1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: We are. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Take BLOCHI. We are the authority on all things R 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: and D ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentin 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: and this is the rmy Money podcast. This sorry on 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: no Things R N B Oh. Yeah? Is it in 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: your soul? 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? You feel it? Can you can you feel it? 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 4: Can you feel it? 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: Is you? 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Multi talented man? How can you write? Can you sing it? 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Can you act it? Is it jazzy? Is it? 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: Can we tap. 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Into that to the renaissance? Yeah? Doesn't make you rise? 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: Doesn't make you. 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 5: Thank you? 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: Man? 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: You're like you're like so cool. Like your energy is 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: like it's like the best energy in terms of how 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: you make people feel welcome, how you make people feel 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: like you care, how you make like it's like certain 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: people have that, you know what I mean, where it's 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: like this nurturing kind of instinctive like you're not it's 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: just you, you know what I mean? Like like even 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: your in your essence when you walk by and your smells. 27 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 4: I dont want to hang out of her house. 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: It does smell good. 29 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that essence where I just kind 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: of want to, you know, hang out of her house, 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Like it's some beads at your house. Yeah, there's a 32 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: felt you know, there's a jaguar somewhere. 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: There's definitely the palasanto and the candles. 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: And. 35 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: It's just for me, like that's how I was raised, 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And those things like kind 37 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: of just defined my childhood from it being my grandmother, 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: my great grandmother, my mother, my cousin, my uncle, my 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: great all in all in one house. I felt that 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: I felt that energy and that love and that spirituality, 41 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: and you just you carry that with you everywhere. 42 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 5: Thank you. That's listen, no. 43 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Matter what you got on jeans, right now, you got this. 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: It's the whole. 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: I also have a broken ail. 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: I would like to start this whole thing by just 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: admitting it so I don't have to hide my hands. 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 5: I was thinking about doing the whole. 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Podcast because because the thing is that you know what 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: I mean, or just to hit you with what I mean. No, 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: I did, bro, that's so random to say that. I 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: was literally with rants the other day and I'm terrible, 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm trash. 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: He's like, you play. 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I was a ballerina, but you 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: know what I mean, drop a little three you know 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: what I mean. 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: Drop a little ballerina that would drop a little tree. 59 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: Listen the terminology lets you further know that's not really 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: her thing. Yeah, I drop a little thing. 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: Shot exactly down, mom. 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: So no, no playing ball. That just they betrayed me today. 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: So this is where we're at. 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: So you said you you you're a ballerina. 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 5: I was. Yeah, I danced for like twenty two years. 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 6: I was. I danced for twenty two years. 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: That's how talented people thought. I didn't. That's how talented 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: people say. It's a miss stint in my life for 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: a year. I doubt I don't. I don't understand that 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: it is. 71 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 5: A Fortnite the. 72 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: London, England. They know who I am. Okay, fortnit it back? 73 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: Do you use it? 74 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: Do you you know? I have it for a while. 75 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: But I actually did decide on this album cycle I 76 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: do want to incorporate dance more. I miss it, you 77 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it's like exercise regular for me. 78 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: I enjoy it, but dancing is what it's still a 79 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: passion of mine. 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 4: I would love Yeah, I am definitely to. 81 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: See you on stage doing that, Like I would love 82 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: to see a performance with that incorporated. Like always like 83 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: like like my daughter she modern, yeah, all of that, 84 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: all of that from Harlem School of the Arts, professional 85 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: for more or like all of that, she has all 86 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: of that. I'm like, we have to use. 87 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 5: All of it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, like. 88 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: Singing Pink on stage doing all of their so Lacey, 89 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: it's crazy. 90 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: So it's interesting too, because I think we're kind of taught, 91 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: especially in music. It's like you have to do it 92 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: a certain way. But I also feel like now it's 93 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: like the wild West, you know what I mean. I 94 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: look at even this album and like all the art 95 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: and the stuff surrounding it, the activations, I look at 96 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: it as like installations, right, our installations. So I'm like, yeah, 97 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: of course you can incorporate dance, and it doesn't just 98 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: have to look like this and be a routine with 99 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, certain costumes. It can be more interpreted, it 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: can like play with the music a little more. 101 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: So I agree. 102 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: I think using everything is actually a lot more engaging 103 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: and interesting for the I like stuff like that, So 104 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: I want to like give that to people. 105 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm gonna need you to do. 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 5: Okay, chop you go ahead, because absolutely not Okay. 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: I was going to say no to you. Don't have 108 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: to say that. 109 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: You know. 110 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 5: The energy and your big time. 111 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: I would love I would love for you to dance 112 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: in the piece. 113 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: Yes for me, Yes, I definitely plan on doing that. Yeah, 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: so you're going yes, that's a yes for sure? 115 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah for for me? For me? 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: Oh really, okay, I would do that. Yeah, that would 117 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I think that would be crazy. I have just the thing. Okay, 119 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: it's so opposite, but it would be so dope. 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: Oh, I love that. 121 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: I can see you visualizing it to be money. 122 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 5: So I already knows what happened, gone, and. 123 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: I got your permission already. He has all the dance 124 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: sh it in his head. I can't my body. 125 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you can bring your elbows together. 126 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: Even I didn't know either, just now, can you? 127 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: I could definitely bring my albols together. I'm not buffing on. Yeah, 128 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: pretty pretty tested. 129 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 6: Okay, it's very easy. 130 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know I couldn't do it. Can you do it? 131 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: That's crazy? 132 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: These niggas. 133 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 5: You feel bad? 134 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: Right, there's no drug testing, R and B music. 135 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: Okay, no rules. 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: From trying to stay young. Let's do this. Let's go 137 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: back to the beginning. I start thinking, let's go the 138 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: beginning San Diego Southeast Southeast. That's so like, listen, listen, listen, 139 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: it ain't sweet. I've been Nick Cannon is down, Mitchie 140 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Slick is the home I'm going on. Yeah, I'm surprised 141 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: you can come in green today. 142 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 5: No, look, there are a lot of colors out there though. 143 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: For sure. That's definitely yes. 144 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: So when when did you discover or when did someone 145 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: discover just kind of identify that, you know, you had 146 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: something something different. 147 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: I mean I went I think actually when I was 148 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: fairly young. I was like about six years old. I 149 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: think I started dancing when I was like five, so 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: that was first. But my parents discovering that I could sing, 151 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: I was like six years old. I was just singing Whitney. 152 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: I think I was singing a Whitney song and that 153 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: just they told me. They just remember me singing the 154 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: song and being like, oh, she kind of sound like 155 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like she's hitting the notes, 156 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: she's doing you know what I mean. But my father 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: actually has a really nice voice, and so does my mother, 158 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 2: but my mom's too shy, and you know what I mean. 159 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 5: My dad, he was in the service you know what 160 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: I mean. 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: So that was like the first time, and then I 162 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: went to a performing arts school starting in the sixth grade. 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: It was like six to two senior year actually, same school. Yeah, 164 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: same school the whole time. It was actually really cool 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: just because like you know, you use the word nurture, 166 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: and they did. They really nurtured just the creative arts. 167 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: It was a performing arts school, so we did shows, 168 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: we did plays, you know, I learned I did jazz, 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: vocal production, and classical and danced there as well too. 170 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: So it was at a fairly fairly young age six 171 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: and then really kind of dove into things when I 172 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: was like around ten eleven. 173 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 6: So did you decide to go or did your parents 174 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 6: let you decide to go to performing arts school or 175 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 6: was that something that was sought after? 176 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: I think it was always So I went to it's 177 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: what's called a feeder school. I went to a school 178 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: called Valencia Park. Shoutout a VP, but I went to 179 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: a feeder school. It was like a few feater schools 180 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: in San Diego, Zamorano, Oak Park. Valencia Park was one 181 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: of them. Oh fair well, and so it was just 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: kind of always a known thing. I always loved dancing. 183 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: I always loved performing and I heard I knew about SEPA, 184 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: My parents knew about SEPA School for Creative and Performing Arts, 185 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: and so it was kind of natural. I went to 186 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: Valencia Park and it was a feeder school for that 187 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: performing arts school. I did dance at VP as well too, 188 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: and so it's always. 189 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 5: Been a thing. 190 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't really pinpoint a moment of 191 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: like this is I'm gonna do this, you know what 192 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: I mean? It just has always been always. My parents 193 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: have always loved music, They've always loved the arts. So 194 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: I just think like it was always there was never 195 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: really a plan b EXCEP. For one time, I wanted 196 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: to be a palaeontologist and then they were like you 197 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: should keep singing, and I was like all right, I know. 198 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: I just was. 199 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 5: Dinosaurs. I was just like, oh my god, this is amazing. 200 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: Do they have dinosaurs in San Diego? 201 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: They have a great they have a great zoo. 202 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 4: I was like, amazing zoo. 203 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: They But did you know your mind, like when you're young, 204 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 2: I'm idiotd my mind go on tangents. I'd be like, 205 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm a lawyer, you know what I mean. But and 206 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: I just like dinosaurs. But then they were like, well, 207 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: mainly you're just gonna have to dig through a bunch 208 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: of dirt to find these skeletons. I was like, oh, yeah, 209 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: you're right, I'm gonna just sing and I'm gonna singing dance, 210 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 211 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: That's the only other thing you've ever wanted to do well. 212 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 5: When I was that age, you know what I mean? 213 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: Now I have, like there's a lot of companies and 214 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: a lot of things that I'm doing and want to 215 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: do so Andvies became one of those things, producing movies, writing, 216 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: co directing. 217 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were in like it's like my daughter 218 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: the same way, like getting this space where it's almost 219 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: like early college where you're where you're like you're hyper 220 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: focused on that thing. Like, yeah, I was supposed to 221 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: go to a school, you know, uh performing our school, 222 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: but they didn't have a football team. 223 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: Mine didn't either. But because we didn't have a football team, 224 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: you were allowed to play for other schools in the area, 225 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: Like you could choose. So if I wanted to play for. 226 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: In high school, yea and high school, yeah. 227 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 5: That's like Lincoln Park, I could play for Lincoln. 