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<v Speaker 1>R and B Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Take BLOCHI. We are the authority on all things R

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<v Speaker 1>and D ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentin

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the rmy Money podcast. This sorry on

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<v Speaker 1>no Things R N B Oh. Yeah? Is it in

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<v Speaker 1>your soul?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You feel it? Can you can you feel it?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you feel it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is you?

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<v Speaker 1>Multi talented man? How can you write? Can you sing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you act it? Is it jazzy? Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Can we tap.

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<v Speaker 1>Into that to the renaissance? Yeah? Doesn't make you rise?

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't make you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>You're like you're like so cool. Like your energy is

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like the best energy in terms of how

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<v Speaker 1>you make people feel welcome, how you make people feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you care, how you make like it's like certain

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<v Speaker 1>people have that, you know what I mean, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this nurturing kind of instinctive like you're not it's

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<v Speaker 1>just you, you know what I mean? Like like even

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<v Speaker 1>your in your essence when you walk by and your smells.

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<v Speaker 4>I dont want to hang out of her house.

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<v Speaker 2>It does smell good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is that essence where I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to, you know, hang out of her house,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's some beads at your house. Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>felt you know, there's a jaguar somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>There's definitely the palasanto and the candles.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just for me, like that's how I was raised,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And those things like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just defined my childhood from it being my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>my great grandmother, my mother, my cousin, my uncle, my

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<v Speaker 1>great all in all in one house. I felt that

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that energy and that love and that spirituality,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just you carry that with you everywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. That's listen, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Matter what you got on jeans, right now, you got this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the whole.

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<v Speaker 5>I also have a broken ail.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to start this whole thing by just

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<v Speaker 2>admitting it so I don't have to hide my hands.

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<v Speaker 5>I was thinking about doing the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast because because the thing is that you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, or just to hit you with what I mean. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I did, bro, that's so random to say that. I

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<v Speaker 2>was literally with rants the other day and I'm terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trash.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, you play.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, I was a ballerina, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, drop a little three you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Drop a little ballerina that would drop a little tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen the terminology lets you further know that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>her thing. Yeah, I drop a little thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Shot exactly down, mom.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, no playing ball. That just they betrayed me today.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said you you you're a ballerina.

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<v Speaker 5>I was. Yeah, I danced for like twenty two years.

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<v Speaker 6>I was. I danced for twenty two years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how talented people thought. I didn't. That's how talented

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<v Speaker 1>people say. It's a miss stint in my life for

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<v Speaker 1>a year. I doubt I don't. I don't understand that

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 5>A Fortnite the.

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<v Speaker 1>London, England. They know who I am. Okay, fortnit it back?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you use it?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you you know? I have it for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>But I actually did decide on this album cycle I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to incorporate dance more. I miss it, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like it's like exercise regular for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy it, but dancing is what it's still a

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<v Speaker 2>passion of mine.

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<v Speaker 4>I would love Yeah, I am definitely to.

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<v Speaker 1>See you on stage doing that, Like I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to see a performance with that incorporated. Like always like

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<v Speaker 1>like like my daughter she modern, yeah, all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that from Harlem School of the Arts, professional

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<v Speaker 1>for more or like all of that, she has all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I'm like, we have to use.

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<v Speaker 5>All of it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Singing Pink on stage doing all of their so Lacey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting too, because I think we're kind of taught,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in music. It's like you have to do it

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<v Speaker 2>a certain way. But I also feel like now it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the wild West, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 2>look at even this album and like all the art

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<v Speaker 2>and the stuff surrounding it, the activations, I look at

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<v Speaker 2>it as like installations, right, our installations. So I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course you can incorporate dance, and it doesn't just

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<v Speaker 2>have to look like this and be a routine with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, certain costumes. It can be more interpreted, it

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<v Speaker 2>can like play with the music a little more.

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<v Speaker 5>So I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I think using everything is actually a lot more engaging

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<v Speaker 2>and interesting for the I like stuff like that, So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to like give that to people.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna need you to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, chop you go ahead, because absolutely not Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say no to you. Don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to say that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>The energy and your big time.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love I would love for you to dance

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<v Speaker 1>in the piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes for me, Yes, I definitely plan on doing that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're going yes, that's a yes for sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for for me? For me?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, okay, I would do that. Yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be crazy. I have just the thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so opposite, but it would be so dope.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see you visualizing it to be money.

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<v Speaker 5>So I already knows what happened, gone, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I got your permission already. He has all the dance

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<v Speaker 1>sh it in his head. I can't my body.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you can bring your elbows together.

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<v Speaker 1>Even I didn't know either, just now, can you?

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<v Speaker 2>I could definitely bring my albols together. I'm not buffing on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty tested.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, it's very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I couldn't do it. Can you do it?

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<v Speaker 5>That's crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>These niggas.

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<v Speaker 5>You feel bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, there's no drug testing, R and B music.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, no rules.

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<v Speaker 1>From trying to stay young. Let's do this. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the beginning. I start thinking, let's go the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning San Diego Southeast Southeast. That's so like, listen, listen, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't sweet. I've been Nick Cannon is down, Mitchie

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<v Speaker 1>Slick is the home I'm going on. Yeah, I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>you can come in green today.

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<v Speaker 5>No, look, there are a lot of colors out there though.

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<v Speaker 5>For sure. That's definitely yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when did you discover or when did someone

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<v Speaker 1>discover just kind of identify that, you know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>something something different.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I went I think actually when I was

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<v Speaker 2>fairly young. I was like about six years old. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I started dancing when I was like five, so

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<v Speaker 2>that was first. But my parents discovering that I could sing,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like six years old. I was just singing Whitney.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was singing a Whitney song and that

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<v Speaker 2>just they told me. They just remember me singing the

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<v Speaker 2>song and being like, oh, she kind of sound like

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like she's hitting the notes,

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<v Speaker 2>she's doing you know what I mean. But my father

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<v Speaker 2>actually has a really nice voice, and so does my mother,

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<v Speaker 2>but my mom's too shy, and you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>My dad, he was in the service you know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was like the first time, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>went to a performing arts school starting in the sixth grade.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like six to two senior year actually, same school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>same school the whole time. It was actually really cool

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<v Speaker 2>just because like you know, you use the word nurture,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did. They really nurtured just the creative arts.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a performing arts school, so we did shows,

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<v Speaker 2>we did plays, you know, I learned I did jazz,

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<v Speaker 2>vocal production, and classical and danced there as well too.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was at a fairly fairly young age six

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<v Speaker 2>and then really kind of dove into things when I

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<v Speaker 2>was like around ten eleven.

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<v Speaker 6>So did you decide to go or did your parents

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<v Speaker 6>let you decide to go to performing arts school or

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<v Speaker 6>was that something that was sought after?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was always So I went to it's

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<v Speaker 2>what's called a feeder school. I went to a school

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<v Speaker 2>called Valencia Park. Shoutout a VP, but I went to

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<v Speaker 2>a feeder school. It was like a few feater schools

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<v Speaker 2>in San Diego, Zamorano, Oak Park. Valencia Park was one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Oh fair well, and so it was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of always a known thing. I always loved dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>I always loved performing and I heard I knew about SEPA,

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<v Speaker 2>My parents knew about SEPA School for Creative and Performing Arts,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was kind of natural. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Valencia Park and it was a feeder school for that

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<v Speaker 2>performing arts school. I did dance at VP as well too,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's always.

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<v Speaker 5>Been a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I can't really pinpoint a moment of

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<v Speaker 2>like this is I'm gonna do this, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? It just has always been always. My parents

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<v Speaker 2>have always loved music, They've always loved the arts. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just think like it was always there was never

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<v Speaker 2>really a plan b EXCEP. For one time, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be a palaeontologist and then they were like you

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<v Speaker 2>should keep singing, and I was like all right, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was.

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<v Speaker 5>Dinosaurs. I was just like, oh my god, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have dinosaurs in San Diego?

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<v Speaker 5>They have a great they have a great zoo.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, amazing zoo.

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<v Speaker 2>They But did you know your mind, like when you're young,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm idiotd my mind go on tangents. I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a lawyer, you know what I mean. But and

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<v Speaker 2>I just like dinosaurs. But then they were like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>mainly you're just gonna have to dig through a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of dirt to find these skeletons. I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, I'm gonna just sing and I'm gonna singing dance,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only other thing you've ever wanted to do well.

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<v Speaker 5>When I was that age, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have, like there's a lot of companies and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that I'm doing and want to

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<v Speaker 2>do so Andvies became one of those things, producing movies, writing,

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<v Speaker 2>co directing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you were in like it's like my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>the same way, like getting this space where it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like early college where you're where you're like you're hyper

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<v Speaker 1>focused on that thing. Like, yeah, I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>go to a school, you know, uh performing our school,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have a football team.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine didn't either. But because we didn't have a football team,

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<v Speaker 2>you were allowed to play for other schools in the area,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you could choose. So if I wanted to play for.

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<v Speaker 1>In high school, yea and high school, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like Lincoln Park, I could play for Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 6>It was two man niggas walking around smoking cigarettes with

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<v Speaker 6>church for me to go to school to the arts.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I want to say, that's completely inaccurate, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I don't know what y'all doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>No football.

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<v Speaker 1>You can pick though, at least in California. I didn't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in California it's like Maryland.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you go it was if you go to

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<v Speaker 6>a school of the yards, the un lets, you pick

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<v Speaker 6>what high school you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Play sports for everything.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so we'll still get the experience, okay, because you

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<v Speaker 6>don't you know, you can't be with the band niggas

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<v Speaker 6>and the hoop team.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be all. Yeah. I just needed a different experience.

