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Speaker 1: Revere revely dalks. Look at this now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's the thirty first of March, everyone,

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Speaker 2: and it's time for well just another podcast. Hi, it's

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. I am nearly one half of your host duo.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas. I join you from the

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Speaker 2: capital of the Status and Needles right here in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 2: joined by boy. They say pitbulls mister three oh five,

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Speaker 2: but not in my world. It's the real mister three

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Speaker 2: to oh five, my friend and yours senior to bigute,

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Speaker 2: It's it's Danny's the girl. What's up, Danny?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Luke?

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Speaker 3: Happy to be here. I appreciate the invite.

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Speaker 4: I am fired the heck up, as the BC would say.

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Speaker 4: But just for the record, no phoner and no inappropriate

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Speaker 4: amount of UFC straweights on my Instagram search.

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Speaker 3: But fired up Nonetheless.

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Speaker 2: You didn't say no strawways, you just said no inappropriate.

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Speaker 3: Appropriate that's the key word, Yes, sir, Hi, you.

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Speaker 2: Know so for folks who don't know about me, sure

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Speaker 2: most people do. But let's get the intro here. Danny Sigura,

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Speaker 2: of course is a reporter and well got many talents

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Speaker 2: over at MA Junkie slash USA today. What do you

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Speaker 2: do for all MMA Junkie for folks who don't know

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Speaker 2: who you are, daddy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all kinds of things.

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Speaker 4: I write, obviously a lot of articles, do a lot

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Speaker 4: of interviews, on site coverage, but mainly bilingual coverage.

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Speaker 3: I basically I take pride.

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Speaker 4: In sort of bringing the Hispanic scene of mixed martial

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Speaker 4: arts into.

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Speaker 3: The English coverage. So yeah, I do all kinds of things.

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Speaker 4: I'm a busy man over there, and yeah, we do

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Speaker 4: great content along with my colleagues. So super happy to

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Speaker 4: be part of the Junkie family. And you know, been

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Speaker 4: quite busy coming off San Antonio, and I'll be going

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Speaker 4: to UFC two eighty seven here in Miami in a

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Speaker 2: Look what's the buzz in Miami like?

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Speaker 1: Is?

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Speaker 2: Well? Here the thing right? I feel like that Miami

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Speaker 2: show is a little bit like that London show. And

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Speaker 2: here's what I mean by that. A lot of the

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Speaker 2: Brits were saying, Man, if you just look at the

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Speaker 2: prices like it's just insane. You're going to price out

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Speaker 2: the average MMA fan. I heard a lot of similar

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Speaker 2: complaints from the Miami Show. Are you hearing that as well?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they are stupid expensive the tickets. If you

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Speaker 4: go and look at sort of what's in the nose bleeds.

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Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about like five hundred dollars after

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Speaker 4: taxis that's in the nosebleeds, right, I've seen some crazy prices,

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Speaker 4: but they are selling. I think by the time the

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Speaker 3: So people are buying them.

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Speaker 4: So again I understand the complaints, but at the same time,

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Speaker 4: like you know, they are selling, right, So yeah, there's

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Speaker 4: definitely that. But I mean you got for him as

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Speaker 4: beyd mister three or five himself, the king of Miami

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Speaker 4: fighting in the comin event and that sweet sweet main

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Speaker 4: event between you know and Izzy. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: fantastic fight, and below that just all the prelims Adrianiannis

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just a stacked card. So if you're

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Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure, all right, Well, on today's show,

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Speaker 2: we'll not be talking too much about two eighty seven,

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Speaker 2: but we will get to Let's see, there's PFL this weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's on Saturday. There's bellatur which is tonight on Showtime.

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Speaker 2: it thirty day free trial. Fe'd like it, you can

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Speaker 2: keep it. If night, you're certainly welcome to Bounce. And

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Speaker 2: let's see, we've got the game Bred card and today

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Speaker 2: Danny and I are going to build our own game

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Speaker 2: Bred esque cards live on air. We're gonna a little

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Speaker 2: Plus some news related to Connor McGregor, some Sean O'Malley

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Speaker 2: if you are new. I think that is it for

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Speaker 2: our reads. We don't have a whole lot of them today.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, let me remind you. Let me remind you.

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Speaker 2: BC who is not with us today. He is busy.

