1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This episode is also available as video on YouTube. You 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: can visit Nora Jones channel and be sure to subscribe 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: while you're there. Hey, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: playing along with Lady Ray. I'm just playing long Weuy, 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm just playing in lone wey. 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Hi. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: I'm Nora Jones. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show with me, as always is my 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: co host Sarah Oda. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 4: Hello, welcome to our show. We have an amazing episode today. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 4: We have the soulful singer songwriter with music that spans gospel, 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 4: R and B hip hop, the incredible Lady Ray. Her 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: latest album, Cover Girl, came out last fall in twenty 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: twenty five. Stay tuned for some music from that. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: This was so fun. 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm such a fan of hers and I know her 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: through our mutual producer friend Leon Michaels, and I just 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: love the work they've done together on the last few albums. 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: And we had so much fun. Yeah. 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, In this episode, you're gonna hear about her unique 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: history in this music industry and kind of the different paths. 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: She had to navigate to get to where she is today. 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's been in it for a long time and 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: her story is really interesting. 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: Plus beautiful duets, including a new take on one of 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: your songs. 27 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was really fun. So stay tuned, Stay tuned, 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: and enjoy the episode with Lady Ray. 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: I used to never warm up, but. 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 5: I just kind of started vocal coach. Now, Oh yeah, 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 5: it's very good. 32 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Have you been losing your voice a lot? 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: Okay? 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 5: And I said, when I write this album, I'm not 35 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 5: gonna get carried away. 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: And I still got carried away. 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 6: Ah. 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 5: And I told my mom, Mom, I was like, when 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 5: you perform China to push so hard. 40 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: I was like, Mom, the songs require me to push, 41 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: and well, you're feeling it. I'm feeling it. 42 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 5: And I'm like, I tried to write songs that are 43 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 5: kind of like low and register and not too but 44 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: I just I failed again. 45 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: Got all right, what you feel? 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 7: All right? 47 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: You're right. I was like, maybe we're live. 48 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 5: I will try to kind of keep it in the 49 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 5: back of my mind when I'm writing, to not go 50 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: so hard with the but it happens every time. 51 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: It's the church of me, it's the church in you. 52 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: That's fine. Definitely the church of me. It lives in me. 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, God doesn't want you to whisper it. 54 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 3: He does not. I'm gonna tell my mom that God 55 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: doesn't want me to whisper. 56 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: That's right, tell her tell her that, yeah, well you won't. 57 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: How's that, well you won't too low? 58 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 5: No, that's perfect, you can have Yeah, yeah, we're eda 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: James vibe. 60 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: Huh sweet? I like that. Oh see, so much better 61 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: for the piano. Yes, I see, bro, I can't. Okay, 62 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: I didn't do well in music. I didn't do well 63 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 3: at all. 64 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 8: Really. 65 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: I was like, I'll just stick the singing. It was 66 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: not good for me. 67 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 8: What did you do? 68 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: I did piano at a at a young age, and 69 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 5: when I was in course, I was I just couldn't 70 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 5: never understand the music, like the notes and the key. 71 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: I just couldn't read it. And my brother he just soared. 72 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 5: He played the trumpet so he could read music very well, 73 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 5: and I just struggled. So I was just like I 74 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 5: want to try and get back into it. But I'm 75 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: just like, I don't know if the age and just 76 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 5: me just being all over the place. When I was younger, 77 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: I think I was more you know, focused. 78 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now I don't know. 79 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 80 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe maybe you're you have a daughter, right, I do, 81 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: Maybe he's gonna do it. 82 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: Maybe you could do it together. Yeah, that would be cute. 83 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: She would be actually fun. 84 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's gonna do. 85 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 5: School of Rock when I get back homework on I 86 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 5: sign I wrote for that. 87 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: Do they have that here? Yeah, that's so cute. I 88 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: didn't know that was a thing. It's cute. 89 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: They also switched them around on instruments, which is kind 90 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: of sweet. 91 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 92 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: Oh, she's gonna love it. Let me get a chance 93 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: to like try everything. I will try everything. She loved 94 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: the movie. She loved them. Oh, that's like one of 95 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: the best movies. It's the best movie ever. It makes 96 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: me cry. 97 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: I know. 98 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: It is such a great film. It's so good and 99 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: I love Jack Black. 100 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Who oh god, it's the best. We should have done 101 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: a Tennise Stea cover. I mean I should have said that. 102 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were into the date. 103 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 3: There we go. What you want. 104 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 5: You can't have putting your heart in my hand. I've 105 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 5: been waiting, follering. Man, we've come to fall by faith. 106 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 5: We've come to fall by faith. Come on in, Come 107 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 5: on in, come on, come on in, baby, coming to 108 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 5: my life. We don't have a lot of time hoping 109 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: we can get it. 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Right. 111 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 8: I can tell you don't to lie. So come on, oh. 112 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't dream dreaming color. 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: Don't you listen. 114 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 8: To the nay say y'all said the boy? 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: Shut high the teller. We've come to fall by faith. 116 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: We come too far, Nora, and we come to five 117 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 5: by faith. 118 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: Come on in m hm. 119 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: See there, I'll find. 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: You where you are. 121 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 9: I know that is arising in thus starts. 122 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 5: So come on in, come on in, come on in, 123 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 5: come on in. Yeah, baby coming to my mind. We 124 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: don't have a lot of time open, we can get 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 5: it and a ride. I continue your doc to lie. 126 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 5: Come on, come on, a wedding for you, so I 127 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: want you come on in a come on, come on, 128 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 5: come on, come on, come on in m I won't 129 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: you to come on? 130 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 8: And I've been waiting for a baby a come on, 131 00:07:51,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 8: come on, come on, come on in hm, come on. 132 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on? 133 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 8: Did I no you didn't corfect? 134 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: Yay, yay, that's good. That is fun to play. You 135 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 3: did that early on with Leon? I did that early on. 136 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: Was that your first record with him? Your second? 137 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 5: That was my second record. The first one was Queen Alone. Okay, yeah, 138 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: that was fun too. That was right after I did 139 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 5: to do it with Terry Walker from London. We did 140 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: an album together titled Lady. 141 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 3: Nice, and I just took the name Lady and just 142 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: tagged my last name on the end of it. I 143 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: was like, I'm keeping that name. 144 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 2: I like it. 145 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 3: It sounds good, it's vibe. I think people love that. 146 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: I love it. 147 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just tagged my last name on and you 148 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: have a cool last name. Yeah, well my last name 149 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 5: is changed because I'm married now. It's the cop it's different. 150 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: It's the coat Ray rayvect. 151 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 8: Ighth. 152 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: Melodis like, Mom, but you can't hear the w Yeah. 153 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: I was like, it's silent. 154 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: You have kind of an interesting history in the music industry, 155 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: very interesting. 156 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been going for a long time. 157 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 158 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: The engine that could amazing. 159 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 8: Yeah it is. 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 3: I started in the late nineties with Missy Elliott. 161 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 162 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 5: It's so crazy because back then it was it was 163 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 5: no like crazy social media or nothing. It's just like 164 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 5: back then, you either meet the celebrities or you just 165 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 5: kind of like figure it out or go to New 166 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 5: York and just go to labels. And you know, back 167 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 5: then Missy actually lived like right down the street from 168 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 5: me and my brother in Portsmouth. That's where I'm from, Virginia, Virginia. 169 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: She lived and I didn't know who she was. I 170 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: had no idea. 171 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 5: I was about sixteen when I met Missy and she 172 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 5: went to the high school, like right down the street, 173 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: and they had like a talent show, and so Missy 174 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 5: was there and my brother and his group. 175 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: They performed. 176 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: My brother's a singer too, and She's like, well, you 177 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 5: guys sound great, but I'm looking. 178 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: For a girl singer. And my brother was like, my sister, 179 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: she can sing. And this is when the landlines were 180 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: really popular. He gave us. 181 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 5: He gave her our house phone, and she called the 182 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: house and talked to my mom. And I was over 183 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 5: at my friend's house and I remember my mom was like, 184 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: it's a girl over. Her name is Missy Elliott and 185 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: she wants to meet you. 186 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: And I'm like who. 187 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 5: And I remember walking we made like this path because 188 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: we would walk to school and it's this little dirt 189 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 5: path and I remember walking, I'm like, this might be 190 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: my chance. 