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Speaker 1: Lute force. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Software Radio Special Operations, Military nails and

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Speaker 1: straight talk with the guys in the community.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to Software Radio. I've met off

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Speaker 2: for a few years, but I'm coming back for the

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Speaker 2: first time, and I think maybe three four years, just

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Speaker 2: to be with my good friend Yergis. Yogis and I

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Speaker 2: met at this Harvard Business School OPM program and I

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Speaker 2: still remember like it was yesterday. Us. I'm sitting in

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Speaker 2: the back of you and he pulled up his phone

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Speaker 2: with the Instagram and it has like my it was

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Speaker 2: either my author page or my Instagram. He's like, this

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Speaker 2: fucking you. I was like, yeah, that's me. He's like,

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Speaker 2: what the fuck? And that was the start of a

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Speaker 2: good friendship.

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Speaker 3: I had to check. I had to check who the

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Speaker 3: you are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Yurgos, you're living in Villenis, Lithuania. I visited

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Speaker 2: you last year in February. I think I came in

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Speaker 2: the the right time of year to visit Lithuania. Maybe

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Speaker 2: not so much, but and his wife or not.

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Speaker 3: I made me get into ice l like you almost died.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, almost. Yeah. Anyway, what what's your impression The

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Speaker 2: first time we met at Harvard.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, how was for me? Was an eye open U.

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Speaker 3: I met so many different people, one of them are

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Speaker 3: it was very great course because you meet all these

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Speaker 3: different people with big businesses, big backgrounds and of course

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Speaker 3: big characters, and everybody is like everybody is like a shark.

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Speaker 3: You know. If usually if usually, you know, a professor

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Speaker 3: asked for opinion, and usually there's like one or two

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Speaker 3: or three hands. It's like everybody want to talk. Everybody

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Speaker 3: has a fucking argument. Everybody has an opinion, you know,

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Speaker 3: and you better make sure that you know, you put

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Speaker 3: your opinion correctly and well and will argumented. So you

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Speaker 3: one of those completely different people because you're coming from

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Speaker 3: completely different background. So it's not that your family was

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Speaker 3: in business or that you went through the traditional you know,

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Speaker 3: working in the corporate and then doing your own business.

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Speaker 3: So you are completely different and I find it interesting

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Speaker 3: enough for me. Yeah, and you know, you've been in

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Speaker 3: the places where I go. You've been for work where

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Speaker 3: I go for leisure, which.

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Speaker 2: Is crazy, which by the way, You're GISTs were fun.

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Speaker 2: He goes to places like North Korea, uh Haiti, Afghanistan,

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Speaker 2: crazy fucking places Central Africa. I don't want to go

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Speaker 2: to these places unless I have a radio and a

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Speaker 2: direct link to aircraft with the big bomb in the sky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Tamer, but yeah, we we got to be friends.

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Speaker 2: And also you're one of the few crazy enough to

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Speaker 2: get up at five in the morning and meet me

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Speaker 2: at the swimming pool for the seal workout, which good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I realized that seals can swim because I

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Speaker 3: too big, you know, because I've been swimming for ten

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Speaker 3: that swimming session. I never saw that session like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, because we swim, we get out, we do

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Speaker 3: was very dynamic, very powerful, very exhausting. For me. Was

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Speaker 3: something new and well, I can confirm they teach you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good. That was a good workout. Man.

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Speaker 2: But that that was typical seal workout right, like it's

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Speaker 2: good because many people they talked to talk and they

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Speaker 3: And I remember I was sick and I remember, I

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Speaker 2: Well I was sick before, like the week before. I

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Speaker 2: had the sort of throat the cough, and I got

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Speaker 2: over it. And but yeah, that's the way, right. You

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Speaker 3: No, I took a chance. I took a chance, and

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Speaker 3: you just because you know, you promised, I promised, but

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Speaker 3: me a completely new way of looking at the issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good, good worker. So we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about a lot a few things today. I

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Speaker 2: was going to tell you my stem cell story, which

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Speaker 2: we can do at anytime, but but also I was,

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Speaker 2: you know, we became friends, stayed in touch, and I

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Speaker 2: was watching on your Instagram that you made these crazy

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Speaker 2: videos and we're we just got the edited videos from

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Speaker 2: your assistant Olia. So these will be up on SOFTWAREP

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Speaker 2: on the main site, and I think we'll post one

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Speaker 2: location a week, Haiti, North Korea, Afghanistan. So really excited

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Speaker 2: to get those videos up because you have some amazing footage.

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Speaker 2: As soon as I saw this on Instagram, I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: that's something our audience will definitely like.

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Speaker 2: I would love to get into a few highlights of

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Speaker 2: those stories, but yeah, we can. We can start however

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Speaker 2: and we talk about it, talk about the stem cells after. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can talk a bit of the of the locations.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know which one is interesting for you.

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Speaker 3: You know, for many people, many locations are interesting, but

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Speaker 3: I guess North Korea could be one of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, let's let's maybe just do the highlights each one,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So listen, I prefer Afghanistan every day anytime versus

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Speaker 3: that very big impression. I love the trip I'd never

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Speaker 3: I had a rough time coming to North Korea. I

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Speaker 3: we were like five of us, so we're after North Korea.

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Speaker 3: It was an exclusive tour just for five people. And

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Speaker 3: I said, usually in the shitty places like that, I

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Speaker 3: it's bad. And they say, yeah, listen, but there is

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Speaker 2: Yeahs not flying and every day not career, and and.

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Speaker 3: The and the way and the way. Yeah, there's only

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Speaker 2: And then they take the passport and they keep it

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Speaker 3: It's not about the poster. The poster was the trigger

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Speaker 3: to you, to you, you stay a little bit not good,

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Speaker 2: No, it's crazy. Even said, I was doing stem cell

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Speaker 2: I think it's fucking insane. It's insanity. But that's again

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Speaker 3: The tunnels our Swiss fucking cheese. So I've been in

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Speaker 2: it's good. We need we need migrant workers. Nobody wants

430
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: to do this kind of work in the US because

431
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: America is very wealthy and a lot of people getting lazy.

432
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: But create a legal path for them to come through,

433
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: document them, collect tax from them, and yeah, make this

434
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: program and punish all those who does, like severely punish

435
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: those who don't play by those rules. And then I

436
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: think you have a better situation because to your point,

437
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: you can't stop it, like the tunnels are there. I mean,

438
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: it's very easy to get across the border.

439
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 3: The border is what two thousand miles.

440
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane, but you have to yeah.

441
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: You know. So. So migration is we have a problem

442
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: in Europe with migration and why we have a migration

443
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: because it's too fast, too big, and completely different culture.

444
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: When Mexicans come to America, at.

445
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: Least they you know, some similar culture.

446
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: Similar culture, right, they are Catholics at least values, they

447
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: have family values similar, right, they understand the value of capital.