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<v Speaker 1>My high school was horrible, fire shooting. We played football

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<v Speaker 1>in basketball was like y'all gated No, we was gated up.

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<v Speaker 1>They had it was east Side High the front of

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<v Speaker 1>the school, no front of we had. We had chains

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<v Speaker 1>on the door so you can get out of one door.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I'm saying, you knew what that was. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was different. But see I was also the church kid,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know what I'm saying that all the people

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know they love me. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it was like blessings.

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<v Speaker 2>That the one door.

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<v Speaker 1>Protect right protector in these church that say protect They

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<v Speaker 1>needed me because I was the prayer royer. So at

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<v Speaker 1>what point do you say it should be a profession,

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<v Speaker 1>because even as you're being groomed in this space, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still just you know, it's still just love at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, It's still just.

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<v Speaker 5>It's still it's definitely love.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the school that I went to, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, it was singing at home, singing

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<v Speaker 2>in church, singing in school, like and but it was

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<v Speaker 2>such The school was amazing, honestly, you know, you really

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<v Speaker 2>got familiar with putting on a stage show.

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<v Speaker 5>It was Broadway focused. That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have friends, amazing friends. A good friend of my,

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<v Speaker 2>Shandra Prophet, made it all the way to Broadway. She's

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<v Speaker 2>in The Lion King, you know, and so so it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of really geared toward that. And you got

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<v Speaker 2>to see the whole production, and you got to do

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<v Speaker 2>the music and the dancing and you know, learn the lines.

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<v Speaker 2>But the kids did also the production. They did behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes, you know what I mean, They were the

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<v Speaker 2>lighting tesests. Yeah, it was really it was really like

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<v Speaker 2>all encompassing. So so the school kind of geared you

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<v Speaker 2>toward doing that as a profession, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it was just like do I want to dance?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I want to do Broadway? Or do I want

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<v Speaker 2>to And I think around the age of sixteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>was really clear that I was like, now I really

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<v Speaker 2>want to be a recording artist, Like I want to

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<v Speaker 2>write my own music. I want to I like the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of creating and kind of forging my own path,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So, plus, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie to you. I was like, how

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<v Speaker 2>much do you get paid not being a principal on Broadway?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm good. This is R and B money, right, Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was cool. I love like it was just

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<v Speaker 2>the passion of creating things, making things and just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just loved, you know, the work of so many

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<v Speaker 2>artists and that really inspired me. And so I'm like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>they're writers, those people are making their music there, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, And that's that's what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 6>This It was about like sixteen, any things that you

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<v Speaker 6>were connected to in San Diego that kind of gave

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<v Speaker 6>you an inkling of what the business was.

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<v Speaker 5>M that's a good question.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that I was connected to, oh you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>again it was still more theater based. Like there was

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<v Speaker 2>a there was a theater that I would do during

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<v Speaker 2>the summertimes. It was called like Theatre Noir, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was this director and he would just put on shows.

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<v Speaker 5>He did Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>I did Fame there, I did uh Boogie Knights, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just kind of like a Medley show. I met

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<v Speaker 2>some managers. I went to a few studios. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>used to record with a few producers out there. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know San Diego is on Peter pan Av

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't Skyline, I don't know Peter. That's good, no,

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<v Speaker 2>But uh yeah, so I don't know, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that there were things that gave me an inkling.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just very I was obsessed with it, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So I feel like I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking up stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 6>And because I asked you that, because going to school

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<v Speaker 6>of the arts, right, and I think people feel as

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<v Speaker 6>if from putting their kids in these types of schools,

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<v Speaker 6>obviously you learn the arts, yeah, but then at some

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<v Speaker 6>point you got to learn the business.

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<v Speaker 2>Business Yeah, the business was definitely on the ground, like

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<v Speaker 2>that was experience, you know what I mean. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there were things in San Diego, but there were things.

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<v Speaker 2>There was just some things that when you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of this your whole life, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, I'm looking at it from the other side, right,

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<v Speaker 2>things are so different now. But it was like a

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<v Speaker 2>record label is the best thing to have, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to get a manager and you gotta you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So it was like trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>people in San Diego, and I had like a manager

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<v Speaker 2>out there, but he was kind of an unofficial manager,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of funny because figuring it out on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground kind of you have good experiences like I won't

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it made my skin a little bit thicker, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you also have experiences that you're like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want my kids to go to and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want you know what I'm saying. Like, so, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was it was just I always wanted it. So it

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<v Speaker 2>was like wherever I have to go, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and whatever I have to do. I would

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<v Speaker 2>kind of try to get money together to travel up

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<v Speaker 2>to La as much as I could, you know, to sing, and.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I was telling people.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like the thing at a certain time was

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<v Speaker 2>like you get into a party and then you got

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<v Speaker 2>to meet somebody famous, so you can get them you're down,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like that's what you would think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Or printing CDs and I

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<v Speaker 2>would sell them on the beach in San Diego or

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<v Speaker 2>like you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's just whatever I did the whole thing, that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, definitely. And I put on like shows

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<v Speaker 2>I did something at it's actually the Grove in Anaheim.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember at the time I was opening for it

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<v Speaker 2>was like San Diego. So I was opening for Polladanda

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<v Speaker 2>and Baby Bash like that whole exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, and I had to put everything together, had to

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<v Speaker 2>do the booking. I was kind of like my own

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<v Speaker 2>promo person and was hoping to meet people through that.

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<v Speaker 2>Put together the background singers and the show and the

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<v Speaker 2>track and the all of the promo materials.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's really when I try to recap it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really like it's there's a lot of tentacles. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really nebulous because it was just like, cool, if this good, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Gonna go do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>It's probably a long way around, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, it's it's actually like you didn't skip. You

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't skip. No steps, no steps. Yeah, it's some

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<v Speaker 1>little steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon steps and then going to like you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>used to have the like modeling agencies and the acting agencies,

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<v Speaker 2>the John Robert Powers and what's the other one, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the Casablanca or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a cattle call people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you're young, you just this is this. Every

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity felt like the opportunity and the big shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever go there?

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<v Speaker 6>Yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I got convinced. I got convinced to go to one thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed for five minutes. I was like, I hell no, broke.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not close.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like auditioning, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>for for parts. But it's like like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>auditions I walked in to. You know, of course it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big call, and I'm like when I see the

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<v Speaker 1>big call and I see all these people, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I can take that. But then but then you see

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<v Speaker 1>an a lister walk in, You're like, what you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going on for that party? Like I remember, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember who it was. They walked Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>who was it they walked in and I walked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot remember who it was. It was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>somebody though it was it was like why I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get an autograph. I want to take a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're here for the same spot. So rather than

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<v Speaker 1>like lose my cool, I'm gonna just get on out

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<v Speaker 1>of here because I know, damn well, yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the thing I went to is like he supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the background of something, and I was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, you're going to be in the background

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<v Speaker 1>of some independent movie.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna pay you forty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I would go to these audition things are like great,

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<v Speaker 2>now all you have to do is pay us seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars for pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be like, I think I have seven dollars, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just everybody. It's like again, when you're young like that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like every opportunity seems but.

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<v Speaker 6>It also separates who really wanted and who doesn't. I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't want to be that, you know what. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>it was just another that at that particular moment for me,

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<v Speaker 6>was just a hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to sell more drugs. You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Prison wasn't where I wanted to be. So I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I gotta stop selling dope. I'm gonna go out here

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<v Speaker 6>and think I'm gonna be an actor in the back

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<v Speaker 6>of somebody's movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, that's real. And that was the thing at the

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<v Speaker 5>time too, You're right. It was for modeling. Acting.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't my focus. But I thought, well that could

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<v Speaker 2>be a way into me. I can meet somebody and

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So it's just all all connected,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? But now, oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a song called is It Love?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it love? That makes you feel this way? She

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<v Speaker 5>love Love Love Love. Yeah, it was a song I wrote.

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<v Speaker 6>I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I was probably like I was, oh, you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the first solo song I wrote. I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, well, you were in sixteen. I was

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<v Speaker 5>about to be seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was sixteen, I was in a group with

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<v Speaker 2>like like a few homegirls in high school and we

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<v Speaker 2>were called Intimate, Intimate, Intimate Yeah, now, yeah, so we

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<v Speaker 2>had our little groups. We wrote some things together, but

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<v Speaker 2>the main one I wrote was that that is it

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<v Speaker 2>Love was the first one that I wrote, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was also in actually very very briefly, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>like they weren't really I think the group was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of disbanding at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>But I had auditioned that one of their members was

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<v Speaker 5>leaving for the group. Remember the R and B group

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<v Speaker 5>isis back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so they one of their members had had left,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they were auditioning people and then I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up getting the part. But we never really did anything

0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 2>because I think they were kind of disbanding at this point.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, like I said, I was down. I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>I was do it, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 5>your first.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound way better than mine. Your first song sounded.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, that was definitely ABC.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not giving a b C. That is like

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<v Speaker 1>we should do that, now give it.

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<v Speaker 5>But I didn't know. I wasn't in love. I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>this feel right? Is in love?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, you know my favorite I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 5>this in here. Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you're going through all these progressions, of course,

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 1>not skipping any steps in anywhere to get it? When when?