228 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 6: It was two man niggas walking around smoking cigarettes with 229 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 6: church for me to go to school to the arts. 230 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 2: I was like, I want to say, that's completely inaccurate, but. 231 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Right, I don't know what y'all doing. 232 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: I was. 233 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: No football. 234 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: You can pick though, at least in California. I didn't know. Yeah, 235 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: in California it's like Maryland. 236 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 6: So if you go it was if you go to 237 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 6: a school of the yards, the un lets, you pick 238 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 6: what high school you want to. 239 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Play sports for everything. 240 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we'll still get the experience, okay, because you 241 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 6: don't you know, you can't be with the band niggas 242 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 6: and the hoop team. 243 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: It can't be all. Yeah. I just needed a different experience. 244 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: My high school was horrible, fire shooting. We played football 245 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: in basketball was like y'all gated No, we was gated up. 246 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: They had it was east Side High the front of 247 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: the school, no front of we had. We had chains 248 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: on the door so you can get out of one door. 249 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, you knew what that was. No, 250 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: it was different. But see I was also the church kid, 251 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying that all the people 252 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: was like, you know they love me. You know what 253 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying it was like blessings. 254 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: That the one door. 255 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Protect right protector in these church that say protect They 256 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: needed me because I was the prayer royer. So at 257 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: what point do you say it should be a profession, 258 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: because even as you're being groomed in this space, it's 259 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: still just you know, it's still just love at this point, 260 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's still just. 261 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 5: It's still it's definitely love. 262 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: But I think the school that I went to, you 263 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean, it was singing at home, singing 264 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: in church, singing in school, like and but it was 265 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: such The school was amazing, honestly, you know, you really 266 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: got familiar with putting on a stage show. 267 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 5: It was Broadway focused. That was amazing. 268 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: And I have friends, amazing friends. A good friend of my, 269 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: Shandra Prophet, made it all the way to Broadway. She's 270 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: in The Lion King, you know, and so so it 271 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: was kind of really geared toward that. And you got 272 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: to see the whole production, and you got to do 273 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: the music and the dancing and you know, learn the lines. 274 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: But the kids did also the production. They did behind 275 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 2: the scenes, you know what I mean, They were the 276 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: lighting tesests. Yeah, it was really it was really like 277 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: all encompassing. So so the school kind of geared you 278 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: toward doing that as a profession, you know. I think 279 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: for me, it was just like do I want to dance? 280 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: Do I want to do Broadway? Or do I want 281 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: to And I think around the age of sixteen, I 282 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: was really clear that I was like, now I really 283 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: want to be a recording artist, Like I want to 284 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: write my own music. I want to I like the 285 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: idea of creating and kind of forging my own path, 286 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, plus, I was like, 287 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you. I was like, how 288 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: much do you get paid not being a principal on Broadway? 289 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm good. This is R and B money, right, Yeah, No, 290 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: So it was cool. I love like it was just 291 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: the passion of creating things, making things and just you know, 292 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: I just loved, you know, the work of so many 293 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: artists and that really inspired me. And so I'm like, okay, cool, 294 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: they're writers, those people are making their music there, you 295 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean, And that's that's what I want 296 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: to do. 297 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 6: This It was about like sixteen, any things that you 298 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 6: were connected to in San Diego that kind of gave 299 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 6: you an inkling of what the business was. 300 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 5: M that's a good question. 301 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: Things that I was connected to, oh you know, but 302 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: again it was still more theater based. Like there was 303 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: a there was a theater that I would do during 304 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: the summertimes. It was called like Theatre Noir, and there 305 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: was this director and he would just put on shows. 306 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 5: He did Fame. 307 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: I did Fame there, I did uh Boogie Knights, which 308 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: is just kind of like a Medley show. I met 309 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: some managers. I went to a few studios. I actually 310 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: used to record with a few producers out there. Actually, 311 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: if you know San Diego is on Peter pan Av 312 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: If you don't Skyline, I don't know Peter. That's good, no, 313 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, so I don't know, you know, I 314 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: don't know that there were things that gave me an inkling. 315 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: I was just very I was obsessed with it, you 316 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I feel like I was 317 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: looking up stuff all the time. 318 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 6: And because I asked you that, because going to school 319 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 6: of the arts, right, and I think people feel as 320 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 6: if from putting their kids in these types of schools, 321 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 6: obviously you learn the arts, yeah, but then at some 322 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 6: point you got to learn the business. 323 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Business Yeah, the business was definitely on the ground, like 324 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: that was experience, you know what I mean. I feel 325 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: like there were things in San Diego, but there were things. 326 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: There was just some things that when you want to 327 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: be a part of this your whole life, you know. 328 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: But again, I'm looking at it from the other side, right, 329 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: things are so different now. But it was like a 330 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: record label is the best thing to have, and you've 331 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: got to get a manager and you gotta you know 332 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: what I mean. So it was like trying to find 333 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: people in San Diego, and I had like a manager 334 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: out there, but he was kind of an unofficial manager, 335 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: you know. 336 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: And so I don't know. 337 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of funny because figuring it out on the 338 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: ground kind of you have good experiences like I won't 339 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it made my skin a little bit thicker, sure, 340 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: but then you also have experiences that you're like, I 341 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: don't want my kids to go to and I don't 342 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: want you know what I'm saying. Like, so, but that 343 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: was it was just I always wanted it. So it 344 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: was like wherever I have to go, you know what 345 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: I mean, and whatever I have to do. I would 346 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: kind of try to get money together to travel up 347 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: to La as much as I could, you know, to sing, and. 348 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 5: You know, I was telling people. 349 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: I was like the thing at a certain time was 350 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: like you get into a party and then you got 351 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 2: to meet somebody famous, so you can get them you're down, 352 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that's what you would think, 353 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Or printing CDs and I 354 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: would sell them on the beach in San Diego or 355 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: like you know. 356 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 5: So it's just whatever I did the whole thing, that's why. 357 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, definitely. And I put on like shows 358 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: I did something at it's actually the Grove in Anaheim. 359 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: I remember at the time I was opening for it 360 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: was like San Diego. So I was opening for Polladanda 361 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: and Baby Bash like that whole exactly. 362 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 363 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: So, and I had to put everything together, had to 364 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: do the booking. I was kind of like my own 365 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: promo person and was hoping to meet people through that. 366 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: Put together the background singers and the show and the 367 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: track and the all of the promo materials. 368 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: And you know. 369 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: So it's like it's really when I try to recap it, 370 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: it's really like it's there's a lot of tentacles. It's 371 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: really nebulous because it was just like, cool, if this good, I'm. 372 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 5: Gonna go do that. 373 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 374 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 5: It's probably a long way around, but. 375 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: Well no, it's it's actually like you didn't skip. You 376 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: just didn't skip. No steps, no steps. Yeah, it's some 377 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: little steps. 378 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: Soon steps and then going to like you know, they 379 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: used to have the like modeling agencies and the acting agencies, 380 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: the John Robert Powers and what's the other one, what's 381 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: the Casablanca or whatever. 382 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: It's just a cattle call people. 383 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're young, you just this is this. Every 384 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: opportunity felt like the opportunity and the big shot. 385 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: Did you ever go there? 386 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 6: Yet? 387 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: I got convinced. I got convinced to go to one thing. 388 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 5: Mm hmmm. 389 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: I stayed for five minutes. I was like, I hell no, broke. 390 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: I did not close. 391 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I was just like auditioning, you know what I'm saying, 392 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: for for parts. But it's like like a couple of 393 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: auditions I walked in to. You know, of course it's 394 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: a big call, and I'm like when I see the 395 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: big call and I see all these people, I'm like, no, 396 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: I can take that. But then but then you see 397 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: an a lister walk in, You're like, what you doing? 398 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm going on for that party? Like I remember, I 399 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: can't remember who it was. They walked Oh my god, 400 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: who was it they walked in and I walked out. 401 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I cannot remember who it was. It was. It was 402 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: somebody though it was it was like why I wanted 403 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: to get an autograph. I want to take a picture, 404 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: but we're here for the same spot. So rather than 405 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: like lose my cool, I'm gonna just get on out 406 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: of here because I know, damn well, yeah. I think 407 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: the thing I went to is like he supposed to 408 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: be in the background of something, and I was eighteen. 409 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: It was like, you're going to be in the background 410 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: of some independent movie. 411 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 6: We're gonna pay you forty dollars. 412 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: I would go to these audition things are like great, 413 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: now all you have to do is pay us seven 414 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: hundred dollars for pictures. 415 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: And I was trying to. 416 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: Be like, I think I have seven dollars, Like it's 417 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: just everybody. It's like again, when you're young like that, 418 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: it's just like every opportunity seems but. 419 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 6: It also separates who really wanted and who doesn't. I 420 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 6: didn't want to be that, you know what. I mean, 421 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 6: it was just another that at that particular moment for me, 422 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 6: was just a hustle. 423 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want to sell more drugs. You know. 424 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 6: Prison wasn't where I wanted to be. So I'm like, okay, 425 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 6: I gotta stop selling dope. I'm gonna go out here 426 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 6: and think I'm gonna be an actor in the back 427 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: of somebody's movie. 428 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 5: Right, that's real. And that was the thing at the 429 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: time too, You're right. It was for modeling. Acting. 430 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: That wasn't my focus. But I thought, well that could 431 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: be a way into me. I can meet somebody and 432 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's just all all connected, 433 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? But now, oh yeah, I 434 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: wrote a song called is It Love? 435 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 5: Is it love? That makes you feel this way? She 436 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 5: love Love Love Love. Yeah, it was a song I wrote. 437 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 6: I was. 438 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: I was probably like I was, oh, you know what. 439 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 5: That was the first solo song I wrote. I think. 440 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 5: I was like, well, you were in sixteen. I was 441 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 5: about to be seventy. 