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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: taste on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now

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Speaker 1: your host, Steve Dennis. All right, here's the deal. Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard took the opening kickoff fifty four yards to the

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Speaker 1: Denver forty seven Sunday, straight up noon. And after that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys did nothing good, competitive, worth watching or had

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Speaker 1: the look of a Super Bowl contending team in any way.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happened. Welcome everybody to media Mash. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna call this. We're gonna call this an our therapy session.

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Speaker 1: And I think we've got the perfect rup a therapist.

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Speaker 1: And I may or may not explain that in a

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Speaker 1: minute from my point of view, because I could get

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Speaker 1: in trouble. But Jane Slater right from the NFL Network,

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Speaker 1: Jorry Epstein from US USA today, fresh off the airplane

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Speaker 1: from New York, because no, was it New York, d

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Speaker 1: DC it we tell her why might have been New York?

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Speaker 1: And George just lost track of all these places she's

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Speaker 1: going because she had a book signing. Well, she's a

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Speaker 1: very accomplished writer and she's a rock star. I'm not shocked.

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Speaker 1: So she had a book signing, which means did they

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Speaker 1: line up like hundreds of thousands? Hundreds of thou sign

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Speaker 1: must have missed most of them. So two hours into

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Speaker 1: it you're starting to grumble if I have to sign

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Speaker 1: one more book? May we have that problem? That a

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Speaker 1: great problem. And of course Rob Phillips Cowboys media here

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Speaker 1: as well. The reason why I could get in trouble

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Speaker 1: is because most guys I think don't do well with therapy.

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Speaker 1: Anytime I was ever confronted with it, I was out. Now, women,

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Speaker 1: women are good at it, which is why I never

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Speaker 1: wanted to do it with my spouse because she would

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Speaker 1: kick my ass in it, so I had to stay

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Speaker 1: away from it. See now, I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: sexist or not. It's just a general feeling I have

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Speaker 1: that women are better at therapy than men, especially when

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Speaker 1: it's men and women together. What do you think later,

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Speaker 1: Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: can speak from personal experience that women enjoy sharing their

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Speaker 1: feelings understanding their feelings more so than men. Men like

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Speaker 1: and whenever the questions start coming up. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: with that, as are more stoic, you know, yeah, your

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Speaker 1: share feelings. I think we're working on changing the perceptions though,

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Speaker 1: and like what we as a society have done to

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Speaker 1: cause that. I think you're right, which is good thing. No,

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Speaker 1: I think you're right, and your generation is doing a

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Speaker 1: much better job than mine and the one before me.

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Speaker 1: Except look at Dak Prescott. Yeah, I think he's sort

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Speaker 1: of been a forefront of all of this talking about

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Speaker 1: the importance of sharing your feelings and Calvin Ridley stepping

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Speaker 1: away from the game dealing with his mental health. And

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Speaker 1: that is so good for guys because guys have needed

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Speaker 1: that forever. You're a deep well, there's a lot there

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Speaker 1: to come out there to discuss. I think you might

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Speaker 1: good with therapy amongst other guys. Now, my golf buddies,

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Speaker 1: I can get them off anywhere. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: what what is fine therapy? Well, you asly alcohol, you're there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here in this hour big picture reaction. What sense, Rob,

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Speaker 1: You've been doing it for three days already. I apologize too,

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Speaker 1: But what sense can each of us make of it

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Speaker 1: What sense can you make of what you saw Sunday?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that fans and my media brethren had to

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Speaker 1: watch this one in person. I got to just go

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Speaker 1: I was in Cabo celebrating my birthday. And Bobby Belt

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Speaker 1: pointed out this week, when somebody associated with the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: You know, you got Ze Tony Romo in the season.

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Speaker 1: just I tend to think, and I'm a glass half

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Speaker 1: Tyrren Smith is going to be there this weekend, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe an extra week of practice for Terrence and getting

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Speaker 1: just don't expect to repeat performance of this. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I went back and looked at the notes. They haven't

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Speaker 1: I tend to think that was one of those outlier games.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think, and I curious your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: little bit of a gut check, and as Michael Parson says,

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Speaker 1: you look at the NFCS and how close things are.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's react to Jane before we go to jewelry

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Speaker 1: and then Rob see at that point of view, I'm

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Speaker 1: it's happening at a good point in the season when

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Speaker 1: you look at the schedule ahead. Yeah, I think that again,

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Speaker 1: do you want this to happen? No, but I think

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Speaker 1: this is it wasn't like, Okay, they fumbled the ball

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Speaker 1: This was really across the board. This was a game

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Speaker 1: in which several people, including Mike McCarthy Dak Prescott, said

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Speaker 1: like a bit of a collective conspiracy, meaning that nobody

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Speaker 1: all of them just decided, you know, and there's nobody

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Speaker 1: the glass half full because I do think I think

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Speaker 1: that win in Minnesota, emotional win without Dak. Best defenses

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Speaker 1: the McCarthy era I think there may be a little

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Speaker 1: if that's just lack of focus or effort. I think

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Speaker 1: it was pressure upfront some of it too. And I

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Speaker 1: think given some of the injuries that Dak has had

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Speaker 1: this year, I'm not going to say that he's timid

430
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Speaker 1: or was consciously thinking about some of that stuff, but

431
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Speaker 1: he was under duress most of the game without question,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that that caused some timing, some

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Speaker 1: alignment issues. And I still feel like the move of

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Speaker 1: Tarrance still over there to left side. I mean, I

435
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Speaker 1: think he's done a really great job on the right,

436
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Speaker 1: but to assume that he can just add another thing

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Speaker 1: to his play, like I would have had a little

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Speaker 1: bit more confidence in Leal, who's been a veteran in

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Speaker 1: the league, played on the left side, and just continued

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Speaker 1: to keep Tarrance still on the right. That to me,

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Speaker 1: if you want to talk a little arrogance, maybe up like, oh,

442
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Speaker 1: we've done such a good job of getting him ready

443
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Speaker 1: for right, we can just easily slide him Overlop. You're

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Speaker 1: asking him to replace one of your best players on

445
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Speaker 1: the offensive line. That's tall task for kids. We're going

446
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Speaker 1: to get to that more specific here, just to wrap

447
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Speaker 1: up the general view, though, arrogance is not a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: Like you guys have all said, this is good for him.

