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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is an exclusive

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Speaker 1: presentation of Dallas Cowboys Breaking News. Welcome to a special

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Speaker 1: addition of a podcast. I guess today after the first

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Speaker 1: round of the draft, and boy, what a hodgepodge of

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Speaker 1: talent do we have on this thing, if you can

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Speaker 1: even call this talent. But we have some experts and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we all have big feelings in this room.

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Speaker 1: Just raise a hands, just real quick before I introduce you, guys,

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Speaker 1: who who's Who's okay with the pick? Okay? Who's good

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Speaker 1: with the pick? Who likes the pick? Okay? All right,

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Speaker 1: well I will introduce you to everyone that likes good

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Speaker 1: That will be Rob hell Ups, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Welcome to the show. Rob, welcome, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: bless me, thank you. Uh Isaiah stand back? Is he

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Speaker 1: likes to pick? Nick? Eveman? What is good with the pick?

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Speaker 1: Good with the pick? You like to pick? You picked

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Speaker 1: a man in the magazine as you're or on the

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Speaker 1: website as you're Yeah, I thought's what I thought they

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Speaker 1: we'll see if you like it. But the thing is

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Speaker 1: is we need to talk about like this whole notion

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Speaker 1: of well they could have got him in the second round,

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Speaker 1: that's a bunch of crap, Like they weren't gonna get him.

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Speaker 1: They needed aligneman. He wasn't gonna be there and and

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Speaker 1: they that's who they needed to get. They must get alignement.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what steven of them said. They needed

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Speaker 1: Need must semantics. They needed a lineman. They needed a

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Speaker 1: guy who could play guard or at least compete right

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Speaker 1: away at guard um. But Nick Nick brings up a

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Speaker 1: good point because I think fans, maybe fans think that

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Speaker 1: they've got thirty two first round grades every year. They

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Speaker 1: that's why he said he's a first round player in

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Speaker 1: our minds because we couldn't have waited. I couldn't have you.

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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, I was told he was the Tyler Smith

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Speaker 1: He was the highest rated player on their board, and

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Speaker 1: obviously it was a bigger need and is Saia. I'll

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Speaker 1: you do you weren't ready to replace him yet, right,

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Speaker 1: you knew he hasn't been bad enough for you to

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Speaker 1: somebody else on the left side that can learn from Tyrn. Right,

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Speaker 1: the beast every year. He studies all these guys. He knows,

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Speaker 1: Big nasty doesn't necessarily mean like just a big physical man.

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Speaker 1: run the ball last year. Do we agree on that.

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Speaker 1: Now we have a quarterback that had a couple of issues,

426
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Speaker 1: and camp had a couple of issues during the season.

427
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Speaker 1: You might want to kind of keep him upright, right,

428
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Speaker 1: He's a guy that you want around here and healthy.

429
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Speaker 1: Guess what you need to make sure that he feels

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Speaker 1: confident and secure standing up there in the dog on

431
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Speaker 1: pocket to be able to deliver the ball to all

432
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Speaker 1: these receivers. And I'm sure they're gonna grab some more

433
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Speaker 1: that they have in this locker room. So if you

434
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Speaker 1: can't secure the line of scrimmage, and control the line

435
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, because you're gonna be playing against seven hundred

436
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Speaker 1: pounds of grown men when you play against Fifth Philly.

437
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 1: Just in their two just in their two techniques right there,

438
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Speaker 1: right inside inside the gaps, you're gonna have seven hundred pounds.

439
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Speaker 1: If you can't block that up, what do you think

440
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna do? I don't care what your defense

441
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: looks like. Look at look at the certain matchups that

442
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Speaker 1: they played last year where they really struggled with Connor

443
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Speaker 1: Williams and then beyond in there, you know, left guard center,

444
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City comes to mind, Tampa comes to mind, San

445
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: Francisco comes to minds are one when person was wrecking everything. Yeah,

446
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: and my last image of this offense was Dak getting

447
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: pressured the most times he's been pressured the whole season

448
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: against San Francisco. And this offense couldn't run the ball.