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:51.879
<v Speaker 1>When is when it? Where's your discovery?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that was I actually started working with this

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 2>manager that which was I will I say names it

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>was actually you listen.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a terrible experience, but still some good things

0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 5>came from it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I won't I will say that, but I

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 2>do say that because I always like to remind people

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.280
<v Speaker 2>like those experiences can happen, but they don't have to

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 2>take you out, you know what I'm saying. So, so

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 2>my my big break actually really came through Stevie Wonder

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 2>that he's kind of like like I look at him

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 2>as like my godfather when it comes to the business

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and singing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, didn't get expensed.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were in l A at this point though

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<v Speaker 1>you no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I was still in San Diego at the time.

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I was just commuting back and forth, you know, It's like,

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:43.720
<v Speaker 2>and so I was working with this manager and he

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 2>happened upon actually Kyle Miller Morris who was his wife

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.239
<v Speaker 2>at the time, with Stevens all the time, and they

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 2>were just in a pastry shop, he says, And I

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 2>had come up to La to sing. I was singing

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>in front of a couple of songs that I wrote,

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It was kind of like

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>a retro soul vibe to it, and I was singing

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a couple of songs I wrote at a rip mall

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and Malibu. I look, we was just still there and

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:04.960
<v Speaker 2>in front of like some shoe store, and so he

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 2>just had some clips to that.

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<v Speaker 5>So he played it.

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 2>For her while she was in there, and then she

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>revealed to him after she saw it. She was like, well,

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually Stevie Wonder his wife.

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<v Speaker 5>I love this. I want to play it for him,

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 5>you know.

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 2>So she played it for him and he actually really

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>liked it, and so they orchestrated a call, which I'm

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:19.200
<v Speaker 2>in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you something.

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm in San Diego sitting my mother's entire apartment.

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 5>It was definitely smaller than this room.

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, it's about the size,

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>and this would have been luxury lower the roof closing

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>the walls. That's like my mother's spot. So I was

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.399
<v Speaker 2>sleeping on her futon and it was just like a

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 2>tiny little apartment behind seven.

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 5>To eleven, next to a dumpster, you know.

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.439
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm sitting there on the phone with Stevie

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Wonder like, hey, and he's like talking about a certain

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 2>type of song he wants to write and asking me

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 2>about my music. And he was asking me like detailed

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>stuff like wow, you know, I think he loved that

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 2>it had like the sort of retro soul and jazzy

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 2>or feel to it, and so we would ask me

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 2>things like how come they're only two minutes long? And

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I love that he clocked that because I loved some

0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 2>of the records that I love from Billie Holliday and

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 2>people back in the day were sit order, you know

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, And I love it was just a taste.

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 2>And then he talked about this song that he wanted

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>to do with me. He also asked me what my

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.679
<v Speaker 2>sign was and went into that for a while. And

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>then my mother was like, do the dishes, and I

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm actually super busy right now, I'm on

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the phone with Stevie.

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 5>So for me, yeah, no, I still.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 2>So she did not believe me, and right, yeah, and

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I got exactly but no.

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 5>So that was really so.

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 2>But to that point, it didn't end up working out

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>at the time, and what I was told was that

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 2>they didn't like you.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 5>You weren't good enough.

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.560
<v Speaker 5>The conversation wasn't good enough us? Okay, you know what

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 5>the music?

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I was told from the person I

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>was working with at the time. So I didn't find

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.439
<v Speaker 2>out until a year later when my idea was up

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 2>with that manager. They held onto my information, Kai and

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Stevie and they reached out to me again and were like, hey,

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 2>we hope you're not still with this person, And they

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>explained to me what happened, which is that he told

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 2>them like they have to pay something like fifty thousand

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 2>just to just to meet me in the studio, you know.

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:04.959
<v Speaker 5>What I mean.

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't know about that. I just thought I

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't good enough, and it is what it is, you

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. So I say that because that's

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 2>why I say, like things like that don't have to

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>be the end, you know what I mean. Like, so

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 2>they actually introduced me to my producer who did my

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.959
<v Speaker 2>first record, and so that's the rest of us kind

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>of like history from there. Yeah, so very grateful.

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>God, Yeah, I just that's just that's the unfortunate part

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of this business. Just sometimes we just we go through

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>things like that with people who just have very heartless

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>individuals in this business, and you know, I attribute it

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to them just not having any talent, not having any gifts. Yeah,

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and so when it becomes a thing where you'll do

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.959
<v Speaker 1>anything for money, like you that's the thing, you'll do

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>anything to people, Yeah, you know.

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think sphere, I think it's really truthfully, at

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 2>the root of it is a fear based you know

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Like you just don't you have to

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 2>get yours by any means necessary, and you don't think

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>you'll ever have something or you don't you got to

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 2>hold on to it because you're scared if you lose it,

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff as well. I think it's definitely

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.479
<v Speaker 2>like a fear thing, you know what I'm saying, Like,

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 2>which I think is what kind of like makes me

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>have empathy, you feel me Like, I go, all right, cool,

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I could sit and be mad at this person and

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 2>be like but I'm like, you know what, You're just scared,

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, And that's where you're operating from.

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So I hope you God willing, you know what I'm saying,

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 2>by his grace, I hope you find a way.

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 5>Out of that, you know what I mean. Yeah, So I.

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:39.159
<v Speaker 7>Haven't take that however you want to.

0:27:41.640 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Squashing, I don't wish you well, that's a balance, I

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>get it. That is our balance.

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 5>That's why this works. I like exactly.

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, understand you, right that. So

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>they introduced your producer, who does your first single, your first.

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Album, first album? So that was Adrian Gerbitts was his name.

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 2>He was a producer. He was a very unknown producer

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>as far as I knew here out of London, you

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. He was an English dude, and

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 2>so it was just you know, he just he loved

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>my voice. He was passionate about it, you know. And

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and then and so we did the record together. And

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>then from there I was introduced. We did kind of

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>the label circuit and we're like, you know, doing the

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of this meeting with the labels.

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 5>Everybody was doing this with no no a lot of

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 5>the time.

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, he was. He was more hands on

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 2>with this. But and then from there I was introduced

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>to Rafael Sadik, who also like produced, So it was

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Adrian Gravitz and Rafael Sadek that produced my first record.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was cool. It was you know, things

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>were happening. I was like, okay, can you know what

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean after all this time, like.

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Rafael still ain't done no record for me.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 5>Let's okay, let's put it on wags right now.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Ray, I would have really love to do a record.

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 5>No, he's amazing. Yeah, he's really amazing.

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's so cool too, Like he's really He let

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 2>me sit in there and mix the record too, you

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. I had some people mixing it.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 2>But I can be huh. I can be quite controlling

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.959
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'm working on me, but so I need there's

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>just details that I wanted to hear. So he let

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>me sit in there with his mixed engineers Jerry Bobby Campbell,

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>uh Ari, and we just kind of mixed the record

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and worked together, and then he worked on songs with

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>music weal two. So yeah, he's amazing. He's definitely someone

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm always gonna work with. He did music with billy

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>billy music with musical too.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And what was the call out from the first album?

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 5>What was the first track? Yeah, oh, the first thing.

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was a song called rise Up Yeah.

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Put your Order in three Booth, which I would tell.

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>You was not on the album originally, by the way,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that was a very that was a last minute addition

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>to the record.

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wrote that the album was done already.

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 5>It was done, completely done.

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so, and I had been doing the whole

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I was actually really I think tired, Like you said,

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>no skip steps, you know what I mean. So by

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>this point I was just like, oh my, I'm with

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>the label now and I'm going to these sessions and

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>writing all these songs, but the album is done and

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not loving what we're coming up with and all

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the things.

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 5>So I forgot.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>I had done a session with this lady named Jendall

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Sevio and we did Rise Up. And so when I

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>was in the meeting with Warner, they were like, hey,

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, we love it, blah blah blah, but we

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>really want to play you a song. And I was like,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.479
<v Speaker 2>they were like, you wrote it. I was like, well,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>let me hear it. Put it on the love put

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>it on it. I mean, let me if you said

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I wrote I was right because I was like at

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>this point, I was like side eye and everybody. So

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>and they played it and I was like, oh, it

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>like kind of just quieted the room for a second.

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, no, it was just very very apparent.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this absolutely has to be on the album,

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>absolutely has to be the first single. They tried to

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>go in and do do the drums remix and get

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the big DJs, the and all the stuff to put

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the stuff on there, you know, but I was just

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the whole time was just kind of like, ya, I

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>think the song is like what it is, you know

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like, I think the song is like

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>this is who I am, and so it just nothing

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 2>ever worked, nothing ever sat properly. So it just what

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>it what exactly what we made it to be is

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>what ended up out there and what people heard.

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I have one question about it. Each other, Yeah, well.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 5>It just felt better. I mean, what what was the

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 5>thing is that? Because I wanted to.

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Time it comes on, I'm like, you know what each other.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I had this thing that I was really like, I

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>wanted to play with vowel sounds, and I wanted to

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>do I don't like the feeling of like no no

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 2>either that or I was just like really like wold

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and but I just I like playing with vowel sounds,

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm like, you know what if I just

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>twist this vowel a little bit, or twist certain things

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>and it feels better like that. The other part is

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if I really love the performance of something,

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like the feeling of the

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>performance of it, and I'm like, I'll try to reapproach it. Yeah,

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, it's probably just gonna have to have

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 2>that mistake in there if I'm really like, I can't.

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I can sing it better, but I can't get that film. Yeah,

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't get that feeling.

