1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast is as consistent as a 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: bread far retire. Welcome back to another edition of the 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Round the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansa's name, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: joined by room filled with heroes, Chris Wesley, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosental. What up boys, Hey Dan? Happy Friday. 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: We've reached the end of week one of free agency. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: How's everybody feeling about that? Almost? You know, Monday to Friday, 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Saturday counts and we'll be here. I'm feeling it. You 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: don't really make your money on the first day of 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: free agency. Everyone's excited. It's wildly busy. It's more Thursday 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: at five o'clock and you've been pounding out posts for 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: eight seventy two hours. You don't know what's happened. And 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: now you've got to make something up about Wesley Wood. 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: You're to the Titans and it's got to be sharp. 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: So that's when we make our money. I thought that 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: you meant that GM's actually start to it cares about. Yeah, 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: well they have fun this week. I feel like I 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: should be paying the NFL to be doing this, alright. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: I like that. I agree. This is Mark actually had 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: a similar comment that basically this is this is more 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: fun because we're not trying to make news out of nothing. 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: We're analyzed, we're busy all day. This is it's gonna 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: be boring the next couple of months. And also with 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: the it's kind of like a fantasy draft. For Yeah, 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: those are the big names that come off the market 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: in the first couple of days, just like the first 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: couple of rounds. But now this is where the gms 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: make their run. This is where they find those gems. 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: West you're talking about the guys that get you get 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: cheap and then they get the big contract next year. 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys are still out there way 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: to be brought in to make a big impact. We 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: should keep in mind what Dave Gettlman did last year. 34 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: He got five at least five quality snaps out of 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: five or six players that weren't signed until way later 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: in free agency. By this time last year, none of 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: those guys have been signed. And we had we had 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: at the top one oh one at first, and now 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: it's down below fifty of those guys are available. The 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: top fifteen was wiped away in the first forty eight 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: hours or so. It's the best available free agents. Chris 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: Westling wrote it up on Thursday and it's just getting 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: diminished by the day. But it's a new, fresh analysis. Peace, 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: go check it out. I view that to mean that 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: the league's decision makers don't agree with roughly half of 46 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: your list. We're still out there. Actually they agreed with 47 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot more this year. I think Westling being involved helped. 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying the top Dan and I contributing to 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: that a year ago. That's how That's how I take that. 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: Did you can wait? I was around last year. No, 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: I just did it myself a year ago, so you know, 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: I was trying to give west some credit. Thank you 53 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: so a lot to get to. First, West, I could 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: smell your cologne. It's it's not sport, it's old old 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: spice sport. Yes, it's Deodoro. I don't have clone. Someone 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: smells great in this room. I just got here. Maybe 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: I'll put half the stick on. Maybe over the have 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: old spice swagger. Gregg has a head cold and has 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: like ben gay spread throughout his body and cecil. You 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: are kind of a rugged mountain. Then you you use 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: your natural scent societies, liquids and gaels onto my body 62 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: gold standard. What do you use for your anti person. 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: I've been on the right guard rotation lately. Spray, I'm 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: usually no, no, no, of course not now. It never 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: goes spread. That was that was in the years off 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: your life. I think, UM, alright, big show, before we 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: get into it. Two things we need UM gold Standard 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: behind the glass by the way, how are you great? 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: We need more UM intros at the beginning of the show. 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I know we've been doing some repeats lately with Matt 71 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: money Smith, who handles that so kindly. We don't pay 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: the man a dime and he's a professional radio guy 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: that I feel a little weird about that. That's an 74 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: aside right now because I feel like his agent. Eventually 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna come to us, but don't pay him. That's 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: pro bono work. So we we typically after a rotate, 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: we write about fifteen or twenty of them. We deliver 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: them to the gold Standard. He sends them to Money 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Money records him. We need some help with this because 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: we're very busy free agency, So we're thinking, why don't 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: we throw it to the listeners and gold Standard let 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: me know if this is a good idea. Throw it 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: to the listeners and let them come up with money tags, 84 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: and they send it on Twitter to a t L 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: NFL underscore, a t L hashtag money tags. Now, just 86 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: in case, I'm sure maybe there's someone new to the show. 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: This is how it sounds. The Around the League podcast 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: always goes for two. Here's another example. The Around the 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: League podcast openly fears Papa John. So send in, getting 90 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: Murphy half on with it, and if it's funny and Greg, 91 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: you will be the ultimate judge of this is the boss. 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: You will decide if it's funny enough, it will become 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: one of our intros. The intro is my favorite part 94 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: of the show. I'm not joking. I just like I've 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: listened to other podcasts minute long intros forget it. I'm 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: glad Greg is the boss that gets to decide if 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: this is funnier. I was only saying that this will 98 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: be a group people deciding this, and you know, maybe 99 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to trust their Greg will be the humor. 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: If there's a deadlock somehow, Greg, you decided, all right. 101 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what Wesley is getting at here. I 102 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: don't either. I have Greg's ability to under the radar 103 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: science heat, and now I have faith in Greg's ability 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: to judge humor, but I think a lack of faith 105 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: in someone else's ability to do so. It's interesting, alright, gentlemen, 106 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: So yes, help us out with that. Listeners, you always 107 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: do help us out with the show, and this would 108 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: be a great help because I don't know, you know, 109 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Cessler hasn't and really bringing the heat with those, so 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: we need someone else to step in. I don't know 111 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: if I've ever contributed any al right, So why don't 112 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: we get into the news, right, gentlemen, because um, we'll 113 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: be a little different usually do a little news up top. 114 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: We have so much news we gotta just get rolling 115 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: here and the biggest news or I'm gonna say the 116 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: biggest news of the week, because I still believe this 117 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: guy is, you know, possibly the best quarterback in the league. 