1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: The volume. Hi everybody, and welcome in to our Friday 2 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: morning podcast. So I'm going to introduce you, many of 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: you already know them if you play fantasy football, to 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: one of the newest podcasts to join the volume. It's 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: called Fantasy Pros. And obviously people have been playing fantasy 6 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: sports for a long time. I remember a story years ago. 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: I was on a plane. I was out of college 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: and I was a broadcaster for the Las Vegas Stars, 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: the Triple A affiliate of the San Diego Padres, and 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: sitting in front of me was a young man named 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Sean Abner. He had been a top pick. I don't 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: know why I thought he was a top pick in 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: the Mets organization traded to the Padres. Maybe he wasn't. 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: But his name was Sean Abner, outfielder, great sense of humor, 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: fun guy, never panned out as a great player. And 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: Bruce Bochie was our manager, and Bochie and Sean Abner 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: on this American West Airlines plane. I have no idea why. 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I remember it was an American West Airlines plane. We 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: were in coach. We all had aisle seats, and I 20 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 1: asked them what they were playing, and they were playing 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: ro tisseriy baseball, and it sounded so complicated to me. 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, do you guys watch every game? How in 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: God's name can you keep up? I'm like, we live 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: in Vegas. Just go bet the games. Just go to 25 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: the palace station one of the station, Casino Caesar's Palace. 26 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Bet the games. And that was my first introduction to 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: ro tisserie baseball. And this was years ago. It was 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: in the early nineties, so forward to today. I tend 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: to be a gambler. I bet on games. I don't 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: play fantasy sports. But I also, throughout the course of 31 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: my life, realized that I don't always like things the 32 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: public does. And since I've created the volume, I felt 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: we had a hole in the company. During the football season, 34 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: during late July, August, September on through Christmas, we didn't 35 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: have a good fantasy show. So we listened to a 36 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: lot of them, and I wanted people that knew their stuff, 37 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: sense of humor, easy to listen to, and we found 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: these guys fantasy pros, and so I'm going to give 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: you a sample of them today. They worked their butts off, 40 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty easy in my business. If 41 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: you listen to somebody for five or six minutes if 42 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: they sound like people you'd like to hang out with. 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: And I think the guys at Fantasy Pros really sounded 44 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: like that. And that's a big part of what we've 45 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: done at the volume. We've tried to find unique talent. 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp just joined us. I love Shannon. I helped 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: bring him to FS one. I think he's interesting, highly verbal, 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: easy to laugh, He's all of things that a former 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: great player should be. He's diligent, hard working, focused, has 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: a wide range of knowledge on pop culture, nutrition, movies, football. 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp's that was one of the biggest days in 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: the volume's history. And we've had i'd say six or 53 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: seven days that were really meaningful. Some of them are 54 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: days in which we sign a sponsor and we don't 55 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: talk about right, you don't care about that stuff. But 56 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: Shannon makes us as legitimate as we've ever been. He's 57 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: a tremendous talent. We'll put him all over our YouTube page. 58 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: So I'm just really excited as we go into a 59 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: football season. Now, you know we have Snaps, the SEC 60 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: guys and John Middlecoff, Jason McIntyre, but Shannon Sharp and 61 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros I think really take us to another level 62 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: in our football coverage. And I'm totally jack. This has 63 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: been the last couple of weeks. I've had this daunting 64 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: head cold for two weeks. I had it, it left, 65 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: I've got it back. I'm struggling with equilibrium. I can 66 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: barely stand up. So if I seem a little punchy 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: recently on the air, that explains that I can't breathe, 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: wobbling all over the place. If some of it's just 69 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I told my wife, I get stressed out sometimes and 70 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: I get sick when I get stressed, and so we've 71 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: really been working diligently. We have more huge news which 72 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: I think we're going to deliver later next week. I'm 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: excited about. But you know, I just I love going 74 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: into football seasons because stories that you are not going 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: to believe are going to be unveiled. I mean, Grand 76 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: Turismo is this movie that, by the way, I've seen 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: billboards all over the country for it, where it doesn't 78 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: sound it possible. It literally doesn't sound possible. A gamer, 79 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: a race car gamer, goes into an academy, wins a 80 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: contest in the academy, and then goes into a racing 81 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: circuit with a very aspirational aud executive and a failed 82 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: race car driver and eventually wins races. That doesn't even 83 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: sound like it's true. It is true. It's a fascinating movie. 84 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: And when I watch that movie, one of the things 85 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: it led me to and it's something I've always believed 86 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: be very careful about thinking something is a hot take. 87 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: If I would have said to you, there'll be a 88 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: kid that's going to be a gamer and he's eventually 89 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: an executive is gonna say, I'm gonna take this kid 90 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: and make him a race car driver against real pros, 91 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be wildly successful almost immediately, you'd be like, cuckoo, cuckoo, 92 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: hot take guy Kevin Durant's gonna leave Oklahoma City and 93 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: end up with the Warriors the arrival. They've already got 94 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: seven clay they don't do they have enough basketballs? What 95 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: a hot take? When you watch Grand Turismo, my takeaway 96 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: is that's crazy. That makes absolutely no sense, And I 97 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: think that's what I love about football. For the last 98 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: thirty plus years, four new teams minimum have made the playoffs. 