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>But that's not a mistake, that's feeling.

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a feeling, and I think at the time,

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>so I was very much I was like, I just

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>want to sing and things that sound weird, not that

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>it's for weird sake, but just because, like you know,

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I just hate being limited, like this is how I

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>sing and I have to sing this way. And I'm like, yeah,

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>but I'm I'm feeling like changing the place I'm singing

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.239
<v Speaker 2>from or so I'm experimenting with stuff like that.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 5>Honestly. Yeah, I had to ask, you know what I mean?

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>So rise Up just goes crazy. Yeah, it just goes.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>It goes crazy. Like my daughter Jordan at her graduation,

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>she that's the solo she sang for her graduating class.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I cried a little bit, you know, I cried crazy,

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you cry crazy. I cried enough, But it was but

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>it was just like the song and that the moment,

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>like all of these things, the song is such a

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>defining moment for so many moments, like not skipping the steps.

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel a sense of like finally, when when

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>this record becomes because this is a different level of

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>hit record.

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, different level global.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>It's global, it's it's on TV. Yeah, it's American Idol,

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:12.320
<v Speaker 1>it's it's everywhere. Yeah, that's not a normal hit record.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>That is a phenomenon.

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 5>Wow. Yeah I got the I got.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>The account to prove it.

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:24.360
<v Speaker 5>I really know.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes I did. Actually Actually, to be honest with you,

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>that's what I always tell people.

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 5>I was like, I really you know what I mean.

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 5>It's not just like fake humble tip.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 2>It's just like like we freestyled it right, which sounds like, okay,

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a flex But it was one of those things that

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>I realized like like when we freestyled, not the whole thing,

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 2>but like most of it, like rise up, do it

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 2>a thousand times again. It was just she was playing

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 2>these chords and it's like it's just simple chords, simple

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 2>four chords, you know what I mean, repetition whatever. And

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I literally prayed. I prayed when I

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>was in the car, and I was like, God, I

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 2>don't even want to be here, to be honest with you,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I was like, friend, it

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>had been diagnosed with cancer, like you know, just weren't

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 2>happening in the career, and it just felt like such

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 2>a long time, and like I think it was the

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>first time. I started to be like, is this not

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 2>going to happen, Like, you know, I don't know what

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>else to do. I don't know, you know. And so

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I just prayed and I was like, Lord, just you speak,

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I don't want just like

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 2>you inhabit the space you speak and let whatever come out.

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>So she started playing these chords and I just started singing,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of the song I have it.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 5>I'll find it at some point, I'll find it. I'll

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 5>send it to you.

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 2>A lot of the song came out just in that

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>first kind of like playing around take and so I

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 2>would tell people, I'm like, yeah, I did write it,

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 2>but like it was definitely you know, the moments where

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.439
<v Speaker 2>you're clear you're a vessel, you know what I'm saying,

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>And you're like, okay, so that's why you know the

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 2>song doing what it did. I I will say, like, yes,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 2>it felt like yes finally, but it also felt like

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 2>whoa that I didn't expect you know what I'm saying

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>like that, I did not anticipate it. I didn't anticipate

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 2>it doing what it does for people, or like being

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the anthem for Black Lives Matter. I didn't anticipate it,

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I'll put it like this, I didn't anticipate it

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 2>being like life changing and saving. Like when we do

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 2>tours and we do like meet and greets, right, I

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 2>always tell my team because they'd be like, Andrew, you

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, meet and greets, Like we got

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>to get out of here. But I'm like, my nigga,

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 2>who do I rush the nigga who's like parent was

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 2>diagnosed with cancer or the nigga who just tried to

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 2>kill herself, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm like,

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>so it's like I get a lot of that and

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>it's amazing where you would think it would depress you.

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>It just re reminds me of like the power of music.

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Which I believe is at its core. I believe it

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 2>was designed to be healing. But I get people all

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>the time it's like, wow, I was literally going to

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>kill myself. I listened to your song. I did, and

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wow, you know what I'm saying, Like, or

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I just or I was had the bottle of pills,

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 2>or I had this, or I'm going through depression, or

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I lost a family member or I had one family.

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Say this woman she was diagnosed with cancer. We were

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 2>on stage and we brought her up and so we

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 2>just had the audience. We just prayed over her. You know.

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 2>She did end up passing away, and then her family

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, you know, her request is that you're

0:36:58.800 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>there during her dying moment.

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 5>And so it was like me, her and her family,

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 5>and I.

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Was like, like, you know, it's one of those things

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>that you're like, you guys, I really don't you know

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I feel like this feels very intrusive,

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 2>and I don't, but you're just reminded like it's not

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 2>about you. They just want what they believe that spirit is,

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, like, And so I definitely

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>did not anticipate it doing what it did, and I'm

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>super super grateful.

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, amazing record. Thank you.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I was just when you said, like, who do I rush,

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, rush, Yeah, I'm so connected.

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 5>You're like, sorry, I'm busy. We have to you know

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 5>what I mean.

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, spot, it's hard because this person has been

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>waiting since they heard the song, you know what I mean,

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to come to this show for however long, the year, whatever,

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>and has this heavy, heavy story and that's what they

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 2>want to get off. And so it's hard to be like,

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't have time to hear your life change, you

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. I'm like, it's you just got

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 2>to make time. You gotta figure it out, you know

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying.

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think because a lot of times we're on

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 1>the other side of it, we're so we're so used

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>to just just ring and bing the vessel and just

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>doing what we're called to do that we never really

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>get to stop and and kind of visualize and understand

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the effects of what we do, like to really have

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>those conversations, like I really just I just make it

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>a point to just just stop and talk to anybody,

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, just see where it's going

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's like he said, some of the craziest conversations,

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>some of the craziest connections. And then for me, like

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Jai'll tell you, like I've never met a stranger, I'll

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>just treat connection.

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 5>I can see that, and I like that.

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.240
<v Speaker 1>We'll just talk till we figure out some common ground.

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>When I first met you all those years ago, that's

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you were so nice. It was actually

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.360
<v Speaker 2>me and Ed Sheeran. I don't know if you remember

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 2>that night, no way, it was before he blew up.

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy, you know, he was docular. Yeah, he

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 2>was doing his circular singing dah da dada, and all

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>the ladies in the audience was like, oh my god,

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>this white boy ginger. It's like my brawls off and

0:38:59.680 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>throw it.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 5>It was crazy. Yeah, the night was nuts, and you

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 5>were just so kind and so cool, and I.

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Believe it was that that was a time to We

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>used to have a time at Army.

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was so fun. It was so fun. It

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 5>got crazy when he went to the Key Club too.

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember so many nights. I remember we saying jeousy.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.160
<v Speaker 1>One night, it was a Grammy night. I think it

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>was we say the Grammy Knights, Lonnie, I think texts

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>he Joousy. I remember when Brandy sang and all the

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>dudes and was in the corner hugging each other like

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it was just like they were funning over Brandy, like Brandy,

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>like Christopher Williams. You know what I'm saying, pull it

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>up on the motorcycle. God knows what his book bag.

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I said, don't touch my bag, nigga, shout

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>out Christopher Williams. He is not a game. I gotta

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>get here on it. But that time, it was like,

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what a time.

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 4>And I said, one of the steps.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, It's one of the steps,

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I think that, and it's like very fond memories.

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 2>So it was a long journey, but I'm they're all

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>fond memories, you know what I'm saying. So like and

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 2>meeting you for the first time too, because I was

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>just a big fan of your voice and your music

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, wow, he's just so cool. You know,

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>that felt like another step, This is my big opportunity,

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, Yeah, yeah, I know it was. It was

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.720
<v Speaker 2>actually that experience was amazing. So yeah, that was actually

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 2>when I first met you is there.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Tour after that? Is? Did we do we go straight

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 1>on a world tour?

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Like after we after we dropped the album? Oh, actually,

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:37.320
<v Speaker 2>how fast? I don't remember how quickly. My memory is terrible.

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember how quickly we went on tour after that.

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I think it was fairly quickly. Actually after we released

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 2>the Yeah, no, we started touring pretty immediately. But my

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>first tour was opening actually for Lenny Kravitz, which I

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 2>thought was just like, so, yeah.

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Some tequila.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 6>Listen, So it's gonna be it's gonna be one of

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 6>the nights I'm gonna easy to just keep coming back, could.

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 5>You right hand?

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Flat?

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 2>No, it was actually, well, it's funny. Touring with Lenny

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>was an amazing experience. A he was just really amazing

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 2>and it was just like mister sir Kravitz.

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it was great.

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Touring with him just because it was a great experience

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 2>learning a lot watching him. Also what was really interesting

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 2>too was just to see like his audience. You know

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, It's a really really I had no

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>idea who was going to show up and who would

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 2>be in the audience each city we showed up, you

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, So it was like really interesting

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 2>to be surprised by like the diversity and like the

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 2>group of people in his audience. I was like, Okay,

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>this is really interesting, Like you know, he's like tapped

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 2>something here, and so it was just I mean, he's

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a legend, and so it was just great watching him

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 2>how he manured with his band and with you know

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, like and he runs a tight ship

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 2>in a great way, and then he puts on a

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 2>great show because of that, you.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 5>Know what i mean.

