1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: Hello Marv, Hello Kelly. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Do you know that this new moon that we're about 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: to talk about, this Aquarius new moon is making waves 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: in the press. I feel like so many people are 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: talking about this month specifically, like February in terms of astrology, 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: but this is this new moon, like specifically, They're like, 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it just feels like it's going to 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: be a big one. So what is going on? 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Well, remember when I talked over the last couple of months, 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: we've been talking so much about Aquarius. But remember when 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: I said that the mindset and consciousness was going to 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: start changing. And if events are bringing this whole change 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: on to raise the level of consciousness, that for the 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: people that want to get raised. And it's dampening for 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: the people that are hung up on old, old patterns 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: of power and control, because that's going to be leaving. 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: When you say dampening, what do you mean like it's 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: just making everything feel heavier, it's harder to do that 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 3: kind of thing. 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's they're struggling and I'm speaking if we want 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: to speak specifically of a group will speak specifically of Maga, 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: but they're struggling to try to change history and try 25 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: to change the concepts of what went on and all 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: of that. I mean, a perfect example of that as 27 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: I read this morning, they're trying to introduce in the 28 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: House that Trump isn't an insurrectionist, trying to put that 29 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: into some sort of bill. But I mean, you know, 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: obviously it's going to fail. I mean, if he wasn't 31 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: an insurrectionist, why would they have to try to not 32 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: prove it wasn't. You know. So I think that this 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: new moon is going to really begin to start setting 34 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 2: out the Pluto that I was talking about, the aquarium 35 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: that I was talking about, the higher consciousness that we've 36 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: talked about, because it's Aquarius. So I mean, you know, 37 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Venus in Mars is the biggest deal this month, because 38 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: I remember when we talked about this two years ago. 39 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I was thinking, what this sounds wild? 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: Well, I mean two years ago it was about letting 41 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: go of old relationship patterns, and we've gotten till the 42 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: twentieth to right now let go of old relationship patterns. 43 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: The last related the last one was in Libra, so 44 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: we were trying to find objectivity in the past, and 45 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: of course now what we're doing in Aquarius is we 46 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: are we're trying to we're trying to come into balance 47 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: because everything when when you look at astrology, everything is 48 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: in pairs, and we're always trying to move to this center. 49 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: So when you see a chart, you see the center 50 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: of a chart, and it's usually got a bunch of 51 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: lines and all in it. But that's where the soul resides, 52 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: in the center of the circle, Okay, and so the 53 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: outside of that center is what we call houses. But 54 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: this is this is actually environment in our life. And 55 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: so what we're trying to do is we're trying to 56 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: balance out the polarity. Like the polarity of Aquarius is Leo. 57 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: And so you know, Leo is very subjective, Aquarius is 58 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: very objective. So we don't we want to get to 59 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: the place to where we can be in the center. 60 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: We can be objective in the with Leo. We can 61 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: still maintain our sense of individuality and are in our 62 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: our our uniqueness and creative self of personal expression Leo. 63 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: And so this is where all this high mindedness begins 64 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: and where all the soul kind of information spiritual stuff begins. 65 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: And so you know when you're saying when I'm when 66 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking about letting go of the old paradigm of Capricorn, 67 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: that's exactly what we're what we're going to start breaking 68 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: free of is the of that conformity of authority and 69 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: power and power structures over the last oh, fifteen years 70 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: or so, sixteen or eight, two thousand and eight. So 71 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: that would be what about what is that? 72 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: Well, don't ask me to do math. 73 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, Kelly, why I was supposed to pay 74 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: attention in algebra. 75 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: I'm paying attention to this, but I am not paying 76 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: attention at algebra. I wasn't never I had to get 77 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: tutored in algebra. My brain doesn't think that way. 78 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So about sixteen years we've been in this and 79 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: and then the last two years of the lib recycle, 80 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: we've been learning to have relationships and utilize relationships to 81 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: to objectify what's going on inside of us. 82 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: I love that statement because that's what they all are about, right, 83 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: and you talk about this all the time, but that 84 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: every person that comes into our life is mirroring something 85 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: within us, and it's an experience that our soul probably 86 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: needs in some way, shape or form to evolve, and 87 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: understanding that has just completely changed I mean kind of 88 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: my whole life, if I'm being honest, because once that clicks, 89 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: you start to look at things that are happening in 90 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: your life in such a completely different way because they 91 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: don't feel punishing or like ugh, why why is this happen? 