448
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: In Europe have a completely different situation. You know, it's

449
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: Islam people. You know, they don't care, they don't want

450
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: to work, they want to get you know, money, they

451
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: want to stab you, they want to rape you. You know,

452
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: it's completely different. So migration, migration is one thing. But

453
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: the drugs, I've seen the trend, the new trend, the

454
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: Fentanil dance.

455
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: It's crazy, man, No, that's sentinel is. It's crazy what

456
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: that drug does. It's like I watched a video of

457
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 2: this guy was his parents were going to get him

458
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 2: the drug because he was so much pain. He had

459
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: already had one leg cut off. Because it's rotting your body.

460
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: It's insanity man like, but yeah, it's and again, like

461
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: you know, that's one of the things part of the

462
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: drug problem in US. You have to educate the people.

463
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: And we have a lot of problems in America right now,

464
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: like it's a it's a great country, but huge problems

465
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: with healthcare, education and this the food supply as well.

466
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: Like the one thing I noticed living in Europe now

467
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: for two years, I struggled to eat the food when

468
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: I go back, even in New York City, I'm eating

469
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: avocado toast and I'm tasting this like gmo and this

470
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: avocado that I'm saying like, yeah, it's nasty. And so

471
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, the one thing I like about the Trump

472
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: appointing the RFK junior is he's like, yeah, we have

473
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: to get rid of this, like no more fast food

474
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: in school. They're feeding the kids' pizza hamburgers. But it's

475
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: all about education. You want us, Like, I think you

476
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: just have to let this current generation. It's as harsh

477
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: as it sounds, like, look, these drug addicts are gone.

478
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: It's already too late. You have to focus on educating

479
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: the young people. One of the greatest things we did

480
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: in America was make smoking not cool, like through marketing

481
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: and government efforts like you you see, like there's not

482
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: a lot of smoking in the US, and you cannot

483
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: smoke in any restaurant. You have to apply the same

484
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: philosophy to do these drugs and educate the young people

485
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 2: or else it's gonna you're gonna keep having this demand

486
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: and people are gonna yeah, people will.

487
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: Exactly no, no, no army, no army will stop the

488
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: drug flow to us. You know, it's all bullshit. You know,

489
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: of course he needs to talk to this. He now

490
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: he pulled the military around the Mexico border. You know

491
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: how the Mexico violence grows like this, Yeah, did and

492
00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: then and then so so you attack a cartel, there

493
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: is like five more bond. Yeah, the one guy, there

494
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: is another. There's a fractions, you know, fractions after fractions.

495
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 3: You know, the Mexico is a huge inequality, huge inequality.

496
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: In Mexico is like one hundred and thirty million people,

497
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty million people, maybe fifty million are

498
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: below poverty line. So whatever the penalty you make twenty

499
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: years for liye, whatever the fuck it is, it's better

500
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: for them to take a chance than die from hunger tomorrow. Right,

501
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: So if we talk about the drug problem, I think

502
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: the only way to fix it is, as you said, education,

503
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: which is long term and probably severe punishment, or legalization. Yeah, cocaine,

504
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: that would be good.

505
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: No, actually I think it's actually not a bad thing,

506
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: like to legalize the same as that we did with

507
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: the marijuana on most stays, because now they see it.

508
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: Fantom or maybe not ye too much addictive people would

509
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: not be ready. But you know Fentanel starty, you know

510
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: how you know that this is American capital. He started

511
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: the company Purdue Oxyquontin opiate.

512
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

513
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they brought it to the market. You know, they

514
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: put contented to the doctors, and doctors start writing prescriptions,

515
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh I have a two fake. Here's some oxy quentin

516
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: for you. Oh I have it. Here's some oxy quonium

517
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: for you. You know. And then when they pulled this

518
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: drug from the market, the empty space and Mexicans came

519
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: in with fentanyl. Yeah.

520
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: And so then these ad opiate addicts had nowhere else

521
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: the turn except the cheap alternative. And I just read

522
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: this new book that it's Revenge of the Tipping Point

523
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: by Gladwell, Malcolm Gladwell. It's amazing book. I highly recommend

524
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: But he talked about the phatanyl on the book and

525
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: the and the Purdue, and he said some states there

526
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: was some weird law where the doctors had to submit

527
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: a triplicate form and get government approval for this type

528
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: of hard prescription drug. These states had no fentanyl problem,

529
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: no opiate problem because the doctor's too lazy to submit

530
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: the trificate to the government for approval because there was

531
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: this like accountability. But the states that had no accountability,

532
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: these doctors are writing like something like two hundred prescriptions

533
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: per day. Yeah it was not, but yeah, it's it's

534
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: it's crazy. But talk to me about the Mexico City

535
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: because I know I was down there living for some months,

536
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: and you went on this tour with the police in

537
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: Mexico City, Like, what was the craziest ship you saw

538
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: in Mexico City or even Mexico.

539
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: So Mexico City, I spent only no good places I spent,

540
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: you know, last time I went to Tipedo on such areas,

541
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: you know, but this time owned in the good places

542
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: because Mexico City was like a base for us to

543
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: you know, the group. The most crazy ship, of course,

544
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: kilograms of cocaine in Nogales, narco corridos, you know, gang

545
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: members talking to gang members looking at the tunnels. Uh

546
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: that that's also fine. But what was sad and and

547
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: and uh and and depressing? Is a capulco? Yeah, a

548
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: copulico for me? You know, I was born in in

549
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 3: Soviet Union, so you know, a copulco. Best times was

550
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: in eighties and I'm born in eighties, you know, so

551
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: is like an imaginary, like an Avatar planet. You know, like, yeah,

552
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: it's a good time, you know, Monroe, Elvis Presley, you know,

553
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: convertible cars, the blue ocean, the nice weather, and now

554
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: it's just funked up. Man, it's after hurricane they had

555
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: last year or one year and a half ago. All

556
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: the front line of the buildings is demolished, is destroyed.

557
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: Every third building is working, some of them are not thinking,

558
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: being like restructured. And you have violence, a lot of violence.

559
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: So you know, we went to patrol police. So you

560
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: see dead bodies, dead bodies, dead bodies like kids, and

561
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 3: of course collateral damage all sad. It's collateral damage. So

562
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: if let's say this Icardo culture came from Columbia, So

563
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: in Colombia they were like, let's say more targeted more,

564
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: you know, more more, more targeted, more how to say,

565
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: more accurate. And when they attack you, you know, it's

566
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: like three bullets, six bullets. Macs in Mexico, they spray bullets,

567
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 3: you know, they spray like twenty rounds, thirty rounds, forty rounds.

568
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: So of course they kill, you know, like kids and

569
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: killed women, and everybody else decides the victim. Victims dead

570
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: for sure, but yeah, also people around it. So so

571
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: you have these dead people in one street, then you

572
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: have like a block or buildings, and then you have

573
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: people patting in another street. That's but people. When I

574
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: say people, it's not like tourists from Europe or from US.

575
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: It's like people from Tepito coming.

