1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast Won't Wear a Lane here. 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Welcome to Around the NFL, the latest edition, Deep in 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: the offseason edition. I'm Dan Kansas, joined virtually by Greg Rosenthal. 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: What's up, buddy, I mean, I'm just a little annoyed 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: how much you're showing me up. You're we haven't done 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the whole virtual set up in a while, which is nice, 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: especially because you're set up, which already was a lot 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: more professional than mine, now has a neon sign that 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: says old zeus Er lit up in the background. I'm 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: not sure how I feel about this, but I'm it's 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: taken me aback. I'm a little disappointed that Mark is 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: not here right now. Mark somewhere on vacation, maybe a 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: vacae Asian. Well. I don't know what's going on with Mark. 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: We don't know, and hopefully he'll be back. I think 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: he just like saw the amount of days that we've 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: each had off so far this offseason. He counted him 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: up and he's like, I need to even that out. 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: And I knew that was coming, by the way, but 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: that's fine. Um. The reason why I wish he was 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: here for the unveiling of my old Zue or neon 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: sign was he he would just be disgusted by it, 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and I feel like that would have been I would 23 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: have gotten some mileage out of that. Um, this is 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: a gift from my brother Kevin Danger hands Us. He 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: got it from me for I think Christmas, And at 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: first that was a little sheepish about should I put 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: it in the background. It feels like maybe it's a 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: little much, but maybe maybe at this point in my 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: career it's time to just completely completely lean in to 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: the persona and let that consume fully consume the man 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: behind the persona. So that's where I'm at right now. 32 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: This is I'm going full w w E. I am 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: no longer Dan hands as I am now the old zuser. 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Uh here too forward. I mean, we've been on this 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: journey together for a while. Here. I remember early on 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: in the podcast days, I would often call you out 37 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: for when you would go third person, and then at 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: some point I stopped even calling you out because there 39 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: were so many different third person nicknames you had made 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: up for yourself. You know, the old Blue what is it, 41 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: the olde, the new old blue eyes, and um, so 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I think this, I think the circle. I like it. 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: I mean I kind of like like it and don't 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: like it at the same time. So that's that's what 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: you I think, that's what you want is what I'm 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: looking for as a person, and your background is fine. 47 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: It maybe could use it anymore, So that's not Maybe 48 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: could use a little two sprucing for the new season. 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: If we do end up here doing certain shows, we 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: still will be doing remote shows that even see its 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: podcast if we're not on TV anymore from home. I'm 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: done with it, you know, I'm phoning it in. I don't. 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Somebody should tell Greg that this is two thousand twenty two. 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: The social media content. You're always on camera now, buddy, 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: right now, you're on camera. Yeah, but I I always 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: look like trash on at our podcast. I'm finally I UM. 57 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I spent the weekend in Nashville with my buddies from 58 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: back east. I did not, as you can see some here. 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: I did not get chappelled um by a single Titans fan, 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: which was nice. Great city. Had never been there before. 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: Shout out to c J. So many talented musicians down 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: on Broadway there. He was certainly among them. Uh and 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: he's a big E T N fan. And he appeared 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: legitimately shocked to see me standing in the crowd like 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: a big old bozoh uh, and that that's funny and 66 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: perhaps understandable. We had a nice conversation. He had a 67 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: theory why Mark does not deserve sandwiches for the Philly Special. 68 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: But once again, I gotta keep that chambered because Mark's 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: not here. So but that was great shout out c J, 70 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: long time listener, love Nashville. The crowd of what what 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: kind of crowd? Um? What kind of crowd? You said? 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: He saw you in the crowd? What crowd? Yeah, No, 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: so you're familiar to all with that main drag there 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: in Nashville. There's bands that play literally morning tonight through 75 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: the night, um in every single establishment, and there's a 76 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's a very crowded district. And so I 77 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: was in the crowd watching uh CJ's band on Thursday night, 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: and then I ended up seeing him on Friday as well. 79 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: It was It was a nice little thing. But uh yeah, 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: if you're a music lover, if you like good times, 81 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: if you like if you're our age now Greg, where 82 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: maybe you want it. Not that you're like, hey, guys, trip, 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: that's not really a Greg ros the whole thing. But 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: like if you went and you wanted to go to 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: a city where you didn't feel like too old, like 86 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Nashville is perfect. It's got all ages, you know. It's 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: a great, great, fun American party city with a lot 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: of history too. So West and Kisha hit it up 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: on his Sandwiches tour. He said, unbelievable sandwich is in 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: an unbelievable city. I remember they were they were both 91 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: in love with it, and that was Yeah, that actually 92 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: came to mind while I was walking the streets of Nashville. 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: This is right up Chris West Long Alley. So that 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: was nice. Anything to report on your weekend before we 95 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: move into today show. Now we were we were hunkered down. 96 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Walker got COVID last week. I thought you couldn't really tell, 97 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: but so we're just hanging Maybe I got it too. 98 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: How are you, buddy? I'm okay. So we picked a 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: good show. Me back from the pack to Nashville. You 100 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: COVID in the house. Let's stay remote for the balance 101 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: of the week coming up on today's show. Very exciting, 102 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: UM for the guests that we're gonna have on today's show. Um, Greg, 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: you have done Um super Bowl coverage with this woman 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: who works with Sky Sports, works with the NFL, and 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: now she's going to be joining us on today's show. 106 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: Phoebe Scheckter. That's good. She knows her stuff and she 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: is gonna add a lot of value for a very impressive, 108 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: very important I should say draft we have coming up. 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: That's all I'll say. You're what you're teasing the draft. 110 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it'll probably be in the title of the 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: show if you want to just go check it out now. 112 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: But I like that. I'm excited for this. This is 113 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: like great offseason content. And yeah, Phoebe's amazing. She she 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: was so good on the Super Bowl coverage we did. 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: Also was a staff member under Sean McDermott, like a 116 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: coaching intern there. So that's that's exciting. Works at Sky 117 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: Sky with our our friends there, so it'll be great. 118 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: Let's get some Sean mc dirt mint, you know what 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: I mean. But before that, the news chilling on the 120 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: seventh floor I got is in the house and quick 121 00:06:45,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: on the face. Yes, of course, Greg Houlson, the seventh 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,119 Speaker 1: floor crew from the Miami Hurricanes. We'll get to Greg 123 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: in a little bit, and yes, maybe the bleeps made 124 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: it difficult to understand the message of the song that 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Greg and the rest of the seventh Flew seventh Floor 126 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: crew tryn express. But that's for the best. This is 127 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: a family show, Greg, at the end of the day, 128 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: and also there's kids that could be listening in the 129 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: car and the entire female race. The beat the Beefs 130 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: threw me off that I haven't heard that in maybe 131 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: ten years, and I totally forgot it ever existed. And 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: that's exactly what Greg Olson wants. All right, Let's get 133 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: to the news. Start with the Cleveland Browns. They have 134 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: kept an important defensive player in the building. After Jadeveon 135 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Clowney's fourteen unsuccessful trip to free agency, he's decided to 136 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: stick with the Browns, returned to the team on a 137 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: one year deal worth up to eleven million dollars. So 138 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: he'll start next to Miles Garrett, Clowney and people that 139 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: listening to the show. Now, I've given Clowney a little 140 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: bit of grief um for not maybe being the guy 141 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: that connects with how much we talk about Jadeveon Clowney 142 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: in terms of production. He's never had ten sacks in 143 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: a season, for instance. But I feel like He's had 144 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: nine sacks in a season about six times now, including 145 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: last year, So Greg a value add to keep him 146 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: with the Browns and and uh, that defense should be 147 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: able to make some noise this season. I mean, I'd 148 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: like I'd like someone to say my trip to free 149 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: agency was unsuccessful if I could get you know, eleven 150 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: million dollars at the end of it, he's doing He's 151 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: doing fine. Uh, they needed him. They probably expected this 152 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: to happen the whole time. They have Chase win of 153 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: It right now as their third pass rusher really, which 154 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: I think is a nice role for him. I think 155 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: could be a nice pickup. But when I was doing 156 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: the projected starters at first, and like I was slotting 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: and Win of Itch as the starter and like no 158 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: one really behind him, it was like they better signed 159 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: to Evan Clowny. Ian Ian reported that he turned down 160 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: some multi year offers were thirteen to fourteen and the 161 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,119 Speaker 1: others a year. Okay, I'd like to see the guaranteed 162 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: money on all that. Clowney got what he was gonna 163 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: My guess is there's only eight or nine real million 164 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: dollars in this and that some of it is incentives, 165 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: and that makes sense. He was a good He was 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: a good value at even a lower price last year 167 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: for Cleveland. A quality starter for that money is great. 168 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately we get all excited about the draft. 