1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: for the invested sports fan. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: All Right, here we go, probably growing show. I'm saying 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: it's a cash touch. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: go to win. God, that's incredible. Big Banks, I'm all banks, 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: I like to make money. All right, this is the 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: ultimate kabai you want to put and we are underway. 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome back to another NFL episode of the 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Freeman, the editor in chief 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: of Fantasy Labs. Here with me is Sean Corner and 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: Chris Raybond. Shawn is our director of predictive Analytics and 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: one of the top end season fantasy football rankers for 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: the past half decade, and Chris is a senior editor 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: and analyst of the Action Network and a co host 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: of the Action Network show on Sirius XM Fantasy Radio. Gentlemen, 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Shawn and Chris always week one for you guys, it 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: was pretty much break even for me. 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: I'm just happy for football to be back. The Antonio 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: Brown saga was kind of annoying on Saturday, you know, 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: having a deal with that I kind of took away 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: from some of the time projecting all the other players. 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, we goin did not disappoint very exciting, excited 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: to talk about some of these guys that broke out. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: I'm really curious to hear what you guys think, and 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: you know, projecting these guys once we have you know, 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: a small sample size is always fun time for me 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 3: because I think, you know, people overreact or underreact. 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: So I love Week two. 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 4: It was actually a pretty good week for me, except 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 4: for the fact that it was even less sleep than 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: usual because my friend decided he was going to have 33 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: a wedding this weekend and it was rough, Like we 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: were we were literally doing those things that you would 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: kind of expect you to be doing at a wedding, 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: like watching games on our on our phones and just 37 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: like you know, every minute I. 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: Was like I was writing articles. 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 5: It was. 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: It was nuts. 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: But had a pretty good week one and yeah, excited 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: to talk to you guys, and I really excited for 43 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: our guests because guy I'm kind of familiar with. 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: Yes, well it's weak too. We got a lot to 45 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: talk about. We're breaking down the top of our rankings, 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: which you can find at Action network dot com, Slash 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: Fantasy and we're discussing the guys we're high on, the 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: guys were low on, the potential streamers and flyers, and 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: the daily fantasy values, fades and tournament plays. We're going 50 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: to speculate on a couple of props. At the end 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: of the show, we are going to answer your Twitter 52 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: fantasy questions. And here for all of that is TJ Hernandez, 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: a long time prime of the show, the director of 54 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: DFS at four before, and a host of the DFS 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: MVP podcast. TJ, thank you for joining. 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 6: Us, gentlemen, Thanks for having me. Always nice to be 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 6: over on the Labs podcast. I think this is probably 58 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 6: over five times now we've been together. And then of 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 6: course Raymon, my own partner of crime. Good talk to you, Bloudy, 60 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 6: you're there. 61 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: Let's get this money, TJ. 62 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: Before we get into the position by position talk for 63 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: week two, I want to kind of get your thoughts 64 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: on how do you weigh what we saw in week 65 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: one against the prior assumptions for players and teams that 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: you had entering the season. 67 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 6: You said, prior assumptions, there's a reason that we were 68 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 6: especially in DFS, like the way I'm looking at my 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 6: early season DFS values. I'm looking for players that I 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 6: expected to break out. Those are the values going into 71 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 6: the season. And unless there's some crazy injury or a 72 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 6: crazy time share like in a backfield, or something we 73 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 6: didn't expect, I'm still looking to those guys. And of 74 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 6: course the most obvious thing to look at is chase 75 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 6: to the volume. Look for the volume. There's always going 76 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 6: to be players in week one that have the splash 77 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 6: plays that score two touchdowns out of nowhere, adult look 78 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 6: at the fantasy points. We're still looking at target shares 79 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 6: to shares early in the season, snap shares, those are 80 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 6: gonna be the most telling things. So as long as 81 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 6: we're following the volume, following the playing time for the 82 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 6: most part, you're gonna be okay. 83 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. The top players at 84 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: the quarterback position in our rankings which have just come 85 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: out there live on the site. Now we have Patrick 86 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: Mahomes Deshaun Watson as the top two quarterbacks no surprise, 87 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: and then Lamar Jackson all the way up to number three. 88 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: Who are your top three quarterbacks for Week two? 89 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 6: If we're just talking about a value, some of that 90 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 6: stands out opposite of Patrick Mahomes, I really like Derek 91 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 6: Carr mand DraftKings. 92 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 7: Fifty one hundred dollars. 93 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: We just saw Jacksonville, Nick Foles and Minshew combined for 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty yards, three touchdowns and an interception, 95 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 6: just twenty fewer yards than Patrick Mahomes in that same game. 96 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 6: Obviously going to be a lot cheaper value. We're just 97 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 6: able to project quarterback so well and not have to 98 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 6: pay up for that high end quarterback. Kansas City as 99 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 6: a team, we were targeting a lot last year. So 100 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 6: if we're talking about a DFS value, Derek Carr someone 101 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 6: that really stands out to me. 102 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Sean, you have Mahomes, Watson, and Jackson all ranked in 103 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: your top three. Can you talk about I think it's 104 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: not a surprise that Mahomes and Watson lit it up 105 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: this weekend. It is a surprise, I think in the 106 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: way that Lamar Jackson had a lot of success in 107 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Week one. He entered the season with the reputation of 108 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: being a guy who was more of a run first quarterback, 109 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: and if he gave you something through the air, that's fine, 110 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: And then he did hardly he running at all and 111 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: just lit it up through the air. What are your 112 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: thoughts on him and what we might see going forward. 113 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's one of the most you know, intriguing 114 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: guys to project going forward. I had mentioned in the 115 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: off season, you know, his rushing ability gives him that 116 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: high floor, but it was gonna have to be his 117 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: passing game that will unlock his his ceiling. And what 118 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: we saw week one was incredible and he really didn't 119 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: run the ball. I think he had less than ten 120 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: rushing yards. So I think, you know, game scripts where 121 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: it's a close game, we're going to see him, you know, 122 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: reach his ceiling a lot more where's he's forced to 123 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: throw and run and and it's hard to really judge 124 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: week one because you know, maybe used the Dolphins. I 125 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: think it's uh, you know more you know, Lamar Jackson 126 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: and the Ravens offense is being better than we thought 127 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: than really anything Dolphins related. So again this week, it's 128 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: another good matchup against the Cardinals, so they could be 129 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: you know, leading by a lot, so they might not 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: need him running as much. But yeah, I have him 131 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: number two right now just because his pass and rushing 132 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: just like increases is selling way more than I even imagine. 133 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: So he's going to be a top five QB for 134 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: me in most matchups going. 135 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: Forward, Raymond, are you still on, not necessarily for this week, 136 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 2: but for the season. Are you still on Deshaun Watson 137 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 2: as the number one overall fantasy quarterback? 138 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 4: You know, I mean I had him, I had him 139 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 4: number one this week. I think, you know, it was 140 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: kind of neck and neck for me with with Mahomes. 141 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: But I think going forward, you know, he's good. They're 142 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna probably flip fop. 143 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 4: I think on on a weekly basis, I would say, 144 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: because you know Watson, he can run, and I think 145 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: you know, we kind of saw it yesterday even without QT. 146 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 4: You know, Kenny Stills helped him out where in the past. 147 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: You know that that offense is very thin, still is 148 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 4: able to catch a weight touchdown. They're not really throwing 149 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: to the tight end, which I think actually helps. And 150 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: Watson can still run and he's kind of getting better 151 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 4: at I think, you know, knowing when to run and 152 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: knowing when not to. 153 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean the couple of runs they called for him. 154 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: We're just excellent this week against Jacksonville. It's going to 155 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: be a tough matchup, but the bottom line is, you know, 156 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: we saw what Mahomes was able to do against Jacksonville. 157 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: So the matchups come into play, but they don't factor. 158 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: And it's not like a fifty to fifty thing where 159 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: you're just taking the opposing fantasy points and like averaging 160 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: them out between offense and defense like that. Offense is 161 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: still going to kind of dictate on the pace. So 162 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: I still have him as number two. I have Mahomes 163 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: as number one, and I have Lamar Jackson at number three. 164 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: All Right, one guy I'm pretty high on this week 165 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: is Dak Prescott. We obviously know he has the rushing floor. 