576
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: No, man, I have the same I was in Acapoco.

577
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: When was I enough.

578
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: Like my parents, we took the sailing trip and when

579
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: I was turning. I turned sixteen in Acapoco on my parents'

580
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: sailboat and my mom and sister went to California to

581
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: spend time with my grandmother. It was just me and

582
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: my dad and Acapoca Yuch club and I had met

583
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: a couple of guys. They were older than me, and

584
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: they're like told my dad, Hey, we're taking him out

585
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: for birthday. And it was like Acapoca. You imagine, right,

586
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 2: this was.

587
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 6: In the this was in the late eighty and it

588
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: was beautiful, man, it was beautiful. And yeah, I lost

589
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 6: my fucking virginity in Acapoco. I had met this like

590
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 6: twenty eight year.

591
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: Old hot Mexican girl. God it was no guy, no

592
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: guy person. Yeah, but it was amazing, man. And I

593
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: didn't even tell my mom like until years later, but yeah,

594
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: a Capoco was amazing, man. Yeah, what I remember. But

595
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: I also know I have friends that are Mexicans and

596
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: they're like, dude, it's crazy down there, the violence, and

597
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: I just can't even imagine.

598
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, in fact, is now in the most

599
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: Dangerous cities in the world. Top three.

600
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

601
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: Number one Porto Prince obviously, number two, I don't remember

602
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: what the fuck was that, but number three I remember April.

603
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: So if you look at top most dangerous cities in

604
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: the world, and it's probably based on murder per capita,

605
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: so you have probably ten cities from you know, in

606
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 3: top thirty.

607
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: Now I'm looking now Mexico. I mean, this is a

608
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: city is by homicide rate, Mexico has out of the

609
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: top ten, they have eight of the cities Acapoco, Tijuana, Zacateas, Glima,

610
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: like it's all like Mexico has like eight of the

611
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: top ten most dangerous. Then it's Brazil South Africa, but

612
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: they dominate. That's crazy. I didn't realize that.

613
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: So Mexico right now is it's very surreal, you know,

614
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: because because if you go to Hayati, if you go.

615
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: To Porter Prince, Let's talk about Haiti too, because I

616
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: want to talk about the tributes up there.

617
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 3: So let's yeah, if you go to if you go

618
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: to Hyatis, like complete chaos, you know. And yeah, but

619
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: in Mexico you have this, as I told you, you know,

620
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: one street dead bodies, another street people living their life

621
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: and partying. And you know, so there was this dead body.

622
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: We went to you know for this, we went to

623
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: the police. It was eleven am a pm. Not like

624
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: imagine what happens at one, two, three are Yeah, it's

625
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: the pieces. So it was eleven pm Fursday night. So

626
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: there was this dead guy lying on the street. It

627
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: was about thirty or forty you know, army soldiers, maybe

628
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: ten trials whatever the fuck. And there was this like

629
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: street foot Kiosk, you know, fifteen minutes from the dead

630
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: body still operating.

631
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: Probably the soldiers buying that top.

632
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna close the tacos for this dead guy, you

633
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: or tomorrow another dead guy. So this is surreal, you know,

634
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 3: and that brings me also to Haiti. You know, so

635
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to a place where the violence

636
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: will be at the peak, you know that the war

637
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: will be at the peak, and to find such a

638
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: place it's very difficult, you know, because you know how

639
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: it goes, the conflicts, they migrate, right, Yeah, they peak,

640
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: they go down, they scudalize, you know, they move.

641
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: So but also it's tough to go as civilian, right

642
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: like you can. Another challenge is you're basically running a

643
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: business in Lithuania and like, a okay, where how do

644
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: I get to this crazy conflict?

645
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 3: Though? Yeah, well that's a whole you know, another industry.

646
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: There's no like booking dot com. You know, I'm going

647
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: to filter out the most dangerous city and make a

648
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 2: booking at the tour company.

649
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: Well, actually, you know there is like let's say, backstage

650
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: booty dot com is like the whole fixer industry, the

651
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: whole movie industry. Journalist industry, Unite, CNN, BBC industry. You know,

652
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: so you all use the same fixers, you know. So

653
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: I go as a journalist, Yeah, so I want to

654
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: get to the front line, so to find this conflict

655
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: at its peak, Like it's so difficult. Usually have a

656
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: few places in the world like okay, Mexico right now, Tijuana.

657
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 3: But still this is not like a foot blown conflict.

658
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: There's a different type of conflict in Mexico. Gangs kill

659
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: each other. You may get into cross fire, might not.

660
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: You go to Ukraine war, there is a front line, yeah,

661
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: but you know, you come closer, you get killed by

662
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: snype the drone. You don't see any action. Action is

663
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: in Gaza. Cannot get in, you cannot cannot gather. Yeah,

664
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: Gaza cannot get in. And Haiti Haiti is where the

665
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: action happens. And you know that in two weeks or

666
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 3: in amount, you're gonna run. It's gonna be at its peak.

667
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: So so we went there and the city is in

668
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: a chaos. The city is destructed and is destructed not

669
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: And I'm like, who destroy all these buildings because some

670
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: of the buildings looks like they've been destroyed with the

671
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: heavy ammunition, like two gangs do it. He said, no, no,

672
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: police do it. You know, government do it. I'm like,

673
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: where the fuck they did it?

674
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: You know.

675
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: So if if they lose the war with the gang

676
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: and the local police have to retreat, they don't leave

677
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: anything behind. So gang doesn't have a place, you know,

678
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 3: to kidnap people and to live and everything. So they

679
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 3: destroy everything, you know. So gangs are destroyed the city,

680
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: fucking police and military destroy everybody's destroying everything, you know.

681
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: And I spoke to these guys. I spoke to NGO

682
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 3: and it said, so listen, you know, so what's the solution.

683
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 3: And the problem is that, you know, Haiti has nothing.

684
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: If hait it would have some old us would come say,

685
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: hey boy, I'm gonna help you out. You know, here's

686
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: some guys give me a while. I mean, sle yeah,

687
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna help you out. But now now

688
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: they have nothing, right number one. Number two, they are

689
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: in the fucking island. They are contained. You know, it's

690
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: not like you there is a war in Egypt, like

691
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: one hundred million people and you know you're gonna have

692
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: twenty million refugees, so they cannot swim. Maybe they for

693
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: someone you tried, but you know, they end up dead.

694
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: So nobody in the world gives a shit about that place.

695
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: And the only people who should and could give a

696
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: ship it's themselves. The problem is that they should reach

697
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: the bottom and then they should say enough, it's enough, right,

698
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: But apparently they reached.

699
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: The bottom, start to dig, took the shovel and start

700
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: to dig that ca they hit the rock bottom.

701
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: So so so this this brings me to them, This

702
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: brings me to the human nature. You know that humans

703
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: are animals, and humans can't get used to anything if

704
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: it's done for a long period of time, and if

705
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: it's done slowly, ah, they get violence for years, you know,

706
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: and they get accustomed to that violence, you know, and

707
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: they get accustomed to the war. They get accustomed to

708
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: the sound of gun, you know, they get accustomed to rape.

