WEBVTT - Watkins, Q, and a Great Deception 

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On is the world's largest online political conspiracy movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Followers believe someone code named Q is provided them with

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<v Speaker 1>secret information from inside the White House. No one really

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<v Speaker 1>knows the real identity of Q, though we aim to

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<v Speaker 1>change that. I'm Jake Hanrahan and this is Q Clearance

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<v Speaker 1>podcast series aimed unmasking the true identity of Q. This

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<v Speaker 1>is brought to you by i R Radio QU Data Media.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, will be taking a look at the

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<v Speaker 1>infamous Watkins family and their deep connections to Q and On. First, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take a look at some recent Q drops.

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<v Speaker 1>These ones are specifically relevant, I think, as they come

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<v Speaker 1>at a point of huge post election turmoil within the

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<v Speaker 1>Q and on community. As we mentioned in the last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>So after nine days of silence in which Q and

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<v Speaker 1>on has made up new theories, lost faith, and turn

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<v Speaker 1>up to a voting center with a rifle, Q posted

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<v Speaker 1>his first post Biden victory drops on November twelve. The

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<v Speaker 1>first was just a graphic of an American flag and

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<v Speaker 1>the message nothing can stop what is coming nothing Q.

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<v Speaker 1>The second was a little bit more detailed, though it

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<v Speaker 1>reads as so quote, shall we play a game? Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>can stop what is coming, and then he's showing the

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<v Speaker 1>abbreviation of ncs W I C means nothing can stop

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<v Speaker 1>what's coming. There's a link to the CSA dot gov website,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he says who stepped down today? Forced he's

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<v Speaker 1>referring to Brian s where there's a link to the

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<v Speaker 1>CISA website. There then he says more coming. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>this relevant? How do you show the public the truth?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you safeguard U S elections post potus? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you remove foreign interference and corruption and install US

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<v Speaker 1>owned voter I D laws and other safeguards. It had

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<v Speaker 1>to be this way. Sometimes you must walk through the

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<v Speaker 1>darkness before you see the light. Q end quote. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go into what all of this

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<v Speaker 1>is alluding to, because frankly, it's just a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of nonsense as usual. But basically Q

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<v Speaker 1>is now trying to form a new narrative that this

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<v Speaker 1>was all part of the plan Biden was meant to

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<v Speaker 1>win and everything is going smoothly. He's basically mirroring what

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<v Speaker 1>the most hardcore Q supporters have been saying in the

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<v Speaker 1>nine days of silence before these drops on November there

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<v Speaker 1>was another drop that simply read Durham. Q. Durham presumably

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<v Speaker 1>refers to a Justice Department lawyer named John Durham mcguy

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<v Speaker 1>with a big kind of niets a look in mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been looking into possible corruption within the Clinton Foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm guessing here that Q is trying to insinuate

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<v Speaker 1>that Durham will be investigating the election results or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this point it all feels like whoever is

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<v Speaker 1>behind Q and On is just playing for time. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like they don't quite know what their next

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<v Speaker 1>move is. As I said in the previous episode, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the Q and On the universe was sure Trump

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<v Speaker 1>would win the election. Now it's Biden. Q can't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>keep the hopes going for four more years, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's not quite sure what to do. This brings

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<v Speaker 1>us back to the Watkins family, the people currently running

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<v Speaker 1>eight con where Q posts all his drops. As you'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably remember, the Watkins name has cropped up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in the last five episodes of Q Clearance. I've resisted

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<v Speaker 1>diving straight into who they are so we could set

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<v Speaker 1>the seed and get a grip on the Q and

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<v Speaker 1>On extended universe. Now, though, it's time to look into

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<v Speaker 1>who this family actually is. To do this, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to start with Jim Watkins. Like I said, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>current owner of a Kun and the former owner of

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<v Speaker 1>a Chan before it was shut down. As we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>h N was eventually pulled offline by its service providers,

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<v Speaker 1>at which point Jim Watkins and his son Ron Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>started Akun, which is essentially a clone of h H

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<v Speaker 1>and Akun became and is currently still the place where

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<v Speaker 1>Q posts his drops. Just want to repeat that as

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of strange names going about, just

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<v Speaker 1>to help you remember what's going on now. I've tried