449
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: But average is like just over one hundred yards the

450
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Speaker 1: last half of the season. Like they have to fix it.

451
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: Question now, is Kent Tyler Smith come in and be

452
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Speaker 1: a plug and play left guard? Well, we'll see, we'll see,

453
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Speaker 1: but they certainly hope he can be if he's here.

454
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: Sixteenth player on your board, and he feels a need,

455
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Speaker 1: he better comes start. He has to s Yeah, he

456
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Speaker 1: has due. He's not just a future left tackle. I

457
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: just don't think you draft the guy at that spot

458
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Speaker 1: if he's If that question hasn't already been answered in

459
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Speaker 1: the war in the war room of does he come

460
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Speaker 1: in and play? No, I asked the question to Stephen

461
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Speaker 1: Jones and he didn't really. He's like, Oh, I don't

462
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: know about you know, come in and start right away.

463
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, but we're talking about guard. We're

464
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Speaker 1: not talking about tackle. And that's not to demean the position,

465
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Speaker 1: but the demands of a left guard are extremely less

466
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Speaker 1: than a left tackle. Yeah, so the position that he

467
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 1: played in college, if he was coming in here, we're

468
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Speaker 1: expected to play left tackle. That's a whole other conversation, right,

469
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Speaker 1: because you're gonna be facing some of the league's best

470
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Speaker 1: at that position. You're not facing Aaron Donald every week.

471
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Speaker 1: You're not facing an Aaron Donald every week, and you're

472
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Speaker 1: not gonna be facing a Philly every week twice a

473
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Speaker 1: year now, but they're gonna be You're not gonna be

474
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Speaker 1: facing teams that have multiple dominant guys on the inside. Now,

475
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: you got Washington teams like that. But these guys, you

476
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 1: still have help on both sides. You're not by yourself.

477
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Speaker 1: So the fact that it's a lot easier to grab

478
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Speaker 1: a guard or grab a tackle and convert him over

479
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Speaker 1: to a guard temporarily and him still be effective. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Chris, we got another call, Yes we do.

481
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Speaker 1: We got Eric in North Carolina. Oh no, Eric, what's up?

482
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Speaker 1: Oh no? He hung up? What's up? Oh man? Did

483
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Speaker 1: he hang up? Or was that user error back there

484
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Speaker 1: that you hang out? He sounded busy back there, Chris here, okay,

485
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: another one. I can hear the phone. I'm sorry, I've

486
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Speaker 1: got I've got Eli and corpus Christie, Eli. How's it going.

487
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. Pretty good. Guys. Love you guys, eating everyone.

488
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Speaker 1: You'll listen to you all the time. I think, I know,

489
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: I got thirty seconds. I just wanted to say that.

490
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Speaker 1: I think the whole thing that y'all are missing is

491
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Speaker 1: that we've done this with Connor McGrath, gover, We've done

492
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Speaker 1: this with Williams. We've we've done the second round talent

493
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Speaker 1: and a reaching board, and I know you bring up

494
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Speaker 1: our scanner, Frederick and and and other situations. There's gonna

495
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: be good and there's gonna be bad. But I've seen

496
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: too many bad decisions on the guard position lately to

497
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Speaker 1: trust at a first round pig. Who who's a red?

498
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean who? He did not have a good college

499
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Speaker 1: career to begin with, that true that, I mean, he's

500
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Speaker 1: a freshman All American. Here's a freshman All American and

501
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Speaker 1: he made and he made All Conference in the American

502
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Speaker 1: Athletic Conference, which you can say what you want. It

503
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Speaker 1: also had team in the in the final four of

504
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Speaker 1: the of the you know, within Cincinnati, which Tulsa almost beat,

505
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: by the way. I mean, that's not just that's not

506
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: true that he did not have a good college career.

507
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Speaker 1: He had a really good He's he can't even buy

508
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: a beer and he's over here and you know, I

509
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: mean he's like twenty years old. Like that's that's that narrative.

510
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: I don't know who you're listening to. That's not true.

