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Speaker 1: It's not like being both positive. Yeah, it's not our

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Speaker 2: It's just it's every Cardinals fans worst nightmare coming to life.

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Speaker 2: First turn through the rotation, which is brutal, you know

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Speaker 1: Imagine you're Ali Marmle and you have to mix and

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Speaker 1: No, you're not wrong. You didn't say anything wrong.

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Speaker 1: Like it just feels like they're good. It feels like

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Speaker 1: they're going to their nine to five and just clocking

429
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Speaker 1: and clocking out. There's like they're having any fun. Right,

430
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Speaker 1: you lose boguards, you lose JD and you lose kind

431
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Speaker 1: of that edge a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like Devers is hitting three ten with a

433
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Speaker 2: nine to twenty ops right now through seven games, Like

434
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Speaker 2: that feels pretty awesome. He's awesome, He's great. But I'm

435
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Speaker 2: worried that he is to the Red Sox. What Like

436
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: we've talked about Luis Araies being to the Marlins where

437
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: he's great, everybody else blows. Tristan Kassas is hitting a

438
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Speaker 2: buck forty three in seven games, you know what I mean? Yeah,

439
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Speaker 2: what if it's Devers and nobody else, that's my concern.

440
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Speaker 2: I think Yoshida is going to flirt with three hundred.

441
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Speaker 2: I think he's a really good hitter. I think Cossas

442
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: is going to get a lot a lot better when

443
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Speaker 2: it's not cold as shit outside. But Devers has adjusted

444
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Speaker 2: because he's a good hitter. Show me that you are

445
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Speaker 2: a good hitter, Tristan Cassas, show me that you're a

446
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: good hitter. A mansa Taki Yoshita, please somebody do it?

447
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: And then the starting rotation. I mean, Cutter Crawford's sucked,

448
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: Chris Sale has sucked. Corey Klueber has been a bore

449
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Speaker 2: to watch. There's there's corek.

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Speaker 1: Klober, Kreek Clober like threw a good start. You're just

451
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Speaker 1: like it was so boring.

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Speaker 2: Boring, dude, is it not?

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Speaker 1: No, you're completely spot odd. That's what's funny. You know,

454
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Speaker 1: there's truth in comedy. It's right. It was eighty eight

455
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Speaker 1: to ninety and it was just like, yeah, he got out,

456
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Speaker 1: but it wasn't impressive. I'm like against the Pirates at home,

457
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Speaker 1: that wasn't impressive.

458
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Speaker 2: That's the thing, man, this is the first Boston Red

459
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Speaker 2: Sox team in a decade that we're saying yeah, aside

460
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Speaker 2: from Devers, there just really isn't anything impressive on this

461
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: team right now.

462
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Speaker 1: Because the Red Sox are built on that fu attitude,

463
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: the edge, Like we just come in and they think

464
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Speaker 1: they can beat anybody, And where is it? I agree,

465
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Speaker 1: not swept by the Pirates shape up and we're yelling

466
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Speaker 1: at their fans right now. Sorry, Like in case, Adam

467
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Speaker 1: Duval is a beautiful listener, the just Baseball show show

468
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: up actually because he's been the ably good one. But

469
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Speaker 1: Key K show up. Yeah, right, some of these guys

470
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: like you need more Justin Turner show up, guys like that.

471
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Speaker 1: But the Red Sox, like, I still think they're a

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Speaker 1: seventy seven win team. Right, they get good starts, sometimes

473
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Speaker 1: the offense goes crazy. I still think there's seventy seven

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Speaker 1: win team. Think we'll still the fifth fifth. I think

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Speaker 1: the Oiels are good, and it's not because I think

476
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox are so bad that I think they

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Speaker 1: finished last. I'm just high on the Orioles. I liked

478
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Speaker 1: their offense a lot, and I still think that they're

479
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Speaker 1: a good team. And I was impressed with g Rod,

480
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Speaker 1: which is huge for them. Like the Red Sox don't

481
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Speaker 1: have a g Rod. No if Brian Beao, who's not

482
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Speaker 1: up yet, like they don't have that, like they have Whitlock,

483
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Speaker 1: I guess coming back, but he doesn't have the upside

484
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Speaker 1: that g Rod does. Like Colorvin would be the ace

485
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Speaker 1: on this Red Sox team. Right now, you can say

486
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Speaker 1: Chris Sale and yeah, he started with eight balls, then

487
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Speaker 1: he struck out the next three guys and he gave

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Speaker 1: up a home run to Jake Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Shout out Jake Rogers, like Sales, tough man. Sale is

490
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Speaker 2: such a tough nut to crack.

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Speaker 1: He's throwing ninety two, He's throw ninety so good, so old.

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Speaker 1: I love Chris Sale. I think he's such a dog.

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Speaker 1: I love his mentality and that's the edge, right, he's

494
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: not pitching with that, I'm gonna blow it by you

495
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Speaker 1: and you can't do shit about it.

496
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Speaker 2: But my thing is maybe he just physically can't anymore,

497
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Speaker 2: which sucks.

498
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Speaker 1: That would suck if that's the case. But he was

499
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Speaker 1: up to ninety five ninety six in his first start

500
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Speaker 1: and then now it's ninety two. But no way, he

501
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 1: just got so old the past week.

