat I have one for you too. It might be

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Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with the AFC North or the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But every Oklahoma starting I hear that from twenty fifteen

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Speaker 3: That is insane.

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts, Kyler Murray, Spencer Rattler, Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 3: Good for Oklahoma, although they didn't keep them all. But yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: They were the starter for Oklahoma in that stretch. That

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Speaker 2: is that is unbelievable. But yeah, Matt, that's come up.

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Speaker 3: I say this one's crazy too. I may even threw

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Speaker 3: it out there Friday, but Dylan Gabriel became the tenth

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback for the Browns since Baker Mayfield. Oh, ten

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Speaker 3: since Baker Mayfield. That didn't seem like that long ago.

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Speaker 2: No, it was what was it twenty eighteen that he

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Speaker 2: was drafted.

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Speaker 3: I want to say, yeah, I mean then they got

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Speaker 3: says been ten since they moved on from Baker who's

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Speaker 3: now lighting it up. And in the MVP conversation. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it and they went back and checked the Packers. The

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Speaker 2: Well, this is probably good.

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Speaker 3: Don Mkowski, who was like I was like ten years

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Speaker 3: you know, like that's insane.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good stat right, that is that is insane,

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Speaker 2: And hey might even get to eleven for Cleveland these Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe go to eleven. Yes, if we see if we

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Speaker 2: see shaudor at some point this season. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I think that's in astute line of logic by you

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Speaker 2: that that is probably the AFC North. Not an incredibly

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Speaker 2: high bar to clear, but that is probably the AFC

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Speaker 2: North team that you would least like to see this weekend.

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Speaker 3: All be playing better than the other two teams, all

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Speaker 2: The caveat of how they respond coming back from London

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Speaker 3: So, now I think about it, I think their defense

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Speaker 2: Almost just by process.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like the Steelers offense and defense are

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Speaker 2: The decision is terrible on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore is terrible on both sides of the ball, horrendous,

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Speaker 2: So that at least puts you in the top half right, right, right.

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Speaker 2: The toughest question is probably what's the fourth best unit in.

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Speaker 3: Guess the Brown's offense.

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Speaker 2: It's probably really bad too.

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Speaker 3: That right, that's really bad. Let's talk about one more

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Speaker 3: Browns status for it so great?

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Speaker 2: We got nothing but time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Mike Sando put this out on his weekly call

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Speaker 3: him a friend of mine, and he said that since

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Speaker 3: hiring Jim Schwartz their defensive coordinator twenty twenty three EPA,

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Speaker 3: they're number one on defense. Since Schwartz has been there,

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Speaker 3: that goes back to twenty twenty three to twenty four

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Speaker 2: He's a very good decording.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Garrett helps, and they've good players. Last in

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Speaker 3: offensio since hiring Schwartz, they're lasting offensive EPA, but first

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Speaker 2: I know I'm not the first person to say this,

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Speaker 2: especially in Cleveland, but man, if they would have just

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Speaker 2: kept Baker Mayfield the way they.

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Speaker 3: Might have ruined him, but at least a good point.

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Speaker 3: You didn't give up everything for Watson, and I mean

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Speaker 3: that's a catastrophic mistake.

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Speaker 2: You could have an extra first round lineman or two

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Speaker 2: on that team, an extra you know, first or second round,

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Speaker 2: like bonafide superstar skill position guy.

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Speaker 3: Right. Who oh, yeah, you're talking about big mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Big mistakes. Yeah, big mistakes. But looks like they're you know,

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Speaker 2: with the way they drafted this past year.

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Speaker 3: At least it picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could could have a top ten pick and

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Speaker 2: a top twenty pick in the first round.

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Speaker 3: They were bad to start the season. Lamar is not

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Speaker 2: If you think about it, since they lost the guy

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Speaker 3: we haven't talked about the Bengals. I can't write any

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Speaker 2: There's still the odds on AFC North betting favorites, right,

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Speaker 2: you said that, which is crazy. I think that's not

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Speaker 2: Was and their scheduled, they their schedule was front loaded.