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Speaker 2: He has two interviews out right now, both on the

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Speaker 2: BKFC side. So if you go to YouTube dot com

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Speaker 2: slash Morning Combat right now, BC sat down with Chad Mendes,

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Speaker 2: well as the returning Luke Rockhold. Yes, Luke Rockold is

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Speaker 2: which is different, different for sure, that's one way to

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Speaker 2: read on Mike Perry versus Luke Rockhold at well, I

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Speaker 4: I just have even a hard time imagining what that

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Speaker 4: Way more compact, probably more suited to one hundred and

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, Luke Rockhold's strengths are usually

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Speaker 2: Dude, he beat and folks forget do folks don't realize

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Speaker 2: That small ass ring. All right? With that in mind

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Speaker 2: topic number one with the weekend preview. We're not gonna

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Speaker 2: main event for Belltour two ninety three. Danny at minus

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Speaker 2: one thirty, Marcelo Galm takes on Daniel James at plus

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Speaker 2: one ten. Daniel James actually made his organizational debut in Belatour,

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Speaker 2: beating Tyroll Fortune and beating him rather cleanly, actually the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Golm can also is lighter, he moves

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Speaker 4: You know, he's forty one, but it just seems like

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Speaker 3: But for sure. I mean, if Gola keeps it on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys are ranked, which is why they're in

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Speaker 2: here's the thing for me, Danny Golam could stick and move.

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Speaker 2: It's not that I think that that's crazy or something.

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Speaker 2: And a guy like James is just as you can

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the speed advantage from Golm, but Tyrelle Fortune

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Speaker 2: don't know, man, I think getting the takedowns. I believe

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Speaker 2: the takedown is critical to winning personally. I'll just put

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, like look at that Tyro

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Speaker 4: Fortune fight where you know, Daniel James literally just does

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Speaker 4: the Derek Lewis and there's positions that he just stands

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably the worst case scenario.

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Speaker 4: I think it's best to be standing with him than

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Speaker 4: actually being on bottom with him, because you know that

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Speaker 4: dude cuts to make you know, two sixty five, so

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Speaker 4: he's probably close to three hundred pounds and he's got

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Speaker 4: you know, nasty ground on pounds. So yeah, you can

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Speaker 4: take them to the ground, and there's certainly an advantage

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Speaker 4: or something like that, dude, you're in trouble. You're in

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Speaker 4: big time trouble because you're not getting that guy off you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. The odds, do you agree

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Speaker 2: with the odds? Do you agree giving Gold again? And

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Speaker 2: the betting odds are not fully accurate reflections of who

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Speaker 2: the odds makers think are going to win or lose.

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Speaker 2: Oft times, the lines are designed to induce betting, but

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Speaker 2: in the general idea that Gold deserves a slight nod

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Speaker 2: over James, do you agree with that being fair? No?

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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go with James here, and I

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Speaker 4: think he should be again. I think this is a

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Speaker 3: And at least a notable one.

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Speaker 4: Good luck trying to take down you know a guy

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Speaker 4: that weighs three hundred pounds.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think Ryan Bader is gonna come back

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the other fight in the car.

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Speaker 2: To me, I don't want to just like zoom past

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Speaker 2: But kat Zin Gano enters this contest on the day

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Speaker 2: set up is a CAATs and Ghana Chris Cyborg fight, right,

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Speaker 2: because if you're gonna get anything out of Chris Cyborg,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, if you're gonna get anything out of Kats

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Speaker 2: go home for Cats and Ghano.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think this is also a position kind

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Speaker 4: Katsanghano and Chris Cyborg is way bigger than a fight

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Speaker 4: with Liam McCort. But Liam mccore is Irish. We know

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Speaker 4: They can easily put a main event there and host

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Speaker 3: We haven't really heard about her since.

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Speaker 4: So Kats and Gano's in this weird spot and she's

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, all right, where are you at,

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Speaker 4: Chris Cyborg? Right, Like, if kats and Ghana wins, that

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Speaker 3: It's going to be very interesting to see where this

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Speaker 2: All Right, So kats and Ghana's sitting at a minus

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Speaker 2: That seems to me about right, Danny when I look

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Speaker 2: going to be a ground battle, unless Cat doesn't want

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Speaker 2: it to be one. If you know, McCourt is a

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Speaker 2: black belt in judo, obviously, if you look at some

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Speaker 2: Uh you know she she's a submission specialist. She loves

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Speaker 2: end up pressed along the fence, jockeying there. Funnily in

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Speaker 2: the enough Katzghano's judo and wrestling coach is Justin Flores,

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Speaker 2: Ronda Rousey. So this is a she has put herself.

