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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams

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Speaker 2: We are back and Bale he Iss five.

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Speaker 3: Steelersition Radio and ESPN nine seventy. As we often do

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Speaker 3: and for those who are regular listeners to the show,

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Speaker 3: we do do a fantasy football segment sure, pretty much

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Speaker 3: in every show, and so we want to get to

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Speaker 3: that now. Yeah, let's tick again rolling through our mock

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Speaker 3: drafts here. Yesterday we drafted out of the ten ten spot,

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Speaker 3: ten spots.

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Speaker 4: That was our least favorite drafts. So yeah, today we

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Speaker 4: moved back up to the four spot.

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Speaker 3: We're using draft Wizard on fantasypros dot Com here, not

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Speaker 3: drafting a kicker. We don't do that. We do get

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Speaker 3: do it special teams. So we've got a wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, one quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers,

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Speaker 3: a tight end, av flex and a defense that are

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Speaker 3: in our starting line up here. So let's get rolling

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Speaker 3: with this one and see where we go with this

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Speaker 3: one today.

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Speaker 4: Four worries me because I really think in whatever order, Jefferson, McCaffrey,

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Speaker 4: and Eckler should be or my top three.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna be happy one of them. I will

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Speaker 3: tell you the team names here. First Fournette, Flix and Chill,

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Speaker 3: no pain, no gain. Well, uh, Jamark and me crazy.

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Speaker 3: We got us and then we got Tony and Clyde Sasquatch,

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Speaker 3: Barkley to Infinity and Bejon.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Acre is gonna fake. Can't stop the feeling the

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Speaker 3: theling I should say, stop the theling apple of my

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Speaker 3: ayuks bend it like Beckham and Bateman and Robin Back. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so we're picking forth. The first three picks were Justin

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Speaker 3: Jefferson one, Christian McCaffrey to Jamar Chase number three. Again,

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Speaker 3: this is a PPR and so your pick here is

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Speaker 3: just an echoler. That's that's pretty Yeah you are Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: like the league touchdowns the last two years, you just

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Speaker 4: I think that offensive chance will be really good this

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Speaker 3: Anybody else that you would consider there?

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Speaker 4: I know others consider Cooper Cup even at wide receiver too, Tyreek.

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Speaker 4: Before I take Cooper Cup, I say, I have I

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Speaker 4: keep moving Cup down. He's like my fifth receiver. I

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Speaker 4: even have digs ahead of him. Yeah. Yeah, I'm scared

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Speaker 4: of that whole lot. We're taking a yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we have to take a running back

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it depends on what's available. Yeah, it looks

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Speaker 3: like there's a run on wide receivers here actually. So

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Speaker 3: after our pick went Tyreek Hill, Cooper Cup, Travis Kelsey,

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Speaker 3: aj Brown, Ceed Lamb, Jean Robinson, Saquon Barkley, DeVante Adams

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Speaker 3: the final pick of round one. Diggs went with the

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Speaker 3: first pick of the second round and Taylor, Henry Pollard,

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Speaker 3: Saint Brown, Mahomes at two six, two seven, Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 3: to eight Deebo Samuel. The top suggestion for US is

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Speaker 3: Jlem Wattle. Also available Josh Jacobs, Nick Chubb, Chris olave

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Speaker 3: are the top suggestions. Uh Jacob's available for Mandree Stevenson available,

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Speaker 3: Nick Chubb, Priest Hall at wide receiver. It is Wattle,

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Speaker 4: I'm a big Nick Chubb guy. I mean I have

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that one.

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Speaker 4: I think that's I mean, yeah, yeah, and then I

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Speaker 3: Hard unless there's a third running back available when we

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Speaker 3: mean if for Mandre Stevenson is still there, I'd be

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Speaker 4: Would I would too?

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Speaker 3: Uh? He is not?

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Speaker 3: The pick right ahead of us at three three was

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Speaker 3: Najie Harris. So now the running backs available are Bres Hall,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I really like Hall, but there's more and

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Speaker 3: The receivers available T Higgins, Keenan Allen, DK Metcalf and Maury.

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Speaker 3: For tight end, Mark Andrews is available, Okay. At quarterback,

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Speaker 3: I don't mind, k I say Metcalf, I like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Metcalf's fine. All right, be my pick over here. Take Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 3: Really almost after right. Uh. Looking at the receivers of

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Speaker 3: the top choices available now for US, Chris Goblin, Drake London,

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Speaker 3: Yeah he's a starter for you. Yeah, he's gonna start

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Speaker 3: in your flex. You got three stud running backs?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I like that, And I think you.

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Speaker 3: Got you've got two running backs who are gonna catch

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Chubb could this year trouble catch more than

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So here we go We're back up

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Speaker 3: at five four. The top suggestions for us are DJ Moore,

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Speaker 4: I think I like Watson more than you do, but

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Speaker 4: DJ Moore is absolutely fine by me. I don't know who.

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Speaker 3: I trust DJ Moore and more than Christian Watson. I do,

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Speaker 3: And I know I know Fields isn't a great He's

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Speaker 3: for They just didn't protect from him. So he ran

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Speaker 4: They found something that worked to keep them, you know,

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Speaker 3: All Right, So we're cruising here. We're back up at

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The top players available tough suggestions for US are Brandon Ayuk,

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Speaker 3: Let's see what other receivers are real Treylon.