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<v Speaker 1>many times to reach out to the Watkins family. They

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<v Speaker 1>ignored me each time until recently. I waited for Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins to go on a live stream on his YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>channel where he reads out messages from the Bible and

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<v Speaker 1>speaks about right wing US politics, all of that strange guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked him that he come on and speak to

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<v Speaker 1>us hit at Q Clearance because I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to ask him about his role within Q and on. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>on this YouTube live stream, he replied telling me that

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't speak to people at Viace News. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>worked for Virus News for three years, and I'm quite

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he knows that I am an independent journalist

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<v Speaker 1>running my own platform, Popular Front. I explained this to Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>but he ignored me, and within about two minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>this exchange between me and Jim, he ended his live

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<v Speaker 1>stream on his YouTube channel. I guess he just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk. Anyway, We'll look into it from the

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of doing the research without even speaking to him.

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<v Speaker 1>We tried to give him a go, he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to speak tough. Look, so who is Jim Watkins. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be answering this question using research which I gathered from

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<v Speaker 1>work by many different writers and journalists, including Travis Review,

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel E. Greenspan, Jovis Littleton, Ethan Chill, and many more.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to do your own research after this. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're still interested, I suggest checking out the work of

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<v Speaker 1>those people I mentioned. Anyway, let's begin, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Watkins is a fifty seven year old pig farmer

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<v Speaker 1>who currently lives in the Philippines. He looks after the

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<v Speaker 1>pigs whilst running a coun with his son, Ron Watkins,

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<v Speaker 1>better known online by his moniker code Monkey. Ron recently

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to have quit a coun on November three, But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get more into Roun later. So Jim Jim Watkins.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born in ninety three and grew up mostly

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington State. Aged eighteen, he joined the US Army

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<v Speaker 1>as a helicopter mechanic. Later he'd become a recruiter and

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<v Speaker 1>was eventually sent by the Army to Virginia to learn

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<v Speaker 1>computing in nine seven. This started a life online for

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Watkins. While still in the Army, he'd go on

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<v Speaker 1>to launch some of the first porn websites. One now

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<v Speaker 1>defunct site that he still owns the domain for was

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<v Speaker 1>the Asian Bikini Bar. Jim began making money online via

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<v Speaker 1>pawn He left the Army in to seize his opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>amidst the boom of the dot com bubble that of

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<v Speaker 1>course burst, which led Jim to relocate to the Philippines

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one. According to immigration records there,

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines is a place that's cheap to live, but

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<v Speaker 1>also has a well established seed year side that would

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<v Speaker 1>accommodate Jim's well documented over obsession with sex. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something Frederick Brennan, the former founder of h N noticed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot when he met Jim and began working for him.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in the Philippines working with Watkins, I

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<v Speaker 1>have never in my life before or since, met a

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<v Speaker 1>man who has a higher sex drive, never like he.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just on his mind every every frigging minute.

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<v Speaker 1>He cannot he can't help himself. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never met a man who sheets on their wives

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<v Speaker 1>and doesn't feel bad about it and gets mad if

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<v Speaker 1>their wife even complains about it. We mentioned it in

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<v Speaker 1>a previous episode, But Frederick Brennan met Jim Watkins because

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins made a move to take over h N in October.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when the Watkins family really began to become

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<v Speaker 1>known on the darkest parts of the Internet. Now, Brennan

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<v Speaker 1>was struggling with the server costs of running the increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>popular h and so Jim Watkins began to take over

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<v Speaker 1>after his programmer's son, Ron Watkins, apparently brought the site

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<v Speaker 1>to his attention. Brennan explains, had the Watkins is not

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<v Speaker 1>swooped in and started hosting it, that would have been it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would not have even made it into I would

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<v Speaker 1>have moved on UH for sure, because I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the money to keep this going, and not really even

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<v Speaker 1>the will to keep it going, you know. So. But

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Watkins contacts me in September and he basically very

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<v Speaker 1>hypes up his association with two Channel. To Channel is

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<v Speaker 1>a legendary site amongst image board enthusiasts. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most popular text boards founded in nine Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go too deeply into it, as

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<v Speaker 1>it moves away from what we're looking at too much,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are some very credible allegations that the Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>family stole two Channel away from its owner after effectively