502
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Speaker 2: Again, we're talking about like Florida Boys and keyk is

503
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican, like all these guys not stepping up. But

504
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: it's like it's cold as shit outside.

505
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Speaker 1: It is cold as shit, Like that's the only reason

506
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Speaker 1: Spencer Torkosen was bad last year because he was cold

507
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Speaker 1: and he's used to playing in Arizona exactly.

508
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Speaker 2: That was the only reason last week. Reason right, last

509
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: team that we got to talk about before we get

510
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: to Ryan Finkelstein and the Mets is Seattle is two

511
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: and five right now, and they've been handed two very

512
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: difficult series to open up their season, granted, both of

513
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: which were at home. They hosted Cleveland for a weekend

514
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: set and then they hosted the Angels. Cleveland's a good team.

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Speaker 2: The Angels have looked like a good team against Seattle

516
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Speaker 2: so far. Man, I know Tani threw well yesterday. Oh

517
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: Toni's great, dude, Like indisputably the best player on Earth

518
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: right now.

519
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Speaker 1: I want him to go to New York selfishly, like

520
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Speaker 1: I kind of want him to go to the Mets

521
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Speaker 1: or the Yankees just so I can watch the rest

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Speaker 1: of his current person. That's it. Like, I just want

523
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: to be able to go to the ballpark and be

524
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Speaker 1: like I get to watch Shohala Tahani today. But your

525
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: greatest player I've ever seen in my own two eyes.

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Speaker 1: He's such. He's a rocket ship. He's not from this planet.

527
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Speaker 2: He is such a treat. You're right. They've been dealt

528
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Speaker 2: a lot of tough losses. They did get a win

529
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Speaker 2: eleven to two over La on Tuesday, But on Monday night,

530
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: you know, George Kirby goes four and a third and

531
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Speaker 2: allows nine hits and four earns. So there have just

532
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Speaker 2: been some some speed bumps for Seattle at two and five.

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Speaker 2: To be quite honest, I'm not concerned with them at all.

534
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: So all the negative energy that I just had regards

535
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Speaker 2: to the Red Sox, I don't have much negative energy whatsoever.

536
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 2: When it comes to the Seattle Mariners.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Mariners are experiencing the waves of Tiascar Hernandez. Right,

538
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: you started to start off really slow. Blue Jays fans

539
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: though good as well. The ebbs and flows at ti Oscar.

540
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Speaker 1: When Tiascar is hot. Sometimes I say he's the best

541
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Speaker 1: hitter on planet Earth. He is amazing. He can go

542
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: stretches where hits five hundred with with like home run

543
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: every day. It's unbelievable. Mariners fans, you're gonna become accustomed

544
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Speaker 1: to the Tiascar Hernandez wave. Just watch right now, he's

545
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: starting off slow. Wait till that man gets hot. You

546
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: can't get him out right Now he's starting off slow,

547
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: but he's already starting to tick up, right. I think

548
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: he started zero for ten and now he's already got

549
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: a seven eighteen ops. So we's starting to heat up

550
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, JP Crawt is, you know,

551
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: walking but not enough. I guess the one concern I

552
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: have with the Mariners because their pitchers had some bad starts,

553
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: Like George Kirby's not gonna look like that again. No,

554
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure cal Rawley is a stud. Offensively, like, is

555
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: he a guy who had just a great year last year,

556
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: like Mike Zunino has put up years where you at

557
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: forty bombs and then HiT's one eighty. Like cal Rawley

558
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: doesn't have a ton of prospect pedigree, and he's off

559
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: to a slow start. So I'm not even saying that

560
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is true. It's just something a guy

561
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: had a really good year, kind of came out of

562
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: nowhere and then starting off slow. Not saying anything, just

563
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Speaker 1: something to watch. Is he the guy? Is he the

564
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: big dumper that we thought he was?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I'll be on record saying that I am

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Speaker 2: a big cal Rally guy. I think that he is

567
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: a very talented hitter. I think that he is a

568
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: good defender, and I think that he has insane pop.

569
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Speaker 2: We just have yet to see the to the first seven.

570
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: But I mean, we are talking about a guy that

571
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Speaker 2: is hitting what like two seventy in the early goings.

572
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: I want to say, he's played six or seven games

573
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: and he's hitting two seventy two eighty yeah, two seventy

574
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: three seventy six games. Yeah, So he's got six hits,

575
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: three of witch doubles, he's driven in five. So he's

576
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: rocking a six eighty two ops. Right now, I'm not

577
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: worried about cal Raley. The two that I am a

578
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: little worried about, Colton Wong has looked like ass He's

579
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Speaker 2: one for sixteen to open his season, and then kell

580
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Nick Man, he's three for fifteen with seven punch outs.

581
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: What is Kelnick?

582
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? What are you? Yeah? Because it's not like he

583
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Speaker 1: looks great defensively either.

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Speaker 2: No, it's like, give me a clue into who you're

585
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: gonna be as a player, because you know, we were

586
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: talking about this guy as a future All Star and

587
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: we're talking about this guy that doesn't even look like

588
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: he's major league caliber. And then he goes back down

589
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: and then he has an awesome spring and it's like, Okay, yes,

590
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: if Kelnick is good, then this Mariners team is great.