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Speaker 4: Burks Kittle's a nice value.

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Speaker 4: I mean getting kittled those late's kind of nice.

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Speaker 3: Kittle's there, Pits is there, Darren Waller is there, Dallas

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Speaker 4: I guess there's a chance one of them gets back

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Speaker 3: We're going to have another pick here coming up quickly?

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Speaker 3: Are we going to have a chance to get a Kittle?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's four tight ends that weren't bad.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have him in that order. What order would

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Speaker 3: you I would have Lawrence, I would have Dak, Lawrence,

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Speaker 4: I would go Lawrence, Dak Watson, Tua.

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Speaker 3: could stay healthy this year, he's a fantasy machine. I

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Speaker 3: mean he was he was on a tear last year injury.

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Speaker 3: Because he's got two great wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: So the reason I would lean tight end a little

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Speaker 4: don't take one. If we don't, this is going to

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Speaker 4: be a starter. Who were the best ones? Again, just

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Speaker 3: This, you got Brandon Ayuk, Jordan Addison, Traylon Burks, Jackson

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, I Ayuk and then Cooks

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Speaker 3: He's gonna catch all. He's gonna catch ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you take him, and then it's either

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Speaker 4: the best quarterback or tight end around to turn. Here.

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Speaker 4: I can live with him as my worst like position player,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Kittle went just ahead of us, so that

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Speaker 4: But still the quarterback or tight end.

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Speaker 3: The tight end is Goddard Pitts, Friarmouth, Ingram. At quarterback

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Speaker 3: it is Watson Prescott Tua and Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: I would probably go Goddard. I still adore Pits. Prescott's

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Speaker 3: That's a nice little Yeah. I kind of like that there.

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Speaker 4: I think like Friar Moth or Ingram will Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: taking one of those guys. No, that's a solid double

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Speaker 3: Call we got it, and Pitts just went so not surprising,

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Speaker 3: is still there, Pat Friarmuth, Falton Schultz, Greg Dulcic. We

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Speaker 3: gotta take one of those guys. I like Friarmuth better

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Speaker 4: I don't know who I like better than those two.

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Speaker 4: I go back and forth with that offense. Let's yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's close, it's close.

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Speaker 3: Just being Steeler Nation Radio. We must well take the Steeler.

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Speaker 4: He's been looking good the last two days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's going to be a big part

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Speaker 3: we filled our starting lineup. Now we've got to look

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't mind our fourth receiver being a little bit stronger.

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Speaker 3: Rashad Bateman, Quintin Johnson, Antonio Gibson, Evan Ingram are the

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Speaker 3: Let's take Bateman.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so Bateman is the pick.

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Speaker 3: That was pick one hundred. By the way, all right,

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Speaker 3: It's j Ryan, Rishard Penny, Jamal Williams, Jack McKinnon. Penny

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Speaker 3: We took him yesterday, taken him here, and there's a

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Speaker 4: He still might run for one hundred and twenty yards

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Speaker 3: Or make it. Yeah, you let him do that, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's just going too late in drafts period.

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Speaker 4: They both can do all this.

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Speaker 4: Sky Moore stands out. He might be their leading receiver.

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Speaker 4: I mean we even talked about the Tony injury. We were,

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Speaker 4: of course. But I'll take the best offense in e

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's that's great value there.

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Speaker 4: I like that a lot.

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Speaker 3: Now we can do pretty much whatever we want here.

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Speaker 3: We can go quarterback two is still available. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean there might be weeks we start him over Dak,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any given day, especially if their defense isn't as

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Speaker 3: So backup tight end here, Chick is available. Chick and

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Speaker 4: I like the first two a lot. Either's fine, Let's

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Speaker 4: take Chig. Okay, all right, Chick is the pick. We're

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Speaker 4: getting higgy with it. Hopkins doesn't worry me with Chick

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Speaker 4: all that month. No, No, they just need pass catchers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're rolling down here, so we got two spots

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Speaker 4: She kind of stands. I think we've talked about him

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Speaker 3: And the only thing stopping him from from real playing

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Speaker 4: Right, And who's going to be the third receiver anyway? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: right right? No, I like I think the Saints stole

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Speaker 3: We're coming up. Now. We got to take a defense here.

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Speaker 3: Top defense is available the Jets. That's not that Broncos, Ravens, Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: Jets are way better than all those scho got the

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Speaker 4: like they've got them ranked that the Steelers defense is

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Speaker 4: They would be.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be back over fifty sacks again this year.

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Speaker 4: I haven't started ranking yet, but I did put a

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Speaker 3: To me, it comes down to the Steelers or Jets.

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Speaker 4: I think the Jets are a really, really good defense.

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Speaker 3: The Jets strength of schedule is twenty nine. I bet

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Speaker 3: it's really yeeah, twenty ninth, whereas the Steelers strength of

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Speaker 4: Man, that's good to signing factor. Yeah, and you know

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Speaker 3: I'll take the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, him and them and Friarmouth can room together.

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Speaker 3: Looking here at our grade. We got an a minus

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Speaker 3: on that, one ninety out of one hundred. Much better

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Speaker 3: Well, actually signed up for it now, so we're getting

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: That was somebody tipped me off to that on Twitter

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Speaker 4: That is what.