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Speaker 3: They played a brutal stretch. Yeah, basically all playoff teams,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that first place schedule, and it was a lot

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Speaker 3: And they easily could have won the Buffalo game that

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Speaker 3: Probably. But if I'm the Ravens again, Ravens Nation Radio,

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Speaker 3: And both teams get to play the Bengals twice still, yes,

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Speaker 2: This to me is like it is. It's always tough

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Baltimore was, without a doubt. Even if you are

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Speaker 2: Didn't until you exactly Sometimes you never do exactly right.

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Speaker 3: just walking down the field.

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Speaker 2: You know, you think, when you've got Baltimore's injury report.

440
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Speaker 3: Right now, who do we turn to in the huddle?

441
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Speaker 3: There's nobody I trust. Stanley's out too, I mean, everybody's out.

442
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Speaker 3: So I did a podcast actually during like the downtime

443
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Speaker 3: a summer saying kind of comparing the Steelers and Ravens

444
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Speaker 3: in that Steeler fans at this point had never seen

445
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers play. We knew the narrative. You know, Steelers

446
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 3: are middling team. Yeah they got this winning record, but

447
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 3: when if you want a playoff game, We're sick of

448
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: the same thing. Year after year. Everyone's heard these things.

449
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: You know, Tomlin's only gonna get us so far, blah

450
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. And my podcast was your biggest rival.

451
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Speaker 3: The Ravens have had more or less the best quarterback

452
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Speaker 3: in the league over the last five years, and you've

453
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Speaker 3: had the worst, and they've been better during that stretch.

454
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Speaker 3: Anyone's to argue with that. They're insane. Even I know

455
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Speaker 3: the head to head.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, you know, that's the only the only Black

457
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Speaker 2: and Quiver would be head to head.

458
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Speaker 3: But who's the better football team?

459
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Speaker 2: Playoff wins?

460
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Speaker 3: They got better players during the Lamar era, They've been

461
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Speaker 3: the better team. I mean, clearly, but I really equated

462
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Speaker 3: two organizations of kind of being the same, and that

463
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Speaker 3: the fan bases.

464
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Speaker 2: Are really not good enough.

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Speaker 3: It's still frustrating because the Steelers are this tier of

466
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Speaker 3: over that five years or whatever, of got in the playoffs,

467
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Speaker 3: got beat really bad, went home. Ravens are in the

468
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Speaker 3: tier right above, like one game awesome, regular season high expectations.

469
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Speaker 3: Might have beat a team like the Steelers or a

470
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Speaker 3: wild card team and then can't go any further because

471
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Speaker 3: the year after year after year, and the fan base

472
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Speaker 3: immediately say fire Harbor, fire Tomlin, you know, and I

473
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Speaker 3: kind of get it, you know, like, can this guy

474
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Speaker 3: only take us so far? But in this case, for

475
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Speaker 3: Baltimore I'm really talking about, right, I mean, they're in

476
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Speaker 3: such an awful situation. Maybe make a defensive coordinator change,

477
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Speaker 3: you know. I mean I'm not saying you blow the

478
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Speaker 3: thing up. They're still dangerous as could be.

479
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Speaker 2: If they had one or two guys on IR and

480
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Speaker 2: these were still the results, then it doesn't make as

481
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Speaker 2: much sense, right. I think you could have Vince Lombardi

482
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Speaker 2: dipped in Bill Belichick and they would still be under

483
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Speaker 2: five hundred in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: I guess my point that I didn't express as well

485
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Speaker 3: as I wanted was everyone is so Steeler centric around here,

486
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Speaker 3: and you look at the Ravens there so much better.

487
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Speaker 3: But your brothers, you know from another mother over there,

488
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 3: are almost as frustrated as you guys as a fan base,

489
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Speaker 3: you know, and right this minute there, right the second.