442 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: When I was sixteen, I was in a group with 443 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: like like a few homegirls in high school and we 444 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: were called Intimate, Intimate, Intimate Yeah, now, yeah, so we 445 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: had our little groups. We wrote some things together, but 446 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: the main one I wrote was that that is it 447 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Love was the first one that I wrote, and I 448 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: was also in actually very very briefly, but it was 449 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: like they weren't really I think the group was kind 450 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: of disbanding at the time. 451 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 5: But I had auditioned that one of their members was 452 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 5: leaving for the group. Remember the R and B group 453 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 5: isis back in the day. 454 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they one of their members had had left, 455 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: and so they were auditioning people and then I ended 456 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: up getting the part. But we never really did anything 457 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: because I think they were kind of disbanding at this point. 458 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 5: But yeah, like I said, I was down. I was like, 459 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 5: I was do it, you know what I mean, Like 460 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 5: your first. 461 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: Sound way better than mine. Your first song sounded. 462 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: Great, that was definitely ABC. 463 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: That is not giving a b C. That is like 464 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: we should do that, now give it. 465 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: But I didn't know. I wasn't in love. I was like, 466 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 5: this feel right? Is in love? 467 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: Right? 468 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? I wasn't. 469 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 4: Exactly. 470 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 5: I was like, you know my favorite I'm gonna put 471 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: this in here. Yeah you know. 472 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, so you're going through all these progressions, of course, 473 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: not skipping any steps in anywhere to get it? When when? 474 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: When is when it? Where's your discovery? 475 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was I actually started working with this 476 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: manager that which was I will I say names it 477 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: was actually you listen. 478 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 5: It was a terrible experience, but still some good things 479 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: came from it. 480 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: And so I won't I will say that, but I 481 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: do say that because I always like to remind people 482 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: like those experiences can happen, but they don't have to 483 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: take you out, you know what I'm saying. So, so 484 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: my my big break actually really came through Stevie Wonder 485 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: that he's kind of like like I look at him 486 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: as like my godfather when it comes to the business 487 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: and singing. 488 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 5: Yes, didn't get expensed. 489 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: So you were in l A at this point though 490 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: you no. 491 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: No, no, I was still in San Diego at the time. 492 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: I was just commuting back and forth, you know, It's like, 493 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: and so I was working with this manager and he 494 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: happened upon actually Kyle Miller Morris who was his wife 495 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 2: at the time, with Stevens all the time, and they 496 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: were just in a pastry shop, he says, And I 497 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: had come up to La to sing. I was singing 498 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: in front of a couple of songs that I wrote, 499 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was kind of like 500 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: a retro soul vibe to it, and I was singing 501 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: a couple of songs I wrote at a rip mall 502 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: and Malibu. I look, we was just still there and 503 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: in front of like some shoe store, and so he 504 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: just had some clips to that. 505 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 5: So he played it. 506 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: For her while she was in there, and then she 507 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: revealed to him after she saw it. She was like, well, 508 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: I'm actually Stevie Wonder his wife. 509 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 5: I love this. I want to play it for him, 510 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: you know. 511 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: So she played it for him and he actually really 512 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: liked it, and so they orchestrated a call, which I'm 513 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: in San Diego. 514 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. 515 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: I'm in San Diego sitting my mother's entire apartment. 516 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 5: It was definitely smaller than this room. 517 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, it's about the size, 518 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: and this would have been luxury lower the roof closing 519 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: the walls. That's like my mother's spot. So I was 520 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: sleeping on her futon and it was just like a 521 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: tiny little apartment behind seven. 522 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 5: To eleven, next to a dumpster, you know. 523 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: And then I'm sitting there on the phone with Stevie 524 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: Wonder like, hey, and he's like talking about a certain 525 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: type of song he wants to write and asking me 526 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: about my music. And he was asking me like detailed 527 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: stuff like wow, you know, I think he loved that 528 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: it had like the sort of retro soul and jazzy 529 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: or feel to it, and so we would ask me 530 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: things like how come they're only two minutes long? And 531 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: I love that he clocked that because I loved some 532 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: of the records that I love from Billie Holliday and 533 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: people back in the day were sit order, you know 534 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: what I mean, And I love it was just a taste. 535 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: And then he talked about this song that he wanted 536 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: to do with me. He also asked me what my 537 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: sign was and went into that for a while. And 538 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: then my mother was like, do the dishes, and I 539 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: was like, I'm actually super busy right now, I'm on 540 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: the phone with Stevie. 541 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 5: So for me, yeah, no, I still. 542 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: So she did not believe me, and right, yeah, and 543 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: I got exactly but no. 544 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 5: So that was really so. 545 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 2: But to that point, it didn't end up working out 546 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: at the time, and what I was told was that 547 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: they didn't like you. 548 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 5: You weren't good enough. 549 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: You know. 550 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 5: The conversation wasn't good enough us? Okay, you know what 551 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: the music? 552 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was told from the person I 553 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: was working with at the time. So I didn't find 554 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 2: out until a year later when my idea was up 555 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: with that manager. They held onto my information, Kai and 556 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: Stevie and they reached out to me again and were like, hey, 557 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: we hope you're not still with this person, And they 558 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: explained to me what happened, which is that he told 559 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: them like they have to pay something like fifty thousand 560 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: just to just to meet me in the studio, you know. 561 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 5: What I mean. 562 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: So I didn't know about that. I just thought I 563 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: wasn't good enough, and it is what it is, you 564 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I say that because that's 565 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: why I say, like things like that don't have to 566 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: be the end, you know what I mean. Like, so 567 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: they actually introduced me to my producer who did my 568 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: first record, and so that's the rest of us kind 569 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: of like history from there. Yeah, so very grateful. 570 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: God, Yeah, I just that's just that's the unfortunate part 571 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: of this business. Just sometimes we just we go through 572 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: things like that with people who just have very heartless 573 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: individuals in this business, and you know, I attribute it 574 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: to them just not having any talent, not having any gifts. Yeah, 575 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: and so when it becomes a thing where you'll do 576 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: anything for money, like you that's the thing, you'll do 577 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: anything to people, Yeah, you know. 578 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 2: And I think sphere, I think it's really truthfully, at 579 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: the root of it is a fear based you know 580 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you just don't you have to 581 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: get yours by any means necessary, and you don't think 582 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: you'll ever have something or you don't you got to 583 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 2: hold on to it because you're scared if you lose it, 584 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: and all this stuff as well. I think it's definitely 585 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 2: like a fear thing, you know what I'm saying, Like, 586 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: which I think is what kind of like makes me 587 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: have empathy, you feel me Like, I go, all right, cool, 588 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: I could sit and be mad at this person and 589 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: be like but I'm like, you know what, You're just scared, 590 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And that's where you're operating from. 591 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: So I hope you God willing, you know what I'm saying, 592 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: by his grace, I hope you find a way. 593 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 5: Out of that, you know what I mean. Yeah, So I. 594 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 7: Haven't take that however you want to. 595 00:27:41,640 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: Squashing, I don't wish you well, that's a balance, I 596 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: get it. That is our balance. 597 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 5: That's why this works. I like exactly. 598 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, understand you, right that. So 599 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: they introduced your producer, who does your first single, your first. 600 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: Album, first album? So that was Adrian Gerbitts was his name. 601 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: He was a producer. He was a very unknown producer 602 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: as far as I knew here out of London, you 603 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: know what I mean. He was an English dude, and 604 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: so it was just you know, he just he loved 605 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: my voice. He was passionate about it, you know. And 606 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: and then and so we did the record together. And 607 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: then from there I was introduced. We did kind of 608 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: the label circuit and we're like, you know, doing the 609 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: kind of this meeting with the labels. 610 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 5: Everybody was doing this with no no a lot of 611 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 5: the time. 612 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, he was. He was more hands on 613 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: with this. But and then from there I was introduced 614 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 2: to Rafael Sadik, who also like produced, So it was 615 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: Adrian Gravitz and Rafael Sadek that produced my first record. 616 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was cool. It was you know, things 617 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: were happening. I was like, okay, can you know what 618 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: I mean after all this time, like. 619 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: Rafael still ain't done no record for me. 620 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: Let's okay, let's put it on wags right now. 621 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: Ray, I would have really love to do a record. 622 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: No, he's amazing. Yeah, he's really amazing. 623 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so cool too, Like he's really He let 624 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: me sit in there and mix the record too, you 625 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I had some people mixing it. 626 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: But I can be huh. I can be quite controlling 627 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 2: sometimes I'm working on me, but so I need there's 628 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: just details that I wanted to hear. So he let 629 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: me sit in there with his mixed engineers Jerry Bobby Campbell, 630 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: uh Ari, and we just kind of mixed the record 631 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: and worked together, and then he worked on songs with 632 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: music weal two. So yeah, he's amazing. He's definitely someone 633 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: I'm always gonna work with. He did music with billy 634 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: billy music with musical too. 635 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: And what was the call out from the first album? 636 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 5: What was the first track? Yeah, oh, the first thing. 637 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: Well, it was a song called rise Up Yeah. 638 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Put your Order in three Booth, which I would tell. 639 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: You was not on the album originally, by the way, 640 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: that was a very that was a last minute addition 641 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: to the record. 642 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote that the album was done already. 643 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 5: It was done, completely done. 644 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, and I had been doing the whole 645 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: I was actually really I think tired, Like you said, 646 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: no skip steps, you know what I mean. So by 647 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: this point I was just like, oh my, I'm with 648 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: the label now and I'm going to these sessions and 649 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: writing all these songs, but the album is done and 650 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm not loving what we're coming up with and all 651 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: the things. 652 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 5: So I forgot. 653 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: I had done a session with this lady named Jendall 654 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: Sevio and we did Rise Up. And so when I 655 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: was in the meeting with Warner, they were like, hey, 656 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: you know, we love it, blah blah blah, but we 657 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: really want to play you a song. And I was like, 658 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 2: they were like, you wrote it. I was like, well, 659 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: let me hear it. Put it on the love put 660 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: it on it. I mean, let me if you said 661 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: I wrote I was right because I was like at 662 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 2: this point, I was like side eye and everybody. So 663 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: and they played it and I was like, oh, it 664 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: like kind of just quieted the room for a second. 