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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody, John middlecop Fat's Meat three

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Speaker 1: and Out podcast. That's the show. Thanks for listening, appreciate everybody.

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Speaker 1: How are we doing? I just watched an absolute butt

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Speaker 1: kicking asked whooping, total beat down Green Bay Packers destroyed

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Speaker 1: the injured Corona Forts and we'll dive into that off

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Speaker 1: the top, of course, because it's usually what we do

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Speaker 1: here on the show. As we talk about Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: Have some thoughts on a lot of different stuff this week. Uh,

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Speaker 1: some some comments by Bill Belichick that that I want

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Speaker 1: to dive into. Clemson has a new freshman quarterback because

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is still out with the Corona who has

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Speaker 1: a chance to be the number one overall pick. We'll

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Speaker 1: do three for them money, Uh, dive into three games

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Speaker 1: that I like this week. The College Slates gets a

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Speaker 1: little bigger, The Pack twelve is back. Uh, some pretty

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Speaker 1: good packed twelve games, and uh so basically all of

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Speaker 1: of course at John Middlecoff Instagram, handle fire in my

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Speaker 1: d ms. How you get on the show. We answer

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Speaker 1: your questions. It's very simple to do. I've been saying

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the game. No takes on the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners. They're in shambles, they're injured, They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna win many games. Nick Mullen stinks. Uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: get the Packers credit. They showed up on a short

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Speaker 1: week and they beat the crap out of the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Now they were, by kickoff, a seven and a half

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Speaker 1: what they were supposed to do. But I said this

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Speaker 1: You don't need a great defense, but you need a

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Speaker 1: good defense. What do Seattle and what do the Packers have.

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Speaker 1: They have Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Rogers Russell Wilson both

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Speaker 1: one of the most talented players we've ever seen. Now

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Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson's kind of becoming that too. I

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Speaker 1: mean both of them. I mean, to me, Rogers competing

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're all time grades. But they can't do

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Speaker 1: They can throw up points that they can't so can Seattle.

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Speaker 1: all over with Jerick McKinnon, who's torn as they see

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Speaker 1: We've seen it the history of this team for the

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Speaker 1: The next two years the Niners beat him, and then

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers carried him to that NFC Championship game and

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Speaker 1: the Falcons beat him. It's always their defense that is

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Speaker 1: the problem. And I know Colin gets on Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: and listen, like today he uh Valdes Scantling drops the

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Speaker 1: ball and he's mean mugging him. It's like Aaron, like,

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Speaker 1: why you got to do that? Now? He did a

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Speaker 1: couple of series later hit him on a deep bomb, Like, listen,

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Speaker 1: we can argue all day long about Aaron's passive aggressiveness.

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Speaker 1: they have a number one overall pick that doesn't impact

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Speaker 1: their team at all, and that their number two overall pick,

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Speaker 1: of the teams you're gonna have to beat to win

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Speaker 1: turns out just you couldn't be one team, the Niners

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Speaker 1: their offense is fine. It's part of the deal with

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Speaker 1: of the five years they ran into some pretty good teams.

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Speaker 1: hard on Matt la Floor. I might be wrong, Like sure,

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Speaker 1: that crap, strictly about getting games on TV. That's the

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Speaker 1: only goal, getting games on television. So right now the

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Speaker 1: information I have, we're gonna have seven teams in each

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Speaker 1: commerce they've added the team which I like. At that

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Speaker 1: seven team, one team gets a buy and then the

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Speaker 1: seven places the two, the six places at three in

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Speaker 1: the five plays the four and one thing hit me

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Speaker 1: looking at these teams that are making the playoffs. You

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Speaker 1: need two things to make the playoffs, like it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. And if you don't have one of

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Speaker 1: these two things, or have one of these two guys

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Speaker 1: heading in that direction, you probably should either get rid

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Speaker 1: of them or fire them. And here's what I think

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Speaker 1: you need to make the playoffs. You need a top

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Speaker 1: flight coachs A top flight doesn't need to be a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but a guy that we view go

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Speaker 1: that's a really good coach or a big time quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And if you have both of them, your obviously the

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Speaker 1: team is gonna be really good. So let's look the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, currently the one seed Mike Tomlin future Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer, Roethlisberg future Hall of Famer. That one's pretty easy.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at the Colts are a good example. Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers I would no longer call a big time quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but Frank Reich, I think we can all agree really

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Speaker 1: solid coach. Is he great? No? Is he bad? No?

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Speaker 1: If his team's talented enough, they're gonna win you know games,

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Speaker 1: and that's what it feels like they're on pace to do.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs speak for itself. I think the Browns are

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Speaker 1: a good example, and the Browns should make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: though their schedule still shakes out pretty easy. The Browns,

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Speaker 1: their quarterback is a major question mark. If he was

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Speaker 1: not the number one overall pick and had been a

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Speaker 1: third round pick, we'd say, yeah, Baker Mayfields probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the team. But whether they pick up

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Speaker 1: his fifth year option this year, I would say probably not,

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Speaker 1: but he's gonna be their quarterback next year. Looks like

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Speaker 1: pretty average at best, but their coach looks really good.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. It took him a while to become a coordinator,

463
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Speaker 1: longtime position coach. I watched him this year and go

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Speaker 1: Kevin ste Fancy's good. He's good enough to get your

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Speaker 1: team in the playoffs. Is he gonna be some elite

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Speaker 1: all time coach? I don't know, but watch him enough,

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Speaker 1: I go, this guy's got a chance to be a

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Speaker 1: ten year NFL head coach. And the Browns would die

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Speaker 1: for that because they've been running through coaches like you

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Speaker 1: and me run through bottles of water. Tennessee Titans kind

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Speaker 1: of the same thing. Tanny Hills. Clearly, we'd all take

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Speaker 1: Tanny Hill over Baker Mayfield. But you know he's like

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Speaker 1: this this you know, uh, next five or six year

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Speaker 1: version of Alex Smith, probably a little more talented, but

475
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Speaker 1: makes probably dumber mistakes. But Mike Vrabel's big time. Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel is clearly a playoff level head coach. Baltimore Ravens

477
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Speaker 1: really good quarterback, flawed, but really good. Clearly very good.

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Speaker 1: Can get you to the playoffs, no problem, hard bought

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner, Bang Bang boom, The Buffalo Bills kind

480
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Speaker 1: of a mixture of them both. I was really high

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen early in the season. He's coming back to Earth.