166 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: I think one thing that really changes how we should 167 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: approach him moving forward is the emergence of Kellen Moore 168 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: as the offensive coordinator. I tried to be a little 169 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: bit pessimistic entering the season about Kellen Moore just because 170 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: he didn't have any play calling experience, and I thought 171 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: he still might be tainted a little bit by the 172 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: oversight of Jason Garrett. But I think Kellen Moore is 173 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: really the guy who's running the show, and the Cowboys 174 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: were aggressive and inventive in ways that they haven't been 175 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: in previous season. So I'm pretty high on Dak Prescott 176 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: this week. TJ. You mentioned Derek Carr as someone that 177 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: you're high on relative to his price, relative to maybe 178 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: where he is and other rankings across the industry. Is 179 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: there anyone else that you think you are relatively high 180 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 2: on this week? 181 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 6: I was actually going to bring up deck just because 182 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 6: we saw Washington they lived good in the first half 183 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 6: against Philly, but I think that had a lot to 184 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 6: do with Philly starters like playing no press staffs, especially 185 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 6: Carson Wentz. Just from a DFS perspective, we can go 186 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 6: back to Minshew as close to a min price, Scott 187 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 6: down to forty eight hundred, and that salary stating is 188 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 6: obviously going to open things up a lot for you 189 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 6: in DFS. But I mean, if you can go up 190 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 6: to car frowing three engine more, I think that's the 191 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 6: better play. But I really prefer to pay down at 192 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 6: quarterback if I can. 193 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: Sean, what about you, anyone you think you're relatively high on? 194 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, for me this week, that would be Josh Allen. 195 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: I think I have him my top ten right now. 196 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: He's only fifty three hundred on DraftKings. It's always hard 197 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: to tell if he's going to be high under Lowan, 198 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: but I love his matchup this week at home against 199 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: the Giants, who just you know, got laid on by 200 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: Deck four hundred plus yards. Obviously, you know, Josh Allen 201 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: nowhere near Dax level, but you know it showed, you 202 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: know week one. You know, having those veteran receivers they 203 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 3: brought in Cole Beasley and John Brown, I think those 204 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: are going to help them in the passing game. And 205 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: we saw his rushing ability is still there. I never 206 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: thought that was gonna go away. You know, he had 207 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 3: ten rush attempts. So again, similar to la Mark Jackson. 208 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: You know, when you have their passing floor rays and 209 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: you still have that rushing ability, I think it helps 210 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: their floor ceiling combo. Now, you know, having said that, 211 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: Allen had four turnovers. Last week, he had two interceptions 212 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: and two fumbles lost. So you know, this week, you know, 213 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: I'm expecting more of a ceiling game from him. So 214 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: fifty three hundred given this slate, I think easy to 215 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: be one of my heavily owned qbs for this slate. 216 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: All right, Raymond, who are you high on at quarterback? 217 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: The guy I've been high on, you know pretty much 218 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: all off season, didn't really do too much in Week one, 219 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: but Jared Goff. I really like him back at home 220 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: against the New Orleans Saints. Deshaun Watson put up a 221 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 4: plus twelve point seven plus minus on DraftKings, you know, 222 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 4: against the Saints defense, And if you just look at Goff, 223 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 4: you know he was actually a guy who dropped a 224 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: little bit last week in the rankings reading up to 225 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: game time, because he does tend to struggle a little 226 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: bit on the road compared to at home. If you 227 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: go back and just look at his splits with Sean McVay. 228 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 4: At home, he's averaging three hundred and thirteen yards, two 229 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 4: point one touchdowns per game, and yards per pass is 230 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 4: eight point eight, whereas on the road he's down to 231 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty three yards per game, one point 232 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: seven touchdowns, and just seven point six yards per attempt. 233 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: And those numbers, the efficiency increases a little bit more 234 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: even when you just isolate the games with Cooper Cup 235 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: at home, so that goes up to over nine yards 236 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: in attempt. So I like GoF back at home against 237 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: the Saints. I think this is going to be a 238 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: high scoring game and a game where they're gonna need 239 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: some points, and Goff's still under six k on DraftKings 240 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 4: and has that upside to be the number one QB 241 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: on the slate at fifty nine hundred. He's actually the 242 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: number three quarterback in hour models in terms of projected 243 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 4: plus minus on DraftKings. 244 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, the game isn't at the Superdome aka the course 245 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: field of Fantasy football, Butt, it should still be a 246 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: pretty high scoring affair, TJ. I want to kick it 247 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: to you to talk about a quarterback you are relatively 248 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: low on. 249 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean this is more just from a kind 250 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: of the end versus what I said, where I like 251 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 6: to pay down a quarterback when I can on in 252 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 6: DFS and we could replace quarterback points pretty easily Tom 253 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 6: Brady's sixty four hundred versus Miami. Obviously, the Patriots are 254 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 6: going to be one of the are the biggest favorites 255 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 6: of the week, probably going to score well over thirty points, 256 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 6: but with that probably going to draw a ton of ownership. 257 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 6: And if there's one thing we know about the Patriots, 258 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 6: it's just there's gonna be a ton of touchdown variants. 259 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 6: I mean, even if they score thirty points, they're liable 260 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 6: to have three of those go to their running backs. 261 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 6: Brady can have a great game and still throw one touchdown. 262 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 6: The blow offut factors obviously in play. So if there 263 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 6: is touchdown variants going against Brady and they're up by 264 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 6: something like twenty going in the fourth quarter, all of 265 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 6: a sudden, he's not playing at all. So, I mean, 266 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: the Patriots are gonna have a great game. They just 267 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 6: have so many weapons. We've seen seen it so many times. 268 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 6: It's from a fantasy perspective. It's such an unreliable offense 269 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 6: because they don't care about getting one guy a ton 270 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 6: of targets or touches. And there's going to be a 271 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 6: lot of hype with Antonio Brown. I think that's only 272 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 6: going to drive up ownership on this team even more. 273 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: Sean, I think you are also relatively low on Brady. 274 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on him and then any other 275 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: players you're also low on? Yeah, So for Brady, you know, 276 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: I think he's a good four play this week. 277 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: I just think with him, his ceilings lower than people realize, 278 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: especially at that price. I'm actually this is a rare 279 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: situation where I'm I'm projecting, you know, Jared Sidam to 280 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: get some snaps in this game. I think it could 281 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: be a blowout. So the question is will Brady have 282 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: you know, three passing touchdowns before that happens. But I'm 283 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: avoiding him. And then again, I think I'm way lower 284 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 3: on Kyler than most people. 285 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: This week. 286 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: I have him ranked twenty eighth right now, which I 287 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: think is a bit too low. I think this week 288 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 3: we will see more of his rushing ability, so that's 289 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: going to help his floor a bit. 290 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: But right now I'm minus a ECR. 291 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: You know, if I'm building one hundred and fifty teams 292 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: right now, I'm not really getting much Kyler. So he 293 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: seems to be the guy in that range where I 294 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, Josh Allen is the same price. I'm just 295 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: gonna have way more Josh Allen than Kyler, who has 296 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 3: a tough matchup against the Ravens this week, the. 297 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: Eighth at quarterback position. That is some pretty massive disrespect, 298 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: I have to say. But he does have the really 299 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: tough matchup Raymond quarterbacks that you are relatively low on. 300 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: This is kind of something I talked about going into 301 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: the season, and it's unfortunate because I don't think it's 302 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: much of his fault. He's He's going to have his 303 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 4: second tough matchup in a row. But Aaron Rodgers. You know, 304 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 4: he's the fourth highest price QB on DraftKings on the 305 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: main slate at sixty five hundred, and I just don't 306 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: think that should be the case. You know, I have 307 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: him just as you know, at tense, I might drop 308 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: him a little bit low. I don't know if he 309 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 4: necessarily deserves to be in the top twelve, even after 310 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 4: he kind of saw Chicago, you know, not not do 311 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: much on offense, but play well enough on defense. You know, 312 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: Rogers has the one big play where you know he 313 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: can do that, but you know you're kind of relying 314 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: on that, you know, to happen on a week to 315 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: week basis against another strong defense that kind of shut 316 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: out the Falcons, who you know, I was probably higher 317 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: on than I should have been last week. You know, 318 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: I'm just not feeling it for a route, especially as 319 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: a top five price QB. You know, in dfs, I 320 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: think you know, he'll get maybe some like contrarian well 321 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: or whatnot, but I think he consistently gets you overrated 322 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: in these fantasy spots just because of his name value. 323 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: All Right. The guy I'm relatively low on is Lamar Jackson. 