709
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: You know. You come to them, you say, listen, man,

710
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: yesterday ten people were shot next door. You know, He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

711
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: let's talk about football better.

712
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

713
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: C So so this is human nature, you know, and

714
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what it takes. I don't know. And

715
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: you see a lot of you know, you see families.

716
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: There's this big problem of displaced people. So refugees, they

717
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: have internationals like legal status, and you have to help them.

718
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: Like there are procedures, certain international procedures for refugee right,

719
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: but for displaced people. In terms of displaced people who

720
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: lost their home or they had to move out because

721
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: of the gang, you know, there's no fucking procedure nothing,

722
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, it's just you're you're, you're on your own.

723
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: And we went to this displaced community where there are

724
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: a lot of kids, and there are all these families.

725
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: You know, some of them mechanics, blue collar workers, and

726
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: some of them are teachers and everything. And many people

727
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: ask me, no, oh, you know you see all these kids,

728
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: you know, don't you feel sorry for the kids? And heck, no, man, no,

729
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: look why you're heartless? No, I don't feel sorry for

730
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: the kids because kids adapt like that next day, you know,

731
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: they have they smiling, they adapt. What I'm sad for.

732
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: There's all these adults because they understand what happened. Kids

733
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: can't understand what happened. You know, it's different house, no house.

734
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: You know this, and that. You know, they play, they

735
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: get together, you know, food, no food. But the adults,

736
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: you can see so much sadness in their eyes. Because

737
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: they understand what happened to them, understand what happened to

738
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: the country. They understand what happened to the kids because

739
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: from those kids from ten nine will be thieves, robbers, murderers,

740
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck terrorists.

741
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: You know that to your point with the human nature,

742
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: like the environment is everything, right, Like you know that

743
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: you're in. One of the things I like about the

744
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: program we did at Harvard is like, you're in this

745
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: group of people and everybody's pushing for growth, personal growth,

746
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: business growth, but you're in this great environment that influences

747
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: each other's behavior. But on the low end of the scale,

748
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: the same thing happens. Right, you're in this environment. The

749
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: kids that are innocent are all that's the way of life.

750
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: They know nothing more than they have to be a thief,

751
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: kill people, join a gang. It's crazy. And I actually

752
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: as much as the people get triggered when Trump says, oh, look,

753
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: we need to wipe out Gaza and start over, Like

754
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: I think that's the solution. Like you have to totally

755
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: remove this environment Hamas. The Palestinians can't stay there. Where

756
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: the fuck are they going to stay in the You

757
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: see this Gada Lego set right It's just like a

758
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: crumbled building, like you need to push everybody out, resettle them,

759
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: and build over again. That's it. Maybe they register if

760
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: they're legitimate Palestinian, they can register, come back and get

761
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: land when it's rebuilt. But until you eliminate the situation,

762
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 2: you have an unsolvable problem with Hamas and this never

763
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: ending fucking conflict. I agree with Trump what he's trying

764
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: to do, and a lot of people don't understand. The

765
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: Middle East is so complex, right. It goes back to

766
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: the UK England dividing up the whole Middle East, stopping

767
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: it up into pieces. But it's it's insane, man, and

768
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: nobody wants they think of the Palestinians, that these other

769
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: Arab countries, which a lot of Americans don't realize. The

770
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 2: Palestinians are kind of the Gypsies of the Middle East.

771
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 2: Nobody wants them. That's why you don't hear this big

772
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: push from Saudi UAE. There's not big involvement. Still, the

773
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: US is kind of leading this negotiation. It's crazy, man,

774
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: But that's a whole other topic for a different day.

775
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: But maybe gods the next Yeah.

776
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: Well listen you as also, you know it didn't help,

777
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: you know, putting the petrol into the fire. And you know, listen,

778
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: it's so complicated, it's so complicated. You know, you go

779
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: to that Middle East region, it's you know, I can

780
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 3: let me do this. I can draw you as six,

781
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: but from your perspective it would be what nine, yeah, nine, yeah, yeah,

782
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 3: for sure for me it's six. You know, that exercise

783
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: explains me from which perspective you're looking at. Looking from

784
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: aur perspective. As soon as is Israel appeared there, it

785
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: became a problem. Conflict after conflict of the conflict. Okay,

786
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 3: looking from European perspective, you probably don't want Muslims invading Europe,

787
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 3: you know, so maybe it real is good. You know,

788
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: So it's depending, you know. And and the problem is

789
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: that people when they get you know, like good you know,

790
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 3: the good enough money and everything, and they work for

791
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: some corporate you know, there's this whole wogue culture you know,

792
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: which I don't like, you know, like they think, oh,

793
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: let's be good, you know, let's accept those immigrants. You know,

794
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: you don't understand what's gonna happen another five ten years.

795
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: You know, we are not at that level of consciousness

796
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: and education that we can assimilate large quantities different cultures.

797
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: Not there yet, man, Yeah, yeah, no, it would be

798
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: like I'll be there.

799
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd be like taking all these people from Haiti

800
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: and dropping him into illness, right.

801
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because because we're humans, they're humans. We have

802
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: to help, We have to do something. Aren't you concerned?

803
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: You know? And I remember there was this guy, you know,

804
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: Swiss guy, you know, and they said, listen, you have

805
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: to help these Ukraine people. You know, you have to

806
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: accept them. He's like, there are kids dying. He's like why,

807
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 3: but if your kid dying, you will be worried. He's like, yes,

808
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: So is there a difference between swis Ky Ukrainian kids. Yes,

809
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: the guy was very the guy was very blund but yes,

810
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: for him, it is a difference.

811
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

812
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: The resources are not infinite, right, resources are finite. The

813
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: cultures are different, you know. And I think I like

814
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: Trump politics that he says, listen, let me go back

815
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: and take care of America first, so we all better

816
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: off when everybody's taking care of their own business.

817
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: You know, exactly exactly.

818
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 3: Don't go to Afghanistan, try to fix Afghanistan and then

819
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 3: fucking leave twenty years later with people dropping from the plane.

820
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: You know, No, that's crazy. I've been talking about this

821
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: for twenty years. It was happening like we when I

822
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: was in Afghanistan, the mission was killed, the terrorists, destroy

823
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: the training camps, put the Taliban out of power. That

824
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: was it. And we did in one year, maybe a

825
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: little less, and we should have left by two thousand

826
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: and two, almost leave Afghanistan because I had friends that

827
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: were going on missions twenty ten, sometimes twice in one night,

828
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: coming back killing people on the direct action mission, coming

829
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: back loading the bullets in the magazine, and the government

830
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: lawyers coming in, hey, why did this guy? Why did

831
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: you shoot this guy on this thing on the corner here, Bob,

832
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: Like literally getting investigated as they're preparing to go out

833
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: on another mission at like three in the morning, and

834
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: they're like, why the fuck are we here, Like what

835
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: are we doing here? Like my friends were telling me this,

836
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: like we don't know why we're in Afghanistan. Rules of

837
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 2: engagement changing. When I was there, fifteen year old fighting

838
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: Mail Brown, and the joke was if you're if he's brown,

839
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: he's down, you know, because.

