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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, and welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: the Falcons Final Whistle Podcast. I'm Scott Beart. That's Tory

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Speaker 1: mcalanney already making fun of me. We're thirty seconds in

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Speaker 1: and our guests for today who had I'll just say

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Speaker 1: it he won't a stellar off season program. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: really has gotten off to a great start to this

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Speaker 1: training camp. That's why we wanted to bring cornerback d

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Speaker 1: Alford in here to talk about the last couple of

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Speaker 1: months his training and I mean, it's such a such

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Speaker 1: a great story, right, small college goes up to the CFL,

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Speaker 1: comes down, unheralded, guy, earns a spot and is now

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Speaker 1: right in the mix to be a starter on what

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Speaker 1: is a very good defense bio over so DA. I

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Speaker 1: guess first question is this. We've been hearing lots of

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Speaker 1: high praise from AJ Terrell, from Ryan Nielsen, Richie Grant, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: Bates, all your boys in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you listen to those or how

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Speaker 1: much you hear it, but just just to hear that

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Speaker 1: that kind of positive praise from so many of your peers, like,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean to you? Is that kind of

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Speaker 1: tell you that you're headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: This it does. It means a lot.

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Speaker 4: You know, coming from those type of guys who you know,

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Speaker 4: been in the league a few years and made plays

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Speaker 4: and you know some of the fan favorites. So by

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Speaker 4: you know, getting a compliment from those type of guys,

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Speaker 4: it means a lot. And you know, it just shows

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Speaker 4: that they trusted me. So no matter what I come

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Speaker 4: in on my role, start a second screen, third screen,

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Speaker 4: I know that my brothers, you know, got my back

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Speaker 4: and they trusted me, So that means a lot.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really cool.

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Speaker 5: And I know we've talked to Arthur Smith and Ryan Nilson,

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Speaker 5: new defensive coordinator, quite a bit and they both have

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Speaker 5: said on different accounts that you had a really good

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Speaker 5: spring in OTAs. What was that part of the off

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Speaker 5: season like for you to kind of get in here

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Speaker 5: and get your feet under you kind of coming out

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Speaker 5: of last year and into this year.

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Speaker 4: I mean you could see, like my my off season

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Speaker 4: workout very intense. You know, I train like how I play,

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Speaker 4: so when I do get into a game situation already

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Speaker 4: don't been through it in the off season or like practice.

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Speaker 4: But I mean I just I just wanted to you know,

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Speaker 4: just come in and basically had the same mindset I

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Speaker 4: had last year, you know, trying to make this for

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Speaker 4: the three man roster because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: we are here in count competing for a spot, so

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Speaker 4: no one has a spot, and.

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Speaker 3: That's the mindset that I have.

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Speaker 4: I just got to continue to you know, do what

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Speaker 4: I did last year, to continue to get through how

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Speaker 4: praise it and you know the glory that come with

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Speaker 4: the sport.

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Speaker 1: So that's so interesting because on this list of questions

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Speaker 1: I had, like what's the difference between one camp and

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Speaker 1: the other, because I would have assumed that you enter

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Speaker 1: maybe a lot more comfortable because you proved yourself, you

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Speaker 1: made some big plays, a huge pick right that you've

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Speaker 1: done some things. But it seems like the mentality hasn't changed.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, never.

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Speaker 4: I'm one of them guys like I never get comfortable,

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Speaker 4: you know, just being undrafted. Just always had the unadult mentality.

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Speaker 4: I come from a smaller town, you know, Griffin, Georgia,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of guys don't don't make it out

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Speaker 4: of my small town. So I just want to be

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Speaker 4: that one that, you know, my community, my community, can

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Speaker 4: you know, look up to and you know, just just

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Speaker 4: having that mindset you always you know, they say a

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Speaker 4: chip on your shoulder, that's the mindset that don't have

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Speaker 4: no matter if I'm with the ones, the twos, the

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Speaker 4: threes practice squad, I'm just one of them guys to

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Speaker 4: never get comfortable with my role and I just want

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Speaker 4: to keep on elevating, chasing greatness.

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Speaker 3: As you can say.