169 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: The odds are all these defensive ends that were drafted 170 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: in the first round, the average one is going to 171 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: have a worse season in two than Jenevan Clowney. It's 172 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a big deal that to go 173 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: go at a starter at this point in free agency. Yeah, 174 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: and I would say all the drama around the quarterback 175 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: position aside, this is a roster that certainly, um if 176 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: you add high level quarterback, has a chance to compete 177 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: for the a f C title. And uh, you know, 178 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: the next move I want to see for them is 179 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: adding that wide receiver. There's still some names out there. 180 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pound the table once more for a will 181 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: or If you're gonna bring Deshaun Watson to your team 182 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: and everything that comes with it, why don't you bring 183 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: the guy that he loved making plays with in Houston 184 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: basically his entire career there, who's still out in the market, 185 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: will be very affordable as long as everything checks out 186 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I don't know where Fuller is at 187 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: big picture wise. Odell Beckham, of course is still out there. 188 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: He talked his way out of Cleveland or his dad 189 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: talked his way out of Cleveland because of Baker Mayfield. 190 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: And yes, Baker Mayfields a Brown, but he's not really 191 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: a Brown. Let's see if one of those guys ends 192 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: up on that team, because if you had one more 193 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: really um buzzy playmaker to this offense, Yes, there's no 194 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: denying that the Browns, if they do have the quarterback 195 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: they want to have play the majority of the games, 196 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: you could make a case that they have a chance 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: to win the whole thing. That's that's I think the 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: ceiling with this team. Like it or not, yeah, I think. 199 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: I don't think the roster is quite as good as 200 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: it was two years ago. But I'm with you on 201 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: Fuller would be a great idea. Just get a professional 202 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: like Julio Jones. I don't know what he wants financially, 203 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: just someone that can be there because right now you 204 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: have Donovan People's Jones as your two and probably a 205 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: rookie David Bell is your three, like or or Anthony Schwartz. 206 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: From me, You're either way, you just you need like 207 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: one more pro that can just maybe two that can 208 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: just catch fifty balls, Like if you get fifty for 209 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: six hundred out of Julio Jones, like that's probably better 210 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: than the guys that are on their roster right now, 211 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: and they probably will. They have enough cap space to 212 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: do what they need to. So you're looking for a 213 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: bro who's a pro that would work. I mean, they're 214 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: there are guys out there. There's seventeen guys in my 215 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: top one O one still available, UH, much more than 216 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: a normal at this time of year. Who is the 217 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: highest out of curiosity, Odell Beckham because I was kind 218 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: of looking at him as like a long term pickup 219 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: that he would still make sense. Dwayne Brown, who still 220 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: played at a pretty high level, Tree Flowers, Keem Hicks 221 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: is out there. There's some decent start. JC Treader, who 222 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: was a Brown last year, played pretty well. All right, 223 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Let's move to the Washington Commanders, who you know for 224 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: years now. There's just always a lot of things hanging 225 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: over this organization, and so much of that is connected 226 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: to ownership UH and Daniel Snyder and what's been going 227 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes there. There's just been scandals that 228 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: have just marred the franchise, and USA Today's Jarrett Bell 229 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: reports that NFL owners are quote counting votes on removing 230 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: potentially uh Snyder from his role. Uh the source as 231 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: an anonymous NFL owner, So that is as high up 232 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: on the chain as you can get. And there are 233 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: thirty two teams. You need to get twenty four teams 234 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: to vote an owner out. I mean, that would be 235 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: uh unprecedented, Greg, do we do we? Has this happened? 236 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, these are billionaires, a billionaires boys club, and 237 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: these guys tend to stick together. But Snyder has potentially 238 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: made himself an outlier because of the latest controversy, which 239 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: stems from an ongoing investigation that alleges the commanders cheated 240 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: other teams out of ticket revenue, which should be shared 241 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: amongst the franchise. That's a no, no right, which would 242 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: be crazy. That That's the thing that had I mean 243 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: to to review. Since Daniel Snyder was removed from the 244 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: day to day operations because of um the workplace misconduct 245 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: investigation that they had in terms of how poorly they've 246 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: treated women, which is not He's been called to Congress 247 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: for more investigation, more accusations, and this report about him 248 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: stealing money from it, like if he if he can't 249 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: get kicked out right now, no owner ever will. And 250 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: the whole idea was like owners don't want to do 251 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: this because it could potentially lead to the skeletons in 252 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: their closet getting brought up. Um, But man, I would 253 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: just feel better working for the NFL without Daniel Snyder 254 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: in it. This isn't This isn't a new thing. And 255 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: the the news worthy part of this story to me 256 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: is that someone's willing to go to USA today. This 257 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: is like a very direct person that they're going to 258 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: Jarrett Bell was a Pro Football Hall of Fame, you know, 259 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: award winner in terms of the Wall, the Sphinx Award, 260 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: the writer Like, we're gonna go to USA today, the 261 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: one that's still get dropped off in the hotel. We're 262 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: putting this out there, like that's a different step in 263 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: the process. Um, And it makes me hopeful. But I've 264 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: been hopeful about this before that that there could be changed. 265 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: And in terms of the history of this type of situation, 266 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: it's ever happened. Jerry Richardson walked away when he was 267 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: feeling the pressure, but he there was no vote like 268 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: he just Arry Richardson, and that was coming in the 269 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: wake of the Donald Sterling scandal involving the NBA UH 270 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Clippers franchise, and he was forced to sell. So Richardson 271 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: perhaps was trying to get ahead of that when he sold. 272 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: But beyond that, this is uncharted territory. If it goes 273 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: down this road, and I would imagine there will be lawyers, uh, 274 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: and the story will mushroom if the NFL owners ever 275 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: banded together in the majority on Washington do it owners 276 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: all right? In other news, you heard Greg Oldson and 277 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: at the top of the news. He has since moved 278 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: past his time as a Miami area rapper into a 279 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: very successful NFL career as a Pro Bowl tight end 280 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: and then made the transition when his feet literally begged 281 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: him to stop playing football, uh, to the broadcast booth, 282 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: where he's been very good. He's a really good, rock 283 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: solid guy with I think potential to even be better 284 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: than that. And even though Tom Brady has under contract 285 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: for a mega deal with the Fox with Fox once 286 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: he finally retires, Greg Olsen will be the one calling 287 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl on Fox next February. Of course, our 288 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: boy Andrew Marshand, who was on the show last week, 289 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: had this first. Olsen and Fox Sports have a deal 290 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: in place that will make him Kevin Burkhardt's partner for 291 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty seven from Glendale. Um, So there you go. 292 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: So if at least in the short term, Burkhardt and 293 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Olsen are the number one team, there's also a Drew 294 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Brees scenario out there, Greggy, because Bree he's in his 295 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: weird cryptic text tweet last week. Let it be known 296 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: that he can go in a lot of different directions. 297 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: And then, of course we don't know how much longer 298 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's playing. I think this is it for him. 299 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: But Marshawn threw a little cold water on that on 300 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: our show last week. So there we go. As the 301 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: NFL broadcasting booth turns, it would have been nice if 302 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: Marshawn gave us that scoop. I mean, I thought the 303 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: same thing, thought about it because he made it the 304 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: day before and he kind of hinted around and maybe 305 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: he didn't have it. Then I'm sure he didn't actually, 306 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: because can I tell you something I thought during the conversation. 307 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I saw it in his eyes. I think he almost 308 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: did it. I think he almost did it. And maybe 309 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: maybe that's on us. Maybe if we just would have 310 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: just just a little bit prodded a little bit more, 311 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: he would have given it to us. But ultimately we failed. 312 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: So that's just the way it is. I mean, I think, 313 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's got his employers to keep happy, so 314 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I get that he's sort of hinted around at it 315 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: um and he hinted around the idea that like, I 316 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: don't know if tom Brady is gonna take this job eventually, 317 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: which I really that was what I found most intriguing, 318 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, tom Brady could play more like tom 319 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Brady could change his mind um, and Fox has got 320 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: to move forward as if they don't know for sure 321 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: when tom Brady is coming. I think Olson will be, like, 322 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: like you said, rock solid. I think I think he's good. 323 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: I think you can learn something from I just don't 324 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: want an announcer like taking away from my experience. And 325 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I thought you could tell with Marshaun's report about Breeze 326 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: that like this, he was saying that this is gonna 327 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: be Breeze's best chance to really get a foothold in 328 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: the broadcasting business. And it almost felt like maybe that 329 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: was coming from like the Fox side of things. It's 330 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: like they're not gonna pay top dollar for Drew Brees 331 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: necessarily be number two, Like if if he's gonna hold 332 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: them over a barrel, and like want to be that dude, 333 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: and like want that special attention that Drew Brees gets. 334 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: It's like you gotta put in your time, man, and 335 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: in the train might leave the station if you don't 336 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: just take. Yeah, that's why the whole thing was struck 337 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: me as a little bit odd. Like you had Drew 338 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: Brees doing Notre Dame games with Tarriko correct on Saturdays, 339 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: Like why not do that for three or four years? 