840
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: You're shooting it.

841
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 2: But the it got crazy, man, and then fucking trillion

842
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 2: dollars in Afghanistan gone, Like we left the exercise equipment,

843
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: the weapons, the all these military hardware for the Taliman.

844
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: Now the Taliban back in power, stronger than ever.

845
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: You brought this country or comunies move together with Russia.

846
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: We're fucking us brought this country back kind of years back.

847
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure America. Also the pulling out of

848
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: the Middle East, the Northern Iraq, it caused a refugee

849
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: crisis in Europe. Like people don't understand this cause and effect. Like,

850
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: and that's one thing I like about Trump. He is

851
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: foreign policy is a guy time the fuck out, Like

852
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: we don't need Yeah, let's get our house in order.

853
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: And and he's he knows to negotiate. You have to

854
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: have this dialogue back and forth. You cannot put your

855
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: head in a fucking stand and pretend like, oh, I

856
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: don't want to speak to putin. No, he's a fucking

857
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: world leader. Like, talk to the guy, come up with

858
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: a solution and negotiate some peace. But yeah, it's it's

859
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: uh for Trump. Look, there's a lot of things I

860
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: don't like about Trump, but a lot of things I like.

861
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: And I think the fact that he's not a career politician.

862
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: He's not bought and sold by the lobbyist donating his campaign.

863
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: He doesn't give a fuck And I love it. Man

864
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: and people going after Elon Musk. I'm like, guys, this

865
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: guy could buy his own island, could probably buy Haiti

866
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 2: and live the rest of his life however he wants.

867
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: But no, he's volunteering the time to like fix all

868
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: this government inefficiency. You know, Oh he's stealing from the government. Guys.

869
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't need any more money. What the fuck? You know,

870
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: he's the richest guy in the world, like one, but

871
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

872
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 3: He's getting his power. You probably is the top drug

873
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: in the world. You know, all these phantandem guys this stupid.

874
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: You know, they could have run off the power. Power

875
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: is number one. It is much more powerful than But

876
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 3: you know, it's coming back to wasting money. So when

877
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: I was in you know, I was with the Taliban,

878
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: Uh was with these local gangs and you know, crime leaders,

879
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 3: and you know we can't we see to eat eat

880
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 3: food in the dinner and there's this guy is like, oh, yeah,

881
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: a good business day today, And I said, what happened?

882
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 3: He's like, I burnt six trucks today. Like, whose trucks

883
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: you burned? Like my own, man, my own so's where

884
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: where is the fuck? Where's the fucking business? And not

885
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 3: to buy your six trucks? He's like, you don't understand.

886
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: So he's in contract to deliver fuel to US military,

887
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: and the contract in case of accident, pays amount of

888
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 3: the truck and the load. So the truck is ten k,

889
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: the lord is sixty K like diesel. Okay, So he

890
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: burns six or ten empty trucks and he gets half

891
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: a meal.

892
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

893
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 3: And he shares that with US military.

894
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: They pay him on the spot, probably cash, yeah yeah.

895
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And then he shares some money with the

896
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: with the local So so it's all business, you know,

897
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 3: and nobody wants to leave. Also, Bhanistan was a very

898
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: good training ground for for for for US ceremony perfect

899
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: you know, whatever the fuck you like, you know, should

900
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: not shoot drone? No drone? You know. So you know,

901
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: when you when you start the infrastructure, when you start

902
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 3: the machine going, you know, for example, you establish an

903
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: HR department in the company, it will grow man suddenly,

904
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: new procedures, new policies, and it will start thinking of

905
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: the new uses for himself more budget and everything. You know,

906
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 3: so as soon as you start the war machine, it

907
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 3: will grow. It will not stop. It's not like okay,

908
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 3: we enter, we leave.

909
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: You know, Well that's the this is back. This burning

910
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: of the truck is back to this incentive. You have

911
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: to really watch the way that you create these incentives

912
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: and because people will find a way to abuse it

913
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: if they can. Even when I was in magazine getting

914
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: the stem cell treatment, I took the tour of this

915
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 2: commune of thirteen, like Pablo Escobar's crazy part of town.

916
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: And when the new government came in, they were saying

917
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: to the army, if you get a bonus, you get

918
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: cash bonus for every gorilla you kill. So what they

919
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: do they start killing civilians and putting them in the clothes,

920
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: like dressing them up. So they're getting the money and

921
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 2: they're just killing everybody. It's going to get this incentive

922
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: in place. So yeah, you have to be really careful

923
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: about these incentives because it thinks you think that that

924
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: would be a good thing, and actually it's something that

925
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: could be totally abused, like the burning of the truck.

926
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, the idea of the globalization

927
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: is over like that, we're all going to be friends,

928
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: and you know, everybody's going to produce what is cheap,

929
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: and we're gonna trade and we're gonna agree. It's done.

930
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: I think we're not there yet. I think the democracy

931
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: is being tested right now. Yeah, it's really tested because

932
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: the best example of democracy is European Union. Who the

933
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 3: fuck is European Union? Who is our leaders?

934
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

935
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: Who knows what policy we do? Will somebody supports rush,

936
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: somebody against us, somebody want to find somebody want to

937
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: put money to, somebody that want to put you know,

938
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: let's discuss, you know, let's discuss for one one for

939
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: two months. So I think democracy is also being tested

940
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: right now. We'll see if we survive. Everybody upset about

941
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: putting in Zelensky and not putting Trump and Zelenski like,

942
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 3: oh how come Trump treated him this? On the other listen, man,

943
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: he comes, he needs something, he should shut the fuck up.

944
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: Yea, And you.

945
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up right. You are not getting minerals

946
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: that you're not gonna get yourself. You know you're gonna

947
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 3: keep it for what to keep fighting. You're gonna keep

948
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 3: the position. You know, you're like, man, you want this

949
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: sport to be. You lost it you lost the war,

950
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: once your country split in opinion, once your house is

951
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: not or you lost already, you know, somebody else will

952
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: come take your market share. You know, so so very

953
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: tough of course, you know, how could they treat and

954
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: they ask him about the suit and you know he's

955
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: in military, he's fighting, you know, so what this is life?

956
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 3: So not many people understand what is the real life?

957
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: You know what it takes to win, you know, and

958
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: everybody is saying that, oh, poor chicken, you know, wanted

959
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: to play with the lion. Lion made the cheecken, so

960
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 3: exactly what chicken wanted to play? Well, yeah, but this

961
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: is a fucking line he wanted to eat. So what

962
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: to do?

963
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Well, Hey, hey brother, we're coming up on

964
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: an hour. I don't want to take up too much

965
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: of your time. I would love to have you back

966
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 2: on the show.