591
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: And Kelnick, I honestly, I would have more closure if

592
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: he and Colton Wang flipped lines and Kelnick was one

593
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: for sixteen, because I'd be like, yep, that's Kelnick. He's

594
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: just not going to be good at the major league

595
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: level in the regular season. He's he's an excellent triple

596
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: A player, but he is a tweener. I just I

597
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: can't find resolution about him. And the thing that kills me.

598
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: The most about him is yes, he's got some jews,

599
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: but this guy with that build, with that athletic prowess

600
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: should not be striking out as often.

601
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Speaker 1: As he does.

602
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here we got neither looking at Kelnick, you know,

603
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: with seven k's and sixteen played appearances, and we're just saying, oh,

604
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: same old, same old. So if there's anybody to have

605
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: frustration with, I'd say, give Colton Wang a couple more games,

606
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: see if he has a three for four day, because

607
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: that elevates him to two hundred. But Kelnick would certainly

608
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: be the source of my frustration there.

609
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, the Mariners are kind of like the Phillies to me,

610
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Speaker 1: where I think, to myself, they're not playing really good

611
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: baseball right now, you know, not really that worried like

612
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: Luis Castie. Oh he looks amazing, he looks amazing. So

613
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, just going back to the Mariners thing, I

614
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: think it's tough because you watch as a Mariners fan.

615
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: I am been on the bandwagon of this team is

616
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: going to win the World Series and they're just not

617
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: clicking right now. But my main takeaway from the Mariners is,

618
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Speaker 1: of all the contenders that started off poorly, I'm the

619
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: least concerned with them.

620
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: Yes, same, I think in terms of most concerned, to

621
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Speaker 2: least concern, at least concerned, the most concerned Mariners, I'm

622
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: the least concerned. Then it's Saint Louis, then it's Philly,

623
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Speaker 2: and then we never call the Red Sox like contenders,

624
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: but the Red Sox, I'm the most concerned. And this

625
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: is valid. This is what this season may look like.

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Speaker 1: I think for me, as I put I'm not concerned

627
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: with the Mariners, and I put the Phillies and Cardinals

628
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: in the I'm not really concerned, but that I'm watching,

629
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: and then the Red Sox I just am concerned.

630
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair, And you get our answer now with Ryan

631
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: Finkelstein and the Mets Managing editor Ryan Finkelstein, also the

632
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: host of Lockdown, Mets is wearing his LEFGM shirt, He's

633
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: got his Binghamton rubble Poti's hat, He's got his Mets

634
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: flag in the background. So think on a scale of

635
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: one to Rome has fallen? How fallen is Rome? In

636
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: regards to the New York Mets.

637
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: It's We're all good man, It's sunshine and rainbows.

638
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: Alvarez is up.

639
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: Come on, I don't even remember what happened in the

640
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 4: last three days.

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Speaker 1: No, And I'm really excited to talk about a lot

642
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: of the young prospects because as a team that's really

643
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: in a rebuild right now and more looking forward to

644
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: next year, taking it slow this year, like we all

645
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: knew that it wasn't this year, probably not next either.

646
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to talk about the Double A team,

647
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: maybe the High A team, international prospects that we're looking at.

648
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for the rebuild, and I'm sure you

649
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: are too.

650
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: That's why I got my Rumble Ponies hat on. I mean,

651
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: it's all about the Double A. You know, a lot

652
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: of talent down there, because the MLB club didn't look

653
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: too talented in Walk.

654
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I admit it was. It was a rough series.

655
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: I should have included that, like the sun emoji in

656
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: my text to Fink this morning asking him to hop

657
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: on the Just Baseball Show, because he knew damn well

658
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: that we were just going to be dicks to him.

659
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: I totally know that.

660
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: He What's funny is, I was like, I think I said,

661
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: I guessed he I was like, I guess, I'll come on.

662
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: I was like, I really don't even want disappearance on

663
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: the Just Baseball Show, and then like the Alvarez news

664
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: just gave me an olive wrench, Like all right, I

665
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: can go on with a smile because at least there's

666
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: something I'm excited about.

667
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: Let's get the negative shit out of the way first,

668
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: and then we can get Dalvarez.

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Speaker 1: You cool with that? Could I talk about the just

670
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: the scope of the NL East fans right now? Philly's

671
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: fans are on fire Braves fans are the most confident

672
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: fan base alive. Marlin's fans are more depressed than maybe

673
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: any fan base in Major League Baseball after what happened

674
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: to Jazz. That there's low start to the season, and

675
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: Nationals fans I think have already given up. And then

676
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: there's this Mets fan base, this division right now, the

677
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: National League East. The fans are the funniest group of

678
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: people on the earth right now.

679
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: Dude, it's another year. It's every year.

680
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 4: Every year we get so high that the NL East

681
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: is gonna arrive with the Alast this year, Everything's gonna

682
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: be great. And then you know, right out of the gates,

683
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: two teams are gonna fall in their face. And the

684
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: brands are always gonna still be good.

685
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: That's that's typically how it goes.