324 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: I have him at quarterback eight, which I think is 325 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: too low. I'm probably going to bump him up little 326 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: bit where he ends up around quarterback six. But I'm 327 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: just a little pessimistic on the passing production that we 328 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: saw out of him in Week one. Not that I 329 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: don't think he will be a better passer this year 330 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: than he was last year. I think he would naturally improve, 331 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: and I think he has an offensive coordinator in Greg 332 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: Roman who will help facilitate his improvement. But I'm just 333 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm not going all in on him as a top 334 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: three quarterback. I think I probably have him more in 335 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: the five six range ultimately. But speaking of Lamar Jackson, 336 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: we should talk about some player props. By the way, 337 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: we have a wonderful player prop tool at Fantasy Labs. 338 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: Everyone should be sure to check that out that is 339 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: powered by the projections that Sean Corner creates. Sean, give 340 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: us a couple of early props that you have your 341 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: eye on. So the first one. 342 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: Is the guy I mentioned that you know, he's fascinating 343 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: trying to project this week, So any of your guys 344 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: help on this. But Lamar Jackson passing yards to thirty 345 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: eight and a half, I'm. 346 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: Going under I have him a little bit lower than that. 347 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: I think we did see the improvement. We did see 348 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: the improved you know, accuracy. I think he only missed 349 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: on what two passes out of the twenty five he threw, 350 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: But I think there will be some regression. The tempo 351 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: was probably a positive for him, but I still have 352 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: him throwing about thirty passes and I think he comes 353 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: up just a tiny bit short of that number. And also, 354 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: I mean this is Baltimore team is a really good team, 355 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: so you know he's going to be relying on this 356 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: efficiency to hit a lot of his marks. I think 357 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 4: throughout the season still have him as a top three 358 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: QV but I do have him. 359 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: In the two twenty range. It in terms of pass yards. 360 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going under. I have him right where Raymond said, 361 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: almost exactly a two twenty. I could see this being 362 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: a relatively run heavy game, especially if they get out 363 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: to a big lead. 364 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 7: I'm going to go against you guys and go over. 365 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 6: We saw this Arizona's secondary two backup quarterbacks get kind 366 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 6: of shredded by Matthew Stafford, a team that I don't 367 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 6: think wants to throw a lot and is two receivers 368 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: that I was going after just because of this Patrick's secondary. 369 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 6: So there is a scenario where we see a similar 370 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 6: game strip to the one who saw in Miami, and 371 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 6: these receivers are able to take advantage of this week's secondary. 372 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 7: So I'm gonna go slightly over. 373 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 6: Probably not another huge game, but I can see two 374 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 6: fifty two sixty pretty easily, all right. 375 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: And next up Andy Dalton, who's fresh off of four 376 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen yard performance without AJ Green. Another tough 377 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: one to project this week, but at San Francisco. I 378 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: have his line right now at over under two fifty 379 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: and a half. 380 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: I'll go over. In San Francisco. I think they have 381 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: a really bad defense. I mean, I know, like Arizona 382 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: has a really bad defense too, but I think the 383 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: difference here is that Cincinnati under their new head coach 384 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, I think they are actively looking to pass 385 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: the ball, and so I think they will be a 386 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: little more pass heavy. I have Dalton closer to like 387 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: to sixty, So that's where I'm going. 388 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm going under. 389 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: San Francisco's defense has this poor reputation, but we did see, 390 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: you know, in the off season, some potential improvement with 391 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: the front seven. We thought you know, it was pretty 392 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 4: talented and it could kind of gel and I think 393 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: we have to kind of. 394 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: Look at like quarterbacks versus expectation. 395 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: That's when when you're analyzing a matchup, you can't you 396 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 4: can't just look at it in a vacuum. So, you know, 397 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: we still have a small stample to go off of. 398 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: But I think the fact that you know, we saw 399 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 4: Jameis Winston, a guy that I think most of most 400 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: of the industry is pretty high on and rightfully so, 401 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 4: really underperformed against that San Francisco defense in week one, 402 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 4: and so I think you have to kind of account 403 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 4: for that a little bit. And you don't count on 404 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: a guy like John Ross going for you know, over 405 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 4: one hundred and two Teddies every week. You know, some 406 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 4: of these things that you had that advantage in week 407 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 4: one as a first time head. 408 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: Coach, right with Dach Taylor. 409 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: You know, they haven't seen anything, you haven't put anything 410 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: on film. It's tough for an opposing defense. Now you 411 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: come back around week two and I think things kind 412 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 4: of fettle down a little bit more. Yeah, I'm going under. 413 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: I have him, you know, not not far under, but 414 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 4: I have him. You know, in the high from forties 415 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: and so yeah, that's why I'm going under. 416 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 7: I'm gonna break the tie and side with Friedman. Go over. 417 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 6: I think San Francisco a lot of people in receipt 418 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 6: what they did to Tampa Bay last week and kind 419 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 6: of side with the forty nine ers, But I agree 420 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 6: with Freeman. I think this is still a mediocre defense. 421 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 6: That game had probably one of the widest ranges of 422 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 6: outcomes of any game, just because of how bad the 423 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 6: Tampa Bay offensive line was, and forty nine Ers obviously 424 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 6: hit their ceiling, and I think that's why we saw 425 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 6: a lot of sharps on forty nine ers and GPPs. 426 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 6: Now Cincinnati they don't have a good offensive line either, 427 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 6: But unlike the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they're not going to 428 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 6: ask Andy Dalton to take these long dropbacks like Arion's 429 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 6: dots for Jamis Winston. And unlike Jamis, Andy Dalton is 430 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 6: a little more conservative. I think he'll be able to 431 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 6: handle what Tampa Bay wasn't able to handle more short passes. 432 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 6: He's not going to make these horrible plays that so 433 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 6: I'm going to go over. 434 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about running backs, and I mean 435 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: locked into the top three I'm assuming everyone has Christian McCaffery, 436 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: Teguon Barkley, and Alvin Kamara in the top three. TJ. 437 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: Are you with the consensus there or do you have 438 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: someone else in the top three? 439 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 6: No, I don't think there's any way to get away 440 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 6: from that. The only thing people might see is that 441 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 6: if they're just looking at numbers, that Sekuon is down 442 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 6: to like sixty five percent touch share and gave up 443 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 6: some work to Goltman. But that was really just because 444 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 6: the Giants were getting smoke, which he's still going to 445 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 6: be a eighty percent backfield share, fifty percent team touch 446 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 6: here guy. 447 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: So I don't think there's really much to say about 448 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: those three guys. They are great, they're the clear consensus. 449 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: All of them are very reasonable DFS options in season long. 450 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: You obviously play them if you have them. Let's talk 451 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: about the players that we are relatively high on in 452 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: the rankings, TJ. Who do you like who stands out 453 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: to you? 454 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, we were just talking about this game in terms 455 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 6: of passing, but I think running backs on both sides 456 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 6: of this game are be really good values. Giovanni Grenard 457 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 6: fifty three hundred, Matt Grata at fifty two hundred. Obviously, 458 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 6: Geo's play is going to be tentative on whether mix 459 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: can mix and plays with that sprain ankle, but he's questionable. 460 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 6: They said he might be able to play week two, 461 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 6: but obviously an ankle is is tough. It's not the 462 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 6: high angle sprain it sounds like, but sounds like he 463 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 6: could this week too. Giovanni Bernard had seventeen and nineteen 464 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 6: touches in the game, was mixed out last year. San 465 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 6: Francisco allowed one hundred and seventy one total yards to 466 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 6: temp May running backs last week, a team that typically 467 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 6: doesn't provide a lot of running back production. And then 468 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 6: we just know that Mike Shanahan backfield is going to 469 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 6: be productive, especially if there is a guy that can 470 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 6: carry the load. Brada had fifteen touches last week. Now 471 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 6: with Tevin Coleman out, I think he has twenty touch upside. 472 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, what about you? Who's catching your eye? 473 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: So for me, it's both Redskins backs. So Chris Thompson 474 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: and Adrian Peterson, especially in DFS at you know their 475 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: priced as if Darius guess as a started running back 476 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: and he's obviously supposed to miss some I'm here, so 477 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: I think, you know, Adrian Peterson, especially after his first 478 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: benching ever, is going to come out, you know, motivated 479 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: this week. And then Chris Thompson showed that, you know, 480 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: when healthy, he is one of the premier PPR backs. 481 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: Is you know, like a potential flex play. This is 482 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: a matchup where they should be trailing against the Cowboys. 483 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: So I love Chris Thompson and dfs and especially in 484 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: PPR formats if you're kind of thin at running back. 485 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 3: And then I guess you know, Trent long term, this 486 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 3: isn't a backfield I really want to invest in. But 487 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: you know, the good news was Trent Williams. It sounded 488 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: like he could report, maybe not this week, but next week. 489 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: So I think getting him back, and especially after how 490 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: good the offense in general looked week one, there could 491 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: be some potential value in these guys. 492 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: All right, Raymon, who are you looking at here? 493 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: A guy? I'm pretty sure you know. 494 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 4: Anyone who stayed up to watch the late Monday night 495 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 4: football game saw Josh Jacobs at the Open Raiders rookie back. 496 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: They went out and got him in the first round. 497 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: He got even more of the touches than I anticipated. 498 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 4: He actually got twenty three of the twenty six carries 499 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: for the Raiders scored. The touchdowns got to go on 500 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: where Jalen Richard wasn't really involved at all in this game. 501 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: So I think that's a really positive sign for Jacobs. 502 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 4: And now he has a matchup back at home against 503 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs. The defense that we know is vulnerable, 504 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: but an offense that we know is going to put 505 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: up some points. 