490
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Speaker 3: More so, I'm talking about like in the offseason, you know,

491
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Speaker 3: like it's there's a lot going on, and winning playoff

492
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Speaker 3: games is really difficult. There's only thirteen wins every year

493
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Speaker 3: in a playoff wins, you know, you don't get many

494
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Speaker 3: of them. So I don't know. I mean, the Ravens,

495
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Speaker 3: to me, at least could get their doors blown off

496
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Speaker 3: against the rams By sure come back and look like

497
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Speaker 3: the Ravens, but the lines of scrimmage aren't good and

498
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Speaker 3: they're not even using like Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 2: It's what you get. You get Lamar and rokuon back,

500
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Speaker 2: and that will obviously help their fantastic Yeah yeah, but

501
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Speaker 2: like that might be like slapping a band aid on

502
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Speaker 2: a shotgun wound at this point. Yeah, right, right, got

503
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Speaker 2: so many issues.

504
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Speaker 3: And then there's just the math of it, you know,

505
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Speaker 3: like can you win enough games to actually beat a

506
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Speaker 3: wild card team like Denver or Indy or Houston that

507
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Speaker 3: you lost head to head to Steelers or whoever? I mean,

508
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Speaker 3: win division might be their only shot. Who it's uhs

509
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Speaker 3: are just worse on all.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do this worse organization everything beefy first segment

511
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Speaker 2: here to get started. Let's come back and we'll focus

512
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Speaker 2: on the Bengals and do some more around the league stuff.

513
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Speaker 2: We'll use that to kind of close down the first

514
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Speaker 2: hour of the show here. Over our next two segments,

515
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to our buddy Rob King in the second

516
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Speaker 2: hour of the program. Plenty to get to here coming

517
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Speaker 2: out of the bye week for the Steelers, sitting pretty

518
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Speaker 2: in black and Goldland, that's for sure, West Yuler, Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: it's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network.

521
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Speaker 1: Your teams about Drive on your twenty four to seven

522
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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

523
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Speaker 2: Going around the AFC North, around the league here. As

524
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Speaker 2: the calendar is in October, the Steelers bye week is

525
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Speaker 2: behind them. A couple games in quick succession here. That'll

526
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Speaker 2: start happening rapidly, quickly. Yeah, and we will obviously spend

527
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Speaker 2: plenty of time on those Cleveland Browns as the week

528
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Speaker 2: rolls along. But Matt, let's stay in Ohio to kind

529
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Speaker 2: of wrap up some AFC North thoughts here to begin

530
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Speaker 2: the show today, Cincinnati Bengals are I mean, you want

531
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Speaker 2: to talk about rough times in Baltimore. Certainly, absolutely when

532
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Speaker 2: you compare them to expectations going into the season. But

533
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati had some high expectations of bouncing back this year too. Yes, Okay,

534
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Speaker 2: we're nine to eight last year with the worst defense

535
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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

536
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Speaker 3: Strong.

537
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Speaker 2: If we can at least have the seventeenth or eighteenth

538
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Speaker 2: or nineteenth best defense in the NFL, that's a team

539
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Speaker 2: that can win ten games and go to the playoffs,

540
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Speaker 2: you lose Joe Burrow early on, not just for a

541
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but for three months, which is obviously

542
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Speaker 2: a disaster. That defense might be worse than it was

543
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Speaker 2: last year. I mean, they are pretty miserable. I think

544
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Speaker 2: it's time for them now, Like you would floated the

545
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Speaker 2: idea a couple weeks ago of like, hey, trade a

546
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Speaker 2: Day three pick for Russell Wilson and see if you

547
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Speaker 2: can stay afloat that ship sailed.

548
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Speaker 3: I mean two weeks ago.

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now it's like, let's sell and reset and start

550
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Speaker 2: focusing on twenty twenty six.