686
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: This Milwaukee series coupled with Atlanta sweeping the Cardinals in

687
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Like, I mean, this Milwaukee series would not

688
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: sting the way it did if Atlanta didn't sweep the

689
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: Cardinals here, Like, let's be frank there, because obviously you're

690
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: measuring against the Atlanta Braves. The You're gonna do that

691
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: all year long, and both sides you're dealing with, you know,

692
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: injuries of plenty right now, and you can see it

693
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: in the starting rotation, right Kyle Wright, his vlow is

694
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: very down in Gwinnette two nights ago, so Wright might

695
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: not even be ready. We know Freed's missing a start

696
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: or two. Shuster looked like ass. But you've got Verlander

697
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: on the il and you've got guys that are getting

698
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: beaten to a pulp by the Milwaukee Brewers. And we

699
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: talked about the Brewers on yesterday's show. This is one

700
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: of the most exciting offenses in baseball through the first

701
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: week of the season. But I mean, give me, like

702
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: your level of concern when it comes to the pitching

703
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: staff right now. I mean, no ds on the back end,

704
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: but in the rotation as well.

705
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: On a scale of nine to ten to ten, that's.

706
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: To nine and a half.

707
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 4: Overall, I think that I'm not too concerned because Max Schurzer,

708
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: I don't think that this is going to be a

709
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: complete regression where because he turned thirty eight.

710
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: Or whatever is he's just gonna fall the cliff.

711
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: I do think the fact that he's given up three

712
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: home runs or four home runs in the first two

713
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: starts is a little bit eye popping.

714
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: Five.

715
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: You know, maybe he's not going to pitch to a

716
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: low two ERA this year. But I think and killby

717
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 4: fied Code, I Sanga looked awesome. So I'm still hanging

718
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 4: on to every one of those starts right now. But look,

719
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: this is a staff that you know, lost Cantana and spring.

720
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: Verlander gets hurt on opening day. You know, that's when

721
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: we find out the news, and you know, it's it's

722
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of you know, trying to scramble for answers,

723
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 4: and the bullpen got taxed really early and so even there, like.

724
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: They were so thin yesterday. But I'm not going to

725
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: overreact to one week of baseball.

726
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: I'm just not overall, I still think that they're throwing

727
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: out a quality starter pretty much every fifth day. The

728
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: only guy that I'm actually concerned about of is he

729
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: gonna stick in the rotation this year is Carlos Carrasco.

730
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: That's the only guy that I look at and say,

731
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 4: you know, there's no chance mcgil is already a fill

732
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: in when Verlander comes back, he gets bumped, and if

733
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 4: Carrasco continues to struggle, mcguil's a guy that can grab

734
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: that spot. So I still think they're okay, but I

735
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: understand why people are freaking out.

736
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: I want to apologize to you and to Met's fans

737
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: everywhere because I want to remove some karma from myself

738
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: opening Day, because I do like the Mets, like I

739
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: went to City Field probably twenty times last year. I

740
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: love going to Mets games. I love watching them do well.

741
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: I just like New York Sports like. I'm not one

742
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: of those guys where I love the Yankees hate the Mets,

743
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: like I want both teams to go well. My dream

744
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: is to have the Mets face the Yankees in the

745
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: World Series and be able to go to all seven games.

746
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: So I'm always rooting for the Mets. But at the

747
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: same time, I do find it funny when bad things

748
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: happen to the Mets, because you see the outcry from

749
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: the fans and it's just the classic. They're the Mets. Yeah,

750
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: so what I want to remove karma? Because right, I'm

751
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: a bettingman. I want all the good karma possible. I

752
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: did laugh when Justin Verlander started the year on the

753
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: IL with an armpit injury. I did laugh, and I'm

754
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: sorry I didn't mean it, but I did laugh. So

755
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: moving on from that, are we good? Is karma removed?

756
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: Or at my sill screwed?

757
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, you know that. Have you ever

758
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: seen this is?

759
00:37:59,600 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: You know what?

760
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: Yes?

761
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: You did?

762
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen this is the end? Think?

763
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

764
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: Okay? So like j Bearschell, Seth Rogen, James Franco, it's

765
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: it's the apocalypse, right, and everybody that's good gets sucked

766
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: up into heaven and all the pieces of shit like

767
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: stay down right, Yeah, And they start saying really nice

768
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: things about each other, and they're like, why are we

769
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: not getting.

770
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: Sucked in ahead?

771
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: It's only when like they actually sacrifice themselves.

772
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 3: That's what he's what you're saying.

773
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: That's what he just did, Like he just said something nice,

774
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: thinking he'll get sucked up into heaven and karma's good,

775
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: but still like absolutely not.

776
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: You have to give you have to give me a break.

777
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: It was an armpit injury. Yeah, it's like he like

778
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: farted on himself with like tore a tailboat, even though

779
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: it's a bone. You can't tear a boat. But it's

780
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: like an armped injury. Really yeah, not.

781
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: Only that the injury had major in it. So like

782
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: how many Mets fans like had a heart attack before

783
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: they read the full tweak because it was like major

784
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: terrorists or whatever it was, and it was like it

785
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: sounded horrible and it's like day to.

786
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: Day Yeah, brutal.

787
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: Oh my next question, who are you more pissed at?

788
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go through all the guys who currently

789
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: have a negative war and there's some good players. First

790
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Tomasnito because Omarnerviez is out eight

791
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: to nine weeks now. He's the starter, but we'll talk

792
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: about Franciscovrez later. He's rocking a negative point three f wour.

