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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the Bob left That's Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My guest this week is truly alleged the soundtrack of

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Speaker 1: my growing up, the one and only cousin Brucing. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: what a lovely introduction. Well so nice to not only

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Speaker 1: hear you, right, but also to see you. A pleasure,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much for the invitation. Really do

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I gotta tell you what a huge influencial.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you know you hear this all

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Speaker 1: the time, but when I went to college, I had

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Speaker 1: a radio show and I immediately called myself cousin Bobby.

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Speaker 1: And there are people to this day who say, hey, couse,

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Speaker 1: so this is not something you know that I'm blowing smoke.

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Speaker 1: This is a real thing. So were you always Brucy? No,

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Speaker 1: My parents at time, especially when they needed a babysitter

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get one, had other names for me. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say what they were, but yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: my name is Brucey. It's always been brucy. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: so when you've been on the radio, from the moment

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Speaker 1: you're on radio, was also brucy. Yeah. Well no that's

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Speaker 1: not true. No, my real name is Bruce Morrow. Most thing,

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Speaker 1: most people think my name is Bruce Cousins. You see,

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Speaker 1: they think my last name is Cousin. Uh No, it's

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Speaker 1: but it's Bruce Morrow. I got my name actually. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I was on W Y and S in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Were like, here a nice story. It's kind of a

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Speaker 1: fun story. It's it's fun. Uh. So I'm in the

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Speaker 1: studio and uh security guarden. Those days we were allowed

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Speaker 1: to have people come up. We didn't think they were

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Speaker 1: gonna come inteer the radio station. So so he brings

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Speaker 1: in this a little silver haired lady. She walks and

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Speaker 1: he says, Mr Tomorrow, is this all right? To bring

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Speaker 1: her in? I said this, pre cousin Brucy, and uh,

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Speaker 1: I said, please bring her in. I love people. I

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Speaker 1: like people. She owed me open the door and it's

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Speaker 1: little silver haired, twinkly eyed lady walks in. She locks

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Speaker 1: on my eyes immediately, Bob cousin, Bob, if i'm me,

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Speaker 1: when somebody locks on eyes like I'm doing to yours

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Speaker 1: right now, whether we're we're on the screen, um, they

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Speaker 1: get you. That's the big secret of life. When you

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Speaker 1: want to talk to somebody, you want something luck on

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Speaker 1: their eyes, not they knows, not them. I'll hit the

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Speaker 1: eyes immediately. So she locks on my eyes and she

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Speaker 1: says to me, quote, excuse me, uh, sir. And I

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Speaker 1: knew she didn't know who I was. She wasn't sitting

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Speaker 1: hearing Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis or anybody else. She

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Speaker 1: said to me, do you believe her overlated? And I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Brooklyn kid, so I know somebody's after something. Money, money, money, money,

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Speaker 1: So I said, yes, I do believe her overlated. And

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Speaker 1: I do believe that Bob all right somewhere along the line,

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Speaker 1: and she said, well, listen, I'm broke. And I said,

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Speaker 1: hold on one second, man, and I queue up my record.

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Speaker 1: And those days we played these little black things with

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Speaker 1: holes in them, and I used to queue up a record.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have any digital starts or anything. And I

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Speaker 1: said okay. She said, well, cousin, i'm broke. Let me

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Speaker 1: fifty cents to get home. And I looked at her

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Speaker 1: and she had these smiling eyes, and I said, sure,

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Speaker 1: I gave a fifty cents, right, And she said, thanks, cousin,

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Speaker 1: talk to you. She leaves. I never see her again

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Speaker 1: that night in the Brooklyn Battery tunnel. I lived in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: and those days I was on the way home, and

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Speaker 1: in the middle of that tunnel I hear cousin, cousin,

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Speaker 1: cousin brucie. That's it. I got it. I got my stick,

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Speaker 1: I got my handle. The next morning, I go in

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Speaker 1: and I speak to the program director, and he says,

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Speaker 1: are you crazy? You can't goin to the cousin bruci

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Speaker 1: There is the big apple man. This is New York City.

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Speaker 1: This is not Fargo, this is not Morgantown, West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: This is New York City. Forget it, I said, sir,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you something. When you were a kid

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Speaker 1: not so long ago, I was small enough to say

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Speaker 1: Who did you like to go to Didn't you like

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Speaker 1: to go to your homes of your cousins. They had

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Speaker 1: I went on the air. I don't think there was

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, get your posterior midsection in here, quick,

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Speaker 1: I called my father. Now, I've never been fired. I

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Speaker 1: was a street smart guy, grew up in East New York,

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Speaker 1: and uh, we're going together and Leeds says to me,

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Speaker 1: sit over the airpirs and I'm scared stiff. My father says,

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Speaker 1: next his desk and says, well, what's the problem. He said,

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Speaker 1: I told your son not to overdo it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. He didn't stop last night. The cousin.

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Speaker 1: I said, well, is that okay? He says, I want

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Speaker 1: It wasn't funny at that. He opens his desk raw

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Speaker 1: and he pulls out hundreds of yellow envelopes, hundreds, and

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Speaker 1: these yellow envelopes were precursor to the email crieze, right,

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Speaker 1: They were called Western Union telegrams. He received hundreds of

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Speaker 1: Western Union telegrams wanting cousin Brucy. So my father smartly says, well,

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? Says I told him about too.

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Speaker 1: I'm firing him on the spot. So my father looks

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Speaker 1: on a seven year contract immediately. Cousin, cousin bry That's

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Speaker 1: a long story, but Cousin Brucy was born Bob. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's okay. You are such a character. You know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people they're on mike or they're on stage,

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Speaker 1: personality is totally different. But we got on and you

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Speaker 1: were immediately Cousin Brucy. No, there is no you know,

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Speaker 1: can I tell you something? Maybe I shouldn't say this,

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Speaker 1: you can. You're gonna tell everybody. I'm told that. You

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Speaker 1: you tell what you want to tell, which is good,

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Speaker 1: so do I There was no cousin Brucey. It's Bruce.

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Speaker 1: It's Bruce, Bruce Morrow. Bruce Morrow is cousin Bruci. There

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Speaker 1: is no comic character. It's me. What can I tell you?

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Speaker 1: I sleep this way, I talk of my sleep this way.

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Speaker 1: I go to the bathroom this way, I take showers,

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Speaker 1: I get up and I'm me. Now. Am I unhappy

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Speaker 1: at times? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I'm just like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: I have my moments, but generally I'm a pretty happy camper.

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Speaker 1: I love life, and Bob, I love what I am doing.

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Speaker 1: Underline bold underline, I love what I'm doing. I'm happy. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So you grew up in Brooklyn? Yes? What I hesitated? Yes? Okay?

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Speaker 1: And were your parents were they born in America? Yes?

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Speaker 1: My parents were born in America. My grandparents one was

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Speaker 1: and my grandma was Russian. My parents were both born here. Yes.

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Speaker 1: And what did your parents or your do for a living? Well?

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Speaker 1: My father, uh stole automobile caps, caps and my dad

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Speaker 1: And my mother was a Brooklyn housewife, took care of

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Speaker 1: And then how many kids in the family, my brother

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Speaker 1: and myself, And which one is older? Well, I'm younger,

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Speaker 1: out out. I said, I'm younger, but he's younger. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I got it, now, I got I have heard it first.

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Speaker 1: What what does his life look like? Well, Bobby was

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Speaker 1: in marketing. My brother, Bob's in marketing. He's I guess

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Speaker 1: SMI tired. Now he's down in Florida. See, I don't

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Speaker 1: have the word retired him of my vocabulary. I refuse.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the what I call the R word.

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Speaker 1: I believe, as long as you have energy and you

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Speaker 1: you should do it. You should do it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you can't get out of bed, you are having

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Speaker 1: a problem. That's another story. But I speak to people

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Speaker 1: weren't there moments though, when you were not on the

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Speaker 1: I really hadn't. I said, I know your story, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I know I know Bob Sherman, a friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: well I was never really through not being in front

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Speaker 1: he fly me to different my different radio stations with Bob,

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Speaker 1: They enjoy you know, saying hey, how you doing, price

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Speaker 1: So I used to fly to different markets almost every day.

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Speaker 1: I did that for about seven years. We we guarded

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Speaker 1: about well seven major radio stations. It became any more

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Speaker 1: and they'd make exchooses. Why I caught him making a mistake,

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Speaker 1: and I'd say, no, listen, don't try to bowld me.

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Speaker 1: I invented what you're telling me. Don't tell me, don't

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Speaker 1: tell me that that's my story. I invent that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So that is what I want you to do. I

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Speaker 1: But Lord help you if you do it again, I

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Speaker 1: want you to correct your mistakes. So I became a

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Speaker 1: said to me, you know, Bruce, because it's time to

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Speaker 1: college because I wanted to go out. I wanted to

421
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: go on the stage. I wanted to study a little

422
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 1: more acting. I still had the acting bug and I

423
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: wanted to go on radio because I had that bug too.

424
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: But they convinced me that college would be the right

425
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: way to go. So I remember I was the recipient

426
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: of a beautiful two door Uh. It was a Ford

427
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: at two door Ford and it was green and white

428
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: cream topped. It was a beautiful car. How did I

429
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: am radio? It was brand new Oh yeah, Oh, that's

430
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: quite an attentive Mario was. My parents were really great.

431
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean that was an expensive carmer those days. Probably course,

432
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: at least three dollars, I don't know, Probably more like, okay,

433
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: so you start school where college? College? Now you're gonna

434
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: embarrass me. See, you know you are a very smart,

435
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: shy guy. You sly guy. I know what you're doing here,

436
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: all right? I went me you, I know what you're doing.

437
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: I went to Brooklyn College, right. I lasted there for

438
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: six months. You're gonna embarrass me now, but I'm gonna now,

439
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in it. I gotta tell him. I went

440
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: to Brooking College for six months. For some reason, I

441
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: couldn't find the classes. Yeah, they kept moving the classes.

442
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: So I I left obviously, or maybe I was requested

443
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: to leave. I don't know. It was maybe a combination

444
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: that too, Bob cousin Bob Um. I started talking to

445
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: people who went to New York University, and it sounded good.