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Speaker 2: We already knew she could wrestle Katsanhano, so she has

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Speaker 2: I've been less than fully convinced it's translated to m

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Speaker 2: m A. Zinghano is pretty old. But I I think

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Speaker 2: and I think do heavier ground and pound where how

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Speaker 2: do you see this fight going?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think your analysis is pretty on point.

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Speaker 4: I would say something about the age of Zinghano. I know,

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Speaker 4: I don't have any scientific information to back this, but

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Speaker 4: but I'm less hesitant to sort of write off female

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Speaker 4: Like look at Holly Home forty one, and she's looking

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Speaker 4: look at Cats and Gano's performances, she looks mean as hell.

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Speaker 4: She you know, drives through all her takedowns, you know,

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Speaker 3: Still you can sort of feel the youth.

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Speaker 4: it'll be fairly competitive. But if kats and Ghano does

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Speaker 2: I just don't see how McCourt wins on the feet,

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Speaker 2: just based on what the tape shows us right there,

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Speaker 2: just doesn't I don't know what the case would be there.

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Speaker 2: That's not how she likes to win fights. She loves

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Speaker 2: to clinch, like you know, if kats and Ghano is

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Speaker 2: if she were to do that, I just don't know

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Speaker 4: To me.

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Speaker 2: It's she has to get that fight to the ground

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Speaker 4: I don't see her holding down kats Ghano though. I

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Speaker 4: just think Katsanhano's far more athletic and stronger. I think

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Speaker 4: standing McCourt can make it kind of close. Zengano is

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Speaker 4: more aggressive and has more pop for sure, and more explosive,

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, No, I just the thing for me is

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Speaker 2: that you're you're more confident than I am about Zangana's

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Speaker 2: of wafting around you just didn't know what exactly the

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Speaker 2: that's really good work. If you're not minding your p's

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Speaker 2: and qs, she'll get you. But Singano's fought and defeated

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Speaker 2: much better fighters than this. Now it's been a while

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Speaker 2: Pam Swortson's probably better actually, so so yeah, I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think if we see the.

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Speaker 4: Cats and Ghano that we're used to seeing, if she

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Speaker 4: doesn't make any crucial mistake, she should win this fight

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Speaker 4: right and again probably set her up against a fight

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Speaker 4: a title fight against Chris Cyborg if Chris Cyberg resigns

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Speaker 4: with Bellatur and that's gonna be crazy too. I know

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Speaker 4: I'm getting ahead of myself here, but like, she does

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Speaker 4: you know, we gotta kind of rethink the conversation. I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beating Chris Cyborg would be significant, like beating Amanda

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Speaker 2: is obviously a better name. Yeah, but it was early

430
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Speaker 2: before Amanda I think had figured things out for herself,

431
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 2: in all fairness, because the thing about Zigano, like she

432
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,760
Speaker 2: made her UFC debut and what she was like thirty

433
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,520
Speaker 2: three or something like, she was already a pretty senior

434
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 2: athlete by that time, and I think Amanda was still

435
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 2: trying to figure things out. And so, you know, I

436
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 2: thought that the wind doesn't count. It counts, it's real.

437
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 2: But you know, how would they go today? Obviously be

438
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 2: very different. Still, if she could rally at this stage

439
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 2: of her career to capture a weight class title and

440
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,639
Speaker 2: then you know, enough of an esteemed organization to matter,

441
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,439
Speaker 2: that honestly might be a bit like one of her

442
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 2: better wins, if not her best win be to be. Yeah,

443
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 2: Misha Tate Went's pretty good.

444
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,160
Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, Yeah, for sure.

445
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you just look at her resume, she's fought,

446
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 4: I mean some of the very best, right She's shared

447
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 4: the octagon with or the cage really with some of

448
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,800
Speaker 4: the best female fighters out there. So she's really fighting

449
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 4: for legacy here. I think if she does win a

450
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 4: belt or title and beats Chris Cyborg, like dude, she's

451
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 4: she's definitely taking an escalation in legacy for sure.

452
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,439
Speaker 2: Dani, I don't know if there's anything else in this

453
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 2: card that stands out to you. On Wednesday, I told

454
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Speaker 2: the folks about Joey Davis. Joey David, it sits as

455
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: the biggest favorite on this card. Ready for this one.

