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Speaker 3: dot com. Good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday. Have an amazing

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Speaker 3: show for everybody today. What do we have, Crystal, Indeed

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Speaker 3: we do.

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Speaker 2: Trump making some more wild comments about Epstein and trashing

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Speaker 2: his own supporters. We've also got some reaction to that.

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Speaker 2: Alex Jones is now wondering if maca Maybe is in.

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Speaker 4: Fact a cult. Yeah, he is, asking, he's going through it.

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Speaker 4: We'll share that with you.

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Speaker 2: We've also got some interesting pulling from some Republican polsters

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Speaker 2: in particular about how people are feeling about all of this.

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Speaker 2: We have some very significant international news. Israel bombing Damascus

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Speaker 2: an extraordinary escalation there really wild situation, complete siop. Effectively,

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Speaker 2: we'll break it all down for you what led to

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Speaker 2: this and what they're saying. Trump is flirting with firing

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Speaker 2: the Fed chair apparently brought a bunch of Republicans in,

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Speaker 2: reportedly even drafted a letter, but Jerome Powell remains in

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Speaker 2: place as of right now. Zornmm Dannie sits down with

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Speaker 2: business leaders in New York. Some interesting reaction to that

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Speaker 2: New York Times total whiff on another Democratic primorus is

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Speaker 2: kind of a funny and enraging the story all in one.

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Speaker 4: And we're gonna have.

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Speaker 2: Michael Tracy join us for a little little debate on

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Speaker 2: whether or not Epstein was an Intel asset. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to play the neutral moderator. Obviously like my side, but

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try to play the neutral moderator, so

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Speaker 2: it's just a one on one rather than you know,

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Speaker 2: stacking the deck against Michael Tracy.

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Speaker 4: But that should be a good one. He's going in.

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Speaker 1: I like Michael.

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Speaker 3: I personally think that he's being a contrarian for the

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Speaker 3: sake of it. But we will keep it respectful and

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Speaker 3: we will make it so that look, I just want

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Speaker 3: to what that case is. Personally, I think he's arguing

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Speaker 3: against a lot of straw man. But before we get

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Speaker 3: to that, thank you to everybody who's been signing up

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Speaker 3: lot of people coming in on the Epstein story, which

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Speaker 3: as much, you know, work on this as we possibly can,

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Speaker 3: We've got some interesting stuff that's coming up. I was

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Speaker 3: on the Flagrant podcast with Andrew Schultz. I think the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be fun.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go ahead and start with the Epstein story.

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Speaker 3: So Trump is at this point, what is it? Quinn

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Speaker 3: tippling down. Quin tippling down. I think Quintipple is the factor,

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Speaker 5: He's dead, He's gone, And all it is is the Republicans.

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Speaker 5: Certain Republicans got duped by the Democrats, and they're following

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Speaker 7: Appointing a special council to investigate the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you know, basically saying it's an Obama

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Speaker 3: The radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again, just

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Speaker 3: like the fake and fully discredited Steele dossier, the lying

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Speaker 3: hide Crooked Hillary's big loss than twenty sixteen election. These

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Speaker 3: It's all they have. There's no good at governing. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to continue now. Their new scam is what

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Speaker 3: we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And my

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Speaker 3: past supporters have bought into this bullshit in quotes hook line,

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Speaker 3: So he talks about his quote past supporters have potted

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Speaker 3: And I mean, look, the guy's making it as clear

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Speaker 1: I would say he seized.

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Speaker 3: On that along with a lot of the Maga movement

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Speaker 1: Like no one is saying that this is the most.

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Speaker 3: Important thing, but when you put it all together, when

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Speaker 4: Like a big shake up over there.

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Speaker 1: They just fired his chiefest staff with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest win they have is that people can

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Speaker 3: The McDonald's fries and the die coke and all of

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Speaker 3: just managing more international crises, which worked out well the

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Speaker 3: You know that the plane is pointed towards.

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Speaker 4: Iron Ukraine Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all in several weeks months.

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Speaker 3: Go all right, let's go and put the Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: about constitutionality and the level constitution, Yeah, twenty years ago,

435
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Speaker 3: John yu Was actually was a household name amongst a

436
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 3: lot of Americans because they're like, hey, fuck this guy,

437
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 3: just so people know who it is. So yeah, just

438
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 3: laying that out there in terms of who they It's

439
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Speaker 3: amazing to me how you can whitewash your reputation and

440
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: twenty years, you know, after authoring these memos and being

441
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 3: like a legitimate pariah in American society, and you can

442
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: you know, bring your way back and say, hey, by

443
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 3: the way, you know, actually, the autopen scandal is a

444
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Speaker 3: much bigger scandal than the Epstein thing.

445
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Speaker 1: I mean, the autopen thing.

446
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Speaker 3: Sure, okay, let's talk about it to the extent that

447
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,239
Speaker 3: it matters. It's really not about the Autopen itself. It's

448
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 3: about Biden's sinility. I'm fine with that. Okay, Fine, let's

449
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: you know, Biden's doctor, what did he pleaded the fifth

450
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Speaker 3: whenever he was before Congress. I agree, that's a huge problem.

451
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm totally on board. But you know, in the words

452
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Speaker 3: of Laura Lumer, who we are about to show up as

453
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Speaker 3: soon you can walk in chew gum. At the same time,

454
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Speaker 3: the Epstein one actually does seem a lot more urgent

455
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Speaker 3: for today considering all of his foreign policy implications.

456
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Speaker 1: Don't see a lot of people talking about that.

457
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Speaker 2: You know, it's one of the first times I really

458
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 2: have seen the Right and Trump specifically like try and

459
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: fail to change the subject, like usually very good at this.

460
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: They have like their media machine, the autopen thing's going

461
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 2: to be a scandal. We're just going to go in

462
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: and go in and go in and get people to

463
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Speaker 2: care about this, and it just hasn't really worked out.

464
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Speaker 2: So anyway, you've got that going on. You know, I

465
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Speaker 2: wanted to run something by you that I mentioned to

466
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Speaker 2: Emily yesterday. I think it was, you know, this moment

467
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Speaker 2: for Trump and the way he's asking his base to

468
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Speaker 2: completely repudiate something they believe five seconds ago. The thing

469
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Speaker 2: it reminds me of most is actually the grabber by

470
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Speaker 2: the P word moment, because I think at that time

471
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Speaker 2: you had these evangelical right Christians who were in the

472
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Speaker 2: tent who were a little leery of Trump. Anyway, Mike

473
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Speaker 2: Pence on the ticket, and this comes down and he's

474
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Speaker 2: asking them to turn on a dime from all their

475
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Speaker 2: outrage about Bill Clinton get a blowjob in the White

476
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Speaker 2: House and be in the moral majority and family values

477
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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah, to turn on a dime

478
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Speaker 2: and say, Nope, this is locker room talk and we

479
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Speaker 2: don't care.

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Speaker 4: And you know what they did. They did. Now, there

481
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Speaker 4: are some things that are different today. Number one, the

482
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Speaker 4: media media ecosystem is different.

483
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Speaker 2: His coalition is a little bit different, and he is

484
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Speaker 2: potentially maybe a lame duck depending on whether he tries

485
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Speaker 2: for his third term or whatever happens there. So there

486
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Speaker 2: also may be people who are looking past him and

487
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Speaker 2: thinking there's going to be a post Trump Republican party.

488
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Speaker 2: So that could create a situation that is different. But

489
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Speaker 2: you know, that is to me what rhymes the most

490
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Speaker 2: with this moment where he is asking his own base

491
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Speaker 2: to completely throw out the window long held core beliefs

492
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Speaker 2: just to back him up and go along with him.

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Speaker 4: It's almost like a test. The way that that.

494
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Speaker 3: Was the only reason I think it's is that well,

495
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Speaker 3: first of all, at that time, they basically had something

496
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Speaker 3: that he could offer them that nobody else would offer

497
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Speaker 3: where he literally said, I'm going to appoint pro life

498
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Speaker 3: justices to the Supreme Court and overturn roversus wad right,

499
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Speaker 3: So that's pretty different in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Also, it's a little different as well because.

501
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Speaker 4: The magasne sugar and the coke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I mean, that's not the same

503
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Speaker 3: thing that that was their Look, I mean at that time,

504
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Speaker 3: I know it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: That was their number one priority.

506
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Speaker 3: That's the only thing that a lot of these people

507
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Speaker 3: voted on was pro life.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

509
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Speaker 3: So that doesn't really exist this time around. They can't

510
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Speaker 3: offer them the same type of thing.

511
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Speaker 1: Even then.

512
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Speaker 3: I would say, if you look at the MAGA coalition

513
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Speaker 3: of twenty sixteen, the evangelicals were a small minority of it.

514
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Speaker 3: They were not the Magabase. There were the people who

515
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Speaker 3: came over and were reluctant to come in. Most of

516
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Speaker 3: it was working class whites who thought the whole story

517
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Speaker 3: was stupid and bullshit. So I would put it like

518
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Speaker 3: a little bit differently the Epstein thing. The reason why

519
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Speaker 3: I think it's different is, Look, it's also been a

520
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: long time since that. When was I start twenty sixteen,

521
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Speaker 3: So it's been seven years, right, so since that broke,

522
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Speaker 3: The Internet is pop culture now.