511
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: He did have a good college career. And you can

512
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: if you want to compare him just to the position

513
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: to Connor Williams and Connor McGovern that's good luck because

514
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: because they were both light in the ass, they were

515
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: not movers like this guy's a house like this. It's

516
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Speaker 1: it's different. And I'm not saying he's gonna be great.

517
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying you can't just go

518
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: around saying, well, this didn't work, this didn't work. I mean, well,

519
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: let's don't pick him because Reggie Robinson didn't work out

520
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: at Tulsa, So let's don't take this guy, you know.

521
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you can't. It's not it's unfair

522
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: to everybody to just compare that way. Yeah, I mean

523
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: they're still trying. He I mean, Connor Williams is not

524
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: a bad player, but as a second round draft pick,

525
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: you would have hoped you could have he would have

526
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Speaker 1: played well enough to where you're, okay, we want to

527
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: keep him for a second contract. That didn't happen. Connor

528
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Speaker 1: McGovern has had some good and some bad. Obviously they're

529
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Speaker 1: looking to upgrade that position, so I see his point. Overall,

530
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: they've had more hits than missus on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I will just say that, you know, and hey, every

532
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: five years or so, they haven't had a good first

533
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Speaker 1: round pick. Five years ago, Taco, five years before that,

534
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: mow Clayborn. I don't know, if that's going to repeat itself.

535
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: When you're drafting at the back of the first round,

536
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: there's less margin for error. There just is. But and

537
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: in this draft, this draft was bananas, like the way

538
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: it unfolded and the trading, and like the run on

539
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 1: players and that the defensive Oh yeah, it was crazy.

540
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: So like Isaiah's point earlier, like what were you supposed

541
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: to don't know what? People like? What did you want

542
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: to take a receiver? That was the people like this?

543
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: They like the shiny stuff. Well for sure, and fans

544
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: might say, well, how about spend some money in free

545
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: agencies so where you're not potentially reaching, But they don't

546
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: view it like they're reaching in this And Nick's right, like,

547
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: we'll see how it turns out. I'm not bad against

548
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 1: Will in the first round. I'm not. I'm not doing it.

549
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: Just let me let me see, let's get into the sea.

550
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think this was I don't think

551
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: this was a reach. No, No, everybody wants Zeke to

552
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: get back to being Zeke. Yes, that's what everybody's crying

553
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: about last year. Zeke doesn't look like Zeke. But as

554
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: soon as you draft somebody that's gonna help him look

555
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: more like Zeke. People are like, oh, we should have

556
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: went the other direction. You know this this guy. You

557
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: just look at the stats here. I mean, I mean

558
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: not stats, I mean you to look at this video.

559
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: He doesn't really look like a tackle to me. He

560
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: looks like a guard. And I was surprised, rob Ian,

561
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: you can kind of you remember most of these guys.

562
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: I was surprised how many tackles played played college football

563
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: tackle that they Cowboys have moved to guard Collins. I

564
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: counted like seven guys you know since I've been here.

565
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I flows out Adams was way back, but

566
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: he did it for a couple of years and then

567
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: actually moved Connor Williams, Lyell, Zach Martin, Ron Leary. Um,

568
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: I think I'm missing at least one more. But I

569
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: mean the guys that play tackle that just instantly come

570
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: in and play guard. And here's another one. Chris got

571
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: another phone call due. And if this guy hangs up

572
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: on me again, I'm gonna be so mad. Who is

573
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: we got? Eric? North Carolina? What's for lunch man? What's up?

574
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: Raising Kane? Joe Kane? Here we go to the sandwich? Alright, alright, alright,

575
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: I was writing some sauce off my own phone. What oh,

576
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: I thought you said something else. I was like, that's

577
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: not where the sauce goes, Eric, he goes on the tenders,

578
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: not on that part of that. I would be real quick, y'all.

579
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: You know, I've learned over the last few years to

580
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: trust this team, to trust the decisions that they make

581
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. I really liked this pick. I

582
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: think you couldn't really go any other way. And if

583
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: anybody can coach him up, and seems he's open to

584
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: the coaching, and then if that's anybody could coach him

585
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: up is Joe Fielden. So I'm very thrilled with this coaching.