456
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 2: You almost don't see this in MMA minus eighteen hundred

457
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: against a plus one thousand Jeff Creighton. Lucas Brennan, the

458
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: son of Chris Brennan, is a minus eleven fifty favorite,

459
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: so he's a big one as well. But Dani, I

460
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 2: don't know if you know a whole lot about you

461
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: know a lot about Joey Davis.

462
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

463
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 4: He's a stud wrestler, right, Like, he's one of these

464
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,239
Speaker 4: wrestlers that the beltrice picked up.

465
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, he's been off for two and

466
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 2: a half years for reasons I'm not even sure of.

467
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 2: He wasn't injured or anything. He's still twenty nine years

468
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: of age. He's the only two division he's the only

469
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 2: Division two wrestler to win not merely four national titles,

470
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Speaker 2: so he won it all four years. He never lost

471
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 2: a match. He won one hundred and thirty three and

472
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 2: zero and he's undefeated in MMA. And when you watch

473
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: the tape on him, dude, his ground and pound is

474
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: absolutely nasty. His takedowns, as you can imagine, are just

475
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 2: lights out. And he has been all for reasons I

476
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 2: don't know. But he's still in his twenties. He's back now,

477
00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 2: super super exciting prospect on this card. Excited to see

478
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,400
Speaker 2: him there. Also on the main card, I don't pick

479
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: a lot of taken on Rat Garbage, Mandel Nalo and

480
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: then Juliu Willison, Rustom Habilaw, Rustlem Habilov is back. How

481
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: about that. That's a fun one too.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

483
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Speaker 4: Also Sullivan Cally, you know about him? Have you seen

484
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 4: some of his fights five and Big bab pound. Yeah,

485
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 4: And he trains with Ryan bato Or at Power and

486
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 4: Man Fitness in Arizona. That's a guy that could be

487
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 4: something big soon enough in the near future in the

488
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 4: light heavyweight division, So keep an eye on him.

489
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: Fight. Yeah, taking on Luke trainer. He is favorite Sullivan

490
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: Cowley minus two fifteen, but it's still pretty competitive. That

491
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: should be a fun one as well. All Right, Danny,

492
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 2: let's move if we can to what else is going

493
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Speaker 2: on this weekend? This will be tomorrow on ESPN or

494
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: ESPN plus whatever. I'll get a clarification here just for

495
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: a second. Uh but twenty twenty threes PFL one, So Danny,

496
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Speaker 2: I'm just not going to mince words. Brendan Locknan or

497
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: Brendan Locknane I've heard pronounced both ways. Love the guy.

498
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 3: You can call him PFL Champ, PFL.

499
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: Cham, PFL Champ, Brendan Locknan. Amazing story, you know, winning

500
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: the way he did just incredible. Had to restart his

501
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 2: career kind of after the Dana White debacle. Gets it done.

502
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: He's a He's a legit fighter with a legit skill set.

503
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: I have nothing bad to say about him, nor do

504
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: I have anything bad to say about his opponent, Marlon

505
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 2: mi Reish. But Jesus Christ, I don't know why this

506
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,479
Speaker 2: fight is happening one hundred and forty five pounds, So

507
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: Marlon is gonna move up a weight class. Locknan is

508
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: not necessarily like a super dominant one punch guy. Okay,

509
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: fair enough, but Marlon is on an epic losing streak,

510
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: in fact, losing by stoppage his last fight against Himan Mirisch,

511
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 2: which was his PFL debut. Danny set this one up

512
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: for us. What are your feelings about the fight itself

513
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: and is there any chance that Maurish wins.

514
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 4: I think there is, but I agree with you, I'm

515
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 4: not too thrilled with this matchup. I think Brandon Logan

516
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: should win this fight quite convincingly. I mean he's a solid,

517
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 4: solid fighter, super well rounded. I mean, if you just

518
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 4: look at sort of his report card skill wise, it's

519
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: just like BB plus is everywhere. He's not really stellar

520
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: any specific area, but can do everything very very well.

521
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 4: And Marlon morajs he's a weird one. Because I don't

522
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: know how you feel about this. I saw his last

523
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Speaker 4: fight against shim And Marias, which was actually his debut

524
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 4: for PFLs a non season about back in November at featherweight,

525
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: and he looked damn good. His leg kicks were on point,

526
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 4: he looked explosive, his power was there, mixed it up

527
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: as well, and scored a takedown in both the first

528
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 4: and second round, and then he was basically on en

529
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: route to winning thirty twenty seven quite comfortably, and then

530
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 4: just gets blasted by a right hand and gets finished.