340 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: And and really, you know, learn the craft and and 341 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: get better. And if you don't, if you really don't 342 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: want to do the UM Studio NFL telecast, you don't 343 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: have to. I mean, I'm sure you could work something 344 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: out UM and just stay on top of the NFL 345 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: game and then when the time comes, maybe you get 346 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity. But uh, you know, but good good for 347 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: Greg Olson that he'll he'll be excited for that. There 348 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: won't be as much Fox like number one team in 349 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: our lives without t n F. Now you know, we 350 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: were getting fucking Aman twice a week last year, the 351 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: last couple of years, so that'll be a little different. 352 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: But we get them, we get them some big spots 353 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: like it. All right, let's hold up right here. We'll 354 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: take a quick responsible break and be back with more 355 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: news alright. Time now for roster news and notes presented 356 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: by up work, where you can build the team that 357 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: would build your business. Learn more up work dot com. 358 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Oh Nick Nick full Oles on the move once again. 359 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: What a journeyman. He's turned into a master journeyman, this 360 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: Nick Foles for a guy that had one of the 361 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: great Super Bowl runs ever. Uh These signs with the Colts, 362 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: so formerly of the Bears, a two year contract or 363 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: unites uh folds with Frank Reich, who coached the Eagle's 364 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: offense during that famous Super Bowl run in two thousand 365 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: eighteen by the Eiggles. He's thirty three years old. He 366 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: will not um be supplanting Matt Ryan as a starter 367 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: unless Ryan gets hurt. Um And he didn't do much 368 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: last year, Greg to make you think that going forward, 369 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot left in the tank. But I think 370 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: it's a sensible move by both sides. Yeah, they needed 371 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback badly. He did start one of the weirdest, 372 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: more memorable games for me, like the this this was 373 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: like a reminder of like why I like football, Like 374 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: his comeback um in Seattle for the Bears was like 375 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: a totally bizarre great moment of season for me. Like 376 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: he had a two touchdown come back in the fourth 377 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: quarter where he made some throws and I was like, 378 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: what is happening here? Is like football can be entertaining 379 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: in almost any scenario, like two totally dead teams and 380 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: Nick Foles is making wild plays to get a game winner. 381 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Yet I feel like that happens. I feel like it 382 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: happens even more with kind of also ran teams are 383 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: a little off the radar and they're starting a guy 384 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: that had the season worked out differently. Maybe they didn't 385 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: want to start in him, but that guy turns out 386 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: to be a former star or a dude who really 387 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: slinged it earlier in his career. I remember, if any 388 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: test have already had some of those type of games 389 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: where he was kind of a forgotten guy and then 390 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden would be like or boom late 391 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: period boomer assize, And remember throwing for five yards for 392 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals once late in his career, like these guys 393 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: pop up with those big type of games. But yeah, 394 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: it's Matt Ryan's team, there's no doubt about it. And 395 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Folds now is transitioned into that like Joe Flacco, that 396 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: stage of his career where you know where you are. 397 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: You're not trying to be the guy anymore, just looking 398 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: to collect some paychecks, be involved with the game as 399 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: long as you can before it all goes away. Uh, 400 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: because time is finite, Greg and everything, including for an 401 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback five different teams in seven years, So you're 402 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: right about the journeyman. That was news and Notes presented 403 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: by upwork, the world's work marketplace. Learned more at upwork 404 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: dot com speaking of the Colts and quarterbacks and veterans 405 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: and it not working out. Carson Wentz was one and 406 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: done an indeed, despite the Colts giving up big draft 407 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: assets to bring the former Eagles first round pick to 408 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: the team last offseason. And um, it was always a 409 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: very kind of unique NFL story just by how open 410 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: the team was. That was getting rid of the quarterback 411 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: was about non not wanting to be with that quarterback anymore. 412 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Uh Ersa had told reporters after Wentz was traded to 413 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: the Commanders for some draft picks, and Carson Wentz, by 414 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: the way, in case you forgot, is a member of 415 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: the Commanders, and he is ready to take charge, as 416 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: we all know, decided to really go ahead and start 417 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: to take command. Oh sorry, he's ready to you know, 418 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: don't blow the line, that's why, ready to take it 419 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: seven times to start, ready getting ready to take him 420 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: in anyway, or told reporters it was very obvious the 421 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: Cults had to move on from Wentz. And guess what, 422 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Now he's having his side. He's like what 423 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: what what? What? Yeah? That I didn't expect that. I 424 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: didn't expect that things unfold the way they did. And 425 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, I thought things were in a pretty good place. There, 426 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: had awesome relationships with every single person in that building. 427 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Can't say enough good things about the people over there, 428 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: And um, yeah, kind of came out of left field. 429 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's entitled to his own opinion, and 430 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's entitled to do what he wants with 431 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: his football team. That was from the column Cowherd podcast 432 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: and right the video clip we just played, which you 433 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: could check out on YouTube. Right beneath Um, Carson Wentz 434 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: was just a big logo for manscaped, and it just 435 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: made me connect dots about Carson Wentz and how he's 436 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: grooming himself, and that was unpleasant to me. I just 437 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: wanted a little I'm speaking my thoughts out loud. I 438 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: don't think you need to connect those dots. I don't 439 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: think that's necessarily the case there. I think, Um, I mean, 440 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: he is a guy that likes to take command. So 441 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: maybe you're right, you know what, I kind of with you. 442 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not somebody that subscribes to that level of 443 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: self care. By the way, like he said, he has 444 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: great he had great relationships with everyone in that building. 445 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's why he believed. But um, there's just 446 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: an indication that not a you know, relationships go two ways, 447 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: and like if someone disagrees with you about that, then 448 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: like they're they're right too. Yeah, sometimes I feel like 449 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: with the went stuff, Um, there's a tendency to pile 450 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: on him a little bit, even though there's not a 451 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of documented evidence that he's a bad guy or 452 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: a bad teammate. But yeah, it is one of those 453 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: reading between the lines. There's just a disconnect with him 454 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: and his teams that he plays for, which is not 455 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: great at the game's most important position. Moving on the 456 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: game's more most important position. San Francisco forty Niners. They 457 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: fashioned themselves like a big time, top level, top tier 458 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: super Bowl contender in two, but they don't know who 459 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: their quarterback is. That's kind of a weird territory to 460 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: be in. George Kittle made the media rounds ahead of 461 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: his tight end university thing he does. And he was 462 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: on p f T Live with your old boss Florio 463 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 1: Greggy and he's not even hiding it. Nobody's hiding it. 464 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: He calls Garoppolo v Lance a toss up for him. 465 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Let's listen in to what Kittle had to say. That's 466 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: a million dollar question, isn't it. You know, that's one 467 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: reason I'm glad I'm not the head coach of So 468 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: that's all on coach Shanna Hian, you know, like and 469 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you both ways. Like you know, Jimmy g 470 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: awesome in the huddle, great leader, directs guys. People are 471 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, go to attention when he's talking. 472 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: He's got a quick release, he knows the offense. Know, 473 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: like I said, been to an sc championship games. Who 474 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. Um, Trey Lance can run, extend plays, 475 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: does all the play action stuff, incredible, could throw the 476 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: ball seventy yards. So it's just I don't know. It's 477 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: a toss up for me. Oh Man, Kittle is gonna 478 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: be definitely in the media game in a few years, 479 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, he had a better background than 480 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: me too, which is a little this point, I um, 481 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know right now. What are they gonna say? What? 482 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: What can he say? Kittle loves Jimmy g It's one 483 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: of the awkward positions that they're putting themselves into by 484 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 1: keeping them on the roster. And yet the later we 485 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: get into this, the more likely it is that they're 486 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: just going to keep them on the roster. You know, 487 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Carolina changes their mind or Seattle changes in mind. 488 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: Seattle would be weird, But Carolina changes their mind at 489 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: some point. But that's not going to be until mid August, 490 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: so they gotta play this thing out. And and maybe 491 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: we should have seen this coming, um collectively when garoppolo 492 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: season ended immediately followed by shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder, 493 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: which is a big deal. And but we don't know 494 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: exactly how much that truly played into drawing up his market. 