506 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: So, you know, I think the fact. 507 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 4: That we didn't see much Rashard is a really positive 508 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: development for Jacobs because that kind of gives him the 509 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: upside to, hey, you know, he could catch some balls 510 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: here and there, even if the Chiefs go up big, 511 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 4: and you know, Derek. 512 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Carr he was super efficient. 513 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 4: Tyrol Williams, he's like the one guy that he can 514 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 4: go downfield to at this point. But besides that, I 515 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 4: think it's kind of You're going to see a lot 516 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 4: of Jacobs, a lot of Darren Waller because they're their 517 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: best players. 518 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: So I really like Jacob this week. 519 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 4: He is, as it stands, the number one running back 520 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: in terms of projective plus minus in our draftings models 521 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: on Fantasy Labs. 522 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 2: The one thing that's really encouraging about Jacobs is that 523 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: not only did he get a lot of carries, but 524 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: he had only one reception, and I think there's room 525 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: for him to increase as a receiver. So I think 526 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: it could just be onward and upward for him. The 527 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: guy I'm really high on is Austin Eckler. I expect 528 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon's hold out to continue for a while, and 529 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: I think Eckler is really locked into his role, which 530 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: he's not going to be a twenty carry guy ever, 531 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: but I think he will be locked into that, you know, 532 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: ten carries at a minimum fifteen sixteen as the high end. 533 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: But then the real thing is the targets. He's locked 534 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: in to a target floor of at least five, and 535 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: I mean that can go upwards to maybe ten, just 536 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: depending on game script. And he's so efficient with his 537 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: touches that I think, even though he's not, you know, 538 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: the voluminous back that some of these other guys are, 539 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 2: he could sneak into a top five finish, maybe even 540 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 2: top three finish at the end of the week if 541 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: he gets some touchdown luck. So he's a guy I 542 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: am really high on. TJ who is someone you are 543 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: low on. 544 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 6: If we're looking at pricing and games, I think people 545 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 6: want to be attacking. Obviously that came to the open 546 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 6: game is one that's going to be very popular. Damian 547 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 6: Williams is at fifty eight hundred, and I think people 548 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 6: are going to look at that relatively cheap price tag 549 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 6: and say, all, I have the starting running back for 550 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 6: the Chiefs in a high scoring game. That's obvious play. 551 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 6: Shady McCoy saw thirty five percent touch shout with virtually 552 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 6: no preparation going into that game. I think that only 553 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 6: increases as the season goes on, and there's just a 554 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 6: lot of reliable options in that price range. Mark Ingram's 555 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 6: at six thousand, already mentioned Brandon Bernard, cheaper, Sony Michelle 556 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 6: if you're into that, you just mentioned Austin Eckler, Chris Carson. 557 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 6: Those guys are all priced around Williams, and I do 558 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 6: think we can see his touch share continue to decrease 559 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 6: as shate it gets more acclimate aggregated to getting back 560 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 6: with Andy Reid. 561 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, who are you low on? 562 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle? 563 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: And it's it's really tough because you know the Pats 564 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: are favored by nearly twenty points against the Dolphins, So 565 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: you just figure this is a Michelle game, But it's 566 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: almost too much of a positive game script. You almost 567 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: have to think they kind of preserve Michelle in a 568 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: spot like this, you know, having said that, you know, 569 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: his Week one is pretty brutal, so I don't think 570 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: that people are going to be loading up on him. 571 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: So he's a tough call. 572 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: I think he's going to need a couple of touchdowns 573 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: to hit value at that price we saw week one. 574 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't involved in the passing game at all. 575 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 3: Rex Burkhead was actually way more involved than I anticipated. 576 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: So this backfield is in a void for me right now. 577 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: One of these guys will probably have a huge game 578 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: against the Dolphins, but right now, I think you're just 579 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: throwing darts. So I think a game like this where 580 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: they're favored by a time, they actually might preserve Michelle 581 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: as opposed to giving him, you know, twenty plus touches. 582 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: All right, Raybon, what about you? 583 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 4: I mean the guy that stands out is you know, 584 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: unfortunately Todd Gurley, just because all off season we kind 585 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: of wondered what would happen and where does snaps be 586 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: and he played. He played about seventy percent of the snaps, 587 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: but had you know, twelve carries Malvin Brown and Weven 588 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 4: so in only one catch for Girley. It just wasn't 589 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 4: the same kind of volume that we hope for with 590 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: Todd Groley that we've seen last year. They were clearly, 591 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 4: you know, kind of trying to mix it up and 592 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 4: and keep them fresh and kind of keep them within 593 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 4: a certain touch range. Thirty to forty percent drop off 594 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 4: from what we normally expect from Gary. So you know, 595 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: I don't think he'll always lose out on a touchdown variants, 596 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 4: you know, to Malcolm Brown the way he did in 597 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 4: Week one. But I think that we have to kind 598 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: of adjust expectations, you know, for those that haven't already. 599 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 4: I think there are back priced lower than him that 600 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: you know, I would project for a higher median and 601 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: a higher floor. So I think in DFS that he's 602 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: a guy that people are going to try to get 603 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 4: cuted on after the slow week last week, but I 604 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: think he's still overpriced. 605 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's particularly unimpressive that he wasn't used 606 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: to the goal line and didn't have much receiving work, 607 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: which those are like two things that even if a 608 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: guy isn't getting a lot of carries, they can really 609 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: booy his production. So that he's not getting those is 610 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: really significant. The guy I'm relatively low on, at least 611 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: for one more week is Ezekiel Elliott played only thirty 612 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: seven snaps last week, and I think, you know, at 613 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 2: least for week two, they will still be easing him 614 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: into the offense as he works his way into football shape. 615 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: So I think in season one, if you have him, 616 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: you still have to start him. But he's a stay 617 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: away from me in DFS. Sean, what props do you 618 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: have for us? 619 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 3: So the first one was the guy I mentioned earlier, 620 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: Sony Michelle. I think he's really tricky to project. This week, 621 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: I have his overrunner for rushing yards at sixty five 622 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: and a half. 623 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 6: I'll take it just because I tweeted late night pretty 624 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 6: much exactly what Sean said. I said that birkheads top 625 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 6: thirty four percent of Patriots touches in week one and 626 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 6: that if it does get out of hand, that he 627 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 6: can be the one getting getting the late game cares. 628 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 7: It's like a twenty point game. 629 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 6: So yeah, again, there's just so much variance in this 630 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 6: offense that I'm going under. 631 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love how Belichick had Brandon Bolden get the 632 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: first carry, you. 633 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 7: Know, going two touchdowns this week. 634 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: Everyone knows that James James Devlin is a flat too. 635 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 3: If that's the case, I'm going to go over. 636 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: You know, in these kind of games where you do 637 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 4: have these large deficits, a big reason for that tends 638 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: to be because you know, the. 639 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: Main guys are being efficient. 640 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 4: So even with kind of you know, having Michelle Conservative 641 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 4: and his current touch here right around get the right 642 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: around sixteen per game, you do expect more rushes in 643 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: a game like this, Like anytime you have a team 644 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: with a youth that's a youth favorite, you expect some 645 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: more rushes and so that kind of helps with you know, 646 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 4: even if the project the share to go down a bit, 647 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: So I have him just slightly over that that sixty 648 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 4: five marks, so I'll go overrun this one. 649 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, my heart wants to take the under, but I 650 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: have him projected for a nice sixty nine yards right now, 651 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: and I think I'll probably stay there, But I don't know. 652 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: I can definitely see the case for the under, Like 653 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: in reality, I wouldn't bet this and I'll. 654 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: Be interested to see, you know, if they activate Damien Harris. 655 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: I think we should look into that. It's just really 656 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: interesting to see how they're going to handle the running 657 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: back situation this week. Next up is Ronald Jones. It 658 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: kind of looks like he overtook the three way running 659 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: back committee, So projection of fifty two and a half. 660 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 6: I'll take this one first again to go under. Even 661 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 6: though he did see a huge percentage of the Russia tempts, 662 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 6: the snapshare was pretty even three ways, with Peyton, Barber 663 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 6: and Agen Bale combining for nine targets. Wrong Jones at 664 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 6: we saw one. This Tampa Bay defense is still one 665 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 6: that you can text for the air. Carolina really disappointed 666 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 6: and we've won. A lot of people were excited about Churts, 667 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 6: Samuel and p Moore. I think they bounced back in 668 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 6: a big way. They're favored by six and a half. 669 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: I think they probably cover that pretty easily. And if 670 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 6: that's the case, I don't think Jones sees enough time 671 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 6: on the field to get to that number. 