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Speaker 1: What's up its way up at Angela Yee, and this

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Speaker 1: is so exciting for me. We have two special guests

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Speaker 2: Talk about the movie Trap.

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Speaker 1: But first, Selika, congratulations to you for everything that you've

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Speaker 1: been doing, going on tour with Giveon and the music

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Speaker 1: and putting out an EPN. Now you have fourteen songs

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Speaker 1: that are about to come out August second with this movie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So how do you feel.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I just, you know, I just finished the

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Speaker 4: album a couple of days ago, when I'm super in

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Speaker 4: but just really grateful and excited.

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Speaker 3: And I loved writing these songs.

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Speaker 2: It was so fun, all right.

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Speaker 1: And I know you must be proud as a dad

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Speaker 1: to see what your daughter has accomplished.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I mean our house is kind of a little different

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Speaker 5: in that way. It's kind of you know, it's always

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Speaker 5: grown up in the arts. That's the culture in there

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Speaker 5: and the conversations about the arts. So it isn't really

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Speaker 5: about any kind of destination or accomplishment in and of itself,

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Speaker 5: but their relationship to the particular from if you're a

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Speaker 5: is that if you choose that that it's it's your

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Speaker 5: integrity to the art form is the thing that hopefully

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Speaker 5: they've been inculcated with since they've been for rather than

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Speaker 5: validation from being seen or money or fame or any

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Speaker 5: of those things which are that's nothing to do.

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Speaker 1: With it, right, I mean, listen to be honest, seeing

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Speaker 1: how you've come up and the things that you've done,

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Speaker 1: just the path that you've been on to get to

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Speaker 1: where you are because both of your parents were doctors.

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Speaker 2: Right, correct, So this is a completely different path.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know that for you to have done that,

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Speaker 1: so that actually allowed for your children to decide what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know they came if you imagine,

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Speaker 5: as as folly, right, it's not. That's not real. You're

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Speaker 5: But conveying that now to this generation of the work

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Speaker 1: And both of you actually went and did you know,

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Speaker 1: went to school because sometimes people go off and like okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to do this, but you both actually went

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Speaker 1: to Selika, You went to Brown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to Brown.

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Speaker 2: That's where my brother went.

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Speaker 5: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to Wesleyan so that's not that far.

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Speaker 1: Actually I went to wesley because I was taking screenwriting

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Speaker 1: and doing all the oh way, yeah, which was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: And here I am doing radio now. So you never

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Speaker 5: Up they have a good film program they do.

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Speaker 1: And so I did photography, I did screenwriting, writing, I

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Speaker 2: All of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think though writing helps you with anything

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Speaker 1: Even being able to write an email, you know, to

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Speaker 2: Those that's an important skill.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like with Ai, maybe now no one

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Speaker 2: You know. But let's talk.

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Speaker 1: About the movie chat because this sounds like an exciting

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Speaker 2: All age groups.

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Speaker 1: You know, horror movie is also my favorite genre, and

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Speaker 4: I mean Sounds of the Lambs when I was a

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Speaker 2: Okay, me too, that was like.

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Speaker 3: On it just like so traumatizing. It's scary and terrible.

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Speaker 5: Exis for me is my favorite?

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Speaker 1: I read the book too, and the book is so graphic.

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Speaker 2: Every time I see m Night Shyamalan on a movie,

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Speaker 5: Definitely, Yeah, we definitely got to go. That was the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're seeing kind of, you know, the

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Speaker 4: And you know, I was young, but I feel like

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Speaker 4: He was like, Okay, this is like what film is

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Speaker 5: There was a moment that I didn't react well yeah,

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Speaker 5: Is that what it is? Or you want to be

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Speaker 1: That's perfect and we got to address this. I see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's can't work with Drake.

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Speaker 4: is detailed and thought out, and the images there there's

443
00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 4: kind of not really like questions there. Everything is storyboarded,

444
00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,680
Speaker 4: everything is thought out, and so the scenes, I knew

445
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,640
Speaker 4: exactly how many songs and what scenes they were over

446
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,080
Speaker 4: and what's happening during those scenes, and so kind of

447
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,960
Speaker 4: orchestrating and producing the songs to fit what those were.

448
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 1: How is it working together? And I know your sister,

449
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 1: your younger sister also directs. And I saw that movie too,

450
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,359
Speaker 1: by the way I tells you where I watched all

451
00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,600
Speaker 1: of them, the Watchers. I watched that as well, Watchers.

452
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,640
Speaker 1: But how is it for you guys? Like working together?

453
00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,280
Speaker 1: Is it? Because sometimes working with family can be difficult,

454
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,040
Speaker 1: but then you know, this is the best teacher there is.

455
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was great and I've loved it.