92 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's just sort of like, huh, what is 93 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: this like showing me about me? The fact that I'm 94 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: here again, Like I wanted this lesson or this experience 95 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: for some reason, So what can I learn here? Anyway? 96 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: I love that. 97 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, and that's beautiful. You've explained it 98 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: very well. So you do pay attention to philosophy class. 99 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: That's my wheelhouse. Okay, know your still well. 100 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it really does come into this 101 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: new mood because I mean, think of what the Sabian 102 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: symbol I wrote this is the soul as a mirror? Yes, 103 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: this twenty one degree point of the new moon. Yeah, 104 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: the soul as a mirror. I mean, you know that's 105 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: just such a fascinating, little, teeny simple statement, right, But 106 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the soul is what is guiding 107 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: us and is going to guide us to be mirrored 108 00:07:53,280 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: and reflecting our our our inner selves onto the material world, 109 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: the physical the physical dimension, whether it's a bird or 110 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: an animal, or a tree, or even another human being 111 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: or an arpie's art or picture, doesn't make any difference everything. 112 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, think of that mirror of that 113 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: cellulite and it's you know, so I'm looking at the 114 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: cellulite you have in the in your room there, and 115 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, cleansing is so vital and so 116 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: important if we open up and allow ourselves to be cleansed. 117 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: And the cleansing comes in the objectification of who we 118 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: are by virtue of what we're experiencing. And so the 119 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: mirror the soul is a mirror feeding the emotions of 120 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: the soul in the absence of external support. You know, 121 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: it's really it's really interesting. I was working with a 122 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: client yesterday and I was I'm always talking to this 123 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 2: client about taking care of themselves as much as they 124 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: take care of everybody else. Well, that's cirrus, that is 125 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: the asteroid Cirrus, and Cirrus is all about our internal 126 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: and external growth and image of how we play into 127 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: this dynamic of objectivity it's the effeminine intelligence. So in 128 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: other words, cirrus is the principle of unconditional love and 129 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: the needs to give and receive nurturance and what we 130 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: need from ourselves and others to feel unconditional love and accepted. 131 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: And of course when you when you look at that 132 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: like that and for this person that was in the 133 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: twelfth house of spirituality and the unconscious mind, and the 134 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: answer is finding one source of nourishment through the experience 135 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: of oneness and unity. Oneness and unity that connects all beings. 136 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: Ministering to the needs of others without self sacrifice helps 137 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: with deep longing for wholeness and unity. I mean, does 138 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: that explain spirituality and aquarius and the need for relationships 139 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: and the brotherhood of unity of all humanity. 140 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: Yes, but without the self sacrifice which I love to you. 141 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: Without self sacrifice you see so many times, I mean, 142 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: I get a lot of clients, a lot of virgos, 143 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: especially because I mean their whole impetus is to serve, 144 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: and they do it to the exception of themselves. So 145 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 2: they're always putting out, putting out, putting out, putting out, 146 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden they get alone and 147 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: they go. Nobody loves me, nobody does for me what 148 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: I do for everybody else. I'm always doing for everybody else. Well, sometimes, 149 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: you know, the real truth of the matter is is 150 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: you got to give to yourself. And the way you 151 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: can give to yourself is through spiritual nurturance, through meditation, 152 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: through hypnosis, through through any number of things, sitting and 153 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: getting the vibrations, by working with auras and working to 154 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 2: raise that level of consciousness. That's how you give to yourself. 155 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: That's how you self nurture because you cannot be alone 156 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: and that in that atmosphere, right. 