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<v Speaker 1>cunning him out of it. As you can probably tell

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<v Speaker 1>by now, Jim Watkins is by all accounts a particularly

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<v Speaker 1>seedy individual. Whilst HM was at the height of its

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<v Speaker 1>popularity when Q and on really began to emerge as

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal, images of child abuse were allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>be freely shared on h N. Neither Jim Watkins nor

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<v Speaker 1>Ron Watkins chose to ban such horrific material. They claim

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<v Speaker 1>to be free speech absolutists. Somehow, they think that means

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<v Speaker 1>it would be against their morals to stop pedophiles abusing

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<v Speaker 1>children and organizing via their web site. It's sickening and

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<v Speaker 1>it's nonsensical. Their claims of being a free speech absolutists

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<v Speaker 1>don't line up with their far right political beliefs either.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they actually believe in is essentially we can say

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we want, but you can't if it deviates from

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<v Speaker 1>our ideas. Now, I'm not advocating for censorship. I am

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<v Speaker 1>anti censorship, and I am very much in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>free speech. And I do not like people that say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>free speech is just a code word for right wing

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<v Speaker 1>populism or whatever it is people say now. But the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that being a free speech absolutist means you allow

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<v Speaker 1>people to be victimized and abused on your website is absolute, complete,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking nonsense. This is not what it's about. The Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>just want to steamroll people with their ideas and say

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want, whenever they want. This is most apparent

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<v Speaker 1>with something called the gold Water that was Jim Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>has failed. At Trump obsessed online talk show that posed

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<v Speaker 1>as kind of right wing news media alternative news, Jim

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<v Speaker 1>would spread conspiracy theories and populist right wing talking points

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<v Speaker 1>with no evidence whatsoever, very similar to what Q was

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<v Speaker 1>putting out at the time, and he's still doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim's undying sycophantic love for Trump was apparent for everyone

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<v Speaker 1>to see any time you would watch the Gold War.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a listened to this clip of Watkins talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Trump from a video titled Hardline. God Bless the President

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<v Speaker 1>that was published July. We have to see more and

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<v Speaker 1>more of the president in the wild where he is

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<v Speaker 1>actually changing lives and literally spreading love. Can't you see

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<v Speaker 1>that his love for our country is overflowing. It's up

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<v Speaker 1>spending his golden years enjoying the fruits of what he

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<v Speaker 1>planted through his life. He is spending his fortune and

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<v Speaker 1>quite honestly, we all know the last few years of

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<v Speaker 1>his good health helping you and I keep our country great.

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<v Speaker 1>This is real patriotism. It is genuine love of our country.

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<v Speaker 1>The news is disreputable. This is why we need to

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<v Speaker 1>have more of the President speaking and doing and just

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<v Speaker 1>being lovable American guy. We all enjoy. God Bless our

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<v Speaker 1>President in the United States of America. Right. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it might sound like Jim is taking the piss there,

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<v Speaker 1>but he isn't. That's just how he sounds when reading

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<v Speaker 1>off of a script. It sounds like he's mocking someone

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds very creepy, but that's just the way he sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Watkins openly idolizes Trump. If you ask me, his

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<v Speaker 1>language also sounds a lot like someone else who idolizes Trump. Q.

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<v Speaker 1>We know for a fact that Jim Watkins is a

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<v Speaker 1>Q and ON follower himself. It's no secret. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you just click on the only website listed

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<v Speaker 1>on Jim's YouTube page where you'll find many of these

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<v Speaker 1>strange MAGA videos, it takes you to a website called

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<v Speaker 1>is It Wet Yet, where he promotes Q and on

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<v Speaker 1>websites amongst them are the following US, the que Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>United Disarmed, the Deep State Q. The more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and JFK Jr. Is Alive, which that is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the more wackier Q and on conspiracies where they think

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<v Speaker 1>JFK Jr. Is alive, He's coming back. He's on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of Q. It's all very crazy, but anyway, Jim

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<v Speaker 1>clearly has a fascination with Q. This is also something

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick Brennan witnessed himself firsthand when he went to work

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<v Speaker 1>with Jim in the Philippines after Jim brought out now

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<v Speaker 1>when Ron Watkins told Frederick Brennan that they would take

