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Speaker 1: Quarterback is a new sports series that features an unprecedented

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Speaker 1: look in the lives of three quarterbacks, including your Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins, Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, and Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Jefferson is a unique player, you know, one of

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Speaker 3: I am putting my money on Justin Jefferson moving forward,

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Speaker 3: given the kind of production he's had so far with

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Speaker 4: Hello. Jay, Oh sorry, I almost stopped you from drinking

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Speaker 3: No, it's all good. It's one of those where it's

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Speaker 1: So in case you like spill on yourself for like

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Speaker 3: Want to hear the slurp. So here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: He's mature enough, he's been in these positions before, he's

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm really excited about kJ Osbourne because while

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was talking to some people yesterday even about him,

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, threw the red meat in the room full of lions,

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Speaker 1: So he was like, okay, tail of the tape, height Watson, wait, Watson,

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Speaker 1: Not saying he's better or even that he will be better,

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Speaker 3: That's if you hear it goes like this, that's backpedal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, here's my problem. You don't have Aaron Rodgers anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: That's fun.

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Speaker 4: I saved this one for last.

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss is one of the most physically gifted wide

442
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Speaker 1: receivers of all time, and Christian Watson has a better

443
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Speaker 1: athletic profile.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. Yeah, here's the thing.

445
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Speaker 4: I didn't want to say anything else. I thought it

446
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Speaker 4: could just stand alone.

447
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Speaker 3: He's literally just lobbing the grenades over the fence at

448
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Speaker 3: all the Minnesota fans. He woke up, Come on, body,

449
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 3: let's do this.

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Speaker 4: He woke up and shows violence.

451
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Speaker 3: That is correct, And it's funny because like, if you

452
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Speaker 3: look at his Twitter profile and knew exactly what he's doing,

453
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Speaker 3: he's got a gift of Homer Simpson smoking a cigar saying, Yep,

454
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 3: everybody's stupid except for me. You know, he knows what

455
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Speaker 3: he's doing.

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Speaker 4: Oh that one's been up since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. But that's the whole thing. So again, I mean.

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Speaker 1: When it first came out, I know, when it first

459
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Speaker 1: came out, I looked at it and his thing says

460
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Speaker 1: packer insights and sarcasm, and I was like, maybe this

461
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Speaker 1: guy's being sarcastic.

462
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Speaker 3: Either way, he got his talkers, he got it.

463
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Speaker 1: And look we're we're feeding right into it. We're talking

464
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Speaker 1: about his tweets. Congratulations Bruce, you won the week.

465
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Speaker 3: That is correct. You know, the cool thing for me

466
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Speaker 3: is if you are comparing Christian Watson to not only

467
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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson, but Randy Moss, who must be doing something

468
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Speaker 3: right here picking wide receivers for this organization. If you

469
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Speaker 3: look at Justin Jefferson, he only needs five hundred and

470
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Speaker 3: seventy two yards to pass Randy Moss for the most

471
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Speaker 3: receiving yards before the age of twenty five. So both

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Speaker 3: of those guys have top tier during their eras within

473
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Speaker 3: the league. And the most exciting thing for me is

474
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Speaker 3: the fact that Justin's just getting going.

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Speaker 1: Just getting going, and we're gonna get going with our

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Speaker 1: guests in just a bit. We've got Brad Spielberger with

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, a salary cap analyst right now and

478
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Speaker 1: joining us on the Minnesota Vikings podcast for the first time.

479
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Speaker 1: You've seen them on Vikings content before, but this is

480
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Speaker 1: the first time on this medium. We've got Brad Spielberger

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Speaker 1: with PFF, a salary cap analyst.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Brad, how's it going.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. How you guys doing.

484
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Speaker 4: We're good at you know.

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Speaker 1: It's also important to note that Brad has a special

486
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Speaker 1: tied to Minnesota as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, can't forget I was a legal intern not

488
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Speaker 2: too long ago. I'm mi gCO building and the delicious

489
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Speaker 2: launch every day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those fun perks that we end

491
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Speaker 3: up having here. A bunch and a bunch of us

492
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Speaker 3: were even talking about it at breakfast this morning, just saying,

493
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Speaker 3: how you know, kind of fortune and spoiled we are

494
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Speaker 3: at this place sometimes, especially when it comes to all

495
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Speaker 3: the great stuff that they're doing up in the cafeterior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really really it's just very warriors, but it

498
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Speaker 4: is a luxury. It's a luxury. I have a personal connection.

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Speaker 4: I feel like to you, Brad because a obviously you

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Speaker 4: all also went to Tu Lane for law school, which

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Speaker 4: I appreciate as being a New Orleans person. But if

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Speaker 4: you ever look up Brad on Twitter, you should definitely

503
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Speaker 4: go give him a follow.