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Speaker 3: So we end up with Dak Prescott at quarterback, Austin Ekelar,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it'd be worse. I don't hate that

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Speaker 4: when the third round rolled round of like our wide

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Speaker 3: Pat Friar moves at tight end. That's where we kind

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Speaker 3: of that's where we feel strongly that Friar moo's gonna

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Speaker 3: Jones is our flex that's strong. That's a really good

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Speaker 4: I'm cool with it.

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Speaker 3: I like our badge, Rashad Bateman, Rashad Penny. We got

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Speaker 4: Okay, two is your backup quarterback, that's awesome, and Aaron

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Speaker 3: And even our you know, our our fourth running back

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Speaker 4: Wheah right right, Yeah, that's what kind of I was thinking,

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Speaker 4: When you trade those two in cooks for a stud

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Speaker 3: And that's how you should look at trades, folks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: don't don't make a trade. Well, I'm gonna trade you

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Speaker 3: a wide receiver and a running back for another wide

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Speaker 3: receiver and running you spinding.

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Speaker 4: Your wheels more often than not.

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Speaker 3: More often than not, you're just trading your your problem

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Speaker 3: a spot that I'm weaker at because I'm gonna target

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Speaker 4: Because the drafted and they're scrambling like I'm owing two already,

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Speaker 4: That's why I use those names like to a penny,

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Speaker 4: because I don't trust them to play seventeen games and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, looking here at the draft, only one team went

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Speaker 4: Not bad, I'm Keen Allen's your third receiver. You'll take that.

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Speaker 4: They call that the hero running back build, not the

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Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, I mean a lot of people are liking that,

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Speaker 4: because they don't have down days as much. Either.

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Speaker 3: Three teams went running back running back. That was our

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Speaker 3: team with Austin Eckler and Nick Chubb. I can't believe

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Speaker 3: Chub fall. That's crazy right. The team that picked tenth

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Speaker 4: I don't like the last two all that month.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're Michael Thomas.

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Speaker 3: I mean five years ago, oh Evans.

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Speaker 4: I like the value on Lockett that late. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Three teams drafted defenses in round nine out of a

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Speaker 4: I don't see a number one defense that's definitely the

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Speaker 3: Forty nine went at nine to one, the Bills went

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Speaker 3: Different, but that's our that's our mock draft for today.

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Speaker 4: On I like that yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Draft Wizards, fantasypros dot Com. Uh, we'll be back

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Speaker 3: again tomorrow. I guess we'll be drafting U with nine

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Speaker 3: spot tomorrow. Okay, so we'll see where that comes out.

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Speaker 3: And I know some people on social media have asked, us, Hey,

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Speaker 3: do A do a U a super flex?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some point that's interesting because you get it. You

447
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Speaker 3: basically want to draft two quarterbacks. Oh yeah, quarterbacks go early.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll get to that at some point here.

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Speaker 3: But we're going to get through our regular snake drafts here.

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Speaker 3: More people do this, I think than.

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Speaker 4: Oh, no question about it. Like if it's a super flex,

452
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Speaker 4: there's like eight quarterbacks in the first round without a doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and two it doesn't last until round fourteen or no,

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Speaker 4: he's the second rounder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, but he is. Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawlly.

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Speaker 3: are live from Saint Vincent College here in a beautiful

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Speaker 3: lay Trow, Pennsylvania, where the Steelers wrapped up practice session

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Speaker 3: number two today on the field here in front of

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Speaker 3: about at about an hour and a half ago. And uh, well, Matt,

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Speaker 3: we saw Deontay Johnson Lee, we saw the Marvin Leal

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Speaker 3: leave and who was the third guy again.

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Speaker 4: High Smith got stepped on, but just hung around. He

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Speaker 4: didn't go anywhere. Hayward Connor Connor Heyward, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you have to that's a thing on this team. You

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Speaker 4: got to say her big or Hayward all right, all right.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, all left with the heat related issues today.

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Speaker 3: It was about ninety eight degrees here today and it's humid.

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Speaker 4: No, it was just hot. It was yeah, flat out hot. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was flat out hot. I thought yesterday was hot,

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Speaker 4: but it wasn't even close.

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Speaker 3: We also saw Patrick Peterson's get some time at free safety.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, moving him around a little bit. I really intrigued

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Speaker 4: with that. Yeah, it's funny. Before that happened, I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're a little light as Afy, a little lighted linebacker,

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Speaker 4: but maybe they're not light at safety. Yeah. Mean, if

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Speaker 4: he's if he's.

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Speaker 3: Very capable, you have you have other corners who are

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Speaker 3: capable too. So it's it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 4: Especially when the young corner steps up. Porter is a star,

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Speaker 4: you know, right right, and there's a spot for everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: then then it makes all kinds of sense real quick too.

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Speaker 4: On that note, I meant to say this earlier is

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Speaker 4: they were. I was doing a lot of work on

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Speaker 4: defensive personnel. They're not a real heavy nickel team. They're

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Speaker 4: they're usually base or dime. But dime can be four

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Speaker 4: corners and two safeties or three and three. But if

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Speaker 4: he's both, you know what I mean, you know, like

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Speaker 4: he could do both, you know, I mean all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you don't quite.

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Speaker 3: Know, you break the huddle and you know, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: see Peterson's on the field. I see two corners are

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Speaker 3: on the field. I see two safeties, I see three.