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Like, but the first time, I'm not gonna lie to

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the first night I was tricked on that tour because

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the first night I got to it was Toronto. Toronto

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.399
<v Speaker 2>was the first date and that was the first time

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I had been to I think it was the first

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 2>time I had been in Canada. But I get in

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>my hotel room and I'm like, nigga, I opened the

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>door and I close it back cause I was like,

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, like I accidentally opened the wine cellar, you

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. I went, so I got to

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 2>had to go back get the key and doll stuff,

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 2>and they were like, no, that was your room. I

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>opened it up. I was like, no, the wine cellar

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 2>was just a huge middle section. My room was massive.

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is the biggest thing I've ever

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>been in in my life.

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 5>It was so huge.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>It had multiple rooms with a pool table and an

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>entertainment room and it had a whole wine nigga. I

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 2>was like, is this Did they accidentally give me Drake

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 2>sweet Like? I was like, this is so nigga. I

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, what is going on? And then we get

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 2>to the first day of tour and they had this

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 2>huge spread and they was like all of this charcouterie

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 2>boards and seafood and you know what I'm saying, like everything.

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>It was like so amazed. I was like, yo, tours

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 2>lit like I don't know what Michael Jackson was talking about.

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 5>That shit fire Like amazing. You know, I love tour.

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 5>But next tour day I was like it was me

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 5>in a roach in my time at the hotel.

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, road, that's for you, bro.

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 2>The first day had me up. I was like, I've

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>some trouble right now. That second day was very clear.

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 5>I was like, what is all.

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 1>That I've been in rooms?

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't take my sweat, I'm not sleep standing up

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the room. I stood like to

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 2>be like, Jay, is the day room exactly. I was like,

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>day room, but these bad bugs are gonna last for

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks.

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I'm not sleeping in here.

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 5>We're the same when the coups of that, oh, we're

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 5>definitely I'll go back for that.

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Because they got a book hotels, Correc got a book

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 2>hotel all the time, and I'd be.

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm like, bro, it's fine, it's the days in,

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's the upgraded version, upgraded days.

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 4>In the day.

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 5>Wait, what's the days in? What's the upgraded days in?

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, hotel.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying.

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 1>So as you walk you just know it's chicken.

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.040
<v Speaker 5>I feel so bad. I feel bad.

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 2>They walk into a room and they could look around

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and they look at me. They they'd be like, we're

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 2>not staying here. Don't even drop a bag, We're leaving immediately.

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:11.399
<v Speaker 2>I just yeah, dirtiness, it's more you.

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 5>Travel, you just be like, bro, niggas are dirty. Bro,

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 5>planes are dirty.

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.280
<v Speaker 6>Some cities you go to they don't have free stars.

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 6>You know, many times a promoter has said that to

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 6>me on the phone. You're right, yeah, and I'm like, yeah,

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 6>so how far is the nearest four.

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 4>Or five stars city?

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 6>Right, let's the contracts running four stars are better.

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 2>So you were like, what's the nearest city so we

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 2>can read route the day and give me a two

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 2>hour commute time.

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 5>Because I'm like, no.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember plenty of nights where because you know I sleep.

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 5>In the suv. I was sleeping the suv before I.

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Was big South.

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yeah, in two thousand, two.

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Thousand, and I remember many nights, God rest his soul brother,

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Window was sleeping in the chair in his room. In

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the chair. Yep, I can't get in that bed.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm not doing it. No way, I'm not doing it.

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing me. I'm but nig in sept I

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.680
<v Speaker 1>can't know there we got in the morning.

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm not mad at you, because that's why you sound

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 5>the way you say.

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>You prioritize sleep. I was like, they gonna get this

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hour no sleep performance. I was like, I

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.240
<v Speaker 2>am not getting in it because some things last a lifetime.

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>You never know, you know what I'm saying. I'm like

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 2>something some bikes. Yeah, I'm not mad at it.

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I didn't get spoiled they.

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 5>Would have started with the Roach Hotel, I would have

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 5>been good. You know what I'm saying. But I was like,

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 5>I know, but.

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I also started as the background singer too, so I

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't part of the A group. I was part of

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the B group, So you know what I'm saying. It

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>was definitely motel life where you just walk out of

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.919
<v Speaker 1>your room outside. You know what I'm saying.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 5>You're right, You're right yet so.

0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>For me, it was just like, okay, this is no.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit of that in me too, because

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 2>there are moments now that I think about it, I

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, there were moments like we just started out.

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I would literally be asleep on coats on the airport floor,

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So yeah, that's something I

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>would never do that, would never do that. Now, I'm

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie. I'm terrified, you know what I mean.

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 2>People's feet, but.

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:27.319
<v Speaker 5>Everyone has their everybody it has Yes, I don't know, like.

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you were a big questions give me.

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>You dropped the bottom.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 5>I feel you a little bit. I feel you all

0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 5>that definitely.

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you go crazy on tour. Is the movie

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.320
<v Speaker 1>next or the movie comes after your next project?

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.279
<v Speaker 5>Uh no, the movie came right after.

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.719
<v Speaker 2>So this is actually the album that we're releasing is

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 2>only my second album, Like it's just been such a

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 2>long time. So the movie actually came like after we

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 2>did the whole album, so like, and we did a

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 2>couple of tours too. I did a solo tour as well,

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 2>and then we toured with Leon Bridges and so yeah,

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 2>we did a few tours and festivals and we did

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 2>the whole circuit, you know what I mean. It was

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 2>an amazing experience, and it just because of the nature of

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Rise Up, it honestly just kept going and kind of

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 2>does keep going.

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 5>Like I tell people, this sounds so bad, y'all. I

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 5>don't even know.

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I'd say this, but Rise Up is sometimes I feel

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 2>bad because I'm like, Okay, I gotta, We're just we gotta.

0:47:45.160 --> 0:47:46.479
<v Speaker 5>We just donate, you know what I'm saying.

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.279
<v Speaker 2>And we gotta donate because I'm like, Rise Up will

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 2>stream and it's amazing because the song has that power

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>and it's oftentimes people are like I need this to

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>get through this moment or yeah. But like during the

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Black Lives Matter movement in the march, if there's a

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 2>huge crisis that happens. Oftentimes it was Skyrocket because it

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.759
<v Speaker 2>just becomes the song of them are feeling bad. I'm like,

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is like a war weapon, like

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I need to do something with this. So it lasts

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of The Psycho lasted quite a long time. And

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.840
<v Speaker 2>then so once we kind of really finished, and I

0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 2>really decided in myself too, I was like, Okay, I'm

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 2>grateful for this, but I really want now.

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 5>I want to start working on new music.

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm in that place, you know, And what I wanted

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>to do this time was like I wanted to produce

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.800
<v Speaker 2>more on this project, and I wanted to I loved

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 2>my touring band, like they're my family. They've been with

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 2>me since the beginning. And there's something about them, you

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 2>know when you find those players that you're like, they're

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 2>so genius, but you're also comfortable enough to like, yeah,

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:46.399
<v Speaker 2>you're connected, they understand you. It's instinct like, and you're

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.800
<v Speaker 2>comfortable enough to fail around them. Does that make sense?

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Like I always tell people I don't play. I wish

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I did. I want to learn. I'm working on it, actually,

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>but I don't play, you know what I mean? So

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 2>everything is guesswork for me? You know what you want

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>to hear I do, so it's all my you know

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And they're really like tapped into that.

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay. And then we know, like

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 2>in the business, like we work in the music industry,

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and the people who are treated probably the worst are

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 2>usually musicians, you know what I'm saying. So I was like,

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 2>and dancers, absolutely, and so I'm like, well, I'm tired

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 2>of kind of fighting for them, so I just want

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to bring them in the studio, make them producers, you

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, because they all have great years,

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 2>they're really visionary. So I was like, that's what I'm

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna do. I'm gonna just build this next record, and

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 2>it's just gonna be us in the studio producing, doing

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 2>what we do on the road, you know what I'm saying,

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 2>and like, and so it definitely took a lot more

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 2>time than I had anticipated, but it was worth it,

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you're saying, this is going to be your second

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the second. Start counting the years, Yeah.

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:47.720
<v Speaker 2>It's been seven it's been since I released my last record.

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 5>It's been nine years.

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we did we did do three movies in between,

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 2>so it wasn'ttive.

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 5>No, well you know what's so funny? So funny? No, no,

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 5>I want no no.

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 2>But when she do, you know, when she don't pull

0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 2>up on me, we will be right back here talking

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 5>But no, she's so.

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's funny because in the beginning of my career

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 2>they asked me. They were like, you know, they ask

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 2>you crazy questions. Who do you want to model your

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 2>career after. I'm like, y'all, come on, bro, like just

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, like it feels like a weird question to answer.

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I was just arrogant at the time, but I

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't like that, you know what I mean, Like,

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 2>let's just I can tell you artists I like.

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 5>But they were like, we really need to know, we

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 5>really need to talk. It's okay.

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, and one of the people I

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 2>named was Shade, and they were like, well, she only

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 2>releases some records like every seven years, every nine years,

0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 2>every whatever. And at the time I was like, no, no,

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 2>we're going to release more records. I just you know,

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I like the vibe.

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 5>I like, what no. Nine years later exactly, So it

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 5>just happened that way.

0:50:47.200 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that. Of course, I know you take your time

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 1>making music, but also is that kind of a testament

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of the success of that first record, Like you said,

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:59.879
<v Speaker 1>that record has not come to a close. And from

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a business standpoint, you've you you as a writer and

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 1>a producer. If you know that language, you continue to

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>do very well. So it's not like you have to rush. Yeah, thing,

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>is that part of it?