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<v Speaker 1>over the servers. Jim Watkins got involved and said that

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted Frederick to work with them, not just from

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<v Speaker 1>New York, where fred Brennan was living in very hard

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances because he has quite a serious disability, but they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to fly him all the way over to the

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<v Speaker 1>Philippines that would look after him. This is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they did, Frederick Brennan explains, So he offered hosting, that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first thing, and I accepted that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>moved the server, like all the contents to their host.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after that, his dad offered for me to

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<v Speaker 1>actually come to the Philippines. And they said basically they

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<v Speaker 1>would roll out the red carpet, they would find me

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<v Speaker 1>a place to live, they would pay a nurse to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of me all the time. I could just

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<v Speaker 1>work on h n all the time and it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a sixty forty split a future profits. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the deal. I mean, it sounded good to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a really hard life in New York City. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Um my condition is osteogenesis and perfecta. I've had it

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<v Speaker 1>since I was born. Uh clauses brittle bones. I've broken

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<v Speaker 1>in my lifetime over a hundred ten bones or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Just obviously the same one again and again mostly,

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<v Speaker 1>but so I got emailed by them first they took

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<v Speaker 1>over the hosting. Uh. They knew that my situation was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tough and that I couldn't do a lot anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Watkins met me in Hong Kong and brought me

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<v Speaker 1>to Manila on the last leg of the flight. My

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<v Speaker 1>life was all different now, and I just worked on

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<v Speaker 1>h N all the time. After a while working with

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<v Speaker 1>Ron and Jim Watkins, Frederick Brennan began to realize that

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<v Speaker 1>Jim was fully involved with Q. He says he thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was going senile because he believed in these wild

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theories. All of us it. And if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the days, the times add up at this time

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been when I think Paul Ferber was

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<v Speaker 1>controlling the Q. And on account I've listened to what

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick Brennan has to say. The thing that I regret

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<v Speaker 1>the most is not caring about Q when I worked there,

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<v Speaker 1>like even when I resigned in December eighteen, I did

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<v Speaker 1>not care necessarily about Q, like even enough to read

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<v Speaker 1>the drops, you know, the only thing that made me

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<v Speaker 1>start to care a little bit was I I became

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<v Speaker 1>concerned because I thought Jim was going senile and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of believing in it. The way Jim was talking at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, he was already repeating a lot of q slogans,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and talking about the Clinton body count and

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<v Speaker 1>how there could be mass arrests, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was very concerned he was losing his marbles

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<v Speaker 1>and being taken for a ride by these chan users,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because he was spending way too much time

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<v Speaker 1>on H and two. This point, Frederick Brennan came up

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<v Speaker 1>with a kind of pray where he had this big

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<v Speaker 1>blue queue and he put it on the h and

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<v Speaker 1>basically to try and prove to Jim that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>all real. This is when Jim turned around and said

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<v Speaker 1>the following. He kind of just flippantly was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>represents so many users essentially, and it might not be real. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>fred you proved that. But it behooves me to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of the fact that I'm CUES publisher. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the super Pact plan was already in

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<v Speaker 1>the making, even all the way in. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Q started on four Chune, Paul Ferber stole it,

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<v Speaker 1>brought over to HUM and they very consciously either realized

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<v Speaker 1>that this represented a lot of users, and just like

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<v Speaker 1>they've done to two Channel, they decided to appropriate it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Yes, you did hear that right. Frederick Brennan,

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<v Speaker 1>the creator of h CHAN, who worked physically alongside the

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins family for years, thinks that Q and On is

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<v Speaker 1>now under the control of Jim and Ron Watkins and

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<v Speaker 1>has been since Paul Ferber had his Q and On

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<v Speaker 1>account hijacked from him on h N shortly after he

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<v Speaker 1>crossed over from Fortune. It's not just Frederick Brennan who

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<v Speaker 1>thinks this either. I think this as the many Q

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<v Speaker 1>and On researchers. To be clear, Jim and Ron Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>are very likely behind the Q and On hoax. There

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<v Speaker 1>will be a lot more on this in the next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But to end this one, I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something very interesting the crop Top online only this week

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<v Speaker 1>in regards to Ron Watkins and his connections to Q

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<v Speaker 1>and On. Remember earlier I said that Ron announced that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd quit a coun on November three. He said this