551
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like like big picture through a Steeler's lens, where

552
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Speaker 3: obviously a Steelers show. I still greatly fear the Ravens. Yeah,

553
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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I'm talking about for the next two, three,

554
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Speaker 3: four years now. Burrow's scary. I mean, but the Bengals

555
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: are in a bad place big picture to me. I mean,

556
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Speaker 3: I think they're not a strong organization. I don't think

557
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Speaker 3: they're greatly coached. I think they have some star power,

558
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Speaker 3: and I have a feeling those stars aren't gonna be

559
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Speaker 3: real thrilled with their situation much longer if they are

560
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Speaker 3: at all. So like that game yesterday. Hendrickson made some

561
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Speaker 3: plays early, Chase made some plays late against prevents and

562
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: things like that when it was done, but you saw

563
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Speaker 3: some star power with those guys. Higgins is still a

564
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Speaker 3: really good player. But the nuts and bolts of the

565
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: team are pretty poor. I mean, they're both their lines

566
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Speaker 3: are worse than the Ravens. To me, I'd rather rebuild

567
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Speaker 3: the Ravens lines than they're both their lines. And you know,

568
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Speaker 3: that's where it all starts. And this makes me crazy

569
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Speaker 3: from a Bengals perspective, is instead of really being aggressive

570
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Speaker 3: on defense this offseason, getting a lot of new pieces,

571
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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, they drafted a defensive end, but they

572
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Speaker 3: didn't they kind of running back the same players from

573
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Speaker 3: one of the worst defenses in the league. We're just

574
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Speaker 3: gonna blame the coordinator. You know, we're gonna fire Amarumo

575
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Speaker 3: and we're gonna hire the Notre Dame dude. Well, that

576
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Speaker 3: seemed suspect logic at the time, considering amroom most history.

577
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Speaker 3: That's what I say. And now in hindsight, he takes

578
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Speaker 3: the most vanilla defense in the league that was well

579
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Speaker 3: below average, and now they're way above average with basically

580
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Speaker 3: the same pieces too. Like I think we knew what

581
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Speaker 3: the problem was. They good enough players on defense, and

582
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Speaker 3: they just totally misevaluated that as an organization, which makes

583
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Speaker 3: you wonder because it's that's not a hard evaluation to make,

584
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Speaker 3: you know, that's not like should we signed to Higgins

585
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Speaker 3: or not. I understand both sides.

586
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Speaker 2: If you're John Taffer and you're doing the bar rescue

587
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Speaker 2: thing and you walk into that messy bar, that's pretty

588
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Speaker 2: easy to die.

589
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Speaker 3: Fridge, right, theude line is bad. I mean even drafting

590
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: defensive ends like crazy, you know, like go one, good

591
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Speaker 3: one and he's unhappy. So I think they're really miserable

592
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Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball.

593
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Speaker 2: Now.

594
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Speaker 3: I mean we were talking off the air. Browning's way

595
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Speaker 3: worse than he looked his first state. I mean, the

596
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: league knows what to do to him, come after him,

597
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Speaker 3: and he's gonna panic, and the line doesn't help. They

598
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Speaker 3: got no running game. Chase is still a stud, Higgins

599
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: is still a stud. But I'm not saying they're dogging it,

600
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Speaker 3: but they're they can't take over game. I mean they

601
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Speaker 3: do a lot of this when the ball gets flying

602
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Speaker 3: over their heads. You know, like you can't be receiver

603
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Speaker 3: dependent without any way to give them the football. I

604
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: would worry big picture about that team because I think

605
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Speaker 3: it's now to the point where you trade Hendrickson.

606
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Speaker 2: Oh you have to.

607
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Speaker 3: You have to.

608
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Speaker 2: Now he's not going to be on the team next year, right,

609
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Speaker 2: so you have to trade him now you have to

610
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Speaker 2: get something.

611
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Speaker 3: The Lions would give you whatever you want for me,

612
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. There's a lot of teams

613
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Speaker 3: out there. Take them off your hands, at least do that.

614
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Speaker 3: What's nuts is you mentioned the draft picks. It's like

615
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Speaker 3: never happens in our life. Could the the Browns up

616
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Speaker 3: to first raven everyone else has one? Could the Steelers,

617
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Speaker 3: say the Steelers pick twenty five, they win a playoff game.