99 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: That's minimum. The average is six. Every time I make predictions, 100 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: this time of the year. People are like, oh, give 101 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: me a break, Carolina Panthers make the playoffs. Well, it 102 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: can't just be the Eagles, the Niners, the Cowboys, the Seahawks, 103 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: the Packers. There's got to be a new teams, the Vikings. 104 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: It can't just be the Chiefs and the Bengals and 105 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Jaguars. It's got to be new teams. 106 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: And so that's why I've always laughed at kind of 107 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: I rolled at the term hot take. Sports gives us 108 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: the unexpected, the grand turismo, the crazy, the wild, the unexpected, 109 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: the gamer turn race car driver. It's what I love 110 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: about this season. It's what I love about sports, is 111 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: what I loved about the movie. All right, let's go 112 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: to our guys. They're interesting fantasy pros, really fun twenty 113 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: five minute discussion. 114 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: Here we go. 115 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: We had a discussion after last football season and I said, 116 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, we really don't have a fantasy group that 117 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: and I said it's I've always been a better over fantasy, 118 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: but I said, my friends are fantasy over betting. And 119 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: I said, anytime I've done a remote and said how 120 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: many people play fantasy, one hundred hands go up. And 121 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm like how many people bet and hands go up? 122 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: But fantasy, I believe in America is still it's more popular. 123 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: And so we were looking for a group that had personality, 124 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: that was accurate, that was fun, didn't take themselves too seriously, 125 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: and we listened to a lot of tapes and that 126 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: you guys were the obvious choice. And it's really exciting 127 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: for us because, you know, as our company grows, we've 128 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: got so many different shows like we have. You know, 129 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier was an actual UFC fighter, he's ringside Shannon 130 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Shark can do pop culture and sports. We just didn't 131 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: your Space. We thought we did a poor job on 132 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: it our first two years, like we're just not doing 133 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: a good job. We had gambling talk, but not fantasy. 134 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: And I didn't think you guys would be available to 135 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: be honest with you. 136 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: I was like, well, to be honest, Colin if if 137 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: you know, if Colin Coward calls you, you pick up 138 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: the phone. That's what I always say. Let's beyond which 139 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: my wife that so that's another show. We can on 140 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: a time for that conversation today, that's for sure. But 141 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier, by the way, came on with me on 142 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: the Betting Pros podcast, and he was fantastic. We did 143 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: a whole preview of UFC two ninety one. We talked 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: wwee he and I because we're both big fans, so 145 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: it was a great time. And again I encourage everybody. 146 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure you already know about the Volume Network, but 147 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: the shows they have on there phenomenally. You got all 148 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: the athletes who have their own shows on there, and 149 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: the myriad of different content you guys are doing is 150 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: just tremendous. And I guess we're just excited, and I'm 151 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: excited that you're excited. So let's talk about football because 152 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: we've got questions here and we're gonna land this up 153 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: for you. The first burning question. I think these are 154 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: important because this is I always say, you know, we 155 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: love to talk about fantasy stuff, but real football and 156 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: fantasy that intersects. Everything's coming here together. The numbers come 157 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: around obviously, the same thing with some of these situations 158 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 2: and how they impact fantasy. First question, I want to 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: ask you, com will the Lions crumble under expectations? It's 160 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: one thing to be the plucky underdog every single year, 161 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're building this thing but 162 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: now you look at Vegas. They're telling you they believe 163 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: in the Lions. You're telling the rest of the league 164 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: believes in the Lions. Do you think that the Lions 165 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: are ready to believe in themselves as a favorite? 166 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: I am as long as the expectations are ten to 167 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: eleven wins and not twelve, thirteen or fourteen. The NFC 168 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: is the weaker conference. If you look at Jared Goff's career, 169 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear. When he has a clean pocket and protection, 170 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: he's a really good quarterback. He's not as good outdoors, 171 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: he's not as good under duress. He's not as good 172 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: forced to run. But the Lions have a top five 173 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: to six offensive line, more than enough weapons. Jared Goff 174 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: with time to throw in Los Angeles, when he struggled 175 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: against the Niners, the rams O line couldn't block the 176 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Niners D line. He struggled right and McVeigh saw that, 177 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 1: And so there's a way. Great quarterback don't have to 178 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: win a certain way. Good ones do. Goff does, but 179 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: this team allows him to play the way. He's very 180 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: successful time in the pocket. I think they'll have a 181 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: very good run game. Jared Goff throwing on third and 182 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: two or second and five is a really good quarterback. 183 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the expectations too. Ten eleven wins, we 184 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: start pushing eleven twelve and we start having a bad 185 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: conversation Justin Fields. Everybody's talking about him. Well, Justin Fields 186 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: take the next step forward or we fall backwards. In 187 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, I know they give him DJ Moore. 188 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: They've given a Rocheawn Johnson, Deonta Foreman, some upgrade offensive 189 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: line pieces. Is that enough? Are we ready to finally 190 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: see Justin Fields from Ohio State? Or we're going to 191 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: see Justin Fields who has been hit and miss at 192 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: the quarterback position. Great in fantasy, but that's not everything. 193 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he'll be a hit because they were 194 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: last in the league last year in yards after catch 195 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: and so between the upgrade at wide receiver, tight end, 196 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: and I think the kid they got out of Texas 197 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: the running back is the steals of the draft. He's 198 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: going to get much more support yards after the catch. 