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Speaker 2: It's our one on this Tuesday. Still fighting whatever I

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Speaker 2: had in Las Vegas. It's not going away, just like Fritzy,

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Speaker 2: always going to be there, but we'll battle it together.

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Speaker 2: The voice trying to hold up here. Fritzy's got a

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Speaker 2: smile on his face, Dylan's in for Seaton, Marvin's here,

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Speaker 2: Paul yours truly in the backroom, guys. I told you

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Speaker 2: it was going to happen, and it did. Standalone game

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Speaker 2: Drake May, he was in second place with DraftKings MVP

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Speaker 2: odds to Matthew Stafford, Drake May is now your favorite

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Speaker 2: to win the MVP. What I love about Drake May,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot to like about him, is there's

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Speaker 2: not a high high and low low. You get really

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Speaker 2: consistent numbers with him. He has not had a passing

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Speaker 2: game under two hundred yards. He hasn't had a passing

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Speaker 2: game over three hundred yards. I love that there's this

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Speaker 2: window and he's the passing leader right now in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I like that you don't have to do too much,

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Speaker 2: but you got to do enough. And they're a really

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Speaker 2: good team. Now we can say the Giants aren't a

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Speaker 2: really good team, but you'd be correct with that at

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Speaker 2: two and eleven. So I'm looking at New England now,

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Speaker 2: best record in the AFC. They host Buffalo, they're at Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: They're at the Jets, and then they host Miami.

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Speaker 3: Let's say they.

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Speaker 2: Go two and two, maybe three and one, okay, getting

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Speaker 2: the home field advantage. They're not afraid of anybody coming

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Speaker 2: to town. If Kansas City's not in the mix, Baltimore

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Speaker 2: might not be in the mix. Are you worried about

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Speaker 2: Denver coming in? The Colts Jacksonville? So I would say

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Speaker 2: right now what New England has done. Certainly Mike Rabel

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Speaker 2: that he is the third coach to win ten and

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Speaker 2: more at ten game winning streak since Jim Caldwell and

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Speaker 2: nine Steve Mariucci in nineteen ninety seven. Staut of the

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Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, you know it's funny, weirdly funny to watch

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Speaker 4: on social media when the Patriots are lighting up last

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Speaker 4: night and their quarterback looks like an MVP candidate.

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Speaker 3: Like people who don't.

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Speaker 4: Like the Patriots are responding like it wasn't long enough

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Speaker 4: that the dip of the Patriots, the post Brady post

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Speaker 4: Belichick dip, it wasn't long enough. They had like what

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Speaker 4: two bad years, four and thirteen, four and thirteen. Now

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Speaker 4: they're back atop the AFC after twenty years of high

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Speaker 4: end play. They needed more of a break. It's like

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Speaker 4: the Bulls when Jordan left and they had Marcus Pfizer.

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Speaker 4: You need some down years.

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Speaker 2: I thought that they had a round a four or

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Speaker 2: five year run when Belichick was hanging on there and.

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Speaker 3: They had cooled off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they in two thousand and one they were ten

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Speaker 4: and seven, made the playoffs. Who they're eight to nine

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Speaker 4: miss the playoffs? Then four and thirteen, four and thirteen,

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Speaker 4: But OK, it's way too quick to be back up top.

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Speaker 2: You're right that they found their coach and they found

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Speaker 2: their quarterback. And if you have that in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: you are ahead of the game. You're ahead of eighty

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Speaker 2: five percent of the other teams. You got an MVP candidate,

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Speaker 2: and you got probably the coach of the year with

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Speaker 2: Mike Rabel. And you look at every time I see

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Speaker 2: Mike Brabel, I go, now, why didn't Tennessee want to

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Speaker 2: keep him, tell me or did he want to stay?

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Speaker 2: And you know, ownership new ownership and they didn't want

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Speaker 2: But Mike Brabel, I've said this before, in't coach whatever sport.

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Speaker 2: You know, he can coach whatever team I got, doesn't matter. Yes, Dylan,

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Speaker 2: how how long do you think until we start hating Drake?

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Speaker 5: Mike Rabel?

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Speaker 6: Like two and a half years of sustained success.

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Speaker 2: I don't I think you got to win first? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you got to win time. We don't hate

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Speaker 2: teams that don't win titles.