118 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: Darrell Rivas lands with the Patriots. We all speculated about 119 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: this on Wednesday Wednesday's podcast. He signs what's typical basically 120 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: at one year, twelve million dollar deal, but there is 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: a second year option, but he's on the Patriots next year. 122 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: The arms race between the Patriots and the Broncos is real, gentlemen. 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: I just feel bad for the Patriots that this is 124 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: gonna force Tom Brady onto the Browns roster. If you 125 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: listen to Wednesday show, Mark hinted at a mega real quick. 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: I think what they did. We have to get another 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: face of the franchise for the cover of the game 128 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: day programs. The little pocket schedules that men carry around 129 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: in their wallets. You got rivas to replace number twelve 130 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: old number twelve. But what do we think about this, Gregg, 131 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: you're a Patriots fan. It reminds me of when they 132 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: brought in Randy Moss, who's one of the smartest players. 133 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick says he's ever coached kind of another coach 134 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: on the field. That wide receiver. Rivus is that kind 135 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: of cerebral cornerback. I don't know if they've ever quite 136 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: had a guy like this, but he's certainly the best 137 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: cornerback there since Ty Law and as Sante Samuel even better. 138 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: I think he's still got some juice. I said this 139 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: before I knew he was on the team, that he 140 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: could be the best cornerback in the league. It's perfect 141 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: for their their system. I think it just feels like 142 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: New England four seas of time. When they're gonna deal 143 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: with Denver again in the playoffs potentially, and they've got 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: to find a way if Denver looks the same way 145 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: they did last season to shut that offense down. Rivus 146 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: not a bad option, obviously. How many times can we 147 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: say that the Patriots did not set the trend? They 148 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: copied off another team. What were they copying here? I think, uh, 149 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: they're obviously on Brandon Browner's trail. They signed Darrell Rivas. 150 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Darrell Revas the best press man corner of the past decade, 151 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: Brandon brown or the prototypical physical press man corner. They're 152 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: copying off the Seahawks. What's nothing wrong, There's nothing wrong 153 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: with it. But it just strikes me that Bill Belichick 154 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: is usually the guy who comes up with the multiple 155 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: tight ends and all these other schemes that he's been 156 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: He's been coaching up press cornerback since the mid eighties Giants. 157 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: That's been hit what he wanted touche. He hasn't found 158 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: many lately. That hasn't worked too well to me. This 159 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: is the ultimate one year contract player for the ultimate 160 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of week to week This year is all that 161 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: matters team in the ultimate like one year league. I 162 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: think it's perfect that he's there for one year and 163 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: then they'll see if he's really worth being the best 164 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: paid cornerback in the league. It makes it makes a 165 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: lot of sense for them, And yeah, they need we 166 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: talked about a Wednesday. They need to be looking at 167 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady the same way John Elway looks at Peyton Manning. 168 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: This is the window is getting smaller and smaller the opening, 169 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: and you gotta take advantages. Now you have one of 170 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: the best defensive players in the league anchoring your secondary. 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: It was no brand in the NFC you had last season, 172 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: especially Seattle and San Francisco going back to back to 173 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: back to back with little moves trying to counter each other. 174 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: I feel like Denver in New England has shifted into 175 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: that mode and sort of almost overtaken those two in 176 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: that way. New England has only made one move, so 177 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: it's about as big a move as you can make. Though. 178 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Is there anybody in this room who doesn't believe that, now, 179 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: a year removed from surgery, Revis is gonna come back 180 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: and and have a dominant season and announce his presence. 181 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I like it. I think there's no question he had 182 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: a great season last year. By the way that I'm 183 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: not sure how great last season was but for a 184 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: guy who look at RG three coming off surgery, Revis, 185 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: I thought he was. I would have taken move for 186 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: anyone on most teams. Yeah, and rich to Meni of 187 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: the Daily News, because I tracked his or ESPN, I 188 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: tracked this very closely for the Jets because they were 189 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: in the mix obviously at some point a little bit 190 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: at least, and one scout had told Samini that Reeva's 191 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: actually looked human last year, which was his quote. But 192 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, the question now becomes is he two years 193 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: removed Rivus again or is he not the same guy. 194 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: There's still a little bit of question whether he's will 195 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: ever be the guy was before he hurt the knee. 196 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: The Jets thing is interesting that Gary Myers in the 197 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: Daily News had a long story how revs His top 198 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: priority when he got to the free agent market was 199 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: he wanted to return to the Jets and Rex Ryan 200 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: of course wanted Revas back, but ownership and general manager 201 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: John Edzic did not want Revs. And I just find 202 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: it interesting this is getting out into the press and 203 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: it just makes me think how this Rex Ryan, just 204 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: like Revis, is very year to year and there's still 205 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: issues there. It might not be all that machiavellion. It 206 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: might just be Rex's miffed that he wanted revers so 207 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: he let it like, if I want something that bad 208 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: and I know I'm right, i'd be a little right. 209 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: I I hear you. But if you're Woody Johnson and 210 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: John Ezick reading a big article in the New York 211 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: Daily News, are you really fired up your coaches getting 212 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: that out there? If you're Rex Ryan, do you really 213 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: care when you knew you were right? That's fair? Alright? 