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<v Speaker 1>in a statement on Twitter. It reads as so quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I am resigning as admin of eight coun effective immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Extensive battles have been fought tooth and nail during a

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<v Speaker 1>self imposed civic duty protecting the final fortifications of online

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<v Speaker 1>free speech. Guardedly navigating these tumultuous times, today, I bring

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<v Speaker 1>ship to Doc Farewell. End quote. Interestingly, the formatting of

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<v Speaker 1>this tweet is quite similar to the way that Q

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<v Speaker 1>puts his stuff out. There are a lot of line

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<v Speaker 1>breaks right in the middle of sentences. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>quite interesting. Anyway. On November this is when things went

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<v Speaker 1>a bit mad. A verified account claiming to be Ron

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins on that new no rules social media website Parla

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<v Speaker 1>posted the following message quote, I'm burnt, can't say much more.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet me on a con in two hours on the

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<v Speaker 1>board Slash news plus Slash Yes Jim has posted as

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<v Speaker 1>cube before fuck you Dad. End quote. Now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>all this seemed like a bit of a smoking gun.

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<v Speaker 1>The account on Parlor was verified after all. However, Ron

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<v Speaker 1>quickly hopped on Twitter to say the following quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen screenshots of someone impersonating me on your Parlor website,

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<v Speaker 1>he was adding the creator of Parlor, I have never

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<v Speaker 1>used Parlor I don't have a Parlor account. I have

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<v Speaker 1>never submitted any identification to Parlor. I have never asked

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<v Speaker 1>to be verified on Parlor. What's going on? End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>He also attached an image of an email to Parlor

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<v Speaker 1>that said this quote, Hello Parlor, I am Ron Watkins

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<v Speaker 1>at code Monkey's head on Twitter. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>part her account and have never used parlor. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>there an apt code monkeys that account on parlor posting

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<v Speaker 1>as me that is verified. I have never submitted any

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<v Speaker 1>identification to you, and I don't even have an account

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<v Speaker 1>on Parlor. Thanks, Ron Watkins end quote. The email, for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason I just read off appears to be a

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<v Speaker 1>draft as opposed to an email that has been sent.

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<v Speaker 1>Make of that what you will. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that's relevant. It's just something people online have been pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out when discussing this situation. After Ron refuted to claim

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<v Speaker 1>that it was him on the Parlor account, Fred Brennan

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<v Speaker 1>posted the following tweet quote. The Ron Watkins Parlor account

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<v Speaker 1>Code Monkeys was registered on July one. Shortly before that

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<v Speaker 1>Ron mentioned Parlor for the first time. I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>reconsidered this is strong evidence the account is his and

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<v Speaker 1>he's lying about a hacker. End quote. The accompanied screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>that Frederick Brennan is referring to. That tweet was a

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<v Speaker 1>tweet of Runs sent on July six, and it reads

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<v Speaker 1>as so this is what Ron wrote on Twitter. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I dislike how parlor set up all content behind the

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<v Speaker 1>registration wall and require a phone number to register. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a hard pass for me right now, but let's see

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<v Speaker 1>where they are in a few months. I might reconsider

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. Now, I disagree with Brennan that this is

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<v Speaker 1>strong evidence of any kind. I don't know if the

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<v Speaker 1>parlor account was run or not. Apparently it's not hard

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<v Speaker 1>for verified parlor accounts to change their name and handle. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think this is all very interesting in regards

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<v Speaker 1>to the timing of it. Run Quit eight coun has

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly had to flee the Philippines and then this parlor

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<v Speaker 1>incident happened. If it is someone impersonating Ron, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's also deeply ironic. Considering like I said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's part of the Q and On hoax. There are

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<v Speaker 1>many dots to connect here. In the next episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Q Clearance will begin peacing together the huge online coincidences

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<v Speaker 1>that further connect the Watkins to Q and On, including

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<v Speaker 1>trip codes, IP addresses, and fountain pens. We're not relying

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<v Speaker 1>on flimsy evidence here, no, he says. She says. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to build a solid case that we show Jim

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<v Speaker 1>and Ron Watkins are in fact, very very likely behind

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<v Speaker 1>Q and On. Q Clearance is brought to you by

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