157 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 3: It's interesting because when you think about giving, I think 158 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: we always put it in a position of like, oh, 159 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: to give to others whatever, you know, like that's how 160 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: you show kindness, that's how you show love, and all 161 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: of that is so important. I think you've mentioned a 162 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: couple times how important that is moving into this aquarium 163 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: age in general. But for me, I know personally, if 164 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't give to myself first, which is that it's 165 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: just so cliche to say, like you can't give from 166 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: an empty cup kind of thing. But what you just mentioned, 167 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: like the meditation, any sort of thing like that, that 168 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: is what that is for and if I start my 169 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: day every day doing that and filling my own cup, 170 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: the rest of the day is left to give out 171 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: to other people. But if I skip that step, then 172 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 3: the self sacrifice happens. And by the end of that 173 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: same day, if I'm giving to people all day, there's 174 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: like a meltdown at the end of it, you know 175 00:12:59,200 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: what I mean. 176 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have to I express that constantly, 177 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: especially for people that are looking for relationships. I mean, 178 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: my standard, one of my standard answers is, I mean, 179 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: you know, love yourself like you want to be loved, right, 180 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if you don't love yourself, then 181 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: you I mean, how can you possibly say I love 182 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: I love somebody else and have that and have that 183 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: exchange of energy? I mean, because you know, everything we 184 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: are in totality goes out into the universe, and universal 185 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: law is that it returns back into us. Well, if 186 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: you if you build a wall so that you can 187 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: have self protection, which is a is what you're trying 188 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: to learn. How to accomplish is break down walls. With 189 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: Venus and Mars. You see, Venus is yours, I mean, 190 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: Mars is your desire to get love, joy, peace, happiness, 191 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: and harmony venus. So everything you do comes to a 192 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: desire to bring harmony into your life. And whether it's 193 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: when on the material side, the torus side, it's money 194 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: and housing and homes and cars and valuables of that 195 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: the material world offers. In relationship capacity, it's people that 196 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: love us or the people that we like to be 197 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: friendships with. It's people that we commit with. So it's 198 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's that commitment process and that's what 199 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: Venus mars is is coming into an alignment with ourselves 200 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: through others with that objectification. And so now that it's 201 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: coming into Aquarius, the thing we've got to watch out 202 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: for Aquarius venus mars is. I mean you know that 203 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: can they can get very very mental and yeah, I 204 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: mean you don't love in your. 205 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: Head, right, it's a feeling that's. 206 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: That's typically love given is a Leo than and when 207 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: you see a saturn in Leo, that is a person 208 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: that has come in karmically to learn how to get 209 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: how to take love from their head, from their thinking 210 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: mind and put it in their heart. So they got 211 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: to go through emotional struggles in in relationships so that 212 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: they can start feeling that emotional struggle with inside of 213 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: themselves that you know, so they can really start feeling 214 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: greater love. 215 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: Isn't that just wild? That that like to me when 216 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: you say it like that, it just I don't know 217 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: what is happening to me right now, but I'm having 218 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: this moment of just like how crazy that we like 219 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: come here to do all these things, and every situation 220 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: that we create in our lives is literally for our 221 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: higher evolution, like what you just described these relationships. Like 222 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: I think I've operated from the beginning point of my 223 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: life from this place of like I suck at relationships, 224 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: I will never find you know, the right guy or 225 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: the right romance or anything like that. But the reason 226 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: I've had all of the relationship experiences that I've had 227 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: have been for my own healing of some sort, even 228 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: if it was from another lifetime or whatever. Like it's 229 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: not like some punishment or that you just suck at 230 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: something in this lifetime. You know, I don't know why. 231 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: That's just like pinging me so big today. It's beautiful. 232 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean because I know for a fact you 233 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: came in to liberate yourself from relationships to get your 234 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: own individuality. So this is why you've struggled with relationships. 235 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: But you don't suck at relationships, right because I mean, 236 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 2: you know, you have a wonderful way of expressing the 237 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: emotions that other people can identify with that help them 238 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: to individuate, to help them come into a greater strength 239 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: of their own sense of individuality. So when you find 240 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: a relationship, it's going to be two individuals that share 241 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: equally individually, and it won't be in love in someone. 242 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: It'll be in love of someone and you double your 243 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: pleasures and divide your pains equally. Now wouldn't that be 244 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: a beautiful I mean, it's got to be around the corner, Kelly. 245 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: I know, Mars, I feel it all right. 