214 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: Moving forward? Steve Smith, the now former Carolina Panthers wide receiver, 215 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: was officially released on Thursday. Uh, he's visiting the Ravens 216 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: on Friday. I believe he has other visits lined up 217 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: for the upcoming days. What are your guys takes on this? 218 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: And but actually, before we do that, I just want 219 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: to read a quote from Steve Smith, who was kind 220 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: of like an angry ex girlfriend right now. He was 221 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: asked on a radio station this before he he was 222 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: even officially cut, um, what would happen if he went 223 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: to Carolina to play? And his quote is if that 224 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: happens to run through Bank of America Stadium, that's where 225 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: the Panthers play. I know all the stadiums now I've 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: I've studied them. Put your goggles on because there's going 227 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: to be blood and guts everywhere. Steve Smith quote machine, 228 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: put your goggles on. Is the new ice up Son? 229 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about Baltimore is wanting to get 230 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: back to an offense that had an ang Kwon Bolden 231 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: type compliment to Tori Smith and they're not the same player, 232 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: but they had nothing on a side of Tory Smith 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: last year on the wide receiver spot in the better 234 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: fit though, in my mind, is New Orleans mm hmm. 235 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: Then you're in the division and you can play Carolina twice. 236 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: You can go back to that stadium, whatever it's named, 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: and drop a hammer Bank of America. I'd be surprised. 238 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be a raven by the time people 239 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: hear us. That's how these podcasts are going lately. He's 240 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: perfect chain mover. That's what they need. I put zero 241 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: stock in the notion that Steve Smiths can be playing 242 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: with a chip on his shoulder because he's played a 243 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: with a chip on his shoulder for thirteen years. How 244 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: much bigger can it get before it drives him into 245 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: the soil. No one's played with a bigger chip on 246 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: their shoulder their entire career than Steve Smith. But I 247 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: do believe they're going to a team with a quarterback 248 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: who's a very good passer will help his career because 249 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Cam cam New Let's let's face it, he is not 250 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: one of the league's best passers. He's a good quarterback, 251 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: but passing is not his forte. Is Joe Flacco one 252 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: of the best. I think, uh, if you give him weapons? Yeah, 253 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: I think in January two thirteen through February second two 254 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: he was like one of the best. Remember that that 255 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: was weird um question if he did sign with the Ravens. 256 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: I'll at random, Mark Sessler, what are Steve Smith's stats 257 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: over sixteen games? If you signed with the Ravens plays 258 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: in five games? No, if he starts sixteen games, he won't. Wow, 259 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: So it's over for Steve Smith. He suffers in an 260 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: injury about six weeks and he plays starts five let 261 00:13:53,160 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: a season, Mark, You're out your negative juju West sixteen games, 262 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Steve Smith fifty eight catches, seven hundred seventy yard five 263 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: touchdowns on Baltimore team like that? Yeah, that's perfect alright, 264 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: you're off by eleven games West. But other than that, 265 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: uh an end of the line, Derek Mason, um, moving, 266 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: moving on, Roger Saffold. You know, tough stuff going on 267 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: in Oakland right now. In fact that I just checked 268 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: the NFL dot com home page and it's pretty grim. 269 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: The landing page of NFL dot com, huge headline bungling 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: free agency with a picture of a beleaguer looking Reggie 271 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Mackenzie and Mark Cartoon. I am, it's very sad. And 272 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: then Judy Pattista wrote a column about how the Raiders 273 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: have struggled. Roger Saffold might be the the image of 274 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: that struggle. He failed the Raiders physical under mysterious circumstances 275 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: after signing a big deal to be a tackle um 276 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: and then returned to the Rams later that night on 277 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: a five year contract. Um. So what that is the 278 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: weirdest story of the week, right, Yes, news of the weird. 279 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to kick Reggie Mackenzie because he's already down. 280 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's no fun anymore. But maybe down because 281 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: you've lashed him in articles maybe seven or eight times 282 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: in the last seventy two hours. But I think It 283 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: strikes me when I read the St. Louis Post dis 284 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: Patrick report they have flown Saffold's parents out to watch 285 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: the signing. Saffold told his agent the doctor told me 286 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: during my physical, you're cleared. And then they go back 287 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: on it and it from Mike Silver or NFL media 288 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: columnist Mark Davis put the kibosh on it. Well, that's 289 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: why I asked Greg yesterday, why isn't the league looking 290 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: into something like that? That's for the or at least 291 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: the Play Years Association. It seems like such a yank 292 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: around to Stathold to bring him in his family up. 293 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: But you felt, Gregg that because the RAMS thing happened 294 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: so lickety split after the Raiders thing fell apart, then 295 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: I think if he had ended up having to settle 296 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: for some two years, six million dollar contract three weeks 297 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,479 Speaker 1: from now, maybe that would be something that was investigated 298 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: by the NFL p A. But he had a five 299 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: year contract worth a lot of money from the RAMS 300 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: waiting for him. So who's gonna make a big stink 301 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: about it? Now? That money that he's getting from RAMS, 302 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: it's not nearly as much money as the Raiders. So 303 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: it did end up costing Saffold. I'm sure it was 304 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: a brutal moment for him, but he landed on his 305 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: feet pretty well. It just makes the Raiders look so bad. 306 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: One of Silver's high place sources said he thought it 307 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: was the worst day of his entire career in football. 308 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: That's how ashamed he essentially was at what happened. I 309 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: can't wait till the book or the novella or the 310 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: leaflet of this experience produced in a bookstore and it 311 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: tells us finally that like a holographic ben Kenobi like 312 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: image of Al Davis appeared and like shut this thing down. Well, 313 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing. It might have saved the Raiders though, 314 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: as crazy as it is, and I hate to think 315 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: that Mark Davis read a lot of negative articles about 316 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: how bad this signing was and that was a factor 317 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: in it. Shadowy league figure slipping into the room. Yeah, 318 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: I set up now. But if that is what happened, 319 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: and the end result is they did not give Roger Saffold, 320 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: a guy we were killing who's had eight different surgeries 321 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: and not a particularly great career, a monster contract, if 322 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: the end result is they wind up with Donald Penn 323 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: or something for less money, yeah, except the flip side 324 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: is it's a complete zero no confidence in your general 325 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: manager in front office that made and it's not a 326 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: good look. And then if you pull back a little further, 327 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: if you're a Raider's fan, you've got to be nervous 328 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: right now about the direction of your franchise. Who's run 329 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: it from the top down now more than ever, because 330 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: there was a time, this is a year ago or 331 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: even a week ago, where it was like Reggie Mackenzie, 332 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy did well in Green Bay. Now 333 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: he's finally going to get a chance to build the roster. 