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Speaker 1: It's at PFF Underscore Brad. He's got a nice second

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Speaker 1: line photo as his cover photo in his Twitter space.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, my wife is from New Orleans as well,

507
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Speaker 2: probably a big reason why I went down to two

508
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Speaker 2: Lanes for grad school and we just had to have

509
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Speaker 2: a second line on our wedding and it's still a

510
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Speaker 2: highlight of everyone that came and it was not from

511
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Speaker 2: New Orleans. They still talk about it to this day,

512
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Speaker 2: and I don't blame them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for anyone that knows, it's basically the bride and

514
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Speaker 4: groom or the front line. Then there's a brass band.

515
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Speaker 1: Then there's all of your wedding guests with handkerchiefs and

516
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Speaker 1: they walk behind you as the city shuts down the streets.

517
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Speaker 4: You have cop escorts, you have to get permits. It's

518
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Speaker 4: like not just like a spontaneous thing.

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Speaker 2: Right right now. A lot of workers into it, but

520
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Speaker 2: it's forth in the end for sure.

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Speaker 3: Definitely was something that once I had heard that that

522
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Speaker 3: was a thing too, I realized how we booked this

523
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Speaker 3: guest for the show today.

524
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Speaker 4: So I didn't give Jay any of this in to preview.

525
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Speaker 4: And now he's like, oh it all makes sense.

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Speaker 2: That is correct, It all comes together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We just we got married a couple weeks ago, myself

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Speaker 1: Brad down New Orleans. We had a second line. It

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Speaker 1: was probably the highlight of the entire day.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome.

533
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Speaker 2: It was awesome gratulation as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Thanks all right, Well, now that we bought everyone with

536
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Speaker 1: our background histories, let's get into the good stuff. You know,

537
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Speaker 1: we were just talking about jj and and all of

538
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Speaker 1: the news that's been coming out with him surrounding his contract,

539
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Speaker 1: things like that. With a potential looming extension, there have

540
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Speaker 1: been several ports. You know, they're working on it, they're

541
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Speaker 1: not working on it. What are your thoughts on how

542
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Speaker 1: this is going to unfold?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is pretty unique to see a first

544
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Speaker 2: round pick that is not a quarterback get extended after

545
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Speaker 2: that third season. Obviously, he is eligible, as all players

546
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Speaker 2: are after their third year, but typically outside of those

547
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Speaker 2: those gunslingers you see, most players wait until after their

548
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Speaker 2: fourth season. I mean, even a player like a Nick Bosa.

549
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Speaker 2: You know, those players in at twenty nineteen draft class

550
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: are all getting extended right now, Jeffrey Simmons and Clinton

551
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Williams and so on and so forth. So obviously Jefferson

552
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Speaker 2: is a unique player, you know, one of the greatest

553
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Speaker 2: first three seasons for anyone in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But I would imagine they're going to be patient, They're

555
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Speaker 2: going to take it slow. I'm sure they've had some

556
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Speaker 2: preliminary talks, but his value probably couldn't get much higher,

557
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Speaker 2: So maybe they're just kind of taking their time because

558
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Speaker 2: they're not really afraid of. Look, he's going to become

559
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Speaker 2: the highest paid player at his position no matter what.

560
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Speaker 2: I think the number, the average per year number is

561
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Speaker 2: going to start with a three and the rest is

562
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Speaker 2: just kind of gravy after that.

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Speaker 3: I think the hard thing with that too is I

564
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Speaker 3: you know that I don't envy the people that are

565
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Speaker 3: in the front office that have to kind of make

566
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Speaker 3: those decisions on the timing. Like you said, no matter what,

567
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Speaker 3: he's probably going to be the top paid player at

568
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Speaker 3: his position. I think why you discussed this after three

569
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Speaker 3: seasons is to say, is the cost now versus a

570
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Speaker 3: year or even if you really flirt with disaster two

571
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Speaker 3: years from now with that fifth year option, do you

572
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Speaker 3: then potentially just have to keep playing more and more

573
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Speaker 3: and more per year versus getting him at a lower

574
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Speaker 3: rate if you do it sooner. So like, what are

575
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Speaker 3: the kind of pitfalls here for them to potentially wait

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Speaker 3: here and get into year four, year five, given what

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Speaker 3: Justin's done so far in the first couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is the risk. But I would say

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Speaker 2: two things. So first, you know, we're kind of if

580
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Speaker 2: you look around the landscape right now, I don't think

581
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Speaker 2: any receiver this the rest of this offseason is going

582
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Speaker 2: to dramatically change the market. I know Dallas has kind

583
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Speaker 2: of had similar, you know, rumors floating around about Ceedee

584
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Speaker 2: Lamb obviously in that same draft boss as Jefferson, but

585
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Speaker 2: I think he'll get a good deal, but it won't

586
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Speaker 2: really impact the market for Jefferson. And then you flash

587
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Speaker 2: forward to next offseason and I don't see anyone kind

588
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Speaker 2: of you know, I don't think Jamar Chase gets done

589
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. I think they'll also wait, and so on

590
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Speaker 2: and so forth. The second point that it may be

591
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Speaker 2: more importantly for the Viking specifically, they've been very, very good.