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Speaker 1: If they rip off a couple of Super Bowls in

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Speaker 1: the next fight.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, then then you're allowed to hate them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they would probably expect that. But there's nothing about

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Speaker 2: Drake May where you go, Man, I hate that guy

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Speaker 2: or his attitude or anything. I mean handing out turkeys

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Speaker 2: seems like next door. And then go out and play

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Speaker 2: like he did against the Giants. By the way, Jackson

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Speaker 2: Dart please, you know, tough guys don't last, not at

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Speaker 3: In the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Get out of bounds, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to Steve Young about this because he

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Speaker 2: learned to get out of bounds. But you know these

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Speaker 2: a sudden, you got a chance to pop him, and

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Speaker 2: he's not going to get out of bound. You get

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Speaker 2: whatever you deserve. If he didn't get up, I'd say

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Speaker 2: that's your fault.

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Speaker 5: Dude.

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Speaker 3: Here is Jackson Dark And it starts with the reporter's question.

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Speaker 7: Well, it sounds like a broken record, Jackson, just asking

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Speaker 7: and things like that.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything you would have.

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Speaker 6: Done different on that one?

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Speaker 7: No, look like I understand the question, but like this

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Speaker 7: is like this is football, Like I'm gonna get hit

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Speaker 7: if I'm in the pocket or outside the pocket. Like

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Speaker 7: it's I don't I feel like I've played this way

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Speaker 7: my whole entire life. This shouldn't be like any shock

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Speaker 7: or anybody. If you've followed along with my career and

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Speaker 7: I'm we're not playing like we're not playing soccer out here,

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Speaker 7: Like you're gonna get hit.

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Speaker 6: Things happen.

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Speaker 2: It's part of the game, Okay, The violence is part

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Speaker 2: of the game. Your goal as a quarterback is to

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Speaker 2: eliminate the opportunities for violence on your body getting sacked.

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Speaker 2: Just go down live to see another play. Get out

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Speaker 2: of bounds. Here's Mike Rabel on the hit on Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 8: It's a weekly reminder to the quarterback, our quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 8: I mean, we show him every week.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't get too cute over there by the sidelines.

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Speaker 6: It happens every week.

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Speaker 8: And so Christian's playing, you know, through the whistle, and

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Speaker 8: as long as the players in bounds, he's going to

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Speaker 8: try to hit him legally.

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Speaker 3: And he did.

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Speaker 2: And once again, you can just get out of bounds.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to be a tough guy. Tough guy

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Speaker 2: is playing every single week. A tough guy plays seventeen games.

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Speaker 2: That's what your goal should be, not Hey did you

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Speaker 2: see me run over that defensive back. And I've seen

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Speaker 2: way too many quarterbacks think they're tough enough to do this,

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Speaker 2: and they're not. They're not built that way. These guys

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Speaker 2: are ready to hit you. They know how to hit you,

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Speaker 2: and they want to hurt you. If you're a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: get out of bounds.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Pauline.

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Speaker 4: If you watch a hit by Christian Ellis, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 4: is not going out a bout. He's not doing that

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Speaker 4: like ease up. We're all agreeing that I'm turning towards

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Speaker 4: the sidelines. He's still going forward and Christian Ellis, you know,

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Speaker 4: you can't hit him in the pocket, you can't hit

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Speaker 4: him low, you can't really hit him high. This is

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Speaker 4: your opportunity to declete someone, and these guys are gonna

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Speaker 4: take it. And Aikman said it was a legal play.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Ben Aikman said that Jackson Dart has got to change

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Speaker 2: his style, and that's coming from a guy who had

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Speaker 2: multiple concussions and ended his career sooner than he probably

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Speaker 2: wanted to. But I like Jackson Dart's energy. I like

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Speaker 2: what he's given to the team. But I just want

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Speaker 2: you to harness that and use it when you need

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Speaker 2: to use that, yes, Martin.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Unfortunately, now when I watch Jackson Dart, I look

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Speaker 9: at him the way we do to it, where every

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Speaker 9: time he gets you start wincing when he starts running

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Speaker 9: like slide please, because now all we think of is

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Speaker 9: the concussions more so than your quarterback play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, poly and totally being a tough guy when it's necessary.

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Speaker 4: If it's the fourth quarter of week seventeen, and you're

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Speaker 4: trying to get in the playoffs. Be a tough guy,

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Speaker 4: put your head down, get plays. You're two and ten

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Speaker 4: in a football game that doesn't really matter. Let's let's

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Speaker 4: make some nice throws and get out of here for

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Speaker 4: next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's surprising. And you know, Brian Dabele, maybe part

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Speaker 2: of the reason why I lost his job is they

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Speaker 2: were doing design runs for Jackson Dart and he had

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Speaker 2: a couple of concussions or games where there were concussion

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Speaker 2: symptoms there and in the blue tent, I gotta protect

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Speaker 2: my quarterback. I think the Giants have found their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think he's really good, but he hasn't learned anything.