246 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: And so as we look at this Venus Mars, what 247 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: we're trying to do. Now we're in balsamic period, and 248 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: so this is a letting go. So we've got about 249 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: another ten days that we can let go of how 250 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 2: we consciously think about relationships. Like you, I mean, you know, 251 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: if you're holding on to the fact that you suck 252 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: at relationships, well, then you need to spend the next 253 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: ten days saying I love me, I love me, I 254 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: deserve to have love in my life. Yeah, and then 255 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: so that would break down that whole subconscious fear of 256 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: being entrapped in a relationship that you've externalized and put 257 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: value in outside of yourself. So ultimately you have to 258 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: go through that whole process of learning that there is 259 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: no relationship outside of yourself that's going to give you value. 260 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: I believe that now. It's just taken me forty one 261 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: years to get there. 262 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: Well, Kelly, I've got two daughters that married at forty. 263 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: There you go, and they're very, very happy. Yep. That's 264 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: the big deal about the mean of Mars and that, 265 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: and it's just so important as we move into Aquarius. 266 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: It's because, I mean, you know, this is how we're 267 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 2: going to transform all society into a spiritual paradigm. Is 268 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: because we're going to start taking responsibility for others for 269 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: ourselves by raising our consciousness of how we've paired up 270 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: against others and caring about others as much as we 271 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: care about ourselves. There has to be an equal that's 272 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: an that's an equal job. You see, Leo is love given, 273 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: but Aquarius is love received. 274 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: Aquarius is love Okay, okay, so those are the two 275 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: balancing out right now? Yes, yeah, I mean, thank god 276 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: that we're moving into a time we're caring about others 277 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: is equally as important because and I don't know if 278 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 3: that was part of the Capricorn energy, but just the 279 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: individual striving and we've all done this, this is the 280 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: way our culture was, but it's just been so self 281 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: driven and self focused and self promoting and all of 282 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: the things. And I just hear so much of all 283 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: and for everyone and equality and all of that, and 284 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: every time in every conversation we have about Aquarius. 285 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're definitely moving into that time. Yeah, 286 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: And so you can see as we started out the 287 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: podcast that you said this is an intense new move Well, yeah, 288 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: it is, because it's the beginning of the transformational process 289 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: that will let go of the old Capricorn paradigm that 290 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: we've been building for fourteen years and longer in society. 291 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 2: And so we're letting that go, and that's we're observing 292 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: the breakdown of those of those elements of society and 293 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: in ourselves. 294 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 295 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: You know, I think I've got somewhere here in the notes, 296 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: but I was telling somebody the other day that you know, Aquarius, 297 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they cared just as much about nature as 298 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: they do people. They can be more emotionally involved in 299 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: their work more than they can people. But what my analogy, 300 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: wash would be upset if you tried to build a 301 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: home on top of an ant hill because those ants 302 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: have a right to be there. Now, that is very 303 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: aquarium concept. And so we live. I mean, you know, 304 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: look at all of the conservation and all of the 305 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: the influence of the weather and all of that, and 306 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: how we're trying to bring bring that b back into balance. 307 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: That you know, living on a planet that if we 308 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 2: don't start bringing it into balance, we ain't gonna live 309 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: on it. 310 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you try to deny what's Yeah, 311 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just it's there. You see it every 312 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: day somewhere there's some new climate crisis or war conversation. 313 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: There's just a lot going on right now. 314 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and see this is all about part of it. 315 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: So you know, And we've talked a lot about Pluto, 316 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: and so I mean, you know, think of I mean, 317 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: this whole new moon is is a Pluto new moon. 318 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: It's their conjunct. 319 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean a little bit. I don't really 320 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: get that. Can you explain the job saying like cause 321 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: that brings a pretty intense energy, right when you have 322 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: a conjunction. 323 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because it's it's a new energy. And to 324 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: really get a new energy, you have to do a 325 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: letting go dying process, don't you. 326 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: Yes, you do, which is. 327 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: Okay, which is Pluto. That's transformation of the soul, but 328 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: it's transformation of how you use energy as well. Okay, 329 00:23:52,480 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: And that's that's what you're That's what we're creating in life, 330 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: is we're creating the energy of events and people, experiences 331 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: in people. And so Pluto is going to bring in 332 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: this month a lot of experiences. And of course it's 333 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: conjunctive Venus Mars conjunction. So this is telling you right 334 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: there that we have got to let go of self 335 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: centered ideas and concepts, power and control and those kind 336 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: and values because it's this whole Venus Mars is squared 337 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: by Jupiter in Taurus. Well, that's our personal values are 338 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: what makes us happy? Well, what makes us happy doesn't 339 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: necessarily mean is going to make the partner happy. 