586
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: I mean, with this decision. It reminds me of Travis

587
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Feder twenty thirteen. It's a lot of knocks on his game,

588
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: but look look like when you turned out to be.

589
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: And I feel confident about this kid. I feel I'll

590
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: be going to build a team up in other areas

591
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: throughout these next few rounds. A lot of talent left,

592
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: so go Cowboys, and I can't wait to see what

593
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: we do with next with with the rest of the draft,

594
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: So you guys, enjoy the rest of you thank y'all

595
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: and talk to y'all ever. Thank you, Eric, Jerry Jones,

596
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. They wish they were that all the fans

597
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: were like you, I'll tell you what they really do.

598
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's positive. Eric is a is a regular

599
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: on Hanging with the boys. That's fine. We always ask

600
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: him what's for lunch because he calls in on Friday,

601
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: and I will tell you what you heard, how how

602
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: educated he was, how enthusiastic he was. That's the kind

603
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: of listeners that that we we at Hanging with the boys.

604
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: The people show God, we educate. We educate our fans,

605
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: and that's what you get art educated. Showing just comes

606
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: on later so that people have time to actually google's

607
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: now that we missed you. We hadn't taken calls a while.

608
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: I was good to hear from Eric, But I mean,

609
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: does he ever go non sponsor? Uh? You he'd ever

610
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: tell you what the lunch that's that's yeah, you gotta

611
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: dump it. He he usually cooks his own stuff, like

612
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: he that's how that got started. Like he's always he's

613
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: he's a he cooks. He's a cook. Let me guess

614
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: the thirty second rule is a Nate Newton rule Hu

615
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: because Nate was like, listen, bro Man, we gotta get

616
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: rid of this guy thirty seconds. What happened is we

617
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: had we had callers that would call in and they

618
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: would literally talk for like three minutes, and we were like, okay,

619
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Speaker 1: we we got made about laugh We got an hour

620
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: long show like we can't and Nate. Once you lose Nate,

621
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Speaker 1: he's gone. Once he does this, like he's out the

622
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: rest of the show. So we were like, all right,

623
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: we gotta keep Nati Gays. So thirty seconds. But no,

624
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: that was that was a good call. Yeah. By the way,

625
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: nick I looked up his snaps nine hundred nine last year.

626
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot of nine hundred nine last year. No

627
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: wonder he's holding. He's exhausted in comparison Zion Johnson, who

628
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: everybody wanted seven hundred seventy seven. Okay, so you look

629
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: up Kenyan Green. I will second, well, Kenyan Green, that

630
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I think was one of the not the biggest curveball,

631
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: but earlier when that when he went off the board,

632
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: I think that fifteen was like all right, now, this

633
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: is gonna change things. Yeah, and Jerry said they had

634
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith ahead of both guys. I wonder with Kenyan

635
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Speaker 1: Green if the whispers is about his knee leading up

636
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: might have dropped him down um after the combine, But

637
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: either way, that was kind of the group of guys

638
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: they were looking at and and Linderbaum again center. He's

639
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a plug and play guy where he plays

640
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: but doesn't fill a need for them Right now, what

641
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna do today? Where do you

642
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: think they go? Do? I wait, I think they'll get

643
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: um uh, tight end and over. Those are the two

644
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna go in that order. No receiver tied end.

645
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: But but if if it not necessarily, I mean, I

646
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: think those are the two positions you would prefer. But um,

647
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 1: but you know, for some reason that safety keeps popping up,

648
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: and I don't know why. I just think that if

649
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: there's one that they like, I mean, which is unlike them,

650
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: very unlike them. So is j Ron Kurse gonna have

651
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: LB next to his name next year? Is that basically

652
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: why he's in the box and he's a linebacker. I

653
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, yeah, thanks. They need linebackers, They really

654
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: need linebackers, I think too. They just can't get around that.

655
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's if it's a traditional linebacker.