191 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: You know, back then, it was just so. 192 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 5: Exciting, you know, to get into the music industry and 193 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 5: you know, reading magazine. Everything was just like it's a mystery. 194 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 5: Now everything is like right in your face. I remember 195 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 5: getting in the house and she's there. She had like 196 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 5: her little those ocean fingerwaves, and she's there and she's 197 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 5: like she has a magazine. She's like, I heard you 198 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: can sing, and I'm like yeah. She's like sing something 199 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 5: for me, and I sung week s w V. I 200 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: ain't get it, so she was like, oh, she's like girl. 201 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: She said. 202 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 5: She called me the young Mary g Bloge back then. 203 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 5: She was like, you remind me of a young Mary. 204 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 205 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: And I think from that moment I just stuck to her, 206 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: like we were this inseparable. And she said, when I 207 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: get my record deal, I'm gonna get you a record 208 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 5: deal too. I was like her little sister, that's amazing, 209 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: I got a record deal. I remember flying here to 210 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 5: New York to meet Sylvia Own of Electra Records, and 211 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 5: I was so nervous. 212 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: I got on the airplane. 213 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 5: My mom was my manager back then, and I was 214 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: just like, I'm going to meet Sylvia Own. 215 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know who she was either, but I was 216 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: just so excited. 217 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: I saw the lights and everything in New York, little 218 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 5: country Bumpkin from Virginia and I get here, I'm just 219 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 5: so excited. And we just started working on the album 220 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 5: back in Virginia Master Sound Studios. 221 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: Wow. 222 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 5: And she introduced me to Pharrell. I worked with Jimmy 223 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 5: jam and Terry Lewis, everybody. I'm just like Wow. From there, 224 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: I just kept growing growing. I was never writing anything, 225 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: just you know, just a muse. 226 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: You know. 227 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: Put out my first album in nineteen ninety eight with 228 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 5: Missy Elliott titled Make It Hot, and that did very 229 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 5: very well, and I started touring right away. 230 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: Was in school in high you were in high school? 231 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: Were you still in high school? 232 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 5: I was in high school when when my album dropped 233 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 5: video came out. I was in the cafeteria with my 234 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: lunch trade, and I always I was always telling everybody 235 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: I do music, I make, I make. I met Fath 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 5: Faith Evans, I met Little Kim and you know, I 237 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 5: felt Biggie small. 238 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: Son and you were They were like, no, you don't 239 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: you know. 240 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: And I'm in the cafeteria, never forget it. I'm walking 241 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 5: with my trade and they let us watch music videos. 242 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: I went to like my school was called Booker T Washington. 243 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: It was like lean on me. I'm telling you the. 244 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 5: Movie that my school too, and that was yeah, it 245 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 5: was like it was it was just like the movie 246 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: Lean on Me, Get those chains off the door. 247 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god. It was crazy. 248 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: But I remember just being in the cafeteria and everybody 249 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: just swarmed around the TV and like that shit, that's 250 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 5: her right there. And I think from that moment, I 251 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 5: was like, Okay, I think I've I've made it. And 252 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 5: then the journey, the journey began, right, you know. I start, 253 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 5: you know, going through my musical journey, working with different 254 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 5: artists and producers, and that outlived itself and I went 255 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 5: from there, from Missy Elliott to Rockefeller Records. Like maybe 256 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 5: I want to say maybe maybe about I want to 257 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 5: say maybe seven years later, five or seven maybe five 258 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 5: or seven years later after Missy Elliott? 259 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: How many records did you make with Missy? 260 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: I made one record and I start went one more, 261 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 5: but it never saw the light of day. And everybody's 262 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 5: asking me, are you gonna put this album out? 263 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know. It's just a pain. 264 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 5: But everybody knows that I worked on. This album was 265 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 5: titled Electric Blue, and it was beautiful music. And I'm like, 266 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 5: you know, when you're young, and you're like new in 267 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 5: the industry. You're kind of jaded. 268 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 3: You don't know. 269 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 5: I didn't know the industry, and I was just like, 270 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 5: I just want to put my music out, you know, 271 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 5: And I'm thinking about it now. 272 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know, that door was open. It 273 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: was a beautiful door. I walked through that door. I 274 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: did the thing. The door shut. Now it's a new door. 275 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: So now I look at it like that. It's hard 276 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 3: to go back in time. Yeah, it's very hard. It's 277 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: easy to stressful. It's easy for someone else to want 278 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: to do it, but it's hard for it. It's hard 279 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: for me, you to do it. Yeah, it's just like 280 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: I can't live there. 281 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: Did that album get lost in the washing machine of 282 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: the music industry? 283 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: It did? It did? It got lost? 284 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 5: And some songs surfaced on the internet. And then I 285 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 5: have my crazy fans and they're like, will you please 286 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 5: put this music out. I'm just like, I have no 287 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: control over this album. And so I went from there 288 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 5: and I started working with the most notorious rap label ever. 289 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: I remember just being in my. 290 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: Sister house like I was. I was down and out 291 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: and I saw it. 292 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: I was up, like in the week hours of the 293 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: morning and the videos came on and I remember it 294 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: was just Philadelphia scene. It was Beanie Seagal, Freeway and 295 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 5: all of those rappers. I was like, I want to 296 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: be signed to that record label. I don't know what 297 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: made me want to, Well, I do because I always 298 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: love hip hop. I love me some hip hop. I started. 299 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: My first love was hip hop. You know, as a kid, 300 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 5: my brother put me onto hip hop, and I think 301 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: that's probably what it was. And I felt like it 302 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: would be a place where I can thrive, I can write, 303 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: I could kind of just be myself. 304 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: And my wish came true. I manifested it. Somehow. 305 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: I ended up in New York again, in the big city, 306 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: and I'm just hanging out with this girl and she 307 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: was so cool. She knew some people over at Rockefeller 308 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: and she was like, I'm gonna take you over there. 309 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 5: I think they would love you. 310 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: And I was like, are you kidding me? Just like that, 311 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: I met Damon. 312 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 5: Dash and I had a dream about him many years 313 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 5: before I met him, many years and he had I 314 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: think it dated Aaliyah and she was part of our 315 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 5: camp rest her soul, beautiful, beautiful person, and I just 316 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: was like, well, am meeting Damon Dash. I don't know 317 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 5: if he's gonna want to sign me because I'm a 318 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: singer and they have all rappers. But he heard some 319 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: music that I was doing in the studio with the 320 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 5: A and R over there. He was like, I heard 321 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 5: your music. Let's talk and I was like, okay, I 322 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 5: know what that means. And we talked, and next thing 323 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 5: you know, I'm in the studio working on albums. I 324 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: did like two albums and none. 325 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: Of them came None of them came out, only like 326 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: one or. 327 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: Two singles came out. 328 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 5: So because that situation was, you know, jay Z was 329 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: leaving and I was just coming in and I didn't 330 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 5: know what was happening over there. And I remember going 331 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 5: home and so excited, and I got the news on 332 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: the internet. That's when the Internet was like popping like 333 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 5: social media back then, and it was like, oh, jay 334 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 5: Z's leaving Rockefeller, Damon Dash is taking some artists, and I'm. 335 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: Like, hum, like here we go again. What does this mean? 336 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: What does this mean for me and my dreams and everything? 337 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 5: And yeah, I felt I was just like wow, I 338 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: had to go back to the drum board again. 339 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: Were you crushed. Were you like devastating? 340 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: I was devastated because this is one thing that I 341 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: really I really loved it there. 342 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: I thought that they accepted me, all of me. They 343 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: let me be me. 344 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: It was fun, you know, I was I was always 345 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 5: in the studio working with some great producers and it 346 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 5: was just fun. And I just was like, and I 347 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 5: was a big fan, still a big fan of jay Z, 348 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: and I met him and I just didn't know what 349 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: was going on, and I was crushed. Yeah, and then 350 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: I had to go back to the drum board. And 351 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: this is where I found myself. Two thousand and six, 352 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: I went back to Virginia, packed my stuff up, and 353 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 5: I moved down to Atlanta. 