199 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: That's what makes Kansas City in San Francisco so good. 200 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: Brock Purdy gets it out to Debo McCaffrey Kittle. It's 201 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: yards after contact, it's yards after catch, and so this kid. 202 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: He was asked to do way too much. Last year, 203 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: he just outside of Mooney and cole Comt, he just 204 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of next level players. Tanyan's a 205 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: really good pickup Claypool. I'm hitting miss on. DJ Moore's 206 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: good yards after catch will allow him to throw on 207 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: third and short and second and five. It felt like 208 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: last year he was in third and nine constantly. So yes, 209 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: I think if you look at his splits last year, 210 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: he was better in the last six games. In the 211 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: first six, he's getting better. It's time it'll work. 212 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Erickson. Your thoughts on fields here. I now we've had 213 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: a lot of conversations on the fantasy side. Do you 214 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: see these new pieces and this renewed optimism here for 215 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: fields to take a step forward? 216 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: I do you know last year he's QB six and 217 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: points per game eleven games played from week's five through seventeen, 218 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: Tams QB five and that was with no weapons to 219 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: throw to. So it's much harder to get completions where 220 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: you're throwing to Chase Claypole, who's just joined the team. 221 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 3: But now you have Dj Moore, you have darn all 222 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: Right added to the offensive line. I think that he's 223 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: set for stardom in year three, specifically in fantasy football. 224 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, certainly the rushing equity off the charts. We 225 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: saw that last year if you added him in a 226 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: single quarterback league, even he got to the playoffs. I 227 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: mean that run was just spectacular. Let's go to another 228 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: one too, last year feel good story, Colin. I love 229 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: field good stories. The problem is sometimes they don't always last. 230 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: Can Gino Smith replicate his twenty twenty two season, which 231 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: was really good from fantasy perspective, and let's be honest, 232 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: from a Seattle Seahawks perspective, they were very pleased. So 233 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: do you think that this is just the new version 234 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: of Geno Smith or is this a one off? 235 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm split on it. The old line, young 236 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: O line, I thought deteriorated a little at the end 237 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: of last year. The running back got hurt, so they 238 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: drafted Zach Charberne of UCLA, which I thought was a 239 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: really smart move. So Walker's a really hard running kid 240 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: from Michigan State, but he gets banged up. So they 241 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: went and said, you know what, Gino needs a running back, 242 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: a top running back. So when Walker left, the O 243 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: line deteriorates. It's more on Gino. So I think Seattle 244 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: saw that and said, you know what, We're going to 245 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: go get a running back one A so we're always 246 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: going to have a top running back. They also went 247 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: and drafted a slot receiver with Lockett and DK Metcalf 248 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: and so I think they know what Gino is. It's 249 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: a little like Dak Prescott or Kirk Cousins. With a 250 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: run game, with support, they can manage you to a 251 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: lot of wins. They can't carry you with no run game. 252 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: They can't carry you with a deteriorating O line. So 253 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: my guess is he dips a little bit. There's there, 254 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: you regress to the mean a little bit. But I 255 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: do think Seattle is smart enough. I think the O 256 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: line will be better this year. Just it's year two 257 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: in the league for those tackles, so I think he's 258 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: going to look pretty similar to last years rating last 259 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: year was near the top of the league. I imagine 260 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: that pulls back a little, but he won't embarrass Seattle. 261 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: He falls into the camp of quarterbacks nine through fourteen 262 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: in the league. You know they can win. They can't 263 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: carry he can win. It's Kirk Cousins is very much 264 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: in that, but they can't carry you. And I think 265 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: that's what Gino is well. 266 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: And you got to have that offensive line ready to 267 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: go in that division two because you've got guys like 268 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald in the front and obviously what you saw 269 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: last year from that San Francisco pass rush. We'll see 270 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: how Nick Moosa wants society. He wants to come back 271 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: and play. We'll see how that works out Ericson, I 272 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: want to ask you this one here. This is a 273 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: is a fun Jet question. You know, we keep talking 274 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: about all we need for the New York Jets is 275 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: what a quarterback? That's it, That's all we need. Well 276 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: they got one. They got a Hall of Fame quarterback. 277 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: He's not quite the same guy he was a few 278 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: years ago, but obviously a huge upgrader over what they had. 279 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: Is Aaron Rodgers really the only thing that Jets need 280 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: to make a run the Super Bowl. And I know 281 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: that sounds lofty, Andrew, but in your opinion, do you 282 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: think that you could take this offense? It was right 283 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: twenty ninth the points last year. Put Aaron Rodgers there 284 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: with the pieces they have with these now two running backs, 285 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: with Breeze Hall and Dalvin Cook and actually run through 286 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: the AFC. 287 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: I think in theory it makes sense. You know why 288 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: the Jets made the move. They wanted to get the 289 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: veteran quarterback in the build into upgrade, pairing him with 290 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: his elite defense. But the other issues at hand, the 291 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: brutal schedule over the start for six weeks. No one 292 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: has a tougher schedule than the New York Jets. Offensive 293 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: line issues on the New York Jets is specifically at 294 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: the tackle position, Like that's scary. You have a you know, 295 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is no spring chicken, Like he's going to 296 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: be entering his age forty season. You know, they got 297 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: to make sure he is protected. We saw him get 298 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: banged up a little bit last year with a finger injury, 299 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: thumb in Like if that influenced his play, which was 300 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: not great last year, then there's potential issues here. So 301 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: they need good Aaron Rodgers to make the Super Bowl run. 302 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: And I'm not so sure of him at this age. 303 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: He hasn't passed for three hundred yards since Week fourteen 304 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty one season. So for me, I'm 305 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: on the side of really fading the New York Jets 306 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: hype an ultra competitive AFC East and I bet the 307 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: under on their projective Wintell. So I'm not in on 308 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: the Jets, interested to see what Collins take is. 309 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Colin, I want to ask you about the Jets 310 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: because with hard knocks on top of it, you're talking 311 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: about I mean, as much press you could possibly get 312 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: in a situation, and it had enough press in the 313 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: off season. Now you're adding hard knocks in the fire. 314 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: Is it going to get to a point here where 315 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: the Jets that people are going to start believing too 316 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: much in the Jets? And should people pump the brakes? 317 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: Well? 318 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of blinking red lights here. 319 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: Corey Davis now retires. So you have Garrett Wilson, a 320 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty three year old, your number one receiver, Alan Lizard's 321 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: a three. They want to make him a two. Andy 322 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Reid bailed on Micole Hardman. The tight end position isn't 323 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: highly productive. It's like, and we don't like the tackles. 324 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Does that sound like an AFC championship team? Like there's 325 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: just you know, everybody bangs on the Giants, but we 326 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: love their tackles. Waller and Saquon Barkley are veteran weapons, 327 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: offensive coach, quarterback in their prime, good defensive front. The 328 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: Jets are flash here. You can argue the Giants have 329 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: really key pieces left tackle, quarterback, prime offensive coach. You know, 330 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: giants planning the same MetLife stadium are getting dragged by everybody. 331 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not so sure that the offensive 332 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: coach with a quarterback in his prime who had a 333 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: higher passer rating than Aaron Rodgers last year may not 334 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: be the play in New York and not the Jets. 335 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense certainly on the Jets size, working in 336 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: their favorsus whether or not the offense can meet the expectations. 337 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: And just like the Lions now, they've got expectations. 338 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: This baseball season continues to heat up. 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And this historic run that 354 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 2: they've had of going from far to the aforementioned Aaron 355 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 2: Rodgers and now Jordan Loves starting the show some flashes here. 356 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: It's only preseason, but I'm sure people all over Cago 357 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: and people all over Minnesota are starting to say, oh no, 358 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: not again. Do you think we're getting to that point 359 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: with Jordan Love where people are buying in on the hype? 360 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Well, Farvan Rodgers are arguably top twelve quarterbacks. Ever, I 361 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: feel pretty confident Jordan Love will not enter that space. 362 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: Agreed. 363 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: The question is there's a lot of boxes. He checks. 364 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: You know, he's big enough, he's mobile, his arm's fine. 365 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: I think we have to be honest that outside of 366 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: an occasional Trevor Lawrence or Andrew Lucker, John Elway. Where 367 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: you land is about eighty percent of your success as 368 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Mahomes landing in Houston is not going to 369 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: be hoisting trophies. He gets Andy Reid, the Hunt family, 370 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: Brett Veach. It's a whole different reality. Matt Stafford Detroit, 371 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Sean McVay trophy, struggling for the playoffs. So 372 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: my takeaway is the Packers on line, excellent run game, 373 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: excellent offensive coach, Wonky division. He's probably going to be successful. 374 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: But what is success? What if he's Kirk Cousins with 375 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: better mobility. I think Green Bay would sign up for 376 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: that today. And that's what I think. You're going to 377 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: have kind of a Dack Cousins with an athletic kid 378 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: who can move. They can move the pocket. By the way, 379 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleuor likes to move the pocket. Couldn't much with 380 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: Aaron as he declined in mobility. So I think they're 381 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: going to move the pocket a lot. The offense is 382 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: going to look different, it's going to look more youthful, 383 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: and I think they'll be successful as long as we 384 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: keep expectations more toward Kirk Cousins and less toward Farvron, 385 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers Andrew. 386 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: When we're talking about the athleticism of Jordan Love too 387 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: and this ability maybe to get out and do some 388 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: other things Aaron Rodgers wasn't capable of doing. What does 389 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: that mean from a fancy perspective, because I know we 390 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: have expectations they're going to rely heavily on that run 391 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: game that Colin was talking about with aj Dillon and 392 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: of course Aaron Jones. But Christian Watson's a piece that 393 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: is coming relatively cheap still in drafts, and that guy 394 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: is a huge playmaker. I know there's still some questions 395 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: about the consistency, but we saw the playmaking ability, we 396 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: saw the speed, we saw you could change a game. 397 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: Is he somebody in fantasy you're investing in in twenty three? 398 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? I love Christian Watson and the fact that Christian 399 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: Watson can also He's a dual threat in terms of 400 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: he can win after the catch, so he can take 401 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: a screen or a slant to the house, and he 402 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 3: can also win downfield, which takes advantage of Jordan Love's 403 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 3: big arm. So Jordan Love's moving around the pocket making 404 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: offscript plays. I think Christian Watson is going to be 405 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 3: that guy that delivers splash plays. 