495 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: I think you would, you would speculate, Yes, it probably 496 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: had a big, big reason behind it, and probably the 497 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: only reason why I didn't get traded. And yet it 498 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: is pretty stunning to me. Yeah, this just feels like 499 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: it's the most likely scenario now that this is how 500 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: their season, UH is going to The narrative round the season, 501 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: at least heading towards training camp, is that they have 502 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: these two guys in the building and Garoppolo might have 503 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: a chance to hold off trade lance, which nobody was 504 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: predicting UH in January. Ultimately, I don't think he's going 505 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: to have much of a chance. He could also have 506 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: another move here where he doesn't want to stay with 507 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: the forty niners, but it probably wouldn't happen because he's 508 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: making so much money and I think they're willing to 509 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: pay him his salary even if he's the backup. It's 510 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: not too different from Jacoby Brissette um when Andrew Luck 511 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: came back a few years ago and had this huge 512 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: salary and they just decided to keep just in case 513 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Luck Luck at her and it's it's kind of similar 514 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: like he's not gonna make that money elsewhere, so he's 515 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: got to kind of be a good soldier about it. 516 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: And I don't think he'd have much of a chance 517 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: to win the week one job, but he'd just be 518 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: there lurking all handsome. You know, I don't know, man, 519 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: it feels a little more wide open to me that 520 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: trail Lens is gonna have to play well and this 521 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: summer and through training camp and even an experit like 522 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: we might have those those training camp. Usually those preseason 523 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: games don't mean much, but they might mean a little 524 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: bit more for San Francisco. We'll see, we'll see. Finally 525 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: in the news, it's uh now where are we were? 526 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: In the last week full week of May. Bill Belichick 527 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: has not revealed who will call plays for the Patriots 528 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty two. We know it won't 529 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: be Josh McDaniels, who got a head coaching job, so 530 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: it will be who who hoo hoo. Uh. He met 531 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: with the media, Belichick, and he downplayed the importance of 532 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: the role and uh he you know, he just doesn't 533 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: want to talk about it, and he doesn't want you 534 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: asked him about it? Why do you care? So much. 535 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Let's listen to the hooded one. Didn't get it. Not 536 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: a word was were that was that English? I heard 537 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: gran gran grand Grandbo Granbo. Next question, Uh, to be fair, Well, 538 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about to be fair, but this isn't 539 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: new for him. But the the offensive side of it 540 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: of like not knowing he was calling plays a little new, 541 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: especially with like a young uh quarterback like mac Jones. 542 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: Like when McDaniels left, it was mysterious. Um, I think 543 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: it was Dable was in there for a minute back 544 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: in the late OTTs. Uh, you know, he's still we 545 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: still don't know who the defensive play caller is all 546 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: of last year, like we understood it was some combination 547 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: of Steve Belichick and Gerard Mayo and Bill Belichick. But 548 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: it's it's weird because now everyone's watching these little mini 549 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: O t A practices and they're noticing Belichick doing some 550 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: of the stuff. And as a Patriots fan who's like 551 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: feeling a little bit like, you know, we're we're past 552 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: the We're past the most exciting time of my Patriots fandom. 553 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: No matter what I mean, it's over. Um, like we 554 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: just witnessed the greatest running professional American professional sports history. 555 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: I would argue, like it's it's on the downturn. You 556 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: know what would get my juices going. I want Bill 557 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: Belichick call in those places, and that there's some thought 558 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: maybe he's got to be the offensive play caller. Now 559 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: that gets me a little more. I'm just happy you 560 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: feel anything, Greg about the Patriots or My other theory 561 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: is that this has all been an elaborate moved by 562 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: you to play down your Patriots fandom, like I don't 563 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: really care anymore, to gain some analyst pop that you 564 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: have that of course it's deep within I'm gonna care 565 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: more about them than other teams, but it's not. It 566 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: just can't get back to where it was, like you 567 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta just realize you enjoy Did you enjoy 568 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: it as much as you should have now? Like now 569 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: that it's it seems to be if you go by, 570 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to our not that 571 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: you ever would, but absolutely would. Super Bowl Championship when 572 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: they beat the Seahawks and certainly the Falcons and Rams. 573 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: I think all it was was like those whole run 574 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 1: ups was an appreciation if I all I wanted was 575 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: that fourth one. You know, it was one more dot 576 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: de I uh and I did. I did appreciate it. 577 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: And now it's it's a new era with a with 578 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: a mysterious play called. But they've done this a million times, 579 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: like when Flores supposedly took over the defense, we didn't 580 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: know who was calling plays like three or four years ago. 581 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: They want a super Bowl that way, actually that that year, 582 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: like they this, this is his thing. It's stupid, but 583 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: he's been doing it for twenty years, right. I guess 584 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: the only way I feel like you would be concerned 585 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: about this if if Belichick was like eight eight years 586 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: old and you were worrying about his ability to really 587 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: keep up with everything. But I don't have those concerns 588 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: even though he's um the second oldest coach in the league. 589 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: I have a tiny bit of concern that there's only 590 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: like four offensive coaches and two of them are Joe, 591 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Judge and Patricia and they're in charge of It's like 592 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of concern. I'm not saying. And 593 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: there was a there was a report out there from 594 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: Badard up in Boston that there was some grumbles and 595 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: concerns about where things were the state of the Patriots 596 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: right now. Players concerned about the direction of the offensive 597 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: coaching stuff. Everybody should just calm down. I think it's 598 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna be fine, But but you don't want your players 599 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: like concerned. You don't want your players being put in 600 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: this weird position of answering these questions. It's not the 601 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: biggest concern, obviously, but I wouldn't be surprised that, like, 602 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: there's some offensive players that like, wait, what, we don't 603 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: know who the play callers? Wait, what judge being Like 604 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: if if this was a report coming out of the 605 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: Panthers camp, and I know they're all set because they 606 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: got their rock star offensive coordinator in the building, But 607 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: I would say, okay, Matt Rule doesn't have somebody in 608 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: place that players are concerned. But this is literally Bill Belichick, 609 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: and it's just like, I'm not concerned. Exl me. That's 610 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. But before we get take 611 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: a break and then get to our guest, I want 612 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: to debut a new UM offseason recurring segment, Greggy. You know, 613 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: as I go through, as I go through my different 614 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: process getting ready for each show, sometimes I'll come across 615 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: something on uh, the Worldwide Web, and I'll say, oh, 616 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: that will be a good little nug for the show. 617 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: So why not just how's it within this realm and 618 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: its own um, its own little world. I call this segment. 619 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: It came from the internet, This one via the NFL subreddit. 620 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: Despite going three and fourteen and having a quarterback on 621 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: a rookie contract, the Jacksonville Jaguars have negative eighteen million 622 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: in cap space in Okay. That is a surprising nugget. 623 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: That's it. That's all it is. Hit the music graver. 624 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: It came from the internet. You know, is that team 625 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: being well? Trent Balky guy keeps a job. You gotta 626 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: give him that. I mean, if I I love that 627 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: Trent Balky knew we needed to get it done this 628 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: year and just spend someone else's money. That's what I 629 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: would do if I was about to be fine Alas, Yeah, 630 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: that's the feeling you want to have as a fan 631 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: base when uh, when you're heading towards the summers, like, oh, 632 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: the guy that knows he's gonna get fired is just 633 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: recklessly spending in an effort to go you know, seven 634 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: and ten this year. All right, let's take a yeah, 635 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: and then we'll bring on the great Phoebe Scheckter, Welcome 636 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: back our next guest. Gotta hellm rest me better than ours. 637 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: A former coach on the Buffalo Bills, where she was 638 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: an offensive assistant, the current Sky Sports pundent slash presenter 639 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: depends what you want to call it. A former professional 640 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: football player herself and one hell of an analyst. Did 641 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I mention that? Yes, that falls under pundent slash presenter? 642 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, Phoebe Scheckter, Welcome 643 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: to around the NFL. Thank you so much for having me. 644 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the music just makes everything better. So I 645 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: feel very honored. Yes, we're happy to have you. And uh, Phoebe. Like, 646 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: in terms of background, um, let's start with the Bills 647 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: side of things, like how did that come about? And 648 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: what kind of experience was that working under Sean McDermott. Yeah, 649 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: So I initially applied for the Bill Walsh Diversity Fellowship 650 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: back in UH and that was my first trading camp. 651 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: So I was with DBS my first year and then 652 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: I just kept hounding him all throughout the year to 653 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: have me back, and they asked me back the next year. 654 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: And it was a bit of a change of scene 655 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: for me because I I for the first time was 656 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: on offense, specifically with tight ends um with coach Rob Boris, 657 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: and it was it was definitely life changing for me 658 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: in so many ways. But also I was Rob Boris's 659 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: first ever intern in his thirteen years in the league, 660 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: so that within itself was its own challenge in terms 661 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: of having to think five steps ahead of him. So 662 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I didn't make myself redundant essentially. But yeah, it's it's 663 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: been amazing and really being there from the beginning of 664 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: coach McDermott's journey. I mean, I had an amazing rookie class. 665 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 1: You've got Josh Allen Tremain, Edmunds, ran Neil Tredavious White, 666 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean the names go on and on. So super 667 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: fortunate to be around incredible people. Yeah, we did. Uh. 668 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: Phoebe and I were part of the Talk Sport coverage 669 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, UH in the second half and 670 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: all I kept thinking and I said this at one point, 671 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: I was like, I should stop talking because every time Phoebe, 672 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: that doesn't work. When you say that to yourself in 673 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: the game, you know it was good, It like makes 674 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: you shut up as an analyst or whatever during the game. 675 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: But I was like, I need to just like pop 676 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: in a lot less because all the points that Phoebe 677 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: are are is making on the broadcast were like so 678 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: much better and so much more analytical from like an 679 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: X and OS uh standpoint than anything that I could 680 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: say that. It was like the best thing I could do, 681 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: uh was be quiet and and Phoebe still playing. She's 682 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: part of the World Championships coming up for Great Britain. 