354 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: And I was just like, what do I do now? 355 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: I don't I didn't know a soul in Atlanta. You 356 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: just music. They said music is driving here, and it was. 357 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 3: It was thriving there. 358 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: And I didn't know anybody there. My mom actually had 359 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: moved there. She was the only one there that I knew. 360 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: Well that's person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just like, well, 361 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: she's not a. 362 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,239 Speaker 5: Producer and she doesn't have a studio, so what are 363 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 5: we gonna do? Have some tea and I'm like, well, 364 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: my mom is here and I'm here, and I got 365 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 5: to figure it out. And I just start meeting people. 366 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: And in Atlanta they have the strip club scene and 367 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: you take your you take your music to the strip club. 368 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: In Atlanta, break your song. 369 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 5: So I was meeting like, you know, your managers and 370 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 5: just people that was out and about, and they were like, 371 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 5: you know, Coleray, and you know, they were asking me, 372 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: like what happened with my career and they wanted to 373 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: jump in and help, and I was just like eager. 374 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 5: I'm like I'm here. But in that downtime, before all 375 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 5: of that, it was just quiet. I had got a 376 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: cute little apartment and it was just me by myself 377 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: before my brother come the wrecking. 378 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: Ball, and it was just quiet. 379 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: It was myself in my apartment and I just you know, 380 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 5: began to just love on me, and I you know, 381 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 5: and I think all the smoking mirrors, everything was gone. 382 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: It was just me in my own mind and me, 383 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: just me. It was quiet. 384 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 5: I was listening to jazz, Carol King and you know, 385 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: just painting. And then I met some producers. I would 386 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 5: go in the studio, we will go to the strip 387 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: club and they would play some of my songs. They 388 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 5: were real like gritty R and B, which I didn't 389 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 5: know if that was the lane that I wanted to 390 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: be in, but it was. 391 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: It was. It was working for that moment. 392 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: And then I get a call maybe about a year 393 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: or so later from Damon Dash and he says, I'm 394 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 5: working with the Black Keys. 395 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 3: And I want you to come to New York. 396 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna get your ticket and you're not going 397 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: back home. I was like, but, but, but, But in 398 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 5: my mind it was it should have been a but 399 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 5: because I had really nothing going on. I was actually 400 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: excited and I was like, I didn't know who they 401 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 5: were either. And I flew to New York just a 402 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 5: round trip, not even no, it was a one way. 403 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't even one way ticket. 404 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 5: And that one way ticket just open up everything and 405 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 5: all the possibilities and everything that I loved as a kid, 406 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: like the gospel Tolive because I grew up in church. 407 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: And when I heard Dan, I heard a track that 408 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 5: he had done before I met him, I thought he 409 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 5: was like a heavy set black man. 410 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna hold you. 411 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: I thought he was a heavy set black guy. 412 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 5: From like a Memphis somewhere, and when I met him, 413 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, your voice is incredible. 414 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: It's strong, it's insane, and they just took to me. 415 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 5: And we just started working on the black rock album 416 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: with Damon Dash with a lot of rappers from the 417 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 5: past and today, and that situation opened up another situation. 418 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 3: It was like, we're gonna work on our album. 419 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 5: We want you to come to muscle shows Alabama, and 420 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: I was like really, And so I drove from muscle 421 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 5: shows Alabama from Georgia to work on that brother's album 422 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: with the Black Keys, and from there it's just I 423 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 5: was just like, this is where this is where I 424 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: always kind of wanted to be. So things just started 425 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 5: feeling good to me again with the music and I 426 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 5: didn't feel like, you know, depressed, and I don't know, 427 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 5: it was my care going and I felt like, this 428 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: is this is where I want to be. It felt organic, 429 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: you know, the live and just singing from my heart 430 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 5: and not trying to fit in somewhere where I didn't 431 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 5: fit like the stuff that I was doing before in Atlanta, 432 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 5: like kind of it just didn't make sense. And now 433 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: when I listen back, I'm like, yeah, I'm glad that 434 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 5: come out. 435 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: That's such a crazy ride. Crazy ride, crazy ride. 436 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 5: And then I met Leon through Terry Walker, the girl 437 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 5: that I sung with overseas, and she knew their manager 438 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 5: at the time when the record label was Truth and Soul. 439 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: So you didn't meet Leon through the Black Keith. No, 440 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: I did because he played with them. Did he meet 441 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: them through you? I don't even know. It's very separate. 442 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 3: That's so weird. And so it's so weird. I met 443 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: Leon through his manager Keith. 444 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: At the time. 445 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: They're not he's not they're not working together anymore. But Keith, 446 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 5: you know, he's from London, he's like swaggy, he's like 447 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: eight mag you know. I love your writing, Nicole, and 448 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 5: you're just amazing. And I'm like, yeah, that's cool. But Leon, 449 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: they are doing some amazing things over and then they 450 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 5: wanted us to do a group so they went over 451 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: there to Damon Dash's studio because I was still in 452 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 5: cahoots with Damon. 453 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: Dash with Terry Walker. 454 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 5: That's how I met Terry Walker do Damon Dash, and 455 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: so I'm like, everything was just happening so crazy back then, 456 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 5: and I just felt like, I don't know if I 457 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 5: even want to be on this ship anymore. 458 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: It just was weird. I wasn't getting anything done. I 459 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: don't know what was happening. I was just happy to 460 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: not be at home. 461 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 5: I was like anything, just to just be sitting at 462 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 5: home and not you know, you know, just being active 463 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: and doing and you know, pushing my muscle, my music 464 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 5: muscle and being creative. So I was just like, and 465 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 5: Leon they walked in, him and his music partner at 466 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 5: the time, and they walked in and it just felt like, 467 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 5: you know, like something out of a freaking seventies movie, 468 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 5: like they're coming to save my life. 469 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: I didn't walked in and they're like, who are these girls? 470 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 5: And we're sitting in there and Damon Dash he has 471 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 5: this guitar, fake playing the guitar. 472 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 3: I was like, you don't know how to play that guitar. 473 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 5: But he's like, yeah, these are my girls. And they're like, well, 474 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 5: we want to work with them. We want to get 475 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 5: them in the studio. So it went over to Truth 476 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 5: and Soul studio that was in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, and we 477 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 5: started cutting this cutting some music with Terry with Terry 478 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: and there was another girl that was Dayton. Damon Dadh 479 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 5: at the time that situation did not live to. 480 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: See the light of day. She got kicked out of 481 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: the group. It was just crazy. 482 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 5: It was like a real sixties seventies movie that was 483 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 5: happening right before my eyes. I had never been in 484 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: a girl group, and I don't know if I ever 485 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: want to be in one unless it's with you, Unless 486 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: it's with you, And I was like, what is happening here? 487 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 5: And then she went her separate ways and we're still 488 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: talking today, but you know, back then, it was just 489 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: crazy chaos happening, and Terry and I just we just 490 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 5: started rewriting the songs and it started feeling good and 491 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 5: we put the album out. And then you put that 492 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 5: album out with Truth and Soul. Leon, yeah, and he 493 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 5: wasn't if he was El Michael's affair back then, he 494 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 5: might have been. 495 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 496 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: And then I get a call, I go back home 497 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 5: and then let the married album kind of songs marinate. 498 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 5: Then Leon asked me to come and write on Lee 499 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 5: Field's album. And I remember when I very heard when 500 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 5: I very first heard Lee feels, I thought that he 501 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 5: was an artist of the past. This music that I 502 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: heard me too, and it just brought me to tears. 503 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 5: I'm listening to the music. 504 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 3: I'm in the car. 505 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 5: My cousin had just passed away, and I'm like, who 506 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: is this man? And they were like, this is Lee Feels, 507 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: I say, and I said, is this old? I said no, 508 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 5: this just was recorded like last year. I said, get 509 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 5: out of here. And I met him at a show 510 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 5: and I just was overwhelmed and I just I don't know. 511 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 5: I was just overwhelmed seeing him on stage and I 512 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: was like, this is crazy. And Leon was like, you 513 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 5: want to come and write with him? And I'm so 514 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 5: happy that Leon trusted me. Out of everybody I worked with, 515 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 5: nobody seemed to ever like understand it. I can write 516 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 5: music too. They were like you need help, you need writers, 517 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 5: you know. But he was always been so consistent and 518 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: I love him like a real brother. Like he saw me, 519 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 5: he saw everything that I wanted to do, and he 520 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 5: was like, if you want to sing, let her sing, 521 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: and that's I'm like, I just want to sing. I 522 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 5: want to sing him write and this is what I 523 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 5: want to do. And I think ever since I've met 524 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 5: Lee on everything, the doors have been opened. Everything has 525 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 5: been just flowing and flourishing. And just it's been consistent, 526 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 5: and that's really all I ever wanted, and it's I'm here. 527 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm here with you. That's so beautiful. I'm here with you. 528 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: He really is the. 529 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 5: Best, is the best, so talented. He doesn't like to 530 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 5: be called a genius, but he's a genius. He's a genius. 