456
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,720
Speaker 4: I loved it for me, Like you know, I'm I'm

457
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,760
Speaker 4: introverted person, so a lot of these things. Putting myself

458
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,520
Speaker 4: out there is a very anxious thing for me. And

459
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,199
Speaker 4: I felt like one having my dad there as a

460
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,119
Speaker 4: protective a person that I felt safe with on set,

461
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 4: which I think a lot of people don't have the opportunity,

462
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,359
Speaker 4: they don't feel safe on st and I got to

463
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 4: feel that, So that was just a beautiful thing. And

464
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 4: then also I had the best mentor in the world.

465
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 4: You know, he has such integrity. Everything that he does

466
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 4: has the highest standards and the most integrity. And so

467
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 4: getting to be in a place like that, I know

468
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 4: he's not gonna let you know, He's not going to

469
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 4: compromise his vision for anything. So I knew, you know,

470
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 4: as long as I can execute what he's telling me

471
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 4: and try to, you know, reach the character that it's

472
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 4: I can kind of let go because I can let him,

473
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 4: you know, take all the burden.

474
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 5: I mean, what what I asked you to do is

475
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 5: so incredibly hard to do, you know, honestly, less than

476
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 5: less than two hands I think on the planet could

477
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 5: have done. What if two hands? You know, I said,

478
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 5: I came up with an idea, you need to write

479
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 5: fourteen songs you need to write them, produce them, perform them.

480
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 5: Then you have to act in the movie all of it.

481
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 5: And we're do a concert. So you're gonna prep a

482
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 5: full concert all within this same time period.

483
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Speaker 3: Camp y, Yeah, it was. It was like an art

484
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 3: boot camp.

485
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 5: Who could do that? You know that, you know, and

486
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 5: that's why it was. Yes, And so you know when

487
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 5: you think of like, you know, you know, and I

488
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 5: do think they're you know, like you know, I love

489
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 5: Billy and you know and Phineas and what they do,

490
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 5: and you know, they my mind goes to that where

491
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 5: people that can come and write and go, hey, just

492
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 5: get inspired by what I'm saying. Now write fourteen of those, now,

493
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 5: prep them, now shoot those, now, now be in the movie.

494
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 5: It's it's it's in the extreme like she's she would

495
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 5: be you know, rehearsing or shooting and then come back

496
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 5: to her hotel room and record a song in the

497
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 5: hotel in the in the closet, like you know, write

498
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 5: and then you know, it's like it's that is that demanding,

499
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 5: that fast that we have to to to deliver all

500
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 5: this so and and she she just came from the

501
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 5: right place and not didn't buckle. I mean, it would

502
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 5: have been appropriate to buckle under those under that pressure.

503
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 5: And even Josh Josh Shartner, who's the lead of the movie,

504
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 5: when the concert finished, when we finished the you know,

505
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 5: the movie the concert, he was like, whoa, that was insane.

506
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 5: What's Selika sleeping man?

507
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: And I say, you leaving some Easter egg clues in

508
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: the movie on your Instagram? So you know, I'm excited.

509
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to be right there. I cannot wait to

510
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: see it. Everybody's like, did you get a screen? I'm like,

511
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: not for this one. You know, they're not giving an

512
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: out to people to be able to watch. He talked

513
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 1: about feeling safe with your father, and I do want

514
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: to ask you. A lot of your movies are intense, right,

515
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: and there's child actors, like in The Sixth Sense you

516
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 1: back at the cabin. Yeah, so what is it like

517
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: for on set now? Because you also want to make

518
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: sure because I always think about these kids acting in movies.

519
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this traumatizing?

520
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: Like to play these roles after what happens to make

521
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 1: sure that they're like mentally okay.

522
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 5: Well, again, you come from loving the character, so me

523
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 5: and that individual, whether it's a child or an adult

524
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 5: where we're creating and protecting this third thing, this third person.

525
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 5: So when I'm talking to the kid, I'm saying, she

526
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 5: or he doesn't feel that way. What does she feel

527
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 5: at this moment? What? No, she's too smart for that, right,

528
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 5: Why would you what you know, when you did that thing,

529
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 5: you're making her feel ignorant about that, that situation. Hold that,

530
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 5: don't let go of that. And and there's always and

531
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 5: so it's a feeling. The feelings are complex. And I said,

532
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 5: don't try to control it, don't try to come out

533
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: with some kind of thing. And so when I talk

534
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 5: to children always i'm talking from the character. Say she,

535
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 5: and I use the character's name. They know it's right, Riley.

536
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 5: In this case, Riley. Riley feels this Riley Riley Riley.

537
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: You know.

538
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 5: So when Ari the actress, who you know, who's a

539
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 5: little girl, she's thirteen years old, was tired or whatever,

540
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 5: I go, Riley's Riley's not feeling that. That's that's Ari, right,

541
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 5: So so what what is out Riley feeling? And then

542
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 5: we both kind of she comes alive thinking about Riley

543
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 5: and protecting Riley.

544
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 2: You know, all right, that's good.

545
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that because I always am like,

546
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: these kids are amazing, you know, just to see kid,

547
00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean when I tell you.

548
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: So empathetic to which is why you feel so pure.

549
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: What is the first concert you guys have been to together?

550
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 5: WHOA, what was the first one?

551
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 4: Because the big, big one in my mind is Beyonce

552
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: when I was ten.

553
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

554
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 4: I don't know if I don't that's like core memory.

555
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 4: I don't know if that was the first show I

556
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 4: ever saw. We saw a lot of classical, Yeah, classical music,

557
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: you know, my teachers performing.

558
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 5: It might have been.

559
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: It might have been. I think that was maybe like

560
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: the first thing.

561
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, high bar right, yeah.

562
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 4: We went, yeah, the highest just y like, wait till

563
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: you're ten and then we're going to take it to

564
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: the greatest. We went.

565
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 5: I think we went backstage to meet her, right yeah

566
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 5: what yeah?

567
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 4: No, we also that was that was when I was fourteen.

568
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: This is when it really comes in handy to have

569
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: your dad. Yeah, come on, let's go say how to Beyonce?

570
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: It I think I was like actually shaking. I was like,

571
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: she just was so beautiful and tall.

572
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to see this because from the trailer

573
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: I can see that it's visually going to be beautiful,

574
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: but it's also something I feel like that is relatable

575
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: and will maybe make us all scared to go to

576
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: a concert again after this because the whole premise of it.

577
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: But I know there's going to be a twist, So

578
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: that's what I'm excited to see. Because I saw people

579
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: were like, oh, he gave away you know everything, and.

580
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: I can't remember.

581
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: You can't so long since I remember what happened.

582
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: But I appreciate you so much for coming through, And

583
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: I do want to say that right now, it feels

584
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: like we're living in a movie. Yeah, And I always

585
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: feel like real life is like it's scarier than any

586
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: movie could be. Yeah.

587
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I keep saying we our culture has become high school.

588
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 5: Were just more and more. You know. I used to

589
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 5: think just being famous is like being in high school forever,

590
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 5: but then now everything is turning into high school. It's

591
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 5: like the outrageous things that the kids that did outrageous

592
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 5: things and got talked about in high school.

593
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 2: That's now, yeah, except it's like it's doing it.

594
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: Do you get inspired by seeing even though like there's

595
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 1: some crazy things happening, you know, we're coming off of

596
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: like an assassination attempt on the president and all these

597
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, madness things. Does that ever make you feel

598
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: like this is a movie right here? Like how can

599
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: we turn this into? Yeah?

600
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 5: It does, you know, affect the thoughts you know sometimes

601
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 5: you know, like Knock at the Cabin, there's questions of

602
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 5: are we going in the right direction or not right?

603
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 5: That's what That's what the basis of that thing. We

604
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 5: are we worth saving? You know, That's what knocked the

605
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 5: Cabin about. So it does, it does. And I do

606
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 5: feel comfortable going to very dark material like in Trap,

607
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 5: because I feel very optimistic about humanity and life. That's

608
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 5: just who I am. So I feel safe to take

609
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 5: you like you can. Even though I'm taking you to

610
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 5: a dark place, you know that the person taking you

611
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 5: on the journey it has it has a different point

612
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 5: of view about life that I do feel optimistic about things.

613
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 5: And even though as you'll see, you know, when you

614
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 5: watch Trap, you know it has both sides to it.

615
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 5: And I think art really resonates when you get that

616
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 5: balance right of how we yard we all are as

617
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: human beings, we have both things in us at all times.

618
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 5: We have the very worst and the very best, always there.

619
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: And when we feel that, like when I play the

620
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 5: mom that's loving, but she's also selfish and you know that,

621
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 5: then then it rings true. You have to find the

622
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 5: dark balance.

623
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: And Selika, are you going to go on tour maybe

624
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: and really perform this album?

625
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: Because how could you not? I know, it feels like

626
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: the tour is ready to go.

627
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: It's true.

628
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well listen, thank y'all so much for

629
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: coming through.

630
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: I am so excited to see it.

631
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: Y'all know, I am definitely like in the theaters for

632
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: this one.

633
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 5: You're so caught. It's been so lowly talking to you.

634
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: All right.

635
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: Make sure y'all see Chap August second. It's out in

636
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: the soundtrack as well. Yes, so we'll be able to

637
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: hear that too.

638
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: Thank you.

639
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: It's way up up