340 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: Well, because this is something interesting that I learned in 341 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: my last relationship, is like we saw things through such 342 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: different lenses, which is not a bad thing. You have 343 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: awareness around that and you can speak to it. But 344 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: until you recognize oh wait, like they're seeing it through 345 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: something completely different and the world looks completely different and 346 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: both can be true at the same time. But until 347 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: you get to that, it's just going to continue to 348 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: be there's going to be conflict or divisiveness or lack 349 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: of empathy and understanding for other humans. Like it all 350 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: works together. 351 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, think about it. I mean, if you 352 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: married Kelly, Oh. 353 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: Jesus, that would be crazy. Imagine that. 354 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: Oh God, you want those people in your life that 355 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: see through a different lens and experience life through a 356 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 4: different lens, because those. 357 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: Are absolute exactly. 358 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: That becomes the objectification of enjoying the way they go 359 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: through life and process to life. That's the love of 360 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: the relationship, not in one right. And so that's why 361 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: we want that, And so we want the differences. We 362 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: want the the externals so that we can find that 363 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: balance and give equal love and receive equal love in return. 364 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: I mean, and that's so important in the whole aquarium 365 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: paradigm and process. And so I mean I love this 366 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: statement with the with the with the new moon, whereasays, uh, 367 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: we're trying to maintain harmony between one's projected image and 368 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: one's inner self. So the projected image is your personality 369 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: that you project out, Is that really in alignment with 370 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 2: who who you are? Or are you projecting what somebody 371 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: you want somebody to see? 372 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 3: That takes a lot of awareness, I feel, because I 373 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: don't know that we're always conscious of how we're projecting, 374 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: or I know I haven't been in my lifetime, and 375 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: so I'm projecting in a way maybe that makes me 376 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 3: feel safe, or it's what I feel like I can 377 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: expose to people, or I don't know, or it's just 378 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: this understanding. Sometimes I don't even think we are aware, 379 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: Like you're not even conscious. But then when you are 380 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 3: really conscious of it and you sit with yourself and 381 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: you go, wait, is that the truth of who I am? 382 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: Like social media is the perfect example, because we all 383 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: project these kind of false images of our lives, you know, 384 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean they're true, but they're only this tiny little 385 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: piece of it. And I've had to start really asking myself, 386 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 3: is this fully in alignment with who I am on 387 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: the inside? 388 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: Like? 389 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: Am I projecting the personality that's in line with who 390 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 3: my soul or what my self is? And means and 391 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: wants and all of the things. 392 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know that's really I mean, really 393 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: it takes practice, Kelly. And the practice is, uh, you 394 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: catch yourself projecting something that you know inside of you 395 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: is not who you really are. It's the authenticity that 396 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: I've talked about before. Are you authentically projecting your true 397 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: self how you're Whether it's emotionalism, whether it's thinking, mentalism, 398 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't make any difference when I get when you 399 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: get emotional, you start projecting it. Well, it's truth. You're emotional, right, 400 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: You're trying to find boundaries, You're angry, you're you're a 401 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: boundary defining, you're in love. It's all the same. 402 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 403 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: And so when you when you make up your mind 404 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: that you you're just going to be authentic no matter 405 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: what you are, where you are, and how you are, well, 406 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: then you do catch yourself when you start presenting something 407 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: to somebody that you aren't. And I mean, you know, look, 408 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: we all do it. I do it all the time. 409 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: You're probably still going. 410 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: To do not all the time, but something. 411 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's a human I think it's a human thing. 412 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: I just caught myself. 