1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi everyone, 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: exciting news. Okay, my second annual I Choose Me Live 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Summit Women's empowerment event is coming to Los Angeles on Saturday, 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: April twenty fifth, and I want you to be there. 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: The I Choose Me movement began as three little words 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: on Beverly Hills nine O two one oh in nineteen 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: ninety five, but it has evolved into something so much 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: more than that. A revolution, you guys. It's a message 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: I feel so passionate about. I wrote the book on it. 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: So please join me for this one day party shining 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: a light on self care and self love. Our panelists 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: are incredible. This year we have Amanda Klut's, Bethany Joy Lenz, 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Genie Mai, Gabby Reese, Sarah Shah, my dear friend, Gabrielle Carteris. 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: And this year we are going to be doing a 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: Mannal see what I did there man panel. We have 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Caramo and Cameron Matheson and more surprises. So please come 17 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: for the powerful conversations, stay for lunch and cocktails. Make 18 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: a commitment to choose yourself right here in sunny California. 19 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing. Tickets are on sale now 20 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: at veeps dot com. That's v e EPs dot com, 21 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: and all of the info will be in our show notes. 22 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Welcome to I Choose Me, the 23 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: podcast about the choices we make, the ones that shape 24 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: our careers, our families, and even how we choose to 25 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: get ready and out the door each day. My guest 26 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: has spent nearly three decades helping women feel beautiful when 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: they look in the mirror. Laura Geller is a legendary 28 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: makeup artist, an entrepreneur, a mom, and has been advocating 29 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: for women with mature skin. And I'll put that in quotations, 30 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: long before the industry cared what older women actually wanted. 31 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: It is my pleasure to speak with my friend Laura Geller. 32 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: How are you beauty good? Oh? 33 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: Talk about beauty. Oh my god, I'm so good. We've 34 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: got sunshine here. I'm so happy. 35 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: Where are you are you New York? 36 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: In my apartment? Yeah, I'm home. Well, I have a 37 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: show at four o'clock. 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. We've got to get this done so 39 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: you can. 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: We got to get this, We got to get this 41 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: show on the road. Say sure, And I'm going to say, 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to say when I go on that I 43 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: just Courtney. I'm going to say, i just did a 44 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: podcast with Jenny, perfect podcast. So I'm so happy, thank 45 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: you for having me. 46 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you finally. 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: God, I know, I know we've been trying to figure 48 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: this out. 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I will never forget the first day we met officially, 50 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: like face to face. Yeah, was at the summit in Vegas, right, yes, 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: And I was just like, you were the nicest person. 52 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: Oh, Jenny, that was so like, I'm. 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: Just pleasantly surprised at how kind you are, nice you 54 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: are and present, You're so present, you know. 55 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: I really felt, I really feel strongly about GBC, you know. 56 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: And there's lots of thoughts. We could talk another time, obviously, 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: but I know what it did for me and how 58 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: it changed my brand and how it put me on 59 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: the map and opened doors to a million other things. 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: And I really feel like when somebody comes to me 61 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: and says, you know, do you have any advice or 62 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 2: you know, I really feel like I have a lot 63 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: to share. And my success next year is thirty years 64 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: thirty years, wow, thirty years. 65 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I came up to you and said, 66 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: tell me every thing I need to know or something 67 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: Are you having a good time? 69 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I am. I love QVC, I like hell I'm 70 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: working with them, I love the customers. I really am 71 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: enjoying myself. So thank you for making it such a 72 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: beautiful environment to work in. 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: Listen, Sis, I'm here for you. And if you ever 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: want to talk to me, you know, off offline and 75 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: you got it. 76 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'll call you. I'll call you here here. Well, 77 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: you have been in the beauty industry since you were 78 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: is it eighteen years old? 79 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 80 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: All right, that's what I thought, long, long, long before, 81 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: like the clean girl, aesthetic or Glaskin or skinamalism or 82 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: whatever they're calling these buzzwords. Now, I know, I know 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: when you started Laura Keller Beauty. What was the problem 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: that you were trying to solve that nobody else out 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: there was addressing? 86 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: You know, Jenny, this is so interesting because a lot 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: of people think I had a plan for this business. 