592
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Speaker 2: It is smart to get early extensions done. You often

593
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: get good value, but if you get too of value,

594
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Speaker 2: you might end up trading a wide receiver to get

595
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Speaker 2: the draft pick that becomes Justin Jefferson once defond Day's

596
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: contract is such a discount and such a bargain that

597
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: he becomes a set a couple of years later. Oh

598
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: and also the Neil Hunter, the guy who signed at

599
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Speaker 2: the same time for the same contract, has obviously been

600
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Speaker 2: doing that for a while as well, So there could

601
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Speaker 2: be a thought process of, yeah, we want to get

602
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Speaker 2: a good deal here, no question, we want both parties

603
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Speaker 2: to be happy, but rushing to maybe get a discount

604
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Speaker 2: in that could just ruffle some fetters in two or

605
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Speaker 2: three years. Let's just so the market settle itself and

606
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: then take care of this guy and hope he's happy

607
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Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: I guess you know, it's one of those things for me,

609
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Speaker 1: whereas like is it the chicken or the egg? Like

610
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Speaker 1: did the media sit there and say, Oh, they're going

611
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Speaker 1: to extend this guy or is that actually something you

612
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Speaker 1: think they're exploring, because I, like you said, I if they're.

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Speaker 4: Looking for that discount, maybe they brought it up.

614
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Speaker 1: But if JJ wants to kind of wait it out

615
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Speaker 1: and get a better deal, maybe it was a leak

616
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Speaker 1: on their part.

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Speaker 4: You know, does that make sense? Like what kind of

618
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Speaker 4: came first?

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Speaker 2: It does? It does? It's a good question. I would say.

620
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Speaker 2: I think that every team is willing to when they

621
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: realize a player is a guy they want to have

622
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: around long term, They're going to float offers and see

623
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Speaker 2: what they can do to start the conversation. Not speaking

624
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: to this negotiation specifically, but I think people will be

625
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: surprised how far apart the initial offers from the team

626
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: and the agent are and then they work towards the middle.

627
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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, I don't know about the specifics here,

628
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean it said, hey, we'll give Justin

629
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Speaker 2: Jefferson fifteen million dollars a year. Yeah, of course you're

630
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Speaker 2: going you're gonna send that email or make that phone call.

631
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Speaker 2: It's obviously meaningless in the grand scheme of things. But

632
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Speaker 2: then maybe the media finds out and so then whether

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Speaker 2: it's chicken or rag, I don't know. I think the

634
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: larger point is how serious are those conversations And I

635
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: would imagine the outset not very serious. They kind of

636
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: ramp up towards the deadline, and there is no deadline here.

637
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. I also look at it too. There's probably

638
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: another angle on that as well as just thinking about

639
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 3: how much of a discussion that's been around here with

640
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: the salary cap issues that the team was having, and

641
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: then you saw them, you know, shedding veterans and shedding

642
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: higher salaries, and people started speculating, oh, they're going to

643
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: be doing this because of trying to you know, get

644
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 3: something done with him or figuring out Daniel or whatever, like,

645
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Is that is that weird? Balancing act, and then all

646
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, the league will come out

647
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 3: and say, hey, the salary CAP's going up by x amount.

648
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: And I know that people try to forecast that or

649
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: future cast that here within the league, but those kind

650
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: of things I think are all And it's weird because

651
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: like everyone's trying to read the tea leaves. I think

652
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: for someone like you, not only you know, we're focusing

653
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: here basically on this kind of stuff with the vikings,

654
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Speaker 3: how do you handle that when it comes to the

655
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Speaker 3: league perspective of all the different players that are in

656
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Speaker 3: this kind of a boat with all the different teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a good point as well. Right, you

658
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: want to read into oh, why did they cut this guy,

659
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: why do they restructure his contract? So on and so forth,

660
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: and oftentimes, you know, I don't always like to be

661
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: a wet blanket in my position, but yeah, a lot

662
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: of time, Hey, they think this player probably just isn't

663
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: worth a cash who was set to make and they

664
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: want to clear some money. And it's a holistic thing.

665
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: There's not some specific reason why they're going by doing it. Now,

666
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: they may of course use some savings and give it

667
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: his Neil Hunter, give it to Justin Jefferson or whoever.

668
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: But I think we do sometimes get a little bit,

669
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: you know, we try to say, oh, well X happened,

670
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: therefore why it's happening, And realistically it could just be

671
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: kind of clearing the budget, clearing the books and trying

672
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: to get younger and I'll sher in a new future.

673
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: And I do think that is part of what's going

674
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: on in Minnesota.

675
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, most recently, we had a

676
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: longtime fan favorite and veteran Dalvin Cook, who is really

677
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: a huge part at least for the last few years

678
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: in the offense. You know, he got released and there

679
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: was a lot of discussion there too, about the fact

680
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: that he was due to make twenty plus million dollars

681
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: over the next two seasons, and so he gets caught

682
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: and it sounds like there's a ton of different stuff.