413 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: There, you go, right, it's not all the time. 414 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, and sometimes I mean you're 415 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: trying to counterbalance the person that you're talking to that 416 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: you know, might not even be at the level that 417 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: you're you're thinking at, but you're still enjoying, uh you know, 418 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: interacting with them what level they're at, right, And this 419 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: is what I try to get to people understand, even 420 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: if you're spiritualizing and other people aren't spiritual and I mean, 421 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: you know, look, even if you talk to a maga person, 422 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: there's still there's still a human being. They still got 423 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: they've still got a uh a God in them. And 424 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: so if you can play with them and have fun 425 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: with them in whatever little quarter of their life that 426 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: you can relate to, well, then that's what you relate to, 427 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: and that's all you that's all you need to relate to. 428 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: That's discrimination. Mm hmm. 429 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: I feel that energy big time that we've done the divisive, 430 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 3: we've done the them versus us versus, like hating people 431 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: because of their beliefs or things like that. And then 432 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: to me, right now, this age that we're moving in 433 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: and maybe or maybe this is just what I'm feeling, 434 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: but it is kind of what you said, where we 435 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: have to allow the space for people to have their 436 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: different opinions, and that's fine. Just like we said, you know, 437 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: people see life through different lenses, and thank God for that, 438 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: because how fucking boring would it be if we didn't. 439 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: We all saw through the same lens. But there's still 440 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: room to have empathy, compassion, kindness, all of those feelings 441 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: for other people, and like you don't have to sit 442 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: there and even try to convince them to believe your side. 443 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: I think sometimes for me it feels like the living 444 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: by example piece, where if we can show people those 445 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: those emotions, those kindness and the empathy and stuff, then 446 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: you don't know what's going to be reflected back to you, 447 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 3: but often it's those same things. And it's just interesting 448 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: to me that we've quickly ruled out people because of 449 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: certain belief systems, and maybe now we're kind of going, 450 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: wait a second, they're still human. There's still souls walking 451 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: on this earth, this planet. You know, how do we 452 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: like find some space and our lives for the good 453 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: emotions for them? 454 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 455 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 456 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: That's the other There's another statement that I've that I 457 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: really like with this new moon, and that is ultimately 458 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: to see oneself others in reality in general, in a 459 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: fundamental objective way. To accomplish that, one must simultaneously enter 460 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: and actualize the dynamic of deconditioning, which deconditioning is changing 461 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: our our reality, our our own subconscious minds of errors 462 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: and perceptions and perspectives that ultimately build on our coming 463 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: into alignment with who we really are. 464 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: Why there's a lot of subconscious mind talk in this 465 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: specific new moon. Is that related at all or is 466 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: it just kind of yes? 467 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: Because it's the subconscious is Uranus? 468 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I see the. 469 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: Ruler of the of the subconscious mind, so Uranus aquarius, 470 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: the aquarius. This is the content that's unique to the 471 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: unique to each individual. It's in the subconscious. You don't 472 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 2: know the subconscious until it's expressed outwardly and then you 473 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: get a chance to change it. 474 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: But how do you know what's okay? So what does 475 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: that look? 476 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: So you create the external circumstance that's created from the 477 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: from the subconscious so that you now it comes outside 478 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: of you, so you can object to seeing it outside 479 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: of you and then correcting, oh okay, your and perception 480 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: about it. 481 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 3: So it's basically like when I say to like one 482 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 3: of my girlfriends. Let's say, for instance, calls me and 483 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 3: they're in a huge fight with their boyfriend and they're like, 484 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: you know, dealing with something, but it's very clear to 485 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: me that it's really about their own insecurity and not 486 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: really what the boyfriend is doing. And I say to 487 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: my friend often like or in this hypothetical situation, I'm 488 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: obviously giving a real situation, I would say to my 489 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: friend something like, oh my god, this is amazing. This 490 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: is actually a narrative that you have in your brain 491 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: about you, like something that let's just say, she's insecure 492 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: about something I don't know. And it's like, no, that 493 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: is just coming out right now, Like this relationship came 494 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 3: into your life, this specific instance, this boyfriend, specifically in 495 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: his behavior, came into your life to reveal that narrative 496 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 3: to you because it's just ready to be healed. 