656
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a linebacker, uh that likes

657
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: to run around. But first guy on the book here

658
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: on our Star magazine. Still they're still there in Nakobe Dean. Yeah,

659
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand that they maybe they try to. I

660
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: think it was because he didn't play at the defense

661
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: that was very good. I don't think that Georgia defense

662
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: was good last year. And knowing I'm kidding, like, yeah, guys,

663
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: the explanation. Don't they give up like six points a game?

664
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: What does he feel? How does he feel like? Okay,

665
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: he won't be there long? No, this is one of

666
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: those thirty thirty four thirty five overall, Like you know

667
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: you're sitting right at the top. Yeah, you mentioned earlier

668
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver. How many do you think they're gonna try

669
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: to go after hopefully on your one? Hopefully on your one. Yeah.

670
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean we heard so much this past year a

671
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: year and a half about killing Moore in his system. Uh,

672
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: they feel as if, I through their action as they

673
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: feel as if they don't need a traditional number one receiver,

674
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: even though you know they let Coop go and now

675
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, we're gonna make CD's gonna step up

676
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: and be a number one. The reality is killing Moore

677
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: is super duper confident in his system, and you don't.

678
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't feel the need for a number one. So

679
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: now it's just a matter of Okay, let's start plugging

680
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: and playing different attributes and different characteristics of receivers. Right,

681
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: you have a CD who can kind of go inside

682
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: and outside, who can be considered to be dominant. You

683
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: got Gallop. Gallops are our go guy, and he's coming

684
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: off injury, so as we still need to have some stuff.

685
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: We got Simmy. We really don't know what Simmy can do, right,

686
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: he didn't really touch the field much last year. You

687
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: pick up James Washington. Okay, James Washingtons, you're more all

688
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: right inside this kind of slot slot kind of guy

689
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: that can get in and out. I think you need

690
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: another James Washington ish guy, another Wes Welker Ish Beasley is,

691
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, one of those type of guys to be

692
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: able to get you those easy five six yard you know, conversions,

693
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: because that ultimately is all this team needs to just

694
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball down the field. I

695
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: don't think that Dak's velocity of his arm is set

696
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: up to be throwing the ball down the field. I

697
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: just don't and I'll get cursed out for that all

698
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: day long. I don't care. I don't believe, and I

699
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: said it all year long, and know I have a

700
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: lot of feeling to back it up. He doesn't have

701
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: the velocity to push the ball down the field in

702
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: which people the way people think that he does. So

703
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: with that being the case, he is going to need

704
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: other options underneath that can free themselves up, to free

705
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: themselves up in coverage. And there's not a lot of

706
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: man coverage nowadays, so you gotta have some smart guys.

707
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: I know how to find them. They're wayh in his

708
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: own which is why you're enfranchising you your tag in

709
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: who nobody else really wouldn't franchised. Yeah, to your point,

710
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: like Chris o'lavia was a guy a lot of fans

711
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: wanted Saints trade up to I think to eleven to

712
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: get him, and he had a couple of different skills

713
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: that stood out. You know, he's a four three guy

714
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: and that's Speed's great. To Isaiah's point, to me, maybe

715
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: the best part about his game is his route running

716
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: and he can step right in and be a dependable

717
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: guy where the quarterback knows exactly where he's gonna be.

718
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: And that's what Amari brought more than anything here. I

719
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: think they got to find a guy who can do that,

720
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: just come in as a rookie and be very, very

721
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: dependable for Dak Press guy Cedric Wilson did that too.

722
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: By the way, Cedric Wilson was as friendly quarterback, friendly

723
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: or receiver, especially a guy you pick in the sixth

724
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: round as anybody they've had in a long time. Would

725
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: you take ad that hurts me? That hurt me, hurt me.

726
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: I was so angry. That was my pet cat, dude.

727
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: I was angry. I didn't want to see him go.