967
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: But let's talk about stem cells.

968
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, talking quickly about the stem cells. And then

969
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: I do want to say when I was so, Sammy

970
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: took took me up to the hunting lodge.

971
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: Can you hold on a second, our closed my eyes? Yeah, yeah,

972
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: I need to.

973
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: M so Sammy, I'm up hunting birds with Sammy like

974
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: the black doves and this capri Kelli which looks like

975
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: a cross between a fucking turkey and an eagle, crazy

976
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: crazy looking bird. But we're Massana, We're talking about o

977
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: PM and you come up. He's like fucking Urugus. He's

978
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: like that crazy motherfucker. He's like, I he asked me

979
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: if I want to help with Ukraine and donate some

980
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: money for the guns. And then he's like, my secretary

981
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: calls me up next day she's like, hey, I got

982
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: this wire information from Yurgus, but it says like Hell's

983
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: the Angels Lithuania. She's like, he's like what the fuck?

984
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: He says he calls you and you're like, hey man,

985
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: this ain't fucking Lego Land. You know, like this is

986
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: this is the real deal.

987
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: So you know what the funny story he said to me.

988
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: He said to me, I want to donate money to Ukraine,

989
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: but I want to know that that the sheep will

990
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: get delivered. Yeah, so so you wanted to get delivered.

991
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 3: This is the club. This is the people who deliver directly.

992
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: You know, you want to donate the un you self don't. Yeah,

993
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 3: So then his lawyers got scared.

994
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was funny. He told me the story.

995
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: So the stem cells. So look I was dealing with.

996
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: I would say when I maybe six years ago, I

997
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: started having pain in my right leg and I went

998
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: to the doctor. Doctor said, hey, have you had the

999
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: injury and this leg. I was like, yeah, I had

1000
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: skydiving accidents. She's like, oh, you chipped your hip socket.

1001
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: So you hit so hard you chip the bone and

1002
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 2: there's like a piece of bone on the X ray.

1003
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1004
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, arthritis. So she sends me the pilates with

1005
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: the broken ballet dancers in New York. So I'm doing

1006
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 2: which is good. I'm single. I'm like, okay, this could

1007
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: be good, good for me. But I'm in there doing

1008
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: the pilates. So then I get my leg starts getting

1009
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: stronger and I have no problem. But then it's still

1010
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 2: like some arthritis, and I'm like, fuck, this pain is

1011
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: just like constant. So I start researching. Then I'm swimming

1012
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,959
Speaker 2: and I fucking get the shoulder issue. And now I'm like, fuck,

1013
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: my whole body is breaking down. But it's all from

1014
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: the seal teams, right, it's like ten years, just go,

1015
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: go go. So I'm researching. I don't want surgery. And

1016
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: my friends with Tony Robin's son Jarek, and Jack says, look,

1017
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: my dad did themselves on the shoulder, like doctors in

1018
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: US that guaranteed surgery, no way around it. He's like, no,

1019
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: there's gotta be another way. So he went to Panama

1020
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: and got one of the first guys to get the

1021
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: injection in his shoulder.

1022
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the injury. Let's look, let's get more specific. Okay,

1023
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: because I did a surgery on my right shoulder because

1024
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: of the torn labrum. So labrums, we're not fixed, but

1025
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 3: you but there was a tricky issue, so they they recommended.

1026
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they so look the US doctors want They

1027
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: were like, look, you have to get the hip.

1028
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: Surgery and I'm okay. Replaced, the replace, the replace the joint.

1029
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: And then same with the shoulder. Oh we can fix

1030
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: it easy with a surgery because I don't have a tear.

1031
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,439
Speaker 2: It's it's just I have a small tear.

1032
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: I have a small okay, but it's like one out

1033
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 3: it's worn out.

1034
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, but the thing is the stem

1035
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: cells they regenerate cartilage and tissue, so they regrow. Like

1036
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 2: even the surgeon that go into the if there's a

1037
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: problem with the baby. Maybe the fingers are growing together.

1038
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: The surgeon will cut the finger off and separate and

1039
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: the stem cells will grow the finger back. Like it's crazy.

1040
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 2: So anyway, I did all the research. I had a

1041
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 2: couple of friends tell me, hey, this has been really

1042
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: good for me. I actually called Chuck Ledell that was

1043
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: one of the first UFC champions. I messaged it on Instagram.

1044
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, man, I'm about to do this.

1045
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. He's like, just call me.

1046
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: He sent me his number. I called Chuck and he's like, man,

1047
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't. He's like, I couldn't hold my son like this.

1048
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't put a backpack in the overhead of the airplane.

1049
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: Now he's like, I have a full range emotion, bull shoulders.

1050
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: He's like, it's saved me. So so I said, fuck it.

1051
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: I went down. I put my money. I flew to Managine.

1052
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: There's two clinics, one in Panama. The same one in

1053
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 2: Panama has one in Mexico as well. But and then

1054
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: this bio accelerator and in a Metagine and I talked

1055
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: to the US office. They did the consultation. I paid

1056
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: the money. I flew to Medagine. They meet you at

1057
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: the airport directly to the hotel. They take you and

1058
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: then the clinic is. Then the hotel is right next

1059
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: to this high high end shopping mall and Metagine and

1060
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: Tsro District and it's connected to the mall. So you

1061
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: walk across the mall to the medical tower and it's

1062
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: five star service. Like I've never had any nicer medical facility,

1063
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: nicer than anyone and I've been to in the US.

1064
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: So I did both shoulders, both hips, and I was

1065
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 2: awake for this hip. And to prep your body for

1066
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: the stem cells, they put you in an oxygen chamber,

1067
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: take you down two atmospheres, like sixty six feet pure oxygen,

1068
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: and even they have the tube and they have the

1069
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: Netflix and you can watch them because I'm in there

1070
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 2: for an hour in this chamber. But but I'm watching

1071
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: like f one series on Netflix in the chamber. Then

1072
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: I had an orthopedic surgeon to look at the MRI

1073
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: and then he knew he knows exactly where to put

1074
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: the stem cells in the shoulder, the prolemari and he

1075
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: has the ultrasound, so he's got the ultrasound and then

1076
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: he's put the needle in and he's like finding and

1077
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: then he injects and I'm awake.

1078
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: No anesthesia for this, and well, that's that's your loss,

1079
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: you know, I like an No.

1080
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think I don't know why they don't use anesthesia.

1081
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: Maybe to save money. But it wasn't that painful other

1082
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: than the initial poke and then when they inject you

1083
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: can feel this like pressure going in. But I was

1084
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 2: They take you out of the injections right in the

1085
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: crowd chamber to just help with the inflammation. That was

1086
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: on the Wednesday, Thursday, neurosurgeon comes that they put me

1087
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: out for and they put from S one to L five.