683 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: She's on that team. We're on the training squad there. 684 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's exciting. That's that's a rare uh feat 685 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: for any of our guests. I don't think Neil Reynolds 686 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: has ever been on a training squad. Um ready to 687 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: for dozens. He just he wants that validation, but he 688 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: keeps on getting turned away. Don't you know I'm the 689 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: lead presenter for Sky Sports. Your accent spot on really 690 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: thank you? Um, all right, let's get into it. Yeah, 691 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: we we tease it up top. We're gonna do a 692 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: kind of a fantasy draft. Uh no, not kind of 693 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: a fantasy draft of wide receivers. Were in a golden 694 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: era of wide receiver play, aren't we, Phoebe like that? 695 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: It just feels like in addition to all the veteran 696 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: stars out there, every year now tends to bring a 697 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: fresh superstar into the mix. And I don't mean just 698 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: like a guy that has potential to be a superstar. 699 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean a guy who by week three you're like, oh, 700 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: he's one of the top ten receivers in the league 701 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: in your opinion? Why do these guys now? You're Jamaar Chases, 702 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: You're justin Jefferson's You can name the guys year by year. 703 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: Remember Odell Beckham early in this podcast history, immediately came 704 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: back from a hampstring Injuryers like, oh, this is the 705 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: most gifted playmaker in football. Why is it that some 706 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: of these wide receivers just have that ability to immediately 707 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: become superstars? You know? I think there's a couple of 708 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: different things. I think one, we have a lot more 709 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: multi sport athletes and that changes the game complete lead um, 710 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, just taking those different traits and skill sets 711 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: from other sports they've played growing up. And I think 712 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: the other thing is actually, as youth have been growing up, 713 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: there's been a bigger move away from contacts for kids, 714 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot more of seven on seven essentially, 715 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: and that's essentially just quarterback receiver and and you know 716 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: dB play And for me, I think that's almost made 717 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: the biggest difference. You know, you're looking at your Mahomes 718 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: and um, your Herbert's guys like that who have grown 719 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: up playing seven on seven. I mean, imagine having Pass 720 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: Kelly every single week since you were ten years old. 721 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: Indefinitely you're going to learn how to read a defense 722 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: and be able to react. And I mean, and no 723 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: doubt that's not to take away from the unbelievable athleticism 724 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: that we are seemed to be growing in this world. 725 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: Right Like you, I know you you work with with 726 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: flag football. I know you're like traveling around like helping 727 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: the big build. You know, women playing flag football and 728 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: boys playing flag football is like a big thing, and 729 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge part of it. And that's 730 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: like now that's where the money is and the way 731 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: the NFL teams Dan, I think are being built. Like now, 732 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: I think you really saw it. And West was early 733 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: on this that the Kyle Shanahan Falcons were like a 734 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: game changing team because I felt like he knew you 735 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: needed four wide receivers. And I feel like now now 736 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,479 Speaker 1: when I look at receiver groups. I'll even like see 737 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: where there's two great ones or even three good ones 738 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: and a big drop off, Like that's too thin. Now 739 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: you kind of need four or five, Like you just 740 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: need a ton and that's like four. This exercise putting 741 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: this list together, it's crazy. So many people like you said, 742 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: like you put Oh they're a top ten receiver. Oh 743 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: they're a top fifteen receiver. Alright, go make that list 744 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: because the top twenty at the very least top twenty five, 745 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna have to start eliminating some really big names, 746 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: uh pretty early in that. So let's do some roster 747 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: building then, because we don't want to be too straightforward. 748 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: And just if we're let's say we're built, what are 749 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: we gonna do like five each? All right? So if 750 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: you're building out five here, um and the three of 751 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: us will each put together a team and let's have 752 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: some fun with it. Let's uh grave digger. Once we 753 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: have the teams together, why don't we vote and we'll 754 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: have the open it up to the Instagram UM subscribers 755 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: over there, um at the A T N podcast and 756 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: have them vote on what the best wide receiver group is. 757 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm definitely gonna win. I just I 758 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: feel like this that's a foregone conclusion. But whoever comes 759 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: in second place is going to be an interesting uh 760 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: competition there. Um, so let's make it a competition love 761 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: that with a sandwich on the line. Uh. And if 762 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: h and Phoebe, if you are the victor, we'll just 763 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: have Neil buy you a sandwich. That will work. Um, 764 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, we'll have some competing against Phoebe here. Though 765 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: she took that like McDermott, you know, time training here 766 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: and was like the first guest ever to be actually 767 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: on and ready like before we even started the show, 768 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: like thirty minutes early. So she's she's ready. That's troubling. 769 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 1: That did rock my confidence a little bit. But also, 770 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: let's instead of straight picking receivers, let's build a room. Okay. 771 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: So that means you're gonna want complimentary, you want your 772 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: one a guy, you're gonna want your second banana, you're 773 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: gonna want a slot guy. Um, and you're gonna want 774 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: to balance out the room and get to a good spot. 775 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: So uh, just know there's one other there's just one 776 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: other little niche to this exercise. You've gotta be ready 777 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: for you'll be hit at some point with a special 778 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: category when you hear that Hart and that will at 779 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: the very least and I'll leave it at this, narrow 780 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,959 Speaker 1: down your options when you get to make a pick, 781 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: and I don't know, you don't know what it's gonna hit, 782 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: but it will, and you'll hear what the mystery topic 783 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: that is drawn. I will be drawing it at random. 784 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what it will be. Well. That the 785 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: key is though, that Dan knows about this whole idea 786 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: and created the category. So that's that's the key thing 787 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: you need that that's not important. That's all you need 788 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: to know is that there is a mystery mystery category 789 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: and it could hit you at any time. So let's 790 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: get going. Phoebe, you are the guest, and I guess 791 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: build out your roster however you want. But it is 792 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: at the end of the day a draft, and um right, 793 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: we gotta do snake draft to make this fair here, 794 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: so I would all right, So let's go since I whatever, Greg, 795 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: if since I know the mystery categories, I will pick 796 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: last unless you want to pick last off, fine, you'll 797 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: get three in four, so that's good, all right. So 798 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: then Greg Phoebe gets to there there, there there, Okay, 799 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: here we go on to three four. This is very serious. 800 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: Food is on the line, so I hope you guys 801 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: understand the realness of this confortent. It's real now, alright, 802 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: So one, two, three, Okay, think that's okay. Here we go. Phoebe, 803 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: you got the first pick. I would imagine you want 804 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: to take a one a receiver. H You're not gonna 805 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: pick like a slot guy. You want to someone that's 806 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: top of the line. But you know what, that's your call. 807 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: You build your team your wide receiver room. However, you 808 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: want your up first. I am I am actually gonna 809 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: go first with Tyreek Hill. You know what, he can 810 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: stretch the field. He's got this speed. You have to 811 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: literally game plan against him. So I'm already going to 812 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: make that defensive coordinator have to think the way that 813 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: he tracks the ball and he's able to keep that speed. 814 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he is a no brainer to have on 815 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: your offense. Not for the Chiefs though, you know, not 816 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs trading this offseason. Um, not that that 817 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: was like a red flag, but it was like just 818 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 1: like the slightest shading of red to me, that big 819 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: red Andy Reid was willing to to give him up. 820 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: He's like unique, like you, your offense obviously would be 821 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: running so well, PHOEBEU and know just how to use him. 822 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: You give him to some some adults that are running 823 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: offenses like I don't. You have to have the right 824 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: person for Tyreking. I think Mike McDaniel is that person. 825 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying about that and their decision 826 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: they made, but when you give your quarterback a half 827 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: a billion dollar contract, that's gonna lead to some tough 828 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: decisions if you want to actually have a real roster, 829 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: well rounded rosters. So they were I think maybe in 830 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: a tough position, but he would have been much lower 831 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: on my list. I'm taking Davante Adams, uh with my pick. 832 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: Here just feels like he's gonna get I'm looking at 833 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: this for this year. We're building the room for this 834 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: year basically, and uh, you just know, I think his 835 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: numbers might go down in the D with the Raiders, 836 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: but that's not what we're talking about. This isn't like 837 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: fantasy stats. He can just do everything you talked about, 838 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: like building the different room. I'm gonna be looking at 839 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: guys that can fit in every every spot. And Davante 840 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: Adams can do everything he can. He can help your 841 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: pass protection because he can get open so quickly that 842 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: you're that your quarterback doesn't needs to get rid of 843 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: the ball. Uh. Derek Carr is good at that, by 844 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: the way, So I feel like he It's not an 845 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: easy to pick. There's a couple other guys, but I'm 846 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm going Davante. I can't go wrong. I can't go wrong. 