523
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Speaker 1: It was then, but it is like way more. It's

524
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Speaker 1: just different.

525
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Speaker 3: And that's part of the reason why I've been getting

526
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Speaker 3: annoyed when people are like, oh.

527
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Speaker 1: In the real world and all of that.

528
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Speaker 3: I'm like, guys, you know, the Internet actually is the

529
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Speaker 3: real world to a certain extent in terms of this

530
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Speaker 3: is the media now, Like this is where public consumption

531
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Speaker 3: is on TikTok's on Instagram, it's on YouTube. I can

532
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Speaker 3: guarantee you this is one of the most viral stories

533
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Speaker 3: that I have seen in years, and that not just

534
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Speaker 3: on this platform, on every platform. Yeah, and actually my

535
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: interview with Tucker has more views in the Iranian president

536
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Speaker 3: like that. That's what I'm trying to give people an

537
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Speaker 3: example of I've literally never seen. I got people reach

538
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Speaker 3: out to me who I haven't spoken to in ten years,

539
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Speaker 3: you know about this. My point is just that this

540
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Speaker 3: is capturing the attention of the country. Would I claim

541
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Speaker 3: that it is, you know, the number one issue or

542
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Speaker 3: anything again, absolutely not. But you know in the same

543
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: way that you're cartoonishly like asking people to move on.

544
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 3: And it's also you know, the other key to the

545
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: difference is that was before an election. That's when shit's

546
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Speaker 3: on the line. It's between Hillary and Trump. He's got

547
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: three and a half more years to go. In a

548
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 3: certain way, people who are speaking out are like trying

549
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 3: to have a corrective and a push on the administration.

550
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: So it's actually more like a power struggle in terms

551
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: of like who gets to set the agenda and who doesn't,

552
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 3: as opposed to look, we have two choices. Sometimes you

553
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: just got to hold your nose and vote for somebody,

554
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: like a lot of people also did for Hillary. But yeah,

555
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Speaker 3: I mean that's not a terrible comparison. I would really more.

556
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of anything else, and I can't

557
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Speaker 3: really because at the same time, you know, he ran

558
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Speaker 3: on releasing it, and it's not just him running on it,

559
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: it's the entire maga apparatus, right, And that's what makes

560
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 3: it so stark.

561
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Speaker 4: If you listen to him, right, he never cared that.

562
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Speaker 2: It was always very squirrely yes, And that Fox News

563
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: edit is now infamous where the way they edited his

564
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Speaker 2: response to WILLI will you release the Ebstein files was

565
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: just yeah, but then he goes yeah, well maybe less so,

566
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Speaker 2: and then he goes on to give a bunch of

567
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Speaker 2: reo privacy and I'm concerned about this and that and

568
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Speaker 2: the other of what he actually probably wouldn't and he

569
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: was like every time he got asked about it, he

570
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: was squirrely in the same way. But there is no

571
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Speaker 2: doubt that he flirted with, you know, all of those conspiracies,

572
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Speaker 2: including the q Andon conspiracy, which was sort of like,

573
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Speaker 2: you know, adjacent to this that was like the bullshit

574
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Speaker 2: made up version.

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Speaker 1: QAnon was weight dumber, of course.

576
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it goes with I'm saying, it.

577
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Speaker 2: Becomes you know, like this idea of Pizzagate, q Andon,

578
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein all gets lumped together as like all elite

579
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: pedophiles mostly Democrats are like running the world. And he

580
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: flirted with all of this stuff, and so he certainly

581
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: gave people the impression that he was going to be

582
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Speaker 2: on their side in this. He was going to be

583
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Speaker 2: the person the White Knight to ride in and expose

584
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Speaker 2: all of the you know, criminals and bring them to

585
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Speaker 2: justice whatever.

586
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Speaker 4: And then people in his movement like.

587
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Speaker 2: Dan Bongino, like Cash Mattel, like Jade Vance, they were

588
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Speaker 2: very explicit about the files are going to be released

589
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Speaker 2: and this is going to be a major priority.

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Speaker 1: And well he was explicit too.

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Speaker 3: He said, I think it was in his Lex Freedman interviews,

592
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Speaker 3: like yeah, I'm going to release all of it.

593
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Speaker 1: He literally said that.

594
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like there's multiple clips of Trump

595
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Speaker 3: of Jade, so the president, the vice president, the FBI director,

596
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Speaker 3: the deputy FBI director, the Attorney General of the United States,

597
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: multiple I mean, I can't even think of the rest

598
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: of the Trump surrogates if you think about that, like

599
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: people directly involved in the campaign, come on now, like

600
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: that that's part of what makes this so galling.

601
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Speaker 2: Well, and the people who to your point, who are like, like, oh,

602
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Speaker 2: this is in real life.

603
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 4: Nobody cares about this.

604
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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, we Americans don't care about some grand

605
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Speaker 2: sex scandal involving potentially the president.

606
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Speaker 4: And I think you think they don't care about that.

607
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: Have you met Americans and their talents.

608
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Speaker 1: Were you alive in nineteen ninety eight.

609
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: Ppular sensibility. I think they care. I think they're interested.

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Speaker 2: I think you've got their attention right.

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Speaker 1: If Lewinsky captured the I mean, Lewinsky was the.

612
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Speaker 3: Biggest story in the country for like eighteen months, just

613
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Speaker 3: so everybody remembers and also a little Lewinsky callback if

614
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: we all remember when Bill Clinton got into a war

615
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Speaker 3: with Serbia to distract the country from the Lewinsky scandal.

616
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: So these actually can have some pretty big ramifications.

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Speaker 2: Just saying before we go on to the other mag

618
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Speaker 2: I just want to mention that, you know, one more

619
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Speaker 2: item to put on the list of strange things that

620
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: are happening in the Trump administration. They just fired the

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Speaker 2: Manhattan prosecutor who handled the Jeffrey Epstein and the Gallaine

622
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Speaker 2: Maxwell case. Now this is someone this is Maureen Comy,

623
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Speaker 2: so it's actually Jim Comey's daughter. So in fairness, this

624
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: is someone MEGA has hated. And she also just handled

625
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: the Ditty trial rather poorly as well. But you still

626
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: have to ask why she's getting fired now when she

627
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Speaker 2: is the one who handled both Glaine Maxwell and Jeffrey

628
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Speaker 2: Epstein's cases.

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Speaker 1: She was the prob I agree that the timing is weird.

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Speaker 1: It's what I told you.

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Speaker 3: I was like, to be fair, like MAGA has hated

632
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: her for years. They're like, this lady needs to be

633
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: fired from the Department of Justice, and the Ditty trial

634
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: is like the best excus It's like you totally fuck

635
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Speaker 3: you know, you botch the entire case, and we're the

636
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: biggest with the biggest charges against him. You would also say,

637
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at not only the charges

638
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: of Epstein, but really against Glainne Maxwell in the SDN

639
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: Y like that, in my opinion, is more part of

640
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: the cover up than anything else. Yeah, because the way

641
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: that those the way that the case was set up

642
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: was so that it only implicated Maxwell and Epstein and

643
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: not everybody else. And they focus on these charges from

644
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: like nineteen ninety four whatever. So I don't know, I mean,

645
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: I don't think she's innocent, you know, in all of this.

646
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: But by the way, hey Marie, her name's Mareen, right, yeah, Mariene,

647
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: you're free now, all right, come, let's talk.

648
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: Let's give some interviews.

649
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: All right, don't just shut your mouth and become a

650
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: resistance hero. If you have some information, tell us what

651
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: you learned about the pressure from inside of the Justice Department.

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Speaker 1: Won't hold my breath.

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Speaker 3: Last thing here is just about kind of some of

654
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Speaker 3: the MAGA reaction. Let's go and put this up there

655
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Speaker 3: on the screen. So we got people like Laura Lumer.

656
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Speaker 3: She's of course standing with Trump. She says, Epstein is

657
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Speaker 3: one issue of many. It's while to me how many

658
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Speaker 3: people can't walk in chew gum at the same time.

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Speaker 3: You can ask for answers on Epstein, will also not

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Speaker 3: for allow it to consume. The only thing that you

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Speaker 3: speak about Trump is doing many great things on a

662
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Speaker 3: daily basis. He knows how to walk and chew gum

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Speaker 3: at the same time. But let's continue because there are

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Speaker 3: some other examples here. People actually, you know, pushing back

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Speaker 3: pretty hard.

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Speaker 1: Here. You got General Flynn.

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Speaker 3: General Mike Flynn, who is a former National security advisor.

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Speaker 3: He says, this is where his argument went on off

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Speaker 3: the rails. It is not about Epstein or the left.

670
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Speaker 3: It's about committing crimes against children. If you were part

671
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Speaker 3: of an intel operation known or run by CIA, shame

672
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Speaker 3: on them, and those responsible must be held accountable. If

673
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Speaker 3: there's any other country involved, then shame on them as well.

