1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Brunette. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, all right, you know what's ridiculous? 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: You do? I do? Stop right there. I know it's ridiculous. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: I'm over here waiting to collaborate and listen. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Addresses ridiculous addresses. Yeah, email addresses, home addresses ridiculous. 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with you on this hair braiding. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: Huh Have I got a mashup? I'm once said, think 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: all it's not what you think. This is a mashup 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: between me having my email address co opted and a 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: listener having her home address co opted. So this is 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: not a product mashup. It's a it's a mistaken identity mashup. 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh I'm listening. I'm leaning in. 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so page kill Cullen. She's an illustrator who listens 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: to us. She's got good stuff on Instagram. 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Page. 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: She also sent us a really cool picture of an 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: apossum that had taken up residence in her bike. I 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: think it was anyway, it looks cute. She's a good 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: animal person like us. She sent this message. 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: So. 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I purchased my first home early this year, and I 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: noticed fairly quickly that I was getting a lot of 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: mail for a woman who had never lived at my address, 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: overdue bills, notices from car dealerships and credit unions. I 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: later realized that this was the same woman who sent 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: a girl to my home claiming that she ran a 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: braiding salon out of my house. The girl was just 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: as confused as I was when she was greeted by 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: a disheveled white woman in her pjs who clearly just 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: woke up. After she explained that she'd given the woman 31 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars as a down payment. I took her 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: to a cafe across the street, got her a coffee, 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: and we were able to get her money back by 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: claiming fraud. If you need to steal from companies, I 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: won't judge, but stealing from a kid seriously, She's claimed 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars in PPP loans and apparently works as 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: an ra at a nursing home, and then Page puts 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: zoinks and I think she used my house because it 39 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: was listed online for so long. She's apparently getting sued 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: left and right now, and of course I'm the one 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: getting calls about it. 42 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: She has calls too, I guess like she oh they 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: look up the address. 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, so this poor thing she buys a house. Congratulations, 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: Mazzle gets a house. Yes, and now you know she's 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: got the house, this deadbeat. I feel bad for the 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: kids showing up to get her hair braided. Oh totally, 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. 49 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: You imagine the look on that poor kid's face when 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: the door swings. 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Open and she's given she probably venmoded one hundred bucks. Yeah, 52 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, poor thing poor a little bit. So Yeah, 53 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: I think that's ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous that this 54 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: is in multiple platforms, email address, so page, and I have, 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, this shared experience. So feeling really violated, Sarah. 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: It's not identity theft. It's like an identity borrowing. 57 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: It's like location theft. 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: Okay, you got a second I got one for you? 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? Please? 60 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: Uh oh man, this one if I got a pink 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: diamond heist for you? 62 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Really? 63 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: Yes, you caught me sideways with the pink panther dime 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: he Where I kept thinking was about other things, and 65 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: I was like all a flutter, Well, this one I 66 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: got for you should do the same. 67 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: I like it. I love to be all a flutter. 68 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know you do. This one involves a 69 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: Florida psychic, surprisingly gullible domestic servant who worked in the 70 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: Gulf region of the Arabian Peninsula. Okay, and finally there 71 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: is the former Prime Minister of Qatar and head of 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: the Guitar Sovereign Wealth Fund. 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah. 74 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: Elizabeth, this one is a banger Buffalo buttercup. Yes, sir, 75 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: this is ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: heists and cons. It's all free and ridiculous. Elizabeth Zeven, dateline, 77 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: November twenty twenty two, Christie's New York Auctions House. Okay, 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: that's last year, twenty twenty two. Apparently I learned this 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: researching this story was a year of jaw dropping gemstones 80 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: hitting the jewelry market. 81 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: Really, I don't track the jewelry market, nor do I. 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: So this was news to me. At the end of 83 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: the calendar year, all the jewel heads apparently turned their 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: attention to gawk and gape at the most dazzling stone 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: to drop yet, a thirteen point one five carrot quote. 86 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: Fancy vivid pink diamond. Huh fancy vivid Elizabeth that's in 87 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: all caps, by the way, not all caps, the front 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: caps in. 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: Like some caps in some lowercases. 90 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: All fantasy vivid what not? Like that? I'm written in 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: comic sands back. You know, it's just capital AF capital 92 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: v fancy vivid. 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, and Christie's. 94 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: Yes hyped this rock ast quote a phenomenon in the 95 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: world of rare. 96 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: Diamonds, a funk phenomenon. 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's gonna get up right in ye Now, 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: this thirteen point one five carrot fancy vivid pink diamond, 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: it was expected to be the top auction prize getter, 100 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: just like record setting possibly Christie's New York Magnificent Jewel sale. 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: It was going to be the bell of that ball 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: right now. The fancy vivid pink diamond was expected to 103 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: sell somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty five to thirty 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: five million dollars. Wow, it's a nice neighborhood. 105 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: That's a very nice neighborhood. No, very exclusive. 106 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: I can't afford that neighborhood. 107 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: Now, you can't pull over in that neighborhood. 108 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm not even allowed in that neighborhood. They see me 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: coming in at the gates like come on, who are 110 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: you kidding here? Now? If Christie's New York's Magnificent Jewel 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: Sale went down in December sixth I know you were 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: totally paying attention. 113 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: Totally was I know exactly where I was riveted that 114 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: auction baby. 115 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that this the Christie's New York Magnificent Jewel 116 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Sale was kind of like their happy Honda days. Like 117 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: it's like the Toyota than of the jewelry world. 118 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: It was a December to remember. 119 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a happy wintertime sales event. So some 120 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: spokesperson for the auction house, they were trying to highlight 121 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: it when the as the big day drew near, right, 122 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 2: the auction hammer is about to drop, right, everybody's excited. 123 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: The admiral cut bell of the ball is gonna be 124 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: shown first in Hong Kong then New York to drill 125 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: up excitement, right, But boom, it's a no show. Everyone's like, 126 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: what what happened to the fancy vivid pink diamond, right 127 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: stunner never gets its moment in the spotlight. Spokesperson for 128 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: the auction house came along. They answered everyone's like questions, 129 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: you said quote Christiese confirms that the fancy vivid pink 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: diamond ring has been withdrawn from sale in New York 131 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: on December sixth. That's all they would say. So all 132 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: the company was willing to say about the matter at 133 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: the time. Okay, but luckily for us, there's the FBI. 134 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Thank god, they love to blab. So the FBI, they 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: got the Justice Department to put out a press release. 