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Speaker 1: best game in the world again seven thirty pm octobern

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Speaker 1: Darnald's gonna keep and get it into the end zone

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. All eyes to McCaffrey and Sam. Donald

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Speaker 1: Donald's throw cast call touchdown Miller Christian dol handoff here

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown to tell me troumble. Darnald takes it

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Speaker 1: hits Houston, a blizzard's coming. Nine quarterback sacks on Davis

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Speaker 1: Mills as the Panthers win. I'm Greg ros down with

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Speaker 1: that we thought would go a certain type of way. Danny.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you can catch Danny over at The Ringer

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Speaker 1: The Ringers Fantasy Football Show. Uh, and it went that way,

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Speaker 1: it didn't go there. For about a half we thought,

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Speaker 1: season in a fun, meaningful way. I don't think you

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