497 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: So that's this right, Well, that's think about this statement here. 498 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: This is the subconscious is where Saturn and saturn is 499 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: the structure of your reality cannot deal with circumstances and experiences, 500 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: so it suppresses it into the subconscious mind it so 501 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: whatever gets suppressed or repressed has to come out, and 502 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: an objectification got it. It has to be, it has 503 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 2: to come out, it can't stay in. And so that's 504 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 2: what that's what we're liberating from the in the conditioning 505 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: deconditioning process. We're liberating from old satin turney and experience 506 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 2: and realities that aren't true. Somebody asked me the other day, 507 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: it says, why do we have an ego? Well, the 508 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 2: ego that creates the desires, that creates the realities that 509 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: we're being. You know that we're attracting in that are 510 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: much more of a Leonian thing that can be very 511 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: selfish and very self centered. So we've got to get 512 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: that experience so that we can understand that about ourselves. 513 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: And so the ego is what we use on this 514 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 2: plane of existence to deal with the realities and the 515 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: experiences that we desire to have and what we are 516 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 2: looking for. 517 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: That makes so much sense to me. So overall, you know, 518 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: as the listeners are hearing this, and I mean, I 519 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 3: know the new Moon is coming out. I think it's 520 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: in a couple of days. Is there anything in particular 521 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 3: like this overriding sense that you would kind of give 522 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: the listeners as like things to pay attention to you 523 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: that are coming up this week. 524 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: Well, I would say that anything all the activities that 525 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: they do that can get them into a higher level 526 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: of spirituality. And there's tons of things to do. Listen, 527 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: listen to the music from yesteryears from Bach and those 528 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: art and all those meditate, do self hypnosis, do art, 529 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: do drawing, do do all kinds of anything that that 530 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: is coming out of you that now can be expressed. 531 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: Art was one of the things that was that was 532 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: given in the aquarium language is to create artistry. I 533 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: mean art is really expressing what's inside of you, isn't 534 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 2: it into the external. So all of that is pretty good. 535 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 2: And then think about what this full moon says, perfecting 536 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: one's skills through disciplined practice. Well, that's what I'm talking about. 537 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 2: And so in the full moon, when we get the 538 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: full moon, we're going to have to look at that 539 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: and say, Okay, this is what it's showing me I 540 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 2: need to this is what I need to try to 541 00:38:52,840 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 2: discipline myself to experience. Is that authenticity, that spirituality, that 542 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: that caring for other people, that's all of that. You know, 543 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: the full moon's about trying to prove oneself, taking gambles, Well, those. 544 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: Two things the full moon. 545 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 2: Okay, well, see, because the full moon is going to 546 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: tell you what you've done for fourteen days at the 547 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: new moon if it's working or not working. 548 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 3: Coming up now, when we actually make the decisions, the. 549 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 2: New moon is going to come up in what looking much, Well, 550 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: it comes up on the on the well, the new 551 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 2: moon is the ninth. 552 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 3: It was yesterday, No, today's the seventh. 553 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: Is it? Oh? Yeah? 554 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the ninth is on Friday. 555 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 2: Which is already in the future. 556 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 3: Right right, So that's why I was saying, what do 557 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 3: you suggest to the listeners to like really pay attention 558 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 3: to this week, because. 559 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: Well, everything we've talked about, I mean, you know, this 560 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 2: is the this is the unfolding of spiritual consciousness and 561 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: the initiation into the higher order of life. So do 562 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: all the practices that help you achieve that, Okay, treat 563 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: everything as a personal responsibility of your your creation, and 564 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: do that musical and artistry and and meditation or vibration 565 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: or just read a spiritual book, anything that would take 566 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: you into a higher level of of consciousness. 567 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: Of spiritual nature. 568 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, go be in nature, right yea yeah, right, you 569 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 5: know what animals are coming into your life and what 570 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 5: is the symbols, what dreams are you having and what 571 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 5: is the symbolism? 572 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: I mean, all of those things are going to really 573 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 2: come up to be very very important, not only in 574 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 2: just this new moan, but in this whole aquarian age. 575 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 3: Can I just say something. I had a meeting a 576 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago and someone said to me, you know, 577 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: it's just not always that deep, and I was thinking 578 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 3: to myself, Oh, yes it is, but you're just not 579 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 3: paying attention, because I find that in life, if I'm 580 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 3: paying attention, there are spiritual messages everywhere, constant. 581 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: Everywhere, everywhere. 582 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 3: But if you think it's not that deep, you're just 583 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 3: not fucking paying attention. Like at the universe is talking 584 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 3: to you. So in yes, I'm not saying, like life 585 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 3: to me, that is still fun and exciting and light 586 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 3: and like there's so many the lessons and the communications 587 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 3: from the universe are always actually when I feel the best, 588 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 3: when I'm like in touch with that, so it doesn't 589 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 3: have to always be so serious, but it is always 590 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 3: that deep, by the way, just saying. 