665 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, no, it was just very very apparent. 666 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: I was like, this absolutely has to be on the album, 667 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: absolutely has to be the first single. They tried to 668 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: go in and do do the drums remix and get 669 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: the big DJs, the and all the stuff to put 670 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: the stuff on there, you know, but I was just 671 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: the whole time was just kind of like, ya, I 672 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: think the song is like what it is, you know 673 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, I think the song is like 674 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: this is who I am, and so it just nothing 675 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: ever worked, nothing ever sat properly. So it just what 676 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: it what exactly what we made it to be is 677 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: what ended up out there and what people heard. 678 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: I have one question about it. Each other, Yeah, well. 679 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 5: It just felt better. I mean, what what was the 680 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 5: thing is that? Because I wanted to. 681 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: Time it comes on, I'm like, you know what each other. 682 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 2: I had this thing that I was really like, I 683 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: wanted to play with vowel sounds, and I wanted to 684 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: do I don't like the feeling of like no no 685 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: either that or I was just like really like wold 686 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: and but I just I like playing with vowel sounds, 687 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: and so I'm like, you know what if I just 688 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: twist this vowel a little bit, or twist certain things 689 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: and it feels better like that. The other part is 690 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, if I really love the performance of something, 691 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like the feeling of the 692 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: performance of it, and I'm like, I'll try to reapproach it. Yeah, 693 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: but I'm like, it's probably just gonna have to have 694 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: that mistake in there if I'm really like, I can't. 695 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: I can sing it better, but I can't get that film. Yeah, 696 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: I can't get that feeling. 697 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: But that's not a mistake, that's feeling. 698 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a feeling, and I think at the time, 699 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: so I was very much I was like, I just 700 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: want to sing and things that sound weird, not that 701 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: it's for weird sake, but just because, like you know, 702 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: I just hate being limited, like this is how I 703 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: sing and I have to sing this way. And I'm like, yeah, 704 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: but I'm I'm feeling like changing the place I'm singing 705 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 2: from or so I'm experimenting with stuff like that. 706 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 5: Honestly. Yeah, I had to ask, you know what I mean? 707 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: So rise Up just goes crazy. Yeah, it just goes. 708 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: It goes crazy. Like my daughter Jordan at her graduation, 709 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: she that's the solo she sang for her graduating class. 710 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: I cried a little bit, you know, I cried crazy, 711 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: you cry crazy. I cried enough, But it was but 712 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: it was just like the song and that the moment, 713 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: like all of these things, the song is such a 714 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: defining moment for so many moments, like not skipping the steps. 715 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: Do you feel a sense of like finally, when when 716 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: this record becomes because this is a different level of 717 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: hit record. 718 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, different level global. 719 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: It's global, it's it's on TV. Yeah, it's American Idol, 720 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: it's it's everywhere. Yeah, that's not a normal hit record. 721 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: That is a phenomenon. 722 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah I got the I got. 723 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: The account to prove it. 724 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 5: I really know. 725 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes I did. Actually Actually, to be honest with you, 726 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: that's what I always tell people. 727 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 5: I was like, I really you know what I mean. 728 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 5: It's not just like fake humble tip. 729 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 2: It's just like like we freestyled it right, which sounds like, okay, 730 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: a flex But it was one of those things that 731 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: I realized like like when we freestyled, not the whole thing, 732 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: but like most of it, like rise up, do it 733 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: a thousand times again. It was just she was playing 734 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: these chords and it's like it's just simple chords, simple 735 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: four chords, you know what I mean, repetition whatever. And 736 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: I was like, I literally prayed. I prayed when I 737 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: was in the car, and I was like, God, I 738 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: don't even want to be here, to be honest with you, 739 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was like, friend, it 740 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: had been diagnosed with cancer, like you know, just weren't 741 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: happening in the career, and it just felt like such 742 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: a long time, and like I think it was the 743 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 2: first time. I started to be like, is this not 744 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: going to happen, Like, you know, I don't know what 745 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: else to do. I don't know, you know. And so 746 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: I just prayed and I was like, Lord, just you speak, 747 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't want just like 748 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: you inhabit the space you speak and let whatever come out. 749 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: So she started playing these chords and I just started singing, 750 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: and a lot of the song I have it. 751 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 5: I'll find it at some point, I'll find it. I'll 752 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 5: send it to you. 753 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: A lot of the song came out just in that 754 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: first kind of like playing around take and so I 755 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: would tell people, I'm like, yeah, I did write it, 756 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: but like it was definitely you know, the moments where 757 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 2: you're clear you're a vessel, you know what I'm saying, 758 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: And you're like, okay, so that's why you know the 759 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 2: song doing what it did. I I will say, like, yes, 760 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 2: it felt like yes finally, but it also felt like 761 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 2: whoa that I didn't expect you know what I'm saying 762 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: like that, I did not anticipate it. I didn't anticipate 763 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: it doing what it does for people, or like being 764 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 2: the anthem for Black Lives Matter. I didn't anticipate it, 765 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: Like I'll put it like this, I didn't anticipate it 766 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: being like life changing and saving. Like when we do 767 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: tours and we do like meet and greets, right, I 768 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: always tell my team because they'd be like, Andrew, you 769 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, meet and greets, Like we got 770 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: to get out of here. But I'm like, my nigga, 771 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 2: who do I rush the nigga who's like parent was 772 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: diagnosed with cancer or the nigga who just tried to 773 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: kill herself, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm like, 774 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: so it's like I get a lot of that and 775 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: it's amazing where you would think it would depress you. 776 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: It just re reminds me of like the power of music. 777 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 2: Which I believe is at its core. I believe it 778 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: was designed to be healing. But I get people all 779 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: the time it's like, wow, I was literally going to 780 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: kill myself. I listened to your song. I did, and 781 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, you know what I'm saying, Like, or 782 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 2: I just or I was had the bottle of pills, 783 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: or I had this, or I'm going through depression, or 784 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: I lost a family member or I had one family. 785 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 2: Say this woman she was diagnosed with cancer. We were 786 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: on stage and we brought her up and so we 787 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: just had the audience. We just prayed over her. You know. 788 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 2: She did end up passing away, and then her family 789 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 2: was like, oh, you know, her request is that you're 790 00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 2: there during her dying moment. 791 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 5: And so it was like me, her and her family, 792 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 5: and I. 793 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: Was like, like, you know, it's one of those things 794 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: that you're like, you guys, I really don't you know 795 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: what I mean. I feel like this feels very intrusive, 796 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 2: and I don't, but you're just reminded like it's not 797 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: about you. They just want what they believe that spirit is, 798 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like, And so I definitely 799 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: did not anticipate it doing what it did, and I'm 800 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: super super grateful. 801 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, amazing record. Thank you. 802 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: I was just when you said, like, who do I rush, 803 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, rush, Yeah, I'm so connected. 804 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 5: You're like, sorry, I'm busy. We have to you know 805 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 5: what I mean. 806 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, spot, it's hard because this person has been 807 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: waiting since they heard the song, you know what I mean, 808 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: to come to this show for however long, the year, whatever, 809 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: and has this heavy, heavy story and that's what they 810 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 2: want to get off. And so it's hard to be like, 811 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 2: I don't have time to hear your life change, you 812 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm like, it's you just got 813 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 2: to make time. You gotta figure it out, you know 814 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 815 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: And I think because a lot of times we're on 816 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: the other side of it, we're so we're so used 817 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: to just just ring and bing the vessel and just 818 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: doing what we're called to do that we never really 819 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: get to stop and and kind of visualize and understand 820 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: the effects of what we do, like to really have 821 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: those conversations, like I really just I just make it 822 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: a point to just just stop and talk to anybody, 823 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just see where it's going 824 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: and it's like he said, some of the craziest conversations, 825 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: some of the craziest connections. And then for me, like 826 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: Jai'll tell you, like I've never met a stranger, I'll 827 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: just treat connection. 828 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 5: I can see that, and I like that. 829 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: We'll just talk till we figure out some common ground. 830 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: When I first met you all those years ago, that's 831 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: I was like, you were so nice. It was actually 832 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 2: me and Ed Sheeran. I don't know if you remember 833 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 2: that night, no way, it was before he blew up. 834 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: It was crazy, you know, he was docular. Yeah, he 835 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: was doing his circular singing dah da dada, and all 836 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: the ladies in the audience was like, oh my god, 837 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: this white boy ginger. It's like my brawls off and 838 00:38:59,680 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: throw it. 839 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 5: It was crazy. Yeah, the night was nuts, and you 840 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: were just so kind and so cool, and I. 841 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: Believe it was that that was a time to We 842 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: used to have a time at Army. 843 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so fun. It was so fun. It 844 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 5: got crazy when he went to the Key Club too. 845 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: I remember so many nights. I remember we saying jeousy. 846 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: One night, it was a Grammy night. I think it 847 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 1: was we say the Grammy Knights, Lonnie, I think texts 848 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: he Joousy. I remember when Brandy sang and all the 849 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: dudes and was in the corner hugging each other like 850 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: it was just like they were funning over Brandy, like Brandy, 851 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: like Christopher Williams. You know what I'm saying, pull it 852 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: up on the motorcycle. God knows what his book bag. 853 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: You know, I said, don't touch my bag, nigga, shout 854 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: out Christopher Williams. He is not a game. I gotta 855 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: get here on it. But that time, it was like, 856 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: you know what a time. 857 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 4: And I said, one of the steps. 858 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's one of the steps, 859 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: Like I think that, and it's like very fond memories. 860 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: So it was a long journey, but I'm they're all 861 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: fond memories, you know what I'm saying. So like and 862 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 2: meeting you for the first time too, because I was 863 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: just a big fan of your voice and your music 864 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: and it's like, wow, he's just so cool. You know, 865 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 2: that felt like another step, This is my big opportunity, 866 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, yeah, I know it was. It was 867 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 2: actually that experience was amazing. So yeah, that was actually 868 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 2: when I first met you is there. 869 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: Tour after that? Is? Did we do we go straight 870 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: on a world tour? 871 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: Like after we after we dropped the album? Oh, actually, 872 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 2: how fast? I don't remember how quickly. My memory is terrible. 873 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't remember how quickly we went on tour after that. 874 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 2: I think it was fairly quickly. Actually after we released 875 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: the Yeah, no, we started touring pretty immediately. But my 876 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: first tour was opening actually for Lenny Kravitz, which I 877 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: thought was just like, so, yeah. 878 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: Some tequila. 