683
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: You see all this stuff now popping up about him

684
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: saying wanting to go play wherever Dehndre Hopkins goes and

685
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. But for a guy like Delvin

686
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: who was a fan favorite, especially at a position like

687
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: running back, you know, he's expecting to garner that twenty

688
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: plus million dollars over two years now he's on the

689
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: free agent market kind of finding out at least what's

690
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: being rumored that the market is probably maybe half that.

691
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: That's got to be a very weird position for guys

692
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: like Dalvin Cook and those guys to be in. When

693
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: they have a contract and assume they're going to be

694
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: making what they're getting, they get caught and then now,

695
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the reality of what the market

696
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: currently is is completely different than what they were expecting.

697
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the market is not normal. Right, So even in

698
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: the heart of free agency, you might have one team

699
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: offering you fifteen million a year, and if you don't

700
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: get that deal done, you might say, okay, well someone

701
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: else will have twelve. Now the next best offer might

702
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: be three million dollars, right, Like, it's not it doesn't

703
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: behave like a standard market. There's only thirty two buyers,

704
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: you know, for labor obviously in the picture and things.

705
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: You know, is he a scheme fit? Do we have

706
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: the money to spend on him? Do you want to

707
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: add this position? All these factors come in and all

708
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: of a sudden you only have three four teams that

709
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: are truly interested in your services. So once you throw

710
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: in the fact that we're in late June. I'm guessing

711
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: the offers have been fairly underwhelming for him so far.

712
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll get more guarantees and more assurances, and

713
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: maybe he'll get more guaranteed in total than he was

714
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: scheduled to make this year. But yeah, two year cash

715
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: flow of twenty plus million, I would be pretty surprised,

716
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: even though you know, it is kind of crazy the

717
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: market we're in. He's twenty seven years old, you know,

718
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: four straight thousand yard seasons. You know, even some of

719
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: the underlying metrics, his explosive rushes he was top ten

720
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: the last two years. Misstackles forced he was top ten

721
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: in the last two years. So it's just a very

722
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: very bleak market right now for running backs in particular.

723
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: But then also, yeah, that DeAndre Hopkins and so on

724
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: and so forth. Yeah, money drives up really quickly in

725
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: this league.

726
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: The weird thing about that too, though, is just even

727
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: seeing how that running back position has changed over like

728
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: the last decade you go through and you know, the

729
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: stat that's running around right now is that no running

730
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: back or top rusher within the Super Bowl made over

731
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: two and a half million dollars in a season, and

732
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: so just looking at how that position has even been devalued,

733
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: it's got to be really weird for the top tier

734
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: echelon guys like a Hammer, Derrick Henry or some of

735
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: these other guys to expect and garner that kind of

736
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: money given how important they are to their offense versus

737
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: how the rest of the league is going to kind

738
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: of a running back by committee type type situation, especially

739
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: salary cap wise.

740
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting the timing here. Actually put on an

741
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: article this morning kind of looking at the running back

742
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: market and it's very Viking specific because it looks at

743
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: you know, Adrian Peterson in twenty eleven signs a deal

744
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: for about fourteen and a quarter million per year, and

745
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: now a decade plus later, a dozen years later, you know,

746
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey at sixteen million is the highest paid player

747
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: at the position, and frankly, I don't think I think

748
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: he's going to hold that title for maybe two three

749
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: more years, if not longer. And then you look at

750
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: every other position and their markets have doubled. At quarterback,

751
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: it's basically tripled, you know, just the average annual value

752
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: of the highest paid player. So, yeah, teams are going

753
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: to committee, and they're also just trusting draft picks and

754
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: then kind of going back to the well with draft picks.

755
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: You know, like I said, Davin Cooks twenty seven and

756
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: he's like an elder statesman at the position. But it's

757
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see maybe if players in

758
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: high school or college this say, hey, I'm going to

759
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: play safety or try to be able to spot receiver

760
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: or you know, do different things. Because it's a tough

761
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: market right now.

762
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 3: Well, the hard thing with running back two is it

763
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: was always a position where it had a short, shorter

764
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: shelf life as well because of the amount of damage

765
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: that those guys took during their career at an early age.

766
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: And you know, Peterson was the last non QB to

767
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: win the MVP in the last sixteen seasons. Everybody else

768
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: has been quarterback at that point. And prior to that,

769
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: you saw between like two thousand and two thousand and six,

770
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: you had three running backs who had won the MVP

771
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: in there as Marshall Fawke, Shawn Alexander and Ladanian Tomlinson.

772
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: So like there used to being a huge importance between

773
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: those kind of guys. Chris Johnson, Jerome Bettis, whomever, those

774
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: they were the heartbeat of those offenses, and now it

775
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: has completely shifted to if you have a top flight

776
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: quarterback and a top flight wide receiver. That seems to

777
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: be the direction that the league is going at this point.