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Speaker 3: You know it can make it is make a Fitzpatrick

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Speaker 3: gonna slide up and cover the slide right right. Peterson

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Speaker 3: is the deep safety. You know, there's all kinds of

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Speaker 3: options that you can do with that.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not giving Edmunds a hard time at all,

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Speaker 4: but none of them are that prototypical strong safety, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean it may be Niel's out there and they'll

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Speaker 4: have a role, But if you have four corners including Peterson,

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Speaker 4: Kaz and Minka, well all those guys are cover guys. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean they're all cover guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It makes it interesting. And there were times last year

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Speaker 3: where Cam Sutton would bump back and play free safety.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just shows the intelligence. I mean, Cam

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Speaker 4: was well known as a very football intelligent guy, and

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Speaker 4: Peterson obviously is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, looking around the league here, Cordero, Patterson and we

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Speaker 3: talked about in the previous seven had a day of

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Speaker 3: rest on Friday. Thirty two year old player. You're going

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Speaker 3: to get that well, you know, at those positions.

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Speaker 4: I doubt someone's calling to trade for him, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: that happens.

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Speaker 3: When that happens to center. Matt Hennessy will get an

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Speaker 3: MRI for Falcons. Yeah, for an issue that related to

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Speaker 3: something he was dealing with last season. They'll know his

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Speaker 3: status tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I think he's the backup though, Okay, I forget who

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Speaker 4: their starter is, Dolmen I think yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. In Buffalo they signed cornerback Kyron Brown. Cam Danceler,

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Speaker 3: who was injured was released.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and these are botting the Rods. Cam Dancler used

545
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Speaker 4: to be a name, but he's bounced around the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. As you mentioned that Joe Burrow will miss several

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Speaker 3: weeks due to the calf strain he suffered during Thursday's practice.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what several weeks means. But now several is

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Speaker 3: more than a couple.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he won't play one preseason getting snap, I'm sure,

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Speaker 4: and he probably won't see the practice.

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Speaker 3: Field for at least ten days.

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Speaker 4: I mean, best case scenario.

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Speaker 3: Several leads me down the path that's going to be

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Speaker 3: at least three, and you know some of them miss

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Speaker 3: a couple that would be two, right right, right.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I thought same thing, which we know how

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Speaker 4: these work. Sometimes it's like he gonna be ready for the

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Speaker 4: opening day. Oh yeah, yeah, they said tomorrow, and then

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Speaker 4: you're a week away from opening day and it's like,

561
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Speaker 4: well he's so questionable, and yeah, some of these things

562
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Speaker 4: just don't go away quick.

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Speaker 3: Amari Cooper returned to practice today for the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: after missing the last three days due to a minor tweak.

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Speaker 3: As Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 4: Called it, okay, I don't expect them to have a

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Speaker 4: great year. I don't know. I'm not a huge Cooper believer.

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Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos activated wide receiver Kendall Hinton from the

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Speaker 3: pup list. They also signed white wide receiver Michael Bandy

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Speaker 3: and released wide receiver Nick Williams.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Hinton is the poor guy that had to play

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Speaker 4: quarterback during COVID.

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Speaker 3: Yes he is. How about this news out of Detroit

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Speaker 3: Jamison Williams won't practice Friday and it's considered day to

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Speaker 3: day with a leg injury.

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Speaker 4: This for a guy and he's always suspended who is.

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Speaker 3: Suspended the first six games of the season. He's also

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Speaker 3: now going to miss training camp practices as well.

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Speaker 4: And an hour maybe two hours ago, we talked about

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Speaker 4: Trey Lance's strange you know, you know, coming into the

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Speaker 4: league and Williams the same way. He came in with

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Speaker 4: an a cl played a little as rookie year. He

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Speaker 4: was actually my favorite receiver in that class. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I might regret that heavily and then you know, get

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Speaker 4: suspended in the off season. Now he's got something else again,

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Speaker 4: It's always something with him right now.

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Speaker 3: CJ. Gardner Johnson also not practicing and remains day to day.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought that was worse than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it turned and turned out to be something where

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Speaker 3: he's just gonna miss some time. But still, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I mean he was a new guy,

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Speaker 3: a big, big name signing for them and.

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Speaker 4: Not quite the Ramsey situation. But I mean, yeah, these

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Speaker 4: teams are gonna be precautionary right now too.

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Speaker 3: The Houston Texans signed offensive lineman George fant.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, and they had just re upped their right tackle.

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Speaker 4: Fants like a perfect sixth tackle or sixth offensive lineman,

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Speaker 4: third tackle.

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Speaker 3: As long as you don't have to play him, I bet.

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Speaker 4: They'll throw him out like a sixth offensive line up

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Speaker 4: here and there and run the football, you know. But

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised he hasn't been signed by now, not that

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Speaker 4: he's great.

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Speaker 3: As we mentioned, Jayalen Ramsey expected to be out until

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Speaker 3: December after undergoing a full moniscus repair. They were hopeful

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Speaker 3: that they could get in there and there were some

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Speaker 3: different procedures that they could do to make it a

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Speaker 3: nott of you know, to repair that. It ended up

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Speaker 3: being a full moniscus repair when they got in there,

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Speaker 3: and that will keep him out until about December.

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Speaker 4: And that seems optimistic even yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Once once December rolls around, that's just if he's getting back.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna take several weeks for him to

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Speaker 3: get his legs back under him.

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned the position he plays is an ideal

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Speaker 4: for that.