334 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: And this is what happens. What if you're a Raiders 335 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: and what do you have to be excited about last 336 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: year's snaffoo like this happened to one of the best 337 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: executives in the NFL, m Elvis, Elvis Doomerville. Fact, very 338 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: different situations, obviously, though they were both the fault of 339 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: the front office. The Broncos thing different, maybe even more 340 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: embarrassing at the time, because that was just ridiculous. This 341 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: and people kill the Raiders for being an organization that 342 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: didn't move to uh the technology age, But it was 343 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: Denver that sat around waiting for a fact to come 344 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: find a year ago mark. He told me a year 345 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: ago Saturday is the anniversary of Factsgate. Yes it is tomorrow. 346 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: How about that? What are we gonna do to celebrate? Sure, 347 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: write more articles? What do we think about Lamar Woodley 348 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: and Justin Tuck both signing with the Raiders, both around 349 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: five million a year, better contracts than they would have 350 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: gotten elsewhere. It felt a little bit to me like, 351 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: oh man, this saffled thing was bad. We better make 352 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: up for it and close these deals and have something 353 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: positive to show our fans. I think it's just a 354 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: question of which guy's the bigger bust over the contract. 355 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: I think both guys are built in questions about whether 356 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: they're you know, whether it's their effort level or where 357 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: they are at the stage of their career. But I 358 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: don't think there's anyway both these guys end up being 359 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: worth the money. I have a lot of questions about this. 360 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: Greg mentioned that Lamar Houston was told a few weeks 361 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: ago by Dennis Allen that he no longer fits his defense. 362 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: There's hints that they Houston said that publicly. Are they 363 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: are they switching to a three four because that's the 364 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: only way that Lamar Woodley signing makes sense. He was 365 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: drafted to be the prototypical three four outside linebacker. He's 366 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: never played with his hand and there at the NFL level, 367 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how that signing makes sense if they 368 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: if they're not moving to a three four, do a 369 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: little bit of both. Maybe aren't these sightings though? If 370 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots or the forty Niners made him, we'd be like, 371 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: oh Woodley that way about Justin Tuck because you know 372 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: he's all right. But these are these are not this 373 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: is not build for the future moves and this is 374 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: a team that needs to get listen. They had to 375 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: outstanding young players on their roster that they grew, and 376 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: they let them go and they replaced them with aging 377 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: players who are on the debt Well. Woodley's fine, potentially, 378 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: but Tuck is on the downside of his career. You're 379 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: not gonna beat the Broncos for the division title. These 380 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: are savior job. Reggie Mackenzie moves try to get respectability 381 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: for a year because he knows he's gone. If they 382 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: don't have a respectable year, he needs to get seven 383 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: or eight wins to keep his job. The right but 384 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: the goal should not be to win seven or eight games, 385 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: that should be a model of sustainability. But they to 386 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: sign starters. So whether it was Woodley or Tuck or 387 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: guys who are a couple of million dollars less, they 388 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: had to sign starters in free agency. And to their credit, 389 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: that's all they did last year on these one year 390 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: deals with some ridiculous players. And we laughed about the 391 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Rathter going into the year. They coached them up. Okay, 392 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: so to their credit they won four yeas. Alright, alright, 393 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: moving forward, Darren Sprawls, who was rumored to be released 394 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: or reported to be released, then the then the Saints 395 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: found out they had a trade market for the running back, 396 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: which in retrospect, wasn't that surprising. They moved them to 397 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: the Eagles on Thursday in exchange for a fifth round 398 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: draft pick, and then on Friday, Sprawles signs a two 399 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: year extension that takes him through the two thousand sixteen season. 400 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: This is a great move, right, gentlemen. I like the 401 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: trade more than the extension. The trade makes sense. You 402 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: give Chip Kelly another weapon to spread out his offense. 403 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: Uh and really in two minute drills, which are really 404 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: important in the NFL, he'll be on the field. I 405 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: guess my question is is he better than le Jean McCoy. No, 406 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: but then he's going to be his backup. He's not 407 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: a running back anymore. He's just purely a passing down God. 408 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: Lasha McCoy had the second most touches or was on 409 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: the field for the second most snaps in all football 410 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: last year, coming off a monster season. I think it 411 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to have somebody to take 412 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: some of that workload, and he offers you something very 413 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: dangerous in the passing game. And I think Kelly, of 414 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: anyone in the league, is going to find a way 415 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: to use both on the field if he really needs to. 416 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: I think what's frustrating, and Dan and I mentioned this yesterday. 417 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: If you root for a team that is lacking weapons 418 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: the way the Eagles went out and spent a low 419 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: round draft pick to grab this guy, what what team 420 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: would should would decide not to give up a fifth 421 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: round pick for Darren? Sometimes they wonder if teams just 422 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: don't do due diligence with some of these things, like 423 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: who wouldn't give a fifth round pick for down sparrows? 424 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: How many fifth round picks turned into players? That help 425 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: your team instantly unless they're going to Sprowls, which didn't 426 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: sound like there was a lot of communication there. Here's 427 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: your opportunities for what we've gotten this from March through 428 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: the end of September, all thrown office, all football people 429 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: value young players and potential and draft picks more than 430 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: established veterans. Once the games actually start to count, they 431 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: realized the value of established guys and who they can trust. 