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Is I never had a plan. I didn't know where 89 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: I was going. I was living in the moment, being 90 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: a makeup artist in New York and in Hollywood and 91 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: just enjoying myself and as the opportunities arose, I would 92 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: follow them out the door. And one of the things 93 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: that kept happening with real women, but then with high 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: profile celebrities was they would say to me after I 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: made them up, Wait, this is you need to teach 96 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: me how to do this, Like I need those products, right? 97 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: And I always say that. 98 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'd say, well, I don't. I'm not selling them, 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, but I can get them for you. But 100 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: then they would say, but you know, you need to 101 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: teach me. And I would say to my celebrity clients, 102 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: you know you're never going to do this on your own. 103 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: You can afford to have somebody do it, so why 104 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: bother me with this? You know, do hire somebody? Get 105 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: it done. No, No, you don't understand. There's sometimes I 106 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: can't hire somebody. And I just yeah, I heard this 107 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: over and over again. So then I look up a 108 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 2: place in New York where they sold theater and film makeup, 109 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: stage makeup, but they also sold a regular line of makeup. 110 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: It was famous. I mean, you would go there. It's 111 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: no longer there. Anybody in TV and film would come 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: in for makeup, I mean, and the most famous photographer, 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Scaboulo and way bandy, and they would come in and 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: I was really well trained because I studied theater and 115 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: film makeup. But they had private rooms in the back, 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: and the rooms were where somebody could come in and 117 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: have a makeup lesson. I remember it was twenty five 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: dollars in those days. I have a makeup lesson, What 119 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: a deal? 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: What a deal? 121 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: What a deal? And then also if I sold ninety 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: dollars worth of products, I got five bucks, but if 123 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: I sold one hundred and thirty, I got ten bucks. Ooh, 124 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: and I was like, I need that one hundred thirty. 125 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: I got to get to that one hundred thirty. And 126 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: I saw that I had that little bit of hunger 127 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: to sell. But then I saw that I was selling 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: like crazy because I had a way of breaking it 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: down and explaining it where people really understood it. And 130 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: because they understood it, they bought it. They were eager 131 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: to bout it. And that lasted ten years. Ten years, 132 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: and I probably would have stayed, but they fired me 133 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: because I asked for two weeks off and they were 134 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: not happy that I asked. They only wanted to give 135 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: me one week, but then they gave into giving me 136 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: the two look what they lost. Believe me, I stayed 137 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: friends with the owner for years after. When I opened 138 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: my own thing, he came up to help me and 139 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: congratulate me. But so that is what led me to 140 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: realizing that women everywhere just wanted instruction and. 141 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Right, It's so true. Every time I sit down in 142 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: a professional makeup artist chair, I am like, tell me everything. 143 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: I need to know. What's that product? Can I take 144 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: a picture of it? How do I get that? Where 145 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: does that go? Do I put on my my upper brow? 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: My lash line? I'm asking all the questions. And you 147 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: would think I would know everything about makeup at this point, 148 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: but I'm always curious about what's new, what's fresh, and 149 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I love learning about new products. Which, hello, 150 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: you you send me some good stuff, lady, I know 151 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: I know what you have. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm obsessed 152 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: with your Baked line, all. 153 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: The baked thank you, thank you. 154 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: The foundation, Baked balance. Yes, yes, I'm loving that one. 155 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: I've always loved that one and I recommend that to everybody. 156 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: And I love the Highlight whatever that one's called. 157 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 2: Oh the French vanilla maybe, yes it's not a swirrel. 158 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's gelato. Gilded. Honey. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that one. 160 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all made on the same terracotta tile. I 161 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: mean I stumbled on this process two years ago. And 162 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: I have to tell you we launched one product. It 163 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: was a bronzer on that terra cotta tile, and my 164 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: customer spoke loudly. They were like, we want everything baked. 165 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: I did not know that was going to become the 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: essence of my brand, but it has, and it has. 167 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, of course we do other things. 168 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: We're doing a cream palate now. I don't know if 169 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: you got that. 170 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: I love it. Look I'm wearing it right now. Look 171 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: on my eyelids. 172 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: Oh is she ready? She's pretty? She's pretty. And also 173 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: we need it at a certain age. I mean you 174 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: start to realize. 175 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Tell me why about the cream? 