1 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk a little bit about Housewives today, 2 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: not the show. I don't want to talk about the show, 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: about a couple of things that came out this week 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: in the media that are about a bigger conversation, a 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: bigger topic. So Teresa who married? I think it's Louis 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: or Louis ruey Less, who I met one night at 7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: this MTV Awards event and he was really really nice. 8 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: And I like Teresa. I don't know her that well. 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: It's sort of like people assume that all the housewives 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: know each other and we talk about each other, but 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: we don't know each other. 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Some do. 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Some are really good friends, you know, especially across different franchises. 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: But I've met Teresa probably less than a handful fewer 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: than an handful of times, and the only time I 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: really ever spoke to her was in a dressing room 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: at Watch What Happens Live, and I have watched from Afar. 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: I like, I just think Teresa's a great television character. 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: I am sure that I put her on my Mount 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: Rushmore and she's one of the people that I feel like, 21 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: overall has pretty much put it all out there on 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: reality TV, and I respect that and I remember watching 23 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: Jersey for the first time because I think they were 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: next before Atlanta, and i'd have been. I don't know 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: who was first, but we were New York and and 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: Orange County was first. We were second, and we were 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: originally supposed to be called Manhattan Moms, and when they 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: changed it to Real Housewives, we didn't love that idea. 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: And then we heard the Jersey was coming in and Atlanta, 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: and we were sort of like threatened or competitive or confused. 31 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: And I remember Teresa coming on and paying a lot 32 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: of cash for furniture in this suburban Jersey home and 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: that was crazy. Later when they got into financial troubles 34 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: and then she sadly went to jail, which is heartbreaking, 35 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: leaving her daughters. And she was really strong and she's 36 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: got to be a really tough woman to endure that. 37 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: And Joe is living his best life now. 38 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: He's posting Juicy Joe, and you know, it's just he's 39 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: a funny character. He's got his own little thing going. 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: And she's married to the Sky and she seems madly 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: in love. And I said on social media when she 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: was on watching Rappins Live, I said, I'm going to 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: jump through my phone if she doesn't sign a prenup, 44 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: just it doesn't matter what your financial situation is. Who 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: has more money than who? And when it's almost like 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: the way that serotonin happens in azytocin, when you're first 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: in a relationship and you're intimate and you feel connected, 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: and you could feel like you love someone even if 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: you don't actually love them. You just feel things that 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: may not be in sustainable reality. And that's what happens 51 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: too with when you're getting married. That's the new car smell. 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: If your car ten years later still smells like the 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: day you got it, then I'm going to put you 54 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: in the Smithsonian, because that's the point. 55 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Like it will. 56 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Something will spill, things will happen, and life will get 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: a hold of that car and wear and tear, and 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: it's going to be a different situation. And eventually you 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: might want to keep it as a classic car and 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: always appreciate it. You also might want to upgrade it, 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: you might want to sell it, you might want. 62 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: To torch it. 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: And relationships certainly do not evolve into the same thing 64 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: that they were the day you walked in. And I 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: don't even think I know that, Teresa, and everybody should 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: be signing a prenup no matter what their financial situation is, 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: and so I guess they have some tax issues. And 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: they were spending like drunken sailors too. I remember someone 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: from the Housewives was telling me that Teresa had a 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: new boyfriend and he's flying her private and I was 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: like hmm, and then that he's on the show, and 72 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: I was like, hmm. It just doesn't seem like someone 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: who's flying private is going to be on that dumpster 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: fire of a show. And Caroline Manzo described it best 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: like somebody like if you hang up by dumpster, you're 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna smell like garbage or something. I mean, you know, 77 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: And I'm about to prove that all of this is 78 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: a dumpster fire. And there are devout Bravo defenders like 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: these bloggers that will come in and be like Bethany 80 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: made all her money from there, and now she wants 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: to bite the hand that feeds you. 82 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: That's just very stupid. 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: First of all, I've made much much more money off 84 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: of television and doing things that have nothing to do 85 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: with that original platform. And I got myself on The Apprentice, 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I got myself on the Housewives, I got myself offered 87 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: a TV show at the same time as I was 88 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: offered to the Housewives, which is why they scrambled to 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: get everybody's contract signed because I was about to film 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: a different show. When I had been talking to the 91 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: housewives and they got real they hustled real fast because 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: they were like, wait a second, she's about to do 93 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: something else. So I've had opportunities, so take it easy. 94 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: Slower. 95 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: Role I used to was, I was the largest importer 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: of pashmina in the world when I had Princess Peshmina. 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: When I started importing thousands, tens of thousands at dolls 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: a peesh medias from India before it was a thing. 