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Speaker 1: But I think even the Josh Allen haters would go

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Speaker 1: there is a lot to work with we've seen the

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Speaker 1: flashes this year for a several games stretch. Can he

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Speaker 1: get it back the train back on the tracks. He's

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Speaker 1: a really talented thrower of the football, though his decision

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Speaker 1: making has looks shitty, but he's he was a playoff

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Speaker 1: quarterback last year. I expected to be a playoff quarterback

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Speaker 1: again this year. When the division Sean McDermott very solid

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Speaker 1: head coach. You need a top flight coach or top

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Speaker 1: flight you know, a top flight talent at quarterback or

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Speaker 1: kind of meet in the middle like the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: I think Vrabel is a good example of probably balancing

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Speaker 1: out Tanny Hill. Stefanski clearly is the strong one there.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens, the Chiefs, the Steelers. Would you have really

496
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Speaker 1: good at both ends? The Packers. La Fleur I was

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Speaker 1: probably too low on the floor. Seems like a really

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Speaker 1: high level guy in the sense of Aaron Rodgers really

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Speaker 1: likes I watched the floor, the floors, press conferences. He's

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Speaker 1: a very very smart guy and he he's a solid

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Speaker 1: play caller the mixture. I give him a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit because Aaron Rodgers has bought into his offense, but

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Speaker 1: he still allow him to kind of run some of

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Speaker 1: his spread it out right what they did with Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy concepts, because that's where Aaron thrives, and he should

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Speaker 1: get the benefit that he's one of the best quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen. So Aaron Rodgers all time great. As

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Speaker 1: long as he's healthy, you're gonna make the playoffs. But

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Speaker 1: la flour is proving himself to be a very solid

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Speaker 1: head coach. The Seattle Seahawks Hall of Fame coach, Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback the Rams are a good example. Despite

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Speaker 1: being one of the highest paid players in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the third highest paid player this year

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Speaker 1: in the league. Jared Goffs mediocre. I'm rooting for him.

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Speaker 1: He's just not very good. I've watched him the last month.

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Speaker 1: He looks awful. Actually, he does not look very good

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Speaker 1: at all. Can't move. His accuracy for a quote unquote

518
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Speaker 1: accurate quarterback is very hit or miss. But Sean mcveigh's

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Speaker 1: big time, like the information is in made the playoffs

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Speaker 1: first year, one of the Super Bowls. Second year. Last

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Speaker 1: year was a disaster. Oh wait, it wasn't really. They

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Speaker 1: went nine and seven. This year. They look poised to

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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs again with their quarterback kind of

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Speaker 1: playing like ship tam Bay Buccaneers Arians playoff level coach

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, the Goat, the Arizona Cardinals. I think you're

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Speaker 1: a good example, a little bit like the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: But the reverse Cliff Kingsbury. Is he some playoff level coach.

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Speaker 1: I'd say no, couldn't win in college. You know, this

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Speaker 1: year I watched Kyler Murray and go. He makes plays

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Speaker 1: kind of out of his ass, much more than I

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Speaker 1: see Cliff Kingsbury just dialing it up. Their defense stinks.

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Speaker 1: That's on Kingsbury. He hired Vance Joseph or the organization

533
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Speaker 1: did whatever. But like I just don't view their coaching

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Speaker 1: staff as a quote unquote playoff level coaching staff, but

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Speaker 1: they have a star quarterback. Kyler Murray is kind of

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Speaker 1: This generation is the modern version of Michael Vick. He's

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Speaker 1: more accurate, he's less likely to get hurt because he slides,

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Speaker 1: and part of that's his baseball background. If you remember,

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick couldn't slide, didn't know how. Remember the Atlanta

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00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: Braves when he was Atlanta. Try to teach him, but

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Speaker 1: it was very uncomfortable for him, and just just sprint

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Speaker 1: for ten yards and try to slide. Some people do

543
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Speaker 1: it naturally, some people can't. Kyler Murray clearly the baseball background,

544
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: it comes easy to him. But if the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: will make the playoffs this year, it's because of one individual,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Now does Cliff Kingsbury get credit, of course

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Speaker 1: he does. The more credit I'd get for him than

548
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Speaker 1: being the head coach was for him having the vision

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Speaker 1: of we need this guy, this guy will change the franchise,

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Speaker 1: and he was right. Then you have this game right now,

551
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Speaker 1: the five and four seed, the Bears, who listen, I

552
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: love my guy, Matt Naggy, his team. They shut down

553
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: because of Corona. Like they're heavy underdogs of the Tennessee

554
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: Titans this weekend. They're probably on the path of not

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs. So that team will be replaced I

556
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Speaker 1: would imagine by the Saints eventually, and then the Eagles.

557
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Like listen, we can talk ship all day long about

558
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: the coach and the quarterback. Every team in the league

559
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: that needs a quarterback would take Carson Wentz without flinching.

560
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl. We saw him be

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Speaker 1: Belichick in a Super Bowl. How many coaches have done that.

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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin and Doug Peterson short list right and last

563
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: night check Tom Conflin's got two Lombardies. So I give

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Speaker 1: Doug Dougs a big time coach. And you want to

565
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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, you do not. Unlike winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Your defense doesn't need to be great, it just does

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Speaker 1: your defense. Look at the Seattle the Cardinals, You're right, uh,

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Speaker 1: looking at some other teams here. I guess most of

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Speaker 1: the teams in the a f c's defense is actually

570
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Speaker 1: pretty good. But the NFC, they're gonna be some bad

571
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Speaker 1: defense to make the playoffs because they have great quarterbacks,

572
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: were great coaches. That's what you need. My favorite part

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Speaker 1: about watching college football, and it really always has been,

574
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Speaker 1: but definitely now as a viewer unless time gambling on

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Speaker 1: it is to watch these big time players that are

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Speaker 1: gonna be future pros. I use it like I'm not

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Speaker 1: watching much film March April, like getting ready for the draft,

578
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Speaker 1: mainly because I don't have that big of a life.

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Speaker 1: I don't do that much. In the fall. On on Saturdays,

580
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Speaker 1: I watched football all day long, multiple televisions, and I

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Speaker 1: can kind of put together my big board of the

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Speaker 1: guys that I think are gonna be good pros. In

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Speaker 1: my head, it's a great part about being a podcaster.

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Speaker 1: That's the way I roll, and I use Saturday's to

585
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Speaker 1: keep an eye. I don't follow college recruiting that closely

586
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Speaker 1: because having worked in it, it doesn't matter. Now it

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Speaker 1: does matter in terms of obviously Clemson, Ohio State, Bam.

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00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't matter for to build a

589
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Speaker 1: really good team. But just because you're the number one

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Speaker 1: player or a five star recruit, we have countless examples

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Speaker 1: of those guys not becoming NFL players. So I wait

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Speaker 1: until you play on Saturday to go, oh, this guy

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Speaker 1: is gonna be good. I don't go this five star.

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Speaker 1: I just don't waste that much time on that. And

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Speaker 1: I know many people listening. If you're a big Ohio

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Speaker 1: State guy, Obama guy, an l s U guy, I

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Speaker 1: understand it. I don't necessarily quote unquote have a team.

598
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Speaker 1: My team is really more the NFL. So I wait

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Speaker 1: till they ball, and then I go, Okay, this guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna be sweet. Unless like Naji Harris, for example, was

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Speaker 1: this enormous recruit. He was just right down the street

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Speaker 1: from my house, so I knew a lot about him,

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Speaker 1: and occasionally a guy becomes so famous I know a

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Speaker 1: lot about but other than that, like I wait till

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Speaker 1: they play on Saturday. That's how I roll. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the Middlecoff scouting service. Plus, if I ever have a

607
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: question on a guy, I can just text, you know,

608
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: my countless buddies that actually scout these guys in the

609
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: league and get the information, which helps I have easy

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Speaker 1: I have easy access. Uh so I don't need to

611
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: rely on Bleacher Report for my draft news. Here's the

612
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: thing last I guess it was two years ago now.