449
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Speaker 1: It's good for Buffalo to go to Jacksonville and not

450
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Speaker 1: even show up. It was good for New England last

451
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Speaker 1: year to get run by the Saints thirty eight to three.

452
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Speaker 1: I think when they were six and two Bucks blocks

453
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Speaker 1: the Bucks lost to him backup quarterback in Trevor Simeons

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Speaker 1: and the Dome like that was a crazy way. It

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Speaker 1: is arrogance and the good teams have to fight it.

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Speaker 1: And that's what McCarthy's been talking about all along. Now

457
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Speaker 1: it's in their face. Now they're going to be hungrier

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Speaker 1: that you're allowed to slip again. It's why the best

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Speaker 1: golfers can shoot sixty three and then eighty three. They're

460
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Speaker 1: not as folks is period. And anyway, don't you think

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Speaker 1: that this group of players, I mean, Jay Ron Curse,

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, Layton Vander esh Dak Prescott, I mean, go

463
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Speaker 1: down the list. They are such a mentally stronger group

464
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Speaker 1: this year than the group we were talking about last year,

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Speaker 1: even treyvon Diggs. I look at the mindset of some

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Speaker 1: of these players, if you want to get in the

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Speaker 1: philosophical and the therapy sessions. I don't think that these

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Speaker 1: guys are hanging their heads in woe as me. If anything,

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Speaker 1: I think this is just hyper motivating to these guys

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Speaker 1: and it's fire in their belly. I just I look

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Speaker 1: at this group as a group that will really respond

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Speaker 1: to a loss like that. Maybe that's just me and

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Speaker 1: on that philosophical and I think we're this is getting

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Speaker 1: really philosophical. Get ready. I think we're oversimplifying the human psyche.

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Speaker 1: If we're just like this is just arrogance. Like sometimes

476
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Speaker 1: we're just a little bit off and it's not oh,

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Speaker 1: because we think we're so great. Like I woke up

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Speaker 1: But like sometimes it just happens, and I think that

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Speaker 1: be ready and it doesn't mean that like they just

482
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Speaker 1: Denver lately. Now, Jerry said he took Denver lightly, and

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Speaker 1: he said he had low confidence. He never thought he

484
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Speaker 1: was gonna lose, and then he felt like the players

485
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Speaker 1: played lackadaisical. But I think that it's just a little

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Speaker 1: more complex what mentally goes into. All right, let's let's

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Speaker 1: get to our break. I agree with you. That's why

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Speaker 1: I don't ever put it on the players. I think

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Speaker 1: your leader can't let that happen. I think that's I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that we thought that it could

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Speaker 1: Epstein's here, Rob Phillips is here. Now we can get

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Speaker 1: more specific off of the broad brush idea. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: will just be another game at the end of it,

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Speaker 1: we think, But it also makes you think, oh, could

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Speaker 1: they show that again? You also, when it matters you

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give away games if you if

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Speaker 1: you can, you don't want to be that off ever again,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's let's go for it. Go for it,

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Speaker 1: go for it. McCarthy defended it. He doesn't even can

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Speaker 1: see he was shocked at you guys when the question

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Speaker 1: was asked that it was an aggressive nature aggressive back too.

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Speaker 1: He was like, had someone tried to take me out,

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Speaker 1: I would have told them they couldn't. I needed to

548
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Speaker 1: be in there and this that's how you build character.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, if you're hurt, it's harder to build

550
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Speaker 1: character on the field, sir. All right, we'll mash that

551
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Speaker 1: up amongst the three of you. Where do you fall

552
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Speaker 1: on three? Well, was it three of the first four possessions?

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Speaker 1: He goes for it on fourth down? One or two

554
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: and two? Of them were on that side of the field.

555
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Speaker 1: One was on their own side. Go ahead, what are

556
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on McCarthy, he's turned into McVeagh, He's I

557
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Speaker 1: mean Staley, They're all just go, go go these days. Well,

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Speaker 1: who do we assign it to you? Because right Mike

559
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Speaker 1: McCarthy told me when I asked the question early in

560
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Speaker 1: the season, if you call it, you install it, or

561
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Speaker 1: if you install it, you call it. So is that

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Speaker 1: a Kellen and then you get a sign off from

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Speaker 1: Mike because when we talked about special teams in Fossil,

564
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Speaker 1: that's Fossil, not Mike McCarthy. So so how much blame

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Speaker 1: do we assign McCarthy there? Or you know, we don't

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Speaker 1: ever really not Kellen Moore. And I'm not saying he's

567
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Speaker 1: deserving of the finger pointing here, but is that a

568
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore thing? Is that a Kellen Moore decision? Or

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Speaker 1: is that a Mike decision? I don't know, do you

570
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Speaker 1: guys know? I think you always would fall on the

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Speaker 1: head coach when it's when it's a decision to go

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Speaker 1: for it, especially on that side of the field. I

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Speaker 1: don't Kellen comes up with his best play and that's yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would think that because he knows he's going to

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Speaker 1: have to answer you, guys, I would, but I would

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Speaker 1: say that we not the former regime for playing so vanilla,

577
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Speaker 1: so conservative and in some cases going forward is paid

578
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Speaker 1: off for this team. Uh and you know not again,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to not use the word arrogance because I

580
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: disagree with you on that. But I think what's a

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Speaker 1: better word. Let's come up with confidence has positive? Well,

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Speaker 1: confidence is completely positive. Arrogance is positive and negative. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with a little arrogive. What's positive about a

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with a little arity? Read the stoics

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Speaker 1: steroids true, true, All right, Well, I think confidence is

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Speaker 1: all positive. I'll bring you a Robert greenbook that talks

587
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Speaker 1: all about arrogance. But I think that's letting him off

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Speaker 1: the hook by comparing arrogance to confidence. Deep die, Yes,

589
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: it's semantics, because what makes arrogant negative is it's confidence

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Speaker 1: with with something else. This is the right though. I

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Speaker 1: I think given the confidence of this team, these players

592
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Speaker 1: truly believe that they'll be successful and converting on fourth down.