618
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Speaker 3: Could the Ravens be picking twelfth. The Bengals are picking fourth.

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Speaker 2: There's our quarterback, there's Fernando Mendozo, Dante more Baby, there's

620
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Speaker 2: our guy.

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Speaker 3: And the Browns have like the eighth and twelfth pick.

622
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Speaker 3: Like that absolutely could be how this all shakes out.

623
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Speaker 3: One said, yeah, it's leaning that way in a big way,

624
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Speaker 3: like Todd mcshade did it once. Someone did a mock draft,

625
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Speaker 3: you know, just based off records, and the Ravens right

626
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: now are picking like fifth, no, in neither sincey right, Still,

627
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Speaker 3: I mean we could even do that this week. I

628
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Speaker 3: might do a podcast today just going through the league

629
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Speaker 3: of who is now in the quarterback market and who isn't.

630
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Speaker 3: Those two teams aren't. But still, I mean, how often

631
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Speaker 3: does teams in the division pick that early?

632
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Speaker 2: I mean, it could be teams, teams not the Cleveland Browns.

633
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Speaker 3: Right right, the Browns always do.

634
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Speaker 2: But I could still pick that, or you could have

635
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Speaker 2: you could have three of the AFC North teams picking

636
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Speaker 2: in the top twelve.

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Speaker 3: That Jacksonville pick looks like the best pick of the

638
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Speaker 3: four that the other three teams are going to have, right,

639
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like they could have three

640
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Speaker 3: top ten picks absolutely easily could very I mean, I'd

641
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Speaker 3: say that's not crazy at all.

642
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Speaker 2: No, it is not. It's certainly not. And I again

643
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Speaker 2: I think Cleveland that wouldn't have surprised us ad into

644
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Speaker 2: the show now, but the other was expected the other

645
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: two completely different story. Yeah, that to me, like it's

646
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Speaker 2: it's time for Cincinnati to start thinking about how they

647
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Speaker 2: keep Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow happy in twenty twenty

648
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Speaker 2: six and beyond.

649
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Speaker 3: It just reminds me of like Carson Palmer, and I

650
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: know a lot of people are a little young for that,

651
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Speaker 3: but he just got fed up with the organization. I

652
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: won't play football anymore if I have to play for you.

653
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean, like it gets to that point, like I'm

654
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Speaker 3: too competitive, I'm in my prime and what you guys

655
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Speaker 3: do as an organization, the way you run doesn't let

656
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Speaker 3: me get to my goal of winning football games. I

657
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: can only do so much and then I just keep

658
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: getting hurt.

659
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: And that was almost twenty years ago, yeah, right, right,

660
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: right right, and it's still the same, still the same, right,

661
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: And I think when.

662
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: And they kind of lucked into Burrow and Chase, sure,

663
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: you know, right right right.

664
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Speaker 2: First first overall pick and third overall pick, I think

665
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: for Jamar Chase.

666
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: And top five yeah, him and Sewul you know.

667
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: And man, I remember Carson Palmer got a lot of

668
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: blowback for that.

669
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: How could you possibly do that?

670
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: Right now?

671
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: I think it's a little more accepted now, but right then,

672
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: but he was right.

673
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: He was absolutely right. Yeah, And I think people would

674
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: look at it the same if Burrow and Chase wanted

675
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Speaker 2: to go that route. I don't think there would be

676
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: as much vitriol towards them from that fan base, it

677
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: would be more towards the top of the organization, yeah,

678
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: than the than the guys that are on the team.

679
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I listen, it's it's been rough for Baltimore,

680
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: but at least again there's some rhyme to that reason.

681
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: I still think they're an elite organization too.

682
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: And I trust, like you said, for the next four

683
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: or five years, right, if you made me bet right now,

684
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: does Baltimore win a playoff game in the next four

685
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: or five years, I would say yes, Oh yeah, yeah.