1088
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: You injected twenty million stem cells each disc and then

1089
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: around the fascia more stem cells. And the ideas it

1090
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 2: grows back the disc, it grows back, repairs the damage

1091
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: and it takes minimum six weeks to a year. These

1092
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: stem cells are inside you, just working, working, working. Also,

1093
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: I got the IV two rounds of IV stem cells.

1094
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: And the thing is with the stem cell it goes

1095
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: to your body and it finds the areas that.

1096
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, where they need to repair. I know, I know,

1097
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: I know, I want I want to know from the practice.

1098
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, so done.

1099
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: So when I got by Friday, this hit pain. I

1100
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 2: had five years holy gone, like someone took a switch

1101
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: and turned it off. The pain like insane. And I

1102
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: was not only that, I was hearing these stories direct

1103
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: from the patients because some guys have been there second time.

1104
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: They have really big problems. One guy had multiple of

1105
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: rosis MS from Canada. He's like, it's totally helping me

1106
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: with my MS. Another guy was a firefighter in America,

1107
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: broke his back, paralyzed. First trip, they put stem cells.

1108
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: He's up and walking like fucking crazy stuff man. And

1109
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: he was back second time for more treatment because they

1110
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: they give him a spinal tap with the stem cell.

1111
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: They sucked the spinal fluid out and then put the

1112
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: stem cell back in its place. It's crazy, and I'm

1113
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: hearing the stories from these guys. Guy paralyzed now walking

1114
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: guy he had a cane and a walker for his hips.

1115
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: They injected him. Now no cane, no walker, Like it's

1116
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 2: just I'm directly from the patients. It was crazy.

1117
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 3: So do you think there was any placebo effect world

1118
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 3: as well? In pain? Not with me?

1119
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: Man, Like this is like I can deal with pain,

1120
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: like I just got used to it, right, and I

1121
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: think I know what he's paying.

1122
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm in pain, back pain, but yeah, psychological, you know.

1123
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: But I told part of this, but dude, this was

1124
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: like gone. Man. I mean I wake up every morning

1125
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 2: now just going fuck, it's still gone. Because I'm in

1126
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: my head, I'm worried it's coming back.

1127
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yeah so and for my.

1128
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 2: Back, I cannot. I can't recommend it enough.

1129
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 3: Man.

1130
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: Could I just talk to so many people directly. It's

1131
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: not some bullshit marketing video. These guys are like, dude,

1132
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 2: I was in fucking severe pain and this solved my problem.

1133
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 3: Just over and over and over.

1134
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: Guys showed me after he had the stem cells IV

1135
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 2: and for his hip, he went back to America, wealthy

1136
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: developer from Miami. He's like, I burned my arm on

1137
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: the on my He has a huge car collection and

1138
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: he had a classic car. He's like, I thought my

1139
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: car breaks down in the freeway. I thought I was

1140
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: undoing the reservoir cap for the radiator. It was the

1141
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: actual radiator itself. So he had this second third degree burn.

1142
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: He's like one week later gone because I had recently

1143
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: had the stem cells and he showed me the photos

1144
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: and I was like holy shit, no scar nothing. So

1145
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: these are like, it's amazing, man, and I'm shocked that

1146
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: we don't have this in America. I think you can

1147
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: get it in Switzerland now. But these are these stem

1148
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 2: cells are harvesting from umbilical chords from sea sections because

1149
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: I guess the c section has much less bacteria because

1150
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,919
Speaker 2: when a canal birth, they have a lot of bacteria.

1151
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 2: So they only take this cord umbilical cord stem cells

1152
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: from sea sections. I mean, it's all like the consent

1153
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: of the mom. So I got it from two different women.

1154
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 2: And they don't even need to match blood type because

1155
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: anyone can stick to take the stem cells.

1156
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: So there's two questions with it, you know. One question

1157
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: is the traceability off the stem cells, because you don't

1158
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 3: know what you're getting. So I guess this is a reputation.

1159
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 2: But they give you the lab is right in the

1160
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 2: clinic and you get a Q and A with the

1161
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: head of the head doctor of the laboratory and they

1162
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: tell you you get your certificate and it shows me

1163
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 2: exactly where your stem cells come from. All the treatments,

1164
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: the protocols, everything is listed. I have a certificate. It

1165
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 2: shows everything because they say, look yeah, so it's good.

1166
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 2: And these guys I like them because I got there

1167
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. Sunday, then Monday you go to the clinic,

1168
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 2: and then Monday night they have a social for all

1169
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: the patients and they want you to talk to each

1170
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: other because they know the best marketing is the people

1171
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: that have had the procedure before telling you that the story.

1172
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 2: They're not hiding anything, and so I was really impressed.

1173
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: Question one, you know the traceability, which you said it's

1174
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: question two.

1175
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: Side effects, Yeah, there are some mild side effects.

1176
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: I'll forget about those temporaries. I'm talking about the cancer tip.

1177
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't. The temporary stuff is I'll

1178
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: talk about quickly. It's more like you get maybe some

1179
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: mild fever, like I had small chills the first night

1180
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: I had. Stem cell IV's working. Yeah, it's working, so

1181
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,600
Speaker 2: I but I had the temporary side effects and are

1182
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 2: pretty much negligible. I've heard of no, like real adverse

1183
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: side effects like I've heard of really none that I

1184
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: know of. In the stories. There was only one guy

1185
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: out of I talked to probably twelve people that were

1186
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: at the clinic getting like professional football player, professional two bodybuilders,

1187
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: like this guy and his girlfriend. They were like she

1188
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: was like huge, and I thought, yeah, man, it was crazy,

1189
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: but she had had her knees done and she's like, yeah,

1190
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 2: I'm back to full training. And first of all, I'm like, fuck,

1191
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: your knees are fixed, Like why do you go back

1192
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: to the gym and like ruin them? And again you

1193
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: know you should be doing yoga and swimming. But the

1194
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: only one guy that he was from Serbia and he

1195
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: has a security company in Vegas. Super nice guy, but

1196
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: we I went out to dinner with him and he

1197
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: orders this huge tomahawk steak and all I could think

1198
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 2: to myself like, man, they nutrition has just said don't

1199
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 2: eat any red meat because it impacts the stem cells.

1200
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: Like they it puts false inflammation in the body and

1201
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: the stem cells are gonna get confused. And the first

1202
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: thing guy does order a fucking tomawk steak at the

1203
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: restaurant and I was like, yeah, I'm like, no, wonder

1204
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: you're having Like you're not getting like good results though,

1205
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 2: But that was the only guy I that I uh,

1206
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: who was that I heard like anything that wasn't like

1207
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: like a really five star.

1208
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 3: Experience, But who said what be specific? Who said what

1209
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 3: he said something that no.

1210
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: He just said he had it for his back and

1211
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: he wasn't getting he wasn't getting the results he was

1212
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: hoping for. But also I was like, man, you got

1213
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: to lose some weight. You need to do yoga, and

1214
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 2: he had that Eastern European He's like, oh, fuck yoga,

1215
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: It's for faggots, you know. I'm like, guy, like, look

1216
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: if a navy sea can do fucking yoga pilates, like,

1217
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: come on. So he was like I got to him.