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Speaker 2: And that's what scares me. Just like he said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: anybody who knows how I play, now, his dad, you know,

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Speaker 2: played that way. Dad was a tough guy, defensive player.

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Speaker 2: Your quarterback. The ability to be available. That's the key

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Speaker 2: for these quarterbacks. Look at the number of injuries at

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Speaker 2: that position, and they're protecting the quarterback the best thing

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Speaker 2: that will give you an idea of just how violent

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Speaker 2: the game is. But watching Jackson Dart and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he got popped, and

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Speaker 2: I go, Okay, if that doesn't get his attention, then

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Speaker 2: nothing's gonna get his attention. And as we heard from

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Speaker 10: Yes, Todd, and you think you're being selfless, well, you're

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Speaker 10: actually being selfish because there's so much invested in you

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Speaker 10: and they want this guy to be their quarterback for

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Speaker 10: the future. To try to get that extra yard or too,

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Speaker 10: you gotta kind of think ahead a little bit that

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Speaker 10: this organization has got so much invested in you. It's

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Speaker 10: not about getting an extra yard or two. It's not

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Speaker 10: the end of the fourth quarter of a playoff game

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Speaker 10: where you've got to pick up that first down of

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Speaker 10: the game's overraving.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if his teammates are gonna go, oh,

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Speaker 2: did you see him get out of bounds? Come on,

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Speaker 2: nobody's gonna say that, just walk out of bounds if

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Speaker 2: you get one extra yard. I don't know if your

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Speaker 2: team with two wins goes yes, now, yes, now we're back.

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Speaker 2: Like you're you're just getting experience. That's all you're doing.

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Speaker 2: It's getting information here to take into next year. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you get a new head coach, but you do have

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Speaker 2: some positives here. Scataboo Malik neighbors a couple of defensive players. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you might be able to be competitive, but how about

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Speaker 2: you get ready for next season? Not I'm gonna show

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Speaker 2: these guys. Wow, you really showed the Patriots get out

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Speaker 2: of bounds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I was watching the Manning cast for a

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Speaker 4: little bit and they were discussing that the Dart hit

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Speaker 4: and they showed a clip. You know, they always bag

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Speaker 4: on Peyton Manning, and they showed Manning avoiding a sack

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Speaker 4: where he just kind of laid down. But I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who said it on his paint or Eli.

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Speaker 4: Peyton's first ten years in the league, he didn't mess

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Speaker 4: a start, and he said, he goes. My job is

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Speaker 4: to not get hit. We paid about millions of dollars

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Speaker 4: to offensivelignment to keep me from getting hit.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to volunteer to get hit.

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Speaker 2: But every week we find this, there'll be a quarterback

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Speaker 2: But even Lamar Jackson's not running anywhere near what he

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen is a unicorn, okay, because he's as big

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Speaker 9: I'm here to play football and that's not with the NFL.

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Speaker 9: No No, we want you to use those the arms,

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Speaker 3: If you were on Old Miss right.

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Speaker 6: I would vote to keep him on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's basically saying he can't win a national

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Speaker 12: But I think the hard thing is, but then who

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Speaker 12: Going to change some things up because I think even

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Speaker 12: I don't want to get fined and get fifteen yard

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Speaker 6: To be out there. I think the speed surprises him.

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Speaker 3: America seems in love with Drake May.

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Speaker 2: How does that change? Where we've seen this with New

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Speaker 6: As a basketball player, and he talked about it, He's like.

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Speaker 12: They used to beat me up, they used to punish me,

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Speaker 6: And their energy, the way they're showing up to.

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Speaker 2: What advice would you give Drake May about playoff football

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Speaker 12: I would tell him exactly what I heard for thirteen years.

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Speaker 6: That would be the first thing I told him.

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Speaker 3: Ever late for a meeting with the Patriots.

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Speaker 6: Nah, man, they cut people and sent people home for

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Speaker 6: And I saw guys get sent home for being late

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Speaker 2: Who told us the story about they faked being in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you had to have a good story because

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Speaker 4: Dan, he told us the story. It was a former

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Speaker 6: We had a guy Kyle Aaronton Carr.

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Speaker 12: It was snowed, his car couldn't get out of the

442
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Speaker 12: parking lot. He hitch hiped to work just in fear

443
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Speaker 12: of being late, went out on the road and stood

444
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Speaker 12: there and asked somebody, Hey, I played for the Patriots.

445
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Speaker 12: You mind dropping me off the street out of Patriot Place.