136 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: Come to find out, just before Christie's New York was 137 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: about to drop that auction hammer, a team of FBI 138 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: agents had swooped in. They walked up to them and 139 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: they said, hey, we'll take that stone, thank you very much. Now, yeah, 140 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: the FBI was working as part of a multi national 141 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: law enforcement investigation. Also, the it was being helped along 142 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: by teams of private detectives. Oh, they were all working 143 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: on this same man hunt. They were after a jewel thief. Okay, 144 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: now not just any old jewel thief, Elizabeth. This cat 145 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: had managed to steal about ninety million dollars in gems 146 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: and jewelry, and he stole it from one of the 147 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 2: richest men in the world, a chic a Shike. 148 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 149 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the man the one that the FBI interpolled. The 150 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: teams of private detectives're all after. He was a Florida 151 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: based online psychic. Wait, and the best part is he 152 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: pulled off this epic heist without having to ever set 153 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: foot outside of Florida. 154 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: God bless. 155 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: He used his psychic powers, Elizabeth, to pull the ninety 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: million dollars of jewelry to him. You're wondering how he 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: did that, basically wondering how he had the victim do 158 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: the robbery. Oh, okay, and I'll give you a hint 159 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: how he did that, Elizabeth two words? You ready? 160 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm ready? Aura cleans, Aura cleans. 161 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: Yes, time to meet our players. 162 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm so ready for this. 163 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: Okay. We have the aforementioned victim, who was a domestic servant. 164 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: She was listed in the criminal complaint as Magdalena. We 165 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: don't have a last name on her, We don't even 166 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: really have an age or anything, but we do know 167 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: that she was a house servant, Magdalena. She's presumably middle aged, unmarried, 168 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: lives among wealth, but doesn't really have much of her own, 169 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: and she does have plenty of money, as you will 170 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: find out later on. She was the unwitting accomplice to 171 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: the crimer of our day, the scumbag Florida psychic. He 172 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: went by the stage name of Giovanni. He is a 173 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: psychic online life coach, relationship guru. He is a one 174 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: stop shop for the unlucky and go wile. 175 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: I just don't trust life coaches. 176 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: Oh this dude, he specialized in bad aura. This is him, Elizabeth. 177 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: I want you to get a good gander. Okay, yeah, right, 178 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: Just look at the fist. It's thoughtful underneath the chin 179 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: to let you know he's a thinker. 180 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's a real thoughtful It's. 181 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: Got that Steve Job's energy. 182 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah job jib Yeah. 183 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: That guy, this Florida psychic. He thought he could steal 184 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: ninety million dollars in jewelry and gems are one of 185 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: the richest men in the world, and he'd get away 186 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: with it. He's like he is what we in the 187 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: storytelling industry call an idiot. Now, he's like the real 188 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: life version of do you remember that scene in the 189 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: Dark Knight when Morgan Freeman hears the plans of the 190 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: junior executive who wants to run a con on Bruce Wayne. 191 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something I've never seen it. 192 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll tell you the dialogue. He's like, let 193 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: me get this straight. You think that your client, one 194 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world, 195 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: is secretly a vigilante who spends his nights beating up 196 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: criminals to a pulp with his bare hands, and your 197 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: plan is to blackmail this person. Good luck now for 198 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: this dude. It's like, you know, let me get this straight. 199 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: You think that your mark, one of the wealthiest and 200 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: most powerful men in the world, is actually a straight 201 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: up punk who you can steal from by having one 202 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: of his maids break into his safe when he's not 203 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: home and then bring you his jewels. Fairly Yeah, and 204 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: you think you can get away with this. 205 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: Sure, except we're talking about it so well. 206 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Lastly, I want you to meet our third player in 207 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: this felonious triunk. Yes, one of the wealthiest and most 208 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: powerful men in the world, the former Prime Minister of Qatar, 209 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: shik Ben just sing Ben Jabir Altani. Come on down 210 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: so to give you a little provenance of this man's 211 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: wealth and power. His great uncle founded the country m 212 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: h that he would later rule. He he's the present 213 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: Amirror of Qatar is his cousin. As for his wealth, 214 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: he owns three percent of Deutsche Bank. 215 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, Deutsche Bank. 216 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: Ye, you can find his name lurking in the Panama papers. Yeah, 217 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: those leaked financial documents from the firm Fonseca, the offshore 218 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: tax dodge and all that. He's all up in there. 219 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: One banker said in a news story that I read 220 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: about this shaik and I stress this is an international 221 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: banker who demanded anonymity in the press as a condition 222 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: to speak. He said this as he points out that 223 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: Shai kamaud Altani is truly wealthy, and I quote the 224 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: bankers said, lots of people are worth a couple of billion, 225 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: but it's usually tied up in shares and options. Hbj's 226 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: billions are liquid and extremely valuable assets. He's richer than 227 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: a normal billionaire, Yes, billionaires. 228 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: That's a really good distinction though, because the like I mean, 229 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is supposed to be like, what the richest 230 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: man in the world on paper? 231 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: How many? 232 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's on paper. 233 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like because of the tesla over evaluation 234 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: exactly exactly. 235 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: But if this guy's got it all liquid. 236 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: He has sitting there in gold bars, you. 237 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: Know, and also sits on a pile of gold bars. 238 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: Pretty much. Yeah, I mean the gems you'll see you 239 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: throughout this story. Yeah, he's got like just loose diamonds 240 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: just sitting around. I mean, like just tons of them, 241 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: like necklaces. He forgets about he wants. Purchased Picasso's painting 242 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: The Leafemee de Algier back in twenty fifteen. He made 243 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy nine million dollars for that. At 244 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: the time, that was the most expensive pain. 245 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 246 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: Now in the Panela papers what I mentioned earlier, it 247 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: came out that the shik had spent three hundred million 248 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: dollars on a super yacht. 249 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: Three hundred million dollars on a boat. 250 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: He named it the Almere Cob and then that roughly 251 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: translates to watching watch, But it means that, really I 252 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: looked it up. It's the place like a high hill 253 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: where you would go to watch the boats come and go. 254 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah. 255 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: It's not just like staring at the window. 