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Speaker 1: Guy Harman Harman Middle Cooff my other podcast. He does

614
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Speaker 1: game for the Pack twelve network, and he does spring games,

615
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Speaker 1: and he did the spring Oregon game and he came

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Speaker 1: back and we were recording a podcast and he was

617
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Speaker 1: telling me about this guy he met. He's like bro,

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Speaker 1: I met the number one quarterback in the class before

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Speaker 1: we called the game. He was there on a recruiting trip.

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Speaker 1: This when Herbert was still there and Mario was just

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Speaker 1: named the head coach, and Oregon's recruiting is like the

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Speaker 1: only team on the West Coast that recruits like an

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Speaker 1: SEC or Ohio State. Right now, they crush it because Mario,

624
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Speaker 1: who is an Alabama guy, has that mindset, and they

625
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: were trying to land this quarterback from Los Angeles. He

626
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Speaker 1: was this Polynesian guy. His name was DJ. I can't

627
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: even say his last name, so I'm just gonna call

628
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Speaker 1: him DJ. And he's like, this guy is enormous, and

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Speaker 1: everyone around Oregon's program was like, I'm telling you, this

630
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Speaker 1: guy is a superstar. And at the time his final

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Speaker 1: two schools were between Oregon and Clemson number one quarterback,

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Speaker 1: everyone in college thought this guy was a star. He

633
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Speaker 1: ended up committing to Oregon, so I again would not

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Speaker 1: have known about this guy unless guy had told me,

635
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Speaker 1: and then I started googling. I've just kept an eye,

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Speaker 1: and when I found out he was going to Clemson,

637
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Speaker 1: I even kept a closer eye because obviously, once Trevor

638
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Lawrence eventually goes to the pros, this guy was gonna

639
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback. Then Trevor Lawrence gets Corona and

640
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: he has to miss last week, so I go, you

641
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: know what, I don't typically watch Clemson games unless they're

642
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: playing I'll be honest, I actually don't watch that many

643
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Clemson games against the a c C because whenever I

644
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: have over the last handful of years, it's like forty

645
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: to nothing before you even blank. It's like this is

646
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: a joke. Occasionally, when they've played a Syracuse or whatever

647
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: and it'll be tied, that's when I'll tune in, Like

648
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: when they're tied at halftime, like, oh, this is the

649
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: game of the year that they're gonna like lay an

650
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: egg and still pull out. So that'll be. But for

651
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: whatever reason, once Trevor Lawrence got Corona, I read, Okay, DJ,

652
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: the star freshman from St. John Bosco's was gonna be

653
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: the starter. I'm like, I'm watching this bad boy nine

654
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: am kickoff last week. My takeaway was, this guy's gonna

655
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: be a star. This guy is a chance to be

656
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft. Like I've been

657
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: doing this long enough to know, Yeah, that guy's a dude.

658
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: He's enormous, he's athletic, and his arm looks like I mean,

659
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: he's got a cannon. It's like Josh Allen or Mahomes.

660
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: This week against Notre Dame, I think he has a

661
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: chance to solidify himself of the future number one pick.

662
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Like said it in Stone. Now, that doesn't mean things

663
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: can't change. We've seen it before with Hackenburg. Right, clearly,

664
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: this guy's way better than Hackenburg. But my point is

665
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen when he was really young, we thought that

666
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: guy is gonna be a number one. Things change. But

667
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: I think early on in this guy's career he has

668
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of cement himself. As we see

669
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: this a lot in basketball, like a Zion Williamson we

670
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: talked about for years Lebron. Some of these big, big

671
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: time recruits doesn't mean they always live up the hype.

672
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this guy is gonna be a star

673
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: NFL player. He's played one collegian game, but I saw

674
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: enough in that Boston College game, and I read this

675
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: a story on the Athletic that a little bit like

676
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, when you remember when Justin Herbert when Tyrod

677
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: Taylor got the injection and it went into it punctured

678
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: as lung, and then Justin Herbert had to be told

679
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: in pregame warmups like bro, you're starting. This guy found

680
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: out on Thursday that Trevor Lawrence got Corona, had a

681
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: day to get ready and went and beat Boston College.

682
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Who Boston College Their coach, Jeff Hasley Hassley, I can

683
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: screw up his name to San Francisco, so I've kind

684
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: of kept up, you know, tabs on his career. Was

685
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: at Ohio State last year and now he's the head coach.

686
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: He's doing a good job. There were four and two.

687
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: It's not like there's some shitty Boston college team. Now,

688
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Clemson laid a little bit of an egg, but this

689
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: guy made just some eye opening throws where the scout

690
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: and me went, uh, yeah, this guy is a dude.

691
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: You do that against Notre Dame. Everyone's paying attention, not

692
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: just you know, the media, the hype train, the fans,

693
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: but the NFL people, Like everyone's got this guy's name

694
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: circled on the board now, like they don't quite have it.

695
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: Like he's in my head. Most NFL people are not

696
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: paying attention to freshman that this is not basketball. You

697
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: don't have to because he's still two years away after

698
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: this year from me even being draft eligible. But you

699
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: get put in the vernacular more. I'm not even talking

700
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: about the road scouts. I'm talking about the general managers,

701
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: the owners, the head coaches. They're at home. I guess well,

702
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: the coaches are usually at the hotel, but the gms

703
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: are at home, the owners are at home, you're scouting

704
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: directors at home. Those are the guys that are watching

705
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: this game. And I'm telling you, as a viewer, as

706
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: a football fan, keep an eye on this guy. Now.

707
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, he might play shitty. It's gonna be

708
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: really difficult. Notre Dame is really good. Now. If Trevor

709
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence was there, I'd say Clemson would beat him by

710
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: double digits. It's hard for a true freshman. Brian Kelly,

711
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: for as much ship as he gets, is a really

712
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: good coach, very very physical team. Clemson's probably got more athletes.

713
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: But as you see every year these guys that come

714
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: into the NFL, it's like Notre Dame has got some

715
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: athletes too. Claypool, he could have played for Clemson. It's

716
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: pretty clear. Right I'm watching for the Steelers kick everyone's

717
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: ass every week. That guy could have played at Alabama,

718
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: like I could have played at LSU. That guy could

719
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: have played it Clemson. Claypool is the big time. He's

720
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: a dude, and it does feel when you just watch

721
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Now, they got more of those guys. So

722
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: if DJ can go in there and play well, I

723
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: just think the sky's the limit and you're looking at

724
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: what Trevor Lawrence was two and a half years ago.