686
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: Just Cincinnati won a playoff game in the next four

687
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: or five years, I would say no.

688
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: Same with the Browns.

689
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: Same with the Browns, and they have to.

690
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: Things have to go drastically better. I mean, there's there's

691
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: such a historically losing organization too.

692
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Maybe that's cheating a little bit, yeah.

693
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: But I mean we did say some good things. Boy,

694
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: I like their rookie class, and maybe there is a

695
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: little bit of optimism within the organization, but it's to

696
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: get to seven or eight wins. I mean, you're still

697
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: a long way away from you know, contending or having

698
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: a quarterback. And they got to rebuild an entire offensive

699
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: line like four or four of their five starters or

700
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: free agents have the year and the offensive line, right

701
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: you know, so okay, you know, but in a way,

702
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: if the Ravens end up with like the sixth pick

703
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: in the draft, that's terrifying.

704
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: It's just say that could be the one silver lining

705
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: for Baltimore, right, is like.

706
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: They get the best edge rusher in the draft or something, Yes,

707
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 3: bame from Miami or whatever.

708
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: Or something right right right, it's like.

709
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: Uh, that one down year might have and.

710
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: Then like early second round they get a stud running back.

711
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: You know, there's two stars, you know, like.

712
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: They picked like the next Judkins that picked thirty seven

713
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: or thirty eight or something.

714
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: They're not going to take Manzell or you know Richardson.

715
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to screw it up.

716
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: Kellen Winslow junior right with that pick.

717
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: Those guys will screw it up. But the Ravens, you

718
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: give them that gift that could be. I mean, we're

719
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: way getting ahead of ourselves still. It's the way the

720
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: driven division's trending right now.

721
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Speaker 2: I want to take one more break here in this

722
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: first hour. When we return, I got a question for you, okay,

723
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: and give them to tell it to you now, so

724
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: so you and the audience have a minute to let

725
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: it marry before we come back. How many teams in

726
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: the AFC right now would you say are clear cut

727
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: one hundred percent definitively better than the Pittsburgh Steelers.

728
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 3: It's talk funny. I didn't know you're gonna ask me

729
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: that we did not pre record this or anything, and

730
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: I will answer on the other side, I thought about

731
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: the same thing as I was recording Peacock and Williamson today.

732
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: You know, because Coltstnverord, some of these other teams are

733
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: really interesting, right right, I mean, so these teams are

734
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: pretty interesting right now.

735
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Speaker 2: Definitively like one hundred percent would be favored over the

736
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: Steelers by a decent margin on a neutral field. You

737
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: might be able to count them on one hand. Let's do

738
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: that exercise when we come back.

739
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: I got a change in the tides right now. It

740
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: really is, Yeah, it.

741
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: Really isn't who thought the Colts would be in this conversation,

742
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: but maybe they are. We'll wrap up the first hour

743
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Speaker 2: of the show going there when we return. Why Shooler,

744
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the

745
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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.

746
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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

747
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio.

748
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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the first hour, we will have

749
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Speaker 2: the voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King with us

750
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Speaker 2: to begin our number two. Before we get to the Kinger,

751
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: Matt Williams. Some simple question that I posed to you

752
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: and the audience before we went to break. How many

753
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: teams right now in the AFC are definitively that's the keyword,

754
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: better than the Pittsburgh Steelers.

755
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: All right, this is kind of buzz all these conversations.

756
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 3: You'll notice I just go division by division, you know, yeah,

757
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: so start in the East.

758
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: The Bills are yes, yes, I think so.

759
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: They stumbled, they made more mistakes than usual.

760
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: Defense isn't great.

761
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: I don't love the defense.

762
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: I think they're.

763
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: Very Josh Allen in an awesome offense. They're better than

764
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: the Steelers. I'm not going to give you the Patriots,

765
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: but they're out kicking my expectations for them for sure,

766
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: even before last night. But last night was really good.

767
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 3: And you know, a Drake may.

768
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: Fan, it's nice to see.