531
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Speaker 4: And it's it's kind of hard to say, like, all

532
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: this guy should retire and this and that, and I

533
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 4: agree there is some concern about his losing streak, and

534
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 4: he's been getting finished in all these five fights and

535
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: all these five losses. But at the same time, he

536
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: looks good until he gets finished. It's not like, you know,

537
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: he's out of his athletic ability and his powers not there,

538
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 4: and he's shot and he's not swinging. He fights a

539
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 4: damn good fight onto he gets clipped, So I am

540
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 4: I'm not ready to say he's completely done.

541
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: In his last fight.

542
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: I did see some attempting reinvention again to takedown.

543
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: He had a lot of top control, good ground up pound.

544
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 4: We've seen guys like alistair overing Glord to share our

545
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 4: work around having sort of their chin be diminished over

546
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 4: the years, obviously in the heavier weight classes, which makes

547
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: it a little bit easier to do than at featherweight.

548
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: But also Brendan Logan, as you said, doesn't have that

549
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 4: much power. So again I'm going with Brendan here, but

550
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: I'm not ready to sort of dismiss completely Marlon Morijs here.

551
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's I guess that's fair. I don't know.

552
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: I just don't know, man, I It's yeah, they didn't

553
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: give him, you know, a Melvin Manhoff type, you know,

554
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: type of I didn't realize that was a different way

555
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: class obviously, but I'm just saying that kind of like

556
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: they didn't give him John Lineker or some kind of

557
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: bruising puncher. And so for that reason, I don't have

558
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: quite the trepidation. I guess My point is, you know,

559
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: do I really think he can a beat the champion? No?

560
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: And more to that point, do I think he can

561
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: really win a season, or like win enough to even

562
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: get to the finals of a season. I just don't.

563
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 2: I think when there's that much fragility introduced, I mean

564
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: there's just a certain like we don't talk about this enough,

565
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: like you know, like Cheeto vera man we call him

566
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: on't if you know, on this show, we call him

567
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: remember Butterbean used to be called the king of the

568
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 2: four rounders. We called Chicito the king of the five rounders.

569
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: On here, man, because you obviously you know Corey Sanhagen fight.

570
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: Notwithstanding you put it that guy in a five round fight,

571
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: he just gets stronger and stronger and stronger, and then

572
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: it comes on. But dude, Chitto also has insane durability.

573
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: And I've seen a lot of really talented guys on

574
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: the come up who had like UFC ambitions, but just

575
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: couldn't tolerate punishment for one reason or another. But they

576
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: were otherwise very skilled technicians. People take it for great

577
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: and how durable you have to be to get somewhere.

578
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,239
Speaker 2: But once that durability is diminished, man, you know you're

579
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: right about those other guys reinventing themselves. And but as

580
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: you indicated, like in the higher weight classes, it's just

581
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: significantly easier. We saw the stat in title fights so

582
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 2: for I've watched it a few times, but from one

583
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: five to one seventy, it's like two and twenty eight.

584
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: If anyone's over thirty five, their record in title fights, right,

585
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: same consideration thirty five and over from one eighty five

586
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: on up. It's it's almost even. It's like thirty two

587
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: and thirty it's something like right at it. So, like

588
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: the amount of ability for older guys to succeed in

589
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: MMA goes up dramatically relative to the to the smaller guys.

590
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: So I take your point that like this is not,

591
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: you know, some bruising threat. Fair enough, I just don't

592
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: know where we're headed with this, and I feel like

593
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: even if he does okay enough, he's gonna set himself

594
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: up for another kind of fight where someone's gonna send

595
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: him to the land of winding ghosts. That's all.

596
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think actually this is one of the better

597
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: matchups for him because of the power, because he can

598
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 4: skill wise, he's there, he competes, right, Yes, it's just

599
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 4: the power if he's faced against somebody that can crack.

600
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 4: You know, in the lower weight classes, there's so many

601
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 4: punches thrown in comparison to the higher weight classes that

602
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 4: at some point, even if you have great defense, you're

603
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 4: gonna have to take a shot. You're gonna have to

604
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: rely on your chin a little bit, and that's where

605
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: things go south for Miraje.

606
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I.

607
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: Agree with you, but I would say that the odds

608
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: should be a little closer than the are and I

609
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: do think that skill wise, Miraje is right there with

610
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: Brendan and can very well compete with him. Wouldn't be

611
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: shocked if it's actually a close fight in a ghosted decision.