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Speaker 3: If there are leads inside of our country that committed

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Speaker 3: crimes against children, shame on them and they must be

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Speaker 3: held accountable.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the.

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Speaker 3: Next just to show people, you got some various different

679
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Speaker 3: like MAGA influencers and others. Here you have a Trisha Hope,

680
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Speaker 3: she says he just called supporters like me stupid who

681
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Speaker 3: spent ten years standing with him.

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Speaker 1: Through thick and thin. This is what he has to say.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe he is right, because I feel pretty dumb

684
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Speaker 3: for standing with him all those years, and I won't

685
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Speaker 3: be doing it again. Hashtag Epstein cover up. Let's go

686
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Speaker 3: to another one here. This is from Evan Kilgore. I've

687
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Speaker 3: been a loyal Trump supporter since twenty sixteen. I lost job, friendships,

688
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 3: been smeared, online docs, press charges on people who have

689
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Speaker 3: stocked and harassed me for supporting him. If Trump doesn't

690
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Speaker 3: want my support because I care about the Epstein files,

691
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Speaker 3: then I'm done by So you can see. Look again,

692
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Speaker 3: that's something I'm not ready.

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Speaker 1: To say yet.

694
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Speaker 3: It's like some gigantic civil war or any of that.

695
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Speaker 3: But it is certainly having some impact in support for

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Speaker 3: the president. And nonetheless, it's consuming all of tabloid media

697
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Speaker 3: and of political media at a time when you really

698
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: would want your attention focused elsewhere. That's a good transition

699
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Speaker 3: here to the polling intrap maga. So here I'm pointing somebody,

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Speaker 3: a guy named Rich Barris. I've talked about him here

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Speaker 3: on the show before. He is definitely more of like

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Speaker 3: a MAGA aligned polster. But one of the things that

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Speaker 3: Rich does, I think really well is try to keep

704
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Speaker 3: his finger on the pulse of the magabase of Trump

705
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Speaker 3: approval and specifically the Trump coalition. He looks at things

706
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Speaker 3: very similar to I do. There's the magabase, and there's

707
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Speaker 3: the Trump voter, there's the non traditional person. All of

708
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Speaker 3: these people kind of come together and became the Republican

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Speaker 3: Party in twenty twenty four, or at the very least

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Speaker 3: voters for the Republican Party. So here's what Rich had

711
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Speaker 3: to say about Trump's approval rating, how continues to go down,

712
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Speaker 3: and cracks within the coalition.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 6: As it stands right now.

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Speaker 9: The voter groups where Donald Trump is now himself starting

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Speaker 9: to hurt with those are the ones that republic needed

717
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Speaker 9: to bring into the fold. And just from the polling

718
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Speaker 9: this month, here are a couple of groups that need

719
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Speaker 9: to really stand out in people's minds.

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Speaker 6: Eighteen to twenty nine who voted for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: Though some of his biggest decline this month came from

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Speaker 9: that group, Hispanic men. All right, the groups where he

723
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 9: did increase are kind of funny, Steve. Those who have

724
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Speaker 9: a four year degree or more, right, and that's great,

725
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Speaker 9: perfect that help offset some of the decline with comp

726
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Speaker 9: with his core voter in his twenty four base. But

727
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Speaker 9: it doesn't matter because they're still voting Democrat at the

728
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Speaker 9: generic ballad by ten points.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, it just it's like a pointless.

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Speaker 9: Bump that's going to evaporate in a month or two anyway,

731
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Speaker 9: even if it lasts that long. They're just happy he

732
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Speaker 9: bombed a Ron for now, to be honest, and they'll

733
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Speaker 9: go back to disapproving of him.

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Speaker 6: And what will be left is a weakened base.

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Speaker 9: And that is something that people aren't understanding while they're again,

736
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Speaker 9: you know, attempting to browbeat all of these different groups

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Speaker 9: and a submission eighteen to twenty nine year olds don't

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Speaker 9: care about what's going on all the way around the

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Speaker 9: other side of the world. They didn't vote for him

740
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Speaker 9: for that. I mean, it's just a reac that people

741
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Speaker 9: are going to have to start to face. They're simply

742
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Speaker 9: out of time. They can't afford to continue to carry

743
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Speaker 9: on with business as usual. They had to convince these

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Speaker 9: voters that they were becoming more like Donald Trump, not

745
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Speaker 9: that Donald Trump was becoming more like them.

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Speaker 6: They're out of time.

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Speaker 9: I mean, so they are all these people, you know,

748
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Speaker 9: the clapping seals and the rest of them, They're going

749
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Speaker 9: to clap their way right into an utter defeat.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's the reality.

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Speaker 9: And by the way, this month, Democrats took lead on

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Speaker 9: the generic ballot for the first time in our polling

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Speaker 9: since Donald Trump's second presidency began.

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Speaker 3: I think that's actually a very good way of looking

755
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Speaker 3: at it, all with the younger voters, with the rest

756
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Speaker 3: of the types of the coalition. Also, let's think about

757
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Speaker 3: how there's been a great flip in political coalitions. What

758
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Speaker 3: did Democrats excel at even before twenty twenty four winning

759
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Speaker 3: special elections in midterms?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 3: Because it's highly educated, mostly like you know, upper middle

762
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Speaker 3: class people who love to vote and who are much

763
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Speaker 3: more civically and politically engaged. The rest of the people,

764
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Speaker 3: you know, the Hispanics and the young guys and all

765
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Speaker 3: these other guy, more working class folks, they only really

766
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Speaker 3: pay attention during a presidential election.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the time, they don't give a shit.

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Speaker 3: And that's a huge problem if you're walking into a midterm,

769
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Speaker 3: where what's the margin right now for the House two

770
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Speaker 3: three good luck, all right, Yeah, good luck holding onto

771
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Speaker 3: that one. And the Senate as well actually has its

772
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Speaker 3: own problems. So what he's pointing out are strips and

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Speaker 3: the political coalition, all of these things that make it

774
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Speaker 3: not only up for grabs that will alter the balance

775
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Speaker 3: of power. I also think everyone in Washington's to start

776
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Speaker 3: waking up to a reality of what does it look

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Speaker 3: like when one or two houses of Congress are controlled

778
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Speaker 3: by Democrats. I mean, I've talked about this with Doze,

779
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Speaker 3: but now with Epstein. Any enterprising Democratic politician would be

780
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Speaker 3: an idiot not to immediately announce an Epstein investigation on

781
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Speaker 3: day one of the you know, in twenty twenty seven,

782
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Speaker 3: and you know, by the way, impeachment and all of that,

783
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Speaker 3: that's already happening.

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Speaker 1: Like, don't even get me wrong on that one.

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Speaker 3: But my point is that the amount of political institutional

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Speaker 3: pushback showdowns with the White House from everything to funding

787
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: the government, to taxes to whatever, especially given the attitude

788
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: of the base, is basically going to be analogous to

789
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Speaker 3: how the Democrats were from two thousand and six to

790
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Speaker 3: two thousand and eight under George W. Bush when he

791
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Speaker 3: was also a lame duck president. With a very very

792
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Speaker 3: low approval rating. Bush got nothing through the House or

793
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Speaker 3: the Senate at that time. He was a pariah. They

794
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 3: hate in him. Congress basically sets through you on almost

795
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Speaker 3: every important decision.

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Speaker 1: That was happening.

797
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Speaker 3: That's going to be the political tenor of what those

798
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Speaker 3: last two years look like. They can make your life. Hell,

799
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Speaker 3: I mean every Trump appointee, I hope you have a

800
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 3: lot of money because you're going to be paying private

801
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Speaker 3: lawyers out the ass.

802
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Speaker 1: When you're testifying before Congress.

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Speaker 3: Like this is the reality that people are staring down

804
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Speaker 3: and the Republicans are just like, don't seem to care. Well,

805
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: Trump himself, I guess he never cared, but for personal reasons.

806
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Speaker 3: If he doesn't even care about the party, your own

807
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: presidency can be consumed by stuff like this and just

808
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: looks more real every single day that we go forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Republicans just pretty much assume

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Speaker 2: they're going to lose the House at this point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but too yeah like you, Yeah, it's a big difference.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it would be possible at this rate. I

814
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Speaker 4: just saw a poll.

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Speaker 2: You know, Virginia, New Jersey have their gubernatorial elections this year,

816
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Speaker 2: the off year, the Virginia one in particular is typically

817
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Speaker 2: seen as a bell weather and you've got a really

818
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Speaker 2: lame Democrat, Abagail span Berger. She's like a former CIA. Anyway,

819
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Speaker 2: I'm getting those ads at my house and they're.

820
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Speaker 3: Terrible, But my neighborhood is all in for span Burger.

821
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Speaker 3: Signs everywhere, So apparently the whole state is.

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Speaker 2: Because I just saw a pull that has her up

823
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Speaker 2: twelve points, twelve points on within the series who's the

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Speaker 2: current you know, elected statewide officials to.