672 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to go under as well. I think PJ 673 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 4: kind of hit on it to snap. Heare and you know, 674 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: this is something that I think was kind of exacerbated 675 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: by you know, I'm getting into a passing scrip late, 676 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: but you had obomal At twenty six, Barbara twenty five, 677 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: Jones twenty two, Jones just tapping, you know, he he 678 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: got fourteen Russia tempts, Barbara. 679 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: Eight, and then Obamale zero. 680 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 4: So it's like it was just kind of one of 681 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 4: those scripts where I don't think you can confidently say, Okay, 682 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: Jones is going to get you know this sixty percent 683 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: or so sixty five percent, because you know there's going 684 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: to be the case where, hey, sometimes they're going to 685 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: be in just different scripts. There might be in a 686 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 4: pass every script, and you worry that they could he 687 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 4: could actually come off the field more because he only 688 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: did like four he ran four routes and blocked four times. 689 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: We had forty five pass players. 690 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: So that tells me that they don't like him in 691 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: past the situations that can always kind of kick your 692 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: time your time share down, or at least add variance 693 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: to the situations where I think you have to be 694 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 4: a little bit conservative with him. When you get to 695 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: like about three four games for running backs, that's when 696 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: the sample really starts to stabilize and you can use 697 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: it a little bit more reliably. So I'm going to 698 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: be a little conservative for the next one to two weeks, 699 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 4: and then I'll kind of rely on what happened strictly 700 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: with the carries and catches a bit more. 701 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hopeful with Jones, but one good game does 702 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: not lead back make and he was pretty bad last year. 703 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to go under as well. He did look impressive. 704 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: It's not as if he broke off one long run 705 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: and then had a whole bunch of short runs. He 706 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: had a good number of chunk runs, so just kind 707 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: of all the way around, he looked like a much 708 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: improved player relative to last year. But again, I will 709 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: be curious to see what people do with him on draftings. 710 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 6: I mean, it's not as prevalent as it used to be, 711 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 6: but in general we see inflated ownership on those Thursday games, 712 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 6: so I think he's probably an added fate just from 713 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 6: that aspect. 714 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: We kind of trashed the bucks O line, but they 715 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: actually did run block pretty well, so I mean, I 716 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: don't know if Jones improved it. 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Speaking of DraftKings, 749 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: the King of DraftKings is joining us Peter Jenning's aka 750 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 2: CSR m Ada, a two times world champion and co 751 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: founder of Fantasy Labs. Peter, how did Week one go 752 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: for you? 753 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 5: Sunday went well, had a really strong ROI the Monday 754 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 5: slate was brutalizing for me. I was very wrong about 755 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: the Broncos defense. 756 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Raiders look good, especially uh Waller and Jacobs looked good. 757 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: So we might talk about some of those guys, But 758 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: first I want to get some of your thoughts on 759 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: Week two, kind of from a roster construction standpoint, how 760 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: do you think you're going to be approaching cash games 761 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: and GPPs. Yeah, great question. 762 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 5: I think starting a quarterback, there's some spends that are 763 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 5: definitely in play, and then there's a couple of cheap options, 764 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 5: which we'll talk about, so that'll really dictate how you 765 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: build your teams. I do think there's some really cheap 766 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 5: stacks that are available. We talked about Oakland a little bit. 767 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 5: We'll get into more of those players. Really depends on 768 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 5: you which stacks are most intrigued by. But I think 769 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 5: the big lynchpin up front is going to be spending 770 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 5: up at quarterback or spending down. There's some really nice 771 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 5: values at running backs or some good spends, and the 772 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 5: same thing as applicable for receiver. One position I expect 773 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 5: to be kind of concentrated in terms of price is 774 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 5: going to be tight end. I think people are really 775 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 5: going to want to spend down because there's some really 776 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 5: good options there. So maybe being contrariing by spending up 777 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 5: a tight end, especially after Kelsey underperformed last week, could 778 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 5: be a nice move. 779 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: I want to get some big picture thoughts here from you. 780 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 2: So Week two is always interesting because we finally seen 781 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: some real game action in Week one but it's only 782 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 2: a sample of one game, so you can't put too 783 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: much weight on it. So how do you balance what 784 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: happened in week one with the assumptions you had about 785 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 2: players and teams entering the season. 786 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the best opportunity to be conturring might 787 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 5: be week two. You know, people are going to overreact 788 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 5: to the guys who did really well in week one. 789 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 5: So while there's some guys I still really like that 790 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: went off in tournaments, especially finding guys that might not 791 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: have had, you know, the best game, but are still 792 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 5: on the field a lot and still have some of 793 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 5: the things that you were hoping made them a good 794 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 5: play for week two. 795 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: All right? At quarterback? Who has caught your eye for 796 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: Week two? 797 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 5: So I think the two spins up top for Mahomes 798 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 5: and Lamar Jackson. You know, Mahomes is people are talking 799 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 5: regression coming into the year. He looked like the generational 800 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 5: quarterback that he was last year. He's just ridiculously talented, 801 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 5: and you know, this game could really shoot out and 802 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 5: the Chiefs are going to have one of the highest 803 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 5: team totals every single week. So I think you can 804 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 5: always consider Mahomes at quarterback. 805 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: That game is going to be. 806 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 5: Very stackable with the cheap Raiders options and Watkins, you know, 807 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 5: Kelsey and some of these cheap receivers to talk about 808 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 5: for Kansas City and a bit are all nice stacking 809 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: options like Lamar Jackson as well, coming up a huge game. 810 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: I think Arizona is a great matchup. And then the 811 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 5: guy that I'm that's standing out from maybe a cash 812 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 5: game perspective is Josh Allen, who had, you know, somewhat 813 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 5: of an ugly game but still got there, you know, 814 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 5: right around twenty points in fantasy and now faces the 815 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 5: Giants who just got absolutely torched by Dak Prescott and 816 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 5: the Cowboys. So those are the quarterbacks I'm looking at 817 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 5: earlier in the week. 818 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all three of those quarterbacks are popping in 819 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: our player models at Fantasy Labs. As far as the 820 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: running back position, who are you looking at. 821 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 5: Well, let's we'll start the talk of the Raiders. Josh 822 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 5: Jacobs forty seven hundred, way too cheap going against Kansas City, 823 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 5: which we saw Leonard Vernett get a lot of opportunity. 824 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 5: I think he's a really viable option rata depending on 825 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 5: the whole San Francisco situation. Looks like another kind of 826 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 5: cheapish guy that makes a lot of sense. And then 827 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 5: the guy that I'm probably going to prioritize spending up 828 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 5: on the most throughout the whole week is Alvin Kamara. 829 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 5: Guy was so electric on Monday Night football. A little unlucky, 830 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: actually pretty unlucky, I think, not to score a touchdown, 831 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 5: so I expect some regression there a great matchup. We 832 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: saw what christ McCaffrey just did, and I think album 833 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 5: Kamara is my running back one, so I'm going to 834 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 5: spend it's there, and there'll be a lot of options. 835 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 5: I think you can look to someone like say Sony Michelle, 836 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 5: who had an awful game, and Patriot running backs are 837 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 5: maddening to take, but in tournaments you can bank on 838 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 5: some real upside. With Sony Michelle going, it's this Dolphins 839 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 5: team that looks like it's given up, I tweeted out, 840 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 5: I think the Dolphins could be You know, playing the 841 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 5: Dolphins is like going to course field in MLBDFS. 842 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah at wide receiver, who are you looking at? Yeah? 843 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 5: So the one raider you didn't mention is Tyrell Williams, 844 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 5: Tyrell the Gazelle. He looked incredible coming off a huge 845 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: year in San Diego and now he's the true number one. 846 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 5: I was impressed with Derek Carr on the offensive line 847 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 5: for oak and going against Kansas City, you know, Kansady's 848 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: gonna putup points. So the pass catchers for Oakland, they 849 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 5: think make a lot of sense. I'm really looking at 850 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 5: him initially, and then the one interesting thing that I'm 851 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 5: going to dig into more are these receivers for Kansas City. 852 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 5: With the Tyreek Hill news, DeMarcus Robinson and m coole 853 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 5: Hardman should step in and play a lot. N Cole 854 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 5: Hartman played a lot of snaps once Tyreek Hill went out, 855 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 5: and Hardman really is similar to Tyreek. I mean, I'm 856 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 5: obviously been a big supporter of Tyreek Hill on the 857 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 5: football field, some questionable decisions and some stuff off the 858 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 5: field that's not great, but m cole Hardman is the 859 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 5: closest thing that the Chiefs have ran a four three 860 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 5: three forty electric player, and given a lot of opportunity, 861 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 5: I think he has a chance to have some really 862 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 5: big ceiling games. And I think everyone's gonna be on 863 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 5: Sammy Watkins after last week. And that was one of 864 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 5: the things I got right in tournaments last week had 865 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 5: a lot of Sammy Watkins. I was so impressed with 866 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 5: him in that game. Obviously he's going to be a 867 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 5: chalkier play and he's really expensive now, so these cheaper 868 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 5: Chiefs receivers, I'm spending up a receiver. It's going to 869 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 5: be Michael Thomas. I love these Saints guys. Michael Thomas 870 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 5: is a very similar story to Alvin Kamara. I was 871 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 5: very impressed with him. Could have had a huge game 872 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 5: and didn't, So I think it's a good time to 873 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 5: buy Michael Thomas. 