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Speaker 3: The Saints signed long snapper Zach would do a four

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Speaker 3: year extension. It's a long snapper for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the final big news of the day, Well, there's

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Speaker 3: a couple of things here yet still Dalvin Cook visiting

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Speaker 3: the Jets. Today. He had an appearance on Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: He said that he odds are pretty high he ends

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Speaker 3: up signing.

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Speaker 4: With New York.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean for pre Hall?

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Speaker 4: For pries Sall, I thought it was a red flag

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Speaker 4: when they drafted I is he from pitt you know,

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Speaker 4: because they already had Carter Hall was the second round pick.

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Speaker 4: That excuse me, they are in it to win it.

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Speaker 4: I mean they're being very aggressive. That's not a good

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Speaker 4: sign for Hall at all.

633
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Speaker 3: Not I agree with your Devin Witherspoon finally signed with

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks and he was the final final draft pick

635
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Speaker 3: who had yet to sign, So that that is done.

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Speaker 3: And Shack Barrett, who's returning from an achilles injury, had

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Speaker 3: two good days to start camp and was given today off.

638
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: Uh so he got uh.

639
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Speaker 3: Former Steeler Chris Hubbard is signed with the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realist he was still sicking around. Start for them.

641
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: Say they could use any help they can get. And

642
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Speaker 4: he has some possession, position, versatility.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might end up starting some games for them.

644
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Speaker 3: And then finally in Washington, nose tackle Deron Payin returned

645
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Speaker 3: to practice after missing the last two days. He's been

646
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Speaker 3: dealing with a toe injury, and for a guy like

647
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Speaker 3: Deran pain that toe has to handle a lot of weight.

648
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet it's painful.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you did there.

650
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Speaker 4: I see what you did there.

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Speaker 3: Very nice.

652
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Speaker 4: They gave him a huge pile of money too, so

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Speaker 4: they're probably being very precautionary with I would think.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: He's a big part of their defense. He's great, Yeah, good,

656
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Speaker 3: good football player. Uh, he's a nose tackle. But those

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Speaker 3: the tackles are getting paid right now. Yes, they are

658
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Speaker 3: running backs, aren't running backs aren't. Chris Jones could be next.

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Speaker 3: Chris Jones should be next. We'll see if he gets

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Speaker 3: everything that he wants out of that. Chief can't afford

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Speaker 3: for him to hold out too long. No, No, they

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Speaker 3: can't get that taken. Get that, get that dealt with.

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Speaker 4: That's a weird one, like Kelsey's making way under leaguement

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Speaker 4: or what he should. Yeah, mahomes now all of a

665
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Speaker 4: sudden not making what he should.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. So if you sign you know, you

667
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Speaker 3: mean signed Chris Jones to a new deal because he

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Speaker 3: held out. Now Kelsey's going, hey, yeah, what about me?

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Speaker 4: Or they both say we're going to Tom bradyot and

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Speaker 4: take under league market and are more under league average

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Speaker 4: for what they deserve. But that doesn't go real far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. We're gonna take another break. When we come back,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna hear from Matt Canada the interview I did

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Speaker 3: with him earlier today. He is Matt Williams and I

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Speaker 3: am Dale Lawlley. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy. We are live

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Speaker 3: from Saint Vincent College.

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Speaker 5: We'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lulli, He's Matt Williamson and this

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Speaker 3: is the Drive on Steven's Nation Radio and ESPN nine

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Speaker 3: to seventy. Of course, the steel was wrapped up their

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Speaker 3: second day of training camp practices here earlier earlier today

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Speaker 3: at Saint Princent College. Also earlier today, round lunchtime after

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Speaker 3: the morning walked through, I had an opportunity to sit

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Speaker 3: down with the offensive coordinator, Matt Canada for a little

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Speaker 3: one on one action and I wanted to play that

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Speaker 3: back to you. A lot of interesting stuff here that

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Speaker 3: Canada had to say. So let's get to that now.

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Speaker 3: First playing practice yesterday, deep shot the pickings. Was that

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Speaker 3: planned or was that just no organic?

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Speaker 7: Organic part of the play, part of the red coverage

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Speaker 7: was there was a mess round so you know, he

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Speaker 7: dictated it's one on one and obviously.

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Speaker 2: A little bit on the phone, little bout whatever.

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Speaker 4: But but it's a good you know, pack out with

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Speaker 4: you'll talk here.

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Speaker 6: Part of it of that movie.

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Speaker 2: But it was good. You know, I'm good to see

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Speaker 2: that we saw it. That's where the ball should have

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Speaker 2: gone based on the raid on that point, didn't quite

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Speaker 2: hit it.

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Speaker 3: When I talked to Kenny wednesday, he said that's one

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Speaker 3: of the things that he wants to do this year

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Speaker 3: is is when he does see those things, he wants

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Speaker 3: to make sure he takes advantage of that.

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Speaker 2: Is that part of the growth and progression. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think so, man.

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Speaker 7: Obviously it's a big point everybody's talking about, you know,

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Speaker 7: holding back. The goal is to win the games, right

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Speaker 7: And obviously you look at when we've talked before in

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Speaker 7: the past, but you know, rookie quarterbacks and those things

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Speaker 7: that McKenny from his first four or five games were

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Speaker 7: tough and me he talked about throwing in the fire

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Speaker 7: and playing good teams. Had a couple of time, you know,

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Speaker 7: Dolphins game blah blah blah, and then you saw him taking.