879 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 6: Listen, So it's gonna be it's gonna be one of 880 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 6: the nights I'm gonna easy to just keep coming back, could. 881 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 5: You right hand? 882 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: Flat? 883 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: No, it was actually, well, it's funny. Touring with Lenny 884 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 2: was an amazing experience. A he was just really amazing 885 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: and it was just like mister sir Kravitz. 886 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 5: But yeah, it was great. 887 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: Touring with him just because it was a great experience 888 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: learning a lot watching him. Also what was really interesting 889 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 2: too was just to see like his audience. You know 890 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, It's a really really I had no 891 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: idea who was going to show up and who would 892 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: be in the audience each city we showed up, you 893 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So it was like really interesting 894 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: to be surprised by like the diversity and like the 895 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: group of people in his audience. I was like, Okay, 896 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 2: this is really interesting, Like you know, he's like tapped 897 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 2: something here, and so it was just I mean, he's 898 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: a legend, and so it was just great watching him 899 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: how he manured with his band and with you know 900 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like and he runs a tight ship 901 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: in a great way, and then he puts on a 902 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: great show because of that, you. 903 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 5: Know what i mean. 904 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: Like, but the first time, I'm not gonna lie to 905 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: the first night I was tricked on that tour because 906 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: the first night I got to it was Toronto. Toronto 907 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 2: was the first date and that was the first time 908 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: I had been to I think it was the first 909 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: time I had been in Canada. But I get in 910 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: my hotel room and I'm like, nigga, I opened the 911 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 2: door and I close it back cause I was like, 912 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: oh shit, like I accidentally opened the wine cellar, you 913 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I went, so I got to 914 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: had to go back get the key and doll stuff, 915 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 2: and they were like, no, that was your room. I 916 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: opened it up. I was like, no, the wine cellar 917 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 2: was just a huge middle section. My room was massive. 918 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: I was like, this is the biggest thing I've ever 919 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: been in in my life. 920 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 5: It was so huge. 921 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 2: It had multiple rooms with a pool table and an 922 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: entertainment room and it had a whole wine nigga. I 923 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 2: was like, is this Did they accidentally give me Drake 924 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: sweet Like? I was like, this is so nigga. I 925 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: was like, what is going on? And then we get 926 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: to the first day of tour and they had this 927 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: huge spread and they was like all of this charcouterie 928 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: boards and seafood and you know what I'm saying, like everything. 929 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 2: It was like so amazed. I was like, yo, tours 930 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 2: lit like I don't know what Michael Jackson was talking about. 931 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 5: That shit fire Like amazing. You know, I love tour. 932 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 5: But next tour day I was like it was me 933 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 5: in a roach in my time at the hotel. 934 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: I was like, road, that's for you, bro. 935 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: The first day had me up. I was like, I've 936 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 2: some trouble right now. That second day was very clear. 937 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 5: I was like, what is all. 938 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: That I've been in rooms? 939 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 3: Right? 940 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: I don't take my sweat, I'm not sleep standing up 941 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 2: in the middle of the room. I stood like to 942 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: be like, Jay, is the day room exactly. I was like, 943 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: day room, but these bad bugs are gonna last for 944 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. 945 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm not sleeping in here. 946 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 5: We're the same when the coups of that, oh, we're 947 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 5: definitely I'll go back for that. 948 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 2: Because they got a book hotels, Correc got a book 949 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 2: hotel all the time, and I'd be. 950 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, bro, it's fine, it's the days in, 951 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: but it's the upgraded version, upgraded days. 952 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 4: In the day. 953 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 5: Wait, what's the days in? What's the upgraded days in? 954 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, hotel. 955 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 956 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: So as you walk you just know it's chicken. 957 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 5: I feel so bad. I feel bad. 958 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 2: They walk into a room and they could look around 959 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: and they look at me. They they'd be like, we're 960 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 2: not staying here. Don't even drop a bag, We're leaving immediately. 961 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 2: I just yeah, dirtiness, it's more you. 962 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 5: Travel, you just be like, bro, niggas are dirty. Bro, 963 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 5: planes are dirty. 964 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 6: Some cities you go to they don't have free stars. 965 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 6: You know, many times a promoter has said that to 966 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 6: me on the phone. You're right, yeah, and I'm like, yeah, 967 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 6: so how far is the nearest four. 968 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 4: Or five stars city? 969 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 6: Right, let's the contracts running four stars are better. 970 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 2: So you were like, what's the nearest city so we 971 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 2: can read route the day and give me a two 972 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 2: hour commute time. 973 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 5: Because I'm like, no. 974 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 1: I remember plenty of nights where because you know I sleep. 975 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 5: In the suv. I was sleeping the suv before I. 976 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: Was big South. 977 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, in two thousand, two. 978 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 1: Thousand, and I remember many nights, God rest his soul brother, 979 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: Window was sleeping in the chair in his room. In 980 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: the chair. Yep, I can't get in that bed. 981 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 5: I'm not doing it. No way, I'm not doing it. 982 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm not doing me. I'm but nig in sept I 983 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: can't know there we got in the morning. 984 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 5: I'm not mad at you, because that's why you sound 985 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 5: the way you say. 986 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: You prioritize sleep. I was like, they gonna get this 987 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: twenty four hour no sleep performance. I was like, I 988 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 2: am not getting in it because some things last a lifetime. 989 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: You never know, you know what I'm saying. I'm like 990 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: something some bikes. Yeah, I'm not mad at it. 991 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I didn't get spoiled they. 992 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 5: Would have started with the Roach Hotel, I would have 993 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 5: been good. You know what I'm saying. But I was like, 994 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 5: I know, but. 995 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: I also started as the background singer too, so I 996 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: wasn't part of the A group. I was part of 997 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: the B group, So you know what I'm saying. It 998 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: was definitely motel life where you just walk out of 999 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: your room outside. You know what I'm saying. 1000 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 5: You're right, You're right yet so. 1001 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: For me, it was just like, okay, this is no. 1002 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: There's a little bit of that in me too, because 1003 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 2: there are moments now that I think about it, I 1004 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, there were moments like we just started out. 1005 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 2: I would literally be asleep on coats on the airport floor, 1006 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So yeah, that's something I 1007 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 2: would never do that, would never do that. Now, I'm 1008 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I'm terrified, you know what I mean. 1009 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 2: People's feet, but. 1010 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 5: Everyone has their everybody it has Yes, I don't know, like. 1011 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: Like you were a big questions give me. 1012 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 5: You know. 1013 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: You dropped the bottom. 1014 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 5: I feel you a little bit. I feel you all 1015 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 5: that definitely. 1016 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so you go crazy on tour. Is the movie 1017 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 1: next or the movie comes after your next project? 1018 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 5: Uh no, the movie came right after. 1019 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: So this is actually the album that we're releasing is 1020 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: only my second album, Like it's just been such a 1021 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 2: long time. So the movie actually came like after we 1022 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: did the whole album, so like, and we did a 1023 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 2: couple of tours too. I did a solo tour as well, 1024 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 2: and then we toured with Leon Bridges and so yeah, 1025 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 2: we did a few tours and festivals and we did 1026 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 2: the whole circuit, you know what I mean. It was 1027 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 2: an amazing experience, and it just because of the nature of 1028 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: Rise Up, it honestly just kept going and kind of 1029 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:34,879 Speaker 2: does keep going. 1030 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 5: Like I tell people, this sounds so bad, y'all. I 1031 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 5: don't even know. 1032 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: I'd say this, but Rise Up is sometimes I feel 1033 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: bad because I'm like, Okay, I gotta, We're just we gotta. 1034 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,479 Speaker 5: We just donate, you know what I'm saying. 1035 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 2: And we gotta donate because I'm like, Rise Up will 1036 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 2: stream and it's amazing because the song has that power 1037 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: and it's oftentimes people are like I need this to 1038 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 2: get through this moment or yeah. But like during the 1039 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter movement in the march, if there's a 1040 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 2: huge crisis that happens. Oftentimes it was Skyrocket because it 1041 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 2: just becomes the song of them are feeling bad. I'm like, 1042 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: I feel like this is like a war weapon, like 1043 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 2: I need to do something with this. So it lasts 1044 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 2: kind of The Psycho lasted quite a long time. And 1045 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 2: then so once we kind of really finished, and I 1046 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 2: really decided in myself too, I was like, Okay, I'm 1047 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 2: grateful for this, but I really want now. 1048 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 5: I want to start working on new music. 1049 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 2: I'm in that place, you know, And what I wanted 1050 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 2: to do this time was like I wanted to produce 1051 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 2: more on this project, and I wanted to I loved 1052 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 2: my touring band, like they're my family. They've been with 1053 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 2: me since the beginning. And there's something about them, you 1054 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: know when you find those players that you're like, they're 1055 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 2: so genius, but you're also comfortable enough to like, yeah, 1056 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 2: you're connected, they understand you. It's instinct like, and you're 1057 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 2: comfortable enough to fail around them. Does that make sense? 1058 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 2: Like I always tell people I don't play. I wish 1059 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 2: I did. I want to learn. I'm working on it, actually, 1060 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: but I don't play, you know what I mean? So 1061 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 2: everything is guesswork for me? You know what you want 1062 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 2: to hear I do, so it's all my you know 1063 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 2: what I mean. And they're really like tapped into that. 1064 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay. And then we know, like 1065 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 2: in the business, like we work in the music industry, 1066 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 2: and the people who are treated probably the worst are 1067 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 2: usually musicians, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, 1068 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 2: and dancers, absolutely, and so I'm like, well, I'm tired 1069 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 2: of kind of fighting for them, so I just want 1070 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: to bring them in the studio, make them producers, you 1071 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because they all have great years, 1072 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: they're really visionary. So I was like, that's what I'm 1073 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 2: gonna do. I'm gonna just build this next record, and 1074 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 2: it's just gonna be us in the studio producing, doing 1075 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: what we do on the road, you know what I'm saying, 1076 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 2: and like, and so it definitely took a lot more 1077 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 2: time than I had anticipated, but it was worth it, 1078 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 1079 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: Like you're saying, this is going to be your second 1080 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: this is the second. Start counting the years, Yeah. 1081 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 2: It's been seven it's been since I released my last record. 1082 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 5: It's been nine years. 1083 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we did we did do three movies in between, 1084 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 2: so it wasn'ttive. 1085 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 5: No, well you know what's so funny? So funny? No, no, 1086 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 5: I want no no. 1087 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 2: But when she do, you know, when she don't pull 1088 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 2: up on me, we will be right back here talking 1089 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: about it. 1090 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 5: But no, she's so. 1091 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 2: But it's funny because in the beginning of my career 1092 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: they asked me. They were like, you know, they ask 1093 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 2: you crazy questions. Who do you want to model your 1094 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 2: career after. I'm like, y'all, come on, bro, like just 1095 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: you know, like it feels like a weird question to answer. 