725
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: What this guy is. He clearly has the pedigree. Five star,

726
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: number one recruit l A went to Clemson and as

727
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: a scout told me this week, he's like the biggest

728
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: difference between Alabama and Clemson because they have been kind

729
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: of paralleled each other the last and you could probably

730
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: throw Ohio State in here, though he does the South,

731
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: so I can't speak to the way Ohio State runs

732
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: their program. And clearly they've transitioned a little bit right

733
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: from urban to Ryan Day, so it might be a

734
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: little bit different. But Clemson, Alabama, same head coach for

735
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: the last decade, produce a ton of pros when national championships,

736
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy type guys, a ton of first rounders, like

737
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: they're they're just they're they're basically the same program right now.

738
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: One's in the a SEC, one's in the SEC. He said,

739
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: one's a factory and the others a family. Clearly, Bama

740
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: is the factory and Clemson is the family. That's why E. T.

741
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: N went back to school, That's why Trevor Lawrence, while

742
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: he's not going to go back to school has talked

743
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: about it. It's fun to play there. It's it's not

744
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 1: not fun to play at Alabama because winning is fun.

745
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: So one thing you learned when you're involved in athletics,

746
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: the goal is to win. Not every day is fun.

747
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: Life is hard, right, Like everything in life, whether it's

748
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: your relationship, whether it's your business, whether you're on a team, like,

749
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: it's not always easy. And usually when you get to

750
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: the wherever you want to go and said situation, if

751
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: it's a little harder to get there, it actually makes

752
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: it that much more enjoyable. It's like the one time

753
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: a year you see Saban smile, actually it's usually two

754
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: times a year. It's usually after the SEC championship and

755
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: then if he wins the national championship, Dabbo I would

756
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: say a little more consistently smiles. He enjoys beating Boston College.

757
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: He enjoys winning something. Now you can say Saban, actually

758
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years he's got a little older.

759
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: It does feel like takes it in a little bit more.

760
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: But this guy, as long as Dabbo stays there, and

761
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be rumors the next couple of years of

762
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: Dabble leaving. NFL teams are gonna come after him. Who

763
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: knows what the Jets if they come after Dabbo. But

764
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: if he stays there and just this guy plays, whether

765
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: he plays well against Notre Dame or not, I I

766
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: just think it's safe to say we're looking at the

767
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: number one pick in a couple of years. Time for

768
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: a little three for the money and uh I came

769
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: to a screeching halt last week. I gave away three

770
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: picks and a bonus pick. None of them hit. Now,

771
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: depending on where you took the over for the over

772
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: under Packers, uh Texans, I got it at fifty one.

773
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: It was fifty because the final score is twenty or

774
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: excuse me, Packers Vikings first time they played seventy seven points.

775
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, the over is gonna hit with ease. Final

776
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: scores two not a math major, but that's fifty. I

777
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: had the number of fifty one. Didn't hit. Niners, didn't cover, Titans,

778
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: didn't even win. I mean, obviously the Niners lost too,

779
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: but the Titans were a heavy favorite loss to the Bengals.

780
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: Thank God for the Steelers. I was fifteen and seven

781
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: now I'm sixteen and eleven, so we want to stay

782
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: above five. Here's what I did. The NFL slate is

783
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: actually kind of tough this week. I was just going

784
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: through the lines and it was just I mean, I

785
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: laughed out loud. The Steelers who were playing at Dallas.

786
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, denucis out, uh what's his name? Almost called

787
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: him Donald Dalton has corona. He has a concussion and

788
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: he has corona, so he can't even play. Might not matter.

789
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean he I don't know even healthy, if he's

790
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: any good. They're starting Cooper Rush. They are a fourteen

791
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: point favorite on the road, the Steelers against Cowboys. If

792
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: I would have told you in the middle of August,

793
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: what do you think the line is gonna be Pittsburgh

794
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: at Dallas. If I would have told you Steelers minus fourteen,

795
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: you would have been like, oh my god, is did

796
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: McCarthy quit? That's a disaster. Now I understand it. The

797
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Steelers one of the best teams in the league, if

798
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: not the best. They're undefeated. Cowboys and shambles. Steelers can score,

799
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys can't play defense. But man, that that line is

800
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: pretty big. I'm gonna go listen. I gotta stick to

801
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: my West Coast ruse. I'm gonna pick to start off

802
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: with a Pack twelve game. They're kicking off, and one

803
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: of the big conversations in the conference has been that

804
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: they get lost. It's cool for me on the West

805
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: coast that packed twelve night games sometimes a good game.

806
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: It'd be like Arizona State USC sometimes kickoff at seven

807
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: pm Pacific Standard time. Now, if you live on the

808
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: East Coast and you're not like twenty eight out of

809
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: the bars, you probably go to bed because you Sunday,

810
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: you got kids, You get up, watch football, do whatever.

811
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: But you're not staying up till midnight or one o'clock

812
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: in the morning to watch these games. That includes voters,

813
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: that includes the college football landscape. When you play in

814
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: the day, especially the morning, like that. ESPN Fox kickoff

815
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: at nine am is a big deal. We all see it.

816
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: NFL people, media people, fans. The super super late game

817
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: for the Pack twelve, they get lost in the shuffle,

818
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: so they have volunteered to play nine am kickoffs. Right.

819
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: Typically the Fox kickoff game is a big ten game.

820
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: It's been Ohio State, it's been Michigan, Penn State, like

821
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: those type games. I'm talking regular Fox This Saturday it's

822
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: Arizona State and the Fighting Herb Edwards Sun Devils at USC.

823
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: That's the game on Fox at nine am kickoff in

824
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: l A. Which it's gonna be a little weird to see,

825
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: but a lot of people are gonna watch it, so

826
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: I I commend the Pack twelve for doing it. I

827
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw, but the FS one pregame show,

828
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: which is good, Urban Meyer is really good on TV.

829
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: Matt I'm a big Matt liner. Guy Brady Quinn, very

830
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: good looking dude. Reggie Bush, favorite college football player ever.

831
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: That that that's a great crew. They all got Corona

832
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: that the crew like I don't even know who's doing

833
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: the pregame show, things like Cissa, like Terry bradshow. But

834
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: it's a lead into this game and what I don't understand.

835
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: And I got some buddies that work at different Pack

836
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: twelve programs. They've all said Arizona State is a little

837
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: bit of a sleeper to win the conference this year.

838
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: Arizona State is getting ten and a half points on

839
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: the road. It's not really that far. Scottsdale to l

840
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: A is like an hour flight. Arizona State ten and

841
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: a half morning game. Herm Edwards gets up at like

842
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: three am I like, I like Arizona State to win

843
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: this game out right, but I definitely like him to cover.

844
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: I definitely like him. That's a lot of points. Broncos

845
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: plus four the Denver Broncos. I didn't even write down

846
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: their opponent. I got this is I'm screwing up this segment. Now,

847
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: who the hell are the Denver Broncos plan I saw

848
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: plus four and I immediately loved it. The Denver Broncos.

849
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 1: This is uh, this is bad work on on my part.

850
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: Or playing the Atlanta Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons are trash.

851
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: They are terrible. Their defense is awful. Last week he

852
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: saw the Denver Broncos play the Los Angeles Chargers. Now

853
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: the game was outdoors, but one thing is clear. The

854
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos have a lot of offensive firepower. Fant is

855
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: really talented, Philip Lindsay's really good running back, Jerry Judy

856
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: at any moment can take a ball to the house.