256 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: And think about that. The yacht is three hundred million dollars, 257 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: but the price of maintaining it in terms of the 258 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: staff and yeah yeah. 259 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the wax oh my god, you're waxing 260 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: all the time. The barnacle scraping. So this dude is 261 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: so wealthy that his son has tried multiple times to 262 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: purchase the English Premier League football club Manchester United. Oh wow, 263 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: the biggest team in the world. He's like, I want 264 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: to buy that. He tried multiple times. I always like no, 265 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: well what number you got this time? No? But anyway, Yeah, 266 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: So this sheik's presence in this story right. Well, also 267 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: he's just like known in the halls of power. He 268 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: could bring down like the craziest, Like he wants bribe 269 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: the King of England. Yes, like there's this is a 270 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: known story like the between twenty eleven and twenty fifteen 271 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: shakeout Ton he gave the then Prince Charles three installments 272 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: or gifts or bribes, whatever you prefer. He gave them. 273 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: Each was a million pounds sterling, and later on the 274 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: Prince like, no, it's. 275 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: From my charity, right Chucky's kids. 276 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. The money was delivered in luxury handbags, so he 277 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: just up a million pounds in like, you know, ermy's 278 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: handbag or whatever. You're gonna bribe someone, that's the way 279 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: to do it. That's classy, right, totally burken handbag. 280 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: Right. 281 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: He also bought the time of former Prime Minister of 282 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: the UK Tony Blair, saying, you know, he's like, he 283 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: paid Blair a million dollars for sixty minutes of his time. 284 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: Oh after that sixteen it is very effective donation because 285 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: afterwards all the parties walked out and they had managed 286 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: to come to together on a deal for a fifty 287 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: billion dollar merger between these two mining operations. So it 288 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: was money well spent. 289 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Meaning yeah, exactly. 290 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: So this man, he's got world leaders on speed dial, 291 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: He's bribed them, he can, he knows the state secret, 292 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: he knows where the bodies are buried. This guy's like 293 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: not the man to mess with. 294 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: Right right, right. 295 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: Along comes some regular old American rifter, Florida psychic CON's 296 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: lonely people online. He's like, that's my next target again, Giovanni, Giovanni. 297 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: So what blows my mind about this is just once 298 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: I would like to have the irrational confidence of a 299 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: Florida man. Could you imagine that? I mean, yes, Elizabeth, 300 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: we know I'm not short on confidence, but could you 301 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: imagine if I had the irrational confidence of a Florida man. 302 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: It's the irrational part of the conference. 303 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 2: Than steal the Mona Louse. I tried to steal the 304 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: whole loover. I gotta lift that out of the ground. Now, okay, 305 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: there's one of the key aspects about the irrational confidence 306 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: of your average Florida man. They don't live anywhere near reality. 307 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if they hover above it or where 308 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: it is that they don't live anywhere near it. So 309 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: this guy, he would get yanked back into reality by 310 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: all of the events that will come to light. Now, 311 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: the story first came into out in dribs and drabs, right. 312 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: It started in August of last year when London and 313 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: New York corporate investigators received this strange call. It was 314 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: from high priced lawyers and they had they were representing 315 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: a very secretive client. Now they are investigators, so they 316 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: went and they figured out who they were working for. 317 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: It turns out that their client was shake hbj right, 318 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: the Hammad Bin Jesse w or Altani, now the former 319 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: Prime Ministry. One of these teams of corporate investigators defined 320 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: seventeen pieces of stolen jewelry. He's tasking with it. And 321 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: there's one fact on their side, which is everyone in 322 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: the diamond business already knew al Tawny he was a whale. 323 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: He was the person that they either feared or they 324 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: wanted his business. This one Antwerp diamond dealer told Vice 325 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: News quote, HBJ is a legend in the diamond industry. 326 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: He's considered a whale as a client. It's well known 327 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: that he's extremely valuable collection. There was another factor on 328 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: the Shak's side, the stolen jewelry. You like, the fancy, 329 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: vivid pink diamond They were all so unique and so 330 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: expensive that most of the legitimate gem dealers as well 331 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: as many of the less scrupulous ones, they wouldn't dare 332 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: touch these gems, right, So of course we're all too 333 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: easily identifiable. So that would make moving the stones difficult, 334 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: but not impossible. So if all this teams of private 335 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: investigators had any chance, they'd have to hustle. So they 336 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: get to work, and would they go to check all 337 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 2: the local places the usual suspects. I'm not sure if 338 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: you know this. If you're looking for stoleman gems, the 339 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: black market is Dubai, Antwerp and New York. Yeah, those 340 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: are the primary spots, all right. So, as one investigator 341 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: later noted to the press, quote, we basically they started 342 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 2: investigating and they said. Quote, that's when things got weird. 343 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: As details became available, it got increasingly surreal. So let's 344 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: take a rich Elizabeth and after this we will dive 345 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: deep into the surreal. 346 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: Now you've got a friend in the diamond business. 347 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: Yes, and we're back. Hey, ready to get stupid with it? 348 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Of course, always I'm dumb. 349 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: So the shake HJV. He had a personal assistant. I 350 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: told you about her, Magdalena. She had what we call 351 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: a sad heart. She had a gullible mind and uh 352 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: Magdalena like she also had the Florida psychic who was 353 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: her life coach. So she had also known for making 354 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: bad choices. Yeah. So this guy, he was on some 355 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: site called Purple Guard. She finds him and this is 356 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: a garden, purple garden. 357 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: Oh, I think the Purple Guard. 358 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: I was like the Purple Guard, Purple Guard, Purple Drink. Yeah, 359 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: she's on that site, Purple Drank. She was on purple 360 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: He was on Purple Guard. And she finds him. Right, 361 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: And this is one of those all in one sites 362 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: that offers you help and life, love, money, you name it, right. 363 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: The site will will connect you with gurus, psychics, life coaches, 364 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: whatever you. 365 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: Need any red flag right now. 366 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 2: One day, August twenty eighteen, Magdalena she finds a psychic 367 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: who she's vibing with. We now know him as Giovanni. 