406 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: Down all right, Now here's a fun one. Andrew. I'm 407 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: going to give you a shot at this one first, 408 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: because we had this conversation on betting pros. I've had 409 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: it with a bunch of people. I've already made an 410 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: investment and it seems to be the one where everybody's 411 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: got a different answer. Who's going to win the NFC South, Andrew, 412 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: go ahead, I'm. 413 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: Going with the Atlanta Falcons. You know, Arthur Smith has 414 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: handpicked top ten overall offensive players at running back, wide receiver, 415 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 3: tight end of our last three seasons, got Pits London 416 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: Bijon defense has added key players through free agency and 417 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: the NFL Draft with their site set on winning now, 418 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: like people are joining this defense because they're not rebuild. 419 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: Like Kalays Campbell bringing him in. He wanted to come 420 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: to the Falcons because I think this team can win. 421 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: And when you look at the division they play in, 422 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: it's the worst division in all football. So I think 423 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: that the Falcons can run the table here. I'm not 424 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: afraid of Derek Carr. Like if it's Derek Carr and 425 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: the Saints. That is the biggest thing standing between the 426 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Falcons and at NFC South title. I'll take that all day. 427 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: So for me, all I see the question mark comes 428 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: around Desmond Ridder and during year two, But I think 429 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: in a similar way to a Jordan Love where all 430 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: he needs to do is facilitate an offense with all 431 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: these skilled players around him, similar to a Ryan Tannehill 432 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: that Arthur Smith had so much success with in Tennessee. 433 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: So Ridder wasn't a perfect prospect coming out of Cincinnati, 434 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: but the one thing that he did do was win games. 435 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: Third most wins by quarterback in college football history including 436 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 3: NFL and college Ridder is twenty eight And oh at 437 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: home the Atlanta Falcons open the season at home Panthers 438 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: and Packers. They're starting to and oh so I'm back 439 00:22:59,040 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: in the Falcons. 440 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: What a fun meetingless trend that you throw out there, 441 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: as if that somehow means anything for anything. Look, I'm 442 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: already invested in the Falcons, but it's mostly a b. 443 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: John Robinson reason. Like that's that's the whole point that 444 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: I keep making, Like this is a head coach that 445 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: knows how to run the football, want to run a 446 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: football needs to run the football in an offensive line. 447 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: They got Tyler Alger over a thousand yards last year. Yeah, Colin, 448 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: there's some questions here about this division. So when you 449 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: look at it from your perspective, who do you think 450 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: is really the front runner in the NFC South, Because 451 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: once again last year it was disappointing. 452 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Derek Carr is the best proven quarterback. 453 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: The Saints, I think have the best roster. That's probably 454 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: where i'd lean their schedules week. A lot of betters 455 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: like Atlanta Arthur Smith, good old, underrated O line, a 456 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: lot of first round, you know, tight end running back players. 457 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: So I think I think in a league that has 458 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: pivoted in the last eight to nine years to offense, 459 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: they've got really high end offensive players with a very 460 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: nice offensive line. I don't know anything about Desmond Ritter. 461 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: I watched them in college too, So I mean, if 462 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: I would probably go Car in the Saints roster. But 463 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: there is no proof that the head coach of the 464 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: Saints is more than a defensive coordinator. He bombed with 465 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: the Raiders, and I mean Sean Payton to him was 466 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: an ugly first year and Sean Payton won with Bridgewater, 467 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, Drew Brees, Taysom Hill. So it's like I'm 468 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: putting stock that the Saints coach finds his he finds himself, 469 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: he pivots, he somehow finds this magic, but there's no 470 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: proof it's true. Atlanta is so hot with all the betters. 471 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to acknowledge I didn't see it, so 472 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: I still have a week or two to make my 473 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: picks Atlanta. I really thought Carolina would be interesting, but 474 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: they have been so overwhelmed up front offensively in two games. 475 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not even It's like, oh my god, 476 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: this is potentially Bryce Young small a disaster. So I 477 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: think Atlanta is with the smart money. That's where the 478 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: smart money's going. But I'm not smart money. I'd go Saint. 479 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, now I feel even smarter money because now you're 480 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: talking about everybody else in it, and I'm in it, 481 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: and Andrew's it. That's good, so we feel good. Let's 482 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: leave on that high note. And I'm glad you brought 483 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: up the offensive line issue there in Carolina because that's 484 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: another thing too that really starts to concern me. That 485 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: size of Bryce Young concern me anyway, And if you 486 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: can't not protect this guy, you have to protect him 487 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: more than you would your normal quarterback if you were 488 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: going to keep this kid upright and playing seventeen games 489 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: in the NFL. Let's get to another one here. Normally, 490 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: after you lose the Super Bowl, especially in a tight fashion, 491 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: especially in a disappointing fashion, we've seen teams the next year, 492 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: things don't go their way. Now, the Eagles last year, 493 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: we're very close to winning that game. You can make 494 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: that argument they're just another one of this line of 495 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: teams Colin, where you have this team go to the 496 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, have a great year, everything works out, they 497 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: fall short. The next year, they have high expectations, but 498 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: again doesn't work out. Now I am completely invested in 499 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: the Eagles because I think they can absolutely regain that stature, 500 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 2: more because the NFC is weak than anything else. Do 501 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: you see the Eagles being able to get away from 502 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: that recent trend of those Super Bowl teams that lose 503 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: and then disappoint the next year. Can the Eagles be 504 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: the exception to the rule. 505 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: I think they're going to pull back. Shane Stiken's a 506 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: significant loss. I think he's brilliant. I was told years 507 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: ago by the Chargers GM Tom Telesco. I went to 508 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: lunch with him and he said, boy, we have a 509 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: young offensive coach that is really good. So Shane Steiken 510 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: took herbert rookie year, huge numbers. Jalen Hurts turned him around. 