446
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: It sounds like I wanted to do something there. So

447
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: I enrolled at n y U. And what was there

448
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: In the first year. I decided they needed a radio

449
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: station and then we didn't have when we had a

450
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: radio club, you know, was held at an Arizat studio

451
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: and we had a microphone and uh a little control

452
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: room and we practiced radio. But it wasn't going anywhere

453
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: but into somebody's web corps or something or wire recorder

454
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: in those days. So I decided I was gonna go

455
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: this is this is typical me. Now, I was gonna

456
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: go see a dean. I looked up to dean, my dean,

457
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: and uh, I was gonna go ask him to get

458
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: me a radio station for the college. We needed a

459
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: radio station. It really was important part of the community.

460
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: So it was snowing. It was a bad snowy, nasty day,

461
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: muddy snow, slush, and I tripped into the dean's office

462
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: with my gloshes. Now, in those days, Bobby probably remember,

463
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: we used to wear these over shoes called galoshes. Terrible.

464
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, forget it. So I went in

465
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: and I didn't take my glashes off, and I brought

466
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: in a lot of slush with me. He looked down

467
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: at his beautiful new carpet, and I knew right away

468
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: he looked back at me once again the eyes he

469
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: was not happy. He says, what can I do? For you,

470
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: Mr Morrow, And I said, well, sir, I want to

471
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: build a radio station. We need a radio station, the

472
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: community needs one, the college needs one. So he looked

473
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: at me and said, you know what, I think it's

474
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: a good idea. I'm gonna get you twenty eight dollars.

475
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: Get out. Literally, he didn't want me. I'm I messed

476
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: up his office. He gave me eventually twenty eight dollars

477
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: to professor my professors. I went and board wire. I

478
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: bought a used Dina box phonograph, and we had a microphone,

479
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and I formed the club of people who really wanted

480
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: to be on the radio. I took the wire from

481
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: the back of the console, dropped it four stories out

482
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: of window, and I connected it with solder to the

483
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: back of two radios in a lounge in the green

484
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: room down there upstairs. We had microphone and a Dina box.

485
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: I went over to London Records at r C A,

486
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: and I begged them for their catalogs. I had, you know,

487
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Cosmo music, and I had Semi pop music, had all that. Well,

488
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: we started doing shows. We did news, we did music,

489
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: and it went to the fourth four stories below the

490
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: two radios. But we were on the air. That's how

491
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: it started. That's my career. That's how the career started.

492
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: I knew that to really gets this out of me. Okay.

493
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: And then was at the extent of the radio station

494
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: during your whole college career or did they ultimately get

495
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: it over the year broadcast? Yeah they did, they did.

496
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: Uh what was it called carry a current? I think

497
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: they did carry according after a while. Yeah, carry accurrent

498
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: is not really over the year. We never had a transmitter,

499
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: so to speak, but we somehow the technicians we now,

500
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: we hired a technician. He the UH cabled us into

501
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: the electrical circus throughout the college, and the electrical circus

502
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: carried this UH the signal. So we were on the air.

503
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: I saw it selling time to local sponsors. I got

504
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of records. We had newscasters, I mean a group.

505
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: I had a radio station and it worked. And today

506
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: that radio station uh w n y U FM is

507
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: on the air and gets all kinds of awards. Yeah. Absolutely, okay,

508
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: So what do you study in college? Uh? I studied

509
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: UH radio I UH. I very rarely went to class.

510
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: The My professor's all excuse me, because they knew what

511
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: I was doing. And everybody wanted a radio station. Albeit

512
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: even though it was only two speakers at the time,

513
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: I was kind of excused. So my college career was

514
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: really building that radio station. But I learned finance, I

515
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: learned history, I learned geography, I learned sociology, I learned psychology.

516
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: I had the best, the best education of my life.

517
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: My parents paid a lot of money for that education,

518
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: but it was well worth while. Right but you, but

519
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: you did graduate, you did get a degree. O start

520
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: somewhere behind me and something. In fact, I even have

521
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: a a an honorary degree. I have a pH d.

522
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's Dr Cousin Bruce. You know. No, I'm

523
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: very proud that I graduated, n y U. It was

524
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: tough at times. It was tough of times because my

525
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: head was always outside the classroom wanting to do things.

526
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: But I did it. I graduated, and uh, I'm very

527
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: proud of that, very proud of n Yu. You graduated.

528
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: What was the next step in your career? Well, when

529
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: I graduated, I sent out demo tapes or if you

530
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: remember those days. But we didn't have uh, you know,

531
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: we didn't have the Internet or anything. We had to

532
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: send tapes out. So I uh, sent out eight tapes

533
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: under the under the supervision of my professor's Professor Falk,

534
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: Professor Emerson. Funny while I'm talking, I remembering names here,

535
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: And I sent these tapes out to different radio stations. Now,

536
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I've always, Bob, I've always wanted to be a warm climate.

537
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't like being cold, and I don't like being

538
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't like to this day. And so I sent

539
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: them out to warm climates, which is a very bad

540
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: thing to do because you're really narrowing the pickings. So

541
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: out of about eight tapes, I got four or five

542
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: back that said, kid, you're very very nice going to

543
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: your father's business. All right, forget it. And a couple

544
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: of them came back very positively. One was in Panama City, Florida.

545
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: Perfect nice weather, you know, a little cool once in

546
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: a while, nice weather. And one day the owner of

547
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: the radio station called, and once again, my dad was

548
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: standing by Dad and he's on the phone. I'm on

549
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: the other phone, and uh, he gets on him. Yes,

550
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: he said, this is Mrs so and so of whatever

551
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: the radio station was, and still there by the way,

552
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Panama City, Florida. We'd like to offer your son a job.

553
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: So my father answered, I was like throat stopped, and

554
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, well, what's the job. Well, we'd like

555
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: to give him a job, and uh, he'd work in

556
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: both our businesses. My father said, really, what both businesses? Well,

557
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: he said he was very cagy the guy. He said,

558
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: he'd been on the air for about four hours. He'll

559
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: do a two hour show and then he'll go out

560
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: and sell for two hours out small stations. Right, we'll

561
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: pay him eighty five dollars a week, and we'll help

562
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: him get settled and everything. Eighty five a week. And

563
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: then my father knew something was wrong and he said, okay,

564
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: that sounds all right for this time, because he was

565
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: going to supplement myself. I'll read what's the other business?

566
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: My father very shrewd once again, so the older of

567
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: the stations as well, Mrmorrow, we also own a car wash.

568
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: What are you laughing at? That's serious stuff. Listen, how

569
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: would you like that? He said, he'll work four hours

570
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: in our car wash. Now, my dad and I looked

571
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: at each other and we said, no, no, I wasn't

572
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: gonna carry eight hundred towels down to Florida. So we

573
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: turned that one down. About a week later, I received

574
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: a call from I guess the station of my dreams,

575
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: z B M, or as we say, z B M

576
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: z B M in Bermuda. Down in Bermuda Paradise for

577
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: two I met my loved one deep in the Blue

578
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: remember that song? Alright, anyway you do not recognize all right?

579
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: I go down to Bermuda, and I really had my

580
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: education there, Bob. This is where I learned radio. You know,

581
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: you can stay in college and high school and read

582
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: books and go to a broadcast school all your life,

583
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: but until you're on the professionally, until you're on that

584
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: radio and doing it and you feel that feeling in

585
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: your belly and you're so scared, right because it's so new,

586
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: you don't know what to do. That's when the education began.

587
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: So one year and a little bit of a couple

588
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: of months in Bermuda and I did everything from well,

589
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: I I brought rock and roll music down to that

590
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: quiet island. They used to call me the Hammer. By

591
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: the way, I still have listeners down there that right

592
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: to me. Email me. They love it, uh, that hammer

593
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: because they never heard anybody speak with the cacophony of

594
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: the music that we were playing. Suddenly they were hearing

595
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Fats Domino and Elvis Presley and the Everly Brothers, and

596
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: yet that whole thing drifters, and they were getting a

597
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: whole new beat this once quiet Calypsonian Island, and the

598
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Hammer was on the radio with him. I did shows,

599
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: I did stage shows. I started a show called The

600
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: Search Party. That's where I got in trouble. I mixed

601
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: black and white audience once again. I love my audience.

602
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I was dead, so I was really wanting to have

603
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: an audience in front of me, even in those days.

604
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: I knew it. And they didn't like this too much.

605
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: They didn't like the idea of mixing audiences. So at

606
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: night I used to get threatening. When I was on

607
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: the radio, I used to get threatening phone calls. It

608
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: got so bad. And this is the old days of

609
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: the Beater's not today that things have changed. I used

610
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: to walk home with a lead pipe at the ready

611
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: in my pocket, real big pipe, and I used to

612
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: put it under my shirt because and every time a

613
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: palm tree would sway, I jumped ten feet in the

614
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: air getting ready for something. So they threatened me right

615
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: until I got home, and I used to get into

616
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: my little bed that I paid. I think, uh, ninety

617
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: dollars a month. I was on the eve of on

618
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: the eve of a roof, and if I got up,

619
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: I'd smashed my head on it. But I gotta tell

620
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: you some that was probably the most important poignant part

621
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: of my education, my radio education. I left there, go

622
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: away before you go there? Yeah, what's what's happening with

623
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: you in romance along the road here? What? Wait a minute?

624
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm not gonna talk about that. You gotta

625
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: we only get me in trouble. I can't. I can't

626
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: afford a divorce this year. No, I guess uh I

627
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: did you have dates in high school? In college? Did

628
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: you have relationships? Sure? Oh, absolutely had a lot of girlfriends.

629
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about one specific one in Bermuda.

630
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: It was that I had my research. Does not go

631
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: that day, Thank goodness. Hold on a second, okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

632
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: of course you did have one specific person in Bermuda.

633
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: You were not homesick, well, I was homesick. I was homesick,

634
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: but there were times it was not homesick because we

635
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: were making nice. We had a good time. My uh

636
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: my two door forward, which I had pre Bermuda, was

637
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: now being used for another kind of education. I didn't

638
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: know there was a back seat there. Okay, but you

639
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: took the Ford to Bermuda too, No, no, no, I said,

640
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: I used the Ford pre Bermuda for you talking about girlfriend. Okay,

641
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: so that how do you get out of Bermuda. Well,

642
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: that's kind of a story that twenty century Fox bought

643
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: in my book, right, and that was that could have

644
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: that was almost a movie. Uh. There was a church

645
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: in Bermuda outside of Hamilton's that burned down, and this

646
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: church was in dire needs of funds they had to rebuild.