368 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: Now that was his psychic name, his government name, John Lee. 369 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm so excited to find out 370 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: what his real name is. 371 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: It's going to be John Lee, just John Lee. 372 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: He should have just stuck with that, because that's the 373 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of thing. If you google John Lee, you're gonna 374 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: get a ton of it exactly. You know, if you 375 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: have as you know, if you have an interesting name, 376 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: can't dodge that on the Google pretty Yeah. 377 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Magdalena, right as I was saying, she's primarily 378 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: looking for a relationship and love advice. She's a lonely 379 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: middle aged woman or youngish middle aged woman. She's an 380 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: easy mark for a con artist because she firmly believes 381 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: that this guy can help her. Right, So, this flord 382 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: psychic love guru, she thinks he's legit. They spend a 383 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 2: year online, you know, messaging, getting advice. He's telling her stuff. 384 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: She's like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna try this. What do 385 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: you think about that? And he's like, oh, you need 386 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: to try this in clend your spirit this way and 387 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: pray to that. 388 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: And he's like, no, like you try this, don't try this. 389 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: You try this, try this. 390 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: What are you wearing right now? Not try it with 391 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: a tank top on now. Anyway, So they they decide, 392 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 2: like after a year that they're going to have their 393 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: relationship move offline. Oh yeah, So Magdalena is given Giovanni's 394 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: personal contact information. He doesn't do this with all of this. 395 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: She's in the Middle East. 396 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: Correct, she's in Doha. Guitar or cut her, it's both, 397 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: depends on everyone put the emphasis. 398 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 399 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: So the two move into a new dynamic of their 400 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: relationship life guru and acolyte, and they decide this is 401 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: going to work for us. They begin to text, they 402 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: get closer, they use WhatsApp, They start emailing his email. 403 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: By the way, is life coach at Giovanni at gmail 404 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: dot com. 405 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: Did they do devil emojis? 406 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: I didn't see any use of emojis in what I 407 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: did see, like in the criminal complaint. No, but he 408 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: did provide her with banking information. I saw that he 409 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: was quitty quick with here's by banking information. He gave 410 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: her all of his bank account info. Eventually they even 411 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: they did meet in person, if you're wondering, they met 412 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: one time. She was in New York and so was he, 413 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: and so they met briefly. There's a very little mention 414 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: of if you know any sparks or whatever, but they met. 415 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: Then along comes June of last year, twenty twenty two. 416 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: At this point they have been in contact for four years, 417 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: from eighteen August eighteen to twenty twenty two. Okay, the 418 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: Florida's decides he now wants to move the relationship to 419 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: the next level. Yeah, he wants to move them on 420 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: to the level of con man and victim. 421 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like going to Ikea together, going. 422 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: On a vacation together. No, he just liked to move 423 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: into you give me your money, yes, so more of it, 424 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: all of it your boss's money. Like so now Magdaleno, 425 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: she was complaining to him about her general complaint. The 426 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: vibes are off, she can't get her energy's right, she 427 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: can't find a partner to love her. The Florida Psychic 428 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: he's listening and he's assuaging her worried mine. He tells her, 429 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: you know what, I know what the problem is. You've 430 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 2: been talking about this for a while, and I've I've 431 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: had to consult my deeper sources, and I've realized I've 432 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: isolated what the problem is, and i know just what 433 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: to do. She's like, oh, well, what does your psychic solution? 434 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: And Giovanni tells her you need to cleanse the auras 435 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: of your jewelry. She's like what He's like, Oh yeah, 436 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: your rocks they have bad spirits. They hold all this energy, 437 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: and luckily for you, I know how to wipe away 438 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: the bad energies. I can remove them from jewels and gemstones. 439 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: It'sah ont of my strength. So I basically think of 440 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: this way. If you think in herds of crystals, it 441 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: makes a little more sense. He's talking about diamonds. They 442 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: normally think of amethysts, but it would works with Christos. 443 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: Don't you feel like the diamonds would have way bad energy? 444 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: I do think that, Yes, that's me. 445 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean, just like the screaming cries of souls. 446 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the blood diamond aspect. But you know, I 447 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: have to admit I was a rock person right now. 448 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, like a boy, I was 449 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: super into rocks, crystals. I used to make my mom 450 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: stop at rock shops. 451 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh I loved those. Yeah yeah. 452 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: And then I got into like the weird woo woo 453 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: stuff when I was like twelve, and somebody's like, you know, 454 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: you can use these, I'm like, oh really, So I 455 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: tried to like do something with the crystal not nothing 456 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: really happened for me. But I also just wanted to 457 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: be made plain. I am not making front of Magdalena 458 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: in this. No, I'm making fun of Giovanni. 459 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he deserves everything. She's just you know, 460 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: she's doing her things. 461 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: You can find. 462 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: She's a seeker, you can. 463 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: Find answers to the energies and rocks. I ain't gonna 464 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: sweat on you about that. If you're going to take 465 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: advantage of somebody who does that, I'm right there. Line. 466 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: Growing up, we had a rock tumbler going in the 467 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: garage for a while and our neighbors hated us. 468 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: I bet they. And it's so discording because it makes 469 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: no you can't fall into like a cycle a bunch. 470 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: Of stuff in there. We could check it. Oh no, 471 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: not really yet. Day twelve, Oh my. 472 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: God, yes, okay, Well, anyway, but following the instruction of 473 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: her Florida Psychic Magdalena dutifully gathered up all of her 474 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: jewelry and she sent it to America from do Harqatar. Now, 475 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: surprising me when I read this, the con man kept 476 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: her jewelry for a little while and then he sent 477 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 2: it back to her. 478 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: See, yeah, that's the con man thing. Trust. 479 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: Now he's got her trust. Now he tells her it's 480 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: all been cleansed and purified or whatever he is he did. Yeah, 481 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: that's shiny. Now he claims that it was good to 482 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: go and she should have no more trouble with her energies. Right, 483 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: mm hmm. Surprise, surprise, Elizabeth still had bad vibes. The 484 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: vibes were off. 485 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: The vibes are just so off. All she needed is 486 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: one of those ultrasonic jiggle jewelry cleaner things. Oh yeah, 487 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: water and it jiggles all the credit out. 488 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: Well that's right for dustin grime. 489 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: No, that'll clear out those lura and the energies and 490 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: the zappies and the hoosies, all of it. 491 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: She did not have access to one of those, so 492 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: she had to go with the Florida psychic. Yeah. So, 493 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: so she turned to Giovanni and asked her trusted life 494 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: coach what do I do, dear love guru and relationship 495 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: life coach. I have a problem with my rocks. The 496 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: energy still off. He's like, no, no, no, no, it's 497 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: not your rocks. Well, he kept asking her questions. Yeah, 498 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: he's like, yo, you tried this. He's like, I did 499 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: try this. If you tried this, I'll try that tomorrow. Right. 