531 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: I get it. 532 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: He's like it's a compliment. Ye, he's well, he's a 533 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: sneaky genius because he's not. He's not like imposing right 534 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: with anything. He's not never He's really good at recognizing 535 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: things and like bringing them. 536 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: To bring it to light. 537 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 5: And there's no pressure. I felt like in my career 538 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 5: I was always chasing this. It's just as a high. 539 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 5: He's just chasing this one thing. 540 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 3: And now I'm not. I'm just like living in a moment. 541 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 5: I'm getting a chance to breathe, and in the studio, 542 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 5: I'm getting a chance to breathe. I'm laughing, I'm having 543 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 5: a good time. I'm not having someone yelling at back. 544 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: And it made me just a perfectionist and I don't 545 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 5: even know it sometimes And sometimes when i'm leon I'm like, 546 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 5: I'm overthinking it sometimes because it's in my subconscious and 547 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 5: I've been like on that crazy wheel of you get 548 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 5: it right or you go home and and that's not 549 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 5: the case. 550 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Now, No, that's not the case. It hasn't been for 551 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: many years. 552 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 5: But that's how I started with all that freaking pressure 553 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 5: as a young kid, as a. 554 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: Young kid, as a young kid. Yeah, that's really hard 555 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: to break out of. It's so hard. I'm proud of you. 556 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: I did it. 557 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: You did it. 558 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: I did it with a lot of prayer. It's amazing. 559 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Well, Leon is really good at not chasing perfectionism, and 560 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what's so good about the stuff he does. 561 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: That's why it sounds so good, because it's a lot, 562 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: and it's raw and it's it's amazing. There's plenty of 563 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: perfectionism on the radio. 564 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: There is. It's a lot. And I don't think it's 565 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: for everybody. 566 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 5: It's not for everybody, now, it's not. It's not unless 567 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: you out on the town, you got your drinks, you 568 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 5: hanging out, and then you know, I like it, but no, 569 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 5: you're right. But then in your moment you're like, this 570 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: is a little bit much and this is not my thing. 571 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he does, he does. He does the good stuff. 572 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: I didn't read stuff all some juicy stuff. 573 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, so good, and it feels so great and I'm 574 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 5: just I feel blessed to have still been on this journey. 575 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 3: And it had pivots. 576 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 5: It had moments that I didn't think I was in 577 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 5: a dark that I was gonna see that, Tonnel, I 578 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: promise you I've been I used to like cry on 579 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: my pillow and I'm like, and I asked myself, now, 580 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 5: I was like, have I ever been depressed? 581 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I have And I didn't realize. I 582 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: didn't realize it. 583 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: I would be crying in the room with the pillow 584 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 5: and I would see like the the mescala on the 585 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 5: pillow in the room I would live. I was living 586 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 5: with my mom, and it just was just I was 587 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 5: I never thought that I would just do anything that 588 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: I loved again that you know, And I didn't do 589 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 5: anything wrong. That's the thing I never done. I had 590 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 5: great relationship with every everybody. It's just that sometimes in 591 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 5: the industry, people they move on, they forget, and they 592 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: move on to the next thing. 593 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: And I learned that at a young age, like, don't 594 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: get attached. 595 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 5: And that's always been my thing, and I want to 596 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 5: get attached to people, and I asked people. People ask 597 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 5: me all the time, do you have any industry friends. 598 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, Nora Jones, Claro, you know, you. 599 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: Know I have friends. 600 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 5: But back then I didn't have many friends because I 601 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 5: was always scarce or you. 602 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 3: You didn't let them get I didn't let them get 603 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: close because I just I felt like, you know, I 604 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 3: might get burned. You might have protected yourself from a 605 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: lot of weird stuff. I know I did. 606 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 5: I I dodged a lot of things and a lot 607 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 5: of people that are coming up in this social media now. 608 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 5: I met I met the R Kelly's I met, I 609 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 5: met R Kelly, and I felt like I dodged that bullet. 610 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: And I was such a big fan and when I 611 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: heard that stuff, I was just like, oh my god. 612 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 5: I met him and I was just like, I really 613 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 5: wanted to work with him. 614 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 3: You were in that mix, I was in the mix. Yeah, 615 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: well good you were protecting Yeah. I was definitely had 616 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: a shield. 617 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: And that that song Jesus be a fence all around 618 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 5: me every day. I was like, he it was a 619 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 5: fence around me every day in my career and I 620 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 5: am I just feel so blessed to still be here. 621 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 5: And to have some relevance of what's happening in the 622 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 5: music business and not be And I tell my daughter, 623 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 5: she's seven and she's already on top of she's growing 624 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 5: up in the industry where everything is right here to technology, 625 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 5: she's already grown up. 626 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: We didn't have that. 627 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 5: I'm like, iPhone. My husband's like, you want a new iPhone. 628 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't want to have to go and 629 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 5: set everything back, but pably thank the Lord for her. Yeah, 630 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 5: thank the Lord. She's gonna learn so much more. And 631 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 5: my little old self, old school mind. I'm like, she'll 632 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 5: help me push me on. 633 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 3: It's crazy. Thank the Lord for children. 634 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. 635 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting. The writing thing. 636 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: I remember I. 637 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Talked to Mavis Staples and you know, she didn't she 638 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of chances to write either. And 639 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: then she was telling me about this album she made 640 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: where she wrote all these songs and then they took 641 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: credit for the minute it just she never wrote again. 642 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: She said, yeah, you know, there's just like this thing 643 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: and and people put you with co writer now and 644 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: it's a whole industry in itself, and it's like it's 645 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: too busy. Is that coming from your heart. I mean, 646 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: maybe a lot of it is, but some of it isn't. 647 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: I know that some of it isn't. 648 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: I know that a lot of it isn't. 649 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: It's a ladder and it's a business. It's a business. 650 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 5: I always tell people music. Business is like ninety most 651 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 5: of the business is about the business, and it's really 652 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 5: less about it's a lot of the business. And the 653 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: business is scary, right, Yeah. Sometimes as a female, maybe because. 654 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: If I was a guy, I could be. 655 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: Like, I don't care, and I'm gonna go to sleep 656 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: and I don't think about all this crap. But sometimes 657 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: my little self, I get overwhelmed of the business and 658 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 5: in the nighttime, to me, everything seems so scary, And 659 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 5: in the morning it's just like it's all those thoughts 660 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: are gone. 661 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: The sun is coming up, and all those things. 662 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 5: That I've had in my mind at night about the business, no, 663 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 5: it goes away, and I'm like, Okay, I can handle this. 664 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: I've got this far in my career and I've made 665 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 5: some decisions, whether they've been bad, good or in between. 666 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 5: But one thing I just don't like burn bridges. I 667 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 5: don't mess up relationships. I try to be on time, 668 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: I try to keep that part of when I was 669 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 5: young and keep that part of me because I I've heard, 670 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 5: like some artists are just like they're terrible, and I've 671 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: heard some stories. I'm like, I'm glad I'm not that, 672 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 5: And I was like, maybe if I was that way, 673 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 5: I've probably been further in my career. 674 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 8: Maybe maybe or not or. 675 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: You like, no, I've heard she is crazy. I'm not 676 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 3: dealing with her. 677 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 5: Sometimes I think like some artists they get so far 678 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 5: and they're so bad. They're so bad and they're so 679 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: far ahead, but they won't last. They'll fizzle out somewhere, 680 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 5: or they probably won't sleep at night or something like that. 681 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: Crazy. 682 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: At least they're not having a good time have a 683 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: good time. 684 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: Maybe they're they're faking it. 685 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: Maybe they're faking it all. 686 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: They're faking it on social media. 687 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: It's such a weird business because it's so weird when 688 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: something hits and then something doesn't and you don't know 689 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: what's going to I. 690 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: Mean, it's like a gambling it's shooting in the darkness. 