857
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Andrew lock is an explosive player. They actually are much

858
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: more built as an offense to play indoors and they

859
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: are outdoors. They have a ton of team speed on

860
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: offense and defensively. They're not bad. They actually, statistically in

861
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: a lot of the major cab of gories are pretty good.

862
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: Here's what I know about the Falcons. They are not

863
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: good on defense. I just think the free they just

864
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: lose a lot. I'm getting four points with a team

865
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: coming off a pretty big win. Who's actually now three

866
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: and four. I like the Broncos plus four in this game.

867
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: This is probably my favorite game on the board this week,

868
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: and it would be a game that if I didn't

869
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: bet it, you probably couldn't pay me to watch it.

870
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: But from a gambling standpoint, there's a lot of value here.

871
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: The New York Giants have been really really I mean

872
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: they have played their ass off since that Week two

873
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: games or I guess a Week three game against the

874
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: Niners when they got blown out and they got destroyed.

875
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: But the New York Giants the last three or four games,

876
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: every single game they are in, and they could have

877
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: easily won that Monday night football game. They play really

878
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: hard on defense. They actually got some good players on defense.

879
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: Brad Berry has been a really good corner this year.

880
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez is a tackling machine. Their front four is

881
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: pretty solid and they can stop the run. Offensively, like

882
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: they do have some weapons. Now, Daniel Jones can be

883
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: hit or miss, but I think we all kind of

884
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: agree that Daniel Joe is pretty talented. The Giants are

885
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: getting two and a half points at the road against

886
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: the Washington football team. I'll take those two and a

887
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: half points all the game long. We're seeing Joe Judge,

888
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: and I see that some Giants fans DM me like,

889
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: I think Joe jug is pretty good. I go, yeah,

890
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: I agree, Like maybe I overreacted to him making coaches

891
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: run in training camp because his team well prepared, they

892
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: play hard. They're not that, you know, just in terms

893
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: of talent, like they shouldn't be winning that many games,

894
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: and a big element of that might be the quarterback,

895
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: but that they do have some guy, they're the best

896
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: player towards a c L. Second week of the season,

897
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: I love the Giants plus two and a half. So

898
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: I got Arizona State plus ten and a half, I

899
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: got the Broncos plus four, and I got the Giants

900
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: plus two and a half. Okay, let's get to the

901
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: little thing we call the middlecoff mail back at John

902
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram handle just my name Middlecoff K

903
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: a uff. Unlike the Eagles and Fresno State, they give

904
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: me name plates with only one F. Even though it's

905
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: happened a long time ago. You never forget people misspelled

906
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: my name now in fair us to them. My last

907
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: name isn't Williams or Smith or something. I mean, it's

908
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 1: a little middle coff. You know it's not normal two f's,

909
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: But just wanted a little respect. Got none at Fresno

910
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: State or at UH with the Eagles. Actually, I think

911
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: I had a radio office too when I worked in

912
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: downtown San Francisco. Didn't spell my name right either, So

913
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: it's just no one spells my goddamn name right. I

914
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. I just get one F,

915
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: but I spell with two f's on my Instagram handle.

916
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Slide up in those d m s. Also, if you haven't,

917
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: just remind you subscribe to the podcast away from Collins

918
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: feed three and out Spotify, Apple iTunes. If you do

919
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: Apple iTunes, leave a review. I'd greatly appreciate it, Stitcher,

920
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: wherever you listen. I've been watching Ben this year and

921
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: he looks good, but I've seen some passes where it

922
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: looks like someone hit him in the funny bone. Last week,

923
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: I saw a trainer massaging his elbow. Saw that too.

924
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: Do you think as it gets colder his elbow could

925
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: become a problem. I'll never forget having Carson palmern last

926
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: year and he said the one thing is as you

927
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: get into your late thirties, He's like, when I got reinjured,

928
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: everything is just slower, slower to rehab. And then even

929
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: when you're healthy, your your body doesn't always feel right.

930
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: Ben is a weathered weather dude, right, he has taken

931
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: a physical punishment over the years. I don't remember off

932
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: the top of my head a guy with that injury,

933
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: the torn but it's basically a baseball injury. Uh see

934
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: to me, like he looks dramatically older, just his movements,

935
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: and maybe he has the last couple of years. You know,

936
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: he didn't really play last year, so you'd have to

937
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: go to two thousand eighteen, Like two years when you

938
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: go thirty six to thirty eight, Like that's a pretty

939
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: big swing in age for a guy that's bigger. You know,

940
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: his movements, like his athleticism is average at best now

941
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: and he's really gonna have to hang his hat on,

942
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: which he did last week. Is just making big time throws.

943
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: Now he plays in a cold environment, right Pittsburgh, it's

944
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: gonna be freezing cold the next couple of months. I

945
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: guess he's already got the Ballton More game out of

946
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: the way. The Browns game, I'm pretty sure it was

947
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh off the top of my head. Let's just

948
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: bring up their schedule. I think it's something to keep

949
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind for sure. Now, I

950
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's like arms gonna rerip, but clearly, you

951
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: know they say on Tommy John guys it takes a

952
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: year to fully get back, and they don't have a

953
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: year in the sense of they're trying to win it

954
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: this year. So let's just look at their games. Cowboys

955
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: this week, their fourteen point favorite indoors at home versus

956
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: the Bengals. That could be really cold eleven fifteen at

957
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: the Jacks, Okay gets a warm game. Ravens at home,

958
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: Washington at home warm warm or excuse me not warm,

959
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: cold cold at the Bills, really cold at the Bengals, cold,

960
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Colts at home, cold at Brown's cold. I'm not a doctor,

961
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: just a state school guy, but we're gonna find out.

962
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: It's definitely something to keep an eye on and if

963
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: you're a Steeler fan, it's probably the one thing that

964
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: would make you a little bit nervous. If he stays healthy,

965
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: you have a chance to win it all. If something

966
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: happens to him, and I think all you guys would

967
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: all agree, you're screwed. My sister is a non football

968
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: fan and wanted to keep listening. Wow, that's impressive. Tell

969
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: her I like her style. Personal opinion. Do you think

970
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: Carson leads the Eagles to another Super Bowl? Uh? Well

971
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: not this year. I mean their team is not gonna

972
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: be good enough. But I think he well he never

973
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: let him to Super Bowl, right, I mean he put

974
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: him in position to get to one and then fest

975
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: led him to Super Bowl. So I guess your question

976
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: is can he lead them to another Super Bowl? Can

977
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: he lead them to his first Super Bowl? I think

978
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 1: he's talented enough now the version that we've seen this year,

979
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: of course not. He's played like shit. Now I've supported him.

980
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: He's playing with fulgum, he's playing with Greg Ward, he's

981
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: playing with Billy Scott or Boston Scott like he. Brian Westbrook,

982
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens and Deshan Jackson ain't walking through that door. Actually,

983
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: I think DeShawn did walk through that door for a

984
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: game and then he hurt broke his ankle and now

985
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: he's out again or high ankle spraying. So his season

986
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: is over now, Sean, is he even on the team anymore?