769
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh that was huge. But I want to I brought

770
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: this up while I was getting coffee too, because I

771
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: knew their upcoming schedule was really easy. How about this

772
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: They played the Saints next week, then the Titans, then

773
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: the Browns, and then the Jets. I think, my friend.

774
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: Screwy, but that should be three or four wins.

775
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they could absolutely go on a hot streak.

776
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that they're better than the Steelers, but

777
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: they could gain a lot of momentum, like in power

778
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: ranks and that type of thing that don't really matter.

779
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: But you know, nobody else, no, no, nobody.

780
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: In the North, nobody in the division, right.

781
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: No, Ravens are highly capable. We've talked to no end

782
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: of getting back to where they are, but they're far

783
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: from it now. Colts, Yes, it's hard to argue.

784
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: I mean they're.

785
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: Real close to being undefeated.

786
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like other than the Broncos. I mean they're

787
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: like beating everybody down.

788
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and smashing teams. Yeah, it's incredible, they really are.

789
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say yes on the Colts.

790
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 2: That's two.

791
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: Jacksonville we can talk about tomorrow. I think they have

792
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: a chance to be I'm impressed with where they're at,

793
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: but I would definitely lean towards no.

794
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: Right this again like defense, like they would be favored

795
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: over the Steelers on a neutral field.

796
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna say no, but they could surprise us tonight,

797
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: and I think that they're trending the right direction as.

798
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: An excited for that Monday night football game. Yeah, before

799
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: we get out of.

800
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Speaker 3: Here, I can't go Houston, but I think they've turned

801
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: a corner. I mean, they're definitely how I was thinking

802
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: about it today on my podcast was boy, there's a

803
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: lot of AFC teams, including the Steelers, that are all

804
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: in this tier that aren't quite Bill's Ravens where we

805
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: thought they were, but they're pretty impressive and they're I'm

806
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: pretty firm that they're good teams. Yes you know what

807
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean.

808
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: Or not, But there's a lot of good teams.

809
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of these teams I'm starting to trust,

810
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: like the Colts, maybe the Jags, I'm not sure yet,

811
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 3: starting to trust Houston that they're gonna be in the mix.

812
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: That defense is legit, and I've always been a Stroud fan.

813
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be in them.

814
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: Their defense is given up like twenty points less than

815
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: the next lowest scoring defense in the it's crazy.

816
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Okay, definitely not Tennessee obviously. So there's three contenders in

817
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: that division. Colts, I would say, are the strongest. I

818
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: think the Chiefs are better than Steelers.

819
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: I think you got to give them some, yeah, some

820
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. I know they started zero and two,

821
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: but they've rebounded nicely. Yeah, tonight will be a big tell, though.

822
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: I mean, if they get blown out tonight, maybe I'll

823
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: change my tune. But I don't foresee that happening.

824
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: Like last week, we would have probably said the Chargers

825
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about Now.

826
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Speaker 3: They're a no to me. Yeah, I think that everything,

827
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: and I feel bad for them in a way, like

828
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: it's just injury and Herbert's getting crushed. So they're a no.

829
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: Where I would have said yes two weeks ago, for sure, absolutely,

830
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 3: Then the alt injury, and then I mean Herbert's under

831
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: pressure every drop.

832
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: Back, nause he's done maps banged up.

833
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, say something happened him late in the game. Defense

834
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 3: was not impressive, So they're a no to me. Denver's

835
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: a definitive yes. And the Raiders are one of the

836
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: most miserable teams in the league. Good lord, I mean

837
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: I didn't think they'd be this better.

838
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: I think they might be the most surprising team.

839
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: Terrible.

840
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: Them and the Colts are probably the two most surprising

841
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: teams in the NFL for opposite reasons. Yeah, I don't

842
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: think many people were picking the Raiders to go to

843
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs, but I don't think a lot of people

844
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: thought they'd be one and four and it would look

845
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: like this.

846
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: Yes, so I would say there's three or four that

847
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: are definitively better.