691 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: Like it would be weird to be a record executive. 692 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to be I would, well now it 693 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: would be awful. But like back in the day, even 694 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: it was probably exciting. 695 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: It was I saw the excitement. 696 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all the parties and uh yeah, it was 697 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: if you put enough money behind someone then they will head. 698 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: They will but usually usually but not always and not always. 699 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 5: And now you have to you have to get on 700 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 5: that bike and take that ride. Yeah, and that ride 701 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 5: sometimes hurts your legs. Yeah, you're winded. 702 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: You're like, I'm going up this hill your eyes, yes, 703 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: you know what. You feel good. 704 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 5: I feel like now I'm learning because my management labeled like, 705 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 5: you gotta you gotta do this, you got and I'm like, 706 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 5: I'm old school. I come from like the late nineties 707 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 5: and we didn't do all that. But I know now 708 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 5: I'm a tourist. I can be stumboring sometimes, but I 709 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 5: have to look at other people that are doing it 710 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: and it has to feel organic for me to want 711 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 5: to jump on that ship, right, And I'm just like, Okay, 712 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 5: now I see certain artists that are doing things that 713 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 5: look fun, and so if I can do it and 714 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 5: it looks fun and it feels fun unto me, I 715 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 5: will get on it. But if at first it was terrifying, 716 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 5: like TikTok, I'm like. 717 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I gotta get my hair done. 718 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 5: I gotta know I'm not the and I'm like, maybe 719 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 5: it's just just I'm learning about it too much. 720 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: This saying, just saying this sing and yeah, your podcast, 721 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm just like. 722 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 8: Just so great. 723 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: Just sing on TikTok. 724 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 8: You know it's like do what works. 725 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, my managers like, you can sing the phone book Nicole, 726 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 5: just just sing And that was my first time hear that. 727 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: I can sing the phone books. 728 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: Just sing. 729 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such a weird world. It is weird. It's 730 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: you have to be good at your self promotion. You 731 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: have to be you have to, you have to you 732 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: have to just do it all. Now. 733 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: Yes, I wrote my first resume just for fun when 734 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 5: last weekend, really I found a little app and my 735 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 5: husband's like, won't you just do it for fun? Just 736 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 5: because I've only had like one job in my whole life, 737 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 5: one job. 738 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: And I was like, I am. 739 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 5: I think I'm a real artist because when I look back, 740 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 5: and it was a job me and my mom had 741 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: and it was in Norfolk, Virginia. It was all summit 742 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 5: remodeling and we would just like sell, like get your 743 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 5: roof fixed. And I got fired because I was on 744 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 5: the phone singing. 745 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: You got fired for singing. 746 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 5: I got fired for singing. It's like, you can't come 747 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 5: here singing. And it was my only last job and 748 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 5: I don't even think I had a resume for that. 749 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 5: And my husband's like, you can do it. 750 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: You you have your own business. You were already doing marketing. 751 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: You're already. 752 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 5: And I was so nervous, and I put that freaking 753 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 5: resume together and I have it in my files just 754 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: in case I need. 755 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: To get a job one day. Oh my god, just 756 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: in case, just in case. 757 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 5: It's the cutest resume ever to see all my little 758 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 5: information on there and all my like, oh, it's just cute. 759 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: And it was fun to do. That's good. 760 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: You got to be a self sufficient. 761 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: You have no Yeah, and I put up their mom mom, 762 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: it's my first job. Yeah, oh my god. Juggling and 763 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: all juggling at all. Yeah, it's it's it's a thing. 764 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 2: It is. 765 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: It's a thing. Yeah, And it's a thing. People do it, 766 00:33:55,040 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: people do it. Yeah. So this new album you made, 767 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: I remember when you. 768 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: Guys were making it a few years back, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 769 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Leon was excited about it. 770 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we have boots on the ground. We just started. 771 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 5: Our first kickoff date was last night in Philadelphia at 772 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 5: the field More and it was cute and cozy. Yeah, 773 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 5: and my best friend from high school was in the 774 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 5: front and I just heard him yelling so loud and 775 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 5: it was so cute. I mean, we still keep in touch, 776 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 5: but just to see him in the flesh, yeah, I mean, 777 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 5: I've seen him at Beyonce concerts. It's about to be 778 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 5: at my concert and he was right there front road yelling, 779 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: having a time with his life and singing and it 780 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 5: just felt so good. 781 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: So boots are on the ground. We got more places 782 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: to go, and we're just excited that this album is out. 783 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: It's really exciting when the album first comes out, it is. Yeah, 784 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: it is really exciting to sing new songs. And yes, 785 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: even if the audience doesn't know him yet, Yeah, it's 786 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: exciting for you. 787 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 788 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 5: The last album was a few years ago, over five 789 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 5: years ago, and I've been just singing no songs and 790 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 5: maybe trying to do covers, and I'm like, it's time 791 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 5: for some new some new energy on this thing, you know, 792 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 5: and to have those new songs and the fans are there, 793 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 5: their eyes are lit up and they're like last night, 794 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 5: at the end of the show, after the encore, this 795 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 5: guy he's handing me his phone. 796 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: He's like, can you sing this song? I'm like, this 797 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: show is over. I'm so sorry, bye bye. Maybe next time. 798 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: But I thought it was so cute. 799 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 5: I met him after the show and at the merched 800 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: and he was just like, I'm a DJ, and when 801 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 5: you're forty five came out and I plate this song. 802 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 5: You have to sing this song next time. So it's 803 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 5: certain songs, It's just so many songs. There's a lot 804 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 5: of songs. I'm just like, I think I need to 805 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 5: have like a meeting of what songs. I don't know 806 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 5: if that's a thing. I need to have a set 807 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 5: list meeting. 808 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: I asked chat gpt to make me a set list 809 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: once and it kept naming songs that didn't exist. 810 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm gonna ask. 811 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 8: I'm like, no, I don't know. 812 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: It's not quite there. Yeah, not right there. We're gonna 813 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: get you together. Yeah, you were on top of your 814 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: exactly do you ever do the song? Make it? 815 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: Uh? 816 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: Make it? 817 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: I have to. 818 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: I said I was gonna take it off. But if 819 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 3: I do all do it, I still. 820 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: Do what I did it. 821 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: I do it all the time. 822 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 5: It feels so fun to rap and get this ye 823 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 5: freaking it wass not new energy because it's old, but 824 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 5: it's different from the different from the rest of the set. 825 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 5: And when I'm overseas, some people don't even freaking know 826 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 5: that I did music yesterdayear They're like, what is she singing? 827 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: But I like it, you know. 828 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: I can see them in the crowd is looking confused 829 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 5: but like into it, like what is this? 830 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: I don't know this song? And then I meet them 831 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, I got to go find this music. 832 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 3: And it's just so cute. That's so sweet. Just have 833 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: these songs that just. 834 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: They're still with you, yeah, and they change and probably 835 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: has a different. 836 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: Different meaning, different sound. 837 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 5: It feels like, I don't know, it's just amazing to 838 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 5: have that, yeah, and not to kind of be still 839 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 5: stuck there. There are some artists that I love and 840 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 5: I want to say no names, and I don't know 841 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 5: what's happening with them, but they are kind of like 842 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 5: just stuck with these same songs forever. 843 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you gotta make some new stuff. 844 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: It's really nice to feel like you're able to do that. Yeah, 845 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: And I would, Yeah, I would. I would lose my mind. 846 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: I would lose my mind if I was just stuck there. 847 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I don't know. But to 848 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 3: each his own. Yeah, do you want to do a 849 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 3: song from the new album? 850 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: Yes? 851 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, album, let's do the title track. 852 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: And I'm losing my sight me too? 853 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 5: Okay, a bad way, but everything is like glory. But 854 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 5: they told me that I have twenty twenty vision. I said, 855 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 5: you're a freaking lie. 856 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: Are you talking about up close close? Does that happen? Terrible? Yeah? Same, 857 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 3: I just I got to like pull away this week. 858 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: I actually started wearing my glasses all the time, all 859 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: the time. 860 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: I got a new pair coming. When I get back 861 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: to the noise. 862 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 5: They should be at the house and I can wear 863 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 5: them all the time because they have the prescription at. 864 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: The bottom I was thinking of doing, and they can do. 865 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: They're gonna show me how to navigate them. But I'm 866 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: so excited. Did you get a cute pair? 867 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 5: They are so cute a night they look so cute 868 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 5: like the Devil Wears product the big frames. 