987
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: Hurts major injury. I think you gotta give him somewhat

988
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: of a past this year. I know people hate to

989
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: hear it, and Max Kellerman thinks he sucks. I wouldn't

990
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: give up on him. I know this. Niners. We take

991
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: him out west and heartbeat you guys want to get

992
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: rid of them. I know they don't, So I think

993
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: he can't. But this offseason, because more than likely they're

994
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: gonna be a one and done right, they're gonna win

995
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: the division and then they're gonna get bounced in the

996
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: first round unless they get a bunch of people back,

997
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: but still probably not. He needs to do some self

998
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: reflection of how to not turn the ball over enough,

999
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: because he makes big plays. He makes sweet throws, win

1000
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: the games on the lines, how they win some of

1001
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: their games, and if they get to seven eight wins,

1002
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep making some of those throws and some

1003
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: of those plays. He needs to find a way to

1004
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: not turn the ball over enough. I'm not Bill Walsh

1005
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: Randy Reid, but he needs to just talk to the

1006
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: right people about how to play within himself. Look forward

1007
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: to listening twice a week, especially on Fridays when you

1008
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: give your picks. I'm from the Bay Area as well,

1009
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: has been following you since your radio days. My question

1010
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: is regarding Jimmy Garoppolo. Could you see John Lynch in

1011
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Parague get creative this offseason? With no guaranteed money left

1012
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: on Jimmy's deal, could the forty Niners approach Jimmy to

1013
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: restructure a deal, ask him to take a pay cut

1014
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: where instead of twenty seven mill per year, they go

1015
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: to a two year deal around seventeen to twenty mill

1016
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: per year and some guarantees. That's that way they can

1017
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: evaluate Jimmy at least for another year at a lower

1018
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: cap number. I think Jimmy would want to stay beside

1019
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: the other team beside New England would trade for him,

1020
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: beside what other team would trade for inside New England

1021
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: at his current cap number. Sign him as a free

1022
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: agent outright, especially if he spend the rest of the

1023
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: year on injured reserve. It could also buy the forty

1024
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: Niners another year or two to evaluate the quarterback position

1025
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: and maybe even draft someone in the first or second

1026
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: round like Zach Willyatt Wilson thoughts, the Niners have made

1027
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: some catastrophic mistakes the last year, and they had to

1028
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: do this because they were in a little bit of

1029
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: a pinch financially. But they gave d Ford a huge

1030
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: restructure and it cost him dearly. I get what you're saying,

1031
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: but I think under no circumstances can you guarantee Jimmy

1032
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: more money. His best asset right now is his contract,

1033
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: and you can cut him. I think it's up till

1034
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: June one. Actually for him, it might be April one,

1035
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: before the draft, so you would have to pick up

1036
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: his option and guarantee some money. But just knowing the

1037
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: way and knowing, you know, following John and Parrague and

1038
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: Kyle and knowing people in that organization, they're not going

1039
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: to do that to me. They're either going to if

1040
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: they can upgrade with a free agent guy or a trade,

1041
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: they'll do that and cut Jimmy. If they can't, Jimmy

1042
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: over return at his twenty six million number, and they

1043
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: will draft a guy really high, and it'll kind of

1044
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: be an Alex Smith Patrick Mahomes situation where it's different

1045
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 1: and they would, you know, do backflips off the Bay

1046
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: Bridge to get their Patrick Mahomes. But that that, to

1047
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: me is what I envisioned. I I just see no

1048
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: way possible that you guarantee you can't. One thing we've

1049
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: been talking a lot about in my other podcast, and

1050
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about Jimmy Garoppolo. The best attribute

1051
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo currently has as I'm recording this on November five,

1052
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: is that you don't owe him any money and you

1053
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: basically can get out of his contract whenever you want.

1054
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: It's the one thing like Jared Goffe, for example, Can

1055
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: you imagine if Jared Goff was on Jimmy Garoppolo's contract,

1056
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: The question would be, is Sean mcveighan to move off

1057
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: from Jared Goff this offseason? Can he find a younger replacement?

1058
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: Can they draft a guy? But we don't waste time

1059
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: with that conversation because they can't. He makes so much

1060
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: money that you're stuck with him, and even I don't

1061
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: think that would necessarily be a conversation with Carson Wentz.

1062
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: But the reality is, check his contract he's going nowhere.

1063
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, all these guys, they just Kirk Cousins. You're

1064
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: stuck with these guys, so you gotta make it work.

1065
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy garoppol You're not stuck with anything. Now. It's easy

1066
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: for me to say, just cut him and figure it out,

1067
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: because we saw when they tried to figure it out

1068
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: before they ended up with Brian Hoyer and c. J.

1069
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: Beathard and they were one and nine. The team sucked,

1070
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: So I I think they're in somewhat of a predicament,

1071
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: though it's a positive predicament because his contract. You can

1072
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: just at the end of the day, if you gotta

1073
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: cut him and move on, you gotta cut him and

1074
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: move on. I got a lot of forty dis questions.

1075
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Fortys trading for Sam

1076
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: Donald this offseason? Would he be a better fit than Garoppolo. Uh,

1077
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: he'd be a better fit than Garoppolo in the sense

1078
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: of he's way cheaper, he's way younger, and in theory

1079
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: he's still moldible. You know, Jimmy Garoppolos, but twenty nine

1080
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: years old. Sam Donald has just been through the ringer,

1081
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: but he's I think he came in the league at

1082
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: twenty one, so he's twenty four years old. Now, you

1083
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: would only have one more year of the cheap contract

1084
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: with Sam Donald. Next year you have to pick up

1085
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: the fifth year option. Really, you have to pick up

1086
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: the fifth year option when you trade it for him.

1087
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: So it is a little complicated. It's not like you

1088
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: get Sam Donald with two years remaining on his four

1089
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: year guaranteed contract and then in a year you have

1090
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: to pick up his fifth year option. You have to

1091
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: pick up the fifth year option before you play the season. Now,

1092
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: let's just look at it. Logically, Sam Donald, they get

1093
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: the number one pick, they're gonna take Trevor Lawrence, who

1094
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: is trading for Sam Donald. Let's just look at some

1095
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: logical teams. Patriots, they would never trade Sam Donald to

1096
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Colts, I think they would be interested

1097
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: in probably trade their first round pick, assuming Chris Ballard

1098
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: likes him, and I think I hear Colin talk enough.

1099
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: We know Collins Boys or Chris Ballard. I think it's

1100
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: fair to say they would be interested. The Steelers. Now,

1101
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: if the Steelers win this year, unless Roethlisberger goes Elway,

1102
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: what do you think Roethlisberger is gonna do. He's gonna

1103
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: come back. Now, if you're the Steelers, would you just

1104
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: give your first round pick and just have one year

1105
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: behind Roethlisberger wouldn't make a lot of sense because Roethlisberger

1106
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: makes big money. Donald, even though he doesn't make huge money,

1107
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: was still the third pick in the draft, and you

1108
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: have to pick up his fifth year option. But it

1109
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: would be somewhat of a contingency plan. Maybe let Donald

1110
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: take a year, take a deep breath, beer back up.