647
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: So I decided very wisely, I think to this day,

648
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: to hold a big record hop and a dance at

649
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: a huge hall in Hamilton's harbor. So we hired this

650
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: hard It could have held thousands of people. And uh,

651
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: I was going to raise money to read help rebuild

652
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: the church, which I did. I raised some funds. Um

653
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: after this was over, I was invited to leave. I

654
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: was invited to leave Bermuda. Now once again, I love

655
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: Bermuda and I've been back a couple of times since.

656
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: At this time, Bermuda was kind of living in a

657
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: different world. They weren't in today's world. They really didn't.

658
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: I think if you weren't uh British Anglo Protestant Um,

659
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: you were not acceptable. They had a lot of different

660
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: laws which have changed, you know. So I was right

661
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: there in the middle of all this stuff. So, as

662
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: I said, I got a letter and I suggested that

663
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: I leave. Okay, let's let's let's let's hold back for

664
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: a second. To what degree if you encountered anti Semitism

665
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: in your career, very little to none. Honestly, No, I've

666
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: discovered I've encountered anti humanism many times. I've never had

667
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: the unhappiness of anti Semitism or anti anything. The only

668
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: anti I really had was in Bermuda. That was just

669
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: not nice. It wasn't right. Okay. So if you were

670
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: raising money for the church, what was their problem with you? Well,

671
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: I was helping a black church. It was a black church. See,

672
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: that's what happened. So they were invited to leave. Yeah,

673
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: I started to leave, and I accepted it. I left,

674
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: and uh I went home and I got a job

675
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: in Miami. I probably had another job before that. I know,

676
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: it's getting a little kind of mushy now. Uh, I

677
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: get a job in Miami and I go to w

678
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: Y n Z in Miami, broadcasting from high you top

679
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: the beautiful Biscaine Bay, overlooking beautiful, beautiful Florida. So I

680
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: was in the there for W Y and Z for

681
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: about a year. One day I'm walking on Biscaye Boulevard

682
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: out here speak about things that you never forget. I

683
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: suddenly see Santa Claus under a palm tree. It's not

684
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: in December Christmas time, wearing Bermuda shorts and a T shirt.

685
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: And I said, boy, you're out of here. That was

686
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: I got enough see Santa Claus and shorts, you know.

687
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: So it was time to leave, and I left in

688
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: the I got jobs, So I got his producers jobs,

689
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: and I went to W I and S in New York.

690
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: When you how long were you off the air from

691
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: Remuta to your next job? Maybe three months? Pretty quick.

692
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: Do you ever think it might not work? No? I

693
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: never did. I always had. You know, I'm very lucky.

694
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: I have great faith in me. I believe in what

695
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: I do, and I ain't a feard. I'm not afraid.

696
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a scaredy kid. I'm a Brooklyn kid. Nothing

697
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: scares me. Okay, So when you leave Miami, do you

698
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: continue to stay on the air or there are times

699
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: when you're behind the mic, behind the MICU of the

700
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: first jobs, I was at Mutual Broadcasting as a producer

701
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: and then Fate stepped in. This you're gonna like, I

702
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: am hired a w Y and as my dad parents.

703
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: My mother had a friend who was parents parents of

704
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: a young lady who worked at w I and S.

705
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: In those days, w Y and S was music. It

706
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: wasn't an old talk or all news stations. So they

707
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: hired me as a producer. Once again, Fate here it

708
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: is mom Ba bamb Homema bam home. Fate steps in.

709
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: There's a strike after calls a strike. Now what happens

710
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: when there's a strike, all of the on air personalities leave,

711
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: They go out and they pick it or they just

712
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: leave and uh. Then the other unions like what was it?

713
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: Navid was something? I believe it was NAVID, the engineering unit.

714
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: They could not cross the picket line, so we were

715
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: without operating personnel. So what are you do? Well, as

716
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: a you know, a broadcaster, you do what comes dentually.

717
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: You get everybody that works for you that's non union

718
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: and you put them on the air and all the

719
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: ancelory jobs that's what you do. So they knew I

720
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: had experience. They put me on the air. Okay, but

721
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: did your the people broadcasting were on strike. Did they

722
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: see you as a scab or did they excell Let's

723
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: put it this way. At first, well I was that's

724
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: after the fact. But I went on the air, So

725
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: just no preceding. That went on the air, and I

726
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: stayed on the air for quite some time. Cousin Brusci

727
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: was born on the air. That's what happened. My enthusiasm,

728
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: my energy was now developing, and they kept me on

729
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: the air. Now, when the strike ended, they gave me

730
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: a contract. I stayed on the air. I went on

731
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: the air. Uh. The union members, well, at first they

732
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: were kind of cold, I remember, but after a while

733
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: they warmed up. I'm a very kissy, huggy guy, and

734
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: they saw the young guy, young kid. Right, I wasn't

735
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: doing anything wrong. I was doing what I was instructed

736
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: to by executives. So I had no choice either that

737
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: or I was gonna be fired. So one on the year.

738
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: So after a while they warmed up to me. Right.

739
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: How long was the strike, Oh, I don't know. It

740
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: was a pretty good one. It was a pretty long strike.

741
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't years or anything. I think several months. Okay,

742
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: so what year are we in? All right, now, you're

743
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to use your research. I really, my research

744
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: is my whole life. But it's obviously pre w ABC. Wait, okay,

745
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: let me let me switch it a little bit. Because

746
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: something you've mentioned, you have a love for being performing,

747
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: You liked the connection with your audience. To what degree

748
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: was the music important to you at that time? Absolutely everything?

749
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: The music I believe was my connection. The music was

750
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: in my absolute absolute bridge to that audi. It's I

751
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: was playing that music and I sounded like that music

752
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: because I learned how to sound like that music from

753
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: Alan Freed, who was my mentor back in the old days.

754
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: Alan Freed probably the granddaddy of Top forty and rock

755
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: and roll radio when I was a kid, when I

756
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: was in high school, I used to go once in

757
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: a while up to w y and S where he

758
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: was on. Came out of Cleveland and came to Wyns.

759
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: Pressed my nose against the glass, and one day he

760
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: noticed me because I came up pretty often, and he

761
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: signaled me to come in with his hand, come on in,

762
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: and he went in. He says, kid, you like this?

763
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: I said, yes, sir. He says, don't do it going

764
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: to your father's business. It's boring, boring, and you know something,

765
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: Thank god I didn't listen to him, right. I was

766
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: so enamored because this man sounded like rock and roll,

767
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: but I sounded like it. And the music, to answer

768
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: your question, was the entire absolute bridge to where I

769
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: am today. Okay, Now, Alan Freed ultimately went up the

770
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: river as a result of Paola. To what degree did

771
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: Payola permeate the business? This back then completely? But fortunately

772
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: for me, I was a kid. I took Payola once

773
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna admit it to you know, you're gonna

774
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: be shocked. Are you ready for this? All? Right? I

775
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: accepted a cherry and an apple pie from somebody once

776
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: he came up. This man who was a record promoter,

777
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: offered me, wanted me to play one of his new records,

778
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: and I he knew I could get it past and

779
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: the music meeting, and uh, he gave me a cherry

780
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: pie and an apple pie. I didn't know it was Payola.

781
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: It was pie Ola. I don't know what the heck

782
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: it was. They were very good pies. I witnessed those

783
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: days of payola, program directors, music directors, getting television sets,

784
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: cases of booze cars. I mean there was one guy

785
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: and even had a wedding. Uh, an amazing thing happened.

786
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I was so young. Nobody really

787
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: ever approached me. I could have, I could have probably

788
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: followed it, but I never did. I just told you

789
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: that apple pie and cherry pie. That was okay. So

790
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: how long were you all? You went directly from w

791
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: I n S ten ten wins to w ABC. Correct? Uh, yeah,

792
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: I think you know, I think that's pretty right. I

793
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: think how long were you at ten ten wins before

794
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: you went to ABC? And what was that transition about? What?

795
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: It was? Two years? Two years at w I n S.

796
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: It ended kind of unhappily. There was a DJ named

797
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: Murray the K and Murray wanted my hours. And I

798
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: was a young guy. I didn't know how to protect myself.

799
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: I was still you know, my early early twenties, and uh,

800
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: Murray was a season veteran and he wanted those hours.

801
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: And you're talking about quantity or specific time time, which

802
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: was when oh I was on from uh, I think

803
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: ten to midnight in those days. Why did he want

804
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: those hours because he was on at night later and

805
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: he wanted the extra hours, So we wanted the hours,

806
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: and he was very friendly with the sales manager and

807
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: then they made a deal. So I was put on

808
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: a different time and eventually I left, but I was

809
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: I was really forced forced out. So murray, Uh it was.

810
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: It was not a happy moment in my life. And eventually, unfortunately,

811
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: uh it came to pass whereby he paid the piper

812
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: for that, paid the piper with his with his life.

813
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: Nothing to do with me, But that's another story he developed. Yeah,

814
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: he got very sick, right, But staying with you, how

815
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: did you did you quit? Iron asked? Or you were

816
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: you recruited by ABC? Or do you look for another job?

817
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: How did that transition happen? You know, I just want

818
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: to think. I don't think I was let go. I

819
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: looked for another job. I looked for another job and

820
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: at the time, but see none I went. I'm pretty

821
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: sure I went to W Y and Z before I went. Yeah,

822
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that. You know what. There's so much

823
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: going on with my chronology. It's like word but as

824
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: you're talking and sort of lights up a pinball, A

825
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: little glimmer. Um, I got a job from Wins and

826
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: Wins in Miami, Florida. That's where I went. So I

827
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: went out of Florida. I was pretty I was known

828
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: by that in Florida because New Yorkers, you know a

829
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: lot of New Yorkers are there, right, and that's how

830
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: they advertise it. So a guy named Rex rand Oldness

831
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: radio station w Y and C. I think this is

832
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: where this came in because we talked about this came

833
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: terrorists before and I went down there and I spent

834
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: that year. That's where this happened. While I was down

835
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: there that year, I was recruited for w ABC. That's

836
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: when they were starting out to look and see what

837
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: they wanted to do. They were becoming they were the

838
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: seven Swinging Gentleman that they became the All Americans. And

839
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: I got the job there. I got the job. There

840
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: was Rick Sklar already the program director. Yes she was.