446
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Speaker 2: So the AFC is open right now, it feels like

447
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: and if the Patriots get the home field advantage, I

448
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: don't think they're and the Chiefs don't make the playoffs,

449
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Speaker 2: or the Ravens don't make the playoffs, or even if

450
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Speaker 2: they do, doesn't feel like anybody scares them, including the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, who they have coming up this next game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think they already went to Buffalo and won, and

454
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Speaker 12: I think right now they've gotten this rhythm. And I

455
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Speaker 12: think even going off last week they go play Cincinnati

456
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Speaker 12: and it just felt like this past week Rabel was

457
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Speaker 12: just tearing into them. And I don't know that for sure,

458
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Speaker 12: but the way they came out Monday night felt like

459
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Speaker 12: it was a response to them feeling like they didn't

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Speaker 12: play their best ball the week before in Cincinnati. And

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Speaker 12: I think I remember being on those teams that made

462
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Speaker 12: that run. It was all about after Thanksgiving, how did

463
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Speaker 12: we just play our best football. We had seasons where

464
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 12: we didn't give up a second half touchdown in games,

465
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Speaker 12: you know, from the second week in December all the

466
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Speaker 12: way through winning a super Bowl, like those things that

467
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Speaker 12: you can do and be special in that makes a difference,

468
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Speaker 12: and this team just feels like they're moving in that direction.

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Speaker 3: More concerned about the Chiefs are the Eagles.

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Speaker 12: I'm more concerned about the Eagles. I think for the Chiefs,

471
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Speaker 12: the truth of the matter is everyone else around them

472
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Speaker 12: just got better. I think this Chiefs team is actually

473
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Speaker 12: better than the team last year that made it.

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Speaker 6: To the Super Bowl. But the Broncos are better. The

475
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Speaker 6: Chargers are better the.

476
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Speaker 12: Indianapolis Colt like you look at all these other teams

477
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Speaker 12: that got better.

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Speaker 6: The Eagles. To me, they're just underachieving. And I kind

479
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Speaker 6: of was like, Hey, don't get too concerned.

480
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Speaker 12: Until last week when I watched Chicago beat Philly. At

481
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Speaker 12: what Philly does the best, their defensive line, their front,

482
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 12: they pushed them around. That was alarming for me, and

483
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Speaker 12: I think they need to fix that right away.

484
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Speaker 3: Always good to talk to you, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: Thank you Devin, anytime man, Good talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Devin mccordy.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the best NFL analyst in America. He's

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Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. He's Steve Young, three times Super

493
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Speaker 2: Bowl champ. Back on the program, I thought about you

494
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Speaker 2: with BYU, with your head coach and perhaps maybe mutual

495
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Speaker 2: interest with Penn State. So let me ask you the

496
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Speaker 2: question that old miss LSU have had to deal with.

497
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Speaker 2: How would you feel if you're a head coach? What

498
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Speaker 2: happened to take a job while the season still going on.

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, something's really wrong that allows for

500
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Speaker 5: this kind of madness, you know, so we got to

501
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Speaker 5: fix that. I don't know, you know, I don't know

502
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Speaker 5: how to fix it. They got to fix that. It's insane.

503
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Speaker 5: It would be super painful. I mean, there's a there's

504
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Speaker 5: a symbiotic kind of beautiful thing going on between, you know,

505
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Speaker 5: everything by U and Klane and what he's doing, and

506
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Speaker 5: there's like and I think he has the love for

507
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Speaker 5: it too, So the pain would be a pretty extreme.

508
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Speaker 5: I suspect that everything's being done on the other side

509
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Speaker 5: to try to make sure that everything gets you know,

510
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Speaker 5: that he stays. But I guess that in some ways, Dan,

511
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 5: it's cool that, you know, b Yu. Then there's the

512
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Speaker 5: Big twelve and obviously super competitive and looks like they

513
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Speaker 5: can do something really you know, consistently pretty well that

514
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Speaker 5: the Penn State wants our coach. I mean, that's a

515
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Speaker 5: that's a cool thing too in some ways. So I mean,

516
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Speaker 5: but don't be confused. It would be like ripping. They'd

517
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: have to rip him. They're gonna have to rip him

518
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Speaker 5: from our bloody hands. You know. That's the kind of

519
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Speaker 5: I think about it.

520
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Speaker 2: And I also thought about you last night, knowing we

521
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Speaker 2: were going to have you on. When Jackson darts running

522
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Speaker 2: the ball and he decides that he's not going to

523
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Speaker 2: get out of bounds a little earlier, and his philosophy

524
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Speaker 2: or his mindset is, Hey, I'm going to continue to

525
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Speaker 2: do this. I'm a football player, it's not soccer. What

526
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Speaker 2: would you say to Jackson Dart Well, some of it.