1111
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: But ideally, if you trade for Sam Donald, you want

1112
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: to play Sam Donald. So I wonder if the Steelers

1113
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: would be as aggressive doing that as they probably should be,

1114
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: because in the perfect world, they like, if you're a

1115
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: Steeler fan, you win the Super Bowl, Roethlisberger retires, and

1116
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: you like, go get Sam Donald, and then you got

1117
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: your young quarterback. But you could argue, like Roethlisberger is

1118
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: a better player Sam Donald right now, and he probably is.

1119
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: But I think Sam Donald will look pretty good with

1120
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and then I think the Niners would definitely

1121
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: be in the mix. So yeah, I mean, with the

1122
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: Niners give their first round pick, I doubt it. But

1123
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: it's up to Kyle. He's the quarterback guru New York

1124
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: Giants fan here? How do scouts and coaches around the

1125
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: league view Evan Ingram? The media and game day coverage

1126
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: seemed to think he's an e leite tight end who

1127
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: needs the ball more and is one of the better

1128
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: ones in the league. The I T S shows me

1129
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: that he's built like a great athlete, but overrated talent wise.

1130
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: He routinely misses blocks and too many catchable balls. Am

1131
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: I off base here? Side note? Can you provide a

1132
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: word of optimism for Giants fan going forward? Even if possible? Uh?

1133
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: If even possible? Yeah, listen, I think Joe Judge is

1134
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: doing a good job. Clearly their team is pointed in

1135
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: the right direction in terms of physicality, in terms of preparation,

1136
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: like they show up ready to play and they're flying

1137
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: around hitting people in the mouth. They just lack some talent.

1138
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: I think it was a Pittsburgh Steeler scout, and this

1139
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: would make sense. Maybe it was someone told me this

1140
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: that a team that he had worked for when I

1141
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: worked in Philly had this. Maybe it was Bill Polian.

1142
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: I forget exactly who it was, but when I was

1143
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: in the league, someone told me this, or someone told

1144
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: me that they were told by a GM, and the

1145
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: GM was really good. The franchise, whoever the franchise was

1146
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: at the time, was like one of the best teams

1147
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: in the league. So it was probably the cold stir

1148
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers. It wasn't the Patriots. They had a philosophy

1149
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: if you had bad hands, they did not funk with you,

1150
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: and it was more toward wide receiver. But I think

1151
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: it works for tight ends too, because Evan Ingram was

1152
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: right a first round pick. Now, my philosophy has always been, like,

1153
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, I can live with guys with questionable hands

1154
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: if you make place like if you'r dk Metcalfolic, I

1155
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: can live with some drops, right like I I Terrell

1156
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: Owens didn't have great hands. Vernon Davis with the Niners

1157
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: freakap did not have great hands. You know, Julio Jones

1158
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: coming out of college. You know, add some drops. I

1159
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: can't live with drops if you're like Keenan Allen or

1160
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: Davante or like the great right runners, and typically Keenan

1161
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: Allen Davanta like they got the best hands. Right. Jarvis

1162
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: by slot receivers like to me, Jarvis sometimes drops the

1163
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: ball a little too much for me, But the point

1164
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: of this. In the draft room, if drops were an issue,

1165
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: and I think this is true for some good teams,

1166
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: it's a nonstarter. We are not drafting you. I don't

1167
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: care how talented you are, because Evan Ingram elite athlete.

1168
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: You watch a move and you're like, God, this guy

1169
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: six runs like a deer, I mean, can fly rant

1170
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: you see it on tape, and then the ball hits

1171
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: his hands hit the ground. And I haven't watched every

1172
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: Giant snap this year, but I've seen three or four

1173
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: drops that should have been catches. That Travis Kelsey, that

1174
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: George Kittle, that Darren Waller, that those guys catch. So

1175
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: I I think sometimes like if you have questionable hands,

1176
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: you just become kind of average even though you get open.

1177
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you didn't draft

1178
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: Evn Ingram to block, so I like, I don't. I

1179
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: don't crush guys like Evan Ingram Zach Hurts Like if

1180
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: they don't want to block, they're not blockers like that,

1181
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: that ain't their thing. Like they're basically wide receivers, which

1182
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: gets back to my point of it's hard to be

1183
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: a great wide receiver if you drop the ball and

1184
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: right now is he overrated talent wise? Might be fair

1185
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: to say because he drops the ball? Is it just me?

1186
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: You're does Don Brady look like he's having less fun

1187
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: than he did in New England? Seemed like he had

1188
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: he had more energy on the sideline and was less

1189
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: piste off and MOPy as a Patriot, Well, they won consistently,

1190
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: so they and let's be real, they beat the ship

1191
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: out of a lot of people. Like, just think about

1192
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots over the last just decade. How many games

1193
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: do you put up? Look up? And like the Patriots

1194
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: were a double digits. It has been a challenge in Tampa,

1195
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: which it should have been. New offense, new coaches, new teammates,

1196
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: change his hard changing as a quarterback, Like if you

1197
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: get a divorce or break up with someone and get

1198
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: a new girlfriend, usually the early part of that relationship

1199
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: is the best part. Right You're hanging out having a

1200
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: bunch of sex, You're kicking it. I mean, it's great.

1201
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: And then as the relationship gets more real, it gets

1202
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: more serious. It's it's actually the opposite. As a quarterback,

1203
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: the honeymoon phase in theory is like later, like at

1204
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: the end of the season, super Bowl or the second season.

1205
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: Typically that first season. I remember, I'll never forget Matt

1206
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: Ryan won the m v P went to the Super

1207
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: Bowl a year too. After the first year, He's like,

1208
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna go to Dan Quinn and tell him

1209
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't work with Kyle Shanahan. They had to have

1210
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: like an offseason where Matt Ryan and Kyle Shanahan just

1211
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: like took a weekend together and got beers their button heads.

1212
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have an established quarterback and established coach,

1213
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady's not just an established quarterback, right, He's

1214
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time. Bruce arians never won

1215
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, but I think we all acknowledge he's

1216
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: a really, really good coach. There's gonna be a huge

1217
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: learning process. Then you have all these new players, you

1218
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: have a new playbook, you have a new offensive line.

1219
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: No honeymoon phase. It's actually the intense phase, especially when

1220
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: you factor in Corona, no offseason, no training camp, or

1221
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: I guess you had training camp, but no preseason games

1222
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: in training camp wasn't normal training camp. So that phase,

1223
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: like in normal life when you usually get a new

1224
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: job or get a new girlfriend, it's the most fun time.

1225
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's easier, it's cool, it's all new.

1226
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: When you're Tom Brady, Like his standard is super Bowl bust.

1227
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: Like there, think how many people we can count on

1228
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: hand that they're They're standard in sports is championship or bust?

1229
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: Right happens in college, I'd say Nick Saban for sure, Dabbo.