841
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: Rick was my program director. I think what I got there.

842
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: There was a guy leaving in transition, but Rick was

843
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: my program director and uh he called me into his

844
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: office one day and uh, I was on the air

845
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: and he goes into his draw and he pulls out

846
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: a folder when these vanilla folders and the en folder

847
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: was a star. And he said to me, Bruce, this

848
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: is Rick Slane. This is your star. This is you

849
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: from now on, and he gave me the break. I

850
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: went on the air seven to ten. Okay, and so

851
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: immediately you were at seven to ten. Let's see, right,

852
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: how long after you went on ABC did the Beatles break?

853
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Oh many years after, because I think I'd say two

854
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: to three years later. I was starting to get records,

855
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: uh from England with them before they broke, you know,

856
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: with Swan Records VJ. And we bring him to music

857
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: meetings and we all said, well, tell a bunch of Brits,

858
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: make him believe that the Everly Brothers and Chuck Bury

859
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: we were very, very genius as we turned them down

860
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: right until we started noticing a lot of things happening

861
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: in Europe, Riots and what was going on with the Beatles.

862
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: They were growing popularity until eventually they were ready to

863
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: come over here and I get very involved with them.

864
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: I introduced them at Chase Stadium with wall wa wa wa,

865
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: this is what I want to hear. So let's slow

866
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: down a little bit. When the Beatles break in sixty four,

867
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: do you immediately, when do you sense that this is

868
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: something different? This is just not another act and other

869
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: than the Beach Boys in the Four Seasons, pretty much

870
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna wipe everybody else off the radio. Kind of a

871
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: fun story. First of all, it took a little time.

872
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: Uh it was another great group and they were making

873
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: a lot of noise in Europe, and nothing really happened

874
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: till that become part of market one. Well we find

875
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: out they're gonna be coming over here, and uh uh

876
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: we started playing Beatle records. I remember the very first

877
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: Beatle record I got. I mean officially, because I had

878
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: other ones that were non official. We s get bootleg records,

879
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: of course, but officially, I gotta want to hold your head.

880
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: That was delivered to me by an armed security guard

881
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: with a promotion man with him. He had an ant

882
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: this is true, this great story. He had a had

883
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: to shade case, handcuffed to his right wrist. I always

884
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: remember the right wrist, right wrist. And the promotion man

885
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: who escorted the security guard said, you can't have what's

886
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: in there. That's a record, the first Beatle record for

887
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: you exclusively until nine o'clock. I don't know what the

888
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: nine o'clock was But then I realized at nine o'clock

889
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: he hands me the record. Mob. I played that record

890
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: eight times that night. Now here's what happened at nine

891
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: o'clock on AM radio. The atmosphere that the signal bounces

892
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: off reaches pretty high, and by the time it bounces back,

893
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm reaching over forty states. That's why I got my

894
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 1: national limits. While that record is on about a hundred

895
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: and someone around radio stations AM radio stations all over

896
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: the country are copying recording the song that I'm playing.

897
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: That was my eclusive. They knew exactly what they were doing,

898
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: so huh. The next day, being a pretty good businessman, right,

899
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: I developed a thing called blocking out the sound. I

900
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: recorded something called because of Brucie Exclusive Exclusive. Every ten seconds,

901
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: I would play that thing on the air, destroying the record.

902
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: Nobody can copy anymore on my records Exclusive Exclusive Brusie Exclusive.

903
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 1: And uh, that was the end of the Beatle battle

904
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: of the broadcast airways. That stopped that for a while.

905
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: They grew tremendously in uh popularity. Give you a good example,

906
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: and this is I'm gonna this is not made up.

907
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: This is pretty close. Little Joey from the Bronx would

908
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: call me two weeks before the Beatles came to New

909
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: York and Joey would say, hey, Brucie, Hey man, we're

910
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: digging your show because we really like it. When you

911
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: play a record for me, my girl the name of Susie.

912
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: Play somebody every brothers. Two weeks after the Beatles come

913
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: listen this same kid. Hello, is this so Brucie, This

914
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: is suburb of bronx Shire on the Grand Course Shire.

915
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: Would you play a record for me and me bird?

916
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: Her name is Lady Suzanne. Now what I'm trying to

917
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: say here is that everybody became an anglophile. People started

918
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: developing the accents. They talked to me. Everyone was a

919
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: brit They dress, they look, they get quaffed, they dye

920
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: their hair, they do everything. And everybody was aware of

921
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: the mother country. That's what the Beatles did. So the

922
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: Beatles when they came over, not only gave us music

923
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: at that time, but they also gave us language, dress

924
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: and how we behaved ourselves. Everybody was suddenly speaking with

925
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: clip tongue. They also thought with king author. So what

926
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: was your relationship with Brian Epstein? And also the four

927
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: individual Beatles who all had a great relationship with them.

928
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: Brian just to call me every once in a while

929
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: we'd have a nice talk. But the Beatles I I

930
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: really got involved with. I met them at UH at

931
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: idle Wild Airport that became JFK. We were there at

932
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: that first press conference, which was kind of that was

933
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: a little rough. The press corps was not nice to them.

934
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: They were the boys were a little snippy, but the

935
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: press corps was kind of out to get him because

936
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, the press represented mom and dad. There was

937
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: not nobody cared about the kids. There was no youth market,

938
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: so to speak at this time. UH. Then they came

939
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: up there with me. There's a very famous picture of

940
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: me with the boys broadcasting at W A Beatles c

941
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Bob w A Beatles see right Chime Time, which I'm

942
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: still doing today by the way, which is really makes

943
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: me very happy. So I got involved with him many

944
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: times at UH where they were staying in hotels and

945
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: I saw some wild, wild things, those hells out. I

946
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: used to broadcast their arrival, say to a Warwick hotel

947
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: and uh Rick Sklar was our program director who has

948
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: a book called UH Rocket in America. I think it's

949
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: called good Book and has a story about that, and

950
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: my books have this story too. He held me out

951
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: by the seat of my pants. We didn't have any

952
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: real wireless um wireless equipment in those days, so he

953
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 1: held me out by the seat of my pants, my belt.

954
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: If he let go, I would have been a lot

955
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: of trouble. I was on like the eighth floor of

956
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: the of Warwick Hotel and I broadcast I'm arriving. The

957
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: kids five thousand, six thousand supposedly were herded across the

958
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: street sixth Avenue by what is now the Hilton Hotel,

959
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: and they were behind police Marricaye's horses, wooden horses. The

960
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: boys came up the one way street I think fifty

961
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: fourth Street to be Shepherd and immediately into the Warwick

962
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: Hotel when that car came, and I was broadcasting because

963
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: every kid in that audience had the radio tuned to

964
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Duble Do a Beetle c that was that was their news,

965
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: that was their news station. So they said, the boys

966
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: are here. They comes, it's coming up the one way

967
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: and I was. The horses went down across the street,

968
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: the wooden horses. I also saw police horses being knocked

969
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: out of the way by this this delusies Suzami of

970
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,479
Speaker 1: people coming across the street. It was like a tidal wave,

971
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: and they came and they rushed the entrance at Warwick

972
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: Hotel now at the Warwick Hotel. Some of them got

973
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: through and a couple of individuals grabbed the boys used

974
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: to grab their hair, hoping to get a snippet of hair.

975
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: They grabbed shirts, hoping to get a piece of fabric.

976
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: One grabbed He's saying, Christopher's medal. Great story, you want

977
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: to hear a great story. This is this is how

978
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: I got involved. You'll love this. This young girl and

979
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: I'll give you her name in a couple of moments

980
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: because I stole him in touch with her grabbed Ringlar Star.

981
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: But she did. There was an accident, right, It was

982
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: an accident. She grabbed the Saint Christopher's Medal and had it.

983
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: She didn't even know she had it, put in a

984
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: purse or something. About an hour later, Ringo and Paul

985
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: and I think John was there, and I don't remember

986
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: George there. They came in and I said to Ringo

987
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: and this is by the way, Uh, there were this

988
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: film and this and there's a lot of h I

989
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: have audio of this, and I said, ringo, I was

990
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: very nervous. I was very young and very nervous. You know,

991
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: a little insecure would have the beatles in front. I

992
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. I knew we had a

993
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: news story here, and I said, you don't look too good.

994
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: That's what I said to him. Foolish, but it was true.

995
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: He says, I don't feel too good because of Brucy.

996
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: Somebody called me St. Christopher's middle. I said, you kidding?

997
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: You got my auntie gave it to me, and I said,

998
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: stupidly was a real gold. I mean, what a stupid

999
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: thing to say. I mean, I was nervous. Come on,

1000
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was like the moment that on the

1001
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: moment and he says, he, oh, I only wear a

1002
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: real goal causing Brucey. That's how he asked me. He

1003
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: suddenly got is snipping his back, so I said, let

1004
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: me ask you something. If I can get your St.

1005
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: Christomas metal back right away, Bob, the wheels started turning

1006
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: right and you know what I'm gonna say. I said,

1007
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: would you be willing to meet that person to give

1008
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: them a kiss? And you'd hear outside you hear the crowd,

1009
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: thousands of screaming right, And he said, yes, I want

1010
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: that St. Christmas medal back, all documented stuff by the way,

1011
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: And I said, whoever found I took it? Whoever found

1012
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: the St. Christmas mean, you're not in trouble. I want

1013
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: you to call me at this number as soon as

1014
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: I get off the air, and we're gonna make arrangements

1015
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: for you to meet Wringle and get a kiss, and

1016
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna give you a thank you. Well, sure enough,

1017
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: I get off the air and people went wild outside.