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Speaker 4: Care of the ball.

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Speaker 7: You know, there's a balance thereof to make sure we're

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Speaker 7: being aggressive enough to make the defense pay for giving

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Speaker 7: us opportunities. And it's also you know, being too aggressive

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Speaker 7: or reckless or whatever. And I think you learn that

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Speaker 7: as you play. And you know, Kenny's super smart doing

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Speaker 7: everything he can. But obviously you should expect a second

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Speaker 7: year of player who's had all this time to.

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Speaker 2: Do that more.

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Speaker 7: And obviously our other guys as well, there's a lot

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Speaker 7: you know, gp the second year player, Connor the second

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Speaker 7: year player, Jalen's the second year player, and with some

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Speaker 7: other guys who are young as well, Calvins the second

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Speaker 7: year player. I mean, we've got some weapons who you

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Speaker 7: know that next step should should show up on tak

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Speaker 7: and show up on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: Is that what I mean, everybody had talked to you

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Speaker 3: about here is excited about this team. Is that one

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Speaker 3: of the reasons why these guys all you get that

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Speaker 3: good core is all going into the unit.

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Speaker 7: I think you know two or three right when you

742
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Speaker 7: look at our offense, we've we've been young for a

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Speaker 7: couple of years. And when you are young, you know,

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Speaker 7: whenever sit there and say, oh, we're young. But this

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Speaker 7: unless the n daan started you know, as a true

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Speaker 7: rookie at left tackle. Now as you started as a rookie,

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Speaker 7: pass start as a rookie. KG played as a true

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Speaker 7: rookie his first year, then last. I mean, we've been

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Speaker 7: so now you look at it, the Elphins have been

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Speaker 7: in place, you know, in time, guys have learned it

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Speaker 7: that the plays off of the plays and everybody we

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Speaker 7: can know, like you have to have to be good.

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Speaker 2: You can now run because we understand the bass plays.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no point in running the playoff the play

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Speaker 7: if we're not getting a bass play executed correctly at

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Speaker 7: the right time. And so I think obviously rooks, we're

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Speaker 7: all excited and really really good players. We've got the

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Speaker 7: guys from the super strong up front, and they got some big,

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Speaker 7: big deal when he went up front.

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Speaker 2: I think our experience up front, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, when again went from somewhat of a young line,

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Speaker 7: so a very experienced offense. Ave you got Choops, He's

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Speaker 7: played a lot of ball. Danny's played a lot of ball,

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Speaker 7: Makes has played a lot of ball. Bringing Isaac and

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Speaker 7: he's played a lot of ball. And then you know,

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Speaker 7: Dan is holding on and fighting us this his third year,

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Speaker 7: and obviously if Broderick overtakes him, then there's a.

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Speaker 2: Reason he overtook him. So you're looking at really really.

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Speaker 7: Good players backed up by Dotson who started every you know,

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Speaker 7: played every snap last year. You know, so we got

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Speaker 7: some good some good guys in their kg's had a

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Speaker 7: whole season of starter.

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Speaker 6: So you look at the depth and experience up front.

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Speaker 6: That's where it starts.

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Speaker 3: I saw a stat at the NFL just put out today.

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Speaker 3: Kenny was second in the league last year in what

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Speaker 3: they call tight window throws. Right, I think his next

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Speaker 3: gen stat that the defenders within a yard of the

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Speaker 3: of the receiver is that I think is that a

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Speaker 3: product of guys not being able to get open bunch

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Speaker 3: is that a product of him making trusting the guys

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Speaker 3: that make plays a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's obviously, you know, there's a stat out

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Speaker 7: there that you know that that day is the most

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Speaker 7: open guy in the NFL. So you know, I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think I'm I'm minimizing the stats, but I think

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Speaker 7: it's all I think. I think Kenny's play last year,

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Speaker 7: probably if you if if you do it like we

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Speaker 7: do and watch every single snap in every single situation

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Speaker 7: after the buye was was better.

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Speaker 6: Than I think. Maybe statistically it might show I think

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Speaker 6: with what we asked.

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Speaker 7: Him to do and with the what the players did

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Speaker 7: around him, and again, it's everything we're ever gonna say

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Speaker 7: with this guy. This play didn't work well, the guy

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Speaker 7: ran the wrong you know, we're not ever gonna do that.

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Speaker 7: But there are things and Kenny certainly has and ub

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Speaker 7: Selffilly admits has a lot to improve upon. But you

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Speaker 7: know what about gets all the credit, gets all the blame,

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Speaker 7: and you know some you know, his third down numbers

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Speaker 7: are pretty you know, pretty good, especially when you think

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Speaker 7: about where we were prior to the buy and then

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Speaker 7: when we finished.

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Speaker 6: I think his you know, I think it's I think

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Speaker 6: he's coming. He can be better.

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Speaker 2: We all got to be better.

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Speaker 3: The offense, to your point, was much better in the

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Speaker 3: second half of the season in terms of moving the football,

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Speaker 3: third downs, things of that nature. Right, the red zone

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Speaker 3: still didn't get there. Is that a young quarterback issue?

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Speaker 2: Multiple things. It wasn't all him.