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Speaker 3: Be young him by two points. That's a fourteen point

826
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Speaker 3: swing in five years. That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Like, so we'll see how that goes.

828
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Speaker 2: But I think Abigail span Burger's got to be filling

829
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Speaker 2: pretty good about where she stands at this point. The

830
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Speaker 2: other thing I was thinking about listening to Rich Barris

831
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Speaker 2: talk there is where was Trump's strength. His strength was

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Speaker 2: with low information voters always the type of people who

833
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: aren't listening to the show or watching Ciena entering and

834
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Speaker 2: watching Fox News. The type of people who are watching

835
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Speaker 2: like Theovonn's podcast. You know, Andrew Schultz or Tim Dillon

836
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Speaker 2: or Joe Rogan or whatever. While they're you know, doing

837
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Speaker 2: their job or driving the uber shift or whatever. And

838
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: to the contrary of the people who want to say, oh,

839
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Speaker 2: real people don't care about this, this is actually a

840
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Speaker 2: story that really penetrates me.

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Speaker 1: It's easy. It's the easiest one that.

842
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: Gets completely penetrates pop culture. I mean, all the late

843
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: night shows, of course, are all over it.

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Speaker 1: Shane Gillis hosted the last Night Epstein and it killed kill.

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Speaker 4: Like you don't think people know about this, Give me

846
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Speaker 4: a break.

847
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Speaker 2: This is exactly the sort of issue that actually breaks

848
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Speaker 2: through with low information voters, the very people who were

849
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Speaker 2: the ones who put Trump over the top last time.

850
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Speaker 2: So you know, I think there has already been a

851
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Speaker 2: lot of erosion with Trump among people who are really

852
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: paying close attention and who were you know, independence and

853
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: they voted for him, but they weren't sure about it whatever.

854
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: I think you've already seen that erosion. But this cuts

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Speaker 2: deeper because it does go to just pop culture and

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00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: the sense of this guy. First of all, what is

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00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: going on here, like what are you doing and why

858
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: are you acting this way?

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00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: And what is actually going on?

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Speaker 2: And second of all, you just lied to us to

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Speaker 2: get a light like you are you betrayed this notion

862
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: that you're gonna be the outside or come in and

863
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: clean up things like total and complete bullshit. And look,

864
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Speaker 2: it has always been bullshit, but this is such a blatant,

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Speaker 2: obvious betrayal of how he positioned himself that it becomes

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Speaker 2: impossible to ignore and to spin if you have a

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Speaker 2: shred of integrity.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree.

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Speaker 3: Let's also put this next one up here. This is

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Speaker 3: from Mark Mitchell, who works over at Rasmusen And you know,

871
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: I follow these guys because I mean, look, you can

872
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: say a lot about biased polsters and all this, but

873
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: one of the things I like about, you know, following

874
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Speaker 3: the quote bias polsters, is that some of them actually

875
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Speaker 3: do have some integrity. And here, like this is from Rasmussen,

876
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: you know, one of the most Republican leaning polling outlets

877
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Speaker 3: out there.

878
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Speaker 1: And here's what Mark Mitchell has to say. Update. Looks

879
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: like Trump approval has bottomed for.

880
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: The second for the for the second term, and what

881
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: he and Rich and these guys are warning about is

882
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: just the absolute destruction that Republicans face in the midterms,

883
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: but again, more importantly for Trump and his coalition in

884
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: the future for whatever that looks like. The other thing

885
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: is is like, let's say that Trump is a lame

886
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: duck and he's done. Everyone's like, oh, he's not going

887
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: to care. I genuinely don't believe that. I think he

888
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: will be the most interact till the day he dies.

889
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: He will be a god king of the Republican Party.

890
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: It would be as if Ronald Reagan, who I guess

891
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: kept his mind, you know, after he left his presidency

892
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: and continue to wield his influence. Now, Reagan, you know,

893
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: not only from his own personal issues, but believed in

894
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: norms even though I know that's cringe and was like, no,

895
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm an old man, George, take the reins.

896
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: You can do whatever you want to do. I'll respect that.

897
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: You think Trump is going to be sitting down in

898
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 3: mar A Lago. Let's say jad gets elected. He's gonna

899
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: have to go down there once a month, all right,

900
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: to get Trump truth socials and all this other stuff

901
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: to back him up. Because at the end of the day,

902
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 3: the loyalty does not transfer. We've seen that a million times.

903
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: There's affection, but not the loyalty. And so for him,

904
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: like if you continue to diminish and just bring things

905
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: down to a Maga type coalition. You put every future

906
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 3: Republican in such a dangerous position where they can't piss

907
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: off Trump, but to win they can't also you know,

908
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Speaker 3: go in the direction that in the loyalty that he demands,

909
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Speaker 3: which increasingly that seems like what he's likely to do,

910
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: of course, could be wrong. On least seven six, seven

911
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: months or whatever into the first Trump administration, things can

912
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Speaker 3: go in all kinds of different directions. Remember, it's only

913
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Speaker 3: what July. I mean, Biden's presidency didn't really bottom out

914
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Speaker 3: until October, so there's still a long way.

915
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Speaker 4: To go, you know, it's like a few months.

916
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still got months and months to go. But

917
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Speaker 3: things seem to be on track, you know, for.

918
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Speaker 1: Where we are right now. We don't know what the

919
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: future looks like.

920
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, like they need to pray for several things.

921
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Speaker 3: We'll talk soon about the FED and all of that.

922
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: They need lower rates, they need a lot more housing,

923
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: and they need inflation to go down, and they need

924
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Speaker 3: a stock market to remain up. They've accomplished I think

925
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Speaker 3: one out of four of those. So like you need

926
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Speaker 3: to land the plane, especially in the next two and

927
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Speaker 3: a half years and I just don't see a path forward.

928
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Speaker 2: I think it's also I agree with you that the

929
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: idea Trump is just going to go away ridicularly of

930
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: a quiet life of Marlowe. Okay, please, like, look at

931
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: who this man is. Even if he doesn't technically run

932
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Speaker 2: for a third term, it will be his party until.

933
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Speaker 4: The day he absolutely, that's just how it is.

934
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Speaker 2: And the other thing that is I think increasingly clear

935
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Speaker 2: both as you see you know, the warring factions over

936
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Speaker 2: Iran and over Ukraine and now over Epstein. He is

937
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: the only person who can hold this coalition together. He

938
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: is the only one that can do it. And we

939
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Speaker 2: you know, there's there's some similarities there with Obama actually,

940
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Speaker 2: where he never was able to translate his popularity over

941
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Speaker 2: to other Democrats and over to the Democratic Party more broadly.

942
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Speaker 2: And I think it's the exact same thing with Trump.

943
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: You know, when he's not on the ballot, Republicans have

944
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: been losing an election after election after election. So you know,

945
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: the idea that he's going to be able to just

946
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Speaker 2: bequeath his popularity and his coalition to JD. Vance or

947
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: even his own son or whatever, like I think that

948
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: is there's there's just no chance that he's that they're

949
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: able to pull that up. I totally agree, because no

950
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: one else is Donald J. Trump and that's just.

951
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: How it is.

952
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: Look remember Obama literally was like, you need to act

953
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: like I'm on the ballot in twenty sixteen. People were like, yeah,

954
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm good, actually, so you can try it never basically

955
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: never works.

956
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

957
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very very worn lesson too. Yeah, I

958
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: literally done. Yeah.

959
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: In that election, Obama basically killed that Biden. I think

960
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: at that point, you know, he was at his peak,

961
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: he would have been a much better.

962
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Speaker 4: Candidate than Hillary.

963
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: He's had a better he did have a better touch

964
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: with working class people. He was more closely affiliated with

965
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: Obama that people had you know, warm fuzzies about at

966
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: that point. But anyway, I mean, the point is just

967
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: that he got his chosen successor. He did what he

968
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: could to put her across the finish line. And it's like,

969
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: no way, even though I think if it was Obama

970
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: who was on the ballot again, he would have probably

971
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: won it.

972
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: I've done so many mologs about that, and people could

973
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: pull him from five six years ago.

974
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: I have all those clips, all all.

975
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: The times that Obama was like, you need to act

976
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: like I'm the person running on the ballot, and people

977
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 3: were like, yeah, actually, I'm good.

978
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: All right.

979
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: Turning now to Syria, some extraordinary developments Israel bombing the

980
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: capital of Syria after major violence breaks out in Sweda Province.

981
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to all of the details. Well, let's

982
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: just take a look at some of the video. I mean,

983
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: it's absolutely extraordinary. You're watching a Syrian newscaster there broadcasting

984
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: alive from the capital. After right behind her you can

985
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: watch Israeli air strikes in the middle of Damascus.

986
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, these are not secret strikes like normal.

987
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 3: These are claimed and public proclamations from the IDF, including

988
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 3: the command and control network of the Syrian General Staff

989
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: as well as the Syrian presidential Palace.

990
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: So you're watching just.

991
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: I mean, this is wild, like out in the open,

992
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: and you may ask, so, what the hell is actually

993
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: going on here?