1018
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: You hear the audience went crazy. I get a call

1019
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: from Mrs McGowan. I believe Ms McGowan. They lived in

1020
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: the Bronx. That's the mother of a child. The child's name,

1021
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: the young lady's name was Angela mcgewan. Angela and I

1022
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: still talk once in a while, and I think she

1023
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: lives down south somewhere. Well, mother said, uh, my daughter,

1024
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: is she in any trouble? I said no, Mrs McGowan,

1025
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: and this said, she didn't become a hero overnight. Uh,

1026
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: this is what I want you to do. I got

1027
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: ahold of Rick's carr. We got a suite of rooms

1028
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: at the hotel across street, away from away from uh

1029
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, the Warwick And he said, I want you

1030
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: to bring Angie there and she can bring a couple

1031
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: of friends, right or one of them friends and at

1032
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: eight o'clock we're gonna come and get you or whatever

1033
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: the time was. Well, it happened. She got there with

1034
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Angie was scared, so for a couple of friends. They

1035
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: shepherded her over very carefully to uh our eight floor

1036
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: where Ringo came in and Paul and we reunited Angie

1037
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: the St. Christopher's Medal and Ringo star. He talked to

1038
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: her on the air hugg during gave her a kids.

1039
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: She then gave him the Ringo in the St. Christopher's Medal.

1040
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: There's the St. Christmas Medal story, and that really cemented

1041
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: my relationship with him and with Sir Paul. Okay, did

1042
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: they see you primarily as the DJ or were you

1043
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: actually friends with the Beatles? No, I'd I'd say most

1044
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: of us a d J. I don't. I don't think

1045
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: we've ever. I got pretty friendly with John, but you know,

1046
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: I never I don't think we were friends. Friends. I'd

1047
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: say business friends would be more like it. And they

1048
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: were very fond of me. Look I made them a

1049
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: lot of money day, played their music, talked about him constantly.

1050
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: I mean never stopped. I mean you couldn't go anywhere

1051
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: in those days without one of the boys appearing. I

1052
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: remember this is I guess I can say this. I

1053
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: remember going to the bathroom at some hotel and in

1054
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: one of the stalls, right there was pictures of John

1055
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: and Paul right in there. You couldn't go anywhere without

1056
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: a representation of the Beatles. The Beatles arrived, but here

1057
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: was a very important PostScript that I want the audience

1058
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: to know. The Beatles just did not happen right, because

1059
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: the Lord didn't come down and say, my children, I

1060
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: shall be got the Beatles to the right. You've been good.

1061
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm giving you something. No, it happened with a lot

1062
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: of money, a lot of hype, a lot of promotion,

1063
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: a lot of sweat, a lot of guys like me

1064
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: promoting the Beatles. Did we ever think that they were

1065
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: going to become a sociological phenomenon surpassing their music. No, no,

1066
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: we never thought. Nobody was that smart. We were not

1067
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: that smart. I never thought that would happen because by

1068
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: the time I introduced him at Shase Stadium, I'm jumping again, right.

1069
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: I introduced him with with that Sullivan Schase Stadium. The

1070
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: people were there really to be with him. The music

1071
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: was almost secondary because you couldn't hear it anyhow. Okay, now,

1072
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: when the Beatles arrived, there's sort of a fight in

1073
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: New York to own the Beatles. Your nemesis, Marie the

1074
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: Case says he's the fifth Beatle. To what degree were

1075
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: you conscious of the conscious of that and trying to

1076
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: win the Beatle war? Very conscious? Now, First of all,

1077
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: the Beatles never liked this fifth Beatle because the fifth Beatle,

1078
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: thinks spread about four or five other jocks quote in

1079
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: the country. Uh, they adopted that moniker. They never liked that.

1080
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: The Beatle battle was tremendous. We became w a Beatles

1081
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: c We put out cards and prices, and I mean

1082
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: we did everything. We gave away tickets to their concerts,

1083
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: We gave away Beetles, sweaters and mufflers and gloves, anything

1084
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: Beatles we would do. So we were very connizant of

1085
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: the UH and aware of what was happening with the

1086
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: other radio stations. And uh, we were hell bent on

1087
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: winning this one. And I believe we did. And I

1088
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: think well, first of all, the year's size of his

1089
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: radio station, which I was always very proud of, fifty

1090
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: thou watts clear channel and in the other stations in

1091
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: town could not even hold a candle to it. It

1092
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 1: was small. I used to call them tea pots, right,

1093
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: and they were tiny compared to this. So just how

1094
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: sheer power alone gave us the upper hand? No, I

1095
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: just certainly remember because there were three. It was w

1096
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: m c A, w ABC in ten ten wins. I

1097
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: was always an ABC guy. But as you say, winds

1098
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: Win News and then m c A fitted out. We

1099
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: know that radio. In radio, you live and die by

1100
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: the book. The ratings when you went on ABC, how

1101
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: are the ratings? Did the Beatles uh improve your ratings?

1102
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: Personal ratings? And how are your ratings relative to the

1103
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: other jocks? Well, but the ratings on w ABC were

1104
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: always amazing. It took a little while to establish. But well,

1105
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what that there's a statistic comes in

1106
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: my mind. One in four radios were always listening to

1107
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: custom Brucey. Now, if you think of that, you translate

1108
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: that that is cannot be done. It cannot happen. Went

1109
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: on the beach if you want on any beach, Jones Beach,

1110
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: Brighton Beach, Conyana. You remember this if you climbed over bodies.

1111
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Everybody had a radio, and I'd say four out of

1112
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: five radios were listening to w ABC even before the Beatles.

1113
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: Now would answer you a question Beatles came on. Uh,

1114
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: did they improve the ratings? Oh? I mean, I don't

1115
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: know how money the percentage, but tremendous because everybody was

1116
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: listening for a new Beatles record, new Beatles record. I

1117
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: knew we'd have them first. Just because of the size

1118
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: of this station. We got all the exclutions and okay,

1119
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,959
Speaker 1: you were bookended by Dan Ingram and Scott Muni. Did

1120
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: you become the star of the stage? When did you

1121
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: realize you were such a star? Were you the star

1122
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: of the station? And were the other jock's jealous Well,

1123
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, in those days w ABC, it looked like

1124
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: we were one happy family. That was never the case.

1125
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: We were a professional family. We're never a happy family.

1126
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Some of the guys gets to get together with others,

1127
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: but there was always professional jealousy. I never looked at

1128
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: myself as the star of the station, albeit maybe the

1129
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: executives and the salespeople did. Uh. I just did my job.

1130
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: I did my shows, and I love my audience. I

1131
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: never had really time to really think about being a

1132
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: star or you know, getting getting involved. All the television

1133
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: stuff came to me, the newspapers came to me. I

1134
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: did my Palisades Park shows, which gave me a tremendous,

1135
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: tremendous leeway on everybody else. Everybody loved going to Palisades Park.

1136
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: But so you know, Bob, I never really and did

1137
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: this day this. This might sound a little corny in

1138
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: my bath, I don't look at myself as a radio star.

1139
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm cousin Brucie. I'm doing my thing and I'm keeping

1140
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: this audience. And I know they loved me because I

1141
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: love them, right. That's so, That's as far as it goes. Now,

1142
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: if somebody is going to make a marble model that

1143
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: for me, uh and put it in Time Square someday, great,

1144
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: I won't know it. Well, maybe I will, I don't know.

1145
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I will be able to come back. I'll make

1146
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: a deal if I can. I know how to make deals.

1147
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just do my thing, and

1148
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm really not interested in how do you say being

1149
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: a star? Facts? Kind of interesting. Anytime a young person

1150
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: comes to me and I give a lot of advice.

1151
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm an advice guy. I like to help people, right

1152
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: and uh, if one of them says to me, hey,

1153
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: I want to be a recording star, that turns me

1154
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: off right away. I want to become a recording artist.

1155
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: I'll talk with him for an hour. Ep So the word,

1156
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: the word star, I don't know what that means. I

1157
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: think I do my thing. I love it, I have

1158
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: my heart, my soul in it, and to this day

1159
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: I am as excited. Uh. But that, like says Brucey,

1160
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: you're on the air, my little heart pounds and I

1161
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: have that little butterfly on my stomach and I'm so happy.

1162
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: I am happy, to a matter of fact, on the air,

1163
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm back at w ABC. I'm home now. How did

1164
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: that happen? Wow? A complete circle. But I'm so happy

1165
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: this has happened because I have that feeling again. I

1166
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: haven't had that feeling in quite a while, but it's returned.

1167
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: It's good. Let's go back to the sixties. Historically, even

1168
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: to today, radio is not a lucrative profession. So you

1169
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: were on the biggest station. You had a huge audience,

1170
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: how are you doing financially? Very well? Remember you know

1171
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: when you're in this market now, and we were making millions. No,

1172
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: we were making times more than anybody else anywhere in

1173
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: the country. L A does pretty well, maybe a little

1174
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: bit of Chicago, but New York City always was very

1175
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: good to me, and it were good to most of

1176
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: the guys today. Can I skipped today for one minute? Today,

1177
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: Cousin John, who bought this man, who purchased this mega station, this,

1178
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: this all, this of power right, offered me the best

1179
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: contract of my career. So I'm sitting here today saying

1180
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: to my wife Judy, I got the best contract I've

1181
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: ever had. I've always done well. I mean, cousin Bruce

1182
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: is very very happy sold by radio stations. Television stations

1183
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: always made a lot of money with radio. So you're

1184
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: looking at a guy. That's That's why I'm smiling, and

1185
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: I feel good. I can do what I want for

1186
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: any risk of my life. This is out of love.

1187
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: So I was very happy they paid me well. Could

1188
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: they have paid me more? Of course, you always think

1189
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: you're worth more than you get. But I've always been

1190
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: managing very well over my career. I mean when I

1191
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: came back. I guess some bermuda. I decided that day

1192
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: and look that I'm never gonna be I'm never gonna

1193
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: be poor. I'm gonna have money and I'm gonna make

1194
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: it doing what I want to do, being on the

1195
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: radio and it and it worked. So yes, I lived

1196
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,479
Speaker 1: in Connecticut, certainly didn't have a driver's license, and only

1197
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: wished I could go to Palisades Park. How did that

1198
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: come together? That was, I'd say, next to the Beatles

1199
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: introducing with Chase Stadium, probably the most important part of

1200
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: my life. Um, while I was at UH because it

1201
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: was W I and S. That's where it really started.

1202
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: Or the owner, Irving Rosenthal, was very friendly with the

1203
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: owners and the executives of the radio station. And I

1204
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: was on at night and people like you say, I

1205
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: was there, their boy. I was there. Rick gave me

1206
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: a star. I was their star, and he asked them

1207
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: if I can be, you know, covering to Palisades Park

1208
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: and do shows. Well, long story short, I stayed at

1209
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: Palisades Park doing shows, producing them put in it together

1210
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: and him seeing them for over a decade and a half.