99 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: I used to produce large scale events like the rock 100 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: on Alcatraz con Air. I was always somebody who was 101 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: going to be successful. Sorry not sorry. If you are 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: a successful person, you will be successful anywhere. And compare 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: my success to anyone else on the Housewives. Okay, I'll wait, 104 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: because being on TV doesn't mean you're going to be successful. 105 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: It's actually fools gold and many people have started businesses 106 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: and seeing how hard it actually is. Meaning I'm so 107 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: glad that Sonya has made a successful living being on television. 108 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: And the same thing goes for Teresa or Cheer or 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: all these people that are you know that I actually 110 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: really like and respect and cheer for and Gretchen and 111 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: all these people. But any of them who have been 112 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: in business will tell you it is not as easy 113 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: as it looks because you have to run a business 114 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: operated business, You have to deal with a lot of things. 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: So we are not That's like saying Kim Kardashian is 116 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: who she is because of her sex tape. Kim Kardashian 117 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: is who she is because she's a boss bitch. And 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: whether it was a sex tape or cooking show, she 119 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: was going to go. She wanted it, she was going, 120 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: and she went, and she paved the way for her 121 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: entire family, including her mother, her sisters. It's all on 122 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: her back. She rules, She who makes the goal, makes 123 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: the rules, and it's her world and they're all living 124 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: in it at this point. So I am and I 125 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: can speak on something that I was a part of 126 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: that I chose to leave. Had I gotten fired and 127 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: was being bitter, that would be different. I chose to 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: leave twice and not go back and not do another 129 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: thing with them because I didn't want to be there. 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: So what I want to say to you is something 131 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: that I posted about on social media is that you 132 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: know it makes me say so. Jen Aiden also has 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: a situation. I think it's filing bankruptcy. So I started 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: to think about the keeping up with the Joneses, and 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: I started to think about Alex and Simon season one 136 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: talking about society and the ballet and Jill talking about 137 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: running with a fab group of people and the high 138 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: society and looking through the invitations and you know, and 139 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: I remember the quote unquote real socialites being enraged because 140 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: we were representing New York and calling ourselves socialites and 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't, but people were calling themselves socialites, and it 142 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: was making the real socialites crazy because we were anything, 143 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: but no one was a socialite. But it was about 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: fronting and stunting. You saw Alex and Simon spent thirty 145 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in Saint Bart's and years later I think 146 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: they either did bankruptcy or foreclosure. There was some issue 147 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: with them. And the thing is it happens to a 148 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of people. No shame, and no shame on them 149 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: for all putting their best financial flex forward because that's 150 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: what people want on television, and that's how they had 151 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: a television career, meaning that's what Bravo wanted. So if 152 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Bravo says I want you to wear a blue sweater, 153 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear a blue sweater because it's going to 154 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: mean I'm going to be on TV and be successful. 155 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: But it's a self fulfilling prophecy for misery because what 156 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: happens is I've seen so many people spend so much 157 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: and the outfits and every and popping tags, and people 158 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: are spending more money than they're actually making because they 159 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: are spending ahead of their own personal brand, thinking that 160 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: the more that they spend, the more that they look 161 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: like a good character, the more they're keeping up with 162 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: the other characters, the more storyline they have, and the 163 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: more they'll get another season. I mean, Erica Jane was, 164 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, flying private and buying all the things, and 165 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: her husband was a thief. I knew that her husband 166 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: was a thief because my ex knew him and told 167 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: me early on when she first came on the show 168 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: that her husband was a thief. 169 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: And I told. 170 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Andy Cohen and Kyle And that happens a lot in 171 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: this franchise where you hear there's somebody on Beverly Hills 172 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: that in the beginning someone said to me, this other 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: person doesn't really have it like that. These are the 174 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: reasons why in this franchise, people on the same cast 175 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: will always sort of set the record straight and say, well, 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: their house costs this. So this happens. I mean, it's 177 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: a very vile world. And so I did something on 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: social media saying you have Teresa and Louie having tax issues, 179 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: which she already had a big problem in her life 180 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: and she did not sign a prenup, and then you 181 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: have Jen aied in right now with these issues. So 182 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: the thing that's interesting is that of the people with 183 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: legal financial trouble, they're serious, and also the arrested and 184 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: gone to jail like their serious financial trouble and lawsuits. 185 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: You have what happened with Teresa that we know. You 186 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: have Jen Shaw, which is a serious, serious situation going 187 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: to prison. You have Erica Jane and the Tom situation. 188 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: You have Kim Richards. You have dor Eaton p Que 189 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: being sued about being sued for the swimsuit line, but 190 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: the claims were dropped. You have Apollo Nita, who is 191 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Atlanta, husband of Phedra went to prison. Sonya, 192 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: you had bankruptcy, the Karen and Ray Huber, you had 193 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: them owing back to federal taxes and millions of dollars. 194 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk that much. Nina isn't me. 195 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't play favorites. 