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I think that. I definitely think that's a

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 2>part of it. Like I said, the cycle was really long,

0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and it does all right. Yeah, there's a little bit

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 2>of like not feeling like I have to rush, like

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I want to take my time to and I'm like

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>that I really I am a perfectionist, which is terrible sometimes,

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, because you can really self

0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 2>sabotage that you really can be in your own way,

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and that is a balance that I'm trying to learn.

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 5>Like be precious but not too precious, you know what

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying.

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Because so it does afford you time, not as much

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 2>time as I've taken, but but it does afford you

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to Also, I just have ADHD I get distracted.

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.040
<v Speaker 5>Everything's interesting, you know what I'm saying.

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Everything I keep staying at that curtent. I'm like, why

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 2>is that one different from the rest of them?

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Well, we're still working on

0:51:58.440 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that right over.

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 5>I was like, you know it turn over, but I

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 5>like it. I like the variation, you know. No, so

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 5>there was like taking at the.

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Track at all.

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I want to kidding right, no, but yeah,

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 2>So it definitely does afford you time, but also the

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.399
<v Speaker 2>time in between the record because I'm so hands on,

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 2>you know which, like I said, I'm really learning too

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 2>in my life. I'm like, all right, cool, this is great,

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 2>hold on to this. This is a detriment, like grow

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 2>from it, move on, you know what I mean. But

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm also like it was also the movies, Like, so

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:41.800
<v Speaker 2>we I started the record, we started producing the record

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and writing in twenty seventeen, and then I got the call.

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 5>I got the call.

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 2>At the end of twenty seventeen about like, hey, we

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>want you to do Billie Holiday.

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:57.640
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, the hell are y'all talking about?

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 1>You just got the call?

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? They had, Like no, I hadn't at this point yet.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 5>I did.

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I ended up auditioning for it, but they just got

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 2>a call to meet with Lee, you know, because his

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 2>team and everybody was like, she's the perfect person for it,

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:11.399
<v Speaker 2>which makes me laugh so much to this day because

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 2>my response was like, what are you talking about?

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 5>I just love Billie Holiday. I'm not an actress, you

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean?

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 6>Like they know about that, that that call you went

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 6>on earlier, that that model.

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 5>Saw my stuff on John Robert Powers on the pictures

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 5>that I right, I pay some for the pictures. I

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:32.920
<v Speaker 5>was like, I'm gonna go another way.

0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so so I think that it took a

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 2>long time because we ended up doing that movie and

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 2>then we've shot i think two other movies on the

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in between, so that definitely took a lot of time.

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 5>COVID hit, you know what I mean.

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just like the timing of everything was crazy, and

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.080
<v Speaker 2>you're right, like Rise Up still does its things, so

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's definitely I'm looking at my team now.

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:57.479
<v Speaker 5>There's definitely more pressure. Now, my god, look can.

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you? I mean, I mean we just can't glance

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>over you know, over Billy. It's hard to glance over

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 1>that when you were nominated for an Oscar. You want

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to that golden globe that you you won that yeah,

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you won that Grammy Grammy. Yeah, uh, a celebration. Celebration

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of course you were, as you say, because I'm not

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:34.480
<v Speaker 1>an actor. As you just say, said that that is so.

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:36.240
<v Speaker 5>Wrong.

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not even close to not You're not you. I

0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:45.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know what you were thinking at the time, but

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>when you got in front of that camera, Jesus.

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:50.399
<v Speaker 5>Christ, thank you so much.

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Well at the time, I was not though. If they

0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.399
<v Speaker 2>would have shot the movie at that time, you would

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:54.799
<v Speaker 2>have been like.

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Jesus, so, how long did you so you went to prep?

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I did, Yeah, definitely, so so I once I actually

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 2>agreed to do it because Lee and I were both skeptical.

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, his team's telling him you got to meet

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 2>with her. He's like, why would I meet with her?

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 2>She's not an actress. My team's like, I mean, I'm like,

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not an actress. Why But I was like, you

0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:13.879
<v Speaker 2>know what, the long way around, not skipping steps to say,

0:55:13.920 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Lee Daniels is a good person to know.

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I should probably just meet him, you know what I mean, Like,

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 2>definitely not going to do this movie, but why not?

0:55:20.040 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean?

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:22.720
<v Speaker 2>If I want to do music or play some music

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, something like that let's just let me just

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:26.319
<v Speaker 2>chop it up with him real quick and just see,

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what he's talking about. So we met and

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.400
<v Speaker 2>it was just like, I'm such a huge fan of

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 2>Billy Holliday, So I like that she's really probably one

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of my foremost inspirations and she is actually I'm just like.

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 5>But so I really really love her.

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 2>So meeting with him and his passion he was he

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 2>was a fan of ladies sings the blues, that was

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 2>his thing. And so once he discovered more about Billie

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Holliday and her fight with strange fruit, like most people's

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:54.640
<v Speaker 2>idea of her is that she was a godmother of

0:55:54.800 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 2>jazz music, right, you know what I mean. She was

0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 2>probably the most famous jazz singer you know at the time,

0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and and she was a tragic drug addict, which is

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:04.719
<v Speaker 2>not the case, you know what I mean. Those things

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 2>were true in her life, you know, but she was

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.760
<v Speaker 2>hunted and so like I knew that as a study

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 2>of her because I became familiar with her when I

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 2>was like eleven years old, and I just was a

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 2>huge fan of her. Like I said, the way she's sang,

0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was trying to play with my voice

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 2>more because I love her identity, and so I really

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 2>love I sat with him and he was really so

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 2>enamored and so passionate.

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 5>About this story.

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 2>He was like, people need to know this about her,

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 2>And so he breaks down what he's gonna do and

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:34.640
<v Speaker 2>how he's gonna like, you know, just he's trying to

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 2>vindicate really her legacy. He was like, I'm making this

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.879
<v Speaker 2>for black women, Like I'm you know, I want people

0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 2>to know she's a fier. I'm so moved by her

0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 2>story and by this song strench Fruit. He wasn't even

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 2>really familiar.

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 5>With the song and so.

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 4>And so I was.

0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 5>I really loved that. I was like, I really love

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 5>how passionate he is.

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 2>But I'm excited for him and whoever he gets to

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 2>do the movie.

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:58.160
<v Speaker 5>But I still yeah, because I was like, I love her.

0:56:58.160 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So I told people, I said, my biggest fear was

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 2>like people would be like, oh, I love Billie Holliday,

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you remember the amazing you know, Diana

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Ross and Ladies Sings the Blues. Oh you remember the

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:10.320
<v Speaker 2>amazing Audrey McDonald on Broadway. Oh you remember when Andrew

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>did it?

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean? Like, I didn't want to

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 5>be that.

0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, like everybody, yo, bro.

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah exactly, like wow, you are Prince Petty.

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>That is our friend.

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 2>So so yeah, so I was like I can't.

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 5>So yeah. So I met with him and he introduced me.

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 5>He was like, you know what, he didn't.

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>What I love about Lee is he didn't just kind

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 2>of throw me to the wolves and be like whatever,

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>let's see. So before we even did the audition, he

0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:47.480
<v Speaker 2>got me with Tasha Smith Smith, who was my acting.

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Coach, who is.

0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 2>An amazing director, actress coach. Like she's just all the

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 2>things and a sister, you know. So he linked me

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 2>with her and to prepare me for the audition. So

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I just thought that was really Like That's why I

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>tell people. I'm like, you know, I'm grateful, and I'm

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 2>grateful that people love the performance, but it would not

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 2>have been that performance without eight I think there are

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 2>very very few, and when I say a handful, I

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 2>mean maybe like three fingers directors in Hollywood that can

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 2>pull performances out of actors the way Lee does, you

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, There's just like very very few

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 2>people of Scorsese's like that. Lee is like that, Like,

0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 2>so it was a combination of like her coaching, her

0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 2>believing in me even more than I did in the beginning,

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 2>and him believing in me and his direction, you know.

0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 2>So he got me with her. And then he said

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 2>he saw a little tape of He always when he

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 2>tells the story, he says he saw a tape. She

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 2>sent him a clip of me, just like going through

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>the scenes, he said. And in that moment I knew.

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like, you weren't acting, you were just being you

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? He was like, that was the

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 2>moment I knew you were billying so so, and then

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>they did this thing where like I was preparing for

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 2>the role like a lot before before because I got

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 2>it at the top of twenty eighteen and start filming

0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 2>until the very end of.

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 5>Or did I get it twenty seventeen. I can't remember.

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 2>We didn't start filming until the end of twenty nineteen.

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 2>So I was kind of in her headspace changing for

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:17.760
<v Speaker 2>a long time. I started smoking cigarettes, I started drinking alcohol,

0:59:17.840 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 2>started cussing for which I didn't do.

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:23.480
<v Speaker 5>It still hasn't gone away, but and you just went

0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 5>you just yeah.

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, what she told She trained me from a

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 2>different thing, she said, But what you did, sis is

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.479
<v Speaker 2>you did what I trained you. But she also trained

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 2>me to just do what you need to do to

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:35.440
<v Speaker 2>get it, you know what I mean. And so she

0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 2>trained me in this particular way and then she said,

0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you also incorporated some method and so it was just

0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.959
<v Speaker 2>like and then they we didn't get in and start

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 2>coaching heavily until that was Lee's call. Lee was like,

0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to get with her until two

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 2>weeks right before we go to film, and then intensively

0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:55.040
<v Speaker 2>work with her because he really and it worked because

0:59:55.040 --> 0:59:57.160
<v Speaker 2>he had this idea that he was like, I want

0:59:57.280 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the anxiety and because Billy would have that in her

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 2>life during this.