511 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: I think that's a loss. Siiani struggled coaching this team 512 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: before he handed over the play calling. Dude, he's to 513 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: Shane Stikin. And then everything took off. They lost a 514 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: couple of their best defenders. You know, they let some 515 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: linebackers go. Their schedules much tougher. Remember last year they 516 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: faced a collection of kind of backup quarterbacks and second 517 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: tier quarterbacks who are fell behind in games. So Jalen 518 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: Hurts played with a lead, and often a significant lead 519 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: in many games. Well, as you guys know, Baker Mayfield 520 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: looks good with a lead. That's not the league, right. 521 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: What makes Mahomes great is he can trail seventeen to 522 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: nothing third quarter or second quarter, and it just he 523 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: plays the same way. So I don't think they'll have 524 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: these gigantic twenty four to three leads at half. They'll 525 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: play from behind, the games will be closer. They'll miss 526 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni they'll be a good team to a very 527 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: good team. But at times last year they looked like 528 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: Alabama and Nick Saban's early dynasty, like they were just 529 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: the games were over at half. That's not the NFL. 530 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: That is just not Dallas could be better. I think 531 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: the Giants are fine. I've watched Sam Howe in the preseason. 532 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: I talked to Greg co South today. You can win 533 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: games with Sam Howe. I think Chicago's better. There's a 534 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: lot of teams. Detroit could be better. The NFC is 535 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: going to be a little better than we think, and 536 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia pulls back. I still think they win 537 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: the division, but I think they have to go to 538 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: weeks fifteen, sixteen seventeen to win it. Those two giant 539 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: games late will decide it. 540 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: Well, that's an interesting thing from the fantasy standpoint because Andrew, 541 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: we're talking about having to push the ball a little 542 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: bit more. That could be a good thing from fantasy perspective, right. 543 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: No, I love it for the receivers Aj Brown, DeVante Smith, 544 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard. People are trying to figure out is there 545 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 3: are too many miles to feed in this offense. But 546 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: if this team has to now play a full four quarters, 547 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 3: which wasn't the case last year where they would just 548 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 3: run the ball in the second half of games because 549 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: they were just blowing teams out. So I think it's 550 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: great for fantasy football that the Egos are going to 551 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: be playing in more contested contests where they're going to 552 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 3: be going back and forth more with some of these 553 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: other teams. 554 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm jeous because Collins out there having lunches with these 555 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: important NFL people. I had lunch with ericson last week. 556 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: We went to a taco place in New York. I 557 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: don't know if the same kind of conversations happened. I 558 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: didn't get that same kind of buzz. All right, let's 559 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: get to another question here on the board, Andrew, This 560 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: one's for you. Will brock Perdy pick up where he 561 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: left off or is everything going to fall apart in 562 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: year two, because let's be honest, it was another Cinderella 563 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: story of epic proportions. Trey Lance looks like he's on 564 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: the outs. I know Darnold's kicking around, So are you 565 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: believing in Brock. 566 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna believe in rock Perty's seven point six 567 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: touchdown rate, which is basically be throwing at least two 568 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: touchdowns in every single game for seven straight games. Because 569 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: that's better than Patrick Mahomes' career touchdown rate, which just 570 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: happens to rank fifth all time in NFL history. So 571 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: anyone that thinks that Brock Perry's just gonna step in 572 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: and throw two touchdowns every single week, you're gonna be wrong. Like, 573 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: that's not gonna happen with Brock Purdy. Can he be 574 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's puppet as a guy that facilitates the offense, probably, 575 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: Like we've seen him do this with Jimmy Garoppola, with 576 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: Nick Mullins, with CJ. Bether, Like we've already seen this 577 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: play out with a Shanahan quarterback. Rock Purty works in 578 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: this system and they're going to have some success. But 579 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: for him to have such a big edge and be 580 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 3: as hot as he was last year, I don't think 581 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the case. 582 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: Whatsoever. 583 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: He's gonna show more of the reasons why he was 584 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: a seventh round draft pick, why he was picked last, Like, 585 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: I don't think that he necessarily has all of the 586 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: intangibles in that upside. And ultimately, the reason they drafted 587 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: Trey Lance was because they wanted to get over the hump, 588 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: and I don't think with brock Purdy and his limitations 589 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: as an athlete coming off this elbow injury that they 590 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: are going to mention it over the hump. So they'll 591 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: be in the playoff contention like they are every year. 592 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: Still have a strong defense, but I would be betting 593 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: against brock Purty in the forty nine ers. 594 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: Colin, you want to chime in here on brock Perty. 595 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll regress, no question. I have Seattle winning the division. 596 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: It's been a very distracting off season. Trey Lance, Sam Donald. 