793
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: He's slashing zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero

794
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: zero through nine plate appearances, so he's one. Jeff McNeil

795
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: has a five sixty two oh ps negative one or

796
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: negative point one war. Excuse me. We have Mark Kanna

797
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: negative point war hitting one sixty, and we have Edward O.

798
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: Escobar hitting one hundred, slugging one hundred at negative zero

799
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: point four war. Who's pissing you off the most?

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00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: Edward Oescobar without a doubt.

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00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it.

802
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 4: Of course, because I mean I wanted Brett Baty, you know,

803
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: I wanted Brett Baty to start the season. Now he's

804
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 4: dealing with the little fun thing anyway.

805
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, at.

806
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: Ward Owescobar is at bats, particularly against ridies, which is

807
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: the SADDI strukes with his left handed swing have just

808
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: been awful, so bad. He's swinging a wolfleball bat out

809
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: there just does not look good. So Escobar probably the

810
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: top of that list. Like Nito, no one expects him

811
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 4: to hit, so that's not a big deal.

812
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: McNeil.

813
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 4: I think everyone thinks he's gonna break out of it. Canna,

814
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, his at bats haven't been horrible.

815
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: He just hasn't really had a lot of luck so far.

816
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: So it's Escobar is the guy that is in red

817
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: sharpie right now.

818
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: He's getting a lot of hate and jack. It makes

819
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: sense though, right, why Brett Baty would start in the

820
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: minor leagues. He's a big, burly righty you know, can't

821
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: hit right handed pitching it all, really bad defender, not handsome.

822
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: So I get why Brett Baty started in the minor

823
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: leagues because a ward of Escobar, even though yeah, maybe

824
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: he can't hit right handed pitching, even though he sees

825
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: it two thirds of the time. But sometimes you roll

826
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: with him, right, because he's been in the league with

827
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: the Brewers. Right, yes, Brett Baty, right right.

828
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 2: You got him exactly right. I'm googling the Rihanna lyric

829
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: and pour it up. Dollar signs. All I see is

830
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: dollar signs. That's why Eduardo Escobar is in the lineup?

831
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: Like can we acknowledge that? So, I mean, I understand

832
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: why they did it, Like you've got that many millions

833
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: committed to that guy for this year.

834
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's why he's in the lineup.

835
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 3: I really don't.

836
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: Why do you think he's in the well obviously now

837
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: like Baty's got a thumb thing going on.

838
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: So I just I don't think that this is a

839
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 4: Mets team that that's making decisions based on ten million

840
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: dollars of salary when they, you know, just ate twenty

841
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: million on Cano last year and they ate all of

842
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: Cano's McCann's contract to deal them. I think it's more

843
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 4: a matter of could we squeeze a year of service

844
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: time out of bread Baby?

845
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: Probably, and I think it was.

846
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: I think it was when they constructed the roster, they

847
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: decided that they needed Tim Lacashtro on it because they

848
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: have Daniel Vogelback as the DH They liked the idea

849
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: of in the seventh inning, when vogel Back draws a walk,

850
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: they could put La Castro out there to deal of base.

851
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: Then you get into a roster crunch.

852
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: So I think it was a lot of things where

853
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 4: you know, you signed Tommy fam this offseason, so you need.

854
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: Him on the roster.

855
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: You need your major backup utility infielder, you need a

856
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: backup catcher. You start to lose roster spots to get

857
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: a pinch running specialist, and you make when you add

858
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: it all together, you can say Escobar had a great September.

859
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 3: Escobar is a veteran leader. Batty.

860
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: If we keep in Triple A until June third, we

861
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: get a year of service time and he hasn't played

862
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 4: in Triple A yet. You can just kind of talk

863
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 4: yourself into it.

864
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of things.

865
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it's specifically ten million dollars for Escobar Bear.

866
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's June three that is Baty's cut

867
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: off here, and he would be a Super two candidate.

868
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: I think I didn't realize last year he was on

869
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: the big league IL, but that makes sense because he

870
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: got hurt at the big league level. So he got

871
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: fifty days of major league service time in twenty twenty two,

872
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: which is a crazy high number considering he only played

873
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 2: eleven games. So June three is a long time granted,

874
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: like a thumb issue helps because that thing will nag

875
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: for a while. And I don't think is JPR and

876
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: CBA the TRIPA manager or is he just like on

877
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: the coaching staff.

878
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: I think you might be right about that. I think

879
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: he is the manager.

880
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: I know RNCBA is on the Syracuse coaching staff. He

881
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: may be the manager. If he is, then JPR and

882
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: CBA can say, oh, you know what, like let's just

883
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: keep Adye out of the lineup for precautionary reasons for

884
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: a couple of days. My last negative question here before

885
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: we get to Francisco Albarez. You know you can throw

886
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: away like the goddamnit where the Mets game Game three

887
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee when Garrett Mitchell walked it off seven to six,

888
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: ten nine in game one or sorry, ten nothing in

889
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: game one, nine nothing in game two. So they're outscored

890
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: nineteen to nothing. Game one was Freddie Peralta and Bryce Wilson,

891
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: and they walked six times, they scattered base runners nine

892
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: to nothing. You're shut out by Wade Miley, Peter Strezleki,

893
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: who else, Holy Milner and Javi Garrett.

