Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk a little bit about Housewives today,
Speaker 1: not the show. I don't want to talk about the show,
Speaker 1: about a couple of things that came out this week
Speaker 1: in the media that are about a bigger conversation, a
Speaker 1: bigger topic. So Teresa who married? I think it's Louis
Speaker 1: or Louis ruey Less, who I met one night at
Speaker 1: this MTV Awards event and he was really really nice.
Speaker 2: And I like Teresa. I don't know her that well.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like people assume that all the housewives
Speaker 1: know each other and we talk about each other, but
Speaker 1: we don't know each other.
Speaker 2: Some do.
Speaker 1: Some are really good friends, you know, especially across different franchises.
Speaker 1: But I've met Teresa probably less than a handful fewer
Speaker 1: than an handful of times, and the only time I
Speaker 1: really ever spoke to her was in a dressing room
Speaker 1: at Watch What Happens Live, and I have watched from Afar.
Speaker 1: I like, I just think Teresa's a great television character.
Speaker 1: I am sure that I put her on my Mount
Speaker 1: Rushmore and she's one of the people that I feel like,
Speaker 1: overall has pretty much put it all out there on
Speaker 1: reality TV, and I respect that and I remember watching
Speaker 1: Jersey for the first time because I think they were
Speaker 1: next before Atlanta, and i'd have been. I don't know
Speaker 1: who was first, but we were New York and and
Speaker 1: Orange County was first. We were second, and we were
Speaker 1: originally supposed to be called Manhattan Moms, and when they
Speaker 1: changed it to Real Housewives, we didn't love that idea.
Speaker 1: And then we heard the Jersey was coming in and Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and we were sort of like threatened or competitive or confused.
Speaker 1: And I remember Teresa coming on and paying a lot
Speaker 1: of cash for furniture in this suburban Jersey home and
Speaker 1: that was crazy. Later when they got into financial troubles
Speaker 1: and then she sadly went to jail, which is heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: leaving her daughters. And she was really strong and she's
Speaker 1: got to be a really tough woman to endure that.
Speaker 2: And Joe is living his best life now.
Speaker 1: He's posting Juicy Joe, and you know, it's just he's
Speaker 1: a funny character. He's got his own little thing going.
Speaker 1: And she's married to the Sky and she seems madly
Speaker 1: in love. And I said on social media when she
Speaker 1: was on watching Rappins Live, I said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: jump through my phone if she doesn't sign a prenup,
Speaker 1: just it doesn't matter what your financial situation is. Who
Speaker 1: has more money than who? And when it's almost like
Speaker 1: the way that serotonin happens in azytocin, when you're first
Speaker 1: in a relationship and you're intimate and you feel connected,
Speaker 1: and you could feel like you love someone even if
Speaker 1: you don't actually love them. You just feel things that
Speaker 1: may not be in sustainable reality. And that's what happens
Speaker 1: too with when you're getting married. That's the new car smell.
Speaker 1: If your car ten years later still smells like the
Speaker 1: day you got it, then I'm going to put you
Speaker 1: in the Smithsonian, because that's the point.
Speaker 2: Like it will.
Speaker 1: Something will spill, things will happen, and life will get
Speaker 1: a hold of that car and wear and tear, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be a different situation. And eventually you
Speaker 1: might want to keep it as a classic car and
Speaker 1: always appreciate it. You also might want to upgrade it,
Speaker 1: you might want to sell it, you might want.
Speaker 2: To torch it.
Speaker 1: And relationships certainly do not evolve into the same thing
Speaker 1: that they were the day you walked in. And I
Speaker 1: don't even think I know that, Teresa, and everybody should
Speaker 1: be signing a prenup no matter what their financial situation is,
Speaker 1: and so I guess they have some tax issues. And
Speaker 1: they were spending like drunken sailors too. I remember someone
Speaker 1: from the Housewives was telling me that Teresa had a
Speaker 1: new boyfriend and he's flying her private and I was
Speaker 1: like hmm, and then that he's on the show, and
Speaker 1: I was like, hmm. It just doesn't seem like someone
Speaker 1: who's flying private is going to be on that dumpster
Speaker 1: fire of a show. And Caroline Manzo described it best
Speaker 1: like somebody like if you hang up by dumpster, you're
Speaker 1: gonna smell like garbage or something. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm about to prove that all of this is
Speaker 1: a dumpster fire. And there are devout Bravo defenders like
Speaker 1: these bloggers that will come in and be like Bethany
Speaker 1: made all her money from there, and now she wants
Speaker 1: to bite the hand that feeds you.