728
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: I said when he got on the roster, Ross said

729
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be He's gonna be a key contributor, special team,

730
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: special teams, and a dependable receiver. He just didn't get

731
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: to get the you know, the pub and then they

732
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: freaking let him walk. I was not a house. Was

733
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: like when Cedric was gone, I was like, this is time,

734
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna be my guy. Come on, we got

735
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: another one and bye, go ahead. Would you take would

736
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: you take John Metchi from Alabama knowing that he's had

737
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: a torn ACL in the SEC Championship game, He's might

738
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: miss some time, and you have Michael Gallup. You wouldn't

739
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: take him. No, we don't. You don't need two acls

740
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: on the team. I'm just no disrespect. I'm a guy

741
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: who's had a ton of injuries. But that's not you

742
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: don't want to roll roll the dice, you know, saying

743
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: with with double snake eyes, would you have done it

744
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: with Jamison Williams. Nope, you wouldn't have done that now here.

745
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: Okay about you, Rob, What do you think they're gonna

746
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: go today today? I would say receiver. You know, it

747
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: depends on what falls to them or you know, maybe

748
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: they get aggressive. I don't know, but but receiver and

749
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: tight ends a good one. I might say edge rusher too,

750
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: because you can't wait if you want to add there,

751
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: you can't wait too long, you know, to find a

752
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: guy who can come in and make an impact for you.

753
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: So I'd say, you know those two or three spots

754
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: and the Mechi questions is good? Interesting Nick, because I'm

755
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: with Isaiah and that they need a healthy guy to

756
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: come in because you don't know how much time Michael

757
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: gotp's gonna miss right off the bat. But they have

758
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: a history here of second second treat the second round,

759
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: as we can hedge a little bit here and Bruce Carter,

760
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith Smith. Some of it's injury, some of it

761
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: is you know, Randy Gregory dropped out of the first

762
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: round because of off the field stuff and they gambled there,

763
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: and you know so that they that's how they'll treat

764
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: the second round at times, you know, Kelvin Joseph last year, Yeah,

765
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: I think I think you made a great point the

766
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: other day that that of why you know, it's also

767
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: dangerous too. You do that when you're when you're covering

768
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: your basis in freecy. But they don't do that. They're

769
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: putting a lot of their eggs in the basket of

770
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: this draft able through the draft. That that being said,

771
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can be risky here in

772
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: the second round. You were risky last year in the

773
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: second round. And I don't know if that that player

774
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: is going to play for you anymore. No one knows

775
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: that right now. So I'm just saying this. I think

776
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: if there is such a thing as a safe second

777
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: round pick, I would do it and usually it's the

778
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: offensive line. Usually in second round. Yeah, yeah, take another guard. No, well, honestly,

779
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: they do have to take another guard at some point

780
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: because if this is the left tackle the future, Tyler Smith, well,

781
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: then who's gonna play left guard? So I'm not saying

782
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: to get him in the second round, but if there's

783
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: one in the fourth, I wouldn't be surprised. Do you

784
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: think there's a scenario where they trade up today, if

785
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: to get a guy since they have so many Day

786
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: three picks, packaging something up and going up and getting

787
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: somebody that's a Nakobe Dean or somebody, it doesn't wipe

788
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: you out for the third round. I'd consider it. They've

789
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: done it before. Four they traded last time. Maybe they

790
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: did it was Tank you know in twenty fourteen. Would

791
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: you go four and of five with the two that

792
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: you have four and to five to go up? Would

793
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: that even get you up? No? I don't know. If

794
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: it's not getting your not to get into Kobe Dean, Well,

795
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, but hope back you still you

796
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: still have three fifth rounders left, which typically fifth round

797
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's throwing darts and they haven't had a

798
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: good I've mentioned our show, since Orlando was Secandrick was

799
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: the last guy that really became a starter there. But

800
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: they feel like the real depth of the draft is

801
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: three through five because of the super seniors, because they

802
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: probably have guys that would have been graded much higher

803
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: in a previous year that are maybe pushed down a

804
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I wouldn't discount dipping in there

805
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: and trying to you have draft capital move around if

806
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: you want to. Yeah, yeah, alright, looks like one more

807
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: at least one more call before we get out of here. Chris,

808
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: who we got? We got Jim in Pasadena? Jim, How

809
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: are you fine? Guys? How are you good? Good? Good?