176 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny because I say it like, 177 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: there was a time where my skin was so oily. 178 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: I never thought i'd beat dry. We get to perimenopause, 179 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: postmenopause menopause and your skin changes and you don't produce 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: as much oil and you need to feel creamy things 181 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: on your skin. And I remember the pushback. Nobody wanted 182 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: liquid foundation. Nobody wanted cream foundation. They felt it was icky. 183 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: So now everybody's craving that creamy feeling. And so, you know, 184 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: it's hard when your brand is known for something to 185 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: step out of that and go into something else. But boy, 186 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: we had this cream foundation palette with blush bronze or 187 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: highlight eyeshadows lip and it's called better than best, better 188 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: than best cream palate, and now it's so received so well. 189 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: So the thing you need is right there. That's what 190 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: I love about you too, is your kits. You put 191 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: together all the things that we need and then all 192 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: you have to usually do is like add a mask 193 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: era yeah and you're done. 194 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It's so it has 195 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 2: to be easy, otherwise people aren't going to want to 196 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: do it. So the product has to be versatile. It 197 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: has to be quick. It has to be that when 198 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: you put it on, even if you didn't do a 199 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: good job, you still look batter. And it has to 200 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: be fast because the days of us wanting to labor 201 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: over putting makeup on, I mean, there was a time 202 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: women enjoyed the process and did it. Nobody. I don't 203 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: care if you're a stay at home mom, or if 204 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: you're a busy mom or whatever, you know, empty nester. 205 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to take the time to put makeup on. 206 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: They just don't. 207 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: How much time do you usually clock when you're doing 208 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: your own makeup, like for today, for example? 209 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well today it's like more than I'm going out 210 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: with you and then I'm doing a QBC show on 211 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: the air. Yes, so I think maybe a little more 212 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: time today. I would say twenty five minutes tops, But 213 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: I could do it. It's like name that tune. I 214 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: could do a full makeup in ten minutes, and I 215 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: mean everything, not cutting any corners yet. 216 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm a makeup artists, you got it down. 217 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: I mean I always thank Oh, I'm a makeup artist. 218 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: Let me tell you. 219 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: I know it comes in very Wait. But here's the thing. 220 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: When I do my own makeup. As I've gotten older, Laura, 221 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: I've lost my eyesight. I cannot see without my glasses on. 222 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: So that makes it very difficult to do eyeliner, mascara, 223 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: anything unless I have a giant magnifying mirror. 224 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's. 225 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Just too much. 226 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I wish I had it. Unless I may, 227 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: I may run back to my room. And get it 228 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: and show you we are launching Did you know about that? No, Oh, 229 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: we're launching glasses, not these obviously that Wait a second. 230 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: This one eye, one eye, and so you can do 231 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: the eye that's open because you can see from this 232 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: glass to this glass. Then you flip it over and 233 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: now you can see from this side to do that. 234 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: All Okay, you are genius. I didn't have any idea. 235 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: Can't believe me mentioned that. Ye, we're launching it. 236 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm excited to try that. I'm excited because it's 237 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: it's a hassle, it's a problem. 238 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: Well it is. And I always say to women who 239 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: don't use magnification mirrors, I'm like, all right, get over yourself, 240 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: get yourself a magnification mirror. 241 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: I know, But then that like that unleash. She's a 242 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: whole beast, Like you don't look anywhere other than the eyes. 243 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: With that, I know, I know, I don't know about you, 244 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: But like I sit in front of that ten time, 245 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: mine's ten time I sit in front of it. I'm squeezing, 246 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm plucking hairs. I didn't know right, hairs. 247 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: That you're like where what? I didn't know You've been 248 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: there all along. 249 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, any see those hairs and not tell me? 250 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: Do you think they're not visible? 251 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: They're not. They're not people. Human eyes are not really okay, No, 252 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: myself too. 253 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: I always say, if you look good, if you get 254 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: your makeup right in a five time or ten time, 255 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: whatever it is you need, you're going to look really 256 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: good in bright sunlight and you don't have to worry, right, 257 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: it's you really got to check yourself. 