Speaker 2: That's just very stupid.
Speaker 1: First of all, I've made much much more money off
Speaker 1: of television and doing things that have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that original platform. And I got myself on The Apprentice,
Speaker 1: I got myself on the Housewives, I got myself offered
Speaker 1: a TV show at the same time as I was
Speaker 1: offered to the Housewives, which is why they scrambled to
Speaker 1: get everybody's contract signed because I was about to film
Speaker 1: a different show. When I had been talking to the
Speaker 1: housewives and they got real they hustled real fast because
Speaker 1: they were like, wait a second, she's about to do
Speaker 1: something else. So I've had opportunities, so take it easy.
Speaker 2: Slower.
Speaker 1: Role I used to was, I was the largest importer
Speaker 1: of pashmina in the world when I had Princess Peshmina.
Speaker 1: When I started importing thousands, tens of thousands at dolls
Speaker 1: a peesh medias from India before it was a thing.
Speaker 1: I used to produce large scale events like the rock
Speaker 1: on Alcatraz con Air. I was always somebody who was
Speaker 1: going to be successful. Sorry not sorry. If you are
Speaker 1: a successful person, you will be successful anywhere. And compare
Speaker 1: my success to anyone else on the Housewives. Okay, I'll wait,
Speaker 1: because being on TV doesn't mean you're going to be successful.
Speaker 1: It's actually fools gold and many people have started businesses
Speaker 1: and seeing how hard it actually is. Meaning I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that Sonya has made a successful living being on television.
Speaker 1: And the same thing goes for Teresa or Cheer or
Speaker 1: all these people that are you know that I actually
Speaker 1: really like and respect and cheer for and Gretchen and
Speaker 1: all these people. But any of them who have been
Speaker 1: in business will tell you it is not as easy
Speaker 1: as it looks because you have to run a business
Speaker 1: operated business, You have to deal with a lot of things.
Speaker 1: So we are not That's like saying Kim Kardashian is
Speaker 1: who she is because of her sex tape. Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: is who she is because she's a boss bitch. And
Speaker 1: whether it was a sex tape or cooking show, she
Speaker 1: was going to go. She wanted it, she was going,
Speaker 1: and she went, and she paved the way for her
Speaker 1: entire family, including her mother, her sisters. It's all on
Speaker 1: her back. She rules, She who makes the goal, makes
Speaker 1: the rules, and it's her world and they're all living
Speaker 1: in it at this point. So I am and I
Speaker 1: can speak on something that I was a part of
Speaker 1: that I chose to leave. Had I gotten fired and
Speaker 1: was being bitter, that would be different. I chose to
Speaker 1: leave twice and not go back and not do another
Speaker 1: thing with them because I didn't want to be there.
Speaker 1: So what I want to say to you is something
Speaker 1: that I posted about on social media is that you
Speaker 1: know it makes me say so. Jen Aiden also has
Speaker 1: a situation. I think it's filing bankruptcy. So I started
Speaker 1: to think about the keeping up with the Joneses, and
Speaker 1: I started to think about Alex and Simon season one
Speaker 1: talking about society and the ballet and Jill talking about
Speaker 1: running with a fab group of people and the high
Speaker 1: society and looking through the invitations and you know, and
Speaker 1: I remember the quote unquote real socialites being enraged because
Speaker 1: we were representing New York and calling ourselves socialites and
Speaker 1: I wasn't, but people were calling themselves socialites, and it
Speaker 1: was making the real socialites crazy because we were anything,
Speaker 1: but no one was a socialite. But it was about
Speaker 1: fronting and stunting. You saw Alex and Simon spent thirty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in Saint Bart's and years later I think
Speaker 1: they either did bankruptcy or foreclosure. There was some issue
Speaker 1: with them. And the thing is it happens to a
Speaker 1: lot of people. No shame, and no shame on them
Speaker 1: for all putting their best financial flex forward because that's
Speaker 1: what people want on television, and that's how they had
Speaker 1: a television career, meaning that's what Bravo wanted. So if
Speaker 1: Bravo says I want you to wear a blue sweater,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear a blue sweater because it's going to
Speaker 1: mean I'm going to be on TV and be successful.
