WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Scouting the Rams 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.880 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:20.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.800 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.120 ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.479 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:39.800 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:46.440 It is Wednesday, September ninth, twenty twenty, season sixteen, episode 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.280 number nineteen. Welcome to another edition of The Break. For 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.240 the first time in a very long time. We got 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.920 everybody on our crew at the Star at the same time, 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.000 but myself and Dave are here in the SWBC Morgan Studios. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.680 Nick's upstairs in his office, Amber's upstairs in somebody's office, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.120 and we got a special guest today. So very welcome 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:11.280 and very unhappy to welcome Bucky Brooks to the program. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.200 He'll be joining us as I mentioned you guys on 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.959 Twitter every Wednesday and Thursday. He'll come in and talk 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:22.160 to us about the opposing team. Welcome to the show, Bucky. Yeah, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.240 we love getting you here because it's gonna give us 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.280 an opportunity to take advantage of your experience. You were 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.000 a player and a scout in the NFL for a 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.480 total of twelve years, and I guess just give before 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.680 we get started out some questions for you. Give our 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.720 listeners a little bit of a background on your career 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.560 and kind of what you've been doing and where you 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:47.119 are now. Man, it's been a it's been a long journey, 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.280 been a crazy journey. But spend five years in the 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.160 National Football League as a player, bounced around from team 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.120 to team after being the second round pick with the 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.600 Buffalo Bills. Spend time with the Bills, the Packers, the 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.280 Jacksonville Jaguars, to Ken City Chiefs, and finish with the 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.080 Oath and Raiders. Got a chance to play it for 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.800 a lot of great coaches, saw how the game could 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.760 be won at the highest level. Transition into being a scout. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.440 Spent three years with the Seattle Seahawks and then moved 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.280 on four years with the Carolina Panthers. While I was 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.079 with the Panthers, we went to Super Bowl thirty eight, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.280 didn't win it, but we were close enough. And so 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.320 from a team building perspective, have really been around a 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.720 lot of great teams and have seen it done a 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.880 bunch of different ways, and so I've tried to parlay 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.720 those experiences and to being able to kind of scalt 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.200 for the masses with my role at NFL Media, NFL Network, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.720 and the things that I do with Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.680 Just trying to share what I've learned to kind of 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.360 help people take a start, and to appreciate you taking 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.440 some time with us. We're gonna do it like this 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.360 every Wednesday. We're going to talk about the opposing team's offense, 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:51.880 and so we would do a round robin. We got 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.000 a lot of questions we're gonna throw at you today 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.359 about the Rams offense, and then tomorrow we'll jump into 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.200 the Rams defense matched up with the Cowboys offense. I'll 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.040 start off first, as you look at this Rams team 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.320 last season offensively, it looked like they took a little 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.799 bit of a step back from what they were the 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.320 year before that. They scored fourteen fewer touchdowns, which is 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.280 a significant number, almost an average of one touchdown per game. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:16.799 They were down about seven hundred total yards from what 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.320 they did in two eighteen. What did you see looking 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.800 at them in two eighteen and twenty nineteen. That may 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.000 have been the difference last year. Just to why they 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:29.840 may have been a little less productive. You know, it's 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.440 funny because Sean McVay was really hailed as an offensive 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.320 wizard the first few seasons in the league for the 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.720 job that he did with the Rams. Offensively, they were explosive, 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.640 they were dynamic, they were exciting to watch, very creative 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.720 in how they went about their business. But Sean mcvagh 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.600 is a disciple of the Shanahans. He wonts the Shanahan system. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.960 It's a lot of stretch zone run. We're complimented with 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.560 bootleg and complimentary play actions. So what they want to 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.080 do is give the defense the rum look while pulling 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.119 it out and taking shots down to field, and if 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.760 you're not able to contain the run, they pick your 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.120 part with these misdirection passes off of that action. Jared 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.720 Goff is at his best throwing all play action. Last year, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:15.240 he wasn't on his game. Some of that was due 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.440 to the offensive line not being able to really build 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.440 a fortress in front of him. Some of that was 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.799 due to what if issues they had with Todd Gurley 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.240 and Sean McVay. They didn't play him the way that 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.240 they played him before, and without the threat of a 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.279 strong running game. It really impacted Jared Goff. And when 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.760 you look at the Rams and you look at Jared Goff, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.440 he is really a guy that needs to play, actually 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:42.120 needs everything right around him. When he does that, they win. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.160 And so the magic number from Jerry Golf if he 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.000 has a passer rating over ninety, he is twenty six 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.160 and two in his career. So when he's efficient and effective, 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:57.320 the Los Angeles Rams question, you got who's the running back? 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.919 But you know, like so right now they're talking about 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.279 doing a running back by committee. They have Malcolm Brown, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.440 they have cam Acres. I would put my money on 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:12.000 cam Acres playing a significant role in this offense. The 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.800 second round pick coming out of Florida State is special. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.279 He's dynamic with the ball in his hands, can run 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.800 an inside and outside. I can catch the ball particularly 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.480 well in the screen game. If they get him going, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.680 this offense could look like the offense that we celebrated 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.360 as one of the best offenses that we've seen in 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.919 sometime now. Something that we always used to talk to 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.440 a while is what's the biggest matchup here? What would 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.680 be the main area where the Cowboys should probably focus 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:43.159 more on these two once their offense and versus defense 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:48.000 come together, they have to focus on the outside. Obviously, 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.400 the biggest question mark for the Cowboys coming in is 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.920 the secondary. Can there guys on the outside hold up 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.560 where they're facing one of the best one two punches 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.080 at wide receiver and Cooper Cup and Robert Woods they 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.320 were the only due They had ninety plus catches and 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:06.440 one thousand yards apiece last season. They ranked third in 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.880 receiving yards behind the Cowboys duo. So this is a 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.960 tandem that is dynamic, the explosive, the outstanding route runners. 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:18.760 So on the perimeter, can the Cowboys hold up and 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.360 prevent diff from having big plays in the passing game? 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.080 That is ultimately where the game. You touched on this 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.000 in your first comment, but I think it merit's going 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.880 back to is the Rams offensive line, because you know, 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.400 last year it felt like a revolving door. I feel 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.960 like Andrew Whitworth was really the only member of that 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.679 group that was available for sixteen games. They didn't address 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.400 it much in the offseason. So my question for you 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.000 is is getting everybody healthy going to be enough for 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:51.000 them or is that a problem spot? I mean, it's 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.760 certainly a weakness until they show that they fixed the 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:57.359 problems that plagued them a season ago. Rob Havingstein and 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.520 Andrew Whitworth, they'll hold up the edges. And I'll say this, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.919 Andrew Whitworth is in severe decline. He's an older player. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.719 You're thirty eight years old. You're not supposed to be 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.000 playing on the edge. And so there's a weakness that 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:13.200 the Cowboys can exploit and the pass for us game interior. Look, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.360 they're just very very average on the inside. When you 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.120 look at the guys that they have, Note boon blythe Corbett, 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.040 they're okay, but they're not overpowering. And the problem that 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.880 they've had in this system, which really doesn't take a 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.080 five road greatest many that can push people off the ball, 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.520 but you have to work in unison. When they're not 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.000 working in sync, they have a tough time creating the 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.960 push that they need. And so this game will also 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.560 be decided in the trenches. Can they get movement off 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.680 the ball so they can establish the run game. The 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.760 running game is critical to send Jared Goff up to 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.680 be able to go to take you back to what 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.640 you were talking about with Jared Goff. He's a guy 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.800 that seems to have more mixed reviews on him around 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.040 the league with regard to disabilities as a quarterbacks as 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.000 much as anybody. Yeah, I heard you say. It was 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.960 a really interesting stat that when his pass rating is 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.160 over ninety, he's twenty six and two. My question for 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.600 you is what have you seen defenses due to him 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.400 that keep him from that number? Like, what is it 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.360 that can you know? Some quarterbacks are susceptable to pressure, 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.720 some are susceptible to more his own like, what is 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.680 the thing that really really tends to affect him more 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:24.480 than anything else. The number one thing that you have 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:25.960 to do when you're play in the rams and Jerry 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.320 Golf is you got to be able to contain the 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.559 running game. Because if you can make the rams pass 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.840 and obvious passing situations where the play action pass is 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.640 not a factor, he is not as great when he 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.280 has to operate on straight drop back passes without the 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:44.280 deception that lures the linebackers near the line of scrimmage. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.360 He doesn't have those open voids at intermediate range ten 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.880 to fifteen yards to hit the digs and the deep 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.120 overs that they like to hit, and so contain the 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.520 running game. You have to find a way to put 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.720 your hands on the wide receivers to disrupt the timing 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.120 of the passing game. For j Golf, he likes to 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.160 throw from a clean pocket. He wants to get to 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.160 the top of his drop, and he wants to let 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.520 the ball go on time. So anything that the defense 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.439 can do to disrupt the timing gets him out of sync. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.439 And lastly, you have to hit him. Most quarterbacks change 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.040 when they're effected in the pocket, but if you get 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.600 hits on Jed Golf, it disrupts his rhythm. It forces 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.680 him to throw early, and with those early passes under 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:30.240 durest tips, overthrows, interceptions, those things tend to happen, and 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.199 so stop the running game, disrupt the rhythm of the 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.719 wide receivers, and then you have to get around him. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.439 You do those three things, he has a tough time 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:43.360 having a solid game. Bucky, what how have you evaluated 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.840 the ram? I mean, if it's going off the last year, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:47.440 I mean, this is going to be a problem that 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.640 all teams have to deal with right now, no preeasy game. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.360 I'm just kind of curious. I assure him last year's state, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:56.840 but do you kind of mix in the personnel that 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:58.920 they've added and go back and look at them, and 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.480 how do you kind of come up with a game 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:06.000 plan when you have at them? You know, so you 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:07.720 have to go back and look at last year's tape, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.520 and last year's tape would be the indicator. Obviously, every 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.960 year teams do self scout, They look at where they 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.559 did well, where they were poor, and they obviously try 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:18.520 and work directed by those while sprinkling in some new stuff. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.880 So you understand exactly what their personnel is. You know 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.400 how Jared golf plays, You understand what the weapons are 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.320 on the outside and cup in woods. But then we 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.120 had the opportunity and watching them in hard knocks, and 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.160 even though hard knocks doesn't really give you all twenty 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.160 two perspective, you certainly can kind of see some of 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.160 the things that they're trying to do when you're looking 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.160 at the b role. And so when you put all 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.520 that together and you listen to how Sean McVeigh has 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.199 talked about kind of getting back to the basics, not 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.120 being too cute, getting back to what the essence of 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:52.760 this offense was. Well, you think about twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.440 when they've made Super Bowl runs, it's because the running game, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.719 the complimentary passing game, the explosive plays they want to 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.040 get acted that. So that has to be the expectations. Now. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.840 Something that we've talked about a lot last year was 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.440 the Cowboys in their struggle when it came to the 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:12.560 tackling game this offseason. Due to no preseason games, we 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.839 haven't really seen the Cowboys be able to tackle or 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.080 because you know, you don't want to create any kinds 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.080 of injuries prior to the season starting. Do you see 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.920 this and as an area of concern for this defense 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.559 once they get to this first game as far as 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:31.120 just struggling with the right way to tackle. I mean, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.160 it's gonna be a huge concern for everybody, not just 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:36.360 the Cowboys. When you haven't had the preseason to really 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.240 get live tackling, it makes it difficult. Obviously, we have 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.440 heard about the practices. Some of you guys have seen 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.680 the practices. They've been trying to work on those things, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.840 simulated drills or whatever. But it's gonna be rough because 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.880 the speed of the game is so different from practice. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.319 What you hope is that not only can you tackle 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.480 well in open field, but you get enough guys running 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.120 to the ball where if the first guy misses, there 0:11:58.160 --> 0:11:59.959 are two or three other guys to clean it up. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.760 But yes, it's something that is a concern. They have 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.760 to really be able to make solid open field tackles 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.920 because a missa two leads the explosive plays on a perimeter. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.520 And obviously, you know our work that we've done together 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.880 has been draft related to this point, I'm the draft guy. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.080 So it seems like there is a lot of hype 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.760 coming out of this RAMS camp about Van Jefferson, second 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.600 round pick out of Florida. It honestly reminds me a 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.480 lot of Cede Lamb in the sense that you know, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.120 Robert Woods and Cooper Cup are already there and they're 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.160 not asking Jefferson to do too much. So with that 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.560 in mind, what role do you see him having and 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:39.839 how successful could he be as a rookie. So they 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.400 have a couple of guys to keep an eye on 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.680 when they go to their four receiver packages. You have 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.280 Josh Reynolds from Texas and m who has come on 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.400 has been a solid number three for them, But then 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.600 Van Jefferson and the reason the excitement over Van Jefferson 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.200 is due to his rail running ability has polished and 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.120 his just pro demeanor. When you think about a son 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.680 of her wide receiver coach Sean Jefferson, who's the wide 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.160 receiver coach for the New York Jets. He comes in 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.120 with all of the tricks of the trade. He has 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.280 it all, and really he matches what they already have 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.680 in Cooper Cup and Robert Woods. Our standing route runners, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.560 understands how to create separation. Anyone who had a chance 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:18.240 to watch him at the Senior Bowl saw he consistently 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.800 get open. So Nam, would you add him to the 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.319 mix working against the third dB. Is the third cornerback 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.120 able to handle a route runner? That would be one 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.400 of the challenges that because the FOI let you go, Bucky. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.360 I have one final question for you. I'm looking at 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.040 these three pass rushers for the Cowboys, Everson Griffith, Tank, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.000 Lawrence Alden Smith. They remind me a lot of what 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.000 Nick and I tend to do in fantasy football. Like 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.000 you look at our teams and three to five years 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.839 ago they would have been great. Now we don't really know. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.959 So my question for you is what are you expecting 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.240 from these three pass rushers. I think they all at 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.360 different points in their careers, have been really really great 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.160 pass rushers. What are you expecting at this point? And 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:04.480 with all of them together as a group, I think 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.000 collectively they could be a dominant unit. And I'm gonna 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.719 say this, and I'm gonna put ALDA. Smith in the 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.760 wildcard category because he hasn't played in four or five years, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.800 so we just don't know. But I'm gonna say this, 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.839 Everson Griffin and DeMarcus Lawrence they are a problem. They 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.760 will be a problem. DeMarcus Lawrence didn't have a great 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.400 year by his standards last year, but the talent is there. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.040 The pass rushing prowess he possesses Everson Griffin will make 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:29.960 him a better player. And I'm gonna say this, and 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.520 I've said this repeatedly, Everson Griffin is a significant upgrade 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.240 over Robert Quinn. Robert Quid was a little more one 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.840 dimensional a speed rusher. Everson Griffin has it all and 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.520 what I like about him. His repertoire is small, but 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.800 he is masterful. He has an upfield speed rush move 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.440 where he can consistently dipping rip pass blockers, but he 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.359 compliments that with a nasty spin move working on the inside. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.240 When you add those two moves plus a relentless motor. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.920 He is going to get ten plus sacks just by 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.400 showing up. Alden Smith is unique in terms of we're 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.600 seeing a guy that has been a dominant edge player 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.200 early in his career come in, balked up and played 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.360 really heavy handed. I think his biggest contributions will not 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.680 be as a pass rusher, but more as a heavy 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.760 handed run stopper on the edge. He may give you 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.200 something in terms of garbage sex, but really he's a 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.720 heavy hand at presence on the edge. But in everything. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.920 Griffin and DeMarcus Lawrence, I wouldn't be surprised to see 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.880 them Telly twenty five, twenty seven sex collectively because those 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.440 guys are dominant. And if the Cowboys play the way 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.480 that I think they're going to play on offense, where 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.560 they run out score points and they make the opponent 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.200 chase points, meaning they have to pass, it could be 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.560 to the ears of all the Cowboys mans listening, Let's 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.840 hope that that goes from your mouth to God's ears. Hey, 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.600 Bucky Man, we appreciate you joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.000 We're gonna have you on with us. We'll talk a 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.400 little bit about the Rams defense match up against the 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.360 Cowboys offense. 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First segment we had 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.000 Bucky Brooks and he broke down the Rams offense versus 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.520 the Cowboys defense. Will do the defense tomorrow. But now 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.160 we're gonna move on to talk a little bit about 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.919 Mike McCarthy. He had his press conference this morning. He 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.320 did give us an update on Xavier Woods and Cheeto 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.520 Awoozia h Nick give us an update on what he 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.760 said and what's expected of those two guys as far 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.720 as practice and maybe even playing this week. I think 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.280 they're gonna give They're gonna give it a go. Chetosa 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.720 get the practice Zavier as well. I think expect Or 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.120 been hearing that all week. Zavi's gonna get a chance 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.600 to go out there, you know. But they're obviously you know, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.960 they got Brandon car on practice. Why. I think Brandon 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.120 Carr will will get the chance to move up. He's 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.080 going to give them some versatility in both of those 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.679 areas at corner and safety if he can pick up 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.919 the defense in the scheme quickly. But I think I 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.880 think they're gonna we'll see today and then tomorrow how 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:28.040 they respond on Xavier and Keito. Another thing question that 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.680 I forgot to ask yesterday, but now that Nick brought 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.800 up Brandon Carr again, with guys like that that haven't 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.160 been able to have an off season with the team, 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.280 how long do you guys expect players like that to 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.000 be able to get acclimated and bat and get back 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.440 to that level too. Okay, now we can feel comfortable 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.320 putting that guy on the field in a real game. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.359 It's a great question that I struggle with the answer, 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.520 to be honest with you, because common sense says Brandon 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.080 car didn't have a training camp, he didn't have an 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.000 off season, even as a twelve year and it seems 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.000 wild to think that they're gonna put him out there 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.159 seven days after he signs with the team. But if 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.679 anybody could do it, it's probably a twelve year vet um. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.560 I think it's gonna be Brandon's comfort level as well 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.119 as the coaches comfort level that he can handle it. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.199 But I mean, like I said, it sounds odd that 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.800 he would be on the field seven days after signing 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.240 with the team. Yeah, I actually think there are two 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.800 things at play there. I mean, one, he's a twelve 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.199 year VET, so from the standpoint of him picking things up, 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.720 I think that that works in his favor. I think 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.639 the flip side of that is he's a twelve year 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.840 VET where his body maybe like I need a little 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.919 bit more time to ramp up right. So again, it 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.919 all is individual. We don't know how his body works. 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.080 And he said he's been working out quite a bit 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.760 during the off season getting his body prepared. You've always 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.320 heard the phrase from players that there's off season training 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.000 and then there's football shape, and maybe it takes him 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.679 a little while to get up to football shape. But 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:58.959 I don't think they're actually gonna be bringing him in 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.440 to go out there and play, you know, fifty snaps. 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:04.439