258 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean for somebody like me, who is so detailed, 259 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: like I want things to be the best they can. 260 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: So when I am doing that, I do. I have 261 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: a sense of confidence that, like, this looks perfect in 262 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: this magnifying mirror. It's got to look good in real life. 263 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well did you ever turn your magnifying mirror over 264 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: to the like normal size? And then it's sort of 265 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: like whoa wait wait, I go yeah, I mean it's 266 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: funny because I do it and I think it looks great. 267 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: I go to one my bathroom and I have a 268 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: mirror on the wall, but there's a window behind that mirror, 269 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: and somehow I see because it's more light. Yes, I'm like, 270 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: oh no, it's too much. I didn't think it was 271 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: too much, and then I'm taking a Kleenex and I'm 272 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: putting water on it and wiping it down. So you 273 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: do have to check. Really, the best place to do 274 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: is take a mirror and go to the window and 275 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: see what you look like. 276 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, double check. Don't they say what is that thing? 277 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: They say put it on, take it off or something, 278 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: or like, oh, I. 279 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: Don't know, day. Is there really a day expression? I 280 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: don't know. 281 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Well, yes, there's something that I've heard that it's basically 282 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: put more on and then take some away, because chances 283 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: are you've put too much on. 284 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably go the opposite way. I'd say 285 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: you're better off doing less, right, I mean, the one 286 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: thing I never want. And by the way, I'm not 287 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: looking and examining when I see women and see my 288 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: friends like you, I don't even notice it unless you 289 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: say to me, can you tell me if I'm doing 290 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: it right? And then I zero in. But I would 291 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: notice if somebody had too much. And if I'm looking 292 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: at you and i'm seeing your makeup, it's distracting me 293 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: from looking at you as the person. So I you know, 294 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: it's so funny. I was just grolling before, and I'll 295 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: leave them nameless. But somebody you don't know, but somebody 296 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: I know who is in the public eye was being 297 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: interviewed and I thought, who would let her go on 298 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: air like that? Like she had so much eye makeup 299 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't see her eyes. It was I guess you 300 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: know she likes it. And I always also say that, 301 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: like you may have a look that you think is great, Jenny, 302 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: like even yourself, but you have to be open the 303 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: letting or going somewhere and letting somebody else see you 304 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: through their lens and trying something different. Like maybe you think, oh, 305 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: I could only wear nude lift colors. I would never 306 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: wear a bright color because you just don't think you can. 307 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: But then someone puts it on you when you hate it, 308 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: hate it, But then I say to you, do not 309 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: take it off. Go home, show your gorgeous children, show 310 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: your gorgeous loved ones, and see what they say, because 311 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: chances are they're going to be like, wow, I never 312 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: thought i'd see you in a color like that. It 313 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: looks really good on you. It's our thing that we 314 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: feel we can't change a routine that we. 315 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Have absolutely or like you know, when someone's stuck with 316 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: that double black rimmed eyeliner look and heavy, heavy mascara. 317 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: Maybe that's something they learned in high school. Maybe that's right, 318 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: and they think, you know, this looks great. I'm gonna 319 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: stick with it. But I think it's important that we, 320 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: like you said, be open to updating our look. 321 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think our skin changes. And I always say 322 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 2: you have to meet the needs of your skin and 323 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: the shape of your face where you're at, and that 324 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: means making changes. And you know it's I know you're 325 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: gonna laugh at this, but like two days ago, I 326 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: looked in the mirror and I was like, wow, my 327 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: eyes are really hooded. They did not appear to look 328 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: the way they looked in the last two days. Chances 329 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: are they became hooded. It's real. It's a real thing. 330 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: Too much sodium, Yeah, probably Chinese fud for dinner. I 331 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: don't know, could. 332 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: Be, could be a lot of pasta. And I just thought, 333 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: you know, I've got to re sculpt the way I'm 334 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: putting on my eyes now and color with color. 335 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: Right. 336 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think you really do listen. It's only 337 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: if it's important to you. I'm not here to say. 338 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: Believe me, most of my friends are not makeup people. 339 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: They are very natural, and I don't ever impose my 340 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 2: beliefs on them because they're comfortable. That's the way they 341 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: look and they should, right. But if you care and 342 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: you're asking me, I'm going to tell you. 343 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: Laura's going to tell you the truth. 