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Speaker 1: And so if you've got a team that's confident, and

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Speaker 1: you've got a coaching staff that believes in them and

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Speaker 1: they've shown you positive effects of going for it. I

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Speaker 1: can understand what they would, especially against this Broncos team

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Speaker 1: who early on you to Jerry Jones's credits that you

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Speaker 1: sort of overlooked all right, well all I mean I

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Speaker 1: think that they learned as the game went on, maybe

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Speaker 1: this is not a team. How are the discussions going

601
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Speaker 1: this week? And I'm curious what y'all think, Like, let's

602
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Speaker 1: say we were able to know statistically that they weren't

603
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Speaker 1: going to make most of their fourth down attempts, but

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Speaker 1: the confidence was going to give you all of these

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Speaker 1: other opportunities in the game. Because I believe then is

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Speaker 1: it worth it? Because I think so. If you're doing

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Speaker 1: something that shows your players that you believe in them,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't work in that moment, but the bigger picture,

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Speaker 1: it net raises the team and its ability. I agree.

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Speaker 1: That's actually a good point. Mike has actually said that too.

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Speaker 1: You want to instill belief in your players now you're

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Speaker 1: you're the head coach. Ultimately you have to scale it

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Speaker 1: back if you think it don't think it's even if

614
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Dak's pushing you to do it. If you don't think

615
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Speaker 1: it's right, that's your call and it's your responsibility, all right,

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Speaker 1: But I had the whole league is doing this. The

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Speaker 1: whole league is going for it more than they ever have.

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Speaker 1: It's not arena football yet, but it's it's the way

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Speaker 1: it's going. McCarthy's always been this way, in part because

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Speaker 1: he's always had a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: now he's got Dak Prescott who's becoming a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I had no problem with the first one. Second one.

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Speaker 1: I might have taken the points, but it was there.

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Speaker 1: If if Dak makes a better throw that he can

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Speaker 1: make in his sleep to Cedric Wilson, it's a conversion.

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Speaker 1: And we're not talking about this. I would say on

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Speaker 1: the road last weekend with the backup quarterback, you've got

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Speaker 1: all the confidence in the world in this team. I

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Speaker 1: would say the arrogance came up on the second one

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Speaker 1: because you didn't think the three points mattered. It's a

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Speaker 1: scoreless game and you're telling the other team are three

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Speaker 1: points don't matter. That's fair, that's see that. That is

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Speaker 1: something other than confidence. And plus it was a worth

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Speaker 1: and two at the twenty, and now Denver does get

635
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Speaker 1: some energy from that. And they did because they went

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Speaker 1: right down the field. And I think that there is

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00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: there is a fine line there. I'm with all of

638
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: you on that, UM, And yeah, I would I would

639
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: not like to be called arrogant, because I don't think

640
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: I've ever been that. I've always been confident. So I

641
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, UM, but I think there you're

642
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: just telling Denver three points don't matter, get the lead

643
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: and play a football game instead of thinking that you're

644
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: playing a middle ing team. And that's the kind of

645
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: stuff that Jason Garrett got killed for though. That's what

646
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: I've just been saying ten years. Well. He was too

647
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: considered out, a little sassy, lesson, too conservative, predictable. It's right,

648
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: it's right. If it works, it's right, and we're not

649
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: talking about it. And my thing is, it's one thing

650
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: if you say, like, I just need you to believe

651
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: in what you're doing the whole time, like I don't

652
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: want you to waiver and be like if it failed,

653
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: like you're right, we were wrong. And I was just

654
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: looking back at this, This is from I was gonna

655
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: have you guys guess what game is. But I'll just

656
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: tell you so McCarthy saying the conservative play, there's to

657
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: kick the field goal I clearly recognized as a three

658
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: point game. I just felt it would have been a

659
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: huge momentum play for us, and we want to have

660
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: the mindset he was saying that first game of his

661
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys tenure, when they went for it on fourth down

662
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: at the Rams week one last year and it didn't work,

663
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what, he's standing by it,

664
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: and I respect that, and I think that that belief system,

665
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: even though it at times seemed crazy last year when

666
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: they were losing all these games and they didn't have

667
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Dak and COVID and injuries, he's stuck with and you

668
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: got to give him some credit for how it's worked

669
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: this year. And I even you know, going back to

670
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: his disbelief in players, I mean, your belief that Terrence

671
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: still is so good at right, you're not giving well

672
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: his job back, Like what does that do for a

673
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: second year player, or were you not giving him his

674
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: job back or were you saying, like, ease into it

675
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, because but I think the message was

676
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: very clear that we're a competitive team now. But to me,

677
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: for the second year player, that's pretty significant. Given what

678
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: you're paying Lel Collins and what he did there at

679
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: left tackle to say, we're gonna sit you, Dak while

680
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: we go on the road and play this NFC team,

681
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: But we believe in you, Cooper Rush, you know, I

682
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: just I looking kind of And then the fact like

683
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: j Rod Curse, we're going to literally give you the dot,

684
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, not late Vanders, she's done it. We're gonna

685
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: let Cedric Wilson go another couple of weeks. But I

686
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: think those those small things start to add up. So

687
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: when I talked early in the season, I don't know

688
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: what Mike has done to contribute to the success of

689
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: this team. I think we're beginning to see some of

690
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: those things absolutely, and we've been talking about him every show.

691
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: This one we get to talk about some things that

692
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: didn't work, and that's okay too. All I'm saying is

693
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: McCarthy needs to understand what kind of game he's in.

694
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: I can speak. I won't mention their name. My college

695
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: team has a very aggressive head coach who goes for

696
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: it on for it down. He doesn't care where the

697
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: hell the ball is on the field. He's not gonna

698
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: do it against a team that's ranked number four in

699
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: the country. He's going to show arrogance and do it

700
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: to a lesser team, and he needs to be careful.