500 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: Eventually they get down through this question and answer session, 501 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 2: he discovers the real problem, the root. They've gotten down 502 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: to it. Elizabeth, Yes, it wasn't her jewelry. It was 503 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: her boss's jewelry, and he had so much more jewelry, 504 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: more bad energy. 505 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: It's really piling up in them. 506 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, just focus bad energy. Exactly. So this 507 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: dude generously offered to cleanse all of the bad energy 508 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: off of her boss's jewelry. 509 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: Such a good guess. What a philanthropist, totally kind heart. 510 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: Now, Magdalena was a little reluctant, as one might be. Yeah, maybe, 511 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: I mean but by at this point though, she he 512 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: pretty much had her complete trust. Right, he knew what 513 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: motivated her, he knew how to work on her psyche. 514 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: So he did exactly that. He went to work on 515 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: her psyche, and he tells her everything she needs to hear, 516 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: and eventually her life coach insisted that it was the 517 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: boss's jewelry and it would have to be climbed. She 518 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: was ever going to know peace and to fine love, right, 519 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: She's like, of course, so she wants all of this. 520 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: Who doesn't, right, So she's like, also, he doesn't want 521 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: to disappoint him. So she's like, what do I got 522 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: to do? So she's like, he's like, you know, send 523 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: it to me. She's like, okay, I'll dutifully comply. So 524 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty two, Giovanni has now convinced her 525 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: to send her her boss's jewelry to be cleansed or 526 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: a cleansed all right, So she's like, well, how do 527 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: I do this? She's like, you know, if you're a psychic, 528 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: can you see how it's going to go? And he's 529 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: like he's like, he's like, well, tell me the layout 530 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: of the place. And she's like, well, he's got security 531 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: in his gem vault. And he's like, okay, I got 532 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: a ready answer for that. She's like, okay, what are 533 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: you going to do? I'll cast a spell. She's like, 534 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: what stop it? Yeah, I'll cast a spell that'll make 535 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: you invisible to the cameras. 536 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: By the power of the move. 537 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: Thank God. Right. So she's like, Okay, I'll tell you 538 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: what damn going to do it? Cast a spell? 539 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: No stop, this is a grown woman. I'm sorry, Magdalena. 540 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: I feel for you. But he's like, I am going 541 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: to remotely cast a spell and make you. 542 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: Invisible take security cameras. 543 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: She is she really like four, the four year old 544 00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: de Sishi. 545 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: She's very trusting Elizabeth. So, this trusting domestic servant of 546 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: the former Prime Minister of Qatar, exactly as her Florida 547 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: psychic told her to do. She planned to snake into 548 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: her boss's private quarterers, locate the safe, open it, snatch 549 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: a bunch of his jewelry, and you know. So, she 550 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: bides her time, waits for her moment. June twelfth comes along, 551 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: takes her ten minutes. The spell the Giovanni, her Florida psychic, 552 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: promised he would cast it did not work. Elizabeth, Yes, 553 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: she showed right up on the video. 554 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: Is this going to be the jewelry flowing? 555 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: One of the best photos of her? Probably? 556 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Anyway, she cast a spell to make her into sharper 557 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: relief exactly. 558 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: Got out backwards. So the security footage recorded that day, 559 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: it shows Magdalena walk into the vault. She goes to 560 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: the vault area right, she's got empty pants pockets. Ten 561 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: minutes later she walks out with a very noticeable bulge 562 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: in her left front pocket. Sometime later after that, she 563 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: went and she boxed up the now stolen jewelry, took 564 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: it down to the local FedEx in Doha and sent 565 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: it from Katar to Florida. She sent a one point 566 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: one pound box of jewelry care of John Lee's ten 567 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: seventy Barry Lane, Davenport, Florida, three three eighty five seven. 568 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wonder who lives in that house now? 569 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 2: No, sorry about that. Inside the box was a forty 570 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: two carrot diamond and two large canary diamonds. 571 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Forty two carrot diamonds. FedEx's like an egg totally. 572 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: It's like an ostrich day. FedEx delivered it to Giovanni. 573 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: What do you think he did, Elizabeth? 574 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: I cleansed it. 575 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 2: He promptly took it to his bank and stored it 576 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: in a safe deposit box. He does his ora cleansing. 577 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: It's a very safe place. You know. 578 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: It helps it's quiet, he's going to have to cut 579 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: it up into smaller pieces, so really very good. 580 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get inside the rocks. So later 581 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: that same month, in June twenty ninths, MAGDALENEA is struck 582 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: for the second time again. She stole a pocket full 583 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: of her bosses jewelry. Box it up, send it to 584 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: her Florida psychic. The package second time far larger, this 585 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: time two point two pounds. It contained some of the 586 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Sheik's prize house pieces. For example, there was a necklace 587 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: in there that had one hundred and fifty diamonds around it. 588 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 589 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that time she sent that package to New Jersey. 590 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: Giovanni was apparently on the road at this point, coincidentally 591 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: just a few hours away from the New York gym dealers, 592 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: So FedEx delivered the package to an address fifty Route 593 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: seventeen North, Suite one thirty five, Paramus, New Jersey, Paramus. 594 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping it would be like the red 595 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: roof fins. 596 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the red roof and all local crime 597 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 2: lords today. One week later, on July sixth, Magdalena hit 598 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 2: the safe again, and this time she spent a one 599 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 2: point five pound box to a florida' psydekick, who by 600 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: then had returned to his home state. Inside this third parcel, 601 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: Elizabeth a twelve carrot canary diamond. That box makes it 602 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: safely to Florida. Giovanni buzz he do. He seizes the 603 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 2: diamonds with all the bad vibes. He rushes down to 604 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: his bank and secrets them away in his aura cleaning 605 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: safety deposit box. But interestingly, there are suddenly fewer rocks 606 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: in the safe deposit box. It seems Giovanni outsourced some 607 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: of his aura cleansing work to a jewelry business in Florida. 608 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, you know, back in June, he'd sold 609 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 2: some of the jewels he reached gaved four checks from 610 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: a jewelry firm for One of the checks was for 611 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars that was found in the safe deposit 612 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: box later on. I forgot to tell you Giovanni was 613 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: also receiving fifty thousand dollars from Magdalena. With each package. 614 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: She was sending him a check for fifty thousand dollars 615 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: to cleanse the aura of the rocks. Oh god, that's 616 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: what he charged for his our services. 