344 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: People, I'm gonna tell you. 345 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: I love that about you. Yeah. We run into each 346 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: other in the hallways at QBC sometimes and we were 347 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: talking last time, I joking, probably doing a TikTok together, 348 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: and you were saying, how you've become a social media 349 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: content creator and an influencer all of a sudden at 350 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: this point in your life and career, and we were 351 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: laughing about it, but it's the truth. And how has 352 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: that changed your business better or for worse? 353 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: What a great question? That is such a good do 354 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: you know nobody's ever asked me that. 355 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: Well, because you've seen that how it changes things because 356 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: you were here, You and I were both here before social. 357 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: Before it, before it, you know, and I was doing 358 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: it for a while, but only in the last two years. 359 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: I think I've become more relatable and I think that oh, yes. 360 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: You have hold sorry to love you. But the one 361 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: where you're laying on the treadmill and you're eating the 362 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: track of chips. That's my favorite one. 363 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my New Year's resolution to be on 364 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: the treadmill at least thirty minutes a day. 365 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: Yes, and you were laying that's right. 366 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: Nobody said what I had to do on the treadmill 367 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: or how I had to do it. So I laid 368 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: down and I brought a bag of chips and I 369 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: was doom scrolling on my phone. It was so by 370 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: the way that video got. I know that's probably small 371 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: potatoes for you, but two point seven million views. 372 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: That's a that's a big number because of it. Like 373 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: you said, it's relatable. 374 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: It's relatable, and I think my team, you know, I 375 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: have young women who are on my social team, and 376 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: I think I underestimated that they know who I am 377 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: at the core, and that part of me is that 378 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: I really want to be a stand up comic and 379 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: they're they're pulling that out of me, that side of 380 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: me out and when I do it with them, I'm like, oh, 381 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: this is fun, and then I forget that that's going 382 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: to be like student on social media and then when 383 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: I see it it's a little cringe worthy for me. Yes, 384 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: but the response, but the response has been great. Yeah, 385 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: it's hard to watch. 386 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: It really is welcome to my life. Yes, yeah, watching myself. 387 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: I say it all the time. I do not know 388 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: how you could be an actor. I'm just going to 389 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: say it. I would, I would want to. Like listen, 390 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm always flattered when someone wreckonognizes me and stops me. 391 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: But it grounds me and it wipes me out. I 392 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: can't imagine going out daily and having to be looking 393 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: good and because you don't know who you're going to 394 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: run into and who's going to recognize you. It's a lot, 395 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 2: a lot. 396 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I don't leave my house anymore. Laura. 397 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: I know, I get it. It's so safe in your house, right, 398 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: it really is. I know, I know, but you don't 399 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: have your own anonymity, and it's that's tough. That's really tough. 400 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So I have to ask you. I've loved talking 401 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: about everything with you, but I just love your message 402 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: to women our age in general, and it kind of 403 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: really kind of is simpotico with the I Choose me 404 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: of it all. My message is so important to me, 405 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: Laura Giller, what was your last I Choose me moment? 406 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: And then also tell us how we can find and 407 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: have our I choose me moments. 408 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: Okay, can I pick to you? 409 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: Yes, you can do as much as you want. 410 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: I choose me. I chose me on Saturday when I 411 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: cut out all the noise from people going I want 412 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: to get together, want to you want to have brunch, 413 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: you want to go to dinner? And I took Gigi, 414 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: my little doggie, down to the river because I lived 415 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: on the river on the east side of Manhattan. And 416 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: I walked with her and played ball with her, and 417 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: I didn't take a call, I didn't look at my phone. 418 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: I was so present and I had such a good time. 419 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: It brought me back to when I was young, when 420 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: there was no social media, when I didn't have to answer, 421 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: you know, business questions calls. That was my first time 422 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: in a long time where I chose me and did 423 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: something alone. 424 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: That's as good. 425 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 2: But just this morning, I chose me Jenny and I 426 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: signed up for a spa retreat. That's not that's not 427 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: typical me. 428 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, it's not something I do for myself either. 