894
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: Okay, those are four really good pictures though, so you

895
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: give him a break.

896
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: How frustrating was that game?

897
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 3: Think it was bad? It was bad? Uh? They were

898
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 3: both bad.

899
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, they're they're extremely frustrating. And it's you know,

900
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 4: even more so when it's like so many you see

901
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: Brian Anderson just just kills the Mets. So there's nothing

902
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: that Mets fans hate more than a former division rival

903
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 4: who's like on a different team.

904
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 3: It looks great speaking a handsome Brian Anderson.

905
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: Huh, come on, especially in the Brew. He looks way

906
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: better in the Brewers' uniform too, than that Marlin's uniform. Uh,

907
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: Jesse Winker had a big series, so it was just

908
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of crap for three days for Mets fans.

909
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: But again, early in the season, I'm not worried yet.

910
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: When do you get worried? What's what's When is the

911
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: panic button? Obviously not yet. You know, we'll I'll.

912
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: Probably say if the Marlins win ten nothing on the

913
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 4: home opener, then I start worrying. That's so it is soon,

914
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 4: Oh soon, it could be so interesting and then I

915
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 4: can come right back around. That's what it's like to

916
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 4: be a Mets fan.

917
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Interesting though I'm surprised it is that soon, because we

918
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: joke around this team is really good. Verlander is going

919
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: to come back. Code I sang, it did look good.

920
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: You expect shers Or to bounce back. Peterson had a

921
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: rough start against the Birwers, but he's fine. Cookie I

922
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: think is only going to get better too. And you

923
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: look at the lineup like Pete A Lonzo's yeah, he

924
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: has three on runs, but he's not going to be

925
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: rocking like a what's his ops right now? His ops

926
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: is eight seventy seven because he's slugging, but he's hitting

927
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: one ninety two like Lindor is only going to get

928
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: better too. So I guess the reason we're making fun

929
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: of Mets fans, the reason we're making fun of Phillies fans,

930
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: is because the panic button is being pressed too fast.

931
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: So that's all I wanted to see when you actually

932
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: became nervous, because you can't really say that you're nervous

933
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: if the Mets lose to the Marlins in one game,

934
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: like it's April seventh.

935
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I honestly, it's you give a team until

936
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: like June to really like start to panic if if

937
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: the Mets are below five hundred and we get to June.

938
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: But I don't think that's gonna happen. I think this

939
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: team's too good. I think that Buck Showalter is going

940
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 4: to get that team roll on at some point very soon,

941
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 4: like I don't. I think that's the difference that having

942
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: Buck made last year is they never went on a

943
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: big skid and they could have a bad series, but

944
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: generally they bounce back and find a way to win

945
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: the next one. And I'm sure they do that this

946
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 4: weekend against the Marlin. I'm sure they went at least

947
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 4: two or three.

948
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: So the Syracuse Mets had a great opening weekend in Worcester.

949
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: Francisco Alvarez was part of that. Obviously, the headlines were

950
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: brought batty baty goes down. Alvarez, though four games in

951
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: Syracuse has hit a couple of bombs. He's opsing over

952
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: one thousand. But the last look on like s n

953
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: Y or national television that the Mets got of Francisco

954
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: Alvarez was his five games last year when he went

955
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: two for twelve and spring training when he went three

956
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: for twenty eight. Now Narvaias is out for two plus months.

957
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: This is Alvarez's job. What do you expect from Francisco

958
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 2: Alvarez when he does crack the lineup for the Mets?

959
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Do you expect growing pains or do you think, hey,

960
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: you know what, he kind of went through that already

961
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: against big league competition. Let's just throw him in and

962
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: he may swim.

963
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, I just did an emergency

964
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 4: episode of my show that I'm in the middle of

965
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 4: producing right now.

966
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: Sorry for taking me away from that, Oh emergency episode on.

967
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: A got to Alvarez, man, Wait till you see the

968
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: numbers I'll see why I did it, But look, I

969
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: was hyped on that show.

970
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: But I also said at the same.

971
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 4: Time, like, you know, this is not Alvarez earning his

972
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: promotion to the big leagues like he was Intropla for

973
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: a reason. We were in spring training. I had a

974
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 4: lot of complaints about guys not making the team. I

975
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: was talking about Baby and Vento's I was not talking

976
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 4: about Francisco Alvarett. He needed that seasoning.

977
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: At the same time, with the player.

978
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: This talented getting this big of a leeway, you think

979
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 4: that the talent might just arrive early a little bit here.

980
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: My expectation for Francisco Alvarez is to run into some

981
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: home runs, but he's gonna strike out a little bit

982
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 4: more than he probably does in the minor leagues, and

983
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: there's going to be growing pains for sure. I think

984
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: that it's you know, going to be exciting to see

985
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: him in the lineup for the home opener. I hope

986
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 4: they do that, and I feel like he's the type

987
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 4: of kid that could thrive in that more of a

988
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 4: healthy landing spot than what we saw last year. What

989
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: the mess did to him last year was like malfeas

990
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: It's like they complete it was horrible.

991
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: You his season's over.