1211
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: And that was an important part of my life to

1212
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: this day. I do Palisades Park reunions because the Palisades

1213
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: Park is ingrained in my audience. And no matter where

1214
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: that audience is, they know Palisades Park. They know it.

1215
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: And we used to be there on weekends. Rain storm, thunder,

1216
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: didn't matter, snow. We'd have that show. That show we'd

1217
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: go on and we had every every major star there

1218
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: lip sinking lip syncing records. We couldn't afford to pay

1219
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: people to have a live man, so those days it

1220
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: was socially acceptable to lip sync. So I stayed there

1221
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: for a year and a half and I love it

1222
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: to this day. Well you can list to my shows

1223
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: and you'll always hear somebody saying, Brucie played Palisades Park

1224
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: by Freddie Boom boom cannon. Right course, can you sing

1225
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: the commercial? Can you sing the jingle? Right? Palisades has

1226
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: the fun? Palisades is the place. Come on over, remember

1227
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: that and this one, of course, and say you're some

1228
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: one you're like, take let's see, uh, skip the bother

1229
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,879
Speaker 1: and skip the fuss. Take a public service bus, public

1230
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: service shower is great. Take it right up to the gate,

1231
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: so we said, And people still remember those commercial Palisades

1232
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: as a place we grew up. We all grew up,

1233
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: and I was a babysitter for thousands of young people

1234
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: and adults, and it come over in those sunny Saturdays

1235
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: and Sundays and we'd have one great free show time. Okay,

1236
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: now today's DJs, of course, the classic example being Ryan

1237
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: Seacrest there on the radio. They're doing television because traditionally

1238
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: you're only on the radio for like four hours. In

1239
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: your days at w ABC, you were on the air

1240
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: for four hours, seven to eleven. What was the rest

1241
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: of your day, looking like well, I would do uh appearances.

1242
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: I even taught at New York University for a while.

1243
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: I taught. I always delivered lectures. I'd be invited to schools.

1244
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 1: I'd be invited to people's homes for dinner, for lunch.

1245
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: I'd be invited to bomb Mitzvah's confirmations, baptisms. I became

1246
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: part of a family. And this is what I realized

1247
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: that this is more than just microphone and a guy

1248
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: who was a DJ. I never liked that word just jockey.

1249
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a radio guy. I'm a broadcaster. Um.

1250
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: I realized very early in my career that this was

1251
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: gonna go much further than playing records and giving time

1252
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: and weather. This was gonna become part of family. I

1253
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: was going to become part of people's lives. Okay, So

1254
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: if someone reached out, you would always respond just about um.

1255
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: You know what I always say is ten percent of

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01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 1: the public is certifiably insane, literally should be institutionalized. But

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01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: you never know which ten percent? Do you think percent?

1258
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 1: Maybe I know, no, you're know what I'm talking about.

1259
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: It We've all had bad experiences. So since you were

1260
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: so open, I would assume you occasionally had a bad experience.

1261
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 1: I had to listen. I've been attacked a couple of times,

1262
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, physically, Earth's Earth's let's life threatening. Once there

1263
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: was a woman that decided that I destroyed her life.

1264
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're open to everything, but fortunately for me,

1265
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: hasn't happened too often. This woman decided that I wrecked

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01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: her life. That I was in the windshield of a

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: car every time she opened her refrigerator. I was there.

1268
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean, whoa a little what? Well? One day I'm up.

1269
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: I think it was at NBC d's and have these

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01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: Uh that's when I was in my NBC days. I

1271
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: miss was on that I was on. Uh interesting days.

1272
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 1: He used to have these guided tours at Rock and

1273
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: Fellow Center a NBC. I don't know if you have

1274
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: a one on one of those things, and one day

1275
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: I did you. One day, there's a woman outside the

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01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 1: glass with the scissors, a large, not a little like

1277
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: you know. Cuticle says, it's a large son of a

1278
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: gun turkey carving scissors right, and she's gone with our

1279
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: hands up in the air and using this as threatening

1280
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: and pounding on the glass or needless to say, we

1281
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: had her removed very quickly. That was the first time.

1282
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: The next time I met her again, I was doing

1283
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: a live performance. I'm doing a live performance and at

1284
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: the end of the performance, people come up for autographs.

1285
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: She came running on the stage with a knife, a knife.

1286
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: I literally grabbed her. I'm a pretty pretty big guy,

1287
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: and I have good reflections. I'm a Brooklyn kid, you know,

1288
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 1: bot on the streets. I grabbed her wrist, held him back.

1289
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: Guards came over, We had the police come in. Her

1290
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: mother then came in to talk to me. And I

1291
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: have her name, but I don't even want to mention

1292
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: her name. But I remember that name very well. Let

1293
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: me tell you. That was scary. Uh. The mother promised

1294
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: to have her institutionalized if I didn't press charges. Now

1295
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: I might get a press charges. Sport woman is so sick.

1296
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm in a refrigerator, and maybe I go in a refrigerator,

1297
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 1: but I wasn't in there, so I never heard from

1298
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: her again. The next problem, Oh wait, I'm not dead.

1299
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. I mean, it's not well. Our

1300
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: lives are not easy. People think, oh boy, they make

1301
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: all this money and a corne air for a few

1302
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: hours and play the Beatles and the Everly Brothers and

1303
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: and uh Elvis and they go home. No, I'm in

1304
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: the h local Supermark with my kids. I'm a regular

1305
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: guy and I go out and people always people nine point.

1306
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: I just hey, Bercy, hey, cous hey, Cousin's very nice

1307
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: to be really nice. I'm walking down on the aisle.

1308
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: My kids are on the side of me, looking, you know,

1309
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: to buy things. And suddenly I looked down the aisle

1310
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the aisle and I see a

1311
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: man with a love of jacket, kind of strange looking,

1312
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: big guy. And I see him on zippers jacket and

1313
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: he's walking towards me, and he puts his hand in

1314
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: the side the jacket as if he's gonna grab something.

1315
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: All right, you just pulled back. I said to the kids,

1316
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: leave now, daddy, I leave now. I got where my

1317
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 1: kids quick because the Lord of him and he's walking

1318
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: towards me, and he's walking towards me, and he's reaching

1319
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: and reaching and reaching, and I'm ready to meet my maker.

1320
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: I figured I was gonna finally see the golden microphone

1321
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: in the sky. And he pulls his hand out of

1322
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: his jacket says, hey, can I give your load of

1323
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: grandfrom this? So it's now the damage was done. I

1324
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: don't know what my blood pressure went to. Let me

1325
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: tell you, I was kind of scared. I was kind

1326
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: of scared. So you know, every single day, you know,

1327
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: when you when you're out in public, you never know.

1328
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: You said that ten percent, that's a big percentage. Ten percent.

1329
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 1: You never know what's gonna happen. So am I on guard? Yeah?

1330
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: Part of me is always always waiting for something. I

1331
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: watched my my love is there. But there's that maybe

1332
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: ten percent of me that's looking around for watching for

1333
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 1: that woman again with the scissors. I don't know. So

1334
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 1: it's it's not easy just it's not an easy life.

1335
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: Let's go back to if I somehow got through to you,

1336
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: you would come to my house for dinner if I

1337
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: like you, not only when it comes to your house.

1338
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: I might even do a show from my house. I

1339
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: has to do shows. If I like somebody, we go

1340
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: to somebody's house and they have a black party, people

1341
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 1: would come in and be wild. We do shows in

1342
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: the house. I mean, I would go to everybody's house.

1343
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, that's impossible. We had tens and tens of

1344
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: how many hundreds of thousands of people listening one time,

1345
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: but every once in a while somebody would get to

1346
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: me and I before I befriend them. I still have

1347
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: friends from those days to this day listening to me

1348
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: on my shows today. That's still that's still have my

1349
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: heart and I know them. You know. Look, I love

1350
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: my audience, and there's a guys, you know how many

1351
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: millions are listening, but there's always that little cadre right

1352
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: that have been with me all my life. And when

1353
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: I go to their house for dinner, I go to

1354
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: their weddings, I go to their kids baptisms. Yeah, they're

1355
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: part of my life. And that's when an audience has

1356
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: to be part of your life. Now, going back to

1357
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: the sixties, all young kids teenagers had a transistor radio

1358
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: and I vividly remember doing my homework with my blodder

1359
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: and the transistor right next to me. But the key

1360
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: night was Tuesday when you did the countdown dollar. How

1361
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: did you end up getting the countdown? Well, I guess

1362
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: that program director decided that's where they can look when

1363
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: I was on at night. You know, during the day,

1364
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: during the morning, you had commuters, you had people going

1365
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: to business, you had some of the moms that it

1366
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: then it became mom time, right, and then it became

1367
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: maybe coming back from business time at night that's when

1368
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 1: the kids were listening. So who would a survey A

1369
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: Sylvan that called the Silvan Dollar Survey appealed to. Now

1370
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: these were a little so in the audience of those

1371
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: These are little slips of paper maybe three inches wide

1372
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: by maybe six inches deep right length, and it would

1373
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: say top forty and don't have a picture of the

1374
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: All American of the year, it's what would call and

1375
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: it would have a print out of the top songs

1376
01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: numerically listed in order of how they ranked ranked of

1377
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: that particular week on the back of that particular slip

1378
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: wasn't add uh huh. They never lost a beat. They

1379
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: knew they could sell that because we gave out thousands

1380
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 1: of these things. They were in record stores, supermarkets, anywhere

1381
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: you can. You know, layer lay a bunch of papers down.

1382
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: They were, They were taken and people love them. People

1383
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: love them. I still get them to this day and

1384
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: I love to see them. It was really good. But

1385
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: I got it because they programmed it, because they wanted

1386
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: the teens. I had all the teams. It's so funny

1387
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 1: that morning drive time became the slot because I grew

1388
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: up when, of course evening radio was the key. Now,

1389
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: as the sixties evolved, really things change culturally, things change musically.