778
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: Yep, no, no, no doubt about it. And it's interesting

779
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: to still see some early draft picks, so I guess

780
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: there's still know in favor of having these guys from

781
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: the beginning of their career. But then once you get

782
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: to that second contract, Yeah, everybody else seems to do

783
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: all right, but but they really struggle. It's a different

784
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: leau than it was a decade ago, no question.

785
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: It's like an embarrassment of riches, right, Like You've got

786
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: these really great guys and they just keep getting younger,

787
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: and you just keep plugging them in the way that

788
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: you do that, you know you. I wanted to ask

789
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: you about this because I think it is really interesting

790
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: how much in the media is playing out that Dalvin

791
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: wants to play where DeAndre Hopkins goes and you mentioned,

792
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, money drives up really fast. That kind of

793
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: hit me a little bit because I've been having a

794
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: hard time understanding how a team who most teams right

795
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: now are pretty salary cap strapped. Like I wouldn't say

796
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: they're just like flowing in money because it's you know,

797
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: the end of the end of the period. They're paying

798
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: their draft picks, and then we're looking at these two

799
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: mega talents that want to play together. Is there really

800
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: a team out there that would be able to make

801
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: it work with the two of them?

802
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm just curious.

803
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, salary cast part of it. It's

804
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: also so you know, my understanding is the ownership will

805
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: give the front office, Hey, here's the cash budget for

806
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: the year. You figure out how to spend this wherever

807
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: you want, and then they spend a lot of it

808
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: in March in free agency, and then, like you said,

809
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: the draft class as well, and then you get to

810
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: the end of the road and you'd love to add

811
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: a guy, but you kind of already have these obligations

812
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: out there. So that is the only team. And it's

813
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: partly because they've already expressed interest. But the newly wan Patriots,

814
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: and I know it's very different than anything they've ever done.

815
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: This is not their m at all, but they obviously

816
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: had DeAndre Hopkins in for a visit. I do think

817
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: they're probably a bottom ten wide receiver unit. You bring

818
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: him in and helps a lot. You help a young

819
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: Mac Jones in his third season, maybe take that next

820
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: step and show some growth. And then I love Ramondre Stevenson,

821
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: very good young player. But they lose Damien Harrison free agency.

822
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: That don't really have anything beyond Ramandre Stevenson, So maybe them.

823
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: They're in the.

824
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: Bottom five right now in cash spending for twenty twenty

825
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: three and the rest of their division is all in

826
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: the top seven, so they're kind of, you know, in

827
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: a totally of ballpark, and maybe they to keep up,

828
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: might might add both of them, but it is hard

829
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 2: to find a team that could afford to bring both

830
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: of them in at a price that would make them

831
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 2: each happy.

832
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: Which is funny to me because I'm one that kind

833
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: of looks at the Patriots as the ones that are

834
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 3: the ones that shifted the market to doing the cheaper

835
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: running back, given that you know, Tom Brady was the

836
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: focal point of that offense. They always had their Sony

837
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: Michelle's and those kind of guys that were on those

838
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: rookie style contracts, and we're willing to do the churn

839
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: and burn of some of the people in that position.

840
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 3: I think for years the Patriots have because of the

841
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: luxury of being successful like they did, they were able

842
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 3: to get aging veterans and those guys to come in

843
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: and buy in at a cheaper rate because of the

844
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: lure of getting a ring. Now that they're having, you know,

845
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: kind of the growing pains with a new quarterback for

846
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: the last couple of seasons, haven't necessarily had the success

847
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: that they had with an all star historically and Tom Brady.

848
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 3: It would be interesting to see if they were to

849
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: get two guys like this who have been superstars at

850
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: their positions to come in later in their career and

851
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: just to see what that would do for that offense.

852
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, they definitely were kind of early on that trend.

853
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, even Sonny Michelle's kind of an outlier. I

854
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: think they had two top fifty picks at the position

855
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: in the last twenty something years and then also have

856
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: never paid a running back five million dollars a year

857
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: at any point. So so they really do, you know,

858
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: kind of view that position as replaceable and they turn

859
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: it over. Yeah, it would be interesting. I think of

860
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: course Tom Brady being there adds to the cachet, adds

861
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: to the you know, you can legitimately tell everyone we're

862
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: going to contend for a ring this year and you're

863
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: not lying in any way, shape or form. But I

864
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: think there is still a little bit of hey, this

865
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: is Bill Belichick, this is New England. Robert Kraft is

866
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: an owner that players seem to like, so there's still

867
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: some ability there. But yeah, I think it more so

868
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: would be you're paying closer to market rate, you're not

869
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: getting that Tom Brady discount, and we're just trying to

870
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: stay relevant and keep up in a very very tough

871
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: AFC's division.

872
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: I want to such things up a little bit and

873
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: talk about Danil Hunter. You know, the Vikings did not

874
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: see him at mandatory mini camp. He was whole thing

875
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: out obviously, frustration surrounding contracts. What's the latest on Daniel

876
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: Hunter and the contract going on around here.