Speaker 1: But it's a self fulfilling prophecy for misery because what
Speaker 1: happens is I've seen so many people spend so much
Speaker 1: and the outfits and every and popping tags, and people
Speaker 1: are spending more money than they're actually making because they
Speaker 1: are spending ahead of their own personal brand, thinking that
Speaker 1: the more that they spend, the more that they look
Speaker 1: like a good character, the more they're keeping up with
Speaker 1: the other characters, the more storyline they have, and the
Speaker 1: more they'll get another season. I mean, Erica Jane was,
Speaker 1: you know, flying private and buying all the things, and
Speaker 1: her husband was a thief. I knew that her husband
Speaker 1: was a thief because my ex knew him and told
Speaker 1: me early on when she first came on the show
Speaker 1: that her husband was a thief.
Speaker 2: And I told.
Speaker 1: Andy Cohen and Kyle And that happens a lot in
Speaker 1: this franchise where you hear there's somebody on Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: that in the beginning someone said to me, this other
Speaker 1: person doesn't really have it like that. These are the
Speaker 1: reasons why in this franchise, people on the same cast
Speaker 1: will always sort of set the record straight and say, well,
Speaker 1: their house costs this. So this happens. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a very vile world. And so I did something on
Speaker 1: social media saying you have Teresa and Louie having tax issues,
Speaker 1: which she already had a big problem in her life
Speaker 1: and she did not sign a prenup, and then you
Speaker 1: have Jen aied in right now with these issues. So
Speaker 1: the thing that's interesting is that of the people with
Speaker 1: legal financial trouble, they're serious, and also the arrested and
Speaker 1: gone to jail like their serious financial trouble and lawsuits.
Speaker 1: You have what happened with Teresa that we know. You
Speaker 1: have Jen Shaw, which is a serious, serious situation going
Speaker 1: to prison. You have Erica Jane and the Tom situation.
Speaker 1: You have Kim Richards. You have dor Eaton p Que
Speaker 1: being sued about being sued for the swimsuit line, but
Speaker 1: the claims were dropped. You have Apollo Nita, who is
Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Atlanta, husband of Phedra went to prison. Sonya,
Speaker 1: you had bankruptcy, the Karen and Ray Huber, you had
Speaker 1: them owing back to federal taxes and millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk that much. Nina isn't me.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't play favorites.
Speaker 1: But Nini has had tax leans and back rent issues.
Speaker 1: Margaret jo sucks, Kelly Dodd and her husband had an issue,
Speaker 1: Peggy from Orange County, Jacqueline Marita, Robin Dixon, Chara.
Speaker 2: I mean, it goes. It's pages and pages of this choose,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I can't blame these women because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure in this environment.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure in this.
Speaker 1: Environment to keep up with the Joneses, and it's sad
Speaker 1: and it's a little toxic, and you just you know,
Speaker 1: so when I talk about this environment and forget like
Speaker 1: the other people on Bravo, forget James Kennedy and all
Speaker 1: that type of stuff, I mean, it's just it's rampant.
Speaker 1: So what is it that makes a person who is
Speaker 1: flying too close to the sun financially.
Speaker 2: Legally, et cetera, that is attracted to this medium? What
Speaker 2: is it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Twenty five percent of all housewives have been in legal trouble.
Speaker 1: Think about that statistic. Twenty five percent of housewives have
Speaker 1: been in legal trouble. The most common crime of this
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of house wise is fraud, okay, fraud.
Speaker 1: The second most common crime is as salt So you're
Speaker 1: on a show where they don't cast you if you
Speaker 1: don't appear to be rich or are actually rich.