429 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thought of like taking off time, 430 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 2: you know, in advance, like I'm just not good at 431 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: it because I'm always like my team will have me 432 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: busy every day if they can, and I love it. 433 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it. But I carved out this spa retreat 434 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: that other women are going to be going on. I 435 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: would love to share it with you because we would 436 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: love to have you. It is. I did it last year. 437 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: It is not cheap, but it was the best couple 438 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: of days from my mind, body and soul. And I thought, 439 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm invited again. I'm going wait, where's going? 440 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: Just where is it? 441 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: San Diego? Oh, Calvi, Calevi. 442 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: You're coming over to my coast. 443 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I think you need to come, because 444 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: when you you the women that go on this trip 445 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: are not my friends. I mean I like them if 446 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 2: they were listening to this. Don't get me wrong, you're 447 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: all my friends. Oh no, no, no, we're all part 448 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: of a tribe. Now there's high profile people in there, 449 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: but they and they all different businesses all and we 450 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: have these fireside chats and it's so incredible and then 451 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: we all help each other through this chat group that 452 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: we're all in and so when somebody needs something, they go, 453 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: does anybody know somebody who does? X y Z. I 454 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: love that everybody's got an answer, And so I would 455 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: say to anybody listening, you know, if you're invited somewhere 456 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: that you typically wouldn't go to or doesn't appeal to you, 457 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: but you're tempted, I think you walk through that door too, 458 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: because I would have never I'm not a spot. These 459 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: gals are like you. They were doing hot yoga, they 460 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: were on trappezes, flying upside down. I even I was 461 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: laughing at them. I was not doing any of that. 462 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: I was doing that Laura Geller, my flying from the 463 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: trapeeze days are over. Yeah, I mean I want to 464 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: sit on the guage with you when we have time off. 465 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So you know, for me, it was like 466 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: I did what I could and it was invigorating and 467 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: I was pleased, and you know, I got everybody up dancing. 468 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: I had I always bring a speaker when I go 469 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: away and I'm the DJ, and I played I have 470 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: the best playlist, and I got everybody dancing, which was 471 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: not part of the schedule. But that's what I would 472 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: tell women, like, do something out of your norm because 473 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: it feels so so good. 474 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: It really does. You are that such good advice because 475 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: it's it's scary to step out of your box, your 476 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: comfort zone. It is the things you're familiar with. But 477 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: when you do, when you like take a step like 478 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: that or a leap into the unknown, it just opens 479 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: up your visual of like what life can be or 480 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: what you know different people can bring into your life 481 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: and what you can share with other people. That also 482 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: feels very very good, Like you really do their dance party. 483 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: They probably wouldn't have had a dance party if it 484 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: weren't for you. 485 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: Do you know that? They all said to me, the 486 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 2: best part of that trip. You know what I did. 487 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: I took the speaker. I drank a little wine. I'm 488 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 2: not going to lie, and I went and in their 489 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: little cottages. You know, everybody gets their own cottage and 490 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: we take over the whole spa. And I got my 491 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 2: speaker and one gal was coming out of her college 492 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: and I said, come on. I had the music playing 493 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: and then we would knock on the door of the 494 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: next one in everybody was coming at one of their rooms. 495 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: You're like a hide piper. 496 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: It was exactly like that. And I said, oh no, 497 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to bring a bigger speaker this time. Don't worry. 498 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: It was fun, but you know, again, out of my 499 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: comfort zone. And you know, I love I Choose Me. 500 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: It's such a good adage because anytime an opportunity comes up, 501 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: I think everybody has to question, who are you choosing? 502 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: Are you giving it to someone else? Okay, you know 503 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: I always I'm a giver. I'm sure you're an m 504 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: path two. I put everybody first before me. But it's 505 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: like my time now. 506 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: I love this. I love this, Laura Gelli, You're the 507 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: best girls. Gal. I'm so happy to be a gailler. 508 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: Gal. 509 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: I love working with you, but I also love knowing 510 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: you as a friend. 511 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: So I love you, honey, Thank you, have. 512 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: A great live. I love you. Thank you you guys. 513 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to share that my book I Choose Me, 514 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: Chasing Joy, Finding Purpose and Embracing Reinvention is coming April fourteenth, 515 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: and it would mean the world to me if you 516 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: would pre order a copy or the audiobook wherever you 517 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: get your books. And yes, I am definitely narrating the audiobook, 518 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: so it's going to be so fun.