617 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: He had the check in the safe, I mean deposit that. 618 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: Don't Yeah, I know, right, but whatever. So now basically, 619 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: this guy, I don't know if two hundred thousand dollars 620 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: sounds like a lot to you for. 621 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: Our cleansing sounds like a hell of a lot. 622 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: Prior to this, she'd already given him one hundred and 623 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars over the first four years of him 624 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: just giving her life advice. 625 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: Where's she getting this money? 626 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: Well paid, I guess being a domestic servant for the 627 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: former guitar pays well. 628 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 629 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: So either way, the amount of jewelry she was sending 630 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: him at this point, you could weigh it in pounds, like, 631 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: it's just straight up wrongs. So Megdalena, she's you know, 632 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: she's suspicious. Eventually she contacts him and she's like, hey, Giovanni, 633 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't we be sending back my boss's clean rocks? And 634 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: he tells her, oh, by August, right, this is like 635 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: late July at this point, right now, Magdalena has she 636 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: breaks into her boss is safe one more time. She 637 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: grabbed one last pocket full of gems, sends another box 638 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: to her Florida psychic. So all told, this is four 639 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: boxes of jewelry. Now, according to Vice News, Magdalena sent 640 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: this roughly ninety million dollars worth of jewelry via fed 641 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: X and she never insured any of it. Oh god, 642 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: she didn't even require a signature upon delivery. 643 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: God. See that's the thing, Like I can see if 644 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: it's like I trust you because you know, she's not 645 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: the owner like they wanted. 646 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: But like the signature, I thought you could get on 647 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: that one. 648 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: Just sitting on a porch. 649 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I mean by she's trusting. She 650 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: trusts fed X, she trusts her psychic life coach. She 651 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: just trusts exactly. But anyway, more time passes, and guess what, 652 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: Elizabeth the Florida psychic doesn't return any of the jewelry. Oh, 653 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: Magdalenay reaches out to Giovanni, and she's growing worried that 654 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: her boss will discover the missing gem in his vault. 655 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: Giovanni he tells Magdalena, look, chill, you just need to 656 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: like find your chill, right, just relax, find your sense. 657 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on over there, but like 658 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: this is not going to help. So he was like 659 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: going off the town her. Basically, look, I'm cleansing Oris 660 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: as fast as I can. There's a lot of rocks 661 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: over here, a lot of work, a lot of energy 662 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: stuff you can't quite understand. 663 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: You cannot force the snake to shed its skins. 664 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: Eric, exactly, a lot of ends, a lot of outs. 665 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: It's just you know, daunting work. Yeah, except Dante, who 666 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: could he be? Who is he to say when the 667 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: rain will come? 668 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: Exactly? 669 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: So he told her he should be done, most likely 670 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 2: with all the stones by the time, Magdalene and her 671 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: boss were traveling to CON's in August. So Giovanni's like, okay, 672 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: how about this off flyover, I'll meet you and Cons. 673 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: I'll personally hand deliver you all the rocks. I bet now, 674 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: if you can believe, Elizabeth, that's not what happened. 675 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: You're kidding, I know, right, I was so trusting for 676 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: a moment there. 677 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's take a little break and when we're back, 678 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what did happen next. So set chill, Elizabeth, 679 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: let's see what's going on and heat inside. 680 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: Breathe. 681 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back. All right, Elizabeth, we're back. Hi, 682 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: good to see you're feeling good. Are you feeling centered? 683 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm feeling centered. 684 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm breathing your anxiety about all of the stolen rocks? 685 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: Is it kind of abated? 686 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: It's just I've let it soak out of me and 687 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: into the carpet. Perfect breathe through step on the part 688 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: of the carpet. 689 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: So where were we? Oh, that's right, Cons France. Okay, 690 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: have you ever been to cons? 691 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: No, I've not. 692 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: I've never been either. 693 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: But uh so is this is this? When did they go? 694 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: And in August? That's not when the film earlier in 695 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: the are yet? 696 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? So this is like late when they're doing like 697 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: local events. 698 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: Okay, we've had criminals. 699 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: Sure, it's a great place to go. It's French revery. Ara. 700 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: I recommend it to anybody, sure, especially criminals. Now we're 701 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: gonna go there, Elizabeth, because in order to tell you 702 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: what happens next, I'd like you to close your eyes. 703 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: Yes, as a close and picture. 704 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: You are in Khans, France. It's the resort town talked 705 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: into the iconic French Riviera. Seabirds are off in the distance, 706 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: Waves lap against boats at anchor. A light breeze animates 707 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 2: the air. You are presently on the Boulevard de la Croissette, 708 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: the wide avenue that skirts the coastline, and when's past 709 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: the luxury hotels, the resort fronts, the picturesque cafes, the 710 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: beach is there just a stone's throwaway at the moment 711 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: you were on the run. Yeah, you've had to light 712 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: out after you made a mess of things at your 713 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: previous job as a tour guide at Buckingham Castle. You 714 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: made the mistake of calling King Charles a Nepo baby 715 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: and you were summarily fired. Now you're in cons laying 716 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: low the beach resort town. It's a nice place to 717 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: recover momentum. You found work at a cute little cafe 718 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: on the classett. You're working as a waitress in this 719 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: charming little seaside cafe. At your table four or in 720 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: French table clat, you spy a youngish, middle aged woman 721 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: seated by herself. She's been preoccupied with her phone, barely 722 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: looking up. She seems agitated. You watch her for a moment, 723 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 2: worried as you wait for an order to come up. 724 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: She puts her phone down on the table and then 725 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: almost immediately picks it back up and checks it again. 726 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: She does not see what she wants to see. That 727 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: much seems clear. You handle the few tables you have. 728 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: You bring out some plates of sumptuous fair, you refresh 729 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: water glasses, and then you go and check on tabla plat. 730 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: You refill the agitated woman's water glass, and then sort 731 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: of hover and ask her in French if everything is 732 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: all right? She answers. In English, you're like, oh, thank god. 733 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: She looks up at you with tears about to fall. 734 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: She just says, he won't return my calls, he won't 735 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: answer my text. You think you understand the problem. So 736 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: in English you tell her he's not worth it, that 737 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: she's fine on her own, she doesn't need someone who 738 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: doesn't see her for who she is. 739 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. 