810
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: So I looked at tape Tyler Smith. I think he's good.

811
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: I think he's a maaller and dominant guy. I actually

812
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: think he's better than Linderbaum. I looked at him against Michigan,

813
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: and I think Tyler is a great draft. Obviously, he's

814
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: got to be coached up. But my question to you

815
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: is is there a tight end in the draft that

816
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: can give us a huddle like New England's Hernandez Grunk.

817
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: So that's my question. And if there is a tight

818
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: end that can give us that do you trade up

819
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: for it? Good question? Are you looking at some guys?

820
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: I think page fifty one of our draft magazine is

821
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: going to have some interesting names today. I think four

822
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: guys that they like M K Trey McBride, which might

823
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: be a second rounder, dull Rich from UCLA which is

824
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: also I think a second rounder, and then maybe Ruckert

825
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: and Otton in the third. Any of those guys come

826
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: in for thirty visits, I'm not which apparently that apparently

827
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't What does that mean? It doesn't really matter

828
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: this year, because neither did uh Tyler Smith did he know?

829
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: But I well, what I like about all three four

830
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: of these guys that I'm looking at, they're almost identical

831
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: in their in Their size is six four, six to five,

832
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: all around two forty five. And I would think those

833
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: guys can can be capable blockers. That's the big one

834
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: right there. Can they help there? Because you know Dalton's

835
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: gonna help is He's gonna be a top option in

836
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: the passing game. Yeah, So I think I think tight

837
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: end's gonna happen here, maybe not in the second round,

838
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: but but maybe in the third. I think that happens today,

839
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: and I think they want to get a receiver, So

840
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: stay offense and go tackle. I mean, go receiver and

841
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: tight end. That's my prediction for today, all right, anything,

842
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: I don't mean to answer his question. I don't see

843
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: anybody in this draft being able to grab somebody that's

844
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Speaker 1: gonna pair up with what you already have at the

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Speaker 1: tight end position that's gonna make a combination like Hernandez

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Speaker 1: and in Grunk. So let's go ahead and put that

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Speaker 1: to rest. But in terms of being able to go

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Speaker 1: grab somebody that can help block, you know, I've had

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: some conversations with Linda Welles, and I think that he's

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Speaker 1: pretty confident with who he has in the room in

851
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: terms of their ability to block um. But you know,

852
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: to that point, they still might add somebody. You know,

853
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: obviously I'm always gonna go through you dub people, so

854
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Speaker 1: odd somebody I wouldn't be mad about. But it's like,

855
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: what do you what do you need? You know, like

856
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm always looking at like necessities, whether it's sexy or not.

857
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: What are the absolute necessities for this offense or for

858
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: this and for this team. And I think that you

859
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: still need a big man upfront because we haven't resigned

860
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: any we didn't we didn't sign a big man. What's

861
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: up urban Urban? You didn't sign an urban. So you

862
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: still need a big you know, a big nasty say,

863
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: you still need him. I don't know if they's if there,

864
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: if there's in this draft, right, but you still need

865
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: somebody to have that type of presence. Um. And I

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00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: still think that you need you do need a receiver. Um.

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00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: And then I think you still need DBS. Man. I

868
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: still think that you need DBS. You're in a league

869
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: that is lining up. There's teams that are lining up

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: with four one or number two receivers, and you got

871
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Speaker 1: to find a way to stop him. And yeah, I

872
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: don't think that you can have enough you obviously we

873
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: have Digs out there. He's doing his thing, and then

874
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: you have a couple whether you know, a Brown and

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00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: couple other guys. But you don't to your point, you

876
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: don't know if Joe still is going to be out there.

877
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: There's a high probability he probably won't you know, um

878
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: some time. Yeah, so you need to find somebody else

879
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: that can step in and contribute at that position as well.