848
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: Than That's about right on one hand.

849
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we do Colts, Chiefs, Broncos, Bills, and I

850
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: think the Steelers are ahead of the Patriots and Jags,

851
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: but I'm opening the idea that they're improving. Houston's not

852
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 3: sleeping giant, but they're a sleeping big person, big scary dude,

853
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: but not quite a giant. And I think the Chargers

854
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: season could be spiraling quickly. Yeah, you know, this could

855
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 3: be the beginning of the end.

856
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: And this is another one of those I know you

857
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: and I repeated this at nauseum the first couple of

858
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: weeks of the season. But like, you don't want to

859
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: be the best team in September.

860
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: No, right, that's lovely. It's fun to talk about the time.

861
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: Great, yeah, right, and the Chargers were flying as high

862
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: as possible after the first three weeks of the season,

863
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: three and oh, all three of those division wins, Herbert

864
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: for MVP, Herbert for MVP. Even you and I were

865
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: saying like he might be entering that unicorn territory with

866
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: still is.

867
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: It's just nobody's helping him anymore.

868
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: You lose both your tackles, you lose both of your

869
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: running backs, your defense is okay, yeah, and all of

870
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: a sudden you go from three and oh and on

871
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: top of the world to back down to Earth and

872
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: three and two.

873
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: They seem to lose an offensive lineman every week. And

874
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: that's just it's I can't speak enough about offensive.

875
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: It's a tough way to live in this league, particularly

876
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: where I know you do a good job of outlining

877
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: this a lot, but like everybody in the league needs

878
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: offensive line help. Even the team with the best offensive lines, yeah,

879
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: would like an extra piece or two. You lose two

880
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: of the top ten, top twelve tackles in the NFL.

881
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: That's gonna be almost impossible to overcome.

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00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: Like the Cardinals could use a running back, well, they

883
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: could get one. Chargers need to tackle you can't get one.

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00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: You're not gonna get one.

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00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: Cardinals could use a running back that holds onto the

886
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: ball into the end zone. That was an unbelievable game, right,

887
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: that touchdown for Tennessee off the interception for dam It's

888
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: one of the craziest things ever.

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Speaker 3: So three or four plays in that one. I mean

890
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Speaker 3: there was even a snap that Kyler didn't know it

891
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: was coming that hit him in the face mask, that

892
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: almost knocked him over. Like this is just like Laurel

893
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: and Hardiers. This was the stooges.

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00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: That game belonged on the You know how every once

895
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: in a while they do, like the Nickelodeon broadcast.

896
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, which getlim or whatever. Yeah, that was people.

897
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: Getting slimed and SpongeBob popping out of the turf or

898
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: something like that.

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Speaker 3: And that's how the Titans get their first win.

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00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: That is how the Titans get their first win. I'll

901
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: tell you what. Though cam Ward continues to look like

902
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: a guy who he might be long for this league,

903
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: he certainly could be. Uh, let's take a break here.

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Speaker 2: First hour in the books, Another hour to go, I

905
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: do want to do. We're gonna talk to our buddy

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00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: Rob King on the other side, Matt, and then maybe

907
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: after King or we can just kind of do a

908
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: whip around the NFL like we've touched on some of

909
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: these games.

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a wild week across the league.

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00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: At Denver Philly was interesting. Uh first or sorry, only

912
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: the let me make sure I get this right. Wrote

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00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: this down only the fourth time in the Super Bowl

914
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 2: era that there are zero undefeated teams after Week five.

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00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see that.

916
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: A lot of parody in this league. Congratulations to the

917
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Speaker 2: seventy two Miami Dolphins. They pop the bubbly as well.

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Speaker 2: I've also got some Steelers Steelers back to practice today

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00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: for the first time since Dublin. Uh, and some good

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00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: news coming out of practice that will get to a

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00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: number two as well. So plenty more to go halfway

922
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Speaker 2: home here on the drive, Wes Shuoler, Matt Williamson, Rob

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Speaker 2: King on the other side, Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.