612
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: Interesting all right, Fair enough, with that in mind, let's

613
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: go to the comin now. This one, to me is

614
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: significantly more interesting, and the odds makers agree, Danny. Thiago

615
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: Santos making his PFL debut sitting at plus one sixty,

616
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: so he is the underdog, but he will be facing

617
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: the previous season's weight class champion, who, by the way,

618
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: gave former UFC middleweight champion Israel Adasonia the top Well,

619
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I'd say the toughest fight, but his UFC debut was

620
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: against Rob Wilkinson. So Rob Wilkinson sitting at minus one

621
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: ninety two. Jiago Santos' is plus one ninety Danny, I

622
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: actually feel like these odds are fair. Wilkinson probably should

623
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: be favored. I do think he'll likely win, but he

624
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: keeps his hands a little low, not a ton of

625
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: head movement. He loves to drive into opponents at Thiago

626
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: Santos thirty nine years of age, I think it's fair

627
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: to say definitely not what he once was. But if

628
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: you're not careful with a dude like that, bad shit

629
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: can happen. This one, to me is very very close.

630
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's very competitive.

631
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 4: I wonder what kind of table Santo's were you gonna see,

632
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: because he's also a guy that's kind of working around

633
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: sort of a diminished speed, diminished reflexes, diminish chin as

634
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: we saw in his last fight. I think he attempted

635
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: how many takedowns. I think it was around twenty or

636
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: something like that, something he had never really done previously.

637
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: And if you just look at, for example, that John

638
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 4: Jones fight or other fights when he was in his prime,

639
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 4: is just a completely different fighter. Now he's trying to

640
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: sort of use the glower to share a blueprint and

641
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: now rely on his jiu jitsu and wrestling. But Rob

642
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: Wilkinson is good man and his only two losses as

643
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 4: you mentioned Tadasignya and I gotta give love to Si

644
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: that a lot of people don't know him, but in

645
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: like the twenty fourteens, fifteens, that was a bad dude.

646
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: That was a bad dude.

647
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: I know he had a lot of losses too, but

648
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: at some point he was he was picking up wins

649
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: and looking pretty good in the UFC. So, yeah, this

650
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: was a very close fight. I go back and forth

651
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: on who I'm gonna pick. I can see the experience

652
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 4: in the wrestling and the size kind of playing a

653
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 4: factor here and seeing Tiago Santos get a win here.

654
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: But you know, Rob can can crack. He also has

655
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: a mean mustache and that helps too, So who knows. Man,

656
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: this is a very close fight. I'm excited for this one.

657
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's interesting. Wilkinson is a big dude.

658
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: Man.

659
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: He's one of these He is just like Santo's, one

660
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: of these guys that you look at and you're like,

661
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: how did this fucking guy ever make one eighty five?

662
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, he's tall. He's six ' three. By the way,

663
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna have a four inch reach advance on Thiago

664
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: Santo's We'll have eightyance reach, which I think that would

665
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: be either the longest or at least the longest sense

666
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: not over John Jones, but I think it's certainly the

667
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: longest since John Jones, and it might be the longest

668
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: other than in all together John Jones, in terms of

669
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: having an opponent in Wilkinson with that reach of edge

670
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: in that way. I think Santos is about seventy six

671
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: something like that, so that'll be interesting to see. But dude,

672
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Wilkinson is just enormous for the weight class. I think

673
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: the thing that I'm looking to see here is I

674
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: do think he's gonna pressure Thiago Santo's I don't think

675
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: you'd let that guy pressure you, right, So he's gonna

676
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: push into him, and Santos is kind of relented on that.

677
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: He's allowed more pressure than I think he once did.

678
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: Or maybe he faces more than he once did. Maybe

679
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: he's a better way to put it. But dude, Wilkinson

680
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: can get the takedown if he's got good body locked takedowns.

681
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: He works well on top, he's got good ground and pound,

682
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: he can move. To what extent do you think this

683
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: fight plays out on the feet, And to what extent

684
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: do you think this fight goes to the ground.

685
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: That's a great question.

686
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: I think, let me ask this let me let me

687
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: let me ask it this way. Sorry, assuming it goes

688
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: at least two full rounds.

689
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: I think, just because of the nature of the recent

690
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: fights that we've seen from Tago Santos, I think there's

691
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of clinching. I think there's gonna

692
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: be a lot of grappling, a lot of sort of

693
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: shoving each.

694
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: Other against the cage.

695
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: I don't think Dago Santos wants to take a chance

696
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: and get cracked, you know.