877
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the report, the only report that I've seen

878
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: that that seemed credible, seemed legit, and I think is

879
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: very interesting is that they tried to that they, being

880
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings part office, tried to basically give him

881
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: kind of a one year band aid, right, so maybe

882
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: give him a raise. He's owed about five and a

883
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: half million dollars in cash this year, which he is

884
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: of course not going to play for. And the report

885
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: was instead of giving an extension, saying, hey, you know,

886
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll say we add ten million to

887
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: that where you come back and play for you know,

888
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: fifteen and a half million this year, which frankly I

889
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: probably still wouldn't do if i'm him. So it's an

890
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: interesting situation because we talked about kind of moving on

891
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: to some of the older players and shedding some salaries.

892
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: I think Hunter still has three four good years of

893
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: very good football in him. Obviously, the injuries are going

894
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: to scare you a little bit missignificant time, and whenever

895
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: you talk about next and things like that, it gets

896
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: a little bit scary. But yeah, I mean had seventy

897
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: plus quarterback pressures for US last year. Double digit sacks

898
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: is a phenomenal football player. I think it's pretty scheme diverse,

899
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: can kind of do whatever you ask of him to

900
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: a degree. I think he wants a three to four

901
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: year new deal, maybe even rip up this year because

902
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: obviously it's a lower cash outlay because they move money forward.

903
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: It's a complicated situation. I'm sure they would not I'm

904
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: sure they wouldn't love to trade him though. He's a

905
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 2: very good player obviously.

906
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you think about all of the faces

907
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: that have left this offseason due to money concerned salary

908
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: cap restraints, especially on the defensive side of things, there

909
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: are very few veterans who have you know, four or

910
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: five plus seasons of NFL experience under their belts. So,

911
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, losing a guy like that is huge, especially

912
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: when you think about all of the struggles with the

913
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: edge the edge game last year and the battling between

914
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Zadarius and him leaving. I mean, it's just kind of

915
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: a I feel like it's a very sensitive issue right now.

916
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 3: And we went from one of the old older teams

917
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 3: in the locker rooms now, especially on the defensive side

918
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: and with the flip over to Flores and everything else, like,

919
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: to one of the younger teams. And that is the

920
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: one everyone looked at the offense last year that was

921
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: humming in the defense that was struggling, just to feel like,

922
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: you know, well, what happens if we do take that

923
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: next jump and kind of get to the middle of

924
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: the pack defensively. He is a guy who has proven

925
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: in the past that he's an impact player. So it

926
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: is going to be really interesting to see what kind

927
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: of decisions, you know, coaching in front office may given

928
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: his current situation.

929
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Tata mentioning Zadarius is smart too, Right,

930
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: he's not there anymore, so you're potentially giving up but

931
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty quarterback pressures, which is a ton.

932
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Both guys were top ten, you know, per our charting

933
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: in pressure. So and Delvin Tomlins in a very good

934
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: player on the interior as well. It's like all of

935
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: a sudden, I know the defense obviously was not very

936
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: good last year. That's not you know, breaking news there

937
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: by any means. But you know, the front was solid,

938
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: and I think the secondary was just young and injured

939
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: and kind of leaky, and that was part of the issue.

940
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: But and then the last piece, Yeah, I mean Brian Flores.

941
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: You know, obviously it's good job, it's a good gig.

942
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: We all know it's a phenomenal building. But you bring

943
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: in this exciting, awesome young coach on defense, and then

944
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: you know, all this talent has gone tough for him

945
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: as well.

946
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 4: For sure.

947
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: I've seen you tweet a little about the NFC North recently,

948
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: and I think everyone's kind of up in the air

949
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: about where the team debat is. I mean, it's it's

950
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: funny that the Vikings have competition for that after winning

951
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: the division last year, but the Lions on their heels.

952
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: There's hype around the Bears and what are they going

953
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: to look like as far as the Packers now atot

954
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, how do you like, how are you looking

955
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: at the NFC North right now?

956
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, you know, the Lions are the favorites in

957
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Vegas and those things, and I do understand why, but

958
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: I think it's not a little bit too far. You

959
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: know that they are pretty heavy favorites, and then the

960
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: rest of the division you can get like four to one,

961
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: five to one odds and them to win, which probably

962
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: is good value on whichever team you like. So you know,

963
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 2: like I said, I get why Detroit is the favorite,

964
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: but of course it's the suspension now for Jamison Williams.

965
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: I think they did get better, particularly on defense, but

966
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: their defensive line still has question marks in my opinion.

967
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: You know, their secondary was very, very poor last year,

968
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: but they did add a bunch of talent in the

969
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: draft and free agency and then yeah, like Minnesota I

970
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: think should be the second team right there. Still. Obviously

971
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: they did lose a lot of these veterans we're talking about,

972
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: but you know, probably some decisions they would have made regardless,

973
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: you know, whether they were the playoff team last year

974
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: or maybe went around five hundred again, I think it

975
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: was the end of the road for a lot of

976
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: those guys, and I think the Flora is higher should

977
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: be an impactful and positive hire, no question about it.