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Speaker 7: Again, we you know, we we obviously studied that and

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Speaker 7: that was my you know, we got there's no secret

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Speaker 7: we had it, but we we had critical mistakes down there,

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Speaker 7: and that's when they're magnified and sometimes they're you know,

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Speaker 7: they're they're double plays. I think's third down in the

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Speaker 7: red zone. I mean, that's a huge, huge play. You

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Speaker 7: can't have a mistake or a mister sigmon.

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Speaker 2: Or a for you know, poor foot work or whatever.

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Speaker 6: So it's not all you know, obviously experienced quarterbacks in that.

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Speaker 7: But it would be completely wrong to say it was

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Speaker 7: all just Kenny Be in a rookie year. And I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, we talk about the second year players taking

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Speaker 7: that jump to a third year player, the first year

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Speaker 7: to a second.

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Speaker 6: More experience up front, on and on and on.

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Speaker 7: But we obviously, you know, there have to be more

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Speaker 7: We have to execute those play.

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Speaker 2: We can't. We can't say hell where it was.

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Speaker 6: We got to execute it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So when you look at that, I mean, do

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Speaker 3: you do you sit and look at like what other

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Speaker 3: second year quarterbacks have done in recent years? Do you say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Because I think, you know, I think I said, I

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Speaker 7: think if you look at you know, rookies talk about

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Speaker 7: the picks and those things. You know, other really really

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Speaker 7: talented rookies who have gone on to have tremendous careers,

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Speaker 7: their rookie season might not have. You know, I think

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Speaker 7: you know, when you know, having a winning season, I

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Speaker 7: think there's some a lot to build upon.

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Speaker 6: And that's by no means being like it.

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Speaker 2: Was good enough.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't.

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Speaker 7: We have to score more points, but we have to

847
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Speaker 7: be more explosive, we have to do all those things,

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Speaker 7: but we have to make those plays.

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Speaker 2: So I don't I don't want to say, look, but

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Speaker 2: I think that you know, history's real.

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Speaker 7: You know the jump that you know there is there

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Speaker 7: is an expectation, a very fair expectation to expect a

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Speaker 7: player who played and got to start as.

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Speaker 2: Many games at any spot. That's what you know, you

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Speaker 2: see it, you learn it to be better. Yeah, the next.

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Speaker 7: You know, as we go and experience the reason those

857
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Speaker 7: guys continue to get better because they see.

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Speaker 3: It and the game flows down. When Mike was asked

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Speaker 3: about if there's a carryover from one season to the next,

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Speaker 3: a lot of the players have said, yeah, we have

861
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Speaker 3: that expectation of what we did in the second half

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Speaker 3: of last season's.

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Speaker 4: Wing to carryover.

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Speaker 3: Mike said he doesn't expect it, but if it does happen,

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Speaker 3: it'll be a nice, right surprise out of that. Is

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Speaker 3: that how coaches have to look.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think every year.

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Speaker 6: Is always different, right, I mean, you you have you

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Speaker 6: you know, you come into it.

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Speaker 7: I think there's there's a real confidence amongst our players

871
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Speaker 7: and our offensive unit of you know, we do know exactly.

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Speaker 2: Where we are, what we're doing.

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Speaker 7: We we're not rookies here and there young guys quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: that the trend, there's a lot of you know, there's

875
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 7: a lot of moving parts.

876
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: We don't have those now. So we do have an

877
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: expectation of.

878
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 7: What guys are good at, what they're not, what guys

879
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 7: have done that we need to get to the next

880
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 7: part of that, you know, whether it's a route tree or.

881
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: A blocking scheme.

882
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 7: Up front, and I think those the building blocks of

883
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 7: that are there, but every year is different, and you know,

884
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 7: I don't know we could say it's gonna be exactly

885
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 7: the same.

886
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: Obviously, we just want to win. However we find a

887
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: way to win.

888
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 6: We're gonna find a way to win.

889
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: It's part of that knowing exactly what you want to

890
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: be now, yeah.

891
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: I think so. But I think what you want to

892
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: be is what your players are. I think that's always

893
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: a thing.

894
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 7: You know, there is a I would say that was

895
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 7: a question I was trying. You know, I haven't charge

896
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 7: of the offense. That's everything is on me. There's no

897
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 7: point of that to that. But I you know, last

898
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 7: that last time we talked to a group. You know,

899
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna come gonna say like I'm just setting

900
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 7: the identity. I mean, it's a it's an organizational plan

901
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 7: and this thing. Once we get to that, that's my

902
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 7: job and our job as a staff to do that.

903
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 7: So I think, yes, you come through what you want to.

904
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: Be is still dictated by the.

905
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 7: Players you have and what they're good at and who

906
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 7: you have. So I think that part always changes. Probably

907
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 7: a coach's point. Every year, some guy, you know, some

908
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 7: guys jump from one to two, maybe even more than

909
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 7: we anticipate some guy may not. So I think you

910
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 7: never know quite what you're going to be, but there

911
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 7: certainly is a foundation on who we want to be,

912
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 7: the style of of all we want to play, and

913
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 7: we know we.

914
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 4: Need to be you know, want to be more explosive than.

915
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 7: To your question, We've got to be more you know,

916
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 7: we've got to be more productive in the red zone,

917
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 7: and our players know that and we're all, you know.

918
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: Focusing on I think O Mars said yesterday, we want

919
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: to be a team that if we need to score

920
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: twelve points to win, we can do that. Obviously, if

921
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: we could score four, we need to score forty, we

922
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: can win. You know, he said, I feel like we

923
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: have the guys.