1390
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: We have the British invase and then we have the

1391
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco sound. As the sound evolves, are you still

1392
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: a fan of the music, Yes, very very much. I

1393
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: love the music. Uh, the Motown sound, of course, the

1394
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: Brits sound evolved amazingly and I did a lot of

1395
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: television shows for ABC Television and NBC two. I was

1396
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: sent over to UH to England and I did a

1397
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: lot of shows in those days, talking and being with

1398
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:16,520
Speaker 1: the great stars of England. Motown the same thing San Francisco,

1399
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: you name it, the New York Sound, the Los Angeles sound, Boston,

1400
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: wherever the sound was evolving, I was sent and I

1401
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: would go and Uh. I was always very cognizant of

1402
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: what was going on in music. I love the music.

1403
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: I was never a hip hop fan. As hip hop

1404
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: started developing, I didn't understand it. I never really I'll

1405
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: admit this, I never really understood jazz. Uh. I like

1406
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: jazz for Rainy Dave, very soft jazz, but I've never

1407
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: been a jazz fan. I never appreciated it. Maybe someday

1408
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: I will. I have plenty of time. But hip hop, No,

1409
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: that's not what I wanted. It's not where I wanted

1410
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: the music to go. Uh, not what I wanted. I

1411
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: wanted my R and B sound. I wanted to be

1412
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: comfortable with what I was listening to, and I wanted

1413
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: my audience to be comfortable what they were listening to. Obviously,

1414
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: you can't stop progress, you know. I always said every

1415
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 1: decade of music, fifties borrows from the forties, the sixties

1416
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,520
Speaker 1: borrowed from the fifties, and it's always like a transition

1417
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: period of music from the preceding time and it evolves

1418
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 1: and it transforms into what we're listening to. Well, it

1419
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: was so by the eighties. By the late eighties, it

1420
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: was getting a little bit out of my reach. I

1421
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't really understand what was happening. Albeit I like a

1422
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: lot of the music today. I enjoy listening to it because,

1423
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,879
Speaker 1: you know why, I hear a lot of my sixties

1424
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 1: and that music. I hear a lot of the stuff

1425
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,839
Speaker 1: that I helped develop and what's going on today. Music evolves,

1426
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: and it revolves, and it makes a circle, it comes back,

1427
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: it changes quite a bit. That's what the Beatles did.

1428
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: Beatles took our music of the fifties and they gave

1429
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: it a sick cease flavor, you know, with a different,

1430
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: different accent, different feeling, and a different genius. They had

1431
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: genius in it. And by the end of the fifties

1432
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 1: and sixties music, the whole industry was changed. Technology changed,

1433
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: distribution changed. There's a big word record distribution, records. People

1434
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: still buying a lot of records. Was distribution change. Has

1435
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: distribution change. We got larger radio stations, got more powerful

1436
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: and more powerful and reaching people, and we started getting

1437
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: wonderful producers and poets into the music. Industry, and things

1438
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: started growing. So by the late sixties we were really

1439
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: going to town. Everything was going well. Okay. So if

1440
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: one listens to your show, one of the features is

1441
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: you frequently have stars of the past come on the radio.

1442
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 1: Are there two or three of these people that are

1443
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: genuine friends that you've maintained a relationship or was it

1444
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 1: more of a professional relationship. No. You become very close,

1445
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: very good, very institute. Bobby become very close to some

1446
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,480
Speaker 1: of them, think a lot of them. I become extremely

1447
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: close to Tony Orlando. I love Tony Orlando. Um, I'm

1448
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 1: gonna I don't want to a friend anyway, because I

1449
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: have so many friends. I lost a dear friend, Leslie Gore.

1450
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: I lost, sir. You know, we've lost a lot of

1451
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: great stars. I'm friends with Charlie Thomas, the Drifters, I'm

1452
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:31,440
Speaker 1: friends Gosh, Bobby Rydell Dion. I'm friends with Paul McCartney

1453
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: and Ringo. Sir Paul, I mean we're hugging friends. Who

1454
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: are hugging friends? We uh whenever we get together, whenever

1455
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: we see each other. In the days when we were

1456
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: allowed to get together all right and see each other,

1457
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: we were very very close. Um uh, Tommy James, you

1458
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna let out. I'm gonna leave out so many,

1459
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: but so many people that are are the air, that

1460
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: are you we called stars, I recognized stars I've become

1461
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: very close to and they've become very close to me.

1462
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: Now talking about your personal life, you reach literally millions.

1463
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: Are those your friends or do you have one or

1464
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: two if any best friends in your regular life other

1465
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: than your wife? Oh yeah, I have a very dear

1466
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: friend my one of my best friends. Well, Joe McCoy

1467
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: is one of my very dear friends. Joe was program

1468
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: director of CBS FM, very important part of my life.

1469
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: Les Marshak, who was the voice of the Macy's Thanksgiving

1470
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Parade that we're gonna have again somehow virtually looks like uh. So,

1471
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: I have a lot of very close friends of mine

1472
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: that you know, we we uh we get together with

1473
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: and now of course Michael Michael and Barbara the Alertsmans.

1474
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: So we we have a very wonderful personal life aside

1475
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 1: from my other personal life. See, I don't I know

1476
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: it upsets my wife sometimes because we'll be eating uh

1477
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: and a restaurant and people automatically come over to my

1478
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: table and sit down because they know me. They feel

1479
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: on part of their families. It's not some bozo on

1480
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: the radio a thousand miles away, but it's somebody who's

1481
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: part of their lives. And I accept this. And I

1482
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: see Jody's uncomfortable with it sometimes she's used to it now,

1483
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: but I love it. I love the idea that they

1484
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: feel that I'm really part of their lives. And I

1485
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: know I am. I know I am, so I accept this.

1486
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: It's an important part and I think I think that

1487
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: is what's so important. When I go on the air

1488
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: at people know I'm talking to them. You know, Bob,

1489
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you right now, one on one. Now

1490
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: you know me for a little while. I think you've

1491
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 1: listened to me for a few years growing up, and Unstan, well,

1492
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that. But I talked to you

1493
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: personally when you were a kid. I never talked at you.

1494
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: I always talked directly to you, and I maintain that

1495
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: is a religion with me. It is one on one.

1496
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: I can be at a radio station and I know

1497
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that sting out there,

1498
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: but I'm talking directly to that one person. It's personal

1499
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: it's sensitive. That's what radio was. Now, you mentioned your

1500
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: present wife your first wife. Did radio and your success

1501
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: impact that relationship and calls it to end? Uh? I

1502
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: don't think so. It might have had a tiny bit

1503
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: to do with it, but no, I just think I

1504
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: think my first marriage, we we outgrew each other. I

1505
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: don't think radio, if I go back and think about it,

1506
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: I don't think radio had anything really to do with that,

1507
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: at least I hope not. I never That's funny. I

1508
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: never had that thought. Uh. Jody, my wife is my partner,

1509
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: she's my my best friend. She's on the air with me.

1510
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: The audience loves her. Jody gets a huge amount of email.

1511
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,440
Speaker 1: How long? How long have you been together with Jody?

1512
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: We're married now forty I think forty three years. And

1513
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: how did you meet her? Briand date blind date some

1514
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: friends of our He introduced each other to each other,

1515
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: and Jody met me. I came out of the I

1516
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: think it was CBS, I guess came out of the

1517
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: radio station that day, and there was It's been a

1518
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: romance ever since. And we went down a little literally

1519
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: and it's uh. Jody was born here in New York

1520
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 1: and she was a teacher. And it's funny I met her.

1521
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: Years before I met her, my brother was dating her.

1522
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: We keep things on the film. I didn't know this,

1523
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: and he brought her up. Bobby used to bring his

1524
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 1: dates up to the radio station to make some points,

1525
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, so he can have a good time. And

1526
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 1: it was cheap. And it was cheap also, you know.

1527
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: So he brings up this uh young lady who was

1528
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: a teacher happens to be Jody, And I didn't know.

1529
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: And Uh, she was teaching UH in law Old City

1530
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: or something, And I asked her what she did. Always

1531
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: talk to people when they come in the studio. I

1532
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: will always talk to them, you know, I said, I

1533
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: am so related to people that again I'll resist. So

1534
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: she said she teaches at UH. I forgot the name

1535
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: of the school in Long Island City, and I said

1536
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 1: on the air, I said, your teacher is here, Miss

1537
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: Berlin is here, and whoever's in miss Berlin's class tomorrow,

1538
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: you do not have to do homework. I'm choosing you

1539
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: from more work. Is that alright, Miss Berlin? Yes? Well,

1540
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 1: the next morning she walked into the school. Remember four

1541
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: every five radios, they went crazy. Well, a little that

1542
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: I know, maybe fifteen or twenty years later, Jody and

1543
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: I got together on this blind date and we were married,

1544
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: and I remember that incident when she came up with

1545
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: my as my brother's date. Fortunately she did not like

1546
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: my brother. Okay, So as the sixties progress, the FCC

1547
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 1: changes the rule so you can't simulcast on the FM

1548
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 1: what you have on a M. As a result, all

1549
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: all the stations that you're talking about had an FM component.

1550
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Now you ultimately were on the FM a certain amount.

1551
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: Scott and he went first. You know, there was w

1552
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: o R, then there was w A b CFM. There

1553
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: was ultimately any W or Scott changed. Tell me about

1554
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: that transition. That was a tough time. I really didn't

1555
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: understand it. I didn't pay too much attention at the beginning.

1556
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: And then we saw numbers, you know, like you said before,

1557
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: our important ratings are numbers were eroting. And suddenly this

1558
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: uh up start called FM, which really has been a

1559
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: round since. I feel to go back in your history,

1560
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: probably find it in the twenties, I mean, experimental and everything.

1561
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: World War two stopped the development of it, and then

1562
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: suddenly we're now back in the sixties and FM starting

1563
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 1: to make some points. We were making all the money

1564
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 1: because we had the most listeners. FM was getting a

1565
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: reputation of being a radio radio without commercials, alright, radio

1566
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 1: without commercials for a good reason. They didn't have any listeners, right,

1567
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: but well, you know, so look sponsors clients by when

1568
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: you when they know that Cousin Brucie has listeners. Cousin

1569
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: Brucie had half of the listeners, I'd have half of

1570
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: the revenue coming in. Well, a little by little, low

1571
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: FM was developing and they started getting numbers. AM was

1572
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: really starting to get hurt. And that's when I realized,

1573
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, this was getting to a time what we

1574
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: have to think about changing our lifestyle. And AM radio

1575
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: started going down the tubes a little bit terrestrial radio.