432 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: Sprawls has a lot more value in October than he 433 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: does in March, and they have to pay him the 434 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: money to He had a good, big contract number, so 435 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of teams were in position 436 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: to pay a reserve five million dollars. I bet the 437 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: extension is going to actually lower that number, uh in 438 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: terms of cap figure. But just imagine Sprawls in one 439 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: spot McCoy and the other the Shawn somewhere else and 440 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. Brian Baldener was in our office yesterday sitting 441 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: ears and he talks about Kelly just wants guys that 442 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: can win one on one matchups and to set up 443 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: as many different one on one matchups. Solow were the field. 444 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: I guess my pose, what coach doesn't want that, and 445 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: why are another team? I mean, I just feel feel 446 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: some frustration. But well, one thing, the Eagles are the 447 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: team in that division getting better while the rest of 448 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: that division is not. And I think, what what coaches 449 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: don't want that? The coaches will winning the NFL are 450 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: the ones who are bold and who think originally they 451 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: got Sprawls with a fifth round pick that they traded, 452 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: that they got in a trade with the Patriots for 453 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: Isaac Soa. That's how you win, baby, And give Howie 454 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Rosmen some credit to Greg Um. I would ask Mark, 455 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: but Mark would say broken fibula. A week two of 456 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: the preseason, I ask you, Darren Sprawls sixteen games, statistics 457 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: with the Eagles, fifty five catches for five yards, receiving 458 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: sixty rushes for whatever, two fifty yards. I feel like 459 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: you're under selling a little bit. Yet, seventy catch with 460 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: the Saints last year. I feel like they're going to 461 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: use him a lot in the past. Forty rushes and 462 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: about forty five receptions for four yards. That's even lower 463 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: than He's clearly on the decline. Do you want to 464 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: give it a shot? I project numbers similar to West, 465 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: but he will have a period of depression in October 466 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: and you'll just feel depressed and low and we're gonna 467 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: see an ugly October from Sprawls. You're weird, dude. I'm 468 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: just telling you what I feel. I respect that. Moving forward, 469 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Eric Decker signs a five year deal with the New 470 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: York Jets on Wednesday. I predicted I believe this would 471 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: happen because the Jets needed to make him move, especially 472 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: after Rivera's signed with the Patriots. They get the deal done, West, 473 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: I knew you were unhappy with the prospect of this happening. Um, 474 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: very unhappy in fact, But ultimately it makes sense for 475 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: the Jets. Uh. The money wasn't too outrageous, of course 476 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: it does. I mean he is a all right, some 477 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: people might not say he is a legit number one, 478 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: but maybe he's a one A or hold on, we 479 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: have a new scale. What thanks to Twitter follower Brad Tucker, 480 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: we have the Eric Decker scale. Okay, I'm listening. Is 481 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: the mark above which you're a number one receiver in 482 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: the NFL? Well that I like that, But the only 483 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: thing is that Jets didn't have anybody near that mark, 484 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: so now they have a guy in that mark. So 485 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: it's a perfect sign for this. It's just a selfish 486 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: sentiment for me. I don't want to see him on 487 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: the Jets wasted. He's gonna be wasted on the Jet. 488 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: You're going back to your fantasy football days. You accuse 489 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: me of that the other day. It has nothing to 490 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: do with that. It has to do with real football, 491 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: and I don't want to see him wasted. Hold on, 492 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: it's a bad spot for him. But the Jets also 493 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: are committed to adding more than a Here's why. I'm 494 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: not ready to kill it entirely yet. If they stand 495 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: pat and just keep him as their number one receiver, disaster. 496 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: But if they go out and add someone like James 497 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Jones and they get a couple, it's a it's a 498 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: receiver rich draft. You gotta start somewhere. You can't kill 499 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: the move. You could kill your love of Eric Decker 500 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: and how it might affect his stats, but the Jets 501 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: about watching football. It's boring on the Jets, okay. But 502 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: for the Jets, who needed to add a wide receiver, 503 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: they added arguably the top. I think it's an incredible bargain. 504 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: He's a better player than Mike Williams, who got more money, 505 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and he's not a knucklehead like Boring though, if they 506 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: go out and add three more targets over the course 507 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: of now in September and potentially bring Michael Vickens, it's 508 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a boring offense. As long as Rex Ryan's there, 509 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: they got him at a good number. There could also 510 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: be the Brian heartline line. That's a different line we 511 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: always talk about. To be a white guy. He Decker 512 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: agreed to this deal, right, wasn't yanked it? Oh, here's sorry, 513 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: here you are playing for that? He went out to 514 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: dinner with Rex Ryan. Was he agreed to it? Well. 515 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: The Brian hartline line is that Wesleyan every time a 516 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: receiver contract happens, when he's like, well, he's better than Brian. 517 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: Harlan's not making as much as Harley makes about six 518 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: million a year, and I consider that basically the baseline. 519 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: If you're a average starter that got the free agency 520 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: and he's just above that, he's basically being paid to 521 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: be a number two receiver. It's not really big big money. 522 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: It's almost the exact same contract is Stevie Johnson, which 523 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: is appropriate because they're both at the Eric Decker level now. 524 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: We would have loved to see him with the Colts. 525 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: That would have been an interesting That's why I'm a 526 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: little bitter. They don't get them and it's over, So 527 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: why i'm a little bit. I'm allowed to have biased 528 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: although Decker is yes, it's almost like he's trying to 529 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: convince himself into this move. He spoke with the media 530 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: on Friday and he said, you know, look, New Jersey, 531 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Newark really underrated, beautiful places. Those are actual quote significant 532 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: other two and it's easier to say it's New York's 533 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: an easy sell on a rising spouse. I thought I 534 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: thought you were going with. Decker was trying to sell 535 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: himself on Geno Smith, which was kind of it's a 536 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: tough sell. But what else is he gonna say? Somebody asked, 537 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: what do you think about playing for Gene Smith after 538 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: playing for Peyton Man, He's like, oh, it's gonna suck. 539 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: He's not gonna say that. He's gonna like spin it, 540 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: but it will suck. But I just don't think um that. Ultimately, 541 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Geno