701
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is McCarthy might have just taken

702
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: the approach that Denver's a middling five hundred team averaging

703
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: nineteen points six points a game, and he got caught

704
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: by it. But does stats tell you that right like

705
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: dats are telling you right to go for it? There? Yeah,

706
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: And then he had the little war with Fangio said that, well,

707
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: other teams haven't played him the right way, and I'm

708
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: in charge of that, so of course we did. And

709
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: then McCarthy says, well, nice to him to get a

710
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: little carried away with himself there. So we're going to

711
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: blueprint talk now you want to go to blue Let's

712
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: go to Dak talk first again? Blueprint? Okay, Dak fighting, fighting,

713
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: fighting onward when they're down thirty to nothing on their

714
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: final two possessions, let's mash that up. Where are we

715
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: on that? Jory? Look, if you're going to tell us

716
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: during training camp or saving Dak from Dak, why did

717
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: you not say Dac from Dak in the fourth quarter? Yes,

718
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: I think that if I were Dac, I'd feel the

719
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: same way. I want to be out there. I want

720
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: to be out there every play. I want to be

721
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: doing everything, and it's the coach's job to say no, Like,

722
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: you're coming off all of these injuries, there's a reason

723
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: we didn't play you last week, and it's not worth it,

724
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: or at the very least, maybe one of those two

725
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: series with adjusted play calls. But when he's like keeping

726
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: it for the two point conversion at that point in

727
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: the game, I just don't believe that your confidence in

728
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: that moment is going to carry over the next game

729
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: that intently. And I will end that by saying I

730
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: forgot what I was going to say, so I'll just

731
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: end that. Sign that for me, pretend like it's your book.

732
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: I tend to agree it's it's it's yeah, can I

733
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: get a signed copy to me. It's like the fourth

734
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: downs calls, like if it works, then it's it's the

735
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: right decision. If he were to get hurt in that situation,

736
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: my god, can you imagine what the reaction would be

737
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: to that. You know, like he was healthy enough to

738
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: play in the game. He looked fine, running around more

739
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: than you needed to because of the pressure. But yeah,

740
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: I thought they would keep him in the game until

741
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: they scored and saved the shutout, because you don't what

742
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: was it going to be the first shutout at home

743
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: since ninety one or something like that. It was significant.

744
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Nobody wants that. Players don't want it, coaches don't want

745
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: it thirty years. Yeah, I was surprised that they kept

746
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: Dak in after that. I agree with all everything that

747
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: you guys are saying. I think that was particularly because

748
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: of the offensive line and like I said, the fact

749
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: that he was running for his life in that game.

750
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: I just didn't understand why you run the risk of injury.

751
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: And to Jerry's point, I understand Dak's perspective, but it

752
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: doesn't add up when you're like, you're keeping him out

753
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: of the preseason to make sure he's fully killed. You

754
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: keep him out of the Minnesota game, even though he

755
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: was barking at you to play. I mean, that guy

756
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: was that. I don't care what anyone said that week.

757
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: I had heard that they had told players even as

758
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: Relil since Saturday Cooper rushed your guy, Dak in his

759
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: mind had not had his mind made up. But he

760
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: don't have to be a hero Dack either, And I

761
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: think sometimes Dak feels like he has to be and

762
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that makes him great, and that's

763
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: why so many people follow him in that locker room.

764
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: But that would have been a situation where you're like,

765
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: you know what, we didn't win the battle, but will

766
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: win the war. This is what I about what we

767
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: do in media because I loved it. I'm against all

768
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: three of you on this. Why and I will turn

769
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: this on you. What would it have looked like down

770
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: thirty to nothing for Dak to quit? He's not I'm

771
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: just saying he's not on the field and you're running

772
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush out there. But I think people would have

773
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: gone like this, that is smart. A lot of football

774
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: left to play. Why is Dak any more important than

775
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: Zach markin right? If you had no postseason goals, you

776
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: keep Dak in there. I think taking him out would

777
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: have been a sign, like it was when they held

778
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: him out of the Vikings game, that they believe in

779
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: their postseason or trying to think big picture instead of

780
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: just in that moment. Not many of us had a

781
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: problem with it. I would have sat him this week too, honestly,

782
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: even though he's ready to go two points. The NFL

783
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: is famous for this. You start a game, you're finishing it.

784
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: It's very rare that players come off the field. Even

785
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: if you're losing thirty seven to nothing. The starting quarterback

786
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: will go out the last possession. They don't bench people

787
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL by result, which is wonderful. I love

788
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: that you start the fight, you finished the fight. Because

789
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Dak is no different than the other ten guys out there.

790
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Makes a lot of money on Steve, hang on, hang on,

791
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: hang on, you said a few weeks ago, the Achilles

792
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: heel of this team is if he were to get

793
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: hurts time well, so he doesn't mean you don't ever

794
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: play for injury once they're on the field, You don't ever,

795
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: you don't ever let it enter your mind. And Mary

796
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: Cooper periodically pulls himself out of the game to manage

797
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: his That's one of my problems with a mari. But

798
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: just another day, Steve has a problem with someone that's shocked. No,

799
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: but here's the second point. It is McCarthy's right. He's right,

800
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: they needed it, they need What would you be saying

801
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: right now if Dak got hurt and was at the

802
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: next part very unfortunate and what moral victory do you

803
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: get from sixteen points in garbage time and dually softer

804
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: you that you need that series to have confidence. The

805
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: next week we shout out sixteen all it's all bad.

806
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: Get inside, Dak' said for a minute, we agree that. No,

807
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait, yeah, you know what a competitor

808
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: he is. You're gonna tell him that the rest of

809
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: his team's going out there and they're getting me thirty

810
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: to nothing, and he's gonna go get coddled over here.

811
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Jones told us he's got to protect him from himself.