994
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 10: Now?

995
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: I've done my best to It's very, very complicated, So

996
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: everybody stick with us in terms of the exact TikTok

997
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: of how this all went down, we got to start

998
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: at the very very beginning. You'll remember that the Asad

999
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: regime fell well after the Osad regime fell, the Israeli

1000
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: government claimed a quote indefinite presence inside of Syria past

1001
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: the Golan Heights, further expanding their borders. Basically, the justification

1002
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: was they need to protect their own border at the

1003
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: Golan Heights as well as the Druze population, who they

1004
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: have long had a close relationship with.

1005
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's put things out that way.

1006
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: That's ever since the Israeli government or the Asad regime fell,

1007
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: and now the new power al Qaeda is in charge

1008
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: of the state. After al Qaida kind of came into

1009
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: power of the state, there has been a tacit alliance

1010
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: between the Israelis and al Qaeda. They met recently. There

1011
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: was supposed to be normalization between the two governments. Much

1012
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: of the sanctions from the US government were taken off,

1013
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: so everything seemed to be on a road of normalization

1014
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: and of a tacit agreement where the new out Taida

1015
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: government is going to recognize Israeli sovereignty over this new portion.

1016
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: All right, so let's start there.

1017
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: However, the Druze population, of course is allied with Israel,

1018
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: and there's also been calls within Israel to basically further

1019
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 3: their attacks on the Syrian government, and all of this

1020
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: kind of came to a head in the last couple

1021
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: of days.

1022
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: So let's start with this. Let's put this up there

1023
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: on the screen.

1024
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: So late on July eleventh, Bedouin gunmen ambushed a vegetable

1025
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: truck on the Damascus to wait a highway, beating the

1026
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: driver and stealing the truck in its contacts. The next day,

1027
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 3: Drew's gunmen kidnapped eight Bedouins as retaliation, triggering the Bedouin

1028
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: gunmen to kidnap five Drews in response.

1029
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: By the way, this is what a lawless state looks like.

1030
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: So next July twelfth saw a flurry of quote tit

1031
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: for tach kidnappings, amid attempts by local notables to negotiate

1032
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: a calm down. Tensions and conflict between these clans and

1033
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: the Drews date back for years, tied to drugs and

1034
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: the weapons trade, control of smuggling rounds, and land ownership.

1035
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: On July thirteen, negotiations break down. Armed conflict erupts in

1036
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 3: sueda between Bedouin clans and Druze militias. Drews delicious start

1037
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: getting shelled. Bedouin areas are besieged, thirty people are dead

1038
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: one hundred are injured in twenty four hours. All right

1039
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: now continuing on July fourteenth, after attempts to mediate talks,

1040
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: Syria's new government intervenes. These are al Qaeda forces right

1041
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: deploying military and Interior ministry forces into Suita to quote

1042
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: enforce order and put an end to the.

1043
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: Internal fighting.

1044
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: Then as these new government forces, the al Qaeda forces,

1045
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: enter the city, they are ambushed by the Druze militiamen.

1046
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: Ten soldiers are rounded up, executed and used for celebratory photos,

1047
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: and eight other soldiers are taken hostage, stripped and marched

1048
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: to a nearby village in their underwear. All of them

1049
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 3: are believed to have been dead. Now that's when shit

1050
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: really kicks off. Intense fighting ensues. Government forces advance into

1051
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: the city. The Druze militia starts shelling the Bedouins, killing

1052
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: a child, apparently a photo of which gets sent around

1053
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: everywhere in terms of anti Sunni Makri.

1054
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Speaker 1: This is all according to Charles Lister.

1055
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Speaker 3: He's a long time Syria analyst and he speaks that

1056
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: language as well and has translated all this. Then what

1057
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: happens is quote as fighting rages on, Israel begins drone

1058
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Speaker 3: strikes there first, targeting the Syria militia, armored forces, and

1059
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 3: pickup trucks of the Interior Ministry. So eventually what happens

1060
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 3: is that there's a negotiated ceasefire on July fifteenth between

1061
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: the Drews, the Christian and the Civil Council. WU invited

1062
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: the government forces to secure order. However, one Druze cleric.

1063
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Speaker 1: I'm not even going to try and pronounce his name.

1064
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: He is allied with Israel, and he's the person who's like, no,

1065
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Speaker 3: we're not doing that, and that's when the Israeli strikes

1066
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 3: start to go into full effect. Israel strikes not only

1067
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: the Syrian government basically saying hey, I'm the boss here,

1068
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Speaker 3: you do what we tell you to do. Some Drews,

1069
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Speaker 3: IDF soldiers and others start flooding to the Israeli Syrian border.

1070
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Speaker 3: They tried to smuggle weapons and to go into Syria.

1071
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Speaker 6: It's basic.

1072
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Speaker 3: Basically, what they were trying to do is instigate like

1073
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Speaker 3: a full on rise up and have complete autonomy over

1074
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: there that Israel has control over. Many of them were

1075
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: actually raising the Israeli flag.

1076
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Speaker 1: Over the territory.

1077
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Speaker 3: So this is all the reason I went through exactly

1078
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Speaker 3: that is, if you were looking at the Israeli version,

1079
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Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, the Syrian al Qaeda forces

1080
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: just came in and they're massacring all these drews. It's

1081
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: a little bit more complicated than that, isn't it, because

1082
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: they came at the invitation of the interior forces. But

1083
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Speaker 3: this one Druze cleric and militia leader who's allied with

1084
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Speaker 3: Israel was like, no, we're not doing that, and actually

1085
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: we need Israel to come in and show the new

1086
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: Syrian government whose boss. All of that escalates to the

1087
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: point where they're you know, bombing the presidential palace. Now

1088
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: let's just display, like, let's diminish this. They're like, oh,

1089
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: we're doing it to prevent They literally said, we're doing

1090
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: it to prevent a genocide. Asad killed how many people

1091
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: in Syria over the last fifteen years, how many hundreds

1092
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: of thousands were slaughtered? Okay, you know you didn't do

1093
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: anything at that point, like you give a shit about

1094
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: humanitary situation in Syria.

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00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: Give me a break, all.

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00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: Right, this is about control, it's about territory, and really

1097
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 3: it's about telling the Syrian al Qaeda government, you answer

1098
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: to us. You don't even get to you're not even

1099
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: allowed to enter our allies territory without US coming and

1100
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 3: bombing the shit out of your capital site.

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Speaker 2: A crazy thing is that this Syrian government had already

1102
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: basically been like.

1103
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 4: You're right, we answer to you exactly. You can take

1104
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 4: over the goal On but it's not enough. The guy

1105
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: who lead.

1106
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: Syrian now is literally from the goal On High, I know,

1107
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: and he's like effectively seated the territory to Israel. I mean,

1108
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: there's a reason why the Trump administration dropped the sanctions

1109
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: on him and redesignated HTS, which was his organization. It's like, oh,

1110
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: they're totally not terrorists any war. It's because they were

1111
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: playing ball and doing everything that America and Israel wanted

1112
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: them to do. But it is still not enough for

1113
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: the Israelis. They want it to be a completely failed state.

1114
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: They want to be able to take over and see

1115
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: whatever territory they possibly can. And so there using the

1116
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: pretext of this effectively like ethnic strife, which is the

1117
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: apparently the tensions between the Bedouin and the Drus in

1118
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: this area is in fact long standing. Now that you

1119
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: have this also you know, civil war now leading to

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Speaker 2: this takeover and this power vacuum.

1121
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure that creates.

1122
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: Even more possibility for escalation of that ethnic strife. And

1123
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: so they're using that as a pretext to come in

1124
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: and just directly bomb Damascus and bomb the Syrian government.

1125
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: It's crazy on the you know what was going on

1126
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: there with the government negotiations and them coming in and

1127
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: trying to assert control. I mean, you have to keep

1128
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: in mind here, this is a new government. They are

1129
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: trying to assert control over their territory. So they come in,

1130
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: they actually negotiate. There were multiple ceasefires that were dotiated

1131
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: that everyone agreed to except this one dude was pro

1132
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: to be the like Israeli planned. And then as soon

1133
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: as he flows up the negotiations, lo and behold, Israel

1134
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: comes in with their bombs. So that's the reality of

1135
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: what's going on here. And yeah, I mean the lesson

1136
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: you have to take is like, there's no working with

1137
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: these people. There's no even if you give them everything

1138
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: that you think that they want, things that should be

1139
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: really outrageous and off the table, even if you do that,

1140
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: it does not matter. So what is this now? The

1141
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 2: Ninth Front in the Israeli war. And I have seen

1142
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: some people even who are like pretty pro Israel being

1143
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: like what are you doing? Like we were with you

1144
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: when you were bombing the Palestinians because they're obviously evil

1145
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: and hate you whatever, but like, what is going on here?

1146
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: Why are you How does this make sense? How is

1147
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: this that all justifiable? And the truth is because they

1148
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: completely act with no accountability, with utter impunity. They just

1149
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: feel like they can take over and do whatever they

1150
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: want because they have been able to do that up

1151
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 2: to this one.