978
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: So you know, Chicago, obviously I'm bias. I'm actually from Chicago,

979
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: a Bears fan. I think they're a year away. I'm

980
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: excited about what they've done, but I was think they're

981
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: gonna be a playoff contender until the following season and

982
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: then Green Bay. I mean, who knows what Jordan loves.

983
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: It's just also with them, some question marks around their roster,

984
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: a lot of youth, a lot of injuries are overcoming

985
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 2: right now. So not a great answer.

986
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: I just came.

987
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: They've been all over the place.

988
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: But it's kind of what it feels like right now, though,

989
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone is in our boat exactly.

990
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a yeah exactly.

991
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: One thing I'm really interested to see is, you know,

992
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: knowing that the Vikings made the shift at GM the

993
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: same time that the Bears did, and the Bears seemed

994
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: to do kind of a full complete tear down and

995
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: kind of rebuild here running with fields as their quarterback,

996
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: and the Vikings on the flip side, seemed to kind

997
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: of do this kind of almost for lack of a

998
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 3: better term, soft relaunch, and that they had a bunch

999
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: of veterans and they just kind of retooled some things

1000
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: and brought in some different players. I am very curious

1001
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: to see how the Bear's trajectory in the Vikings trajectory

1002
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: handles going forward here over the next couple of years,

1003
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: just given that they were kind of at a similar spot,

1004
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: but it just kind of veered down two different paths

1005
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 3: here that they could have gone through.

1006
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I think it's gonna be super fascinating

1007
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: to just gut it and start over versus, like you said,

1008
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: kind of just competitive rebuild or retool, whatever the word.

1009
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: You want to use.

1010
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is going to be interesting. I mean, it

1011
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: all is of course going to come down to quarterback,

1012
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: and you know, Minnesota knows there's a deadline. Obviously, Kirk

1013
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: Cousins is finally going into a true contract year, not

1014
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: really taggable, so you know, can leave if he wants to.

1015
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: But on the flip side, it feels doesn't take that

1016
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: step this year. If you know the presence of Dj

1017
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: Moore now, a better offensive line, all these things doesn't help.

1018
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: Then both rosters are probably looking for a new quarterback

1019
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: in the near future and that's starting over. So it

1020
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: really does come down to those guys, as most things

1021
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: in this league do. But yeah, it feels does take

1022
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: that step. He got a cheap young roster. As Minnesota

1023
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: continues to try to kind of turn things over, it'll

1024
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: be fascinating how those paths diverge.

1025
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: Well, Brad, we thank you so much for joining us today.

1026
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: Your insight is always amazing helpful, and you get to

1027
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: you read all the stuff that we don't have to

1028
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: so that you can break it down for us non

1029
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: contract talking people.

1030
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 4: That's for sure, that's.

1031
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: What I'm here for. Thank Yourev.

1032
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: You can follow Brad on Twitter at PFF Underscore Brad,

1033
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: and if you want to see the article he talked

1034
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: about a little while ago that dropped this morning, it's

1035
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: called Analyzing State of NFL Running Back Market and that

1036
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: is on PFF dot com. Thank you so much. Broad

1037
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

1038
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much.

1039
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: Again, A big.

1040
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: Thank you to Brad Spielberger for joining us on the

1041
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings podcast. I for being the off season and

1042
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: and off week. We certainly had plenty to talk.

1043
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: About this week, which is always a good thing.

1044
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: It's always fun. That's the thing, you know, everyone always

1045
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: kind of we talk about all the time. We still

1046
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: get the questions, what do you guys do in the

1047
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: off season? There is no off season at this point

1048
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: for us, and and so there's always a talker, there's

1049
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: always something going on, and you know, for us, I

1050
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: think part of it is the excitement of still what

1051
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 3: we feel is, you know, relevancy, and how given last year,

1052
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: how we hit thirteen wins in a season that I

1053
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 3: think people were a lot of people were surprised, given

1054
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 3: how the close all the games were and how everything

1055
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: fell our way. There's still a lot of speculation to say,

1056
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 3: all the changes that have happened, whether it was coaching

1057
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: or players at this point and then just kind of

1058
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: the promise of saying, what do we really have here?

1059
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: You know? And I think a guy like Brad does

1060
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: a lot of digging in order to try to figure

1061
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: out analytically you know what's going to be happening within

1062
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: the team, and it feels like he really kind of

1063
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: when he broke down the NFC North, feels like we

1064
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: are in a still healthy spot as an organization and

1065
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: kind of the future coming up for us here for

1066
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: the season. So it was great to talk to him.

1067
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: It was kind of it was fun to see it

1068
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: all kind of come full circle with him formerly being

1069
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: here and right working for PFF and he's doing a

1070
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: great job there. So thanks again Brad for being on

1071
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: the show.