1576
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I AM ever really recovered. Part

1577
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: is gonna recover now, Oh boy, it's gonna recover now,

1578
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you all right. So, uh, I started buying

1579
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: radio stations. I started, I went to the CBSFM and

1580
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 1: I did. I did a lot of things to rejuvenate

1581
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 1: my career because all I cared about I wanted to

1582
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: be on the radio. I didn't want to lose my audience.

1583
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: That audience was now growing up having kids. They were

1584
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: my kids, I would their godfather, and that's what happened.

1585
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: So I was became aware of it slowly. The Needles

1586
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: just say, the radio landscape is completely changed. Since the sixties,

1587
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: there were a handful of dominant UH stations in every market.

1588
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: You could break a record regionally. Ultimately that was changed

1589
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: by MTV and today we have the Internet. Records tend

1590
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: to break first on the Internet and then go to radio.

1591
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 1: In addition, statistics tell us the younger generation tends not

1592
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 1: to be addicted to the radio as much as their forebears.

1593
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,680
Speaker 1: So I ask you, obviously, you will survive no matter what.

1594
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: But in general, what is the future of radio? I

1595
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: think the future of radio is terrific, and I think

1596
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: I think the audience has become so sophisticated that I

1597
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: don't know if they care if they're listening in a

1598
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: pod and iPod uh uh, if they're listening uh to

1599
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: uh Internet radio or what have a device they're listening

1600
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: to it today. I think the audience wants content. So therefore,

1601
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: if you give them content, no matter what device you're on,

1602
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 1: whether it be a m FM, satellite, if it be

1603
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: a pot in your ear. You know, I have a

1604
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: I have a prediction. In fifty years infants are going

1605
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: to be born with transistors and resistance behind the right

1606
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: of Earth, and you're gonna be able to think, get

1607
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: me cousin brucie, and that's all they need. They got

1608
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: it a little silly, but that's what's happening today. You

1609
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: have Alexa, you have Google Assistant. People listen to me.

1610
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Now with Alexa, you have Syria you can listen to.

1611
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: You have I Heart Radio. So there's so many ways

1612
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: of garnering communication. But the most important thing I think

1613
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: today the audience is that sophisticated. They want content. Give

1614
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 1: them content. They will go whether it's a M f

1615
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: M or whatever it is, they will find you because

1616
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: they want to listen to something that they hear in

1617
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: their lifestyle. Okay. Now, MTV ultimately evolved played fewer videos,

1618
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: primarily for ratings, but then as the twenty one century

1619
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,759
Speaker 1: came along, the people in MTV said, even though people

1620
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 1: are clamoring for the days of yesterday, we know that

1621
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: video is now an on demand item. Okay, so we're

1622
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: not playing videos. Music is an on demand item. You

1623
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 1: talked earlier. You talked earlier about your present show that's

1624
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 1: more of a talk show. So I ask you, in

1625
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: addition to yourself, what works on radio today. Well, once again,

1626
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: I keep going back to that word content. I think

1627
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 1: what will work on radio today is that you give

1628
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: people what they want, which is not just playing a

1629
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 1: stream of music like a jukebox, but that they can't

1630
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: get anywhere. They don't need radio radio. When you say

1631
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 1: the word radio, radio to me means communication one on

1632
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: one or to a group. If you want to do

1633
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: a podcast type thing, that's fine, you're getting a special audience.

1634
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: But I believe my kind of radio and radio at

1635
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: large is reaching out for people with ideas and with lifestyle,

1636
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: entertainment and information. You put that in that pod, I

1637
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 1: think you'll always capture an audience. Uh. I. Recently, if

1638
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: I may went back, I completed my circle. I went

1639
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: back to w ABC Radio. I left there forty six

1640
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: years ago. Now forty six years ago was a very

1641
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,439
Speaker 1: different form of broadcasting. As I said, we did music, news,

1642
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 1: I did weather and things like that, very little talk,

1643
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: just a lot of jingles and stuff like that. And

1644
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,799
Speaker 1: also there were no devices. You listened to a local

1645
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: AM band, you listen to it, and then FM came in.

1646
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: Today we have such a variety of how to listen

1647
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: to communication on and this is just a tip of

1648
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 1: the iceberg because seems like every week something else came out.

1649
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: So I come back to w ABC and what am

1650
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: I doing? Now? Am I doing the same thing? No?

1651
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Am I doing some of it? Yeah? Because people want it.

1652
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: You know, how I decided what to do on my

1653
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: current shows in w ABC, I used the Internet. I

1654
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: use my cousin Bruci Facebook page and other things that

1655
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: the U other the bulletin boards and things like that.

1656
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: And the question was what am I gonna do with

1657
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 1: this show? So originally I said, you know, but in

1658
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 1: the press had a lot of press when it was announced.

1659
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm coming back to this to seventies seven. I think

1660
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: I'll be doing uh, fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties. Well

1661
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 1: all hell broke procluse bombs. They wanted You're not doing eighties.

1662
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: No eighties for you. Everybody's doing eighties. Hell are the eighties, Percy.

1663
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: We want fifties, sixties and seventies. We want your echo back.

1664
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: What I don't want echo? It's coming here. Twenty one

1665
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Hey, everybody gets a I don't want

1666
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: to do. I'm doing echo vox popular the people's voices heard.

1667
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: They want jingles. I swear to god I can play

1668
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: as many jingles as as records. They'll be happy. They

1669
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: want the records. Now, what is this, teddy? They want

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01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 1: to jingles? This tells you they want that connection to

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01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: the past. Everybody today we are in a bubble. We

1672
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,799
Speaker 1: all want to escape. I am part of that escape,

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01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: Bob all right. My music is that escape. My jingles,

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01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 1: my reverb as part of that escape. They want to

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01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: go back and they want to leave this bubble that

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01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: we're in for those few hours. And when I go

1677
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: on the air today, I don't know if you've heard

1678
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: me yet, but when I opened a show, first thing

1679
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: I say, Becausins, here's the deal. You can't listen. You

1680
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:51,799
Speaker 1: can listen to me. There's no politics on this show. None.

1681
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: There's no talk about COVID none. You have a problem

1682
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: that you really need solved, and it's personal. I'll talk

1683
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: to you, but I'm talking politics no matter what. And

1684
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: if anyone talks politics, you're out. And I said, now,

1685
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: if you can't go by those rules, go get some

1686
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: ice cream somewhere, leave me alone. And that's what I do.

1687
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 1: And I go on and everyone loves it. They love

1688
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: the idea to escape our streets right now. And Bob,

1689
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: you are as you are like I. You would like

1690
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: to run away a little bit too, We all would. Okay,

1691
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: speaking of running away, you're now on the air one

1692
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 1: time a week. What is the rest of Brucie's week

1693
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: look like? What was Shodi wash to answer that? I

1694
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: go shopping order supermarket. I have been in the pharmacy

1695
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: more than they've ever been in these four months in

1696
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: my whole life. I don't know what we're doing. We're buying.

1697
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea. We're in the pharmacy. So what

1698
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 1: we do is it's home. Jody and I go for walks. Well,

1699
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: I love to hike. I keep it. I keep in

1700
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: great shape. I really, I'm in good shape. Still feel

1701
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 1: very powerful, so I stay young. I watch what I eat,

1702
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't drink too much. I miss visiting friends. I

1703
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: missed the personal relationship of hugging. I'm a hugger. I'm

1704
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: a toucher. I like touching, touching people. I like skin. Right,

1705
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: we can't touch anymore that is breaking my heart. Um,

1706
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: I watch television a lot, were watching series we stream.

1707
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: I go on my computer constantly. I answer my mail,

1708
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,919
Speaker 1: which takes me a huge number of hours. The emails

1709
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 1: are great. Everybody's requesting this is from last Saturday's show.

1710
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see it. No, it's

1711
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: really it's I'll flip it for those people. And these

1712
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: are printed out emails, a huge stack. That's one one day.

1713
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do with these things? Am I

1714
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 1: gonna answer? You know? You know I'm gonna answer everyone.

1715
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play everyone they're requesting. But it's gonna take

1716
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: me for Christmas? Is it's it's but so that's my point.

1717
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: The response is terrific. People want content, they want to

1718
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: find what they would like to listen to. I'm gonna escape.

1719
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: I have that bridge and uh we have three hours

1720
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: now once a week. We'll see what happens for that.

1721
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: I have a feeling. Let's go back to the vall

1722
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: for one more time. How did the four seasons end

1723
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: up doing your jingle? I have no idea, however, all

1724
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: I know is I received a phone call from Bob

1725
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Gordion and Frankie Valley and they said, I have a

1726
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: present for you. Guys, I have a present for you.

1727
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: About a week later, they came up with a five

1728
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: inch reel of real to real tape. A lot of

1729
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: the audience might not remember what tapers that little uh.

1730
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: It's on a plastic reel, round reel and it's like

1731
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: maybe a quarter inch stick and you played it on

1732
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 1: a tape recorder. They brought me this thing and they said, play.

1733
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,759
Speaker 1: This is for you. It's a gift. That's how it happened.

1734
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 1: They gave me a gift. Now that gift has followed

1735
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: me everywhere I go, no matter if I even do

1736
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: a guest spot out of station, if I do interviews.

1737
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: You probably have that song the four season singing, right,

1738
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 1: go go cousin, Brucy, that was a beautiful gift. How

1739
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 1: I came about and you know, I never really found out.

1740
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: It's a very good question, Brucy. This has been wonderful.

1741
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,719
Speaker 1: You're a fount of knowledge. In addition to telling your story,

1742
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of wisdom. I learned certain things. You know.

1743
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: I love talking to you. I look forward to talking

1744
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: to you in the future. This has just been wonderful. Well, listen,

1745
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: this is only part one. You think you hurt stories

1746
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: listening more stories, We'll do part two. Bob, Really, I

1747
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: know about you. Your reputation really precedes you. You have

1748
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: a great, great reputation. I congratulate you. I love to

1749
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: meet people who love broadcasting, and you are a broadcaster.

1750
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled to be part of your your family. Now, well,

1751
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: to hear that from cousin Brucy himself, I'm cpelling. It's

1752
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: like unbelievableing. That's Greek. I know that work. Listen. I'm

1753
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: not gonna let you do any more. Stick right now

1754
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: until next time. This has been Bob Left since