1152
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the point. The point is is that, look,

1153
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: no one's saying this is a new front war. The

1154
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: point is is.

1155
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: Just that they are allowed by us to come in

1156
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: and do whatever they want to do to every single

1157
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: one of their neighbors, and we're going to back them up.

1158
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: And if you want evidence of that, here's the response

1159
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 3: from the US State Department where they call on the

1160
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 3: Syrian government. According by the way, they're the ones who

1161
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: recognize the government, and they tell the government, you need

1162
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: to withdraw from your own territory so that.

1163
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: We can rereach a negotiated solution. Let's take a.

1164
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 11: Liston has the US asked Israel to halt strikes on Syria.

1165
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 12: I cannot speak to specific conversations or the exchanges diplomatically,

1166
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 12: and we are calling on the Syrian government to in

1167
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 12: fact withdraw their military in order to enable all sides

1168
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 12: to de escalate and find a path forward. And I

1169
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 12: think that that's obviously the goal. Because of the nature

1170
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 12: of what's happened and the Secretary's phrasing that this was

1171
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 12: a misunderstanding, he's optimistic that this can be achieved.

1172
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 13: So you said, you're looking for an Israeli withdrawal and

1173
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 13: Assyrian government.

1174
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 4: Withdrawal from the area.

1175
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: Can you be more explicit about it?

1176
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 12: I can't.

1177
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: I can't, right, So okay, got it, and let's go

1178
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: in and put Netanyahu's statement up there on the screen.

1179
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 3: He says, might Drews, brothers, citizens of Israel. The situation

1180
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 3: in Sweda and Southwest is dire. The idf air forces

1181
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: are in action. We are working to save our Drews

1182
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: brothers and eliminate regime gangs. I have one request for

1183
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: you. You are Israeli citizens, do not cross the border. You

1184
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: are putting your lives to remember, I was telling you

1185
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: there are a lot of Drews who are crossing the

1186
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: border with weapons. By the way, some of it appeared

1187
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 3: to be facilitated by the IDF, but they're like, oh, actually,

1188
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 3: you're hindering our efforts, basically saying don't go there, because

1189
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: actually we're bombing it right now.

1190
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: Here.

1191
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: We have Secretary of State Marco Rubio who was asked

1192
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: about it, and his response is, look, this is a

1193
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: centuries old conflict. That's what this is all about. Let's

1194
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: take a listen.

1195
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: I think I'll ask Marco to say a few words

1196
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 5: in Syria.

1197
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's complicated. Obviously, these are historic, long time rivalries

1198
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 11: between different groups in the south west of Syria, Bedwins,

1199
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Speaker 11: the Druz community, and it led to an unfortunate situation

1200
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 11: and a misunderstanding, it looks like, between the Israeli side

1201
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 11: and the Syrian side. So we've been engaged with them

1202
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 11: all morning long and all at night long, with both sides,

1203
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 11: and we think we're on our way towards a real

1204
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 11: de escalation and then hopefully get back on track and

1205
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 11: helping Syria build a country and arriving at a situation

1206
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 11: there in the Middle East is far more stable. So

1207
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 11: in the next few hours, we hope to see some

1208
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 11: real progress to end what you've been seeing over the

1209
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 11: last couple.

1210
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: Hours, centuries old conflict.

1211
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 3: It's like, guys, as I just laid it out, it's

1212
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: actually not complicated at all, you know, it's really not

1213
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 3: It's like what happened is is, Yes, there was some fighting,

1214
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: and then this pro Israeli guy said no, I don't

1215
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 3: accept that and asked the Israeli government, which they did,

1216
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: to send her message to the new Syrian government that we're.

1217
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: In charge actually of your country. I mean, I don't know.

1218
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: It's like, who do you even root for in there?

1219
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: We got al Qaeda on one side, you got an

1220
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 3: idf r R on one side. I'm like, okay, well, glad

1221
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm complicit in all this, you know, because it's just

1222
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: so ridiculous. And by the way, on top of all

1223
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 3: of that, beating Netanya, who is on trial in Israel,

1224
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: you might forget, don't worry. The United States actually sent

1225
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: our ambassador Mike Huckabee to the courtroom to express their

1226
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: support for Netanyahu's government. Extraordinary. Let's put this up there

1227
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: on the screen. What do you think he did? Whenever

1228
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 3: there were strikes on Syria, he said, hey, guys, I'm

1229
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: involved in this military operation in Syria, and that's why

1230
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 3: the trial needs to adjourn.

1231
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Oh got it.

1232
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's only the fourth time or

1233
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: so now that you have had the trial postponed because

1234
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 3: of military action.

1235
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: And I'll read some headlines.

1236
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: June twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, Prime Minister's lawyers till

1237
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: court Nayawho can only testify in a corruption trial.

1238
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: Later on.

1239
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: In March of twenty twenty five, prosecutors canceled net Yahu's

1240
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: testimony and coruption trial amid renewed Gaza assault. March eighteenth,

1241
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Court let's net Yaho skip testimony next

1242
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: week for US trip July second, twenty twenty five. July seventeenth,

1243
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty July sixteenth, twenty twenty five. Yesterday trial adjourned

1244
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: because of strikes on Syria. So look, doesn't take a

1245
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 3: genius to figure out what's going on here.

1246
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: Really glad that that's something that we're all signed up

1247
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: in supporting.

1248
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 3: And lastly, let's put this on the screen here from

1249
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: Ben Gavie, part of the nets on yahualition, who sends

1250
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 3: here we want to now they want to quote eliminate

1251
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: the Syrian president. The only thing to be done with

1252
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: Jolani is to eliminate him. We need to eliminate the

1253
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: head of the snake. Keep in mind, this is the

1254
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 3: same leader who has already given Israeli everything that it wants,

1255
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: who is open to normalizing relations, open to coming into

1256
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: the Abraham Accords.

1257
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: Somebody who you know.

1258
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: And this is where I don't even want to sound

1259
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: sympathetic to al Qaeda, but like, if you're a part

1260
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: of the new Syrian government, wouldn't you think that you

1261
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 3: have been sovereignty over your territory to you know, restore

1262
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 3: order whenever there's something that's breaking out there.

1263
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: You might think that. But no, the Israelis are like, no, no, no,

1264
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: we rule your country.

1265
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: You well, gap.

1266
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: They weren't even really trying to assert authority over all

1267
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: of their country. They were like, okay, Israel, you fine,

1268
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: you can have that these we'll be over here.

1269
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 4: But even that wasn't good enough. I'll just close with this.

1270
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: There was a good quote here from an expert who says, listen,

1271
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: Israel's demanding that they withdraw their troops further obviously, and

1272
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: the paradox that creates for them is pretty obvious. If

1273
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: you withdraw, then you just effectively announced Israel controls the

1274
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: country and you fail in your bid to try to

1275
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: assert sovereignty even over the pieces that you haven't already

1276
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: seated to Israel. And if you don't, then they're going

1277
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: to keep bombing you, and then that obviously threatens your

1278
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: ability to hold onto power at all. So that's kind

1279
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: of where things stand right now. And really great, just really,

1280
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: you know, very fortunate for Nanna, who the way these

1281
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: things keep coinciding with his child days, it's.

1282
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: The luckiest manager.

1283
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 4: Isn't that interesting?

1284
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 5: Really?

1285
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: Is all right, let's go ahead and get to the

1286
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: machinations over the FED chair. So Trump has long expressed

1287
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: in this administration has upset with Jerome Palell, who he

1288
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: initially was the one who put in at the FED,

1289
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: by the way, which is going to become relevant during

1290
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: this block. So in any case, apparently he gathered a

1291
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 2: bunch of Republicans in the Oval office this week he

1292
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: reportedly drafted a letter firing and announcing the firing of

1293
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: FED chair. Jerome Palell asked the Republicans in the room, Hey,

1294
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: should I do this? According to Trump, they all were like, oh, yes,

1295
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: mister President. Yes, sir, that sounds like a great idea.

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Speaker 2: He has not moved forward with that whatsoever. So in

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Speaker 2: any case, he got asked a question about whether or

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Speaker 2: not he is going to fire FED chair at Jerome Palell.

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Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take a listen to what he

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Speaker 4: had to say.

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Speaker 5: He's a terrible FED chair. I was surprised he was appointed.

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Speaker 5: I was surprised, frankly that Biden put him in and

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Speaker 5: extended him.

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Speaker 6: But they did so. No, we're not planning on doing anything.

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Speaker 5: We're very concerned. And that goes for his board too,

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Speaker 5: because his board is not doing the job, because they

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Speaker 5: should try and rain this guy in. So he's doing

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Speaker 5: allows you job. But no, I'm not talking about that weekend.

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Speaker 4: So he says there, Biden put him in. Biden did

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Speaker 4: not put him in. He put him in.

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Speaker 2: Whatever he says there, he's not planning on doing anything.

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Speaker 2: So maybe this was like kind of a trial balloom.