527
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Speaker 5: I think as a quarterback, you have to give your

528
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Speaker 5: teammates a sense that you're in for it all and

529
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Speaker 5: you know, and you got to, you got You're not

530
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Speaker 5: the toughest guy on the team because you know there's

531
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Speaker 5: always someone upper, but everyone needs to trust that you

532
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 5: are going to be good for it physically, mentally, emotionally,

533
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 5: and that's what in the locker room is vital. So

534
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Speaker 5: I think he's trying to build that kind of you know,

535
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Speaker 5: and that's smart, but it's also it could be stupid,

536
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Speaker 5: like you have to be able to under you know,

537
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 5: be able to say that and be that, and then

538
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 5: yet protect yourself and be you know, you don't have

539
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 5: to ram into the linebackers for no reason. You don't

540
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 5: have to look for an extra yard when it doesn't matter,

541
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 5: and you know, get out of balance, and everyone on

542
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 5: the team would say, Jackson, you appreciate your toughness, We

543
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Speaker 5: appreciate the way that you want to, you know, represent

544
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 5: but you got to stop and and and you got

545
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Speaker 5: to stay healthy, and as a pro player, you really

546
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: need to learn how to do that. I love when

547
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 5: Emmitt's s meant to just say no when the journey

548
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 5: is over and then get to the ground and be

549
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Speaker 5: done and move on. And I think that that's something

550
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: he's going to have to learn. Well. He tries to

551
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 5: let everybody know I'm tough, and you know, there's a

552
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: there's a a fine line that he needs to find.

553
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Speaker 2: Well, you can show your toughness by being out there

554
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Speaker 2: for seventeen regular season games. That that's really difficult to

555
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Speaker 2: do just to stay healthy for seventeen games. I don't

556
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Speaker 2: need to add to the degree of difficulty here.

557
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Speaker 5: But he's you, he's trying to set he wants to

558
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: be around for a long time. And so in the

559
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: locker room, because you've got to understand Dan, everybody in

560
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 5: the locker room has to go and ram into somebody

561
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: and to get that inspiration and have the quarterback be

562
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 5: somebody that's willing to put himself at risk is somehow

563
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 5: inspiring in some ways. So it's like it's again, I

564
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 5: get you and and and being healthy is the most

565
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 5: important thing. And I think that that's why I say

566
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: Jackson can be healthy for seventeen weeks, take care of himself,

567
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 5: be smart, and give off the you know, representation. He's

568
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 5: you know, a tough guy and to be counted on

569
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Speaker 5: and trusted. So he's just young. He's trying to figure

570
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 5: it out, and he's being a little you know, over zealous,

571
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 5: and he needs to he needs to figure out how

572
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: to avoid stupidity, Like stupidity is just You're right, the

573
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 5: locker room will. They don't like stupid either, So it's

574
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 5: like you gotta be you gotta have it all.

575
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Speaker 3: Okay, But take me back.

576
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Speaker 2: When you're beginning your career in San Francisco, you want

577
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Speaker 2: to prove that you're a tough guy. But part of

578
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: this was learning how to go through your progressions right,

579
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: so you didn't run as often as you did. So

580
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how many designed runs you had with

581
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: San Francisco.

582
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Speaker 5: Not a lot, I mean, but that's what Bill watsh

583
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 5: I mean, He's I'd scramble around and run for a

584
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: first down or even a touchdown, and I go the sidelines.

585
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: He goes, what are you doing? But I'm like, why,

586
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 5: I'm scoring. I'm scoring. He goes, yeah, but noh know,

587
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: it's where to going, Like, you know, that's fine right

588
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 5: now for once, but what are we going to do

589
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 5: like for the rest of the And so it's really

590
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: the same. It's the same thing that Jackson's got to

591
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 5: figure out is the game is sophisticated passing from the pocket.

592
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: That's quarterback. Now today's quarterback. You have to threat in

593
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage with your feet and you have

594
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 5: to go get those free yards. They're everywhere And I

595
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 5: wish I played today. I keep telling that you that

596
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 5: over and overs like it would be awesome. But again,

597
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: you've got to develop the sophistication in the pocket and

598
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 5: yet move the football, yet win games yet you know,

599
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: So this transition into the pro game and becoming a

600
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: player that people can count on as a quarterback, it's

601
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: it's not for the you know, faint of heart, and

602
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 5: it's got all kinds of angles on it, and you're

603
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 5: bringing up the really important ones.

604
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Speaker 2: Do you think you would have rushed for ten thousand

605
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Speaker 2: yards in today's NFL.