597 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: I think Donald's a better too than Trey Lance, but 598 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: I think he pulls back. 599 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: They're very good. 600 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: Seattle is younger, healthier, gets better. Young players tend to 601 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: not get hurt as much, and when they do, they 602 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: heal faster. San Francisco is getting old, a lot of collisions, 603 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: kids window free, Trent Williams. So Seattle will get injured 604 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: like everybody else, the players will heal faster, and I 605 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: think the Niners will pull back. They'll be really good, 606 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: but they'll pull back, all right. 607 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 2: Answer this question with the name, who's the first NFL 608 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: head coach to go in twenty twenty three, who will 609 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: be relieved of his duties? Colin Coward, what do you have? 610 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: I think Ron Rivera their schedules tough early, they have 611 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: a new ownership. New owners always get their own GM 612 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: and their coach right right. They're not gonna blame Sam Howell. 613 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: He is what he is. 614 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: They're going to let him go. I also think at 615 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: some point they may move off players at the trade 616 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: deadline if they you know, they may want to get 617 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: in to the Caleb Drake may sweepstakes. What if they 618 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: start two and four? They may move off players. Ron 619 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: Rivera his fate is then sealed, right, you know? I 620 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: don't I think if Ron won seven games eight, we'd 621 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: go what a year? They'd still move off him. So 622 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: I think Ron Rivera's a choice. 623 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 2: All right. Before Colin gets to his five favorite surprise 624 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: players of twenty twenty three, I got one more question 625 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: for you, and this is a big one. You mentioned 626 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: him earlier in the show, Sean Payton. Can he turn 627 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: around the Broncos in one year? I know, we just 628 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: got news today about Jerry Judy's injury. Now we don't 629 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 2: have updates exactly what that is yet, so it's kind 630 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: of a loaded question, but I'll ask it anyway. Is 631 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: that co upgrade enough where the Broncos can get on 632 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: the right track or do they continue to struggle in 633 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 2: this very competitive AFC West. 634 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: I think they'll get on the right track, but that 635 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they'll make the playoffs. They were twenty ninth 636 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: than getting plays in on offense and defense. They were 637 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: a mess. They had to hire somebody to run the clock. 638 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: That's not going to be a problem. You will watch 639 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos and you will feel most Sundays they are 640 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: well coached and can win the game. But I don't 641 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: think they're going to win more than nine to ten games. 642 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: They're not going to win eleven, twelve, thirteen. So you 643 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: will see a well run, lubricated organization. You will think 644 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: that's a good team. Like the Chargers last year. I 645 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: don't think you'll think they're a super Bowl team. I 646 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: think there's too many injuries. I think you're asking Sean 647 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: to fix the culture, fix, the quarterback fix, the O line, 648 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: that fix. There's just too many fixes. So and there's 649 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: too many teams in the AFC who have maybe one 650 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: ask or one fix. They have three to four. So 651 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: they'll be a really good team, but. 652 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: Not great all right? Who could be great this year? 653 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: I know you put together all a list for us, 654 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: which is great. If you watch the Herd, you know 655 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: Colin's not above a good list once in a while. 656 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: I know I do. And look, you've got five names here, 657 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: maybe some honorable mentions to some guys you think you 658 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: could have really surprisingly good twenty twenty three. So who 659 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: is on that list for you going into this season? 660 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: I think Luke Muskgrave is a rookie tight end for 661 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Green Bay. I watched him because I'm from the Pacific Northwest. 662 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: I heard about him a couple of years ago at 663 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Oregon State. He got hurt before the USC game. It 664 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: didn't play, or the country would have seen him. Incredible 665 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: speed for a tight end. Young quarterbacks, Jordan Love love 666 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: tight ends. They drafted two. I think we're going to 667 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: see some young skill players in this league. Pop Luke 668 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: Musgraves one of them. Chris o'lave I think is going 669 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: to have a really interesting year. So first of all, 670 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: Ohio State's become an insane wide receiver school. My entire life, 671 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: Ohio State was known for linebackers, Russians. You know, it's like, 672 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: when did they become wide receiver? 673 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: You five six years? 674 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you go from Andy Dalton, Taysom Hill 675 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: to Derek Carr. That's a real upgrade. 676 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: And Derek. 677 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: Olave gets open sometimes Derek doesn't have the confidence to 678 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: throw people open, but Olave has the speed and twitchiness 679 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: to get open. I think he's going to have a 680 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: big year. Another player that they've been talking about in 681 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Brandon I Yuk. So Deebo gets hurt, Kittle 682 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: gets hurt, McCaffrey gets hurt. A Yuk is going to 683 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of catches and so much of this offense. 684 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: And Deebo can be a little It's not a negative. 