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Speaker 2: He was an attempt to distract from other things like

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Speaker 2: Epstein that was going on. But we can put the

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Speaker 2: reporting about this draft letter up on the screen. According

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Speaker 2: to the New York Times, he penned this letter to

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Speaker 2: fire the FED chair. He asked Republicans if he should

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Speaker 2: send it the president. They say, waived a copy of

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Speaker 2: a draft letter firing jerme palette of meeting the Oval

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Speaker 2: Office with House Republicans. Remains to be seen whether he

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Speaker 2: follows through with that threat. And then the last piece here,

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Speaker 2: Sager is there was while this was all swirling and

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Speaker 2: it seemed like more of an active possibility, there was

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Speaker 2: a pretty significant market reaction, especially with regards to the

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Speaker 2: value of the dollar and also the bond yields, both

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Speaker 2: of which are significant and important, And so it's possible

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Speaker 2: this was like a trial balloon. Market's freaked. He decided

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Speaker 2: not to do it, like I said, as possible to distraction.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what do you make of.

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Speaker 3: All this, uh, I mean, it's complicated, as in I

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Speaker 3: do think that Wall Street like worships at the altar

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Speaker 3: of the Fed in a very unhealthy way and have

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Speaker 3: fetishized this whole idea of central bank independence. I understand

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Speaker 3: why Donald Trump seems to be an unreliable actor through

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Speaker 3: which you would not want to break that norm. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that said, I mean, the argument is sound in terms

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Speaker 3: of he's out of step with the rest of the

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Speaker 3: entire world's central bank cuts. If you look at the

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Speaker 3: where the rates are right now and the labor market,

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Speaker 3: inflation and all of that, et cetera, your reaction is

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Speaker 3: not working if you want to look at the core

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Speaker 3: economic problems of the American people. So, like, one of

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Speaker 3: the main reasons that buying a house right now is

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Speaker 3: just exorbitantly expensive is because of where the rates are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we have not had a rate cut, or

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Speaker 3: at least a substantial one in multiple years. A lot

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Speaker 3: of people who bought who wanted to refinance in the

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Speaker 3: future are getting hosed. A lot of people are having

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Speaker 3: to sell for much less than they wanted to. It's

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Speaker 3: one of the main barriers to entry. It makes the

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Speaker 3: average mortgage payment double what somebody who got a rate,

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Speaker 3: you know, four or five years ago. I can sympathize,

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Speaker 3: you know, with all of that, it also makes you know,

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Speaker 3: the carrying cost of business very difficult. People cannot finance

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Speaker 3: expansion at such high rates. Like there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: different like effects that the rates and all of that have.

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Speaker 3: So it's really one of those where I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: there's like.

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Speaker 1: Two heroes either side of the story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if you look at it, you know, we

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Speaker 3: had supply side inflation under Biden, and the Federal Reserve

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Speaker 3: was like, Okay, well, we're going to crush the demand side.

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Speaker 3: I just disagree with that fundamentally because I think they

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Speaker 3: look at their mandate in a very different way, in

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Speaker 3: the way that Wall Street and all of them want

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Speaker 3: to an old school economic theory that, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: does not account for the way that real markets in

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Speaker 3: the real world works. So I think they've done more

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Speaker 3: damage than they have good.

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Speaker 4: I agree with a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Trump wants them to cut the rates by

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Speaker 2: three percentage points, which that seems crazy awesome, that seems wild,

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Speaker 2: And I guess I feel about this sort of similar

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Speaker 2: to how I feel about the term limits conversation, where

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Speaker 2: it's like, in general, I don't support term limits, but

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Speaker 2: I'm glad they're there right now. It's Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel the same thing with the FED chair,

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Speaker 2: Like I actually think that president should be able to,

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Speaker 2: you know, have their choice in there and have the

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Speaker 2: FED policy monetary policy reflect their agenda and their view

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Speaker 2: of the economy. Do I trust that power in the

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Speaker 2: hand of Donald Trump?

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Speaker 4: No, I did not.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I am and you know,

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Speaker 2: I do think if he decided to fire Jerome pell

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Speaker 2: I do think there would be a significant market reaction

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Speaker 2: because they are very like, you know, attached to this idea,

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Speaker 2: and they also have no confidence in like Trump putting

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Speaker 2: in someone there who would be remotely responsible.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, this is where I want

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Speaker 3: people to think like a little bit differently. It's like, look,

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Speaker 3: it's not in the Constitution that the Federal Reserve is

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Speaker 3: like this holy separate curve of you know, separate part

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Speaker 3: of government. And if you went back in time, people

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Speaker 3: would say it's preposterous that you have this separate, independent bank,

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Speaker 3: unanswerable to the public. I mean, if you look back

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Speaker 3: at some of the things, like the vulgar Jimmy Carter situation.

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Speaker 1: It was insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's always like nineteen percent interest rates

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Speaker 3: or whatever, and the president was like, uh, I don't

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Speaker 3: even agree with he appointed him, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: basically ruined any chances of him ever getting elected. And

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Speaker 3: that's take the political stuff out of it. If you

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Speaker 3: want to work and have some sort of democratic say

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Speaker 3: in your economy, having an independent central bank is probably

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Speaker 3: the worst.

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Speaker 1: Possible way to do that.

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Speaker 3: It's basically like a giant you know, insurance scam and

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Speaker 3: all of that for the global financial system.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. Their argument is like, oh, well that trickles

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Speaker 1: down to all of you.

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with that, you know, at all, the

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Speaker 3: housing situation is perfect. So look at the people who

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Speaker 3: are getting crushed by rates, look at the people who

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Speaker 3: worship at the altar of this, like independent Fed and

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Speaker 3: all of this, and it's mostly Wall Street.

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Speaker 1: Bond traders and others.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the Trump factor as in his you know,

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Speaker 3: chaos and capriciousness makes it so that if he were

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Speaker 3: the one to do it, even though again I think

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Speaker 3: it's a sound enough idea, like democratically, it would cause

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Speaker 3: tremendous market reaction and pushback, which I think he would significantly.

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Speaker 3: He would come to regret if it were to ever happen.

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Speaker 3: But he's socializing the idea on Congress because he wants

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Speaker 3: Powell to resign.

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Speaker 1: He wants him to go away. Yeah, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know, he's stuck. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, as you said, he's the one who appointed him.

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Speaker 2: So why did you do that right even once to

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01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: shifted off of why did you do that?

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Speaker 1: You point it some of.

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Speaker 2: Us do have brains that have memories longer than that

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Speaker 2: of a goldfish.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I was there.

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Speaker 3: I literally remember whenever he was I remember whenever he

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Speaker 3: was nominated, and especially because he immediately started criticizing him

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Speaker 3: almost after he nominated him, like a year in. It's

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01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 3: like nothing has changed. Even at that time when we

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Speaker 3: had lower rates, he wanted them to go even lower.

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Speaker 3: So that Trump is a real estate guy, I get it,

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01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: but I do actually think a lot of the country

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Speaker 3: would be on his side. Most people don't necessarily understand

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Speaker 3: Federal Reserve and all of that. But this is again,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you wanted to make a case, if

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Speaker 3: Trump were to give a grand speech and be like,

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Speaker 3: all of you are paying too much in your mortgage prices,

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Speaker 3: and i want all your mortgage rates to go down,

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Speaker 3: and that's why I'm firing the FED chairman, it would

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Speaker 3: be very popular.

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Speaker 1: But you know, they don't have the.

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Speaker 3: Message, discipline, or the case you know, or any of

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Speaker 3: that to actually be able to sell that idea. It

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Speaker 3: would fall and nobody on CNBC is going to be

1456
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Speaker 3: articulating that either they're going to be, oh my god,

1457
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Speaker 3: well freak out.

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Speaker 2: One last note on this, and I think I am

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Speaker 2: remembering this correctly. So the Supreme Court recently ruled that

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Speaker 2: Trump could fire some of these other like sort of

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Speaker 2: supposedly independent. I think it was maybe at the CFPB officials,

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Speaker 2: but they explicitly tried to write their decision such that

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Speaker 2: they were like, but the FED is totally different. So

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Speaker 2: I think he also would probably run into some legal

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Speaker 2: issues now. As we've seen with this administration, they just

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Speaker 2: act first, worry about the legal consequences later, and that

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Speaker 2: has been a strategy that's been very effective for them

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Speaker 2: because of Supreme Court in almost every instance on the

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Speaker 2: shadow docket where they can just instead of actually ruling

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Speaker 2: on something to say well, you can do it for now.

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Speaker 2: As these things work out, they have ruled outside of

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Speaker 2: with Trump in almost every instance where that is concerned.

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Speaker 2: So in a sense, they could get their way at

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Speaker 2: least for a while. But I think also ultimately probably

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, being as corporate friendly and business friendly

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Speaker 2: as they are, would ultimately come and say this is

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Speaker 2: too far.

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Speaker 4: You can't actually do this.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Okay, next part, let's.

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Speaker 2: Get to Zoran and his big meeting with business leaders.