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Speaker 5: I'm going off scripts a little bit because I do

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Speaker 5: think that your story overall has been just so inspiring

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Speaker 5: and it's it's pretty fascinating to see if you would

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Speaker 5: be let's say you're talking to d from two years

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Speaker 5: ago or three years ago, what would you say say

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Speaker 5: to that guy who's kind of going through the whole

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Speaker 4: Hey, I mean I say, I'm just glad you didn't

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Speaker 4: give up. You know, it's a tough road speaking it all.

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Speaker 4: Like two or three years ago, man, I were working

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Speaker 4: at FedEx. You know, I was working overnight, you know,

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Speaker 4: to go to you know, a seven thirty workout. Then

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Speaker 4: you got to do the same thing. Gotta hurt and

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Speaker 4: get home, get some resk, go to sleep, wake back

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Speaker 4: up ten pm, leven pm, go back to work. That's

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Speaker 4: that's what I have to do. So just just and

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Speaker 4: I'm blessed, you know, just having to go through that

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Speaker 4: type of stuff and it made me into the play

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Speaker 4: you know today, And but yeah, I just tell you

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Speaker 4: know that, D man.

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Speaker 3: Look, you got a lot of people that look up

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 4: No matter you know, if you would have made it

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Speaker 4: to the NFL or whatever your rite is. Everyone RT

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Speaker 4: is different. Continue to chase greatness and you know, great

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Speaker 4: things that happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think every off season is spent training really

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Speaker 1: hard for the opportunity that you have. You were posting

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Speaker 1: a lot on social media that you were really grinding

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Speaker 1: I think with AJ maybe at a different times this

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Speaker 1: off season to get prepared for this particular opportunity, right,

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Speaker 1: which could be to be the starting slot corner on

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Speaker 1: a very good defense.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: What was that preparation? Like, I'm sure you didn't push

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Speaker 1: yourself any harder, but kind of like give take us

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Speaker 1: through the time when nobody's watching, like what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: How are you getting prime?

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Speaker 4: Lots of lots of late night Yeah, see, uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: just coming into the lead, you know you I'm glad

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Speaker 4: I'm fortunate enough to hell A. J. Terrell's my teammate. Man,

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Speaker 4: he wanted the guys I'll reach out to all the

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Speaker 4: time and just trying to see like the things that

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Speaker 4: he does, and you know, take some stuff from his

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Speaker 4: you know, off season program. Just trying to learn how

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Speaker 4: to take care of my body. And we you know,

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Speaker 4: we had we got the same you know, offseason trainer,

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Speaker 4: Oliver Davis. So when me and him do link up,

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Speaker 4: we work on a lot of things that that that

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Speaker 4: that I feel like I need to work on. I

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Speaker 4: ask him when he watched film on me, like what

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Speaker 4: do I need to work on? Change the direction, a

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Speaker 4: lot of stuff like that. But I know the videos

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Speaker 4: what we actually do. You get what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 4: if I can put a whole video, it's like a.

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Speaker 2: Movie full undocumentary.

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Speaker 4: Work, you know, two days. You know, there's just one session.

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Speaker 4: That's not like with everything that we've done. You know,

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Speaker 4: they're just the field work part of it. Then we

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Speaker 4: gotta lift weights, we gotta go to the track and

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Speaker 4: do a lot of stuff to work on speed. Yes,

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Speaker 4: a lot of stuff, but we know you know, if

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Speaker 4: you fect this type of stuff, it'll be easy, you know,

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Speaker 4: come around, you know, fall camp and all that type

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Speaker 2: So I love it.

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Speaker 5: And you talk about a J. Trell and your relationship

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Speaker 5: with him. But I think one of the most fascinating

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Speaker 5: things about this team and where it is now is

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Speaker 5: this secondary that you're a part of with AJ Trell

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Speaker 5: and Jeffakuda and Richie Grant and Jesse Bates. I mean,

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Speaker 5: what can you say about the group that you guys

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Speaker 2: Because to me, I feel you guys when y'all are.

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Speaker 5: Out on the field, even though we're only four or

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Speaker 4: I mean, I want to say, first off, you know,

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Speaker 4: the relationship that we end up building, you know, just

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Speaker 4: off season, it's special.

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Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. So it's like you know

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Speaker 4: There don't want to make a mistake or just in

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Speaker 4: you don't want to let your brother down and you

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Speaker 4: know that it means a lot to them. So just

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Speaker 4: the communication on end off the field. You know, this

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Speaker 4: things like that catch up and when you know, the

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Speaker 4: closer you get, man, it shows on the field. You

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Speaker 4: don't want to let your teammate down, you know, your brother.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a special group. It's a lot of talent. Man,

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of time.