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 5>Period of her life.

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I want the anxiety and the nerves, and I want

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 2>her to be super present and I want all that

1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:08.040
<v Speaker 2>to work for her. And so it was a combination

1:00:08.120 --> 1:00:11.040
<v Speaker 2>of all of my preparation those intense.

1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Two weeks so smart.

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:14.800
<v Speaker 5>I was super grateful just it all came together, you

1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:15.240
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean.

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:17.280
<v Speaker 1>You are absolutely amazing.

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I appreciate it taking movie special that afforded

1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 5>me some more time.

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't like the way you left your band

1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:25.480
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of it.

1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:32.880
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, it's exactly this fake turner. Nigga cocaine is

1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 2>a hell of a drug, Like you do some crazy things.

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, it was like, come on, Billy, No, there

1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:46.360
<v Speaker 2>were so many moments they were like working the script

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:48.920
<v Speaker 2>because she's super lovable, like when you read her biography

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.120
<v Speaker 2>and all the things. But she did crazy ship too,

1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:52.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So, and she would do

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 2>stuff that you would be like, wow, I really can't

1:00:54.640 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 2>stand that. But for whatever reason, people still loved her.

1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:58.240
<v Speaker 1>So they it was an artist.

1:00:58.320 --> 1:01:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she really was, and she was. She Also here's

1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the thing about Billy. She was a woman of a

1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:04.120
<v Speaker 2>different time, you know what I'm saying, Like, and you

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:07.160
<v Speaker 2>forget that like she was like her saying was like

1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be nobody's I didn't want to

1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:10.360
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

1:01:11.000 --> 1:01:11.720
<v Speaker 5>She ended up working.

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:14.520
<v Speaker 2>She started working in a she was raped at ten,

1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:17.120
<v Speaker 2>and then she started working in a brothel by the

1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:17.760
<v Speaker 2>age eleven.

1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:19.160
<v Speaker 5>I think with her mom, you know what I mean.

1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:22.960
<v Speaker 2>So, and she had women too, She ran girls like

1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:25.240
<v Speaker 2>she was a She was a hard woman and she

1:01:25.320 --> 1:01:28.200
<v Speaker 2>was from a different time and she had to survive.

1:01:28.280 --> 1:01:30.120
<v Speaker 2>And so her saying was like I didn't want to

1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:32.600
<v Speaker 2>be nobody's damn maids. So she used to like clean

1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the steps of people's houses and like wealthy white people

1:01:35.440 --> 1:01:37.840
<v Speaker 2>for like a nickel in Baltimore.

1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:38.040
<v Speaker 5>Or you know what I mean.

1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:40.400
<v Speaker 2>And so she just like she dealt with a lot

1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:42.360
<v Speaker 2>of men who were super abusive, you know what I mean.

1:01:42.560 --> 1:01:46.480
<v Speaker 2>She was stolen from oftentimes, and you know, she was

1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:49.600
<v Speaker 2>abused physically, abused sexually all the things. But she it

1:01:49.680 --> 1:01:51.840
<v Speaker 2>made her hard and it made her very like you know,

1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:55.320
<v Speaker 2>but truthfully, it also made her a fighter and made

1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:57.800
<v Speaker 2>her who she was. You know, So like people forget

1:01:57.840 --> 1:02:00.600
<v Speaker 2>like to be a black woman in the twenties and

1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:02.479
<v Speaker 2>the thirties and the forties, it's way different.

1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:03.840
<v Speaker 5>It's way you know what I mean.

1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Like, so yeah, it's interesting. So yeah, she was, she

1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 2>was out there. You should read her biography if you

1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:09.560
<v Speaker 2>haven't read, it's funny as well.

1:02:09.880 --> 1:02:13.880
<v Speaker 1>You just did amazing. It's just tough to do. It's

1:02:13.920 --> 1:02:16.360
<v Speaker 1>just it's just because, like you said, to be that

1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to be that one person out of all the people

1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>who've come before you to not nail it, Oh my god, right,

1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that that pressure is tersting.

1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:27.000
<v Speaker 5>That was terrible.

1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:29.400
<v Speaker 1>But for leaders say, let's use that.

1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:31.720
<v Speaker 5>Yes, exactly. Use that anxiety.

1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:34.760
<v Speaker 6>Use that anxiety, and that's why a part of it

1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:36.160
<v Speaker 6>why she was using drugs.

1:02:35.960 --> 1:02:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well, and her people forget about that all the time.

1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like that she didn't just be like, oh, let

1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:42.480
<v Speaker 2>me pick it up. And a lot of these drugs

1:02:42.720 --> 1:02:44.520
<v Speaker 2>were planted on musicians, you know what I mean, This

1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:46.760
<v Speaker 2>was put like that's like people, the drug war was

1:02:46.760 --> 1:02:48.960
<v Speaker 2>not in the eighties. That started in like the thirties

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<v Speaker 2>and the forties, you know what I mean with jazz musicians,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly black jazz musicians.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so, and it's still and it's still.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing is it's so you know, once again, we

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<v Speaker 6>always we try to have moments as many moments on

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<v Speaker 6>this podcast as possible to be informative.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, for me.

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<v Speaker 6>I would just you know, to any young artist that's

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<v Speaker 6>out there, understand when they're giving you these things is

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<v Speaker 6>to control you, you know what I mean, because you're

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<v Speaker 6>you're not on your dean at this point, you're not

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<v Speaker 6>standing on your platform. They're knocking you off of it

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<v Speaker 6>by telling you, oh, it's just gonna take the edge

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<v Speaker 6>off or it's gone. Now you're on lean. Now you're

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<v Speaker 6>smoking way too much weed. Now you're doing coke. Now

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<v Speaker 6>you're doing whatever the.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing is, Like, you look cooler. It's cool as an

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<v Speaker 2>artist for you to do this thing. And that's the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all this stuff. Like I love that you

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<v Speaker 2>bring it up too, because I tell like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, the drug world to me, when I

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<v Speaker 2>go we talk, we can go back like chattel slavery right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, segregation right, Jim Crow, reconstruction, you know, lynching

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<v Speaker 2>and America. The thing I believe as a community that

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<v Speaker 2>took us out the most is drugs because it took

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<v Speaker 2>our soul and our drive and our motivation. We went

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<v Speaker 2>through chattle slavery, and we still became land on owners

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<v Speaker 2>and community owners. Like when people go, oh, black people,

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<v Speaker 2>we need invest in charice businesses, we have. We have

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<v Speaker 2>done that over and over and over again. Every time

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<v Speaker 2>you walk through Central Park, that was a thriving black community.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time you go to these major lakes and enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>the water, those were wealthy, thriving black communities, right. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the drugs, I feel like, is the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I look back on that I'm like that that's a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the institution and that's what took the soul

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<v Speaker 2>and the drive, you know what I'm saying, like not

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<v Speaker 2>that we are still going to thrive and we still

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<v Speaker 2>get it back, but I agree with you. I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the thing that you that's to control. You

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely took the men absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Which was absolutely that's the foundation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, what we were are.

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<v Speaker 1>The strong men in our community. It's the fathers, the grandfathers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and all that being passed down,

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<v Speaker 1>it started missing generations because yeah, they were either strung

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<v Speaker 1>out or sit in jail.

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<v Speaker 5>Right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah, so you did amazing. You got

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<v Speaker 1>two more movie. You did two more movies which helped

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<v Speaker 1>you pass you know, the nine years. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>I started buying property.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like just small, like small things. We were

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<v Speaker 2>filming the Lee and I did a movie called The Deliverance.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like and this was like Leah is so amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I honestly he has really just loved and supported

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<v Speaker 2>me and put me in great positions. So like this cast,

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<v Speaker 2>like to be able to lead a cast like you

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<v Speaker 2>know of Oscar winners and nominated actors and actresses. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like my castmates were Glenn Close, Monique Andrew Ellis, Caleb McLoughlin,

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<v Speaker 2>Demi Singleton, Uh, Anthony Jenkins. Like it was just it

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<v Speaker 2>was such an incredible cast of of of actors. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when I was in Pittsburgh, I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>looking around at the market and I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like it was like, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of new bills, there was a lot the disparity

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<v Speaker 2>between housing prices was like pretty drastic because they're building

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<v Speaker 2>so much. It was like a lot going on. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't know, let me just like

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<v Speaker 2>dip in and just see, you know what I mean. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's cool to me. Listen, when you

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<v Speaker 2>think you're never going to be able to afford to

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<v Speaker 2>buy a car and you are able to buy a property,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's pretty it's pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me two of those. It is a long way

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<v Speaker 1>from the seven eleven, long way from eleven, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the first No, I'm gonna just hold them until to

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<v Speaker 1>the time, you know, Cassandra, Yes the new album. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and Gentlemen, please go get that. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, also, just on a on a

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<v Speaker 1>serious note, before I get to this next segment. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just think you're needed. I think your talent,

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<v Speaker 1>your gift, your energy, like that's something and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great time for you because because because of how things

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<v Speaker 1>have turned and how they're now needing what we do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, that's real.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's refreshing that ship this whole time.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I didn't know she wanted the one.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it just saying south like get no, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you you need. I think I think you're just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're You're a dope example of what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think young girls should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see and aspire to.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. Wow, I really appreciate that. Thank you, Thank

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<v Speaker 5>you that really does.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that is a thing. Thank you to a

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<v Speaker 1>specially talented moment in our god where I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into your mind. You've been inspired by so many,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of the greats. You've been able to portray

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<v Speaker 1>one of the crates. But we want to know right

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<v Speaker 1>now as we vibe you'r we want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Top five, Yeah, your top five, top five, Your top

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<v Speaker 3>five are the easing.