Smith is the Jets quarterback. So you know what 542 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: else is gonna suck is when he gets held to 543 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: two catches for twenty one yards in two different meetings 544 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: against Darrell Vis twice a year. You know what else 545 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: is gonna I thought you're gonna say, like when I 546 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: kidnap him and keep it in my basement. Damn final 547 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: though not a bad move by the Jets, A good 548 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: move by the Jets. I got him at a bargain rate. 549 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I just as a fan of football and watching good football. Yes, 550 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: I hate it. Well. I think Wesselyn sees the future 551 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: and he knows he can see the October eighth podcast 552 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: where I'm killing him and getting on his boy Eric 553 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Decker because he's only had eight catches this year. And 554 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: I'll be fine. I'll be fine with saying give him 555 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback and he'll be about this. And nobody asked 556 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: me in my prediction. Eric Decker two catches, eighteen hundred yards, 557 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns. I like it. I like it on tech 558 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Mobile about they don't make tech Mobile anymore. Be a 559 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: lot cooler if they did, uh, Jeremichael Finley looks like 560 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: he's heading to the Seahawks. He visited with them this 561 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: week and then canceled all his other visits. The Seahawks 562 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: are waiting for him to be fully medically cleared. But 563 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: once that happens, and I guess we should assume that 564 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: will happen, Finley joins their offense. That to me seems 565 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: like a nice fit. It's interesting because they've never used 566 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: the tight end as a big pass catching element in 567 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: their offense. But with Golden Tate leaving, Percy Harvin's there 568 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: that he needs a second fiddle, so they make Jermarchael 569 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: Finley that guy. That's interesting to me. I feel like 570 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: this is one of the most under reported stories of 571 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: the week. Jeremichael Finley. It hasn't happened yet, and that's 572 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: maybe why, but it really sounds like it's a matter 573 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: of time. He fits that mold of Michael Bennett or 574 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: Cliff April, guys who are you know, knocked down a 575 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: little bit in terms of their price and going to 576 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I think he could be a huge factor 577 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: next January. Alright, the Redskins have signed defensive tackle Jason 578 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Hatcher away from the Cowboys a four year, twenty seven 579 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: point five million dollar contractors went down on Thursday. Uh, 580 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: this nice move there by the Redskins. Well, and you're 581 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: robbing from a Cowboys team that no matter what they 582 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: do will still be presented on national television twenty two 583 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: times next year, but I have to acknowledge there in 584 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: full on rebuilding mode on defense at this point. If 585 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: they weren't already where Hatcher gone, probably Spencer as well. 586 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't trust the Redskins defense at all at this point, 587 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: no matter who they add. But this is like Decker 588 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: loved the player, hate the fit. Jason Hatcher became a 589 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: superstar last year when he moved to a four three defense. 590 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: He was a three technique defensive tackle, which plays right 591 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: next to the big fact guy that takes all the blockers. 592 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: He in the three four defense, He's gonna pla defensive end. 593 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: He's played defensive end in the three or four defense 594 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: before and was an average starter. I'm torn because he's 595 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys in free agency, but everything 596 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: the Redskins touch and free agency turns to garbage. And 597 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: then when I saw the contract numbers, and then when 598 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: I heard Jason Hatcher's quote, the Redskins blew every other 599 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: offer out of the water. No one was willing to 600 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: pay him like that. So I haven't seen the details 601 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: in terms of how much money early, but there is 602 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of risk that this is a contract 603 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: that looks very bad in about a year or two. West, 604 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: I'd like your feedback on this. Marvin Lewis signs a 605 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: one year extension with the Bengals, keeping them keeping him 606 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: in town through two most successful regular season coach in 607 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Bengals history by quite a bit, that's all. I mean. 608 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: He is who he is. Bengals can't do any better 609 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: than him. What a weird tenure eleven years, only three 610 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: losing seasons but no playoff win. A Twitter follower suggested 611 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: he is kind of like the after Dalton scale for 612 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: coaches too. I like that. I don't know. I mean, 613 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be weird for him without Zimmer there, but 614 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: he is sort of right at that spot where you 615 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: don't know whether you should keep him. You know what 616 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: he is. He is completely average because he is not 617 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: well he is. He's ninety and eighty five and one 618 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: in the regular season, and if you factor in the postseason, 619 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: he has ninety nine and one. Yeah, but that's what 620 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: the big Mike Brown ownership and if and if he 621 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: were in a city with an owner that wanted to 622 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: get tough and bringing the right guy, I don't I 623 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: don't think that Marvin Lewis is a bad coach, but 624 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: he would have been out of there a long time 625 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: ago in another city. Don't give him a little bit credit. Mark, 626 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Marvin lew Is a great defensive mind of his own. 627 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't just Mike Zimmer. They've averaged ten wins a 628 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: year the last three years. So it's very hard to 629 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: They've got their act together because their drafting changed a 630 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: little bit. I think because Marvin Lewis got more involved 631 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: in it than any previous coach with the Bengal Do 632 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: you think, though, after no playoff wins in twelve years, 633 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: that that would lad We're can most NFL cities. No, 634 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: but this is the most unique NFL city. He's right now. 635 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: Year to year, he's winning ten games a year over 636 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: the last thirty years, Over the last twenty five years, 637 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals ownership is the most unique in the NFL. Well, 638 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: unique sounds positive, and I'm not sure that it's a 639 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: positive positive unique. Well, we're talking about always as we 640 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: board Dan to death here in the mid nineties. People 641 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: are gonna believe this. The Bengals had like one scout 642 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: that was their department, wasn't it their television. Well they 643 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: would send, Yeah, they would send their television announcer Dave Lapham. 