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Speaker 2: Y'all are fun to watch. Y'all really are. I mean

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Speaker 2: I've been my hands on the ball constant all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess, uh, one last kind of serious

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Speaker 1: But you've probably had a lot of good coaching and

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Speaker 1: your you know, lead up to this point. But you

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Speaker 1: got Jerry Gray who's been around the block like forty

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Speaker 2: He's seen it all.

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Speaker 1: And then Steve Jackson who's done it. But both those

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Speaker 1: everything is a coachable moment. What's it been like working

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: Those two guys are great coach is man. You know,

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Speaker 4: they both was able you know, to play in the

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Speaker 4: see a lot of stuff you know that sometimes we

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Speaker 4: they make a lot of things you know easy, you

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Speaker 4: know the hard things, you know, whether IVI it's like

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Speaker 4: personnel group is or you know, route recognitioning. Those two

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Speaker 5: I think it's really interesting too because we were talking

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Speaker 5: tell a difference in this secondary even with like amongst

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Speaker 5: other position groups. I think he was alluding to about

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Speaker 5: how you guys have such you have honed in so

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Speaker 5: much on the fundamentals and techniques that y'all are working through,

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Speaker 5: and he said that that's a big part of what

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Speaker 5: Jerry Gray and Steve Jackson do as coaches. Do you

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Speaker 5: kind of feel that even when you're out on the

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Speaker 5: field and I know y'all aren't going live, but is

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Speaker 5: that something where it's like y'all fall back on these

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Speaker 5: fundamentals and these techniques that they're teaching in the classroom.

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Speaker 4: Of course, of course, just like individual drills you know,

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Speaker 4: we're doing we're working on techniques.

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Speaker 3: We're working on how to get your hands on the receiver.

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Speaker 4: We're working on how to stay low on your pedal,

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Speaker 4: come out to break, you know, and those type of

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Speaker 4: things that you need when you when you're actually live.

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Speaker 4: So and you go in live peers and you use

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Speaker 1: Know, grinder a grinding.

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Speaker 2: We're all grinning through it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, de Alford, thank you so much for the time.

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Speaker 1: I definitely appreciate it. But stay tuned because after the break,

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, thank you, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the first edition of the Training Camp

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle podcast. Thank you so much to d

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Speaker 5: He was great, right honestly, we were talking and that

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Speaker 1: Yes, stay tuned, stay tuned for that. But before we

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Speaker 5: fun to watch. And it kind of goes back to

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Speaker 5: even the scouting process when I was doing like the

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Speaker 5: Finding Falcons series on the rookies and how the Falcons

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Speaker 5: you know, decided on this draft class. Each individual guy,

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Speaker 5: and every person I talked to you for the Bajon

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Speaker 5: story said the same thing. It's like, when you saw

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Speaker 5: him live, it changed the game for you. And I

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Speaker 5: felt that way when they were talking two years ago

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Speaker 5: about Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 2: It's like, when you see.

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Speaker 5: Him live, you understand why he is where he is

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Speaker 5: and why he is what he is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's interesting. You look at Mac

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Speaker 1: Hollins is such He's a big dude who plays big.

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Speaker 1: Scottie Miller is a fast guy who plays fast, and

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Speaker 1: just say that. Look, there are big dudes who won't

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Speaker 1: get physical. They're like there are small dudes who will

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Speaker 1: go up and get the ball. I think that just

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Speaker 1: the volume of options that does with him, I think

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Speaker 1: is important. Just one other thing I want to say

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Speaker 1: about the skill players, is it look, Kyle Pitts didn't

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Speaker 1: have a chance to work with Desmond Ruder very much

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Speaker 1: last year. He always worked with the first team, which

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Speaker 1: was Marcus Mariota. By the time des was the first

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Speaker 1: team guy, Pitts was hurt. Kyle did talk about you

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Speaker 1: can't accelerate the learning curve there, but the second Kyle

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Speaker 1: was able to run routes he was running routes with

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Speaker 1: Desmond in the offseason, and I think that's important. Anytime

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Speaker 1: you can play a little bit of catch up, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: And then look, they have six more weeks still the

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Speaker 1: first game. I think that's enough time to get those

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Speaker 1: two on the same page and to get Kyle kind

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Speaker 1: of looking like Kyle can. That's gonna take time, though,

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Speaker 1: it just will.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think there's any reason at all

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Speaker 5: to rush anything.