847 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: There pff A good stat they had that UM he 848 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: had nineties six point one percent of his matchable targets 849 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: UH for receptions UM second highest in the league. So 850 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: if you put it on him, he's gonna catch the ball. 851 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: He put it near him, he's going to catch the ball. 852 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: And Derek Carr, while not Aaron Rodgers, certainly as an 853 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: accurate thrower of the football. Do we so, Just to 854 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: make this totally clear, so we're looking at like not 855 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: so much the resume or just twenty two looking looking ahead? 856 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: How do we see this in the middle of building 857 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: my room for this year? Like which team? Which room? 858 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: I want? Yeah? Alright, that now goes all right. So 859 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: we got Terry Kill off the board. We got Davante 860 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,479 Speaker 1: I expected that to play out so very it works 861 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: out great for the old Zeus or I'll take Cooper 862 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: Cup off the board from the Rams. Just an absolute 863 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: production machine. Last year one of the best seasons ever 864 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: by a wide receiver in and then you gonna say, 865 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, but this is I don't have any concerns. 866 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Rams are gonna run it back, 867 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: but I know, uh, Cooper Cup is gonna be geted 868 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: like mad in that offense. I still think Matthew Stafford 869 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: has a big time years left in him, so even 870 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 1: if he doesn't hit that same level um in two, 871 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: I think he'll be an absolute monster. And then it's 872 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: gonna snake to me. And now it's getting tough. I 873 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: love Debo, but I just don't know. Here's the thing 874 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: about Debo. I don't want to bring it up. He'll 875 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,280 Speaker 1: come up soon enough, but I'm gonna pass on him. 876 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: And then it becomes just like we were talking about, 877 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 1: should I go with the sensation from one or the 878 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: sensation from and I'll go with the one sensation. Jamaar 879 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: Chase will be my second player. I want that guy. 880 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: Talked about Odell Beckham and what he did when he 881 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: tore the league apart in um I believe it was 882 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: Chase did that last year. I think he's just getting 883 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,479 Speaker 1: warmed up and he's teamed with a great quarterback that's 884 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: ascended as well. So Cup and Chase, Hello Dolly, they're 885 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of similar in some ways to me, because like, 886 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how exactly how Jamar Chase is so 887 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: good at getting open. It's not just pure speed, it's 888 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: not just pure strength. It's similar with Cup, uh that 889 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: I think he has an even higher ceiling. But how 890 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: how much higher could you get? Phoebe we were, you know, 891 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter of the Super Bowl. How much more 892 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: can you do than basically put it on one receiver's 893 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: back with absolutely no one else on the field for 894 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: the Rams at that time, Like the whole idea of 895 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: like cups a system guy, or he's a slot guy, 896 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: or he's this or that. Like he put that to 897 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: bed in the most like emphatic way you could possibly 898 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: do it massively. I mean, he was, he was that 899 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. He was He was pretty much the only 900 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: reason the Rams. I mean, obviously Aaron Donald doing his thing, 901 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: but that offense was able to do anything. And he 902 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 1: made that fourth quarter so exciting to watch. Alright, Greg, 903 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: you now make your second pick in the second round 904 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: of the Fantasy Draft. I hear a harp. No, I 905 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: don't you have a clear runway? No, I mean this 906 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: this guy. I debated having either two or three on 907 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: my board. So I think Stefon Diggs is like an 908 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: absolute steal here. And this is sort of like to 909 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: my I mean, I want guys that can do everything 910 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: like that's then you don't have to worry about where 911 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: you're play Like Stefon Dick can line up inside, he 912 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 1: can line up outside. He can take the short routes 913 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: and go along with him. He can run the medium routes, 914 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: he can go deep for you. He can do everything. 915 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: I I I love seeing his numbers pop up in UM, 916 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: but I felt like that was just confirming what he 917 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: showed on on film in Minnesota, that he is like 918 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: as complete as any receiver. I think there would have 919 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: been an argument to take him number one overall. He's 920 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of like the last guy at these five, and 921 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: these would have been the five that I would have had, 922 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: that you could have made the argument to take any 923 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: one of these five number one. The only quibble I'll 924 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 1: have with this is that he was outrageous in still 925 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: absolute stud but maybe came down a little bit in 926 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: the second half, especially there was kind of a downturn 927 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: a little bit in his production. And now Brian Dables 928 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 1: out the door. We don't know how this this offense 929 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: is gonna look. But these are minor quibbles. Ultimately, I 930 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: think it's a safe choice for sure. Yeah, and you 931 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: still have Josh Allen throwing him the ball, So I think, 932 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: why were you mad? Why were you mad? I took him? 933 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh No, I totally agree. I would have I had 934 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: him on my list, so I definitely agree. I think 935 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: he's unbelievable and he's great effort. I mean, he doesn't 936 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: he's like a little energizer bunny out there. So no, 937 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and the fact that he's proven he's done 938 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: it in Minnesota, he's done in Buffalo. It's not like 939 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: a guy we don't know who can't handle that workload. 940 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: All right, now, Phoebe, you're up this tough man, all right? 941 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: I get my two right? Yeah, cool, I'm gonna go 942 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: so not gonna lie. Had Davanta Adams on my list 943 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: as well, but I'm going to replace him with DeAndre Hopkins, 944 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: a guy we didn't see much of last year, but 945 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: I think this year could really make an appearance again. Um, 946 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: you know we've seen him throughout the years, just the 947 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 1: way that he goes after a contestant ball. He's a 948 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: big body, great hands again, similar traits to Adams in 949 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: terms of winning that one on one physical great release. 950 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: Kind of what you want to have as a nice 951 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,879 Speaker 1: compliment to Tyreek Hill in my offense. My next one wait, 952 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: wait a second, Oh, of course that heart means you 953 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: need to get ready for the mystery category. Your next 954 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: pick has to be a player who plays for a 955 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: bird team. A player that plays for a bird team, 956 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: justin Graver the Grave Digger. Please let Phoebe know any 957 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,479 Speaker 1: explanations or suggestions that are necessary. Right, So, the five 958 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 1: bird teams are the Seahawks, the Ravens, the Falcons, the Eagles, 959 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. Perfect. Your options include players like Ages. 960 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: We could figure it one. I could figure it out. 961 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it would have been nice if you had 962 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: given her the Bird team before she took nuke. Almost 963 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: feels like it almost feel like it's randomized. It feels 964 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: very random, selectively random. Um, all right, I'm gonna go 965 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: for pat him over here in London this year. Kyle Pitts. 966 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: He is technically a tight end whoa technically, but he 967 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: plays more snaps at receiver. He I saw us that 968 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: he was like the most effective outside receiver per route 969 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: in the entire league. So and he played more outside 970 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: than than inside. So I think I think we gotta 971 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: allow it. I think we got to allow it. Thank you, 972 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: thank you. I mean again, like just watching him, he 973 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: is the way that he tracks the football and his 974 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: body control some of the catches that he's been making, 975 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: I mean, a massive mismatch for any defense out there. 976 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: I just love the way he creates separation. He gets 977 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: after he's young, so he wanted to get better and uh, 978 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: for me, that's my birdman. You know I'll give it. 979 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: I'll give it to you because listen, you get the 980 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: whole Hopkins thing that was tough with the Cardinals bird team. 981 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: But he is a tight end. I know what you're saying, 982 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: the tight end like me, I like you wanted to 983 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: spice it up. Um, I didn't see that coming. That's 984 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 1: off the board. I mean he's more of a wide receiver, 985 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: like plaining wide receiver than Deebo Samuel, It's not even close. 986 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, or Jalen Waddleer Tyreek Kill in some way 987 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: like he I don't know. I I like it, and um, 988 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: I like that you threw us off base here. Plus 989 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: you left all the wide receivers for us. All right, 990 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: how about this? Wait? I think I hear Greg's up 991 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: and I think I hear the harp again. Geez, And 992 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: this is this is gonna annoy because he's he thinks 993 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 1: he's building this masterpiece squad and now he has to 994 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: contend with this. He's like, if Mark was here, he 995 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: would be annoyed that you would put it in on 996 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: us and not yourself. What's going on? You have to 997 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: select a player who has won an sp what this 998 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You have to 999 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: select player who has a Super Bowl ring. That's even worse. 