606
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Speaker 5: Over a career. No, no, no, because I think the

607
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 5: game again, it's not like it's not a numbers, it's

608
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 5: not a totality. You're not gonna you know, you're not

609
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: gonna run for one hundred and twenty yards a game.

610
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: It's like, that's not the game today. The game is

611
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 5: still a sophisticated passing from the pocket. But again those

612
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 5: spitting out and even Justin Herberts realized that think about

613
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 5: the players that you know, Joe Burrow realizes that you

614
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 5: have to, especially in the biggest games, your legs are

615
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 5: going to go win the football game, especially because it's

616
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 5: a closers league today. It's not you know, you're in

617
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: the third quarter of the ten point lead, like things

618
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: are looking pretty good. It's like, no, you got people

619
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Speaker 5: come back from that in two minutes in today's game.

620
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: So it's like the NBA, you have to be a

621
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 5: closer and in that way, that's with your legs. And

622
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 5: so it's not ten thousand yards, it's really vital important

623
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 5: difference making two thousand and five three thousand yards, you

624
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 5: know what I mean, It's not the numbers aren't going

625
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 5: to be like that.

626
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Speaker 2: Steve Young Hall of Famer and former ESPN NFL analyst.

627
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: What do you see when you look at Drake May.

628
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Speaker 5: Someone who gets it? I mean as a quarterback. That's

629
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 5: the best way I can say it. The game makes

630
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 5: sense to him. Twenty two people on a field running around, crazy, chaotic.

631
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: His brain obviously slows down instead of speeds up. The

632
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: more crazy it gets.

633
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Speaker 3: It's ill teachable to slow the brain down.

634
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Speaker 5: Now that's a genetic It's like you think about it, Dan,

635
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 5: the normal human reaction is you know, tension, uh pressure.

636
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: You know, your heartbeat goes up, your brain diminishes, it

637
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 5: gets focused more, but you know you don't have the

638
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 5: you don't have the presence. Think about when you're under

639
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: people are screaming at you. Like the pressure diminishes you.

640
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: It makes you, it focuses you, but it diminishes you.

641
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: You don't you're not as present. It's not like you're

642
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 5: in your backyard hanging around playing ball. But Patrick Mahomes,

643
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: for whatever reason, that's how it that's how his body

644
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: reacts to it. And I think that to be really

645
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 5: good in the game, that has to be a genetic blessing.

646
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 5: So that as things getting worse and crazier your brain

647
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 5: somehow as ah, no, we're good and uh and there's

648
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 5: a piece to it and uh. And I think that

649
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 5: people always say, well, what makes a great quarterback? I

650
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: think that's probably the number number one or number one

651
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: a number one being uh, condition that you have to have.

652
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 5: And I don't I don't think you learned it. I

653
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 5: think you can get better at it. I think things

654
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 5: can calm down over time. But I think it's just

655
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 5: a genetic reaction to kind of the the thing that's

656
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 5: happened in front of you. And that's just the pressure

657
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 5: that happened, you know, the physical reaction.

658
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Well, Gretzky would talk about how the game slowed down. Yeah,

659
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: and you're talking about hockey, but like, how do you

660
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: how do you slow down hockey where you're taking And

661
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: he talked about taking snapshots like it'd be like a

662
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: quick picture here, quick picture here, quick picture here, And

663
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: it allowed him to kind of understand, you know, the situation.

664
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: I love that that makes sense to me. That's what

665
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: that's what it feels like. And I think that that's

666
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 5: why that's why the when people, you know, when you're

667
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: forced to reach hire at a young age, no matter

668
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: what it is. Even if Tom Brady's forty five, you

669
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: so have half your life left you just you miss

670
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 5: it because it's something that is intuitive to you. It's like,

671
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 5: you know how hard it is, you know how difficult

672
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: it is to be good at it or even great

673
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 5: at it, and yet like it all makes sense, you know,

674
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 5: and like nothing else in your life can make as

675
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 5: much sense. Like I you know, the day you retire,

676
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 5: the next day you wake up, you're like, what are

677
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 5: you good at? Nothing? You know, but what do you

678
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: what are you great at this thing? That is amazing?

679
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 5: And so that's the Wayne Gretzky, what you just said

680
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: about him is that's that's the beauty of when it

681
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 5: all kind of slows down and makes sense to you,

682
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 5: despite how insane it all is, is the coolest thing

683
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 5: in the world. That's the best.

684
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: How good are your Niners?