924
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: That we can do that.

925
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more with that statement. To me, that's

926
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Speaker 2: that's you know. I think that numbers are great and

927
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: then they're in. They're all and we use them when

928
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: they're good. But like all that matter, just winning. I

929
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: said that a.

930
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 7: Lot, and it's one more point than the team you're

931
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: playing and in the game that you're playing at the

932
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 7: time and at the end of the year, if you

933
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 7: play that way, then oh, you're ranked your hand and

934
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 7: obviously I'm not. We have to score more points to

935
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 7: make it. And there's games that shouldn't have been as

936
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Speaker 7: post that we won.

937
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: And a couple of games we had multiple turnovers that

938
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Speaker 2: we you know.

939
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 7: We've got to be better. But I think all that

940
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 7: matters in the game is winning. And when you get

941
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 7: into a game, when you're in it, and when you're

942
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 7: on the phone with Week, oh this is this is

943
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 7: a situation. We're gonna do this to make sure we win.

944
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 7: We're not out there saying well, let's try to score

945
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 7: two more so you know that's not That's not how

946
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 7: you build a championship team.

947
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: That's not the way this organization is built.

948
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 6: So that's not where we are.

949
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 7: But I completely agree with him that based on whatever

950
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 7: game it is, if we need to go fast, I

951
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 7: think last year the second game against the Bengals, you know,

952
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 7: we had a tremendous first half, scored some points and

953
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 7: went out and had some real critical mistakes that stalled

954
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 7: some drives that we have to you know, depends on how.

955
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: The games were.

956
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: If the games are tight, win and close the risks.

957
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 7: You know, this first reward I think that's something that

958
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 7: we obviously that's you know, that's what we.

959
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: Have to do.

960
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: I think that's one thing.

961
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: Like so last year's AFC Change Piship game, you get

962
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: the Bengals and the Chiefs twenty three twenty game, right,

963
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: everybody says, all you gotta be able to go out

964
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: and outscore the Chiefs. Yeah, you have to outscore them,

965
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: but the average twenty eight points a game. Last year,

966
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: they had more games where they didn't score thirty, right,

967
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: and where they did right.

968
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: So to your point, it is, it is the game, you.

969
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 7: Know, and at the end, and obviously there are things

970
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 7: that carry over. Your efficiency on third down, your your

971
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 7: red zone product, you know, I think those are real

972
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 7: and I'm not minimizing those. There are key statistics, you know,

973
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 7: turned over. I mean, then we can go through why

974
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 7: we didn't win some games and they come into those

975
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 7: key key areas.

976
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: Or key analytic areas that we're talking about.

977
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Speaker 7: But then as a whole, I mean, as the game's

978
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 7: going on, we're sitting there talking, hey, we got him here,

979
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 7: we're up by this, We're gonna do this, We're gonna

980
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 7: you know, we want to get out of there and

981
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 7: go to locker room and have a win and move

982
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 7: on to the next one. And that's that's the only

983
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 7: goal we have, which is that's why it's great to

984
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 7: work there.

985
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Speaker 3: Last one for you here, Kenny, when I talked to him,

986
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Speaker 3: said he want he feels like he has a more

987
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: He has a much better command of the offense.

988
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: He understands, you know, the big picture now. And part

989
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: of that's also.

990
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: Him being more involved in him. What you're doing is

991
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: to your point of you build around what your guys do. Sure,

992
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: could you do that as much last year with a

993
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: rookie because he's new to you?

994
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: You know, well, it wasn't even just I mean you

995
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: think about it.

996
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 6: Last year we came in and Mitch, Mitch was a starter.

997
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I don't think there's we haven't changed.

998
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: Every week we go in and I'm.

999
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 7: Gonna say to the starting quarterback, whether you know, my

1000
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 7: whole career, but with man with it.

1001
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: What do you like and what are we doing? That's

1002
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: what we're going, that's what we're called, that's what we're

1003
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: going to practice. Call that's it because you want the

1004
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: quarterback to be happy.

1005
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 7: But obviously with that quarterback change, and he was a

1006
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 7: rookie who didn't way and didn't get those reps in camp.

1007
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 7: I mean, so I think there's a naturally, a real

1008
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 7: solid reason to why Kenny feels that way. He's more involved,

1009
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 7: but he is, he's the starter now, so those conversations

1010
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 7: are taking place with him. Where a year ago through

1011
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 7: the spring and that, you know, we were talking and

1012
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 7: there was a lot but he was just learning the

1013
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 7: offense and probably Mitch who played a lot of ball,

1014
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 7: and we're probably more privy to that. So certainly now

1015
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 7: it's where he's at and he's more comfortable. He can

1016
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 7: see things, he can flip things, he can do different things.

1017
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Speaker 3: Now. That was myself with Steelers offensive coordinator Matt Canada

1018
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: earlier today talking about, you know, just the progression of

1019
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: the offense and Kenny Pickett and the expectations and well

1020
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Speaker 3: pretty much everything there. You know, you heard a lot

1021
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Speaker 3: of different stuff there, but that is going to do

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Speaker 3: it for our show today and for our coverage here

1023
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Speaker 3: from Saint Vincent College, for my partner Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie.

1024
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1025
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1026
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Speaker 3: you listening to the Drive. We'll be back again tomorrow

1027
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1028
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Speaker 3: Not off again until Monday, so lots of action going

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