697
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna want to grapple a lot.

698
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: And and yeah, I think it's gonna be a grapple

699
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: heavy heavy fight.

700
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely clinch heavy, certainly agree with that. Don't

701
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: know how it's gonna go beyond that. That's other part too.

702
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: It's like Tago Santo's he can be devastating in the

703
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: clinch as well, right, he can be an absolute nightmare

704
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: in that space. So to me, it's a real question

705
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: not so much of what kind of Rob Wilkinson are

706
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: we going to get. I think we have a decent

707
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: idea about what that's gonna look like. To me, this

708
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: is a big referendum on Thiago Santo's. Not to say

709
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: if he loses here it's the end of the world,

710
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: because you know, obviously it's a long season and things

711
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: can happen, but that will be that will be very

712
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: very tell. And by the way, if he gets a win.

713
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of that, like, I'm I'm going back to the

714
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: main event, Danny. You know, do I really think that

715
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: Marlon could put together like a season long winning effort.

716
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm skeptical, right, skeptical. Jago Santos is a definite. That's

717
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: a maybe for me. That's I'm he's he can do

718
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: something here.

719
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just seems like, for example, I

720
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: look at Rob his standing in the sport and just

721
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: physically looks a lot more sturdy. Remember, like Dad was,

722
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: Santos has had some pretty bad injuries Against John Jones,

723
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: he like completely blew out both knees.

724
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: Right, He's thirty nine years old. This season's grueling. Man.

725
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: The season almost comes down to, yeah, you gotta be

726
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: a good fighter, but you also got to be a

727
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: fit fighter.

728
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: You also got to be on form. Look at Pettis,

729
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: great fighter, but like.

730
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: He's also had issues cutting the way and also injuries.

731
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: I think dadd Santos could win this one, but I

732
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 4: don't like his chances in him looking good down the

733
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: line in four fights later this year.

734
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: Fair enough, anything else on this card stand out to you.

735
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: I just want to highlight one fight for me. The

736
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: MOVI lead Haabu Layah fight against Royo Ji Kudo Movelt

737
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Hablaya wins over Chris Wade wins over Lance Palmer wins

738
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: over all kinds of guys. You watch him on tape.

739
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: What can't he do? He can strike, pressure, wrestle, ground, pound,

740
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: take the back. That dude is legit good. Are you

741
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: excited about that one or anything else on this card?

742
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited about that one. Also want to highlight

743
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: the Chris Wade Bubba Jenkins fight. It's a rematch, there's

744
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: bad blood between the two, so that could be interesting. Also,

745
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 4: in the very first fight of the prelims, Impakasangani is

746
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 4: making his PFL debut after winning in the Challenger Series,

747
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: and he's mostly known for getting you know, destroyed by Buckley,

748
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: which is fair. I guess, you know, I was a

749
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 4: pretty viral knockout. But at the same time, you know,

750
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: this guy can't crack. He did have a pretty decent

751
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 4: UFC career. He's just twenty nine, so I think he

752
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 4: does have some room to, you know, go on and

753
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: achieve bigger things than what he already has.

754
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: So I'm also looking forward to his debut. I would

755
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: highlight those.

756
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Two you love redemption stories in MMA. I do love them,

757
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: So be on the lookout for that. That'll be Saturday.

758
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Oh by the way, when does that start and where's

759
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: it airing? So I will tell you that'll be on

760
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: ESPN prelims on ESPN Plus. I think everything kicks off

761
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: around six pm in the East. Danny. Let's talk about

762
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: this one here also over the weekend. How about game

763
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 2: Bred Boxing for this will be Saturday in Milwaukee. Let's

764
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 2: take a step back here because BC and I discussed

765
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: this on Wednesday. Your level of excitement, intrigue, thoughts, your

766
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: feelings about what Jorge Mazwitola is trying to do with

767
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: not just really this card, but I think this idea.

768
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: I would say, I'm curious. Am I super excited? No?

769
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: But is it on my radar? One hundred percent? I

770
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: just want to see what it looks like, right.

771
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like this is what the Soufa

772
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 4: boxing would have looked like, probably a little bit more boxing.

773
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: I think this is two MMA.

774
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 4: I would have liked to see some boxing names in there,

775
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: but it is in right, Like I think something that

776
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: boxing has failed terribly at outside of like the elite level,

777
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: is telling stories like if you get a mid tier

778
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: UFC fighter compared to like a mid tier boxing fighter,

779
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: the UFC fighter is infinitely more famous and more popular.