869 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are so cute. Oh cute. I cannot wait. 870 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 3: I think I need to up my game up. 871 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 5: The geeah and so it's so many, it's a thousand 872 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 5: pairs of glasses, and I was like, what do I 873 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 5: And even you can do the sunshades, because that's what 874 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 5: I was gonna do. They can take those big frames 875 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 5: and put the prescriptions in those. So look at those 876 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 5: two and then. 877 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: They turn the sunglass in the sun. 878 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that is a lot. Or you don't 879 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: have to do that. 880 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 5: You can just take the frames of the sunglasses and 881 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 5: put your prescription hear in those, because you can get 882 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 5: real funky with those. I think I'm gonna do those next. 883 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 5: My husband like, you have great sight. You don't need 884 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 5: to be focused on getting I was like, look, hush, 885 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 5: I can't see. 886 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: At least they're gonna be fun. They're gonna be fun 887 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 3: if I'm gonna wear them. 888 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: Did you see that SNL with Lady Gaga where it's 889 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: like the older ladies and. 890 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 9: The little red glasses. 891 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: I gotta see that, and it's like, yeah, if I 892 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: got my animal print you know, shirt on and my 893 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: little red glasses, you know, I'm still a little funky exactly. 894 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 3: That's cute. I gotta be that. Yeah, I would have 895 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: definitely that for sure. Oh my God, this little old 896 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: lady ever. 897 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 4: H m. 898 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. 899 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 9: Uh when you look at me, way do you see? 900 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 8: Am I. 901 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: Your image of beauty? 902 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 5: I've lost myself trying to please someone else. 903 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 7: I want to be me again. 904 00:39:52,440 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 8: Don't cover up, cover girl. Don't you hide from the world. 905 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 8: Don't cover up, color girl. Don't you had from from 906 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 8: the world. The joy that I have means more than 907 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 8: it easy. 908 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 9: I know. 909 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 8: Just who who loves me. It's me. 910 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: It's me. 911 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh oh, it's me. 912 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: I am. 913 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: The beauty I see. 914 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 8: Don't cover up, cover girl. Don't you hide from the world. 915 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 8: Don't cover up. 916 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 10: Don't you cover cover a girl. Don't you hide? Don't 917 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 10: you hide from the world? Yeah, yeah, yeah, make up 918 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 10: colors so pretty? You think that's all that I am? 919 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 10: Youre so silly eyelashes, sunglasses. 920 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: Now you can't see me. I'm mute. 921 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 8: Don't color up, color girl. Don't you hide from the world? 922 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: God, God, God, god god it. 923 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 8: Don't color up color girl. 924 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 6: Don't you hide from the world. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 925 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 6: color girl. 926 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 3: Oh that was pretty pretty. 927 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 8: I loved it too. 928 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I was like, oh my god, cute, Oh 929 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: my god. 930 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: I knew we were going to sing together. When I 931 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: met Remember, we were like best. 932 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 9: Night. 933 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 3: I was like, I like her so much. 934 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: I didn't have a few margarita's, but yeah, it was fun. 935 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Leon was DJing. It was DJing. It was so awesome. 936 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: It was it was so fun. It was like, I 937 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: want I want you to meet somebody. I was like, 938 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 3: who's like No, I was like Nora. 939 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 940 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I'm getting near. I 941 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, I'm going to be oh 942 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 3: my god. We had fun. We had so much fun. 943 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 3: It was just chilling. 944 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 2: It was chill. 945 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 3: We dance, we danced a little. The food was really spicy. 946 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 3: It was so good. It was good. It was a 947 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 3: fun night. It was lit, just perfect. 948 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 949 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 3: It was just a couple of us, a handful of us. Yeah, 950 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: I was small a restaurant. It was so cute. It 951 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 3: was great. Yeah. And then I saw you in Atlanta 952 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 3: on tour. Yeah. Yeah, that's when we got out. Was 953 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 3: like date night for me and my husband. And do 954 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: you get tired at night? Is it hard to go 955 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 3: to shows? I think I get geared up for it. 956 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 5: When I'm not, I would definitely be at home and 957 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 5: I will be in bed watching some movies I would 958 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 5: on a regular I wasn't no, I'm home. 959 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: I was happy you came out. I find that more 960 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: and more. 961 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 4: You know. 962 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: I live in New York, so there's always something to see. 963 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: I love that, and I have friends coming to town 964 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: that I want to see, but I never it's so 965 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: hard to go out at night. 966 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: It's so hard, and the world is crazy. 967 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: Now the world is crazy, but it's fun. 968 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 5: You got to get out, Nora, and that was you. Well, 969 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 5: we just moved from Atlanta. We downsized, were put our 970 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 5: house up for rent, and my husband's in navy. Now, 971 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 5: oh wow, I'm a Navy wife too, talk about that. 972 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, we downside. So we have a two bedroom 973 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 5: in Illinois and it's the cutest walk out of the house. 974 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 5: Everything is home Goods is right there, so you can 975 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 5: go get. 976 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 3: My hair done and go to Whole Foods. 977 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 8: Wait, so you moved up bar. 978 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 3: The bars are there. We get melloy and Nanny I mean, 979 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 3: Hubby are out. 980 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 5: We don't have to drive the car. We can walk 981 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 5: to the mall or ride a bike. I'm always wanted that. 982 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: So it's like a little bit of like it's like 983 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: a small town. 984 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 5: It's a small town, Vernon Hills is so cute. It's 985 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 5: the cutest little town right out forty five minutes from Chicago. 986 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 987 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: And then Chicago's International Airport. 988 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 3: That's how I think. Yeah, it's the cutest neighborhood that 989 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 3: I'm meeting. This lady in my building. Her name is Sue. 990 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: She's like the mayor. 991 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 5: And she was at the pool the other day and 992 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 5: she's like, you see that lady over there. I don't 993 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 5: like her, and don't you talk to her. I was like, 994 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 5: whatever you say, Sue. She's like, I need to get 995 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,399 Speaker 5: you some clips for your towel. What color do you want? 996 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 5: She like pulls out all these cute like clips for 997 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 5: the towel. I'll take pink. 998 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,479 Speaker 3: She is so cute. 999 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 5: She's like, I've been here when they open this place, 1000 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 5: and she said the pool needs to redo. She's like, yeah, 1001 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 5: I'm funky and I'm dating a forty year old. 1002 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: I say, good for you. 1003 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: I like Sue. 1004 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 3: I like her. She's awesome. 1005 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 5: Every time I see her, we're like talking and giggling 1006 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,720 Speaker 5: and she's so awesome. 1007 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 3: She's like seventy years old. 1008 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 5: I hang out with older women. It's older women and 1009 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 5: my fans are like older men overseas. 1010 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 3: Like all older men. I'm like, what's happening here? I 1011 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 3: wonder what that's about. 1012 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 5: I wonder too cute, Like you should come hang out 1013 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 5: at my farm. I'm like, I don't think so. 1014 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to. I love that you have a farm, 1015 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 3: but I don't think I'm going to come to your far. 1016 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 5: So when you go out to you go to Chicago 1017 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 5: or is it, oh yeah, we do date night. No, 1018 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 5: it's like forty five minutes. 1019 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 3: It's not bad. We do. We do Ramen. We love Ramen, 1020 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: and we get like ideas. 1021 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 5: And we go to like hook a lounge just to 1022 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 5: get out, you know, because we were missing him for 1023 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 5: six months. He's doing did boot camp Wow, And it 1024 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 5: was just different in our house because we had him 1025 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 5: there and then he just had disappeared. 1026 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my. 1027 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 5: God, I gotta get this house situated. I gotta get 1028 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,720 Speaker 5: Melody ready for school, I gotta learn these songs. 1029 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 3: I gotta get here. I gotta plan to plan my life. 1030 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1031 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 3: And so to have him back is just like I 1032 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 3: can just breathe. 1033 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 5: That's nice, and just to us to be back together again, 1034 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 5: it just felt like a time just stopped. 1035 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: It's a hard life when somebody's. 1036 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 3: Gone it was and they're used to being in the 1037 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 3: equation is we deal with that a lot. 1038 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: Because I leave a lot. 1039 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 3: I leave a lot too. 1040 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: It's not like being in the military, but it's I know, 1041 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: it's still disruptive. 