644 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: While he was announcing Big Eight football games, they asked 645 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: him to double as a scout. All right, So that 646 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: is it for news. Before we go, we need to 647 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: take care of some business. Last I guess it was 648 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: Friday show. Right, it was a week ago. We played 649 00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: the revolutionary new game Go Get My Sandwich. Last parts 650 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be implied. Oh right, I keep forgetting that. 651 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: I will be better. Um So gold Center touch based 652 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: with gold Center earlier this week. I said, why don't 653 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: we go through the backlog because I failed as a host. 654 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't tracking any of this as we were going 655 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: through all the sandwich bets. Let's listen to it, pull 656 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: out what the actual steaks were, and now we'll revisit 657 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: it and see who owes what to who or whom? 658 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: So who are whom? Whom? Whom to whom? All right, 659 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: so why don't we start a Gold Center? Are you 660 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: prepared for this segment? Alright? Let's start Arthur Jones Ravens 661 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: Defensive End, the older brother of Patriots sack masters Chandler 662 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: Jones and m M A Fighter John Bones Jones, Jim 663 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: Horrible or John Horrible said the other day, if you 664 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: put the game tape on, you know teams are going 665 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: to bid high on this guy. I'm taking the Colts. 666 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: You guys get the rest of the field victory for 667 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: what yes, sweet victory, and that you should have gotten 668 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: odds on that because that was I mean, you took 669 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: one team, we got thirty one. Well, that was the 670 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: object of the game. You gotta go bold, make it interesting. 671 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: And just so everyone knows, Greg, you were the only 672 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: person who took that sandwich bet. It's true you and 673 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: Greg both took it. Mark backed out. I did not 674 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: take it, and you can study the tape. You could 675 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: study the tape is what you can do out is 676 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: in the term. I found your logic stunningly convincing to 677 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: the tape, and you and Greg both accepted the challenge. 678 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not going to do another controversy with 679 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: check the tape. I promise you. I didn't take it, 680 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: but you can look at and if you listen and 681 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: hear it, then I will Greg your quote on just 682 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: a businessman when you took this bet. Sometimes it doesn't Yeah, 683 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: I liked my odds. You gotta just play out emotionally. 684 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: I am not trying to see the proof is on 685 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: the tape. If I that would be pretty dirty for 686 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: me to try to get I without you guys checking. 687 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: I never took it. I said, I'm not gonna do this. 688 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do I think those are exactly I'll 689 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: have to listen to. That's not the way I recall it. Alright, 690 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: next one gold Standard on March fourteen, Mark Sanchez will 691 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: be an Oakland Raider. Alright, we're recording the show on Friday, 692 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: March fourteenth. Not only is Mark Sanche is not an 693 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: Oakland raid he is still a member of the New 694 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: York Jets. I guess, technically, Mark, you're not dead yet, 695 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: but plenty of time, would you like. Let's let's assume 696 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: I guess when is the official league day over. It's 697 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: a couple hours away. Now, let's assume nothing happens. Well, 698 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: if it's March fourteen anywhere, then this thing's on. It's 699 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: by Saturday. By the time we wake up Saturday morning, 700 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: I am in trouble. I'm going to be have to 701 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: be on the transaction wire. In the next I've already 702 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: teed up three elaborate high octane sandwiches for the each 703 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: of you. But I get to choose with you. I 704 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: know you're a veget Terran, but that sandwich I'd go 705 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: like cow's tongue, spiders and herbs. It's something different. West, 706 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to get the most meaty 707 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: thing with juice falling off, the particles of meat just 708 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: running down your face. It's in the mail, baby. That 709 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: would be good sandwiches. That'll be weird too. Um. Just 710 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: so you know, Yeah, you're right, Dan, Greg and West 711 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: all get sandwiches. You guys might want to track this 712 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: um as we go along. So right now Greg goes 713 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: to sandwiches. Yeah, Greg's even, but not really money wise 714 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: or even, but sandwich wise. There's two your involved with 715 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: two transactions, and uh, here we go Greg's It's now 716 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: Greg's pick. Julian Edelman will get more guaranteed money than 717 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: your boy Golden Tate. Golden Tate signed with the Detroit 718 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: Lions this week. He got thirteen point to five million 719 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: and guaranteed. Julian Edelman still on the market again. This 720 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: technically he could beat Tap, but technically about it. This 721 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: bet is open. I would not make this bet it's open. 722 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: Edman doesn't factually don't know that it's not over, but 723 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: it's not looking too good. How about we doubled down 724 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: and say Edelman doesn't get thirteen point to five total. 725 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 1: I'd stick to the original faith in the prognostication, wouldn't 726 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: make Did did we give up when the Germans bombed 727 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: Pearl Harvard? I'm not backing down. No, I don't know. Hey, 728 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: I wanna make it again. But we got a chance. Julian, 729 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: come on, spent some money, two years, fourteen million, totally guaranteed. 730 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: I don't even know if Julian Edelman is better than 731 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: Quentin Patton. What Quentin Patton? I still got a chance here, 732 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: all right? If this holds, Greg, I was with you 733 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: on this one. So but Mark and West, Mark and 734 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: West likely will because because I was on his side, Mice, 735 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: I missed an opportunity. So good news. I'm down to sandwiches. No, 736 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: you would get a sandwich in this situation. Total, Okay, 737 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking holistically al right. Next up my turn, jaris 738 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: Bird will, against all odds, shocking the world re sign 739 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills, taking by far the worst one. Um, 740 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: But because I was a man of strategy. I only 741 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: took gregg sandwich bet so I owe greggor sandwich. That 742 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: was unmanly of you. It was listen, tell NFL gum 743 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: shooted Wells to come in here and investigate the situation. 744 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to just throw out sandwiches. Willy nilly, 745 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: m hm. I'm collecting smart of you. In hindsight, I 746 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: mocked you, but it was small of you, and that 747 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. I don't care. It's all about 748 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: ending up on top. Relatively speaking, West the first free 749 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: agent signed, We'll be Brandon Albert to the Cardinals. Oh. 750 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: I thought West was a Svengali that predicted everything. And 751 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: this was part of a larger uh situation where we 752 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: all went out and predicted who would be the first 753 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: free agents separate two separate. Oh no, this was involved 754 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: in that. This organically grew out of it. Well, it 755 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: was later in the discussion we said, why don't we 756 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: then do this? We took sandwich bets on your specific yes, 757 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: and then went on see you got listen. I don't 758 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: know if that's true. I need to listen to this table. Well, 759 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: I do trust that Dan seems like he went methodically 760 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: went back, and so I spent about seven hours of 761 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: a shift at some point this week through this tape. Um. 762 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: And just so we know, Mark, strangely you agreed with 763 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: West even all the all the odds were on the 764 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: side of everyone else. You said, I agree that Brandon 765 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: Ollert will go to the Cardinals side with the Dolphins. 