1096 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1097 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 2: Maybe I was just arrogant at the time, but I 1098 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: was like, I don't like that, you know what I mean, Like, 1099 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 2: let's just I can tell you artists I like. 1100 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 5: But they were like, we really need to know, we 1101 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 5: really need to talk. It's okay. 1102 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 2: So I was like, and one of the people I 1103 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: named was Shade, and they were like, well, she only 1104 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 2: releases some records like every seven years, every nine years, 1105 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 2: every whatever. And at the time I was like, no, no, 1106 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 2: we're going to release more records. I just you know, 1107 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: I like the vibe. 1108 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 5: I like, what no. Nine years later exactly, So it 1109 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:46,879 Speaker 5: just happened that way. 1110 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: Is that. Of course, I know you take your time 1111 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: making music, but also is that kind of a testament 1112 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: of the success of that first record, Like you said, 1113 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 1: that record has not come to a close. And from 1114 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: a business standpoint, you've you you as a writer and 1115 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: a producer. If you know that language, you continue to 1116 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: do very well. So it's not like you have to rush. Yeah, thing, 1117 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: is that part of it? 1118 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 2: I think I think that. I definitely think that's a 1119 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 2: part of it. Like I said, the cycle was really long, 1120 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 2: and it does all right. Yeah, there's a little bit 1121 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 2: of like not feeling like I have to rush, like 1122 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 2: I want to take my time to and I'm like 1123 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: that I really I am a perfectionist, which is terrible sometimes, 1124 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,399 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because you can really self 1125 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 2: sabotage that you really can be in your own way, 1126 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 2: and that is a balance that I'm trying to learn. 1127 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 5: Like be precious but not too precious, you know what 1128 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 1129 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 2: Because so it does afford you time, not as much 1130 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 2: time as I've taken, but but it does afford you 1131 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: to Also, I just have ADHD I get distracted. 1132 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 5: Everything's interesting, you know what I'm saying. 1133 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 2: Everything I keep staying at that curtent. I'm like, why 1134 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 2: is that one different from the rest of them? 1135 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, we're still working on 1136 00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: that right over. 1137 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 5: I was like, you know it turn over, but I 1138 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 5: like it. I like the variation, you know. No, so 1139 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 5: there was like taking at the. 1140 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: Track at all. 1141 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: I was like, I want to kidding right, no, but yeah, 1142 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 2: So it definitely does afford you time, but also the 1143 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,399 Speaker 2: time in between the record because I'm so hands on, 1144 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 2: you know which, like I said, I'm really learning too 1145 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 2: in my life. I'm like, all right, cool, this is great, 1146 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 2: hold on to this. This is a detriment, like grow 1147 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 2: from it, move on, you know what I mean. But 1148 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 2: I'm also like it was also the movies, Like, so 1149 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 2: we I started the record, we started producing the record 1150 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 2: and writing in twenty seventeen, and then I got the call. 1151 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 5: I got the call. 1152 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 2: At the end of twenty seventeen about like, hey, we 1153 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 2: want you to do Billie Holiday. 1154 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 5: And I was like, the hell are y'all talking about? 1155 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: You just got the call? 1156 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? They had, Like no, I hadn't at this point yet. 1157 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 5: I did. 1158 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: I ended up auditioning for it, but they just got 1159 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 2: a call to meet with Lee, you know, because his 1160 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 2: team and everybody was like, she's the perfect person for it, 1161 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,399 Speaker 2: which makes me laugh so much to this day because 1162 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 2: my response was like, what are you talking about? 1163 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 5: I just love Billie Holiday. I'm not an actress, you 1164 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 5: know what I mean? 1165 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 6: Like they know about that, that that call you went 1166 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 6: on earlier, that that model. 1167 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 5: Saw my stuff on John Robert Powers on the pictures 1168 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 5: that I right, I pay some for the pictures. I 1169 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 5: was like, I'm gonna go another way. 1170 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 2: But yeah, so so I think that it took a 1171 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 2: long time because we ended up doing that movie and 1172 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 2: then we've shot i think two other movies on the 1173 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 2: in between, so that definitely took a lot of time. 1174 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 5: COVID hit, you know what I mean. 1175 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 2: It's just like the timing of everything was crazy, and 1176 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: you're right, like Rise Up still does its things, so 1177 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 2: you know, it's definitely I'm looking at my team now. 1178 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,479 Speaker 5: There's definitely more pressure. Now, my god, look can. 1179 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, I mean we just can't glance 1180 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: over you know, over Billy. It's hard to glance over 1181 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: that when you were nominated for an Oscar. You want 1182 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 1: to that golden globe that you you won that yeah, 1183 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 1: you won that Grammy Grammy. Yeah, uh, a celebration. Celebration 1184 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: of course you were, as you say, because I'm not 1185 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: an actor. As you just say, said that that is so. 1186 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 5: Wrong. 1187 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: It's not even close to not You're not you. I 1188 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: don't know what you were thinking at the time, but 1189 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,239 Speaker 1: when you got in front of that camera, Jesus. 1190 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 5: Christ, thank you so much. 1191 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 2: Well at the time, I was not though. If they 1192 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 2: would have shot the movie at that time, you would 1193 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 2: have been like. 1194 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 1: Jesus, so, how long did you so you went to prep? 1195 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, definitely, so so I once I actually 1196 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 2: agreed to do it because Lee and I were both skeptical. 1197 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 2: You know, his team's telling him you got to meet 1198 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 2: with her. He's like, why would I meet with her? 1199 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 2: She's not an actress. My team's like, I mean, I'm like, 1200 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 2: I'm not an actress. Why But I was like, you 1201 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,879 Speaker 2: know what, the long way around, not skipping steps to say, 1202 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 2: you know what, Lee Daniels is a good person to know. 1203 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 2: I should probably just meet him, you know what I mean, Like, 1204 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 2: definitely not going to do this movie, but why not? 1205 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 1206 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 2: If I want to do music or play some music 1207 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 2: or whatever, something like that let's just let me just 1208 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 2: chop it up with him real quick and just see, 1209 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 2: you know what he's talking about. So we met and 1210 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 2: it was just like, I'm such a huge fan of 1211 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 2: Billy Holliday, So I like that she's really probably one 1212 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: of my foremost inspirations and she is actually I'm just like. 1213 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 5: But so I really really love her. 1214 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 2: So meeting with him and his passion he was he 1215 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 2: was a fan of ladies sings the blues, that was 1216 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 2: his thing. And so once he discovered more about Billie 1217 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 2: Holliday and her fight with strange fruit, like most people's 1218 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 2: idea of her is that she was a godmother of 1219 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 2: jazz music, right, you know what I mean. She was 1220 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 2: probably the most famous jazz singer you know at the time, 1221 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 2: and and she was a tragic drug addict, which is 1222 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 2: not the case, you know what I mean. Those things 1223 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 2: were true in her life, you know, but she was 1224 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,760 Speaker 2: hunted and so like I knew that as a study 1225 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 2: of her because I became familiar with her when I 1226 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 2: was like eleven years old, and I just was a 1227 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 2: huge fan of her. Like I said, the way she's sang, 1228 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 2: you know, I was trying to play with my voice 1229 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 2: more because I love her identity, and so I really 1230 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 2: love I sat with him and he was really so 1231 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 2: enamored and so passionate. 1232 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 5: About this story. 1233 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: He was like, people need to know this about her, 1234 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 2: And so he breaks down what he's gonna do and 1235 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 2: how he's gonna like, you know, just he's trying to 1236 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 2: vindicate really her legacy. He was like, I'm making this 1237 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 2: for black women, Like I'm you know, I want people 1238 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 2: to know she's a fier. I'm so moved by her 1239 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 2: story and by this song strench Fruit. He wasn't even 1240 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 2: really familiar. 1241 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 5: With the song and so. 1242 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 4: And so I was. 1243 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 5: I really loved that. I was like, I really love 1244 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 5: how passionate he is. 1245 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 2: But I'm excited for him and whoever he gets to 1246 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 2: do the movie. 1247 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 5: But I still yeah, because I was like, I love her. 1248 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: So I told people, I said, my biggest fear was 1249 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 2: like people would be like, oh, I love Billie Holliday, 1250 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you remember the amazing you know, Diana 1251 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 2: Ross and Ladies Sings the Blues. Oh you remember the 1252 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 2: amazing Audrey McDonald on Broadway. Oh you remember when Andrew 1253 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 2: did it? 1254 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like, I didn't want to 1255 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 5: be that. 1256 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like everybody, yo, bro. 1257 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, like wow, you are Prince Petty. 1258 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: That is our friend. 1259 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 2: So so yeah, so I was like I can't. 1260 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 5: So yeah. So I met with him and he introduced me. 1261 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 5: He was like, you know what, he didn't. 1262 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 2: What I love about Lee is he didn't just kind 1263 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: of throw me to the wolves and be like whatever, 1264 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 2: let's see. So before we even did the audition, he 1265 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 2: got me with Tasha Smith Smith, who was my acting. 1266 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: Coach, who is. 1267 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 2: An amazing director, actress coach. Like she's just all the 1268 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 2: things and a sister, you know. So he linked me 1269 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 2: with her and to prepare me for the audition. So 1270 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 2: I just thought that was really Like That's why I 1271 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 2: tell people. I'm like, you know, I'm grateful, and I'm 1272 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 2: grateful that people love the performance, but it would not 1273 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 2: have been that performance without eight I think there are 1274 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 2: very very few, and when I say a handful, I 1275 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 2: mean maybe like three fingers directors in Hollywood that can 1276 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 2: pull performances out of actors the way Lee does, you 1277 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean, There's just like very very few 1278 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 2: people of Scorsese's like that. Lee is like that, Like, 1279 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: so it was a combination of like her coaching, her 1280 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 2: believing in me even more than I did in the beginning, 1281 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 2: and him believing in me and his direction, you know. 1282 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 2: So he got me with her. And then he said 1283 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: he saw a little tape of He always when he 1284 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 2: tells the story, he says he saw a tape. She 1285 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 2: sent him a clip of me, just like going through 1286 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 2: the scenes, he said. And in that moment I knew. 1287 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 2: He's like, you weren't acting, you were just being you 1288 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean? He was like, that was the 1289 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 2: moment I knew you were billying so so, and then 1290 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 2: they did this thing where like I was preparing for 1291 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 2: the role like a lot before before because I got 1292 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 2: it at the top of twenty eighteen and start filming 1293 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 2: until the very end of. 1294 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 5: Or did I get it twenty seventeen. I can't remember. 1295 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 2: We didn't start filming until the end of twenty nineteen. 