874 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and on Tyrell Williams. The thing and also Josh Shakibs. 875 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: The thing that they really have going for them is 876 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 2: they have that Monday Night football discount where salaries were 877 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: released before they played, so in a sense, you get 878 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 2: that discount that's built in. And then Hardman is actually 879 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: pretty similar to Tyreek and that they both in college 880 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 2: score touchdowns in a variety of ways. His returnment, his 881 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 2: rushers receivers, so a lot of potential there for him 882 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: at tight end. Who are you looking at? 883 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 5: Yes, speaking of the same thing with Oakland, Waller looked incredible. 884 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 5: He got a ton of offseason hype. I drafted him 885 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 5: a lot in late rounds and his ADP kind of 886 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 5: shot up at the very end of the drafting season. 887 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 5: Looked incredible as the same situation with the other oapland 888 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 5: guys in that you know it was priced before you 889 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 5: know the game was actually played. Very encouraging opportunity. John Gruden, 890 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 5: you know, talking about how special Waller is as a player, 891 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 5: and you can just see it on the field. So 892 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 5: he's another tight end that I'm looking at. All those 893 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 5: open guys are intriguing. And then Hockinson is one of 894 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 5: my absolute favorite guys outside of the elite tight ends, 895 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 5: my most drafted guy in the offseason. This is a 896 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 5: truly special player in terms of measurables. You know, the 897 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 5: MVP of the rookies for the Lions coming off a game, 898 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 5: goes over one hundred yards, scores a touchdown. I know 899 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 5: it is an easy matchup for Arizona, but at three 900 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 5: K on draft kings, Howkinson just stands out. He has 901 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 5: measurables like Gronk and Kelsey. Honestly, he's probably the best 902 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 5: measurable tight end we've seen in a long time, already 903 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 5: breaking the mold for rookie tight ends, having success in 904 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 5: Week one and I expect them to have success throughout 905 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 5: the season. 906 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeh. Future Hall of Famer and going against a Chargers 907 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: defense that is without Derwin James, an easier matchup than 908 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: people would maybe suspect. Pete. Thank you for taking the 909 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: time to drop in. I'm going to kick it back 910 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: to the other guys at Action Network. Right now, we 911 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: have Devonte Adams, DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas as our top 912 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: three guys at wide receivers, TJ. Who do you have 913 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 2: in your personal top three? 914 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if you can venture out 915 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 7: of that right now. I wanted it. 916 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 6: To be Odell, but I don't know what to expect 917 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 6: from from those guys right now. The only thing I 918 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 6: would say is that it looks like DeAndre Hopkins is 919 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 6: by far the number one, and then it's kind of 920 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 6: everybody else. He's just so dominant that offense and him 921 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 6: and Watson that combo. He's my number one a pretty 922 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 6: big margin. 923 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the guys that we are relatively high 924 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 2: on in the rankings at wide receiver, TJ. Who is 925 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: got your eye? 926 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 7: I'm going to go really deep here. 927 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 6: There are five players priced below five thousand dollars on 928 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 6: DraftKings that saw at least twenty five percent of their 929 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 6: team's targets. 930 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 7: In Week one. The cheapest one of that group is 931 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 7: Cold Easily he'll be playing the Giants this week. Random 932 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 7: Cobb and Marty Cooper combined for four ninety one and 933 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 7: one on six targets on their routes from the slot 934 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 7: against the Giants last week. Sean mentioned that Hey's high 935 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 7: on Josh Allen, so it would make sense to get 936 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 7: his highest volume receiver. Obviously, John Brown's going to be 937 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 7: the sexy play there, but easily down at thirty one hundred. 938 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 7: If you are somebody that really likes to jam in 939 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 7: too expensive running backs, and I think this is a 940 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 7: week to consider it. I don't know if you have 941 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 7: to do it, but Piece is a guy that lets 942 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 7: you get there, all. 943 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 2: Right, Sean, who are you looking at here? 944 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 3: So the first one is pretty obvious, but it's Terrell Williams. 945 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 3: You know, the pricing came out before my football, so 946 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: you know, especially after that breakout, I think he's going 947 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: to be pretty highly owned at forty four hundred, you 948 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: know against Casey, so he's going to be highly owned. 949 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 3: I still think he should have him in cashing GPP lineups. 950 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 3: But the guy I'm kind of going down the list, 951 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 3: and you know, I'm pretty high on this week is 952 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: Ted Gen. You know, he's still ahead of tray Quon Smith. 953 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 3: That looks like he's priced pretty much the same as 954 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin, who I think is going to be highly owned, 955 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 3: so he's more of a GDP pivot from that. I 956 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: think the Saints Rams game is going to be a shootout, 957 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 3: so he's a guy going to have exposure in for 958 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 3: these game stacks. You know, with him, he's he's such 959 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 3: a high ceiling, low floor play that he's a GPP 960 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 3: option only. But I think that in this spot, especially 961 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: in this price range, he's going to be overlooked. 962 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: All right, Raybaum, what about you? 963 00:41:59,680 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: For me? 964 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 4: Cooper Cup. You know, what we saw last week was 965 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 4: a big positive. You know, he was on the field 966 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: for pretty much all the pass naps and you know, 967 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 4: played sixty nine of seventy seven snaps overall, ten targets, 968 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 4: seven catches. 969 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Only forty six yards. 970 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 4: But I think it's you know, really promising type of 971 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 4: volume for a guy coming off to torn acl just 972 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 4: right back in the mix. We know Marshawn Latimore for 973 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 4: the Saints excellent. However, that the two guys that I 974 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 4: think you have to look at, you know, the cornerbacks 975 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 4: in the Nickel package after him, PJ. Williams and Ei Apple, 976 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 4: And you know Williams gave up three or four for 977 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 4: forty one yards with a touchdown, and then you had 978 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 4: Apple giving up two catches on two targets for sixty 979 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 4: seven yards. I think those guys will be the guys 980 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 4: that you'll see on Cooper Cup more often than not. 981 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 4: And then finally it's another one of those situations where 982 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 4: the home splits. We've seen Cup five point two catches 983 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 4: seventy four yards and point six touchdowns per game at 984 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 4: home under McVeigh versus four catches just fifty yards and 985 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 4: in point four touchdowns. You see a pretty draftic increase 986 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 4: in home games for Cooper Cup. And I like him 987 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 4: right there in at sixty because I think, you know, 988 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 4: there are a lot of cheap guys who you know 989 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 4: people are going to be looking at, They're going to 990 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 4: be highly owned. But I think Cup of Rocks I 991 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 4: would play high floor, high field and kind of guy. 992 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm going with Sammy Watkins. I will be honest, it 993 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 2: was hard for me not to put him in the 994 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 2: top three, which I know is just total overreaction, But 995 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: without Tyreek Hill there and going against Oakland secondary that 996 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 2: last year was one of the worst in the league, 997 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 2: and this year I don't think is significantly better. There's 998 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: a lot of upside there with Sammy Watkins, and you 999 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: know last year, before his injury, he was a low 1000 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 2: end wide receiver two. But he will continue to get 1001 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: pretty significant volume without Tyreek Kill, So I have him 1002 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 2: pretty easily in my top twelve. TJ, who are you 1003 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: relatively low on? 1004 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 6: Tyler Lockett only saw ten five percent of the targets 1005 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 6: last week, even though he played ninety one person of 1006 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 6: the steps. I did something that I rarely do and 1007 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 6: went back and watched every officer snap for the Seahawks. 1008 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 6: Pretty Much all of the passes to DK Metcalf were 1009 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 6: designed first read throws for Russell Wilson and then Chris 1010 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 6: Carson was obviously heavily involved in the passing game. Now 1011 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 6: that that could have been something that was schematics specifically 1012 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 6: for the Bengals, but one thing Brockett thrived one last 1013 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 6: year was the deep ball, and anytime the Seahawks weren't 1014 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 6: throwing a screen or a slant. It just seems like 1015 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson had no time. So if there's not going 1016 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 6: to be time for Lockett to get downfield, Russell listened 1017 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 6: to make those throws. 1018 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 7: I don't know. 1019 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 6: How he continues to do or even meets any expectations 1020 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 6: that we had for him this year. 1021 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, what about you? Who are you relatively 1022 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: low on? 1023 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 3: It's Kenny Galladay right now, I having more of a 1024 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: high end wide receiver three. And you know the reason 1025 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: is the Lions can't face the Cardinals every week, so 1026 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 3: they're not going to have three hundred and eighty five 1027 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 3: yards to go around. And what we saw was, you know, 1028 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 3: Stafford has four pretty good weapons now with Holladay obviously, 1029 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 3: I still think he's the alpha in that offense, but 1030 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 3: you know, Marvin Jones is still going to need his 1031 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 3: deep balls, and then Danny Ammondola and TJ. Hawkinson had 1032 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 3: huge games. So it's just one of those situations. There's 1033 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 3: too many miles of feed, so I think that hurts 1034 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 3: Galladay's ceiling a bit. They face a much tougher matchup 1035 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: this week against the Chargers, so's he's moving down my 1036 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 3: Week two rankings. 