Speaker 2: The difference doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You're on a show where ames bags are being shown
Speaker 1: with a chiron saying how much they cost, and front
Speaker 1: and center by the camera, and people are always arguing
Speaker 1: about what people do or don't have, or fronting and
Speaker 1: stunting clothes, fake reel, all that stuff. It's a flex
Speaker 1: and it's a pressure. You have all these abcdfg's head
Speaker 1: to toe logos. The competition is fierce. You can see
Speaker 1: it so much. You see it so much on Salt Lake.
Speaker 1: You see it's so much on Beverly Hills, you see
Speaker 1: it's so much on Atlanta. It's Siri Miami.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The second most common crime is assault. How many times
Speaker 1: have you seen a wineglass throw and a weave ripped
Speaker 1: something happened on Potomac when I watched it to rewatch it.
Speaker 1: So you have fraud where everyone's fronting and stunting, and
Speaker 1: assault where everybody is either verbally or physically abusing each
Speaker 1: other on this show. So you can hate me, don't
Speaker 1: hate the player, hate the game. I don't carry the way.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you something smells and it's toxic because
Speaker 1: it's a dumpster. Lisa Renna was courageous to say that
Speaker 1: she was sort of in the mind control program, and
Speaker 1: she went right back to it when she was talking
Speaker 1: to Andy Cohen because she said something that she seemingly
Speaker 1: meant and Andy called her on it, and she sort
Speaker 1: of coward because back when you were on that show,
Speaker 1: you kind of just felt like you had to kiss
Speaker 1: the ring, protect the realm. And Andy's word was the
Speaker 1: word of God. And Lisa was courageous enough to stand
Speaker 1: on her own two feet. She's got a modeling career. She's,
Speaker 1: you know, a woman of a certain age who's now
Speaker 1: doing fashion and fashion week and modeling. She's had a
Speaker 1: whole second chapter, third chapter, fourth chapter. She's she's you know,
Speaker 1: has a different career, and she's somehow on a cellular
Speaker 1: level realized that.
Speaker 2: They don't own her anymore, and good for her.
Speaker 1: So the girls, some girls were talking.
Speaker 2: I saw my comments.
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't hear it, But on my comments
Speaker 1: people were saying that some people were saying that I
Speaker 1: was saying bad things about Teresa's financial situation. I didn't
Speaker 1: say one bad thing about her or her financial situation.
Speaker 1: I have sympathy and feel badly because love is blind,
Speaker 1: and she loves this guy, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: they were in it together and you know, flying too
Speaker 1: close to the financial sun, or he was doing things
Speaker 1: she didn't know about, or what happened. And it's not
Speaker 1: easy to know everything about taxes. It's not easy to
Speaker 1: be financially literate.
Speaker 2: Believe me.
Speaker 1: If you are not good at that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: which I am not. I am conceptually but not literally,
Speaker 1: you better have good people around you that you can trust,
Speaker 1: and you better be always double checking them and making
Speaker 1: sure and babysitting them and auditing them and letting them
Speaker 1: know that you know, being on top of your game.
Speaker 1: But the two of them got themselves into some issues,
Speaker 1: and I strongly hope that her not having signed a
Speaker 1: prenup doesn't come back to haunt her because in the beginning,
Speaker 1: everybody's got a plan until you get punched in the face. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's what I said about that, and I am
Speaker 1: completely entitled to talk about it as a person who
Speaker 1: has a podcast, as a person who's been on the show,
Speaker 1: as a person who left the show, and as a
Speaker 1: person who's got facts and receipts and statistics that don't lie.
Speaker 1: The numbers don't lie. In your normal life, you do
Speaker 1: not know twenty five percent of people that have gotten
Speaker 1: into financial trouble or been arrested. Like that's not even
Speaker 1: including the arrest You just don't know people that this
Speaker 1: high proportion of people that have been arrested for fraud
Speaker 1: or filed for bankruptcy. So think about what we are
Speaker 1: watching and what we are allowing our kids to watch,
Speaker 1: and what society is allowing to be normalized.