812
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: Ari and CD already off there. Yeah, yeah, okay, stayed in,

813
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: but not everybody. Yeah, and the line stayed in. So

814
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: I think Zach was in. Yeah, I think so, yeah,

815
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: but not everybody. Not the whole start in my offense

816
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: was in there. Like if you're trying to get reps

817
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: with importing guys, I wish Malik Turner the best. I

818
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: think that my dad is extremely excited about what he

819
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: did last week for me, Ask me this morning, what's

820
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: going to happen with the leak this week? So there's

821
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: interest there. That said, I don't think that we're building

822
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: chemistry among your starters by Dak throwing two touchdowns to

823
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: the leak. Right, Well, I do think it is a

824
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: bit of you know, I hate to use phrases like this.

825
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: It's a bit of an old school mentality. Once you

826
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: start to fight, you finish it. Maybe it's an NFL thing,

827
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: like you said, you finish the fight at the end

828
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: of the season. But again, to me, it's like, but

829
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: if that lost the battle, but you don't have to

830
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: lose the war. But if he's up, he's up, and

831
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: he was up, he played the game, so he stays

832
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: in the game. Now, that's kind of the way the

833
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: NFL does it. But I like what they gained in

834
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: those two possessions. But you know what a little face

835
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: you could gain meaningful playing time for Cooper Rush. It

836
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt to have a backup quarterback with live, true experience.

837
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: That's true too, So you could have actually gained something meaningful.

838
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: At what would that have done for the team if

839
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: he was able to score again? Yeah, and you're in

840
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: you're seeing they're going, you know what we're creating depth

841
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: of these positions. I love the warrior nature of it

842
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: with Dak though I applauded. I'm glad a boy, Dak

843
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: you get out there and finishing. But there's no doubt

844
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: in any of our mind that would. But I think

845
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: it just goes back to managing your players. Because of

846
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: what you said the week before, I think a lot

847
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: of us agreed that it was a good decision to

848
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: sit Dack in Minnesota. I would have just applied the

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Speaker 1: you wrote on the website today and you're three and

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Speaker 1: out about the blueprint. Everybody's talking about the blueprint. I

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Speaker 1: think it's funny. What exactly is the blueprint? The Cowboys

912
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Speaker 1: just play as bad collectively as they possibly can. That

913
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Speaker 1: that's the blueprint Atlanta's hoping for. What is the blueprint?

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Speaker 1: I put I put blueprint in air quotes because I'm

915
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Speaker 1: tired of hearing the word blueprint. Look, they can't play

916
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: this poorly and can expect to go to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They cannot. And some of it is what Denver did

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Speaker 1: to them. But I'll just say this, Vic Fangio is

919
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: a great coach, He's a great defensive mind. But the

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Speaker 1: match man coverage is not the first time Dak Prescott

921
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Speaker 1: has seen that. That is not something completely foreign and

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Speaker 1: new to him. To Jane's point, there were other factors

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Speaker 1: I think that allowed Denver to play that as well

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Speaker 1: as they did, namely Tyrn Smith not being in the game,

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Speaker 1: Denver got consistent pressure with a four man rush. You

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Speaker 1: do that, you can beat the best quarterbacks in the game.

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Speaker 1: That has not been something that the Cowboys have allowed

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Speaker 1: a lot of this season, and so I think you

929
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Speaker 1: have to put that into effect. When you think about, oh,

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Speaker 1: they found a way to beat the Cowboys, I don't

931
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Speaker 1: know if that's the case. I think most teams it

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Speaker 1: requires a lot of great communication and talent and discipline

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Speaker 1: to play that match man zone coverage, and not every

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Speaker 1: team can do it. And I think if most teams,

935
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Speaker 1: if you're going to gamble playing man coverage against this offense,

936
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Speaker 1: I think it's going to cause some problems. And I

937
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are gonna have success. That's why you

938
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Speaker 1: hear multiple guys saying, yeah, bring it, I want to

939
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Speaker 1: see more man coverage. That's fine with us. Pick the poison. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree with that. I do think that

941
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys hook could have gotten themselves a little bit

942
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Speaker 1: more help with Zeke upfront, utilize the tight ends a

943
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: little bit better. But I wouldn't be surprised if we

944
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Speaker 1: start seeing a little bit more of that this week.

945
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Speaker 1: I think it also helps that you're playing in Atlanta

946
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: Falcons team who has literally the lowest sack in the

947
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Speaker 1: league right now, so they have a really hard time

948
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Speaker 1: getting pressure upfront, whereas I think the Cowboys have only

949
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: allowed fourteen, tied for second in the league. I think

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Speaker 1: was what I was looking at so defensively, I think

951
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: that this team is going to be a little bit easier.

952
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: And you've got to think Dan Quinn, who spent six

953
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Speaker 1: seasons there, fired after five years when he said, we've

954
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Speaker 1: got to worry about our We've got stuff to worry

955
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Speaker 1: about this week versus the memory lane. I believe that,

956
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, that gives him a little extra motivation, a

957
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: little extra sauce. This Falcons team has certainly turned the corner.

958
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: But I just don't I just I tend to think

959
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys beat themselves more than the Broncos beat them. Yeah.

960
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. I think for so many games

961
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: we were like, it's almost easy to forget that to

962
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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence isn't here, and that Michael Gallup isn't here,

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Speaker 1: and that I guess at one point let L. Collins

964
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Speaker 1: isn't here because guys were rising around them in this game.

965
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Speaker 1: It was like we could have used to Marcus to

966
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Speaker 1: set the edge, like they needed a reliable jeep there

967
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Speaker 1: to Michael Gallup and don't forget Gallimore, Yeah Gallop, I

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Speaker 1: mean Oss. I think os has done a really good

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Speaker 1: true but he may be able to help saw him

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Speaker 1: against the rhyme. Yeah, he'll help. But I think that

971
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: that one was less specific to this game, and I

972
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: think it was a reminder like some of these things

973
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 1: make a difference in the game plan, and the Broncos

974
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: did a really good job exploiting that. I think one

975
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: thing that's interesting I don't have the data in front

976
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Speaker 1: of me, was how d has been so good against

977
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Speaker 1: the blitz of the season and they chose not to then.