992
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 4: He's driving home after a great season where he finished

993
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: in a triple gets a call to go join the

994
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: Mats in the middle of a pennant race that had

995
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 4: spanned for months, in the biggest series of the year

996
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 4: in Atlanta against one of the toughest pitching stats in baseball,

997
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: to face like Alvarez comes up against Roselli Glacias in

998
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: the eighth inning, or you know, with just so much

999
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 4: pressure on him. Now he's facing the Marlins in a

1000
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 4: home ballpark that's ready to fall in love with him.

1001
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: I think he's got a.

1002
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: Much better chance to succeed this time than he did

1003
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 4: last time, but he's still arriving earlier than we expected.

1004
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: I have a question for you too about Francisco Alvarez,

1005
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: because I'm not very concerned about the bat. Right it

1006
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: might take a little while to get going, but he

1007
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: has such a special bat and he's going to run

1008
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: into home runs that at worst, he's a league average

1009
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: catcher offensively this year. I think at worse, because he

1010
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: has so much upside to be one of the better

1011
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: catchers in baseball. The offensively, my concern we talked about

1012
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: this when we did our season previews of the National

1013
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: League East, and it's an older staff, right. You got

1014
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: the two Hall of famers at the top. You got

1015
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Kodei Segam making the transition from the MPB. You have

1016
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: Cookie Carrasco who's been in the league a very long time,

1017
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: and David Peterson who's trying to then transition to the

1018
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: rotation after multiple years in the bullpen. Do you think

1019
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: a young catcher like that who they originally brought up

1020
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: to DH in that you know, cup of coffee that

1021
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: he had in the biggs, do you think he can

1022
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: shoulder the load of catching five six days a week.

1023
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: That's where my concern comes in because it's one thing

1024
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: to be a little bit you know, down defensively, and

1025
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: it's another thing for that to impact the pitching staff. Right,

1026
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: So that's where my concern is. I'm curious your concern

1027
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: level of him defensively because I'm not really concerned offensively.

1028
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna hit regardless.

1029
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 4: I think that it's gonna be a pretty healthy split

1030
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: to start out with him anito. I think they're not

1031
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: gonna just throw them to the wolves, and I think

1032
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna get some time of DH.

1033
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: It's gonna help that a little bit, you know.

1034
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 4: I think another big thing is that the pitchers can

1035
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: use the pitch com I think that helps him too.

1036
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 4: Like Max Schurz is calling his own game, so you know,

1037
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: Alvarez can go back and catch him. And obviously wanted

1038
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: to frame pitches, but he doesn't have to worry about

1039
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: that aspect of it takes some of the thought out

1040
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: for him, which I think helps. I would imagine that

1041
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: Tom is going to catch all of code is Sanga starts,

1042
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: because he already caught the first one. I think that

1043
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: they're gonna let him build that rapport with Nido, and

1044
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: I do think that Nido's still going to get behind

1045
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: the plate two to three times a week. I think

1046
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: Alvarez catches a couple. DH is a couple, and you

1047
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: know he starts. When he starts catching five times a week,

1048
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 4: it's because the bat is that undeniable. It just makes

1049
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: them that much better as a team that you deal with.

1050
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit of a loss on the defensive side.

1051
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So my thought there is, you know, you can

1052
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: hedge an inexperienced catcher with an experienced starting rotation and

1053
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: experienced relievers, and the Mets really have nobody that is

1054
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: newly thrown into the fire except Senga, which is why

1055
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 2: it makes a lot of sense for Nido, who is

1056
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: an experienced guy, to catch Sanga. But I've got minimal

1057
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: concerns with Scherzer or Carrasco, even a guy like McGill

1058
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: or even David Peterson who's figured out his way in

1059
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball throwing to Alvarez. The problem that you

1060
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 2: run into is if you've got young catcher, young arm,

1061
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: then nobody knows what the fuck's going on. But that's

1062
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: not really the case.

1063
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: But here was my kind of concern though, because to

1064
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: your point, yes they are, you know, veterans, they've been

1065
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: there before, shirtz or I think it's been pitching since

1066
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: I was born. But new rules, right, pitchclock, PitchCom a

1067
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: lot of new stuff. So there's alm so adjusting to

1068
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: new rules while he's then adjusting and already not good defensively.

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00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: That was my biggest concern with Alvarez. But again, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: think I was just gonna say.

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Speaker 3: The thing is Alvarez played in those rules.

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Speaker 4: Last year, and the miners, you know, he's great point,

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Speaker 4: He's got some experience with it, and you know, I

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Speaker 4: think the one thing is wondering about how he's going

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Speaker 4: to control the running game that that's becoming a little

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Speaker 4: more apparent and early early returns. But he threw out

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Speaker 4: three or five to start a season in Syracuse, So

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Speaker 4: I think he's been working really hard on the defense

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Speaker 4: because he knew that was the obstacle to get to

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Speaker 4: the big leagues. So I don't I don't think that

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Speaker 4: he's going to be some just disaster behind the plate.

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Speaker 4: Is he going to be above average? I think that

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Speaker 4: might be, you know, a little bit early to expect

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Speaker 4: him to be that.

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Speaker 3: But can he be passable back there? I think so?