685
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 5: I mean, how well are they coached? I mean they

686
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: lose all their stars on defense, especially, they have people

687
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 5: out most of the season on offense. And you know,

688
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 5: also Mac Jones is a guy that everybody wants in

689
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 5: the league, just like Sam Donald was. Look at you know,

690
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 5: it's like, let's just tip our cap to the coaching

691
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: number one, and let's tip our cap to the culture

692
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: of the place, locker room leadership. Obviously, they've got guys

693
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 5: in the room that pulled things together, and so how

694
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 5: good are they good enough to threaten and make people?

695
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 5: Really you can talk about a tough out and they're

696
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 5: going to be in the playoffs. I think you can

697
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 5: almost count on that. And so who wants to play

698
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers? I don't know nobody. So you

699
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 5: know that's that's for where they where they are with

700
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: the personnel and what's happened, it's pretty remarkable. I think

701
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 5: we've got to tip our cap to to really everyone

702
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: an organization right now to be nine and four.

703
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: Is Christian McCaffrey a Hall of Famer already?

704
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: It feels like it. I mean, he's a He's a

705
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 5: guy that's Roger Craig. Roger Craig was the first guy

706
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,240
Speaker 5: that I can remember that kind of took the role

707
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 5: of running back and then expanded it. And that's what

708
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 5: Christian now in the game today. How many times I

709
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 5: talk you about the world changes and how open the

710
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 5: field is and how you know the innovative minds are

711
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: the ones that dominate today that you know those innovative

712
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 5: minds led by Kyle Sean McVay, you know Danny Reid

713
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 5: and you know Sean Payne with the first ones to

714
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: kind of really do it all. You need players to

715
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 5: go fulfill that innovation, that that new space, and that

716
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: is not an iback running downhill. It's a fact that

717
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: can do kind of everything and line up everywhere and

718
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: every week come up with something a little new. The

719
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 5: coach has come up, you know, that has figured out

720
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 5: that you can go and you know perform like, yeah,

721
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 5: hand it to me, I'll do that. Oh yeah, you

722
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 5: want to You need somebody do that. I got you. Uh.

723
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 5: And that's why to me, the game changes the hall

724
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 5: of things about people that change the game and that

725
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 5: when you write the book, you can't write the book

726
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 5: without their name and uh. And you can't write the

727
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: book about the game today and running back without Christian McCaffrey.

728
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: There was a moment in the Steelers Bills game where

729
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers reacted and it looked like the receiver went

730
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: the wrong way and it was supposed to be you know,

731
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: maybe an in cut and he but Tony Romo pointed

732
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: it out. He's like, oh, the receiver went the because

733
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: Aaron's reaction. How often does that happen or did that

734
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: happen to you where you might change the play or

735
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 2: there's a subtle nuance with it. You got to pick

736
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: it up a signal or a word and they end

737
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: up running the wrong route.

738
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, communication out to receivers, especially in audible,

739
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 5: especially you know that was at a home game, so

740
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: that's a little different. But you know you're in a

741
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 5: dome and you I remember, yeah, I signal that Jerry

742
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: Wright signaling. He'd be like what what And You're like,

743
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: you know, you give a signal and he's like, I

744
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: don't understand, you know, And like he said, I mean

745
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 5: I throw all even like what we're supposed to do,

746
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I don't know, but I could just

747
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 5: tell where you're going. So I think the thing that

748
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: happens on the field very rarely does a guy turn

749
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 5: right instead of left, you know what I mean. Like,

750
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 5: but the subtlety of the route, especially and especially when

751
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 5: you're coming back the ball and protecting a quarterback from

752
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 5: interceptions because he as you throw a football, you need

753
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 5: people that understand that you need to be the first

754
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 5: one to it. Despite the fact that the route might say,

755
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 5: the line might say a certain thing. It's all those

756
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 5: kind of small, you know, adjustments, and that's why I,

757
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: you know, the West Coast offense really started this process,

758
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 5: and now I think Peyton Manning really extended it by

759
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 5: communication with the receivers that made it so that no

760
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 5: matter what happened, there was an adjustment that both knew

761
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 5: and subtleties. And now the game is very much about that.

762
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 5: And that's why Aaron Rodgers a Blurris for so long.

763
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 5: So I think Aaron expects himself to be perfect and

764
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 5: he expects everyone around to be perfect, and so some

765
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 5: of that reaction is pretty natural.

766
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: Which quarterbacks under the most pressure to win a Super

767
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: Bowl this year?

768
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: Well, in some ways, you know, Lamar Jackson because and

769
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, I don't know, Wow, okay, already we have

770
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 5: a list. I'd say Josh Allen just because Lamar's like,

771
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 5: they're not they're not they're not full full force yet.