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00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: I almost it's like one of those things where like

979
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Speaker 1: sometimes the hard things are easier than the easier situations,

980
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: and I think that the Broncos kind of reverse time.

981
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: They're like, Okay, if he's great, and what should be

982
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: a more difficult situation, let's not try him on that.

983
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Speaker 1: I think when you're talking about a blueprint and this

984
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Speaker 1: is why I like your work today on Dallas Cowboys

985
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: dot Com and go read it everybody, Steve, because you

986
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: pointed out the two areas. If I were to ask

987
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Speaker 1: the question, Okay, what do you think from this game

988
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: sticks or what are you worried sticks about this performance?

989
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: And I think you nailed it. It's stopping the run.

990
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: You're talking about Melvin Gordon and Javanta Williams, who have

991
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: been a duo all year, very mediocre. They're average in

992
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: a hundred yards a game together, and they go for

993
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: one ninety and Ordeville Patterson's going to be a tough

994
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: one to defend against Steak and you've got, you know,

995
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts to think about off intively. But if you

996
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: want to talk about ground game, Cordella Patterson's had a

997
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: year well, and he actually catches the ball morning he

998
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: runs it. I mean he's hybrid is He's a running

999
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: back who's playing wideress and they create well, yeah, they

1000
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: created a ton of mismatches with Patterson and Pitts is

1001
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: not a tight end. He's a wide receiver who lines

1002
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: up by the sideline more than he does he's an

1003
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: edge player. But the other point was the other thing

1004
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: that could stick is what Jane's been talking about this

1005
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Speaker 1: entire hour, and that is what is the offensive line

1006
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Speaker 1: going to be without tyring? And it could be a

1007
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: reality for who knows how many games going forward and

1008
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: the offensive line now I think it was. It was

1009
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: accentuated by the fact that Dak had an awful game

1010
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: for him. Usually, Dak can figure out some things and

1011
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: make the offensive line look better even when it's playing poorly,

1012
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: and he didn't do that in this game. Now, the

1013
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: lack of possessions had a lot to do with it.

1014
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: Dad couldn't get into a rhythm. Anytime you've only got

1015
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: the ball for eighteen minutes in a football game, your

1016
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: offense is gonna struggle in getting a rhythm. And that's

1017
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: why the fourth down tries hurt you double and the

1018
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: drops hurt you double because you're ending six or let's

1019
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: say that would be four or five of the eight

1020
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: possessions you did it. But anyway, what do you guys

1021
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: think sticks sticks about this performance or concerned you that

1022
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: could rear its ugly head again when it matters later

1023
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: and leave the offensive line in the run game out

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Speaker 1: of it because Rob already took those anything else? Is

1025
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: there something about this game that you're afraid you will

1026
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: see again? Or Cowboys nations should be afraid that they

1027
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: will see again when it matters later. I just think, again,

1028
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: going back to their body of work this season, I

1029
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of faith that we're not going to

1030
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: see that type of game out of them again. This

1031
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: year old takes exposed. Come for me if if I'm wrong,

1032
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: I just I think you're right. It was so bad

1033
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: that there may be a bit of it. I just

1034
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: don't expect them to play that sort of game. But

1035
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: I just keep going back to the office of the line.

1036
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: They have got to figure that situation out because I

1037
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: what concerns me about Tyron Smith is we had some

1038
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: injuries popping up in camp. We started to see some

1039
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: of the injuries last season in the year before. That

1040
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: left side has sort of been a problem for them

1041
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: every time he's gotten injured. That's the area I think

1042
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: that could rear its head and hurt them moving forward

1043
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: if they don't figure out something to not replace Tyron,

1044
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: but at least be serviceable. Here's the other part of

1045
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: that too, Sorry real quick, just to piggyback on that,

1046
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: is that he's day to day, week to week right now,

1047
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. We'll see. If you

1048
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: know they're going to have to prepare to play without

1049
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: him this week. Again, we'll see if he could find

1050
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: a way to get get back up in the lineup

1051
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: this week. If not. The bottom line is they got

1052
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Speaker 1: the rest of this month. They got four games in

1053
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: eighteen days something. That's a tricky schedule. That's a lot

1054
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: of to ask him to try to play on a

1055
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: bad ankle. So how do they how do they manage that?

1056
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see. And it's not just the ankle,

1057
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Speaker 1: it's the bone spurs. I think that are the problem

1058
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: that are contributing to all of this, And so it's

1059
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more complicated than you know. He's going

1060
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: to kind of sort this way at this thing out

1061
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: because I mean, we're dealing with all sorts of calfine

1062
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: ankle injuries on this team. Um, I just don't I

1063
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: think this one's going to be a little bit of

1064
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: a lingering one. Well, maybe they go back to considering

1065
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: Terrence back to right tackle and ly, oh maybe, I

1066
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: don't know, is going to be that much stronger at

1067
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: left tackle. I think that he's parents at least has

1068
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: been getting the practice reps in the league. I'm not

1069
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: saying he's tiring, and he knows that and he's doing

1070
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: his best. But I think that this decision is not

1071
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: just about wanting the best at right tackle. I think

1072
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: it's there are questions in the organization about what, after

1073
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: not practicing at left tackle in years, can do it well.

1074
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: Your swinging tackle is supposed to be able to play both.

1075
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: If Terrence can't, I would have more faith in a

1076
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl type talent like Lyell to maybe figure it

1077
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: out and help your team more. They might also feel

1078
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: like the younger second year guy is doing everything he

1079
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: can to prove his work to the organization and might

1080
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: be a little bit more highly motivated to excel on

1081
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: the left side as opposed to Lyall who chooses the

1082
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: right wants the right no different than Zach Martin who

1083
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: doesn't want to switch to the other side. I'm not

1084
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: saying that he purposely wouldn't be great at that position,

1085
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: but you kind of want to be a master. You

1086
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: don't want to be a jack of all trades master

1087
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: of none, and he's sort of been the master at

1088
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: his particular position, and so maybe they feel like Terrence

1089
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: just might be more motivated on that side. Do we

1090
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: see ty and Secki, I haven't gotten a lot of

1091
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: great reviews about him from inside the building, but I

1092
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: know that he's a guy that they've at least kicked around,

1093
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: and he's played left tackle for them. It's interesting. I

1094
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: don't know if they'd want to hurt Terrence's confidence. It's

1095
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: it's just to say Tyron doesn't play this week. Let's

1096
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: just say that. I don't know if they'd want to switch.