740 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: She looks up at you and she says, no, no, no, no, 741 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 2: he has the jewels, all of the jewels. Oh you 742 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: change gears, he asked, he stole your jewels. No, she says, 743 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: he sent all mine back. Now you're totally confused. Luckily, 744 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: she continues, he has the jewels in my boss. Your 745 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 2: confusion is growing at an exponential rate at this point, 746 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: so you ask her is he here in comms? No, 747 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 2: he lied to me, she says. The tears continue to fall. 748 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: Is he supposed to bring you the jewels. You follow up, 749 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: She now says, through free rolling tears, HI, what's at him? 750 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: I text him? I phoned him, I contact a purple Garden. 751 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: He is a psychic. He must know how I'm feeling. 752 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: A psychic stole your boss's jewels? No, I take them. 753 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 2: I send the jewels to him. So then you stole 754 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: your boss's jewels. You're still trying to make sense of everything. Yeah, no, 755 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: I would never steal, she says. He steals it, but 756 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: he says to come to cons he give the jewels 757 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: back to me, but he's not here. And now my 758 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: boss he's going to find out. I will go to jail. 759 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: And before she finishes speaking, her phone Vibrate is on 760 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: the table a new message. You both look at the phone. 761 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: You want to hear what this woman has got to say. 762 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: It checks the message. You're hooked. You have to know 763 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: what the scumbag has to say. You ask, is it him? 764 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 2: She says nothing. You're totally in it. Now you're waiting. 765 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: You fall up? What did he say? She reads the 766 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 2: message aloud. He writes to me, please stop, I do 767 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: not know what you were talking about. I don't think 768 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: you need a psychic. You need a psychiatrist. God bless you, 769 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: please stop harassing me. 770 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, you don't. 771 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: Know what to say now. You look around at your 772 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: other tables. You don't say anything. You just kind of 773 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 2: melt into the background as the woman just stares at 774 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: the text message. God bless you, he said, yicks, that 775 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: was a legitimate text message she received. 776 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I like, you don't need a psychic, you need 777 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: a psychiatrist. 778 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: Yes, stang okay, that was his kiss off, like gaslighting, goodbye, yeah, 779 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: yeah exactly. So what you don't see in this moment 780 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: is Magdalender now will rush back to her luxury hotel 781 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: where she and her boss are staging, and she confesses 782 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: everything to shake al Tawny. Uh uh, and he shake 783 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: al Maddie And so where does Giovanni, the Florida Psychic 784 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: and the stolen diamonds? That's what shake al Tonie wants 785 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 2: to know. So meanwhile, back at the ranch, and by 786 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: the ranch, I mean the shady wholesale gem dealers of 787 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey, that's where the Florida Psychic is. 788 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 2: So he was busy, busy, busy, Elizabeth. He was trying 789 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: to move ninety million dollars worth of jewelry as fast 790 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: as his greedy little hands could find them a new buyer. 791 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I feel like the shake is 792 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: going to the is gonna find you no matter what. 793 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. It's just a matter of like, do 794 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: his people find. 795 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: That much money? Yes, you can find anyone anywhere. 796 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and will take the time to find you. There's 797 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: no like, Oh, I've been gone for eighteen months. He 798 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: should probably stop looking. You took ninety million dollars on 799 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: a man who doesn't like to be embarrassed. 800 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: He just had power exactly. 801 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: So anyway, he's meanwhile out there, he's moved to the fancy, 802 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: vivid pink diamond. He's able to get that one. Yeah, 803 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: he turns that it's it's valued at thirty one million 804 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 2: dollars roughly on the market. He sells it for eight 805 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: million dollars in watches and loose diamonds. 806 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 807 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: Yes, two dealers, he finds. They make a trade. They 808 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: understand he wants to move quickly so and they also 809 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: want to make their own big score. 810 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. 811 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: They find a diamond cutter and they ask him to 812 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: turn the one large pink rock into two smaller, less 813 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: recognizable but still vivid and fancy. Of course, now they 814 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: wanted to be cut into a thirteen carrot and a 815 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: three carrot diamond. Okay, right, So the diamond cutter took 816 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: the diamond. He gets to work, he breaks up the 817 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 2: fancy vivid he's so smitten with his work. He has 818 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: to buy in on the deal. So he becomes a 819 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: one eighth owner of the thirteen carrot stunner. 820 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: Oh god. 821 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: He creates new registry numbers for the two new diamonds. 822 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: So now they are recertified with the GIA and everything 823 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 2: looks legit. So now they have the legit paperwork. What 824 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: did the diamond dealers do, Elizabeth, Well, they and the 825 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 2: diamond cutter they approach Christie's auction house about a big new, 826 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 2: high profile sale. Folks from Christmas auction house or they're 827 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 2: seeing money, so their eyes are going like cartoon wooga right, 828 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: oh yeah, thirty five million dollar stone line right up, 829 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: we'll diget the paperwork half ready. So they set a 830 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: date for the auction. They start making all these pipe 831 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: and these plans. They're going to display this pink dime 832 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: before potential buyers in Hong Kong, New York. Yeah, yeah, 833 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: then the FBI comes in. Everything comes to a screeching halt. 834 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 2: Everything suddenly is turned criminal and people go scattering looking 835 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: for the exits. No one had dollars dancing in their 836 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: eyes anymore. Suddenly I have to like, oh, who's going 837 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 2: to jail? So this investigation is still ongoing. The diamond 838 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: dealers are still under investigation because there was so many involved. 839 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: The stones went all over the place. So now that 840 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 2: we've caught up to where we came in, the FBI 841 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 2: walks into Christie's auction house es as the stone. Hey, 842 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 2: the g men. They managed to find and recover the 843 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: stolen rock. Did they recover Giovanni? What do you think? Yes, well, 844 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. Sticking with Christie's auction house, 845 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 2: who doesn't need another blemish on their record? They were 846 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: happy to cooperate with the authorities, I'm sure. 847 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 848 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 2: The FBI agents also had assistance from the Sheik's team 849 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 2: of private investigators, who were very effective. There was multiple 850 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: of them, and they were able to quickly find and 851 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: capture Giovanni aka John Lee. He was arrested two days 852 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving. Oh yeah, he got to spend it behind bars. 853 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: So the FBI located the Florida psychic and arrested him 854 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: on charges of mail and wire fraud, charges of interstate 855 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 2: transport of stolen goods. And they were able to seize 856 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 2: all of the cash and diamond and gold bars, luxury watches, 857 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: loose diamonds that he had traded or stolen. 858 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: Wow. 859 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 2: Yes, well not all. The fancy pink diamond was cut 860 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: down and had been sold, but it was eventually located. 