1037 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 2: All right, Raybond, who are you lowing for me? 1038 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: Is Dante Pettis? 1039 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 4: There was kind of smoke coming into the season, and 1040 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 4: you know, tried to kind of ignore some of it 1041 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 4: because we hear a lot during the off season and 1042 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 4: we thought maybe Kyle Shanahan trying to motivate his guy. 1043 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: But we saw last last week that that. 1044 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 4: Pettis did not play the kind of usage like that 1045 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 4: we want him to be on the field for. So 1046 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 4: I think that you have to kind of go back 1047 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 4: and say, hey, you know, you know kylech and Antony, 1048 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 4: Hey he might be hurt, he's going to play more. 1049 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 4: But the bottom line is we don't know. We can't 1050 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 4: take that to be true or not. I mean, he 1051 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 4: only ran one route, he was on the field for 1052 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 4: two snacks, and even if he is healthier this week, 1053 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 4: like what is the true upside there? I don't think 1054 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 4: he's a guy that you want to be starting unless 1055 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 4: you're in like a super deep league this week until 1056 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 4: further notice. And I think he's the USA just too 1057 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 4: low even for Contrariyan GPP play because I think they 1058 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 4: are just you know, guys that are going to that 1059 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 4: are cheaper that you're going to be able to get 1060 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 4: more of a floor in terms of snapcount. 1061 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably still too high on Pettis and the rankings, 1062 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: and I need to move him down some. The guy 1063 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 2: I am really low on probably no surprise, Antonio Brown. 1064 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I think he will be a 1065 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 2: great wide receiver three in that offense behind Julian Edelman 1066 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 2: and Josh Gordon. And of course I'm joking a little bit. 1067 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 2: I think he will be the wide receiver one, but 1068 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: not right away. I think it will take him a 1069 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 2: little bit of time to integrate into that offense. And 1070 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many other good players who 1071 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: catch the ball there in Edelman and Josh Gordon that 1072 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 2: I think, at least for week one in that team, 1073 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 2: I want to be a little bit pessimistic about how 1074 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 2: much he's going to play and then how aggressive they're 1075 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 2: going to be in targeting him. So I'm relatively low 1076 00:46:59,400 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: on him. 1077 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so wide receiver, there's so many players. I want 1078 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 3: to get your opinion, So let's start off with Antonio Brown. 1079 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 3: I have for his receiving yards at Miami right now 1080 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 3: at fifty two and a half. 1081 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 4: I'm going over I mean it's Antonio Brown, like you know, 1082 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I mean, he's not hurt. 1083 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 4: And you just look at Lamar Jackson last week, and 1084 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Okay, we thought maybe he would take a 1085 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 4: step forward, but this guy missed on like two passes. 1086 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 4: They put up fifty nine points. Everyone put all of 1087 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 4: the passes for all of the yards and all of 1088 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 4: the touchdowns against his team. So it's like, yeah, I 1089 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 4: do agree, I think the usage might kurtails a blowout. 1090 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 4: But I mean, like this is Antonio Brown up against 1091 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 4: what might be a historically poor defense and a quarterback 1092 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 4: that looked like he didn't know how to throw the 1093 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 4: football last year, just torched mercilessly. So like Antonio Brown, 1094 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 4: fifty yard games aren't really his thing. You know, he's 1095 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 4: usually up above there if he's on the field for 1096 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 4: any sig different amount of time. 1097 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: So I hate to go over because it's usually a trap. 1098 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 7: But yeah, I'm going to go over against this Miami defense. 1099 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 6: It's not gonna be hard to get for one or 1100 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 6: Two's not a huge number for Antonio Brown. 1101 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 7: I know there's a few miles to feet. 1102 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 6: I know it's his first week and there's the blah factor, 1103 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 6: But I just am of the firm belief that a 1104 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 6: super alpha receiver is going to get targets coming his way. 1105 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 6: And I know you can say Edelman is kind of 1106 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 6: the same thing. And Gordon, I mean, he's a big 1107 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 6: play guy only software targets last week. I want to 1108 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,240 Speaker 6: be surprised if Antonio Brown has such or seb targets 1109 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 6: in the first half. 1110 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 2: Sean, I resent you setting this line where he did, 1111 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 2: because I feel like you lowered it. Knowing that I'm 1112 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 2: so low on Antonio Brown, I'm taking the over. Although 1113 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: I would say, although Miami was horrible last week, I 1114 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 2: do think that there could be some sort of twenty 1115 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 2: eighteen Matt Patricia Lions potential here. With Brian Flores coming 1116 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 2: from New England and being familiar at least with the 1117 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 2: personnel and with Bill Belichick, it wouldn't be totally unthinkable 1118 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 2: that he actually is unthinkable that they could come up 1119 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 2: with some sort of deep It's a point to shut 1120 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 2: down the Patriots, but I think the Patriots might not 1121 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: be quite as good this week as we all expect 1122 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: them to be. 1123 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 3: All Right, So next up, I'm just going to combine 1124 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 3: these two guys because they have the same projection. Just 1125 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 3: to save some time, but Marquith Brown and Terry McLaurin 1126 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 3: over under forty eight and a half receiving yards. 1127 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 6: Since we have two, I'll just do it pretty quickly. 1128 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 6: That Marquis Brown against bang it Up Secondary. He only 1129 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 6: played twelve snaps, but that was a blowout. I think 1130 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 6: that a little bit do blow still SI ninety percent 1131 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 6: target ship and having that dbate dot versus best secondary. 1132 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go over Lafart. I'm gonna go under. 1133 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 6: Played a lot of snaps, but we saw five guys 1134 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 6: with at least six targets on the Redskins, so they'rena 1135 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 6: spread it out a little bit. There's gonna be a 1136 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 6: lot of variants in that offense just because they're not 1137 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 6: good because case teams are quarterback and they don't have 1138 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 6: alphas here. 1139 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go under on both that. 1140 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 4: I think those are really good lines because I have 1141 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 4: them both under, but not by more than a couple 1142 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 4: of yards each. Brown had that advantage of never seeing 1143 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 4: this guy. Also, you know that defense, that Miami defense 1144 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 4: we talked about. We don't know exactly. There's a chance 1145 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: it could just be really bad. And like that it 1146 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 4: looks like it is and that could have been an outlier. So, 1147 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 4: you know, with him not really playing any amount of 1148 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 4: significant snaps, having that unknown factor in his favor, I see, 1149 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 4: I still have him kind of projected to be right 1150 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 4: there at the top for the Ravens in terms of 1151 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 4: sharing the targets. 1152 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 1: And then mclauren kind of the same thing. 1153 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 4: It's like, you know, he's he's kind of right there 1154 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 4: at the top for the Redskins, but you know, his 1155 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 4: dowas defense a tough defense to get over on on 1156 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 4: the outside. I think case Keenum, you know, not a 1157 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 4: great quarterback, not going to husually kind of bump his efficiency, 1158 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 4: so I think he kind of comes back down to 1159 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 4: earth a bit. I have both of them getting you know, 1160 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 4: over three catches, you know, just kind of flying right 1161 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 4: short of that of that fifty yard mark. 1162 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 2: I will take the under on both, although I'm pretty 1163 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: close on both of those. Let's go to tight ends. 1164 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the big three is pretty clear here. We 1165 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 2: have Travis Kelce, George Kittle, and Zach Ertz. I don't 1166 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: know if we need to talk about them at all, 1167 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 2: just they're all vible in DFS and if you have 1168 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 2: them in season long, you are obviously playing them to J, 1169 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 2: who is a player at tight end that you are 1170 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 2: relatively high on. 1171 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the obvious guy here in DFS. 1172 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 6: Darren Waller thirty three hundred persons the Chiefs as a targets, 1173 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 6: led the team in week one. I don't generally like 1174 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 6: eating the chalk at tight end. I think Darren Waller 1175 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,959 Speaker 6: will be fairy chocky, but you're mitigating that with thirty 1176 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 6: four hundred dollars price tag, and it just looks like 1177 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 6: we're going to be right back where we were last 1178 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 6: year at tight end, where there just aren't going to 1179 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 6: be that many options. There's going to be the alpha 1180 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 6: guys and then just one or two cheap options. So 1181 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 6: I don't know if you can really avoid eating the 1182 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 6: shock this week, Sean. 1183 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 2: What about you? 1184 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 3: So I think the obvious one's t J Hawkins and 1185 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 3: three K this week, so I think he's going to 1186 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 3: be pretty heavily owned, so I'll probably pivot off of 1187 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 3: him in GVP. So I think this week you actually 1188 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 3: want to pay up to be a contrarion. So, like 1189 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 3: you mentioned, I mean, Kelsey and Kittle are fantastic plays, 1190 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 3: but also Evan Ingram at fifty two hundred. You know, 1191 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 3: it sounds like Storring Shepherd could be in the concussion protocol. 1192 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 3: So if he misses this week, I mean it's gonna 1193 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 3: be hard to max that evaning target production. Who saw 1194 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 3: fourteen targets last week, so strong shuckers out. You know, 1195 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 3: I just think they feed him the ball time here 1196 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 3: against the Bills, So he'll be one of my heavily 1197 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 3: owned tight ends this week. 1198 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 2: In transition, just imagine being in a dynasty league and 1199 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 2: drafting Noah Fanse instead of TJ. Hawkinson. You would have 1200 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: to hate yourself right now, Rayvon, who are you relatively 1201 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 2: high on at the position? 1202 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: I really like Mark Andrews. I mean we just talked 1203 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: about Hockinson. 