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Speaker 2: So as we have now moved from the New York

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Speaker 2: City Democratic primary into the general elections, or on mom

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Speaker 2: Donnie had a big meeting this week with business leaders

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Speaker 2: in New York City. Some pretty interesting commentary on that

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Speaker 2: from MSNBC LAS.

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Speaker 10: They heard a really charming, affable guy who was well prepared.

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Speaker 4: He made jokes, he made.

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Speaker 10: Self deprecating jokes, but they did not hear someone who

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Speaker 10: changed his policies. And so if you had concerns about

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Speaker 10: his economic policies going into the meeting, you had the

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Speaker 10: same concerns going out. For some people, the charm and

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Speaker 10: his disarming nature was enough to calm.

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Speaker 4: People a little bit.

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Speaker 10: For others, the fact that he was very much sticking

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Speaker 10: to his policies further in region. So there was a

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Speaker 10: bit of a division coming out of the vernom in

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Speaker 10: terms of response. But in the room it was mostly cordial,

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Speaker 10: it was mostly pleasant. There was one quite pointed question,

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Speaker 10: effectively saying, how can you tell us you're not going

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Speaker 10: to drive business out of New York And he danced

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Speaker 10: around it a bit. I think his message was I

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Speaker 10: believe strongly in my policies, but I don't think they're

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Speaker 10: bad for business, and I think many of the business

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Speaker 10: leaders saw a little bit of a disconnect and how

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Speaker 10: you connect those two dots. But overall, they found a nice,

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Speaker 10: charming guy and they were you know, they appreciated the

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Speaker 10: fact that he wanted to meet with them.

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Speaker 13: But he also enters a race here where the setup

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Speaker 13: seems to really favor him. First of all, anytime there's

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Speaker 13: a you have a D next to your name, you're

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01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 13: the Democratic nominee in a deep blue city, that is helpful.

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01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: He's got that.

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 13: But if Andrew Cuomo and Eric Adams both persist in

1515
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,439
Speaker 13: this race and are both vying for the same sort

1516
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 13: of sort of centrist vote, they split that that only

1517
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 13: helps him.

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 11: Donnie.

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01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 14: The fact that he's in makes it highly unlikely that

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01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 14: Zuran does not win. I talked to some people last

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01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 14: night who were part of the partnership meeting, and they

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01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 14: were relatively impressed with Souran. They had very serious concerns

1523
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 14: and they were impressed. He's very charismatic, which we found.

1524
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 14: He came twice to National Action Network and some of

1525
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 14: them agree with him, some disagree, but they say he's

1526
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 14: a lot more personable and more informed than they thought.

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: Apparently at that meeting, the CEO of Pfizer had asked

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: him a question about, well, what about globalized the antifato,

1529
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 2: which it's just worth reminding everybody.

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: Wait to see you a fire does Why do you

1531
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: give a shit about it?

1532
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, a question, right, okay, whatever, And also

1533
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: just as a reminder because this he's been lied about

1534
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: so many times. He never even said that he got

1535
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 2: asked about the phrase, he quote unquote refused to condemn it.

1536
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: Apparently in this meeting he said he would discourage its use,

1537
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: which is basically what he.

1538
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 4: Said from the beginning.

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's insane to me that out

1540
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: of all these people, he's the controversial one.

1541
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 4: Andrew Clmo had to.

1542
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: Literally resign and disgrace Sager after killing grandma's in the

1543
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 2: nursing up and wine covering it up. And I mean

1544
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: the real reason he was pushed on had to resign,

1545
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 2: to your point, was like what eleven different women accused

1546
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 2: him of sexual harassment.

1547
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: It's just Italian courteous lea.

1548
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: Has a new line of like he was spanking fannies

1549
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: and killing granny.

1550
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: That's good.

1551
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 6: I like that.

1552
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: It's also by the way accurate. They're actually true.

1553
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 2: Was indicted on federal corruption charges, has a twenty percent

1554
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: of rouble rating in the city. I lost track of

1555
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: the number of members of his administration who were under

1556
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: indictment or being federally investigated. His former police commissioner has

1557
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 2: just accused him of running in court, of running the

1558
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: NYPD and city Hall as if it is a criminal enterprise.

1559
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 4: And Zoran, that's the controversial one.

1560
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, Kathy Hokel also I believe stop by Morning

1561
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: Joe to get asked these very similar questions.

1562
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take a listen to her too.

1563
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 15: I'm going to make sure that we have a climate

1564
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 15: where businesses can thrive. They create jobs, they give us

1565
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 15: the revenues I need to be able to have very

1566
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 15: generous social safety net programs. Everyone is having a hair

1567
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 15: on fire moment, and I said, let's just calm it

1568
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 15: all down. I've spoken to hundreds of business leaders saying, listen,

1569
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 15: nothing is going to happen in this city without me

1570
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 15: being aware of it and involved in it. So don't

1571
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 15: talk about packing up and leaving and all these other

1572
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 15: you know, overreactions. We're going to be Okay, No matter

1573
01:09:59,320 --> 01:09:59,879
Speaker 15: what happens.

1574
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: So there you go from her, And interestingly, she's actually

1575
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: facing a primary challenge. Zorn is pushing of course, for

1576
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 2: the top tax you know, for hikes on the top

1577
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 2: tax bracket. Hokel has said absolutely not. Her primary opponent

1578
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: is saying yes, and so that is actually becoming a

1579
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: core issue in terms of the New York primary. But again,

1580
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: like he is the Democratic nominee, there is a democratic process.

1581
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: People voted, he won, He won by twelve points. He

1582
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: completely changed the electorate in a way that you think

1583
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: Democrats would be like, that's great, how.

1584
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 4: Could we do more of that?

1585
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: And instead they just like, you know, don't know what

1586
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: to do with, don't know whether to endoors, don't know

1587
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 2: what to do with this guy, and a newpole just

1588
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: came out. I mean, he's winning first of all for

1589
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: the general election, but also rank and file Democrats, like

1590
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: the people who vote in the city, they're overwhelmingly positive

1591
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 2: about him, like there's no question about it. And his

1592
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: favorability with young voters is like off the charts, and

1593
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: the other guys are dramatically underwater and hated.

1594
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 4: So it's just such a crazy situation to me.

1595
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with your point about what's controversial and what's not.

1596
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you know the tax thing.

1597
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 3: I mean, by the way, New York, you guys should

1598
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 3: think about it because you know, your whole tax system

1599
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 3: is relied on taxing the super rich. So if even

1600
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 3: twelve people leave, you're actually screwed. You should actually really

1601
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 3: reform the way that you guys do that. That's just

1602
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 3: my opinion. Also, I was just there for flagrant the

1603
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: subway shithole. I'm just going to say it. I mean,

1604
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: it was the day after the floods that came in

1605
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 3: the entire platform. Imagine waiting in the platform. Everybody is

1606
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: soaked already from the humidity, and the platform itself is

1607
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 3: steaming from all of the flood water, and we're all

1608
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 3: crammed in there together and then you walk into the

1609
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: ac which you think will be refreshing, but actually what

1610
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: happens is now your entire body is covered and your

1611
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: you know, your suit and everything is wet, and you

1612
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 3: absorb the sweat off of another person onto yourself.

1613
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: That was my experience yesterday in the New York City something.

1614
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, we've been there, but it's one of

1615
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: those as you're like this is.

1616
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: Not great okay in terms of the lighting situation. Didn't

1617
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: enjoy it myself.

1618
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: And so that just shows you like the rank and file,

1619
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: like the stuff that actually animates people.

1620
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: That's really what matters.

1621
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 3: Also, I did check and Zoron is right, hellal too

1622
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 3: fucking expensive, all right. I went to the car and

1623
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 3: I said, no, first, I don't have any cash on me.

1624
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: The guy's not taking card or whatever. And yeah, it's

1625
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 3: like twelve thirteen dollars sorries. Too much, man, it's too much.

1626
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: I got New York so much one last week's here

1627
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 2: on the Zorn Business Leaders because this was just too

1628
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: funny putting D three up on the screen. This tweet

1629
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 2: just really sent me. So this lady says, tough meeting

1630
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 2: for mom Donnie with the Partnership for New York CEOs today,

1631
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: I'm told stood his ground on into Faddel language and

1632
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't commit to keeping the New York PD Commissioner Tish,

1633
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: whom this crowd likes in the job, also didn't recognize

1634
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: her dad, Jim Tish, when he rose for a question.

1635
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 4: How dare he.

1636
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: Not recognize a Tish when they rise for a question?

1637
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: You know, I know a lot of people out there

1638
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 2: in the comments were saying, I'm a single issue voter,

1639
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: which is can you recognize Jim.

1640
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 3: Tish's when he stands for H for a question, I

1641
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 3: didn't realize that the NYP commissioner is part of the

1642
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: Low's dynasty.

1643
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, there, this is actually wild.

1644
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't know about these families in the country, okay,

1645
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: And so they were offended that he how dare he

1646
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: didn't have his billionaire I would work the book Facebook

1647
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: in front of him anyway. So that's how things are

1648
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: going in that right.

1649
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: That's New York