196 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: But Nini has had tax leans and back rent issues. 197 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: Margaret jo sucks, Kelly Dodd and her husband had an issue, 198 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Peggy from Orange County, Jacqueline Marita, Robin Dixon, Chara. 199 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it goes. It's pages and pages of this choose, 200 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: you know. 201 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: And the thing is, I can't blame these women because 202 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure in this environment. 203 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure in this. 204 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Environment to keep up with the Joneses, and it's sad 205 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and it's a little toxic, and you just you know, 206 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: so when I talk about this environment and forget like 207 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: the other people on Bravo, forget James Kennedy and all 208 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: that type of stuff, I mean, it's just it's rampant. 209 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: So what is it that makes a person who is 210 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: flying too close to the sun financially. 211 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: Legally, et cetera, that is attracted to this medium? What 212 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: is it. It's crazy. 213 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Twenty five percent of all housewives have been in legal trouble. 214 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Think about that statistic. Twenty five percent of housewives have 215 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: been in legal trouble. The most common crime of this 216 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of house wise is fraud, okay, fraud. 217 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: The second most common crime is as salt So you're 218 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: on a show where they don't cast you if you 219 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: don't appear to be rich or are actually rich. 220 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: The difference doesn't matter. 221 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: You're on a show where ames bags are being shown 222 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: with a chiron saying how much they cost, and front 223 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: and center by the camera, and people are always arguing 224 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: about what people do or don't have, or fronting and 225 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: stunting clothes, fake reel, all that stuff. It's a flex 226 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: and it's a pressure. You have all these abcdfg's head 227 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: to toe logos. The competition is fierce. You can see 228 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: it so much. You see it so much on Salt Lake. 229 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: You see it's so much on Beverly Hills, you see 230 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: it's so much on Atlanta. It's Siri Miami. 231 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: Okay. 232 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: The second most common crime is assault. How many times 233 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: have you seen a wineglass throw and a weave ripped 234 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: something happened on Potomac when I watched it to rewatch it. 235 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: So you have fraud where everyone's fronting and stunting, and 236 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: assault where everybody is either verbally or physically abusing each 237 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: other on this show. So you can hate me, don't 238 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: hate the player, hate the game. I don't carry the way. 239 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you something smells and it's toxic because 240 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: it's a dumpster. Lisa Renna was courageous to say that 241 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: she was sort of in the mind control program, and 242 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: she went right back to it when she was talking 243 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: to Andy Cohen because she said something that she seemingly 244 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: meant and Andy called her on it, and she sort 245 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: of coward because back when you were on that show, 246 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you kind of just felt like you had to kiss 247 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: the ring, protect the realm. And Andy's word was the 248 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: word of God. And Lisa was courageous enough to stand 249 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: on her own two feet. She's got a modeling career. She's, 250 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, a woman of a certain age who's now 251 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: doing fashion and fashion week and modeling. She's had a 252 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: whole second chapter, third chapter, fourth chapter. She's she's you know, 253 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: has a different career, and she's somehow on a cellular 254 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: level realized that. 255 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: They don't own her anymore, and good for her. 256 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: So the girls, some girls were talking. 257 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: I saw my comments. 258 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't hear it, But on my comments 259 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: people were saying that some people were saying that I 260 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: was saying bad things about Teresa's financial situation. I didn't 261 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: say one bad thing about her or her financial situation. 262 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: I have sympathy and feel badly because love is blind, 263 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: and she loves this guy, and I don't know if 264 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: they were in it together and you know, flying too 265 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: close to the financial sun, or he was doing things 266 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: she didn't know about, or what happened. And it's not 267 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: easy to know everything about taxes. It's not easy to 268 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: be financially literate. 269 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: Believe me. 270 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: If you are not good at that sort of thing, 271 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: which I am not. I am conceptually but not literally, 272 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: you better have good people around you that you can trust, 273 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: and you better be always double checking them and making 274 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: sure and babysitting them and auditing them and letting them 275 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: know that you know, being on top of your game. 276 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: But the two of them got themselves into some issues, 277 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: and I strongly hope that her not having signed a 278 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: prenup doesn't come back to haunt her because in the beginning, 279 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: everybody's got a plan until you get punched in the face. Okay, 280 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: So that's what I said about that, and I am 281 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: completely entitled to talk about it as a person who 282 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: has a podcast, as a person who's been on the show, 283 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: as a person who left the show, and as a 284 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: person who's got facts and receipts and statistics that don't lie. 285 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: The numbers don't lie. In your normal life, you do 286 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: not know twenty five percent of people that have gotten 287 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: into financial trouble or been arrested. Like that's not even 288 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: including the arrest You just don't know people that this 289 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: high proportion of people that have been arrested for fraud 290 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: or filed for bankruptcy. So think about what we are 291 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: watching and what we are allowing our kids to watch, 292 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: and what society is allowing to be normalized.