1072
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's so great. We love having him on.

1073
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: And if you want to check out any other Vikings

1074
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: content while we're in this off season, of course, I

1075
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: hope you're following the Vikings app. Training Camp tickets just

1076
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: went live today. I know, crazy, it's already that time

1077
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: of year. That's something that if you.

1078
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: Follow the app you would know about.

1079
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: You could also got to Vikings dot com slash training

1080
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: Camp and look up how to get tickets then too.

1081
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: It's going to be an exciting time out here. Two

1082
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: joint practices, two night practices. Yeah, let's sign up, guys.

1083
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: This is going to be a fun training camp.

1084
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: I know. Conna was very impressed last year with the

1085
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: night practices, and he had made the comment, if I

1086
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: kN it was going to be like this, that have

1087
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: you know a bunch of these we Ever, we did exactly.

1088
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Speaker 4: So now we got to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, baby steps, we're implementing there every single night. But

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Speaker 3: it is going to be fun. It's always a fun time.

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Speaker 3: Training camp is something that a lot of us, especially

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Speaker 3: have been around for a long time, look forward to

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Speaker 3: and just the excitement of the fans and kind of

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Speaker 3: the excitement of the season that's about to pop. So

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Speaker 3: it's great. Get your tickets as soon as you can

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00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: and come join us here for all the excitement and

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Speaker 3: fun that we have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're still starving for some Vikings content,

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Speaker 1: especially some player content, a series that began last year,

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Speaker 1: Teeing Off, is back and better than ever. It is

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Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, Jordan Hicks, TJ. Hockinson, and Garrett Bradberry Offense

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Speaker 1: Versus the Defense.

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Speaker 4: Episode one is out right now.

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Speaker 1: You can watch that on the website or on YouTube,

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00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: and honestly, it was hilarious.

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Speaker 4: I watched the whole thing. I'm not even aver a

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Speaker 4: golf fan.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate golf, I understand it to a certain extent,

1109
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: but by no means am I watching other teams.

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Speaker 4: Content of golf. So I watched ours and I was

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Speaker 4: highly entertained.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great, you know, it was nice to all

1113
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Speaker 3: those guys have fun personalities too, and they're really enjoying it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you again to the TPC and the Three M

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00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: Open who allowed us to go play at TPC up

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00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: in Blaine. Those guys absolutely loved it. It's a really

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00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: fun and challenging course. It's the last hole is one

1118
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: of the most difficult holes in all of golf, period,

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Speaker 3: and so it was a lot of fun to go

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Speaker 3: out there and watch those guys, you know, play a shamble.

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Speaker 3: It was, you know, like you said, offense versus defense.

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Speaker 3: Harrison Smith is an incredible golfer, and so even at

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Speaker 3: the beginning, the offense is like, yeah, we're already getting

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Speaker 3: a couple of shots from him just because of how

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Speaker 3: good he is yea. And so yeah, the part one

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Speaker 3: was out for the front nine. Go check it out.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun and Part two will be

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Speaker 3: coming soon. And again thank you again to the three

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Speaker 3: M Open and TPC for letting us do that.

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Speaker 1: And a big shout out to Paige Jaeger for the idea,

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Speaker 1: for championing it and for editing it. You should if

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Speaker 1: you know anything about editing the timelines. Look, yes, it's

1133
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Speaker 1: a beast. There's like levels and when you finish it

1134
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: looks like a rainbow. It's a whole thing. So like,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Paige for being such a battie on it.

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Speaker 4: What's the best I could do? I didn't want to curse.

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Speaker 3: No, that was the thing too. It was great, you know,

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Speaker 3: it was a fun. We had really a lot of

1139
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: fun with it last year and to kind of grab

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Speaker 3: the mantle and take ownership of that thing again. It

1141
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: is a beast and you just know going into it

1142
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: that you know we have multiple things, all the different

1143
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Speaker 3: video camera angles, the audio on.

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Speaker 4: The audio, my goodness, I couldn't even imagine.

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Speaker 3: Between that and the graphics and everything. The first one

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00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 3: turned out great and so looking forward to seeing the

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Speaker 3: second one comes in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Jay, I think that's it for now. We'll

1149
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Speaker 1: be back next week with another episode. We'll be taking

1150
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: a deep dive into some of our internal staff and

1151
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: talking to them so that you guys can get a

1152
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: chance to know them. Now that the players are on

1153
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: a break. Coaching staff's on a break, we'll get to

1154
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Speaker 1: know everyone else who's still at work, just plugging along,

1155
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Speaker 1: getting ready for the season.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to the holiday coming up here soon, and

1157
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: so we're going to keep everyone plugged into what's going

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Speaker 3: on during the holiday and just looking forward to being

1159
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 3: able to talk to some of the great people at

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Speaker 3: work here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. All right, guys, thanks for listening. We'll

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Speaker 4: see you next week.

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