1204 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 4: Well, Mark Andrews gets this same Arizona defense that gave 1205 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 4: up you know, six catches one hundred and thirty one 1206 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 4: yards and a touchdown to Hockinson and a fifteen yard 1207 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 4: catch to Jesse James, so seven for one, forty five 1208 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:38,720 Speaker 4: and one overall. 1209 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: I know that there was a couple, you know, a little. 1210 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 4: Extra plays in that game because of the overtime, but 1211 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 4: I think you are going to see some vulnerability from 1212 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 4: this Cardinal team. I think huge upside for Andrews, one 1213 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 4: of the top value plays this week at thirty eight hundred. 1214 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm with you there on Andrews, and the first go 1215 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: around of the rankings, I'm a little bit lower on 1216 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 2: him than I want to be. I'm definitely going to 1217 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 2: adjust that up. Another guy I'm high on is Tyler Eifert. 1218 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't have a great performance in Week one, 1219 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: had only twenty seven yards on five receptions, but he 1220 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 2: did have six targets, and I think that is something 1221 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 2: that's probably going to be fairly sticky. I could see 1222 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,880 Speaker 2: Eiffort having a pretty good week here. TJ. Who are 1223 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 2: you relatively low on Vance McDonald's. 1224 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 6: I just don't know if this Pittsburgh offense is one 1225 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 6: that we're going to be able to trust it all 1226 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 6: at this point. I know you could kind of look 1227 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 6: at going into Week one, we expect that Bill Belichick's 1228 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 6: going to take away the wide receiver one who should 1229 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 6: have been Juju, and that should. 1230 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 7: Have benefitted some other pass catchers. 1231 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 6: But it didn't even look like they were bracketing or 1232 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 6: putting a safety over the top of Juju. I think 1233 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh offense just looked bad and that obviously impacts vast McDonalds. 1234 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 6: He saw less than ten percent of the targets, and 1235 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's overreaction, but I think Pittsburgh 1236 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 6: is his offense that I already don't trust. 1237 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 2: All right, Sean, what about you? 1238 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 3: So for me this week, it's Jared Cook. You know, 1239 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 3: I've talked about it all off season. I don't really 1240 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 3: like him from a medium projecting standpoint, and it was 1241 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 3: really concerning to see, you know, Drew Brees have a 1242 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 3: three hundred and seven yard game and for Cook to 1243 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 3: do so poorly, you know, he only saw three targets. 1244 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: Having said that, this week is another situation. I think 1245 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,479 Speaker 1: Brees can go off. 1246 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 3: So if you know you're going to take a shot 1247 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 3: in a GPP, I think he's gonna be pretty under owned. 1248 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 3: But in terms of rankings and stuff, you know, we 1249 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 3: saw a lot of these guys, you know, like TJ. Mentioned, 1250 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 3: like Delaney Walker, TJ. Hawkinson. You know a lot of 1251 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 3: these secondary tight ends have raised up in my rankings. 1252 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: So Jared Cook has fallen. He's a guy I'm avoiding. 1253 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 3: But you know, having said that, he's such a high 1254 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 3: ceiling well for guy that you can't avoid him completely. 1255 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 2: A GPP's all right, rab on, what about you. 1256 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 1: It's Jimmy Graham. 1257 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 4: You know he had the touchdown catch last week, but 1258 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 4: you know he only ran twenty three routes on the 1259 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,320 Speaker 4: team have forty pass plays, so he was kind of 1260 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 4: you know, Mercedes Lewis was kind of right there, had fifteen, 1261 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 4: and then Robert Tanyaan, the number three tight end, had ten. 1262 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 4: I think the touchdown it was it was a brilliant 1263 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,280 Speaker 4: play by Aaron Rodgers to just throw it up to Jimmy, 1264 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 4: and I think we do need to see more of that. 1265 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,359 Speaker 4: But this is another tough matchup. I know, and Hooper 1266 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 4: kind of had a lout of volume, but the fact 1267 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 4: that he ran barely over half the past plays is 1268 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 4: concerning for a guy that I think, you know, has 1269 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 4: kind of jumped into that top ten in terms of pricing. 1270 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 4: I think Mark Andrews, you know right there, has probably 1271 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 4: I think you project them for like two three more 1272 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 4: points just in terms of straight up median, and he's 1273 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 4: only one hundred dollars more. But I just think that 1274 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 4: the ceiling floor is much lower because of how many 1275 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 4: routes how much time he spent on the field. 1276 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 2: All Right, The guy I'm relatively low on is Greg Olsen. 1277 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 2: He had nine targets last week, and targets tend to 1278 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 2: be sticky, but he was so inefficient and this kind 1279 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 2: of continues a trend of inefficiency for him over the 1280 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 2: past few years. And Curtis Samuel really didn't see the 1281 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: target volume that I think people were expecting him to see. 1282 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 2: So I could see some of these targets that went 1283 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 2: to Olsen in week one shifting towards Curtis Samuel and 1284 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 2: other players in week two, So I would expect for 1285 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: him moving forward to see fewer overall targets. Guys. To 1286 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 2: close out the show, let's get to some of the 1287 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 2: questions that we got on Twitter. TJ. I'm going to 1288 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 2: kick it to you forst year. This is from Cody Sutler. 1289 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 2: Is Henderson still to stash for rams or is it 1290 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 2: better to stash Brown Brown? Eleven touches, twenty one snaps 1291 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: Anderson one touch, two steps Brown Raymond. This is from 1292 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 2: Kyle p Is Tevin Coleman were stashing through the injury? 1293 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: Probably not, but it depends on your league and your roster. 1294 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 4: But I think I would probably drop him unless I 1295 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 4: was in like a probably a bigger than a twelve team. 1296 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 2: All right, this is from Joshua Pringle for Sean. Can 1297 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 2: you give us an update on your favorite bench stash 1298 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 2: running back? 1299 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 3: So my favorite ones are still Alexander Madison, Justice Hill, 1300 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 3: c j Anderson, Malcolm Brown. Some of the ones that 1301 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 3: I think jumped up my back up running back rankings 1302 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 3: of the ego Smith Wayne Goleman seems like he's Sakoon 1303 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 3: Barkley's handcuff, Rex Burt kit and Raheem Mosert. You know, 1304 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers running backs are dropping like flies, 1305 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 3: so I stashed him as well. 1306 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 2: All right, Raymond? Is tom Brady worth keeping as his 1307 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 2: second quarterback to try to trade later if you already 1308 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 2: have someone like Carson Wentz, Lamar Jackson, dak Et cetera. 1309 00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 4: I mean, yea, I would keep him through this week 1310 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 4: because the Patriots just have such a ridiculous kind of 1311 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 4: expectation with Antonio Brown. Josh Gordon, Yeah, yeah, like, hold 1312 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 4: on to him, see what he does, then try to 1313 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 4: flip him hopefully has a big week this week. 1314 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you keep him because there is a 1315 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 2: actual chance that Brady throws like fifty touchdowns this year 1316 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 2: with the wide receivers he has. Okay, Sean, this is 1317 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 2: a question from Steven Dominguez, what are your thoughts on Jamis? 1318 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 3: You know, I think people are directing questions to me 1319 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 3: because my draft plan was literally just wait tills, you know, 1320 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 3: rounds ten through thirteen to take either Jamis Dak or Lamar, 1321 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 3: so that Dak Lamar guys aren't panicking, but Jamis guys are. 1322 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 3: You can drop him. He'll probably stink this week against Carolina, 1323 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 3: and then he'll probably still be available ahead of Week 1324 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 3: three and you could pick him up there if you 1325 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 3: want to get back on the Jamis Winston roller. 1326 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 2: Coaster, Raymond, if you have it in Joku, would you 1327 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 2: drop him to add Hawkinson or would you add Hawkinson 1328 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 2: and just keep both guys? 1329 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 4: I would keep both guys. I think that you know, 1330 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield wasn't right. I know we had some X 1331 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 4: rays on his hand. It just was like an uncharacteristic 1332 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 4: game for the Cleveland Browns. But I'm still very high 1333 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 4: on them and the bottom lines and the joke was 1334 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 4: still you know, found the end zone dig we had 1335 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 4: to do, So yeah, I would hold on both those 1336 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 4: got to this point. 1337 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 1: Very talented guys. 1338 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 2: All right, TJ. This is from Javier pick One quarterback 1339 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, Cam Newton, Kyler, Murray 1340 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. 1341 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 6: Dak's just a new quarterback with Kellen Moore. And then 1342 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 6: obviously you saw how different is with Amar Ducks the 1343 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 6: guy from being here. 1344 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 2: All right, Raybond, this is from Dino Fontaine. What is 1345 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: your confidence level in the Steelers offense getting back on track? 1346 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 4: Relatively high? I think, you know, this was something that 1347 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 4: I had the under in this game. You guys, can 1348 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 4: you know follow me in an action ever? 1349 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: Gap that was ry. 1350 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 4: I thought the Patriots defense is just that good, and 1351 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 4: I don't think that'll be the situation going forward. It 1352 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 4: was just a rough, rough game for Pittsburgh going on 1353 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 4: the road in Week one. 1354 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers outside of home tend to struggle. Sean, which 1355 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 2: head coach is your favorite to get fired first? 1356 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 3: The favorite to start the season was Jay Gruden three 1357 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 3: to one. I think that still remains true. Like I 1358 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, you know, it was the first time Adrian 1359 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 3: Peterson has been benched in his career, and that's kind 1360 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 3: of how you lose the locker room and it could 1361 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 3: expede Gruden being fired. 1362 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 2: All right, TJ Hernanez, thank you for joining us. Everyone. 1363 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to follow TJ on Twitter at tj Hernanez. 1364 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 2: You can follow Sean, Chris and me in the Action 1365 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: Network app at the Underscore Odds maker Chris Raybond and 1366 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 2: Matt f the Oracle use the app to get real 1367 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 2: time odds and track your bets for free. 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