1097
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: I think McCarthy did something last week he doesn't normally do,

1098
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: and that's change out to spots. So I think for Condon,

1099
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: funny he told us that he wasn't going to do

1100
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: that stuff. No right, And so even if it's short

1101
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: term continuity, if Tyron misses another game or two, whatever

1102
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: it is, keep that continuity and just keep keep the

1103
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: tackles the way you got it, and hopefully they build

1104
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: together over the next week hover long you need it.

1105
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I tend to think that they're going

1106
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: to stick with what they went with last week and

1107
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: just hope an extra week of practice. And you know,

1108
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: Tyron's been really good at mentoring these guys in the

1109
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: offensive line room. If you if you, I mean, even

1110
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: if going back, if you talk about Joe Looney and

1111
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. I gotta think Tyron's spending a lot of

1112
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: time with these guys if he can't go, and so

1113
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: maybe an extra week helps them. I asked Terrence about

1114
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: that last week, and he was talking about the nuggets

1115
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: at Tyrn was giving him at practice, and I was like,

1116
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I told him. I was like, look,

1117
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: we hear a lot about Tyrant's physicality, his athleticism. Zeke

1118
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: called him. I think he said last week that he

1119
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: looks like an action figure, plays like a superhero. I'm like,

1120
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: but tell us about how well he has mastered that game,

1121
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: and that's a really big deal in terms of how

1122
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: this line is working together. I think what I think about.

1123
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: We referenced earlier the Cowboys Falcons game in twenty seventeen

1124
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: that Jerry has referred to as the Bernie of Atlanta

1125
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: Chad Green and there all of the sacks for Dak

1126
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: and one of the things that the coaching staff got

1127
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: knocked for in that game was just not making adjustments.

1128
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: So no one expects you to be able to replace

1129
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith with another player. It's extremely hard to find one,

1130
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: much less two of those in the NFL. But give

1131
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: him a little bit of help if he's not all

1132
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: the way there. Like, he's doing some good things and

1133
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: I think he'll do even more this week, but have

1134
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: more tight ends there, have Zeke chipping more like, consider

1135
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: which direction your run plays are going if you think

1136
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: that that's a problem, and just do something. Because like

1137
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: you were saying about Dak under duress coming off the injuries,

1138
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: even if it's not conscious, make it so Dak shouldn't

1139
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 1: have to be thinking about whether he's got that protection

1140
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: on the left. Yeah, you can't. No matter how good

1141
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: tyring is. This team is too good for your left

1142
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: tackle being out to ruin your offense. Great, and that

1143
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: could be the thing that is going to be stuck

1144
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: in everybody's heads. Okay, they couldn't run it or pass it.

1145
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: They couldn't get first downs, they couldn't possess the ball.

1146
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: You run into the good teams later when it all matters. Man,

1147
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: are you just hoping Tyrn's going to be there? No,

1148
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: you have to have a contingency plan if he's not. Well.

1149
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: Here's one thing to the Falcons, because I was doing

1150
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: some research on them. They are one of the worst

1151
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: at defending against quick passes. Dat Prescott is one of

1152
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: the best in the league. So the key here is

1153
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: to give him at least the protection there and that

1154
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: because what is this drop back time? I forgot it was.

1155
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean it's like third best in the league. Oh yeah,

1156
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: if he can just get the ball out quick, they've struggled.

1157
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: I think the one thing I'm keeping an eye on

1158
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: is Dante Fuller has come back from his knee injury,

1159
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: and they've done a pretty good job upfront. I guess

1160
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that, but Lois low

1161
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: sac for five games, n't. But he's returned to practice.

1162
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: As we know. They're saying that doesn't mean anything, but

1163
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: Dante Foller could give you some fits. What if it

1164
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: means given it more help to that right side than

1165
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: they'll figure that out. The offense is too good. But

1166
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: let me ask this and then we got you gotta

1167
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: go walk out in the rain, Jane, like you feared

1168
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: because I just heard I just heard thunder? Um joy?

1169
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: Are they still a Super Bowl contender in your mind

1170
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: even though they played that badly against Denver? I mean,

1171
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: look at last week, what was it? The Rams, the Bills,

1172
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? I guess what the Packers. Yeah. I mean,

1173
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: like teams are losing, it's gonna happen. You're not going

1174
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: to go undefeated. You're going to be better for it.

1175
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: You are still a super Bowl contender. I think it's

1176
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: just a reminder things aren't as perfect as they might

1177
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: have seemed with the perception a week ago. And that's

1178
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: a good thing because now you're more aware of what

1179
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: your weaknesses are, how teams will exploit them, and now

1180
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: you go fix it, and that's exciting. Robert, I do.

1181
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: I think so. I think the NFC is really deep

1182
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: and talented and it's going to be a fun playoffs.

1183
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: But I think they're in the mix. In part we

1184
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: know about the offense and they're not going to be

1185
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: this bad again. I don't believe that defensively. I've mentioned

1186
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: it earlier. They're they're young, they're inexperience, they've been banged up,

1187
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: but yet they're they're still ascending. They I mean, this

1188
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: last game, notwithstanding, you see the progress, and I think

1189
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: they're really well coached. They're going to get some guys back,

1190
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: and that's maybe a big reason why at the end

1191
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: of this thing they're going to be in the mix.

1192
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: Slater Jane. For me, it always goes back to the

1193
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: mindset of this group. I've got so much confidence in

1194
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: these guys, and I didn't last year. I thought they

1195
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: were really mentally weak last year. There's a lot of

1196
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: give up I haven't. I mean, think how many times

1197
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: that these guys have had the game final possession, penalties

1198
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: up against you know, backs up against the wall early

1199
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: in the game, and the way that they've come out swinging.