1296 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 2: So I was kind of in her headspace changing for 1297 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 2: a long time. I started smoking cigarettes, I started drinking alcohol, 1298 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 2: started cussing for which I didn't do. 1299 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 5: It still hasn't gone away, but and you just went 1300 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 5: you just yeah. 1301 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what she told She trained me from a 1302 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 2: different thing, she said, But what you did, sis is 1303 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,479 Speaker 2: you did what I trained you. But she also trained 1304 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 2: me to just do what you need to do to 1305 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 2: get it, you know what I mean. And so she 1306 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 2: trained me in this particular way and then she said, 1307 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 2: you also incorporated some method and so it was just 1308 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,959 Speaker 2: like and then they we didn't get in and start 1309 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 2: coaching heavily until that was Lee's call. Lee was like, 1310 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't want you to get with her until two 1311 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 2: weeks right before we go to film, and then intensively 1312 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 2: work with her because he really and it worked because 1313 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 2: he had this idea that he was like, I want 1314 00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 2: the anxiety and because Billy would have that in her 1315 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 2: life during this. 1316 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 5: Period of her life. 1317 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: I want the anxiety and the nerves, and I want 1318 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 2: her to be super present and I want all that 1319 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 2: to work for her. And so it was a combination 1320 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 2: of all of my preparation those intense. 1321 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Two weeks so smart. 1322 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 5: I was super grateful just it all came together, you 1323 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 5: know what I mean. 1324 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: You are absolutely amazing. 1325 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate it taking movie special that afforded 1326 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 5: me some more time. 1327 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: I just didn't like the way you left your band 1328 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: in the middle of it. 1329 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's exactly this fake turner. Nigga cocaine is 1330 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 2: a hell of a drug, Like you do some crazy things. 1331 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah right, it was like, come on, Billy, No, there 1332 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 2: were so many moments they were like working the script 1333 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 2: because she's super lovable, like when you read her biography 1334 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,120 Speaker 2: and all the things. But she did crazy ship too, 1335 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, and she would do 1336 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 2: stuff that you would be like, wow, I really can't 1337 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 2: stand that. But for whatever reason, people still loved her. 1338 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: So they it was an artist. 1339 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, she really was, and she was. She Also here's 1340 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 2: the thing about Billy. She was a woman of a 1341 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 2: different time, you know what I'm saying, Like, and you 1342 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 2: forget that like she was like her saying was like 1343 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be nobody's I didn't want to 1344 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 1345 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 5: She ended up working. 1346 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 2: She started working in a she was raped at ten, 1347 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: and then she started working in a brothel by the 1348 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 2: age eleven. 1349 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 5: I think with her mom, you know what I mean. 1350 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 2: So, and she had women too, She ran girls like 1351 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 2: she was a She was a hard woman and she 1352 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 2: was from a different time and she had to survive. 1353 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 2: And so her saying was like I didn't want to 1354 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 2: be nobody's damn maids. So she used to like clean 1355 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: the steps of people's houses and like wealthy white people 1356 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 2: for like a nickel in Baltimore. 1357 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 5: Or you know what I mean. 1358 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 2: And so she just like she dealt with a lot 1359 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 2: of men who were super abusive, you know what I mean. 1360 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 2: She was stolen from oftentimes, and you know, she was 1361 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 2: abused physically, abused sexually all the things. But she it 1362 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 2: made her hard and it made her very like you know, 1363 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 2: but truthfully, it also made her a fighter and made 1364 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 2: her who she was. You know, So like people forget 1365 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 2: like to be a black woman in the twenties and 1366 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,479 Speaker 2: the thirties and the forties, it's way different. 1367 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 5: It's way you know what I mean. 1368 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 2: Like, so yeah, it's interesting. So yeah, she was, she 1369 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 2: was out there. You should read her biography if you 1370 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 2: haven't read, it's funny as well. 1371 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: You just did amazing. It's just tough to do. It's 1372 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: just it's just because, like you said, to be that 1373 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: to be that one person out of all the people 1374 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: who've come before you to not nail it, Oh my god, right, 1375 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: that that pressure is tersting. 1376 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 5: That was terrible. 1377 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: But for leaders say, let's use that. 1378 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. Use that anxiety. 1379 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 6: Use that anxiety, and that's why a part of it 1380 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 6: why she was using drugs. 1381 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, and her people forget about that all the time. 1382 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm like that she didn't just be like, oh, let 1383 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 2: me pick it up. And a lot of these drugs 1384 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 2: were planted on musicians, you know what I mean, This 1385 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 2: was put like that's like people, the drug war was 1386 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 2: not in the eighties. That started in like the thirties 1387 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 2: and the forties, you know what I mean with jazz musicians, 1388 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 2: particularly black jazz musicians. 1389 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 5: You know, so, and it's still and it's still. 1390 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 6: The thing is it's so you know, once again, we 1391 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 6: always we try to have moments as many moments on 1392 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 6: this podcast as possible to be informative. 1393 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, for me. 1394 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 6: I would just you know, to any young artist that's 1395 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 6: out there, understand when they're giving you these things is 1396 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 6: to control you, you know what I mean, because you're 1397 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 6: you're not on your dean at this point, you're not 1398 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 6: standing on your platform. They're knocking you off of it 1399 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 6: by telling you, oh, it's just gonna take the edge 1400 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 6: off or it's gone. Now you're on lean. Now you're 1401 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 6: smoking way too much weed. Now you're doing coke. Now 1402 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 6: you're doing whatever the. 1403 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 2: Thing is, Like, you look cooler. It's cool as an 1404 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: artist for you to do this thing. And that's the vibe. 1405 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 2: And that's all this stuff. Like I love that you 1406 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: bring it up too, because I tell like, you know, 1407 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 2: like I said, the drug world to me, when I 1408 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 2: go we talk, we can go back like chattel slavery right, 1409 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, segregation right, Jim Crow, reconstruction, you know, lynching 1410 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,240 Speaker 2: and America. The thing I believe as a community that 1411 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 2: took us out the most is drugs because it took 1412 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 2: our soul and our drive and our motivation. We went 1413 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 2: through chattle slavery, and we still became land on owners 1414 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 2: and community owners. Like when people go, oh, black people, 1415 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 2: we need invest in charice businesses, we have. We have 1416 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 2: done that over and over and over again. Every time 1417 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 2: you walk through Central Park, that was a thriving black community. 1418 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,959 Speaker 2: Every time you go to these major lakes and enjoy 1419 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 2: the water, those were wealthy, thriving black communities, right. And 1420 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 2: so the drugs, I feel like, is the thing that 1421 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 2: I look back on that I'm like that that's a 1422 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 2: part of the institution and that's what took the soul 1423 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 2: and the drive, you know what I'm saying, like not 1424 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 2: that we are still going to thrive and we still 1425 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 2: get it back, but I agree with you. I definitely 1426 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 2: feel like the thing that you that's to control. You 1427 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 2: absolutely took the men absolutely. 1428 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Which was absolutely that's the foundation. 1429 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, what we were are. 1430 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: The strong men in our community. It's the fathers, the grandfathers, 1431 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and all that being passed down, 1432 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: it started missing generations because yeah, they were either strung 1433 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 1: out or sit in jail. 1434 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 5: Right exactly. 1435 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah, so you did amazing. You got 1436 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: two more movie. You did two more movies which helped 1437 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 1: you pass you know, the nine years. What's going on? 1438 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 5: I started buying property. 1439 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 2: It was like just small, like small things. We were 1440 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 2: filming the Lee and I did a movie called The Deliverance. 1441 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 5: I'm so excited about that. 1442 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 2: It was like and this was like Leah is so amazing, 1443 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 2: Like I honestly he has really just loved and supported 1444 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 2: me and put me in great positions. So like this cast, 1445 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 2: like to be able to lead a cast like you 1446 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 2: know of Oscar winners and nominated actors and actresses. It's 1447 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 2: like my castmates were Glenn Close, Monique Andrew Ellis, Caleb McLoughlin, 1448 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 2: Demi Singleton, Uh, Anthony Jenkins. Like it was just it 1449 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 2: was such an incredible cast of of of actors. And 1450 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 2: so when I was in Pittsburgh, I was kind of 1451 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 2: looking around at the market and I was like, you 1452 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like it was like, there's a 1453 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 2: lot of new bills, there was a lot the disparity 1454 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 2: between housing prices was like pretty drastic because they're building 1455 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 2: so much. It was like a lot going on. So 1456 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, let me just like 1457 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 2: dip in and just see, you know what I mean. So, 1458 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's cool to me. Listen, when you 1459 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 2: think you're never going to be able to afford to 1460 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 2: buy a car and you are able to buy a property, 1461 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's pretty it's pretty exciting. 1462 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Give me two of those. It is a long way 1463 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: from the seven eleven, long way from eleven, I mean 1464 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 1: the first No, I'm gonna just hold them until to 1465 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: the time, you know, Cassandra, Yes the new album. Yes, 1466 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen, please go get that. And I think 1467 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: I think you know, also, just on a on a 1468 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: serious note, before I get to this next segment. I 1469 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: just I just think you're needed. I think your talent, 1470 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: your gift, your energy, like that's something and it's a 1471 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 1: great time for you because because because of how things 1472 01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,680 Speaker 1: have turned and how they're now needing what we do. 1473 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 5: Yeah right, that's real. 1474 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 1: And it's refreshing that ship this whole time. 1475 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 6: You know, I didn't know she wanted the one. 1476 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: I thought it just saying south like get no, right, 1477 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 1: but you you need. I think I think you're just 1478 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, you're You're a dope example of what I think. 1479 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: You know what I think young girls should be able 1480 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,479 Speaker 1: to see and aspire to. 1481 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 5: Thank you. Wow, I really appreciate that. Thank you, Thank 1482 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,479 Speaker 5: you that really does. 1483 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 1: That is that is a thing. Thank you to a 1484 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: specially talented moment in our god where I want to 1485 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: get into your mind. You've been inspired by so many, 1486 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,480 Speaker 1: so many of the greats. You've been able to portray 1487 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 1: one of the crates. But we want to know right 1488 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: now as we vibe you'r we want to know. 1489 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 3: Top five, Yeah, your top five, top five, Your top 1490 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 3: five are the easing. 1491 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:52,879 Speaker 6: Whatever. 1492 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 1: We want to know that we want to say nothing 1493 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: years your h. 1494 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 5: That was definitely one of my top five R and 1495 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 5: B performances. I love that. Can I say that? 1496 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 1: Yes? 1497 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 4: Okay, Andre d Yes, I was want to say go ahead. 1498 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 5: Somebody told me they were like, it sounds more expensive. 1499 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 5: I'm like whatever. 1500 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 1: When I go into my fortnight and Day, your top 1501 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 1: five R and B singers, Top five. 1502 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 5: Armhi, this is so hard. 1503 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 2: I saw that question, I was like, so are we not? 1504 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 2: Are we doing the all encompassing? Are we not including jazz? 1505 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 1: Whatever? Okay? 1506 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 2: I would have to say, Okay, there's two worlds I 1507 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 2: live in, so I would have to say, okay, I'm 1508 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 2: gonna do two top fives. 