1230
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: Now that even Ryan Day, Like if urban Meyer was

1231
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: still the coaching Ohouse State, I'd say urban Meyer. But

1232
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: I can't put Ryan Day in that category though the

1233
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State program is, but not Ryan Day. In football,

1234
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: it was always Belichick and Brady. That was their standard.

1235
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl bust hell. I'd even say the Chiefs with

1236
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Andy. I don't even think you can say

1237
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: that yet. Now if they win another one, then you

1238
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: can be like, Okay, that's the new standard. But like

1239
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: with Belichick, that's his standard. His team is not good enough.

1240
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Like Tom did not go to Tampa to play in

1241
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He went to win another super Bowl, period,

1242
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. And I think when like

1243
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, it was always big picture. He was

1244
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: there for the long haul. This is kind of a

1245
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: little short, short term deal, you know. I mean, it's

1246
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: really just get in get out like I I vacationed.

1247
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: Vacation would be strong. I spent a weekend UH with

1248
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: a friend of a girlfriend. I've become buddies with him too,

1249
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: and he's he's a dominant little real estate house flipper

1250
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: and he crushes it. And he was telling me about it.

1251
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: It's really remarkable how they go in, they go out,

1252
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: they flip it, they make their you know margin, hell,

1253
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: he says, depending on you know, in and out sixty days.

1254
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's just that's their goal. That's Brady's two

1255
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: year contract. In and out. I mean, it's just and

1256
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: his goal is I would say, in those two years

1257
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: to at least win Super Bowl. Definitely to get there.

1258
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: Anything else at massive failure firm. The philip rivers, Like

1259
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs with the India, It's cool. That's good.

1260
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: Like that's that's a win. They're the Colts. They didn't

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs last year, they make the playoffs this year,

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Speaker 1: win a game, give him a standing ovation, Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs winning a playoff game ain't good enough.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's part of it to stress the

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Speaker 1: intensity that was always there in New England. But his

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Speaker 1: teams were always good and they were dominating the division

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Speaker 1: was easy. Just it's hard, and I think you see

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Speaker 1: it on his face, like the challenge. Should the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: start thinking about Trevor Lawrence, Maybe they should trade Vander

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Speaker 1: Rash or some of the receivers to get more picks

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Speaker 1: to maybe move up to the number one pick. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I think the fact the doc was asking

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Speaker 1: for premium money, premium money when he clearly is not

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Speaker 1: elite Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers and Jerry pan zeke early when,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, he hasn't done much really f them

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Speaker 1: over in getting premium free agents. I think the problem is,

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Speaker 1: man is you could have vander esh you could have Gallop,

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Speaker 1: you could have whoever picks. The Jets ain't trade and

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. They're gonna draft Trevor Lawrence and they'll trade

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. So it's not even uh, it's not even

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Speaker 1: an option. When you get the first pick with an

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, with the Lebron James, you know, with Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: you just picked the player. You know, just I don't

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Speaker 1: give a ship what you offer me. I want the player,

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Speaker 1: and that's ultimately what's gonna happen. Lifelong Packers fan, but

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Speaker 1: watching us lose the Vikings this past weekend just seems

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Speaker 1: to further my point that we don't really need a

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Speaker 1: number two wide receiver. We need some defensive adjustments, whether

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Speaker 1: that be the defensive coordinator, the player's effort, whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be. I can see the league seeing this team

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Speaker 1: as the same one as last year if moves are

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Speaker 1: not made by Tuesday. What are your overall thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Packers. Well, I'm recording this part before the Thursday

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Speaker 1: night game. Oh, who knows what's gonna happen. Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess you already know what's happened, and technically I know

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Speaker 1: what happened, but I'm recording this about four thirty Pacific time,

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Speaker 1: because you know I don't like stand up till midnight

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Speaker 1: on Thursday nights. After I watched the game. I think

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Speaker 1: my overall take on the Packers is this, You're right,

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01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: their offense when everyone's healthy is fine. That ain't the issue.

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Speaker 1: There's a softness, and there always has been a softness

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Speaker 1: to this. Aaron Rodgers Packers. It was the reason when

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Speaker 1: they played San Francisco with their best teams, they won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and then eleven and twelve, I mean

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Speaker 1: they had great teams and the Niners hit him in

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Speaker 1: the mouth. They were just more physical than them. Then

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Speaker 1: they lost the NFC Championship game that they should have won.

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Speaker 1: Part of that was McCarthy was a puss, you know,

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Speaker 1: kicking the field goals and not going for it. And

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Speaker 1: then a couple of the last couple of years, even

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Speaker 1: before the Packers fell off a clip, they just they've

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Speaker 1: been soft on defense, and you watch them like they

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Speaker 1: get they're not a very good run defense. And when

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Speaker 1: you don't have a good run defense. In the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: football slows down. We see some shootouts, but that game

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Speaker 1: that you saw against the Minnesota Vikings two, that is

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Speaker 1: much more like a playoff game, right, just running the ball,

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Speaker 1: slow the boat game down. Dalvin Cook is a playoff

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Speaker 1: level player and he annihilated him. And you look at

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Speaker 1: the type teams they would play in the playoffs, Well,

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Speaker 1: you'd get an Alvin Kamara, You'd get the Rams who

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Speaker 1: want to run the hell out of the ball. You'd

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Speaker 1: get Tampa Bay who has Leonard four Nett and Ronald

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Speaker 1: Johnson look really good, and Brady who's very and they're

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Speaker 1: just very physical say what you want about the sayings

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Speaker 1: like they are a physical team. Tampa's a physical team.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are pretty physical team. The Cardinals aren't really

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Speaker 1: And I think the Packers would beat him. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be physical to win. And what do I say about

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Speaker 1: winning the super Bowl? It would be my question mark,

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Speaker 1: Like to win a super Bowl, you need a good

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Speaker 1: defense and a great quarterback. Obviously Rogers is a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl level player. You can win the super Bowl with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers breaking news. Can you win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with the Packers defense? I would say no. I mean

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Speaker 1: last year the Niners eviscerated them in the playoff game,

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Speaker 1: ran the I mean just destroy. It was embarrassing. They

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Speaker 1: got embarrassed. Now. I don't know, like if there's a

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Speaker 1: perfect matchup like that to happen again. But the way

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Speaker 1: to beat Aaron Rodgers, and it's happened early in his career,

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Speaker 1: and it happened last year in his career, late in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's just scored so many points that he

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Speaker 1: can't even do anything. Just destroy their defense, make him

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Speaker 1: the non factor. And I think that would be the

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Speaker 1: question mark right now. Is their defense good enough? They

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Speaker 1: didn't make any moves with the trade deadline. I record

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Speaker 1: obviously this after the trade deadline. But he's their defense.

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Speaker 1: Good enough because I'd say right now I couldn't pick

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Speaker 1: him to win the super Bowl with their with their defense.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, godspeed, have a great week. See you.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to the podcast, leave a review, unsubscribed, and subscribe again.

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Speaker 1: Probably helps out. I don't know that's what part of

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Speaker 1: my take you say. I don't even know if that works,

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Speaker 1: but Adios game sa