861 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 862 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: They also they seized four million dollars that he'd received 863 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: in exchange for one of the forty two carrot diamond 864 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 2: rings and the one hundred and fifty loose diamonds that 865 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: he'd pried out of the one hundred and three carrot 866 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 2: diamond necklace. Right. All in all, the FBI and the 867 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: private investigators were able to track down most of the jewelry. 868 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: Some of it is still out there, so wow, good 869 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 2: luck with that. There are no reports on all of 870 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 2: the jewelry. Some of it is lost to the black market. 871 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: And I don't think he actually cleansed the auras of 872 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: the ones that are still out there, So. 873 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm anywhare Yeah, exactly, you're getting rocks. It'll may mess 874 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: up your whole life. Every day he got going. Look 875 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: what happened to him? He just had him for a 876 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: very little time. So now what about our original gulible galpal, Magdalena. 877 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, what of Magdalena? 878 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 2: Well, what became of her? Elizabeth? Well, we can't imagine 879 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: that her boss, Shaik Altani, was particularly pleased with her 880 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: stealing ninety million dollars of jewelry from him. But so 881 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: according to the reporting I've read, Magdalena is in Qatar, 882 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 2: where she remains. She has not been saddled with any 883 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: criminal charges. The US has not done anything with her. 884 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: Everyone's saying that, you know, apparently she gave a very 885 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: lengthy debriefing to the Sheik's private investigators. Yeah, and she 886 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 2: was cleared, despite people saying, is this an inside job? 887 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 2: I mean, she wasn't like his romantic partner. But when 888 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: they look through all of the text in exchange, we're like, 889 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, not at all. No, this poor 890 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: sweet summer child. I can't believe she can get out 891 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: of the door that's locked anyway. See, that's pretty much 892 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: the last anyone is seen as her. So as far 893 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 2: as you was the thirties of concerned, she is not 894 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: a criminal. Now, some were skeptical, as I said, she 895 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 2: could be so naive. Now, one private investigator he did say, 896 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: quote everyone who saw the file first assumed that there 897 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,959 Speaker 2: must be a good chance of her involvement. It's hard 898 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: to swallow her story. But as I wateringly naive as 899 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 2: it seems, consider that he did groom her for four years, 900 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 2: established intimate trust, and was provided with her most intimate details. 901 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 2: And it appears that she's got an isolated life as 902 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 2: a foreign guest worker professionally devoted to a very rich 903 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 2: and powerful man. A professional grifter like Giovanni seeks out isolated, lonely, 904 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: somewhat naive people like this. She was essentially the perfect Mark. 905 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, completely was the perfect Mark. 906 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 2: And boh Man, he found a gold mine in Magdalena. 907 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah he did. 908 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 2: And Mandity missus Mark when he tried to rob it. 909 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: Just man, it's like it'd be like his plan was basically, 910 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take ninety million dollars of diamonds and I 911 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: guess I'll go to New York and see if I 912 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: can sell them there. I just, yeah, you gotta have 913 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 2: buyers lined up who have a personal grudge against the shake. 914 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: I mean people who are equally well, and who were like, man, 915 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: screw that guy, I want his dime. 916 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: But look at all our other gem thieves who managed 917 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: to you know, either some of them got caught, but 918 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: a lot of them did the pink panthers. A lot 919 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: of them didn't. And most of those gems weren't recovered, 920 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: you know. And because they took them to the right people. 921 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 2: And they had a plan for them the whole time. 922 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: It wasn't just like the aura, but and they didn't 923 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: do the whole like, just give me the stones, just 924 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 2: get them over y'all, take. 925 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: Care of the invisible and then it's sttally cool. 926 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 2: I'll cast spells. 927 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: Don't the best. 928 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: So this was reading this story, it kept reminding me 929 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: of the time that I made my own jean shorts cutoffs. 930 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: Wait oh shorts Yeah, well not. 931 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: Like georts, but like you know, like I cut off 932 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: shorts jean. 933 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: Shorts, like short enough so that the pocket could show. 934 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, like real daisy producer day, like like I was showing. 935 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: Do you still have them? 936 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 2: No? 937 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: No, I say you should wear them next time we 938 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: come to record. 939 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, It did not turn out well those shorts 940 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 2: were they seemed like a good idea at the time. 941 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: Wait, how last year? 942 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, I was like fourteen. I thought they're great 943 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: for the summer. Yeah, it'd be safer to pretend yea 944 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 2: fourteen Yeah, like yeah it was. It was rough. And 945 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: also then I put bleach, I poured. I wanted them 946 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: to be able to bleach, so I just hear them. 947 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 2: I cut them and then I threw I didn't look. 948 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: I didn't like put them on and cut them. I 949 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: just cut them blind, threw them in the thing, and 950 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: then I put the bleach on top and I hit wash, 951 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 2: pulled him out and they just look like polka dotted 952 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 2: bleach spotted and then frayed but uneven and the pockets 953 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 2: and showing you know, I didn't even wear them out 954 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 2: of the house was totally I cut it blind. I 955 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 2: had no idea. I was like, yeah, this looks right, 956 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: you know. 957 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: Straight across. 958 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 2: I didn't get them together like you're on the ship, 959 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 2: cut one and cut the other, like like I looked 960 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 2: on a tilt, you know, like there you go, that's 961 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 2: reading this story. That's what I kept thinking. I'm like, 962 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: dude's my jean shorts? 963 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: Did you another pair for your birthday? 964 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: So I ruined a pair of Jean Shorts. He ruined 965 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: his life anyway. What's our ridiculous takeaway, isn't it? 966 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that if anyone ever tells you don't 967 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: worry about it, I'll just make you visit casting a spell. 968 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: You need to stop and just reconsider every moment that got. 969 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,959 Speaker 2: You to that point, your life choices, whole. 970 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: Thing, Saren. What's your takeaway? 971 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: Whoa look at you? My ridiculous takeaway is thank you 972 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,479 Speaker 2: for asking Elizabeth. Of course, if you're going to trust 973 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: a man named Giovanni, right Giovanni, No, No, nothing about 974 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 2: that I'm saying. But if he has only one name 975 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 2: and he just tells you, like my name is Giovanni, right, 976 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't have a last name, He's like Madonna or Share. 977 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 2: He's got one name. If he doesn't have a pop 978 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: album you can buy, don't trust him. 979 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good takeaway. 980 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: That's it. 981 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: That's mine good life advice. You should be a life coach. 982 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm presently a relationship guru. So yeah, that's 983 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 2: that's how I afforded this for you well. 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