1200
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: So for me, it's not only the talent and the

1201
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: youth of this group, it's their mental makeup and their

1202
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: mental mindset. And again, I was just covering that Saints

1203
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: Bucks game. Tom Brady throws his first pick six and

1204
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 1: regulation against a hampered uh Saints team. Inside the dumm

1205
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: it was so loud, it was like a playoff atmosphere.

1206
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: So some of your best teams are going to have

1207
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: bad weeks. I don't think one game defines you. If

1208
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: they lose to the Falcons this week, then I think

1209
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: we're having a different conversation on media match. I agree

1210
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: with all three of you. The only thing I would

1211
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: worry about is the idea that they're acting like they've

1212
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: arrived and that they had the same conversation about Amari

1213
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: Cooper's comments. That is a fair stay. I forgot about that.

1214
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: That is a fair statement. As soon as a team

1215
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: sort of acts like they've already arrived, which is what

1216
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: McCarthy has been worried about since the success hasn't been

1217
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: worried about it. He has mentioned it, mentioned it because

1218
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: he's taken teams the distance. Hey, can you tell us

1219
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: who you think is acting like you? Just kind of

1220
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: collectively they're a young, hungry team, but who they've got

1221
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: a lot of youth. H And when you when you

1222
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: show up and forget to tackle when you show up

1223
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: and make drops when you show up and every single

1224
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: thing that you do so easily you're not doing. That's

1225
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: the only fear I would have. I agree with all

1226
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: of you. There's yourself. Never have a bad day the

1227
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: show because mistakes. Hey, hey, guys, this was Denver. There's

1228
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: not a Cowboys fan out there that thought the cow

1229
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team could look that bad. And no one

1230
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: thought they could look that good against a Minnesota team

1231
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: on the road at the backup quarterbacks. I thought Cooper

1232
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: Cooper start fresh with it last sure it did. I

1233
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: wanted to see Cooper rush in that game. Remember last

1234
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: week I said, let's see him, they'll be fine. It's different.

1235
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: It's it's just different. So it's Steve is a confident

1236
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: in is very It is very fair to throw that out.

1237
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: Don't act like you've arrived. Go back to work. But

1238
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, you're gonna have to show me who

1239
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: has made you feel like they've arrived. Well, the result

1240
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: shows you that the result could show you. I think

1241
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: the fan base thinks it's right, agreed, but that doesn't

1242
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: mean the players are coached acting all right, Well, then

1243
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: don't don't show up like this again. Okay, okay, why

1244
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: don't we reserve judgment for this weekend? Well it'll be

1245
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 1: ten more of them, right, ten nine nine more of them? Yeah,

1246
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: I think until judge it every week until further notice.

1247
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: It was a hiccup. Now see what happens Sunday at noon.

1248
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: And let's also understand that it's going to be such

1249
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: a good You're going to continue to be such a

1250
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: good debt. Let's thank you. Let's also talk about what

1251
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about here in terms of expectation level. We've

1252
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: seen how good this team can be. We thought they

1253
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: were pretty good in twenty eighteen until the Rams ran

1254
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: right over them. So you're looking at things big picture

1255
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: down the road. Is this team going to be a

1256
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: defense that a good team can run for one hundred

1257
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: and ninety yards? Yeah? No, it certainly helps in the

1258
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: Rams keep stacking the roster with guys like von Miller

1259
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: in the all I mean, sometimes I wonder how many

1260
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: picks they've given up. Where do they find this cap

1261
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: space they've gotten. Really they're really leveraging their future in

1262
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: my opinion. But no, yeah, they're all in. It's wild

1263
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: to me another conversation we could have. No, they did.

1264
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: But that's why it's complimentary, Steve, because the defense needs. Look,

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Speaker 1: the offense controlling the time of possession, getting leads. That

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Speaker 1: helps the defense. It wasn't that now. The Devas did

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Speaker 1: a great job in a tight game against Minnesota. Didn't

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Speaker 1: work out this way. But that's why I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to take all three phases. To quote Jason Garrett,

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Speaker 1: you get this thing still. That's a huge point is

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Speaker 1: that one of the reasons we forget that this defense

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Speaker 1: isn't quite a finished product is because they're playing from ahead.

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Speaker 1: Because opposing offenses have had to do a certain way.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been able to run as much and then

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Speaker 1: you start to see what happens. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: a good reminder. If he hate dancin, here's where we

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Speaker 1: could well. Last time you were on the show, you

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Speaker 1: you were concerned about the big plays the defense was

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Speaker 1: given up. What six of them? Yeah? I think six six,

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Speaker 1: like a hundred what was that one hundred game? We

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Speaker 1: have six explosive runs, but including the forty four yard

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Speaker 1: passing touchdown, all of that, I think their six longest

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Speaker 1: placement for one hundred and seventy nine yards just like

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Speaker 1: twenty nine point eight years. We're playing the rest of

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Speaker 1: the place, like sixty three of them were three points

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Speaker 1: were nothing? Yeah, and that's something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 1: But we will. We'll be here tomorrow. You will tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We've got at We've got matches. He's tomorrow and I chill.

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Speaker 1: I saw a chill. He was all down on his

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Speaker 1: dabber that he wasn't on today, but he'll be on tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: poor chill. He bought his dad a hat in the shop.

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Speaker 1: What was that? Down down on his dapper? Does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Is that not a good phrase? I've never heard. I've

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Speaker 1: never heard, he never heard being down on your daughter.

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Speaker 1: That's that's kind of means that you're, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of kind of the way the Cowboys played anywhere, down

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Speaker 1: on your dabber. We want to thank the rookie, Chris Beam.

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Speaker 1: He's been her twenty forty years, still a rookie. Thanks

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Speaker 1: Beamer uh and thank all of you and Cowboys Nation

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Speaker 1: for listening. Thank you guys for letting me check Cowboys

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Speaker 1: for another day. We'll do it again, aim are at

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Speaker 1: four o'clock. Bye bye. This has been a production of

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