1509 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 5: Can I do that? 1510 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 2: Because they're like, okay, So we're gonna start with Whitney 1511 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 2: for sure. We're going to go to ooh, this is 1512 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 2: so hard, bro Okay, Whitney Aretha mm hmm. We're gonna 1513 01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:02,080 Speaker 2: also say so hard okay. We're gonna say Michael that's 1514 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 2: too and Shady and Anita Baker. Yeah yeah, but okay, 1515 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,639 Speaker 2: so on the flip side, right, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 1516 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 2: it's like a little the jazzier side. We're gonna say 1517 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 2: Billie Holliday, absolutely, yes, she's definitely. We're also going to 1518 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 2: say Ella Fitzgerald. For me, it's also Erica, Jill Scott, 1519 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: and Lauren Hill. 1520 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1521 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, you see what I'm saying. I'm like, I kind 1522 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,720 Speaker 5: of had to do like who do I leave out? 1523 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 1524 01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:42,679 Speaker 1: Mad Mike. 1525 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 5: I love. I was actually thinking about going with like 1526 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 5: should I do all women do all that? Because that's 1527 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, how do I leave out? You know 1528 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 5: what I'm saying? Luther and Stevie and Beyond. I love Beyonce. Yeah, 1529 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 5: so I was like, I have to hit him with. 1530 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: Those are those are two really crazy? 1531 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 5: Top five and jazzmine She's still absolutely I'm gonna say. 1532 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Your top five R and B songs. 1533 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 5: Okay, top five. 1534 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:32,280 Speaker 2: I know, Okay, top five R and B songs, hmmm, 1535 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 2: I'll just mix them all together. This is not this 1536 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 2: is missing so many songs, but okay, so I'll say 1537 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,560 Speaker 2: to be quick, I'll say God Bless the Child. I 1538 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 2: love this song, which is more of a jazz but 1539 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 2: uh human nature Michael Jackson also, you know what I mean, 1540 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:57,960 Speaker 2: Jesus songs. 1541 01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 5: This is so crazy. 1542 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 4: Uh Oh. 1543 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 2: I love Erica's bag Lady too. I love bag Lady 1544 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 2: by Erica. That's one of my favorite. There's so many though, 1545 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 2: that's so hard to say. So I'm just gonna you 1546 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,639 Speaker 2: just already know she's one of my favorites. 1547 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 5: What I say so far mm hmmmmmm mm hmmm. And 1548 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 5: angel Anita Baker m h. 1549 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 1: That's great. 1550 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 2: And then right now I'm just trying to I feel 1551 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 2: like you can pick any shady song, Like right now, 1552 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to like pick which you will. 1553 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 5: But I'm like, how do I leave exactly? Like, oh gosh, yeah, 1554 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 5: we're going with that? There's I love. 1555 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 2: I love everything she's done. I love everything she's done. 1556 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm just gonna have to just say all 1557 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 2: I can't pick. 1558 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 5: I can't pick. 1559 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 1: I can't. 1560 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 5: M m my god, uh huh oh, you can't just 1561 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 5: be like vibe for day, Like. 1562 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:05,760 Speaker 6: It's bigger than vibe. Like that word is that word 1563 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 6: is an understate. You learn at that theater in New 1564 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 6: War figured this. 1565 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:10,759 Speaker 5: Let's tell you something. 1566 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 1: That was just. 1567 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,799 Speaker 5: I had a home gro on a school named Jennison Class. 1568 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:32,600 Speaker 1: Come on, man, where are you going? Yeah, come on, 1569 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 1: go down southeast. 1570 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 6: Some of that. 1571 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,960 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no nick hey, I ain't saying no names. 1572 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. 1573 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:42,720 Speaker 3: You was. 1574 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 1: What you did? Don't say she ain't saying. 1575 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 6: Is the greatest part, right, Okay, So yeah, we had 1576 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,719 Speaker 6: a very very very important part of the show segment. 1577 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 6: That's card I ain't saying no names. Okay, tell us 1578 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,680 Speaker 6: a story funny and fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? 1579 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 6: The only rule to the game is you can't say 1580 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 6: no name. 1581 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 5: Okay. 1582 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: And listen, You've been on tours and movie sets, a 1583 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 1: whole bunch of cool ship so much, so much cool 1584 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 1: in champagne much. 1585 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you have all these stories and then 1586 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,640 Speaker 2: you get in like on in the lights and in 1587 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 2: the camera, and my god, well yesterday I went to. 1588 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 4: Wait a minute. 1589 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 5: Okay, let's see. I do have a funny story. 1590 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 2: But bro, I don't know if I can even tell 1591 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 2: the story without y'all knowing exactly who it is. Okay, 1592 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,679 Speaker 2: you can say the name, I let me see. 1593 01:15:58,320 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's the story you want? 1594 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 5: Now, that's the what's the one? Which were you thinking of? 1595 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 5: Which one? 1596 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: Yep? 1597 01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 5: Okay, So all right, y'all gonna know. But whatever it is, 1598 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 5: what it is. 1599 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 2: So I just remember, like you know, you meet people 1600 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 2: sometimes and you know, you meet some people that you're like, 1601 01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 2: you know, you can tell from their artist persona, you 1602 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 2: can tell from everything You're like, that is a huge personality, 1603 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,640 Speaker 2: super duper ego probably you. 1604 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,160 Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying. 1605 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,800 Speaker 2: All the things that and then sometimes you meet people 1606 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 2: that you would think that and they're really sweet, they're cool, 1607 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 2: you know whatever. 1608 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: So I think. 1609 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:46,759 Speaker 5: There was one artist entertainer Mogel. 1610 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,960 Speaker 2: There was one person. No, no, there was one person. 1611 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 2: One time we were doing Essence best were you? There 1612 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,479 Speaker 2: was this the one which Essence was it. 1613 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: Was I wasn't there. 1614 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 3: I was so no. 1615 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 2: I just remember there was one time we were in 1616 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 2: our dressing room and it was myself and a bunch 1617 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 2: of other artists, you know what I'm saying, that we're there. 1618 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:06,559 Speaker 3: It was like. 1619 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 2: And I remember we were just kind of everybody was 1620 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 2: in their dressing room. It was like a common room. 1621 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 2: And then everybody was in their respective dressing rooms, you. 1622 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 5: Know what I mean. 1623 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 2: And this artist like kind of came in. They sent 1624 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,640 Speaker 2: their team and or their security team in, you know 1625 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 2: what I mean, And they and they were like, this 1626 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 2: honestly is more funny than anything. But uh so they 1627 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 2: sent their security team and there was a common room. 1628 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 2: Each person had their dressing room. This person had their 1629 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 2: dressing room too, and then we had a common room 1630 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,759 Speaker 2: and they were nice. Dressing rooms was nice. So everybody 1631 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 2: was in their dressing room and they send their team 1632 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 2: in and to go like kick everybody out of their 1633 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 2: respective dressing room. So it was like common area can't 1634 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 2: be used. And it was like and anybody and these 1635 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,760 Speaker 2: are other artists, like people that you know, you know 1636 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 2: what I mean, And so they go in and they're 1637 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,560 Speaker 2: just like, all right, this person wants to come in, 1638 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 2: so everybody has to get out. 1639 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 5: Everybody has to you know what I mean, whatever all 1640 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 5: the stuff, so you know. 1641 01:17:59,160 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: Out of this. 1642 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 2: We saw them kicking everybody out of the common room 1643 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,640 Speaker 2: and we were like, all right, cool, and then they 1644 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 2: came in and started kicking everybody out their individual rooms, 1645 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 2: and so I was like, my god, you know what 1646 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so most people, including my team, 1647 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 2: were like, we're not gonna leave unless we feel like 1648 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,640 Speaker 2: somebody official, you know what I mean, it's telling us this, 1649 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, like, and so everybody kind of stayed in 1650 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,720 Speaker 2: their dressing room. And then so the person finally came 1651 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 2: into the common area, and no one had left their 1652 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 2: dressing rooms, and they were like, all right, everybody, we're 1653 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 2: gonna pray. 1654 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my god, look at me. 1655 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,920 Speaker 5: I had underestimated this person. They want to pray, my 1656 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 5: bad Jesus, let's go ahead and do it. I judged 1657 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 5: them that was totally wrong. Blah blah blah blah. 1658 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,599 Speaker 2: So we all come out of our common dressing rooms 1659 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 2: and we all get in this massive circle and we 1660 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,759 Speaker 2: start praying. Well, we all bowed our heads to start praying, 1661 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 2: and so it's like down my head, closed my eyes, 1662 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 2: I did the thing. 1663 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Were you still kind of 1664 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 1: looking but you're not. 1665 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 5: No, no, not at this point. We're not there yet 1666 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,760 Speaker 5: at that part of the story. So I had my 1667 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 5: heads bowed, and then all of a sudden, I hear 1668 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,280 Speaker 5: I woke up this morning and I. 1669 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 2: Was me and I was like, I was so I 1670 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 2: was like, and it was a whole thing, and I 1671 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 2: was like, by the time we were dead, I thought 1672 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 2: to myself, I was like. 1673 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 5: Did they make me pray to them? 1674 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 3: Look at that? 1675 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 5: Because I damn, I'm gonna go have to repent and be. 1676 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 2: Like, God, my bad. 1677 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 5: I ain't nobody else I know that God. I didn't know. God, 1678 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,120 Speaker 5: I didn't know he was gonna do that, you know 1679 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,639 Speaker 5: what I mean. So I had to go and be like, yeah, 1680 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 5: not me at the end of the prayer talking about 1681 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,600 Speaker 5: and Jesus name. Okay, all right, thank you. 1682 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 3: No. 1683 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:33,760 Speaker 5: So that was a really interesting story. 1684 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,479 Speaker 2: That was probably my first experience with like something that 1685 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,519 Speaker 2: was that random and that bizarre, but still funny and entertaining. 1686 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 5: Like I don't know, I like a good charismatic versus 1687 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 5: to me. Yeah, I was like I was, I was tricked. 1688 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 5: I ain't realizing until we said Amen. 1689 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: I was like to who, Lord, bless these people holding 1690 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: my hand? 1691 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,679 Speaker 5: No, no, no, you did it wrong. It's me blessed, 1692 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 5: these peopeople holding Lord, just me bless me. 1693 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm a blessed these people holding my hands. Wow, I 1694 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 1: know the way truth and the light. Oh my god. 1695 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 5: My whole team was cracking up, kind of like right 1696 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 5: there you go. Yeah, it was like that. 1697 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:31,600 Speaker 1: Watch me work, watch me name name, watch me with 1698 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 1: with two whips, whip whip, watch me name. 1699 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 5: That's pretty much it. 1700 01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. 1701 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, I'm just going down my 1702 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 1: mental rollerdecks of you know, a couple of people that 1703 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,640 Speaker 1: I know are capable of that anyway. Andrew Day, you 1704 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,679 Speaker 1: are just you're You're really really awesome. 1705 01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. I love this podcast. 1706 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,519 Speaker 1: Thank you just to like, you know, just all you 1707 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 1: know inside and out, you know what I mean. And 1708 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,800 Speaker 1: I think that you know, we need we need more 1709 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 1: of that. And I and I and I and I pray. 1710 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:11,719 Speaker 5: Yea to yourself. 1711 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 1: I pray that you you you are, you are blessed 1712 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 1: to go in as many spaces as possible to be 1713 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,240 Speaker 1: as infectious as you are. 1714 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1715 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate that your thing is just that it just 1716 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 1: becomes contagious and everybody can be more like you. 1717 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,560 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. And I pray the same for you. 1718 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,560 Speaker 5: Well you've already done it. You're already doing it. 1719 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,200 Speaker 1: You know it's still still more work to do. 1720 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much. 1721 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 1: This is home for you, whatever, whenever, whatever you want 1722 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 1: to do. 1723 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 5: I love the aesthetic specific there. This is. 1724 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:56,719 Speaker 1: Kick you out. You got two jags, ladies and gentlemen, 1725 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 1: And this is the Yrvey Money Podcast at the authority 1726 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 1: on all things R and B. And this has been light, 1727 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 1: This has been loved. 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