1042 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 3: Disruptive for the little ones. 1043 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and Melody, she's like she's a she's a Gemini, 1044 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 5: So she has two different sides. She's sweet, you know, 1045 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 5: sweet and sour in a good way. But she's like 1046 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 5: she's like grown up with me and singing and the 1047 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 5: music and she knows that's what it is, and she 1048 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 5: she goes. 1049 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 3: With the flow. Do you bring her on the road? 1050 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 3: She's been on the road before. 1051 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 5: And I'm kind of like a therapist mom too sometimes 1052 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 5: not trying to intrude, but I have my ways of 1053 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 5: I asked chat DBT, how do you ask this way? 1054 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 5: How do you ask these questions without making the kids 1055 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 5: like get out of here, mom? 1056 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 9: You know? 1057 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 3: And I found I should do that. That's what It's 1058 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 3: so easy. 1059 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 5: And you just sneak it in and you don't even 1060 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 5: know that they're they're just talking to you about like 1061 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 5: some random stuff. And I feel like oh, she's sharing 1062 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 5: with me, but I have to approach it in a 1063 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 5: great way, right and not like make her feel like 1064 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 5: I'm trying to be a teacher or you know, and 1065 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 5: make her feel uncomfortable. But we had a puppy named 1066 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 5: Hello Kitty and I miss Hello Kitty the beautiful. She's 1067 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 5: a Multese poodle and that was Melody's first pet, and 1068 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 5: we were moving and it just didn't make sense for 1069 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 5: us to take the dog. So we put her on 1070 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 5: adoption site and we got so many hits because she's adorable. 1071 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 3: She has a whole perfect dog, perfect dog. 1072 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 5: And we found a veteran and she's a veteran of 1073 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 5: Air Force and we met her and I thought she 1074 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,479 Speaker 5: was that Hello Kitty would have a nice home because 1075 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 5: I was like, she needs to be in a nice, 1076 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 5: loving environment where a dog. 1077 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: If she wants to go outside, she can run around. 1078 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 5: And I asked Melody in my chat GBT, way, just 1079 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 5: want to ask her just some questions, just I just 1080 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 5: want to know because that's her dog, not mine. I mean, 1081 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 5: it was all of ours, but that was her first 1082 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 5: pet that was gifted to her, and so I was 1083 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 5: asking little things to just make sure she was okay 1084 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 5: with it. And when I saw her, like packing up 1085 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 5: the clothes and like getting her ready, and she didn't cry. 1086 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 3: And she was like giving the lady. 1087 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 5: We were taking the stuff out of the house, and 1088 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 5: at last she had picked up Hello Kitty and took 1089 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 5: her and she gave her a kiss, and after she drove, 1090 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 5: I was like, do you miss Hello Kitty? She's like no, 1091 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 5: And I was like, are you sure? But I had 1092 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 5: already like prepped and asked questions, just because we would 1093 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 5: have kept her had she answered the questions in a 1094 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 5: different way, and we would have made it work because 1095 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 5: my community it's all about dogs, and I feel like, 1096 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, she would have been great out here, 1097 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 5: but they're moving around a lot. Yeah, And she gave 1098 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 5: her a little kiss and they did like a little thing. 1099 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 5: And the lady drove off and that was it, and 1100 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 5: I asked her, she's she sometimes she misses her. And 1101 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 5: I was like, when we move again and we get 1102 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 5: off forever home, then we'll get a dog. You can 1103 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 5: have a if you want to be inside or outside. 1104 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 5: You can get a dog or a cat because I 1105 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 5: like cats too, so we'll figure that part out. 1106 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 3: But it is, it is. 1107 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 4: It is. 1108 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 5: Hard, you know, being away from the kiddos and trying 1109 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 5: to you know, figure out where they are and homework 1110 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 5: and I'm like out of town and I'm doing it. 1111 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 5: I'm still doing homework on tour. I'm like, am I 1112 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 5: in the second grade? 1113 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 3: Or am I on tour? I think I'm in the 1114 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 3: second grade in on tour? Oh my god, that's too funny. 1115 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 3: It just gets worse. Yeah, I'm like, what is this 1116 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 3: second grade math? 1117 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 1: Dude? My fourth and my sixth grader? Now I can't 1118 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 1: even wrap my hand. 1119 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I need a tutor to tutor me 1120 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 3: to get me back into the uh. I was like, 1121 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1122 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: But I brought my daughter to Japan last week, which 1123 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,439 Speaker 1: was really special because it was a very short trip 1124 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: and we had three shows and she had a few 1125 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,919 Speaker 1: days off school anyway, So I brought her and we're 1126 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: on a fourteen hour flight and our ten She's like, 1127 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: all right, I have to do my homework now. I 1128 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: was like, are you kidding me? I was like, now, 1129 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: we're going to do this homework? And we were both 1130 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: cross eyed. We were so tired, but we did it. 1131 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 3: It's good to get it done and out the way. 1132 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: I think I was actually really surprised and really proud 1133 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: that she wanted to do it. 1134 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 1135 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because usually she's a little more like, let's not 1136 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: do it. 1137 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like, I gotta get it done. Let me 1138 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 3: just do it now. So when I get to Japan 1139 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: is at the time of my life. Yeah, smart girl. 1140 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 3: So it worked out. 1141 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: But we had like help, you know, fraction strips of paper. 1142 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: We were doing fractions, show the work it out. There 1143 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 1: was like homework paraphernalia, you. 1144 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 5: Know, and it's the work legs. Work this problem out. 1145 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 5: Oh chat GBT word, that's problem out for me. 1146 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 3: Somehow it worked and she ended up figuring it out. 1147 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: That's amazing. I helped her. 1148 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 5: But yeah, I was a little rocky at the start. 1149 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 5: I'm sure I would be worried if this new math 1150 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 5: it's hard. 1151 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard. I'm like they are. 1152 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 5: If she's in college. In second grade, I know she's like, 1153 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 5: but I want to skip twelfth grade. Mom, I'll say, 1154 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 5: you keep going to where you're going and busting out 1155 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 5: those a's, You'll be You'll be there, You'll be there. 1156 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 5: She's like, I want to be a venarian's see, whatever 1157 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 5: you want to do Babe, this guy is beyond You 1158 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 5: can go and do whatever you want. You can be 1159 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 5: the president if you want, because that's what you want 1160 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 5: to do. I'm going to support you whatever you want. 1161 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 5: It'd be tough, but I'm like, my baby is the president, 1162 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 5: get out of my way. 1163 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 8: Be fine. 1164 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, with a paint the White House pink, she will. 1165 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 5: She's gonna be like the White House has to be pink. 1166 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 3: That's great. 1167 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for doing this. 1168 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, But I at home good. You can come 1169 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 3: back and easy. You're easy. You're easy. 1170 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 5: And there are other places. I'm like, this is gonna 1171 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 5: be nervous. I don't know what they're gonna ask. 1172 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,919 Speaker 3: It's supposed to be. It's supposed it's supposed to be fun. 1173 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 3: And I loved it. I loved it. 1174 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1175 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: I was thinking about, like, your background in church. 1176 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 3: You grew up in church. I grew up singing in church. Yep. 1177 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 5: My mom and my dad when they were still married, 1178 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 5: I felt it was actually my grandfather's church and him 1179 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 5: and my grandmother and well, not his church, but that's 1180 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 5: the church that he resided in, right, and he was like. 1181 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 3: A deacon in the church. 1182 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 5: And then my mom and all her sisters and everybody 1183 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 5: started like just pull paling into this church, right, And 1184 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 5: I'm growing up and I felt like I went to church. 1185 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 3: I felt like it was like seven days a week. 1186 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what church was it was? It was 1187 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 3: called Holy like Church of Deliverance. 1188 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 5: And I have the the craziest story which I felt 1189 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 5: like I was supposed to be a gospel singer. And 1190 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 5: I remember when I was about fourteen, my mom and 1191 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 5: I we went to church one Sunday morning and I 1192 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 5: was about to go work with Jimmy Jam and Terry 1193 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 5: Lewis in Minneapolis. And she they do this like church 1194 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 5: prayer bowl, right, and you put the prayer and you 1195 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 5: put your thing in and you drop it. 1196 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 3: You go sit down, you wait to hear the word. 1197 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 3: And so the lady's sister married out on her name. 1198 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 5: She come with this big old head with like a 1199 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 5: big old feather on it, and she's like, I liked it. 1200 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 5: We're gonna give devotion and we're gonna start praying for people. 1201 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 5: And this morning she started pulling out the thing. She's like, 1202 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 5: I like to pray for sister Nicole and miss Deva Ray. 1203 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,959 Speaker 5: They're going to work with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis 1204 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 5: for her singing career. And I was sitting there like 1205 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 5: this is going well. The pastor gets up out of 1206 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 5: his seat and he's like gangster like he was this 1207 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 5: gangster pastor. He wears these dark gazelle shades that are 1208 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 5: like mafia driven right, and he gets up, disregard the 1209 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 5: prayer they're serving, the devil, Oh, disregarded, disregarded. 