1000 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: Oh sorry, pretty short list now that Dan took Cooper 1001 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: Cup and Tyreek Hills going. But you know you get 1002 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: that whole Bucks team Mike Evans and Odell Beckham last year. 1003 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, tough time. Sorry, Um yeah, I'm looking at 1004 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: my list. The next ten players have not won. They 1005 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: have not won a Super Bowl at trophy we show 1006 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: I'll show you mercy. And it also does include players 1007 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: who have won an sp Well, tell me who's one 1008 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: an S I don't know, just justin though he doesn't either, 1009 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: nobody knows. Even ESPN doesn't know. I'm like googling has 1010 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: some Wren winning. This be probably not. This is ridiculous, Um, 1011 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: but you've you've forced me. Well now now I'm going 1012 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 1: to just throw out maybe injury concerns too, and just 1013 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: think like I think, you know, if if you're gonna 1014 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: go New Copkins, who's suspended, you know for the beginning 1015 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: of the year, and I'm just thinking, like, when they're 1016 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: healthy and everyone's right and he needs to have a 1017 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl trophy than Chris Godwin would actually be my 1018 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: next guy up. I think Chris Godwin is like so underrated, 1019 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: and especially with these two. I got Davante and Digs. Um, 1020 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: I like Godwin inside more than them. Certainly, Um, you 1021 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: can use them in any way you want, um, but 1022 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: you put me in a tough spot. Like I said, 1023 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: the next the next ten guys, you know you could 1024 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: have you could have gone Mike Evans, but I actually 1025 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: would rather have Chris Godwin's I think he's more valuable 1026 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: than Mike Evans. Alright, sorry about that. I'm sorry about that, 1027 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 1: but that's a great pick. I think hadds a lot 1028 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 1: of value to your room. It's a nice looking room. 1029 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't have taken him in the third 1030 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: round here, but all right, all right, that now goes 1031 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: to the old juser and Justin. You could hit me 1032 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: with the harp anytime you want, and you could pick 1033 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: the category that I get hit with about okay, Justin 1034 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 1: hit him? Trying to keep it fair here, let's go 1035 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,959 Speaker 1: with a player whose name has a repeating letter, which 1036 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: is actually a much longer list than I would have 1037 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: thought putting this together. Dan, you have two already in 1038 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and Jamaar Chase. That leaves you with Justin 1039 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,439 Speaker 1: Jefferson Debo. It's almost like Dan fed you that this 1040 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: BS category was next, because like the next two players 1041 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: on my list would have that. It's like pretty much 1042 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: every player left on my list as that. Almost, man, 1043 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 1: that's that's tough. And to be clear, a repeating letter 1044 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: is like back to back in their name, not like 1045 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: they have two a's but like, actually I get it. 1046 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 1: But even then, even then, almost that's true for every player. 1047 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: My goal was to make you angry. Greg and I 1048 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: have succeeded well more just because you're like, oh, Justin 1049 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: can pick the category, and I know how this works. 1050 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: Justin did not pick the category. Justin has no control. 1051 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 1: Justin did I did. He said you can pick the 1052 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: You picked the dumb category. Then there are only two left, 1053 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: so I didn't. So now what we're saying here is wait, 1054 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,240 Speaker 1: there's two more categories left, which means that it's probably 1055 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,280 Speaker 1: gonna be Greg and I with the two categories. Categories 1056 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,439 Speaker 1: was one, You're You're in the clear. Now I will 1057 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: I will go with um Justin Jefferson, and I will 1058 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: also go with hey, listen, I'll double it up. I'll 1059 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: go with let's go. Let's go. Guy kind of fell 1060 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: off the radar a little bit. Cite Lamb, okay him 1061 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 1: because one thing like about Lamb is how he's versatile, 1062 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: like my my offensive coordinator, whoever that may be. Maybe 1063 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick can help me out with that as well. Uh, 1064 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: Lamb is a guy that could play inside or outside. 1065 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: He's done a lot of it. He's been a dominating player. 1066 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: UM last year wasn't as maybe impressive and as his 1067 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: first year was in some ways, but I think the 1068 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: best of Cdee Lamb is yet to come. I think 1069 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: he's a superstar. I wouldn't put him in my Superstar 1070 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: Club on NFL dot Com just yet, or maybe I would. 1071 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what to think about it, but I 1072 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: think he has that he has that window or that 1073 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: ability and could get on that level. And yeah, I 1074 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't think Jefferson would still be around. Um well, he 1075 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been if I had been allowed to pick probably. 1076 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: Oh oh, sorry about that. So Jefferson and Lamb are 1077 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: my selections. Why why do you like Lamb so much? Phoebe? 1078 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: I like him. You know, I really liked him coming 1079 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: out of training camp last year. I thought that I 1080 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: loved watching his physicality, aggressiveness, the way he got after 1081 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: the ball, and the way he just gets after in 1082 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: practice in general. Um, and then there were times throughout 1083 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: the season I wanted to see him peek a bit more, 1084 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: especially with with having such you know, great percentages in 1085 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,479 Speaker 1: training camp. But I do I really like I really 1086 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: like Ceedee Lamb, and I think that he's got still 1087 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: has a lot of potential. Yeah, I like that you 1088 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: brought up like his physicality, and then he's a guy 1089 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: I think could be used more creatively, like that's not 1090 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: the first thing that you think of is like play 1091 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: strength with him, but he absolutely has it. He's so fat, 1092 00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 1: like his ceiling should be higher than Deebo Samuel, who's 1093 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: my next pick and could be used in a similar way. 1094 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if Mike McCarthy um if I trust 1095 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: him to to use Ceedee Lamb in that way, but 1096 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: I do trust Kyle Sani and so I'm excited to 1097 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 1: have Deebo who, like you know, I can lie. I 1098 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing with this room, but I 1099 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: want to get all these receivers on the field as 1100 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: much as possible. Maybe I'll go uh for it or something, 1101 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: or maybe I have three receivers and debos, you know, 1102 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: offset in the backfield, like sign me up. And I'm 1103 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: surprised you let him sit there, Uh, Dan, I think 1104 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: that's where you made a big mistake. I see what 1105 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: you're saying. I liked, but I think I did put 1106 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: a little bit into his the uncertainty going on, we're 1107 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: we're assuming that he's even going to be on the 1108 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: forty niners, which I guess he is. Well, he would 1109 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: show up to my team. I mean he would be 1110 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: excited to play under my ownership. Um, and we would 1111 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: pay him what he deserves, right and would you would 1112 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: you cater the playbook how he wants to be used, 1113 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: not how what would be best for the team, because 1114 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 1: I think that's been part of the storyline around him 1115 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: as well. He gets his money, then he'll be He'll 1116 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: be happy however we use him. It is. It is 1117 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: something to think about that, Like, all these guys are 1118 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of mouse to feed, but I'm 1119 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: still taking the best players. What am I gonna do here? 1120 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: Take Cordorel Patterns. I guess that'd be an option. It's 1121 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: like my fifth but come on, yeah, that would be 1122 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: an interesting move. Yeah, I I think that's a great pick, 1123 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,480 Speaker 1: especially at this part point in the draft. Is he 1124 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: going to be able to continue to take the abuse 1125 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: as well? Probably? But you never know, it's football, Yeah, 1126 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: thick skin, he'll be fine. Yeah, alright, Phoebe, you've got 1127 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: two more picks, my last two? Oh my goodness. All right, 1128 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for Keenan Allen. I really like him 1129 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: as a slot guy. Uh, you know, he's pretty big 1130 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: for being splot guy, the way that he is able 1131 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to read a defense and he can sit right in 1132 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: those zones he can still fight for the ball if 1133 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: it stays in man like that, and also, like more 1134 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: majorly is his yards after catch. He's a guy that 1135 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: can actually big body of the football and then continue 1136 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: to get that that yak. So for me, like that 1137 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: combined with his quickness, I think he's got to be 1138 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: my fourth pick um. And he complaints on that, We okay, 1139 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: I think that's good. I think it's a little a 1140 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: little older, maybe not as explosive as some of the 1141 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: guys left, but yeah, that would be my only take 1142 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: that is he might be the first guy I don't 1143 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: know see you know he's he's only thirty. Actually I 1144 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 1: thought he was a little bit older. So yeah, I'm 1145 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: thinking that he and he's obviously connected with a great quarterback. 1146 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: But if I had to pick two guys that I 1147 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 1: would be a little concerned with some age related decline. 1148 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: Hopkins would have been the other guy. So you're banking on, 1149 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: like the veterans, having a couple of got it, We're 1150 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl of this year. Got it 1151 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: in it to win it? FM draft picks I like it, 1152 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: and then you close out your draft with this one 1153 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: was tougher because most of my picks that I actually 1154 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: liked are gone. Um, so I'm gonna go for T Higgins. Wow, 1155 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: closing out a little A little Bengals guy again, someone 1156 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: who I think. I mean, he did a great job 1157 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 1: with the Bengals, and I think considering you know, he 1158 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: wasn't really looked at if they had so many other 1159 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: great players. But this year, going into it, I think, 1160 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 1: having another year under his belt, I just think he 1161 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: can really do a lot for adding to my offense. 1162 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: With the other receivers I've gotten here, I think he 1163 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: could he could do some damage for me. I love 1164 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 1: I love that I wrote him down to in my 1165 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: top fifteen, thinking like maybe I'm not going to get 1166 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: to there. But I feel like he's so underrated. Uh Like, 1167 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: if you look at his stats last year, if you 1168 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: count the playoffs because he missed some of the regular season, 1169 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 1: he ended up with fourteen hundred yards and eight touchdowns 1170 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 1: in eighteen games. So like what one more than like? 1171 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: He I still people think I think sleep a little 1172 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 1: bit on what he can do, and he can be 1173 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: a little more complimentary, which I think maybe works. You 1174 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 1: have a bunch of ones. Maybe it's good to have 1175 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: a guy like that. Said, you left a lot of 1176 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: good players on the board, So one of these players, 1177 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 1: at the very least isn't getting drafted A J. Brown, 1178 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, DK Metcalfe. Um, I mean we didn't even 1179 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: get to like a Michael Thomas or Maury Cooper. There 1180 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on here. Jalen Waddle. Um, you 1181 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 1: you put me in a tough spot because I've got 1182 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Brown and mclauren well ahead of the pack and DK. 1183 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Actually that's not true, not well ahead. But I'm just 1184 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: thinking of of my team. I want guys who can 1185 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: do everything. I'm actually gonna take Terry McLaurin, even though 1186 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: I know the Instagram voters would probably be more excited 1187 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: if I took a J. Brown, and that is just 1188 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: like a beastly crew. But I'm gonna be true to 1189 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: myself and not just h pander for votes, So just 1190 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. I love Terry McLaurin. Uh. I 1191 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: think if you put Terry McLaurin in a situation that 1192 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 1: was more healthy the last few years. For instance, let's 1193 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: say he was on the Titans, like like A J. Brown, 1194 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: I think he would have absolutely similar production. And again, 1195 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: what I'm looking for is guys that can do everything. 