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<v Speaker 6>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to know that we want to say nothing

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<v Speaker 1>years your h.

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<v Speaker 5>That was definitely one of my top five R and

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<v Speaker 5>B performances. I love that. Can I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Andre d Yes, I was want to say go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody told me they were like, it sounds more expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>When I go into my fortnight and Day, your top

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<v Speaker 1>five R and B singers, Top five.

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<v Speaker 5>Armhi, this is so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that question, I was like, so are we not?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we doing the all encompassing? Are we not including jazz?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to say, Okay, there's two worlds I

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<v Speaker 2>live in, so I would have to say, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do two top fives.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're like, okay, So we're gonna start with Whitney

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. We're going to go to ooh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>so hard, bro Okay, Whitney Aretha mm hmm. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>also say so hard okay. We're gonna say Michael that's

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<v Speaker 2>too and Shady and Anita Baker. Yeah yeah, but okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so on the flip side, right, you know what I'm saying, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a little the jazzier side. We're gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>Billie Holliday, absolutely, yes, she's definitely. We're also going to

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<v Speaker 2>say Ella Fitzgerald. For me, it's also Erica, Jill Scott,

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<v Speaker 2>and Lauren Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you see what I'm saying. I'm like, I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of had to do like who do I leave out?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Mad Mike.

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<v Speaker 5>I love. I was actually thinking about going with like

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<v Speaker 5>should I do all women do all that? Because that's

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, bro, how do I leave out? You know

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying? Luther and Stevie and Beyond. I love Beyonce. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so I was like, I have to hit him with.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are those are two really crazy?

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<v Speaker 5>Top five and jazzmine She's still absolutely I'm gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Your top five R and B songs.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, top five.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Okay, top five R and B songs, hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just mix them all together. This is not this

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<v Speaker 2>is missing so many songs, but okay, so I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>to be quick, I'll say God Bless the Child. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this song, which is more of a jazz but

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<v Speaker 2>uh human nature Michael Jackson also, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus songs.

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<v Speaker 5>This is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Erica's bag Lady too. I love bag Lady

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<v Speaker 2>by Erica. That's one of my favorite. There's so many though,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so hard to say. So I'm just gonna you

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<v Speaker 2>just already know she's one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 5>What I say so far mm hmmmmmm mm hmmm. And

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<v Speaker 5>angel Anita Baker m h.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>And then right now I'm just trying to I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you can pick any shady song, Like right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to like pick which you will.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm like, how do I leave exactly? Like, oh gosh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going with that? There's I love.

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<v Speaker 2>I love everything she's done. I love everything she's done.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm just gonna have to just say all

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<v Speaker 2>I can't pick.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>M m my god, uh huh oh, you can't just

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<v Speaker 5>be like vibe for day, Like.

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<v Speaker 6>It's bigger than vibe. Like that word is that word

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<v Speaker 6>is an understate. You learn at that theater in New

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<v Speaker 6>War figured this.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a home gro on a school named Jennison Class.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, where are you going? Yeah, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>go down southeast.

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<v Speaker 6>Some of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't saying no nick hey, I ain't saying no names.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

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<v Speaker 3>You was.

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<v Speaker 1>What you did? Don't say she ain't saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Is the greatest part, right, Okay, So yeah, we had

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<v Speaker 6>a very very very important part of the show segment.

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<v Speaker 6>That's card I ain't saying no names. Okay, tell us

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<v Speaker 6>a story funny and fucked up? Are funny and fucked up?

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<v Speaker 6>The only rule to the game is you can't say

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<v Speaker 6>no name.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, You've been on tours and movie sets, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of cool ship so much, so much cool

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<v Speaker 1>in champagne much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, you have all these stories and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get in like on in the lights and in

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<v Speaker 2>the camera, and my god, well yesterday I went to.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's see. I do have a funny story.

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<v Speaker 2>But bro, I don't know if I can even tell

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<v Speaker 2>the story without y'all knowing exactly who it is. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you can say the name, I let me see.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's the story you want?

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<v Speaker 5>Now, that's the what's the one? Which were you thinking of?

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<v Speaker 5>Which one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So all right, y'all gonna know. But whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 5>what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just remember, like you know, you meet people

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes and you know, you meet some people that you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can tell from their artist persona, you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell from everything You're like, that is a huge personality,

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<v Speaker 2>super duper ego probably you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>All the things that and then sometimes you meet people

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<v Speaker 2>that you would think that and they're really sweet, they're cool,

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think.

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<v Speaker 5>There was one artist entertainer Mogel.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one person. No, no, there was one person.

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<v Speaker 2>One time we were doing Essence best were you? There

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<v Speaker 2>was this the one which Essence was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so no.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember there was one time we were in

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<v Speaker 2>our dressing room and it was myself and a bunch

1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:06.160
<v Speaker 2>of other artists, you know what I'm saying, that we're there.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember we were just kind of everybody was

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<v Speaker 2>in their dressing room. It was like a common room.

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<v Speaker 2>And then everybody was in their respective dressing rooms, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And this artist like kind of came in. They sent

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<v Speaker 2>their team and or their security team in, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, And they and they were like, this

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<v Speaker 2>honestly is more funny than anything. But uh so they

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<v Speaker 2>sent their security team and there was a common room.

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<v Speaker 2>Each person had their dressing room. This person had their

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<v Speaker 2>dressing room too, and then we had a common room

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<v Speaker 2>and they were nice. Dressing rooms was nice. So everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was in their dressing room and they send their team

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<v Speaker 2>in and to go like kick everybody out of their

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<v Speaker 2>respective dressing room. So it was like common area can't

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<v Speaker 2>be used. And it was like and anybody and these

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<v Speaker 2>are other artists, like people that you know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, And so they go in and they're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, all right, this person wants to come in,

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<v Speaker 2>so everybody has to get out.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody has to you know what I mean, whatever all

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<v Speaker 5>the stuff, so you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw them kicking everybody out of the common room

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<v Speaker 2>and we were like, all right, cool, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>came in and started kicking everybody out their individual rooms,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I was like, my god, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, so most people, including my team,

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<v Speaker 2>were like, we're not gonna leave unless we feel like

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<v Speaker 2>somebody official, you know what I mean, it's telling us this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, and so everybody kind of stayed in

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<v Speaker 2>their dressing room. And then so the person finally came

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<v Speaker 2>into the common area, and no one had left their

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<v Speaker 2>dressing rooms, and they were like, all right, everybody, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna pray.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, oh my god, look at me.

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<v Speaker 5>I had underestimated this person. They want to pray, my

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<v Speaker 5>bad Jesus, let's go ahead and do it. I judged

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<v Speaker 5>them that was totally wrong. Blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>So we all come out of our common dressing rooms

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<v Speaker 2>and we all get in this massive circle and we

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<v Speaker 2>start praying. Well, we all bowed our heads to start praying,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's like down my head, closed my eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>I did the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Were you still kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looking but you're not.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, not at this point. We're not there yet

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<v Speaker 5>at that part of the story. So I had my

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<v Speaker 5>heads bowed, and then all of a sudden, I hear

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<v Speaker 5>I woke up this morning and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was me and I was like, I was so I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, and it was a whole thing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, by the time we were dead, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>to myself, I was like.

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<v Speaker 5>Did they make me pray to them?

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<v Speaker 3>Look at that?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I damn, I'm gonna go have to repent and be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, God, my bad.

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't nobody else I know that God. I didn't know. God,

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know he was gonna do that, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean. So I had to go and be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>not me at the end of the prayer talking about

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<v Speaker 5>and Jesus name. Okay, all right, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was a really interesting story.

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<v Speaker 2>That was probably my first experience with like something that

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<v Speaker 2>was that random and that bizarre, but still funny and entertaining.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I don't know, I like a good charismatic versus

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<v Speaker 5>to me. Yeah, I was like I was, I was tricked.

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<v Speaker 5>I ain't realizing until we said Amen.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like to who, Lord, bless these people holding

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<v Speaker 1>my hand?

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, you did it wrong. It's me blessed,

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<v Speaker 5>these peopeople holding Lord, just me bless me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a blessed these people holding my hands. Wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>know the way truth and the light. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>My whole team was cracking up, kind of like right

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<v Speaker 5>there you go. Yeah, it was like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch me work, watch me name name, watch me with

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<v Speaker 1>with two whips, whip whip, watch me name.

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<v Speaker 5>That's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh wow, I'm just going down my

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<v Speaker 1>mental rollerdecks of you know, a couple of people that

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<v Speaker 1>I know are capable of that anyway. Andrew Day, you

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<v Speaker 1>are just you're You're really really awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. I love this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you just to like, you know, just all you

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<v Speaker 1>know inside and out, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, we need we need more

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And I and I and I and I pray.

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<v Speaker 5>Yea to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I pray that you you you are, you are blessed

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<v Speaker 1>to go in as many spaces as possible to be

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<v Speaker 1>as infectious as you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that your thing is just that it just

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<v Speaker 1>becomes contagious and everybody can be more like you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. And I pray the same for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you've already done it. You're already doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's still still more work to do.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the aesthetic specific there. This is.

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