591 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, if you're just paying attention, 592 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 2: you're paying attention to this moment, You're in a spiritual 593 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 2: moment and everything is there. And if whatever your intention 594 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: is is to be aware. I mean I was talking 595 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: to somebody the other day about you know, just follow 596 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: your intention and that's what brings you into being aware 597 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: of whatever. I mean, if you want to see an aura, well, 598 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: it's like we were talking about in the beginning before 599 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 2: the podcast, if you want to see an aura, well, 600 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 2: your intention is to work on seeing or is Yeah, 601 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 2: so you practice it and so you know. This leads 602 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 2: to the statement that God only wants to know what 603 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: is your intention. That's all he cares about. And you 604 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: can only have attention in the moment. 605 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: So God only wants to know our intentions and then 606 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 3: presents the opportunities that line up with that. 607 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, God don't present the opportunities. 608 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 3: You do are Okay? We creator and yeah, reality, I see. 609 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 2: You're the creator, right, God is observing and growing and 610 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 2: evolving because you're growing, observing and evolving. I mean, God 611 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 2: doesn't get involved in your you know, your everyday life. 612 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't look at you getting mad at 613 00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: a traffic lighter and somebody driver. Right, she don't care 614 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: about that. It's all about sense. Yeah, what's your intention? 615 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: So you bring your attention back to attention. 616 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Marv, is there anything you want to leave 617 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 3: the listeners with for this new Moon? I mean, I 618 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 3: feel like February keeps being presented as it's going to 619 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 3: be a wild ride, But to me, it just sounds 620 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: more like staying closer in contact with ourselves and like 621 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 3: you just said, intentions and quiet, quiet moments with yourself, 622 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,240 Speaker 3: with the universe, things like that. But is there anything 623 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: else you would add? 624 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 2: Well? What? In finality? I mean, relationships are changing dramatically, 625 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: dynamically and powerfully. If everybody starts looking at when things 626 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 2: just seem to be occurring in a relationship of change, 627 00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: don't struggle against it. See what it's trying to say, 628 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 2: because relationships are going to be changing, Okay, And so 629 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 2: I think that's the most powerful take from this month's 630 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 2: new Moon and as we go into Valentine's Day and 631 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: all right, except except individuality in your relationships more than 632 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: you ever imagined. 633 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 3: Okay, I love that little bite. Well, if anyone wants 634 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 3: to do a reading with you, Marv, where would they 635 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 3: find you? 636 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 2: They can find me at Marvin at Astrobar. They can 637 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 2: email me at Marvin at Astro Marv and we'll all 638 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: be led to set them up. 639 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 3: Also, I should say, if you guys, I mean it's 640 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 3: the month of love, obviously it's February. And if you 641 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: guys are in relationships or you know, wanting to understand 642 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 3: your dynamic with a partner or a person even a friendship, 643 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 3: Marv runs sometimes these these are they called composites. It's 644 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 3: like when you do the two different charts together and 645 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 3: you can understand each way that the energies are playing 646 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 3: out in each individual's charts. 647 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we do what we call we do 648 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 2: two charts the sentistry, yeah, which we measure the measure 649 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: your energy with their energy, right, and how many energies 650 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,439 Speaker 2: you have that's interconnected, and then we may have made 651 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: then we can do a composite which is actually this 652 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: is the dynamic of the relationship throughout your soul's experience. 653 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like that we haven't been in 654 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: a relationship before, right, right, And that composite chart would 655 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 2: give the information of what we're wanting to accomplish in 656 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,959 Speaker 2: this particular relationship that will help us transform through our 657 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 2: past relationships and conditioning. 658 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 3: Right, So it kind of goes back to what we 659 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 3: were saying earlier, where each relationship is here to teach 660 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 3: us certain things. So it's helpful to understand some of 661 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 3: the energies to go, Oh, it's here to be teaching 662 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 3: me x y and Z. Anyway, it's really helpful. I'll 663 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 3: put all of Marv's information in the description of this podcast. Marv, 664 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 3: thanks for being here with us. 665 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: Oh it's been my fun. I hope you had fun. 666 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 3: I did, I always do all right, Thanks so much, Marvi, 667 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 3: and thank you guys for listening. 668 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 2: All right, Kelly, bye bye. 669 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, 670 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet in a 671 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty, 672 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.