1196 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 1: A J. Brown is amazing. I have somewhat of a 1197 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: similar player, uh In Deebo Samuel already on the roster. Instead, 1198 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: I want like movable guys for the rest of my 1199 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 1: my receiver group. So as just filling out, I had A. J. 1200 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Brown ranked a little higher, but I think McLaren fits 1201 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: better with my crew. Now I'm feel it's cool because, 1202 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: like you're saying, McLaren not always in the best spot 1203 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: to perform, but now he has Carson Wentz, So you're right, 1204 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: Like this is I'm not picking fantasy stats for this year. 1205 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm picking who do I want on my team. I 1206 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: think McLaren would be looked at the same as like 1207 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 1: A Debo and an A J. Brown if you had 1208 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,040 Speaker 1: been in a different situations. So in this realm, he's 1209 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 1: playing for a fictional Rosenthal team with a fictional quarterback. 1210 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 1: Are you the quarterback? Take me through the logic exercise. 1211 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're just picking. We're picking teams. We're 1212 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: picking teams that have a team we would run. I'm no, 1213 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm not the quarterback. I think I would have maybe 1214 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Mac Jones there on too. Let's happening a very bog standard. Yeah, 1215 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: like a middle of the pack. Yeah, y, all right, 1216 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 1: So you went with scary Terry, which takes us to 1217 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 1: the final pick. And you know what, I don't know. 1218 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 1: Maybe this will this will make grape Digger happy since 1219 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: he's no longer remember to save team. But I am 1220 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: going to pass on a J. Brown. I'm looking at 1221 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: my room again. We're building out a room, and the 1222 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: one thing I'm missing right now, I got Cups cup, Chase, Jefferson, 1223 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: ceedee lamb. I want like a real, a big guy, 1224 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: a guy that could just abuse cornerbacks just with his 1225 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: size and physicality and winning at the catchpoint. And that's 1226 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 1: Dk Metcalf for me um six three, a Greek god 1227 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,560 Speaker 1: uh in terms of his building physique, he's a freak 1228 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: with the speed. So I think we've already got an 1229 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: imposing group. You put in a big man with speed 1230 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: like Metcalf to round out the group with the overall pick. 1231 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 1: I just don't imagine how anyone ever stops this team 1232 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 1: with these wide receivers. I mean, yea if this and 1233 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: he was a real team, we would all yeah, the 1234 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: rest of the NFL would be in trouble. Just the 1235 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: three of us compete against each other. It would be 1236 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: fun to watch, though, Um, it is wild. It is 1237 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,240 Speaker 1: wild though that a J. Brown, for instance, didn't get uh, 1238 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 1: didn't get taken because of what you were looking for. 1239 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: That's a J. Brown too, But that's also d K 1240 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: six one. I wanted somebody was just a real you know, 1241 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 1: a giant, a twin tower as uh as they say. 1242 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: I think he can be ste I wish he was 1243 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: on my team, like you, you hit me with the 1244 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: surprise category and otherwise god, when would be gone? But 1245 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,480 Speaker 1: it's just it is crazy, how deep like how many 1246 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: players we didn't even get to in the top fifteen. 1247 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: Who else was left out? Phoebe that you didn't get 1248 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: to take here? I mean, I think Gosh again, I 1249 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: really like I know he's an older dude, but Mike 1250 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 1: Evans really like him, Marii Cooper, um, Jalen Waddle. I mean, 1251 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: there's so many talented receivers it's kind of insane. It's 1252 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: kind of scary to think how many are coming through, 1253 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 1: and you can understand why corners and safeties are becoming 1254 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: such a big deal in the NFL. When you have 1255 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: to compete with guys like this, you what's your your 1256 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: your kind of what's your specialty? When would you say, 1257 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: as a like, what a position do you play? So 1258 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 1: I actually play, uh like Nickel essentially when I play. 1259 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,919 Speaker 1: But when I was with Buffalo, I was with tight ends. 1260 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: So for me, I had Charles Clay who was amazing 1261 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: at the top of his route. You've got Dawson Knox 1262 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 1: who has just been incredible for Josh Allen. Uh So 1263 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: you just appreciate the athleticism of these guys. And yeah, 1264 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean I remember we had this is my little 1265 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: antidote for the day in terms of we had to 1266 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 1: do these we had to do basically like pas Kelly. 1267 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: So I'd go with the tight ends down to pas 1268 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Kelly and Coach Boris would take him in the run 1269 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: install And I remember, you know we're going to run 1270 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: this route called a crossbow, so I know what it is. 1271 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 1: I've told Dawson what to run in this situation. I 1272 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 1: basically in the middle of field safety. Dawson runs at 1273 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 1: me like he's running like across the field, and then 1274 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: he plants his foot and he breaks it back out 1275 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 1: to the same way he's coming. This is media day, 1276 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: just to add injury to insult to injury. So we're 1277 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 1: out there. I'm stood there like flat foot in the 1278 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 1: middle field. He comes at me. I know where he's going. 1279 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: I felt so fast on my face, my feet just 1280 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 1: went dead. Laying there feeling super athletic, and Dawson catches it. 1281 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,639 Speaker 1: It was it was beautiful. That's the thing. Like I 1282 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 1: I like, look at these guys too, Like so many 1283 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 1: of them are almost uncoverable that we didn't even talk 1284 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 1: about Davante Smith, like Deante Johnson who gets open quickly, 1285 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: d J Moore, Jerry Judy, we didn't get oh b 1286 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 1: J like. And then then you have the vertical guys, 1287 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Mike Williams, Allen Robinson. It's just like, I don't know, man, 1288 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: it's it just seems like the safest thing ever in 1289 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: a draft a wide receiver these days. And that's what 1290 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: we saw in the first round. UH. This year. Phoebe 1291 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 1: also the NFL flag ambassador. UH. You are a busy woman, 1292 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: and we thank you for taking the time. Best of 1293 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: luck with everything, including on the field. UH. And we 1294 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 1: really enjoyed having you. Thank you guys so much for 1295 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: having me. It's been great to chat and compete. We'll 1296 01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: see what social media really right. I just realized like 1297 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: that she's gonna win. I just knowing our listeners, I 1298 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: just feel like, um, they'll look past the superior team 1299 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,640 Speaker 1: that I put together and they'll just like want to 1300 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 1: be nice to a new guest, which I get that 1301 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: didn't that was a very great way to go out 1302 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 1: with our guest. But let the best person win, I say, Phoebe, 1303 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. There she goes Phoebe check thanks 1304 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: Phoebe follower on Twitter and on Instagram. That's Phoebe underscore 1305 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 1: scheckter awesome guest. Um, Greg, I do feel a little. 1306 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,640 Speaker 1: I feel really guilty. Do you want to do you 1307 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 1: want to get Godwin out of the mix? Is that no? No? 1308 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: I think we can put a little you know, graver 1309 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 1: can put a little asterick if you if you listen 1310 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,640 Speaker 1: to the show, which is most that's most important. Um, 1311 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: people will hear the context of it and Chris. I 1312 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: love Chris Godwin. So I don't want to be why 1313 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 1: do you want? The asterist is coming off a torn 1314 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: c Oh, that's the only thing. I'm sort of like 1315 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 1: throwing that out of the mix here, all right, So 1316 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 1: head over to the A T N podcast uh to 1317 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 1: cast your vote on who has the best wide receiver 1318 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 1: room in this weird universe where there's not really any 1319 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: other players or coaches or teams, but there are rooms 1320 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: of wide receivers. I mean, it's a universe I'd like 1321 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 1: to live in. UM. I think it's gonna get people angry. 1322 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,799 Speaker 1: People are gonna be mad that we didn't even mention 1323 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 1: certain guys or you know, like people are gonna be 1324 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 1: mad about certain picks. This is this is it. This 1325 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,919 Speaker 1: is our recipe. The next ten episodes, Dan just drafting 1326 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,240 Speaker 1: random rooms, and it felt like a nice opportunity for 1327 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 1: a Miya Kulpa for you to grab Hunter Renfrow there. 1328 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 1: That would have been I I, for some reason had 1329 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: it in my head that you were gonna throw a 1330 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 1: category that was like undersized slot receivers with like who 1331 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 1: are losing their hair and you're just gonna like forced 1332 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 1: me to damn it, that's a way better category than 1333 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: the ones I came up with. Um, Hunter, I got you, though, buddy, 1334 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 1: You're having a great career. I'm a huge fan. He 1335 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 1: he would have been on my long list. I mean, 1336 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 1: that's the thing you would you might have to get 1337 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: the thirty till you get to Renfro and he's he's 1338 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 1: a beast that I think you've made the point, so 1339 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,919 Speaker 1: I'll just kind of echo it that it makes sense why, 1340 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 1: given the recent results, why these teams are more comfortable 1341 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: taking the first rounder or taking the quarterback or the 1342 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver early in the first and even second round, 1343 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 1: because just the odds are kind of playing in your favor. 1344 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: That what you're seeing on tape um, either in the 1345 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:41,680 Speaker 1: games or with the various uh you know measurables, it 1346 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 1: will translate. So it is gold. The game has changed. Um, okay, 1347 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,840 Speaker 1: we'll be back on Thursday. I think Sessler's back on Thursday. Yeah, 1348 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: got marked back. Uh, first show with three of us 1349 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 1: in a while, so I'll be nice. We'll have some fun. 1350 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 1: We are in the middle of the off season, so 1351 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 1: thank you to everybody that is listening and has followed along. 1352 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. We'll see you on Thursday, uh 1353 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: with Mark and all the gang. Thank you again to 1354 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 1: Phoebe Scheckter. Until Thursday, heed the call.