766 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: And it wasn't first. West is able to like a 767 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: tractor beam pulling in with some sort of allure, and 768 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: I fell for that glimp that he has a Southern smile. Um. 769 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: And so Dan and Greg gets sandwiches in that case. Uh, 770 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: And then just going through a couple more first person 771 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: to sign, No one's getting a sandwich here, but I 772 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: will go through the list Wes. You had Albert to cards, Um, Greg, 773 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: Michael Johnson, two Vikings, Mark Gyros, Bird, Jara's Bird to Brown's. Sorry, buddy, 774 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: I had Golden Tate to Lions, but not first gold Standards. 775 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: Gold Standard had Golden Tatewo Titans. Sorry, that was, in 776 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: hindsight an impossible bet to win. Every single person signed 777 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: at four oh one, right, how closely did you follow 778 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: that gold Standard knowing that you were involved with a sandwich? 779 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: Pretty pretty closely Uh. Yeah, you know, I really thought 780 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: I saw a narrative being spun there. But do you 781 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: know how to reach the NFL dot com home page? Well, 782 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: I have to go through Google first, but usually I do. 783 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm feeling lucky and you know, it works out. And 784 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 1: then let's see what else we had? Um Texans pass 785 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: on Clowney take a quarterback number one who threw that up? 786 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: I shouldn't even allowed that that had nothing? But that's see, 787 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: that's hard to track term. That's a long term sandwich. 788 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: Bet Dan and Mark both said that that uh wouldn't happen, 789 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: So that will down the line and the highest paid 790 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: player in free agency. Obviously this one isn't technically over 791 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: yet in terms of guaranteed money. There's another weird one. 792 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: Greg West and myself all said Eugene Monroe. I don't 793 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: know why we all agreed there. Why are you just 794 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: like soldiers of group think speak for yourself? We all 795 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: did this at some point. This is almost like one 796 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 1: of those times said why did you come up with 797 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: the same answer, all three of you, the pot calling 798 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: the kettle uh? And then Mark you had Michael Johnson. 799 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: So Eugene Monroe got nineteen million guaranteed. Michael Johnson got 800 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: twenty four million guaranteed. Gyros Jara's Bird got twenty eight 801 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. A Keep to Leave Out of Nowhere got 802 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty six million guaranteed. That ends up being twelve million. 803 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: It ends up being a little funny money with Deli. 804 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: But Bird's gonna win and number one on our list. 805 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: So you ever thought it? Overthought? It classic over managing. 806 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: So Bird wasn't in Monroe, by the way, wasn't even 807 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: the top tackle. Wait, there are two more sandwiches out there, 808 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: Gregg and I have side sandwiches. Well, this is before 809 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: this ever happened. Mike Mitchell versus Kendrick Lewis on who 810 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: gets more guaranteed money. Mike Mitchell had a five year 811 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: five Yeah, Kendrick Lewis, nobody wants him. He's not even 812 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna be signed. The Housewives of America have been put 813 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: to sleep on this bet. Canadian dollars count on this bet. 814 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: Once again, it doesn't It doesn't look good, but you 815 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: have not won the bet, and an injury is gonna 816 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: happen in August. I'm gonna go a little cessler out here. 817 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: Mike Mitchell gets injured then then they bring in Lewis 818 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: for five years, thirty millions predicting injuries and eighteen million guaranteed. Whatever. 819 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: I was right about that. How would you guys like it? 820 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: If an NFL player predicted one of us get carpal 821 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: tunnel syndrome. I worked in the post office. That's a 822 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: big danger there. And we had Dan and I had 823 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: a sandwich one well before we ever even thought about 824 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: this game, months ago, will the genesis of the game. 825 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: Will Richie Incognito ever play in the NFL? Again? And 826 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: this was at a point when it was looking a 827 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: little better for Incognito, But right now I said he 828 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: would not. And I'm feeling pretty strong. You know. As 829 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: soon as Richie Incognito destroyed his Ferrari with a baseball bat, 830 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, this could be a problem for me, 831 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: for you, You're the one with the problem. Okay, listen, 832 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 1: we all have problems. That's his thing. I got my thing, 833 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: which is probably a tasty sandwich going to Greg. But 834 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: that one we have to wait several years to find out. 835 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: Potentially too, we never capt it. He could come back 836 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: three years from now. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure a 837 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: lot of teams are gonna be Hey, Incognito hasn't been 838 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,280 Speaker 1: around block you just let's see what he's up to. 839 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Hooters down in Boca ratonas Chris 840 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: would say, and see what he's up to. Um, all right, 841 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,439 Speaker 1: so that's that. Of course we will let you guys 842 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: know when those um the ones that are kind of 843 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 1: hanging out there official that could be well Marx obviously 844 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: it is about twenty minutes. He'll lose. And um what 845 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: was the other one? Oh, the Julian Edelman Golden Tate 846 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: that's still hanging in the air. We'll get that taken 847 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: care of. Um. That's it for Friday's Nytail Podcast. Another 848 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: award winner. What are are there any other awards that 849 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: we can win? We got the Stitcher, We got the 850 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: Best of two thousand. It's like a Stitcher Gold Center. 851 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: Are you aware of any of these things? Can you not? 852 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: Didn't even know the awards existed, So maybe there's more 853 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: out there. I feel like it's sort of like once 854 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: you get an Oscar, like an Emmy, like trying to 855 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: get an independent Spirit War or something. Yes, Radio Foreign 856 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: Press Podcast American That. Yeah, just keep an eye on 857 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: a gold center. Um, all right, so we will be 858 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: back on Monday. We'll be talking more free agency and 859 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: everything else that's going on in the NFL. Silbern, This 860 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 1: Dan Hansens signing up for the Mailman, the Sizzler, the boss, 861 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 1: and the gold standard behind the glass until the blah 862 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah