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Speaker 1: Q and On is the world's largest online political conspiracy movement.

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Speaker 1: Followers believe someone code named Q is provided them with

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Speaker 1: secret information from inside the White House. No one really

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Speaker 1: knows the real identity of Q, though we aim to

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Speaker 1: change that. I'm Jake Hanrahan and this is Q Clearance

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Speaker 1: podcast series aimed unmasking the true identity of Q. This

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Speaker 1: is brought to you by i R Radio QU Data Media.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, will be taking a look at the

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Speaker 1: infamous Watkins family and their deep connections to Q and On. First, though,

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Speaker 1: I want to take a look at some recent Q drops.

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Speaker 1: These ones are specifically relevant, I think, as they come

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Speaker 1: at a point of huge post election turmoil within the

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Speaker 1: Q and on community. As we mentioned in the last episode,

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Speaker 1: So after nine days of silence in which Q and

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Speaker 1: on has made up new theories, lost faith, and turn

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Speaker 1: up to a voting center with a rifle, Q posted

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Speaker 1: his first post Biden victory drops on November twelve. The

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Speaker 1: first was just a graphic of an American flag and

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Speaker 1: the message nothing can stop what is coming nothing Q.

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Speaker 1: The second was a little bit more detailed, though it

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Speaker 1: reads as so quote, shall we play a game? Nothing

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Speaker 1: can stop what is coming, and then he's showing the

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Speaker 1: abbreviation of ncs W I C means nothing can stop

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Speaker 1: what's coming. There's a link to the CSA dot gov website,

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Speaker 1: and then he says who stepped down today? Forced he's

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Speaker 1: referring to Brian s where there's a link to the

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Speaker 1: CISA website. There then he says more coming. Why is

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Speaker 1: this relevant? How do you show the public the truth?

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Speaker 1: How do you safeguard U S elections post potus? How

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Speaker 1: do you remove foreign interference and corruption and install US

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Speaker 1: owned voter I D laws and other safeguards. It had

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Speaker 1: to be this way. Sometimes you must walk through the

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Speaker 1: darkness before you see the light. Q end quote. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into what all of this

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Speaker 1: is alluding to, because frankly, it's just a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of nonsense as usual. But basically Q

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Speaker 1: is now trying to form a new narrative that this

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Speaker 1: was all part of the plan Biden was meant to

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Speaker 1: win and everything is going smoothly. He's basically mirroring what

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Speaker 1: the most hardcore Q supporters have been saying in the

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Speaker 1: nine days of silence before these drops on November there

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Speaker 1: was another drop that simply read Durham. Q. Durham presumably

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Speaker 1: refers to a Justice Department lawyer named John Durham mcguy

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Speaker 1: with a big kind of niets a look in mustache.

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Speaker 1: He's been looking into possible corruption within the Clinton Foundation.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm guessing here that Q is trying to insinuate

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Speaker 1: that Durham will be investigating the election results or something.

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Speaker 1: But at this point it all feels like whoever is

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Speaker 1: behind Q and On is just playing for time. To me,

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Speaker 1: it feels like they don't quite know what their next

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Speaker 1: move is. As I said in the previous episode, everyone

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Speaker 1: in the Q and On the universe was sure Trump

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Speaker 1: would win the election. Now it's Biden. Q can't exactly

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Speaker 1: keep the hopes going for four more years, so I

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Speaker 1: think he's not quite sure what to do. This brings

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Speaker 1: us back to the Watkins family, the people currently running

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Speaker 1: eight con where Q posts all his drops. As you'll

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Speaker 1: probably remember, the Watkins name has cropped up a lot

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Speaker 1: in the last five episodes of Q Clearance. I've resisted

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Speaker 1: diving straight into who they are so we could set

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Speaker 1: On extended universe. Now, though, it's time to look into

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Speaker 1: who this family actually is. To do this, we have

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Speaker 1: to start with Jim Watkins. Like I said, he's the

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Speaker 1: current owner of a Kun and the former owner of

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Speaker 1: Q posts his drops. Just want to repeat that as

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of strange names going about, just

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Speaker 1: to help you remember what's going on now. I've tried

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Speaker 1: many times to reach out to the Watkins family. They

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Speaker 1: Watkins to go on a live stream on his YouTube

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Speaker 1: to ask him about his role within Q and on. Finally,

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Speaker 1: sure that he knows that I am an independent journalist

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Speaker 1: running my own platform, Popular Front. I explained this to Jim,

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Speaker 1: We tried to give him a go, he didn't want

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Speaker 1: to speak tough. Look, so who is Jim Watkins. I'll

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Speaker 1: be answering this question using research which I gathered from

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Speaker 1: work by many different writers and journalists, including Travis Review,

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Speaker 1: Rachel E. Greenspan, Jovis Littleton, Ethan Chill, and many more.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to do your own research after this. If

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Speaker 1: those people I mentioned. Anyway, let's begin, believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: Jim Watkins is a fifty seven year old pig farmer

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Speaker 1: who currently lives in the Philippines. He looks after the

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Speaker 1: better known online by his moniker code Monkey. Ron recently

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Speaker 1: we'll get more into Roun later. So Jim Jim Watkins.

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Speaker 1: He was born in ninety three and grew up mostly

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Speaker 1: something Frederick Brennan, the former founder of h N noticed

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Speaker 1: Ron Watkins contacts me in September and he basically very

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Speaker 1: hypes up his association with two Channel. To Channel is

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Speaker 1: by now, Jim Watkins is by all accounts a particularly

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Speaker 1: seedy individual. Whilst HM was at the height of its

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Speaker 1: it would be against their morals to stop pedophiles abusing

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Speaker 1: it's nonsensical. Their claims of being a free speech absolutists

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Speaker 1: fucking nonsense. This is not what it's about. The Watkins

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Speaker 1: has failed. At Trump obsessed online talk show that posed

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Speaker 1: Jim's undying sycophantic love for Trump was apparent for everyone

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Speaker 1: Have a listened to this clip of Watkins talking about

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Speaker 1: Trump from a video titled Hardline. God Bless the President

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Speaker 1: that was published July. We have to see more and

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Speaker 1: more of the president in the wild where he is

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Speaker 1: that his love for our country is overflowing. It's up

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Speaker 1: This is real patriotism. It is genuine love of our country.

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Speaker 1: The news is disreputable. This is why we need to

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Speaker 1: have more of the President speaking and doing and just

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Speaker 1: being lovable American guy. We all enjoy. God Bless our

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Speaker 1: President in the United States of America. Right. I know

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Speaker 1: it might sound like Jim is taking the piss there,

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Speaker 1: but he isn't. That's just how he sounds when reading

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Speaker 1: It sounds very creepy, but that's just the way he sounds.

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Speaker 1: Jim Watkins openly idolizes Trump. If you ask me, his

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Speaker 1: language also sounds a lot like someone else who idolizes Trump. Q.

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Speaker 1: We know for a fact that Jim Watkins is a

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Speaker 1: Q and ON follower himself. It's no secret. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if you just click on the only website listed

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Speaker 1: strange MAGA videos, it takes you to a website called

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Speaker 1: websites amongst them are the following US, the que Patriots

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Speaker 1: United Disarmed, the Deep State Q. The more you know,

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Speaker 1: and JFK Jr. Is Alive, which that is one of

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Speaker 1: the more wackier Q and on conspiracies where they think

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Speaker 1: Q Clearance will begin peacing together the huge online coincidences

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and cou Data Media. I'm Jake Hanrahan.

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Speaker 1: You can find me online at Jake Underscore Hand Rahan.

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