1218
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: He's a super nice guy and he at the end

1219
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: of this trip. I think because of my background, he

1220
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I think I should do yoga class, like,

1221
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: because you can't just you can't take a pill or

1222
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 2: do one thing, and you have to make lifestyle adjustments. Man,

1223
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: you can't. You have to like adjust, maybe not go

1224
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: so hard in the gym.

1225
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 3: I am thinking about themselves because.

1226
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: I told your wife was Ranata.

1227
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 3: I was like, for sure, yeah, yeah, she told me so.

1228
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 3: So you know I had this issue. I had this

1229
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:55,480
Speaker 3: uh you know, shoulder issue. You know, go to physiotherapy,

1230
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: do this, do that? Yet yeah, you know it doesn't help.

1231
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 3: I cannot live to waste. I cannot do boxing. You know,

1232
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 3: it's just my hook is not the same hook how

1233
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 3: I do it. And I've been for twenty years in

1234
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 3: martial arts, so I do amri. Usually I do a

1235
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: lot of ameris. I'm like hyperhondrack. But this was I

1236
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: was avoiding and then I did it and they said, oh,

1237
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 3: your shoulder is fucked. It's full about trade is. Man,

1238
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 3: You're gonna be sold joint replacement, you know in ten years.

1239
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, you know, so I'll just torn labor Yeah,

1240
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: And apparently from the you know, punching bag where you

1241
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 3: put the heavy pressure, I fucked up the complage. So

1242
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: I did the surgery because the laborom is not gonna heal. No,

1243
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,839
Speaker 3: no stemselves will help if you heal the torn labrum,

1244
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: you know, but a tritus is still there, you know,

1245
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: and I can hear this.

1246
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: I think this. I think will help because I have

1247
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: the same arthritis in my hips and it's fucking gone.

1248
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1249
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: It took away all the inflammation. So I think I

1250
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 2: would do I would do both shoulders, fucking if you

1251
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 2: can afford it, I would do everything. Man backed shoulder

1252
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: hips because you know, like we get older and stuff.

1253
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: It's like a carriage and it's certain parts are gonna

1254
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: start wearing out, especially if you use it.

1255
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 3: So two things on my mind, you know, uh, stem

1256
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 3: cell and thirty and.

1257
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: What what's tiert oh testosterone? Testosterone. Now, the good thing

1258
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: is I did the full I lost a friend, one

1259
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: of my oldest friends from the military. He was a

1260
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: captain for FedEx and also a Navy pilot captain like

1261
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: my age gone cancer took him last year, wife, two kids,

1262
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: and it freaked me out. So I did the full

1263
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: full uh like CEO level MRI contrast scan where they

1264
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 2: they put you in the CT scan and inject the

1265
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: dye blood in your in your IV so the circulates

1266
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: they can see a blockage and the arteries. Because I

1267
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: was freaked out, man, and I did the DNA test

1268
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,759
Speaker 2: for all the nutrients, but the testosterone with the blood.

1269
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: The doctor's like, dude, you have a high testosterone of

1270
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: like some twenty year old guys, like, yeah, that's why

1271
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm jerking off once a day minimum.

1272
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but you need to look examine close to

1273
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 3: the testosterone and the free testoteral bioavailable testoster. I need

1274
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 3: to look at the range you know.

1275
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we can talk about this because Sammy also

1276
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: was telling me the same thing.

1277
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, So it's complete difference, complete difference in

1278
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,879
Speaker 3: the time you're feeling, you know, in terms of your motivation,

1279
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: sleep performance, physical performance. Crazy.

1280
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 2: But I noticed, I noticed from this treatment, I have

1281
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: more energy. Obviously, the pain is gone on my hip.

1282
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: And I'm waiting, like it's taking six weeks. I've only

1283
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: had almost three weeks now, so I'm still waiting for

1284
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: their Hopefully it gets better and better results. But so far,

1285
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: so good.

1286
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 3: Man.

1287
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: I would just for the pain relief I got in

1288
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: my hips. I would spend the money on that just that, because.

1289
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: Just the pain, I agree, because the pain every time

1290
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: you bend, every time.

1291
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: Terrible.

1292
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 3: I know. I lived with pain for years and I

1293
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 3: still do in some in some cases.

1294
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: And even for like I'm not worried about this wrinkles

1295
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: and all this bullshit, but you get naturally the stem

1296
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 2: cells kind of like take care of the aging process too.

1297
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: They get rid of wrinkles, and now they're when I

1298
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: was down there, I saw the video they're actually rather

1299
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: than boattox. They put the stem cell injections and in

1300
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 2: the woman's face and it's like taking everything away naturally, right,

1301
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 2: it's like a really reversing the clock in a natural way.

1302
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: You're not putting this crazy fucking botox or any of

1303
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: this other stuff. But yeah, I think we're gonna see,

1304
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: you know, the like what I saw in front of

1305
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: my eyes, unequivocable results and testimonials from these people. Guy

1306
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: fucking paralyzed in a wheelchair and he's walking because themselves.

1307
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1308
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 3: Man. So I think I think the stem cells field

1309
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: will bring a lot of innovation in one year, you know,

1310
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 3: yeah for sure, just a question, as I said, two

1311
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 3: questions tressability, and that's side the sect, you know, because

1312
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 3: imagine if it grows cartilage, what else it can grow?

1313
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 3: You know, But hopefully they say that No, it's just

1314
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 3: just you know, just targeted area. Yeah, I will check

1315
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 3: it out.

1316
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, check it out. The I mean I think I said,

1317
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: or not at the length?

1318
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I accelerate. Yeah, yeah, you said me before we

1319
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: talked about it a year ago and you said you're

1320
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 3: considering this.

1321
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: And if you want to intro I can email you

1322
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: to the to the woman in the US. But brother, dude,

1323
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: so the videos is going up on all these crazy travels.

1324
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: But let's let's come back in April on the podcast.

1325
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 2: Then the audience will watch the videos and then we

1326
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: can talk about more crazy ship about yeah, man, and

1327
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 2: let's we got to get together the summer.

1328
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: Man, So you tell me where you have a plane,

1329
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 3: You have a plane. Come, I'm going to Dubai in

1330
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: the Cup in May, and then you know we we

1331
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 3: we're buying some properties in Asia, I guess.

1332
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: So maybe I'll come to visit you in May. I'll

1333
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: come to.

1334
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 3: Dubai, come to I'll show you.

1335
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 2: Just don't just don't fucking bring that guy with the

1336
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: cocaine problem that you told me, that crazy, crazy story.

1337
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: We should tell the story next time we're on the podcast.

1338
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: That's a crazy without names, without names.

1339
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, without names? All right, brother, same, all right, dude,

1340
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 2: let's keep the touch next man, Right

1341
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: You've been listening to a self red lady.