685 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: He's a little emotional. Like if he gets dinged, he 686 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: may not want to play hurt, he may not want 687 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: the running back touches. Ayuk wants the bag. He wants 688 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: the touches, give me the ball. George Kittle is not 689 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: getting the bag in a Week five against the Rams, 690 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: right like Ayuk wants touches. And I think brought pretty 691 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: a young quarterback right, Garoppolo and Kittle were close. I 692 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: think pretty his guy is going to become Brandon Ayuk 693 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: and I think Brandon's a really good player Arizona State guy. 694 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: I think he's going to have some numbers. I wrote 695 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: this one down, although it's probably already baked in to 696 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: your business. I think Calvin Ridley is probably, you know, 697 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: recency biased. Nobody's seen him play. Kelvin Ridley's great like 698 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: route runner, speed, twitchy, the entire route tree, Doug Peterson's 699 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: second year. If you go back to Jacksonville last year, 700 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: you know they kind of sputtered around. They had to 701 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: clean up the urban Meyer mess, and it was about 702 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: week seven, week eight, week nine from like, I think 703 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: it was like week nine on Trevor Lawrence was better 704 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: than Patrick Mahomes and multiple numbers. Right, it's like, oh whoa, whoa. 705 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: Now they weren't as good as Kansas City, but Trevor 706 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: was carrying the load. So now Christian Kirk moves to 707 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: it too, which is already what he is. Evan Ingram 708 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be as dominant in that space. Travis 709 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: atn to me, has always been good at catching the 710 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: football a good duel back can do. 711 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 2: He doesn't. 712 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: He's not just a downhill guy. Calvin Ridley is one 713 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty catch guy, and I think in a 714 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: Wonky division Doug Peterson system. I mean, people really liked Doug. 715 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: I thought, if you look, if you went to the 716 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: last seven to eight games last year, the Steelers defense, 717 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: the Jags offense, it was like whoa, whoa whoa young quarterback, 718 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: different looking team than eight weeks ago. I think Calvin 719 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: Ridley's gonna have a big year. 720 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Really interesting though, because Calvin Ridley's guy started out 721 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: as a value and he's been climbing up the boards 722 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 2: here in our industry almost to the point where now 723 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: his ADP is going to a certain degree where he 724 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: has to return that value. Almost not quite there, but 725 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 2: just about on that tilt. I got one more player 726 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: because I know you had him down to Olave is 727 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 2: one of my favorite guys too. I want to get 728 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: your take on Kenny Pickett because this is one too 729 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: that has a lot of fantasy assets around him now, 730 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 2: whether it be Deontae Johnson, George Pickens, and obviously you 731 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: know Naji Harris, who was very good year one disappointing 732 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: last year. We can chalk that up to the O 733 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: line to inconsistent quarterback play. Do you think Pickett is 734 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: ready to make a jump. 735 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think Pickett's more mobile than people may understand. 736 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: He's not Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. But if you 737 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: go to last year's games, Kenny and the Steeters O 738 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: line has been really average. They just it's like Buffalo. 739 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: They have talent, they can't figure it out. And he 740 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: had to move last year. He's mobile, and so Kenny's 741 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna run for some touchdowns. 742 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 2: And I. 743 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: Love their roster, I really do. I don't know if 744 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: I love their offensive coordinator or their play calling, but 745 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: I love their roster. And I think, you know it's 746 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: funny at Burrow and Lamar and Deshaun Watson are getting 747 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: all the pub Pickett now moves into his prime. He's 748 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: comfortable in the stadium. He played college football. They won 749 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: seven of their last nine games. I don't see special, 750 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: But again, like Jordan, love the culture, the coach. You know, 751 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: with the Steelers defense, he's throwing when he wants to throw, 752 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: not when he has to throw. I mean, Pittsburgh's defense 753 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: is you're not getting in the mid twenties on that 754 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: He's not going to have to be in shootouts. He's 755 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: going to throw either leading or in situations where he's 756 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: not desperate. I think he's going to end up having 757 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: a nice year. He's going to get overshadowed in that 758 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: quarterback division and in the But Kirk Cousins has been 759 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: overshadowered for years. And I don't know how he plays 760 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: in fantasy, but puts up nice numbers year. 761 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 2: Over year QB nine last year in fantasy, and nobody cares. 762 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: And you know what he's going is right now. You 763 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: know he's going QB twelve. So he's the free quarterback 764 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: in your single quarterback league that you can draft basically whenever, 765 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: real quick too, because I know you got to get 766 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: out of here. I know you had one more name 767 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: on your list, Jordan Addison. Speaking of Kirk Cousins, your 768 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: ability to project a little bit of what Addison can 769 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: do taking the skill set from USC over here to Minnesota. Yeah. 770 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: So he's a good route runner. He's feisty for a 771 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: guy that's not considered a burner. At USC was always 772 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: wide open. It's like the Cooper Cup thing. It's like, 773 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: why is he so Jordan Nelson? Why is he so 774 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: wide open? Jordan got doubled at USC was always open. 775 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: Good hands, he's slight, he's not big. This may be 776 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: a guy that plays fourteen to fifteen games a year. 777 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: He'll never get doubled because of Justin Jefferson. He'll never 778 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: get doubled. So he'll beat single coverage. He's slippery, he 779 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: kind of explodes out of his routes. He's sneaky fast again, routes, hands, 780 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: deceptive speed. Really a quiet kid. Really, he came into 781 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: USC was a complete grown up. Just not distracted by 782 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: LA at all. Just may have been the quietest guy 783 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: in the team. So he's an adult. He'll come in 784 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: to that organization and he'll match Kirk Cousins because Justin's 785 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: got some flair, right, Like, this kid's a grinder. He'll 786 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: come in, he'll work hard. He'll make sixty four catches, 787 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: six touchdowns because you know Jefferson's going to take so 788 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: much of the coverage gets rolled over. So he's an 789 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: interesting one. I worry about his health because he's not big, 790 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: Like he is slightly slight, like devont Day Smith, like 791 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: really slight. 792 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed to one hundred percent 793 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: The volume