1210 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my, he did not like you 1211 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: did not deserve that. 1212 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 3: I did not deserve it. 1213 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 5: And Sister Green Lord rest her soul, she said at 1214 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 5: the church, she said, he know he was wrong for that. 1215 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 5: How did you tell Hersonati fourteen? This was before my 1216 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 5: career even like began, and I always wanted to be 1217 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 5: a gospel singer. And I think that was a pivotal 1218 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 5: moment that meh, because he should have said, look, just 1219 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 5: sing at church. He could have talked to us and 1220 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 5: said pray for them and after church, maybe you don't 1221 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,760 Speaker 5: want to go that route. 1222 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 7: He was mean. 1223 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 5: He was mean until he's still alive. He's like in 1224 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 5: his nineties. And I sung at my I sung at 1225 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 5: my aunt's funeral. He was there because they had the funeral. 1226 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 5: My family still goes to the church, you know. And 1227 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 5: I sung at my aunt's funeral, and I remember him 1228 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 5: just like just looking at me crazy, and I'm just 1229 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 5: like so nervous. And I had already made it in 1230 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 5: my career at this point, right and I'm an adult, 1231 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,919 Speaker 5: and I'm sitting there like he still got a chip 1232 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 5: on his shoulder instead of like, you know, embracing me 1233 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 5: and talking to me. Because he loved my dad. My 1234 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 5: dad was sung in his church, and he loved my dad. 1235 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 5: But somehow he just didn't like me for some reason. 1236 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1237 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 5: But and at my great grandmother's funeral, I'm up there singing, 1238 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 5: He's walks in there. It ain't for God, it ain't right. 1239 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 5: And I was just like, oh my goodness. He just 1240 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,280 Speaker 5: kept going and I'm just like, well that that deterred 1241 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 5: me right there. 1242 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 3: But I still I still I love going to church. 1243 00:54:59,600 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 3: I love it. 1244 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 5: I still go to church, and sometimes I want it's 1245 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 5: get up there and sing with the choir. And I 1246 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 5: was telling Leon, I'm like, I want to bring my 1247 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 5: church roots into this album. I just felt like when 1248 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 5: I was singing in the choir, I just felt so 1249 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,800 Speaker 5: free and just a choir and just everybody singing and 1250 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 5: clapping and having a good time and feeling something. Not 1251 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,479 Speaker 5: to say that I wasn't doing music that didn't feel 1252 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 5: like something. I just always wanted to do a gospel album, 1253 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 5: and so I was like, I'm just bring those gospel 1254 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 5: roots into this album. 1255 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 3: And that's how that was birthed. 1256 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 1: Well, you have all the harmonies, and that's such a thing. 1257 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, Missy helped me with that. Oh my gosh, she 1258 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 3: was harmonizing really fool. Yeah, she could just harmonize. I 1259 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 3: didn't know that. 1260 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1261 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 5: She and she'll write a song and like scribble and. 1262 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 3: The song is done. 1263 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 5: I'm like I can't read this and she's like it 1264 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 5: goes like this. And she was always awesome. But you 1265 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 5: know what, really, I think I got my early start 1266 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 5: with harmonies too, and not. 1267 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 3: Even know it church with church absolutely, and I mean 1268 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 3: I give. 1269 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 5: People a lot of credit, but I keep forgetting as 1270 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 5: a kid. 1271 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 3: I got my first song at church when I was eight. 1272 00:55:59,520 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 3: I sung it. 1273 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 5: Acquire eight all the way on up till maybe maybe ten, 1274 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 5: and then I stayed in church. 1275 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 3: I still go to church today. 1276 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 5: And I told Melody, we're gonna go you need to 1277 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,359 Speaker 5: go to church and we go to church and you're 1278 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 5: gonna say grace. Because I was forced to say the 1279 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 5: grace in front of all adults, and like Nicole's gonna 1280 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 5: say to grace. 1281 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, I don't know what to say. 1282 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 3: Just making up anything. I just make up anything. 1283 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 1: Do you make her say it in front of everybody? 1284 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't make her. I just want her. Her 1285 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 3: grandparents make her. 1286 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,280 Speaker 5: They're old at old school, my husband's side of the family, 1287 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 5: and she's staying there. She's like, I just want to 1288 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 5: eat pizza. I don't want She's like, I don't want 1289 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 5: to do it. And her grandma said, I'm gonna take 1290 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 5: that tablets. 1291 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,879 Speaker 8: Thank you, you'll pray. 1292 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1293 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny. 1294 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: I was listening to all these you know podcasts, all 1295 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: these self help you know, you make your gratitude lists. 1296 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's saying grace. 1297 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 3: Right, Just say saying grace. You don't have to go deep. 1298 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 3: It's good for you. It's good for you. It grateful 1299 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 3: things you should. You should be very grateful. 1300 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 5: It's not yeah, somebody is not having a great day 1301 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 5: or a great life, or or a moment, so it's 1302 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 5: to be to be thankful. 1303 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 3: It's I think it's everything. 1304 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 5: That's that's the one important thing in this life to 1305 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 5: be grateful and just to give back. 1306 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you you seem very. 1307 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it would be easy, with your story 1308 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: and your career for you to be bitter, and I 1309 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: don't feel I don't feel. 1310 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 3: Any of that far. Oh yeah, no, I don't think 1311 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 3: it's in me. I makeup. I cannot do it. I cannot. 1312 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 3: That's probably how you got through it. 1313 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. 1314 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 5: I'm like, my god, how did I get this far? 1315 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 5: And everybody will tell me if I was you, I 1316 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 5: would custom out. 1317 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 3: I would. I was like, that's not me. 1318 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 5: And I think in the long run, it'll what karma is, look, 1319 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 5: you know, And so I believe in my Daddy always like, 1320 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 5: do you know that little lady named Karma? You don't 1321 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 5: want to meet her? And I was like, I always 1322 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 5: heard him saying that. In my mind, I don't want 1323 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 5: to meet Karma. You know what some people do, and 1324 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 5: and when that time comes, it'll be and I'll be 1325 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 5: on the right side of wrong, on the wrong side 1326 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 5: of right, or whatever you want. 1327 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 3: To call it. Yeah, you know, so good. We I'm 1328 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 3: proud of you, Thank you. I'm proud so much. Much 1329 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 3: love to you, same to you. I love you too. 1330 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: We should do this again sometimes do it? Do you 1331 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: feel like singing one last song? 1332 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 3: Let's sing? So this is my sort of version of 1333 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 3: a gospel song. 1334 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I feel like in the last 1335 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: ten years any song that the songs that mean the 1336 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: most that I've written are sort of to God. And 1337 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: do you find that you write those kinds of songs. 1338 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 5: I find they just come to me. Yeah, they come 1339 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 5: to me naturally, my ancestors. I just think my great 1340 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 5: grandmother when she was alive, she always sing And sometimes 1341 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 5: I'm singing and I hear her voice coming through me, 1342 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 5: and I know she's in heaven somewhere like my grand 1343 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 5: great great grand baby is doing it and I feel 1344 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 5: that that vibration. 1345 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to just let God just flow 1346 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 3: wherever wherever he is I want to be. Yeah, I 1347 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 3: love it. Yeah, all right, Well, thanks for singing the 1348 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 3: song with me. 1349 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 2: Do it. 1350 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 3: And after all been said and done, who said it best? 1351 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 8: Will you the one? 1352 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: Let's just forget, leave it behind and carry on. 1353 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 3: If you should find the time to speak, then speak 1354 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 3: to me. 1355 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 5: I never keep you from your fine not detiny, so gary. 1356 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 2: Into the choir, yet. 1357 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 3: I am bound. 1358 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Well you have lost how never found? 1359 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 5: I lost my nerve Yeppie surrounds so gary. 1360 01:00:39,120 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 8: Y m hmmm into the chod it. I am bound. 1361 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 3: What you've lost? 1362 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 5: I've never found I've lost smiler, yeat, peace surround so 1363 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 5: carry all. 1364 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 8: And now that all. 1365 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 3: Been said and done, who said it best? With you 1366 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 3: the one? 1367 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 11: Let's just forget leave it behind, hand carry on, Let's 1368 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 11: just forget, leave it behind. 1369 01:01:51,840 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 7: Heyy yay, so good. 1370 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 3: That was beautiful. That's the first time I got to 1371 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 3: sing sing. That was like somebody. 1372 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1373 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 3: It felt so good. I love the lyrics. Yay, thank 1374 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 3: you beautiful, thank you so much, thank you, love you, 1375 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 3: love you. 1376 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 8: We did it, We did it. 1377 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Oh, that was so fun. I had no idea her 1378 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: whole story. I know it was a wild You're super 1379 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: super not. 1380 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 3: What I knew about. I didn't know any of it. 1381 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 3: That was amazing. 1382 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: I really love singing with her too. I hope we 1383 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: get to do more in the future. So thanks to 1384 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Lady Ray for joining us. We'll be back next week 1385 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: with Martha Wainwright. 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