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Speaker 4: Oh, And it's really gonna come down to the obvious question,

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Speaker 4: is he gonna hit?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 1: I have one last question and maybe I might spark

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Speaker 1: a couple more after Jack gives his last question. What's

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Speaker 1: been the most surprising thing? Right? Because we make fun

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00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: of the Mets in this episode and we're talking about

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Speaker 1: some guys with some negative war totals to start the year,

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00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: who has been the guy who you watch and say,

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00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably expected Ward of Westcabar to struggle right,

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00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: we expected Tomasnito to not hit, but who are some

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00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: guys who have struggled so far? And maybe you know

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Speaker 1: Lindor is a guy point zero war or something like that,

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00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: like who's the player or scenario where you say, man,

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00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: I just did not see that coming coming into the

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00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: year so far.

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Speaker 3: It was the Max Scherzer starting against the Brewers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I was there for the first

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Speaker 4: one on opening Day and like he gave up a

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00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: homer as Hilaire, but overall he was sharp throughout that game.

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00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 4: To see him, I mean he got homeward on three

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00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 4: times in a row, Max Schurzer, So that was I

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00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 4: guess the biggest one for me. Other than that, I mean,

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00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: you know, you could see like a Jeff McNeil struggling,

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00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 4: but we've seen him at time struggle and it's so early,

1113
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 4: like I give a lot of hitters some leeway at

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00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: the start of a season to judge him too quickly.

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00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: I'm surprised Tommy fam swung it.

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00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, that's awesome.

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00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 3: I'm surprised about that.

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00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: But I was thinking that the Tommy Sham nickname was

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00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: gonna come very quickly. But he's actually been pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I like the answer about Schurzer too, because he is

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Speaker 1: an older pitcher. You don't expect that early on. Right.

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Speaker 1: I could see it's September, right, He's thrown one hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty innings to this point, and his velocity dropped

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00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, we got to rest him

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Speaker 1: up for the postseason. Now he's struggling. That makes sense,

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Speaker 1: but after a full offseason. It's not like he played

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00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic or anything. It's not like

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00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: they were over extending him in spring training. It's Max Schurzer,

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to deliver opening Day.

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00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was.

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00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: It was, you know, a couple of rough starts for hims,

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00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 4: so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: The other thing, too, is watching.

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00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: Cookie's velocity dip like well below ninety percent for a

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00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: good part of his last start. That's another thing that

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00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: you're you're at thirty six years old and the VLO

1137
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 4: dip like that something you're going to be paying attention to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so last one for me. I know that in

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00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: the NBA we look at league fits a lot, like

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00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: what guys up roll up to the venue in and

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00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: there are like Instagram accounts dedicated to that, like league

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00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: fits everything like that. Francisco Alvarez is going to push

1143
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: the boundaries when it comes to league fits rolling up

1144
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: to city field. So I ask you to to grade

1145
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: this fashion sense where he's got red polo torn jeans

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00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: and the over the shoulder like satchel type thing com

1147
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: and look, he's kind of drippy. So if you could

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00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: just give me a rating of Alvarez's fashion sense one

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Speaker 2: through ten.

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00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 4: I honestly look like he has one leg in that picture,

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00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: and anyone else noticed that.

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00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand rip jeans. I don't understand. I've never

1153
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: understood that.

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00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: Look ever, hey, what's the common thing? Like? Why are

1155
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 2: you paying more for less fabric?

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00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? I love that joke because it makes sense. It's

1157
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: why it doesn't look good. It's like, oh, look at

1158
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: me by clothes or broken?

1159
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: Does Lindor has some good fits too?

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00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 4: I think Ascobar sometimes shows up pretty flashy of this

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00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: some of these games. There's a couple of guys and

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 4: obviously Pete Alonzo, I mean always you know fit King that.

1164
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: Was a crazy fit that he had on opening day.

1165
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: Starling Marte too totally forgot about Starling Marte.

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 4: Best chain in the game, Mickey Mouse that necklace. That

1167
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: must be like one hundred grand easy.

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00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: That's how good the Met season is going. Right now,

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00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: we're talking about their pregame fits. When they go into

1170
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: the game and strike out three times.

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00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 2: You know what, I Am going to watch the hell

1172
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 2: out of Trevor Rodgers and CODEI Sanga at four to

1173
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: ten on Saturday. That's going to be a really fun

1174
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 2: game to watch in New York.

1175
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: And if you guys don't hit Trevor Rodgers, I can

1176
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: understand pressing the panic button because he is giving up

1177
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: bomb after bomb. Coming over from last year. I really

1178
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: think that he is a good pitcher. At least he

1179
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: has good stuff. But again, matts struggle off lefties.

1180
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Speaker 3: It didn't the flust time out against Rogers.

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00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: But good point. We'll see. But Fank really appreciate you

1182
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: having me on, man. Thank you for coming into the

1183
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: hot stove and not making moves but a hot stove

1184
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: in terms of it's boiling in Queens. But they'll be fine.

1185
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: We all know they'll be fine. And to all the

1186
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: Mets fans listening who are now super pissed at Jack

1187
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: and I for reaming our guy Ryan, it's all in

1188
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: good fun. But sometimes he deserves to get reamed and

1189
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: for some reason, Fig, you are the poster boy for

1190
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: Mets with the Mets flag in your background. The LFG

1191
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: have shirt on in the rubble Ponies hat, so I

1192
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Yep, of course, guys anytime.

1194
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