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00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: Any party word rob before we get out of here. No,

881
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 1: that's corner, right, that's that's another one like and Jerry

882
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: was asked, yeah, tuesday, you know, would that affect your

883
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: draft preparation? He said no, No, they don't tip their

884
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: hand on much of anything at the pre draft press conference.

885
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: But that'd be interesting to see if. I mean, you

886
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: could say they don't have must but there's a lot

887
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: of positions that you could look at and if they

888
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: could go with their this route on second, third round

889
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: and say oh yeah, yeah that could work. That could work.

890
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: I would say receiver stands out still to me though,

891
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: the most because because it gallops status. Even if he's

892
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: back early September or training camp, how much you know

893
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be probably limited. So they need to address

894
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: more of that position. Depth two is there, I tell

895
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: you what. Let's go around the horn before we get

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Speaker 1: out of here. Last question for everybody. Start with you, Rob.

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00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Is there a position today that they would they could

898
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: draft that you would be like, upset? Is there a

899
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: position they do not need to address today? Quarterback and

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00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: kicker and uh? Running back? Yeah? Running back? You know

901
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: some of the what would be upset? Huh? Not upset

902
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: would be I would be puzzled. I would you know

903
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: they got the A and M running back. Well, you know,

904
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad about it. I would be fine

905
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: with with mister Spiller. I love that. But but I

906
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: mean they're not those are not muss those are not

907
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: It's an obviously quarterback, come on, you know, but that's

908
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But everything else is in play, right,

909
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like as asked said, a d line, whether

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00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: it's a guy in the middle or a pass rusher

911
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: on the edge. Linebacker, you could tell walk me into

912
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: safety corner. I mean really, they could go in a

913
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: lot of directions to help out dan Quinn, no doubt.

914
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah about you, Gaiah, anything anything you would not be

915
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: on board with position wise today, tight end, tight end,

916
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be kind of angry about that. Running back,

917
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: I think that would be It's not a necessity. I

918
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: think those are two positions that don't need to be

919
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: tended to right now based upon some of the decisions

920
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: and people that you have in place. Um quarterback. Yeah,

921
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's not it's not happening alas not even

922
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: in play. Yeah about you, nick Na, I mean the

923
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: same with what they're saying. I mean, this team needs

924
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: some help in a lot of areas. I mean and

925
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: so and then that's what that's what's going on with

926
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: the league now. I mean, like second contracts are I mean,

927
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: there's so much turnover now, so it is, it is

928
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean even though you think, well

929
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: we're set now, I mean look at like running back,

930
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: like we're set now. Well next year, I mean much

931
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: none of these running backs could be on the roster

932
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: next year. Same tight end, Same with tight end. I mean,

933
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: see what happens with Schultz's deal if he gets a

934
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: deal corner. I mean, you know, Brown and Jordan Lewis

935
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: may not be here, Joseph may not. I mean so

936
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: like so a position you think look solid may not. Yeah,

937
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: and that and that's something that they are thinking of.

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00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of fans, and there's some

939
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: educated fans out there for sure, but sometimes they do

940
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: get in Madden mode where they think that's all about

941
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: this year and this year only, and they don't draft

942
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: that way. They don't they don't make decisions that way. Yeah, well, fellas,

943
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: this was fun, fun. Thanks for having me, Nick Eatman,

944
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Speaker 1: Isaiah stand bad Us, Rob Phillips, I'm Shannon Gross, Chris Beam,

945
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: thanks for pulling all the buttons and hanging up on folks,

946
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: but making it sound good anyway. William, thanks for having

947
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: the live streams up so early in the morning after

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Speaker 1: you were up here all night. We appreciate that. Day

949
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Speaker 1: two of the draft and just uh a few hour

950
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Speaker 1: else what six hours from now, so we'll see what happens,

951
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we'll have another one of these tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You do another one of these tomorrow, Dick, No, probably

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Speaker 1: not no, because we started early day. So yeah, this

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Speaker 1: tomorrow will be the draft. Okay, Well, we hope you

955
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: enjoyed this because this this lineup will probably never happen again.

956
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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun and I enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: so cherish it. See yea, We will see you next time.

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