772
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 5: So but the Bills and where they've been and how

773
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 5: they've how they've been really reverence representing the NFL in

774
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 5: excellence for a while. Josh is special, he does things

775
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 5: in the games, He's perfect for twenty twenty five.

776
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 13: He's the prototype Patrick and so, yeah, I don't pressure

777
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 13: is a funny thing because I don't think he feels

778
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 13: that necessarily, just feels like that's the next mountain to climb,

779
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 13: and we got it and I'm climbing it.

780
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 5: And that's why. How you It's not like I have

781
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 5: this weight on me and I can't wake up in

782
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 5: the morning and I feel like, you know, it's more

783
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 5: I can't wait to get to that mountain that I

784
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 5: haven't been able to climb, and I'm I'm I'm I'm

785
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: going to get there at this time. I'm gonna I'm

786
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 5: gonna be at the top. I'm gonna take the picture,

787
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: you know, the top of Everest with the flag in

788
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 5: the camera and in by four Minutes of Fame, it's happening.

789
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 5: And so I think I would say Josh is the

790
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 5: one that probably feels that the most.

791
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford a dinosaur. Is this the last of the

792
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: pocket passer?

793
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yes, And what way I say that is there's

794
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 5: you have to threaten the line of scrimmage. There's too

795
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: many free yards. Matthew learned the game in a more

796
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: sophisticated era and so he takes advantage of that. He

797
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 5: learned it when no one was opened, the middle of

798
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 5: the field was patrolled, and you know the death zone,

799
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 5: you know, fly weren't open all the time. People could

800
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 5: hit the quarterback however they wanted to do. He learned,

801
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: and so he's been taking advantage. He's he's abusing. That's it.

802
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 5: He's abusing the game today because uh, and that's why

803
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: Tom Brady wanted to play forever. That's why Peyton wanted

804
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 5: to play forever. That's why Drew Brees wanted to play forever.

805
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 5: You know, because they knew that they had a sophistication

806
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 5: that they could take advantage of it. And so, yes,

807
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 5: Matthew is the last of those guys that are around.

808
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 5: And I was, say Aaron Rodgers, those two of the

809
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: last that have been around in a more sophisticated era.

810
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 5: And now you know, but Aaron I was still the landscript.

811
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: So it's not the same. But the dinosaur is I'm

812
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 5: somebody that's going to throw the ball, so you know,

813
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 5: spectacular from the pocket, but I just can't get those yards.

814
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 5: It'll it'll eat you up over time. You can't. You might,

815
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 5: you might, you might be good. You might be grateful.

816
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 5: You can't win Super Bowls and and and dominate if

817
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 5: you're going to start in twenty twenty five as a

818
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: rookie and not somebody that will get those yards. It's

819
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 5: just it's it's too hard. You've made the derey of

820
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: difficulty like an Olympic dive, like it's it's you know,

821
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 5: it's what the fight? What's the hard dive? I can't

822
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: remember how they do it? What? Uh?

823
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: What's I look in your office and it doesn't seem.

824
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 14: Well, that's Christmas time. Let me what will we work?

825
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 14: It's like Santa Santa's workshop. Just let it, let it happen.

826
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 14: Why you have to start getting personal and like trying

827
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 14: to dig at me? Man, I'm just trying to get

828
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 14: stuff done.

829
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at you know, there's no football related

830
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 2: stuff there.

831
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: I didn't know you're what's right off my head?

832
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 5: What is this record? Okay?

833
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: Got a helmet? That's one thing.

834
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 5: Well, it's a museum. You want me to be like

835
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: an you're trying to dine in store me. I see

836
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 5: what you're saying. It's like we want a museum, so

837
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 5: we come in and a wax figure Like no, my

838
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: house is not. If you walk through my house, you

839
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 5: would not know I played. I'm not going to burden

840
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 5: my kids with that. Like you know, this is a

841
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: that's a helmet signed by all the Hall of Famers.

842
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: Seems kind of special. So we'll just wing that one out.

843
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, but when when your daughters, when they have

844
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: boyfriends who come over, those dudes want to see what

845
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: you're what you got here.

846
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: Let's not kid anybody.

847
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 5: I got the shotgun for that, I got I got

848
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: that up on the wall.

849
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, so you got your little shot there. Okay,

850
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: all right, you got a little helmet there. Well, that's

851
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: that's great. Congratulations on a wonderful career.

852
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you.

853
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: I could have I mean that's where I really.

854
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know my research staff they had your

855
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: plan for the Dodgers.

856
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 5: What I could have been, you could have been.

857
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: It could have been afore thanks for joining us.

858
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 5: As always, you're the best dancing buddy that is.

859
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: Steve Young