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Speaker 1: No Pits way.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I want is to rush him like that.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that. I don't need to see Kyle Pits

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Speaker 2: in the preseason at all. I don't care to.

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Speaker 5: Well, I care, but I don't want. I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: That's the difference. I don't want to see him in

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Speaker 5: the preseason. But because he's gonna get to where he

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Speaker 5: needs to be, I really don't have a doubt that

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Speaker 5: he's not going to. So don't don't throw him out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that Week one standouts who you got,

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Speaker 1: all right?

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Speaker 5: So I have staying in the theme of the secondary,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Clark Phillips, the third interesting, the

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Speaker 5: Falcons fourth round pick in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.

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Speaker 5: I have been very impressed with him through four days.

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Speaker 5: He is somebody who is I'm not saying this to

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Speaker 5: you know, drive home the point or whatever.

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Speaker 2: He's small.

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Speaker 5: He's a small guy, has a small frame, but he plays.

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Speaker 5: And this is something again that went back to what

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Speaker 5: scouts were saying. He plays bigger than his size. He

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Speaker 5: plays bigger than his frame. We are seeing that day

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Speaker 5: in and day out.

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Speaker 2: He made a.

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Speaker 5: Really amazing play in one on one coverage against Drake

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Speaker 5: London on the third day of camp. He has had

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Speaker 5: I think he had three or four PBUs where he

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Speaker 5: was in great Pozzi in on the.

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Speaker 2: Fourth day of camp. Like, he just keeps showing up

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 5: I think he had an interception when in front of

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Speaker 5: fans on Saturday, like all of the all, he just

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Speaker 5: keeps popping up for me. And I think it's really

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Speaker 5: great because something that I believe it was Kyle Smith,

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Speaker 5: not Kyle Pitts, Kyle Smith, right, I believe he said

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Speaker 5: in his press conference after the draft, he said something

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Speaker 5: along the lines of is like when you have someone

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Speaker 5: who doesn't reach the measurables, they have to account for

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Speaker 5: it in other ways. The way that the grit and

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Speaker 5: just the understanding of where the ball is in flight.

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Speaker 5: For Clark Phillips, I think is what counteracts that because

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Speaker 5: he's able to get himself into position, and that's something

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Speaker 5: that even though we're not going one hundred and ten

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Speaker 5: percent right now, I feel like you can see that

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Speaker 5: from him. And so he's somebody that I'm just really

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Speaker 5: intrigued by, someone who kind of flew under the radar

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Speaker 5: for me throughout you know, OTAs and rookie mini camp,

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Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. And I've been really impressed

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Speaker 5: by what I've seen from him, even you know, one weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Arthur Smith said, look, he's made some splash

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Speaker 1: plays and he's done really well. There are some things

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Speaker 1: to clean up, but he's a rookie, of course, and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna continue to kind of chip away at that

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Speaker 1: and kind of hone in on everything that that he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Who's who's your standout player.

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Speaker 1: Of the Yeah, I was just thinking about that. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say Matt Collins, But the more that I

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Speaker 1: think about it, the more I keep I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say Jeff Okuda too, because he's been so good. But

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Speaker 1: if we're just talking about week one standouts. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gotta be Jalen Hawkins, right, I mean he's got we have.

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Speaker 2: A theme we're saying in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the secondary they've been doing, they've been doing

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Speaker 1: really well. They're they're getting their hands on the ball,

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Speaker 1: they're playing aggressive, it's tight coverage. But Jalen is a

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Speaker 1: guy I don't I don't think he thinks about things

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Speaker 1: in terms of like I'm the one guy or I'm

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Speaker 1: the two guy. I think he just goes out there

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Speaker 1: each time and tries to make a play. He's made

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Speaker 1: a couple of really good plays early on a positive

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Speaker 1: first impression. He's working with the second unit with Mike Abernathy.

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Speaker 1: But who cares. I don't think he cares. I think

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Speaker 1: he's just going out there and trying to make place

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Speaker 1: no matter what team that he's on. So I think

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Speaker 1: he's been impressive. Now, Tori's we wrap this thing up.

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Speaker 1: We're talking on a Saturday. There's an off day for

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Speaker 1: the players on Sunday. On Monday, the pads go on.

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Speaker 1: M'd be my favorite of the year. What should fans

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Speaker 1: look for on that particular day, whether you're here, whether

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Speaker 1: you're kind of reading and watching videos like what should

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Speaker 1: fans look.

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Speaker 5: For for that the intensity at the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 5: is going to go up and that should excite everyone

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Speaker 5: because during OTAs, and I remember this vividly, Arthur Smith

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Speaker 5: said that he couldn't wait for training camp when pads

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Speaker 5: go on, specifically because he said, it's going to feel

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Speaker 5: like the Dwayne Ledford versus Ryan Nielsen extravaganza because the.

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Speaker 1: Line defensive longtime defensive line coach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that they're going to be going at it. Of

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Speaker 5: course within reason. No one's trying to get hurt. But

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Speaker 5: like I truly BELI believe that those guys are ready

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Speaker 5: to go, and they've been held back a little bit

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Speaker 5: because no pads are on, you can't really do that much.

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Speaker 5: But when once the pads goes on go on, it's

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Speaker 5: the physicality can go up a little bit. And that's

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Speaker 5: what's going to be the marker of this line of

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Speaker 5: scrimmage is how physical the offensive line and defensive line

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Speaker 5: can be in their own separate ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gonna be a good teaching tape for

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Speaker 1: them because they haven't had pads on since the last

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Speaker 1: game of the regular season. For most these guys are

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Speaker 1: whenever their last game was for their respective teams. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go a little bit outside the box, and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't My idea, is Budgetpree's idea, So I'm giving full

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Speaker 1: credit Bud. This is He says, look like they're down

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Speaker 1: there banging and they learn so much. Because the physicality

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Speaker 1: gets ramped up, it's going to probably gonna be hot

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Speaker 1: out there. He brought up the receivers right that, right

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Speaker 1: now they can go out and go across the middle

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Speaker 1: and everything is okay. You go out and they just

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Speaker 1: get and they get tapped. Are those guy's gonna want

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Speaker 1: to do it? When Jesse Bates has shoulder pads on

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Speaker 1: and he's coming at you one hundred miles an hour. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jesse's not gonna lay anybody out. But there is an

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Speaker 1: element of physicality that's gonna bleed in from the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage into the pattern that I think is gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how these receivers respond to it.

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Speaker 1: Because as we've seen early on the secondary which I

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Speaker 1: keep talking about, but the secondary is playing aggressive, They're

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Speaker 1: going after the ball. How will the receivers react, Will

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Speaker 1: they counter and be aggressive and go after it? I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting to see how that part

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Speaker 1: of it plays.

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Speaker 5: It's funny because I joked in one of my practice reports,

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Speaker 5: I think it was day two and they were doing

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Speaker 5: some seven on seven stuff and Desmond kind of tossed

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Speaker 5: it to Bejon down the sideline and he kind of

601
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Speaker 5: like did his little juky elusive move that he does

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Speaker 5: that I'm sure everybody has seen at this point on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: But he does that, and he does it to Jesse,

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Speaker 5: and Jesse was just going up to like tap him.

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Speaker 5: And I even said, and he does the move and

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Speaker 5: Jesse like run. It looked like he juked him out.

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Speaker 5: But no one's going one hundred and ten percent, And

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Speaker 5: I said, I wrote in that PCT refer I was like,

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Speaker 5: that was a fun little moment. It was cool to

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Speaker 5: see Bejon do that live. But when the pads go on,

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be the thud.

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Speaker 2: There there will be a thud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm always really looking forward to this, and

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, after the pads come on, then

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Speaker 1: we continue to ramp up we head towards joint practices,

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Speaker 1: just so the fans know, right, Falcons Final Whistle is

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Speaker 1: generally kind of an off season analysis podcast. In season,

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Speaker 1: it's all about postgame analysis. This is a new addition

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Speaker 1: to the series, right and and we're gonna come to

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Speaker 1: you at several points during training camp and kind of

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Speaker 1: give updates at different tent pole moments. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: covering joint practices against the Dolphins and a couple different

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