780
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: It is just the UFC is a social machine.

781
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: They know how to promote a fight, They know how

782
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: to get fighters out there to the masses.

783
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: Boxing, you know, not not so much.

784
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 4: And I think what's causing some interest here is it's

785
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: still combat sports, obviously, and I think there's a good

786
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 4: portion of the fans that, yeah, they want to see

787
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 4: elite fighting, which here I don't think in some cases

788
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 4: you're not getting just because you know, these guys are

789
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: not boxers. But people also want to want storytelling, want stories,

790
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: and these guys have storied careers, these guys are very

791
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: well known. All of these guys so name value, this

792
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 4: is a pretty good card. So I'm just curious to see,

793
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: for example, like how Jose Aldo keeps looking in his

794
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: boxing career. You know, he had fought what was it

795
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: in December? I think it was or I saw some highlights.

796
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: He looked decent, he looked good, and I did I

797
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: did not see it.

798
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: Apparently he's gonna or there's talks of him fighting Floyd

799
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 4: Mayweather after this, so I don't know how much interest

800
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: I have in that, but if he looks good for.

801
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: Let me take j Floyd Mayweather versus Jose Alder. I

802
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: can't say I hate it.

803
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: I can't say I hate I'd watch him, I'll be honest.

804
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: I watched Floyd Mayweather versus Aaron Chandler's is it? He

805
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: fought it?

806
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: Chalmers? I think it was Chalmers?

807
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, yeah, my bad?

808
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: Or who do you fight? He fought another YouTuber wasn't

809
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 4: DEI or say his name somebody. I didn't watch those

810
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: because they didn't They didn't interest me. Now if I

811
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: have to work work them or whatever. I don't think

812
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 4: we had a ton of coverage on that on an

813
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: M Junkie. But if I did, I would obviously watch it.

814
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: But out of interest itself, I didn't watch him. I

815
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 4: would go out of my way to watch joselo versus

816
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 4: Floyd Maywe So I don't know. This card is interesting,

817
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 4: this whole experiment with the fighters going to boxing, and

818
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: I do find it interesting.

819
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: I gotta say I will say this of all the

820
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: Floyd's like previous fights, because we talked about him a

821
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: little bit on this show. I mean, I don't know

822
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: if you saw it. Did you see the So I

823
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: think if I might be mistaken on this, but I

824
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 2: believe this is right. I believe that Floyd fought Aaron

825
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: Chalmers or whatever the fuck you want to call that. Yeah, yeah,

826
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: in the O two like a week or yes. Yeah.

827
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: And also he was on the Jeordi Shore, which was

828
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: like their Jersey shore. U can't yeah, yeah, uh? And

829
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: do you I don't know if you saw this. Did

830
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: you see how like empty the arena was? No, dude,

831
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 2: they if they sold I'm not doing a bit. If

832
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: they sold one thousand tickets, then they papered five hundred.

833
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: I mean there there was no one there. They did.

834
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: They did a shot of like when the card had started,

835
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: the main card, and someone walked around the main uh

836
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, like if you go down to the seats

837
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: and then on any stadium's main terminal you go and

838
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: get your beer, you get your hot dogs or whatever

839
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: the concourse. So someone walked around the concourse while the

840
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: main card was going on and it was a ghost town.

841
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: Like do you ever leave a fight at like two

842
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: or three in the morning, right because you're busy there? Yeah,

843
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: it's just a security there, dude. It was just the

844
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: security there. So it's not just us that are like, yeah, Floyd,

845
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: we're not doing this bit with you anymore. But Jose,

846
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 2: don't hate it, don't hate it, don't hate it. All right,

847
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: let's talk about this card Anthony Petz versus Roy Jones Junior.

848
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: Roy is closer to sixty than he is forty, which

849
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: is just I mean, get the fuck out of here

850
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: with that taking on Anthony Pettis, Danny, I don't even

851
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: know how to break down the x's and o's of this.

852
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: It's eight rounds. You want to take a stab at it? Like,

853
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: what do you want to say?

854
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I have no idea what the hell to expect?

855
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: And Anthony Pettis is like big as hell. He's he's

856
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: saying he's like two hundred pounds now or something like that. Yeah,

857
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: this really is a weird one. Yeah, he's like apparently

858
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: quite heavy these days now that he's fighting Roy Joins.

859
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: I would have loved, and I would have loved, but

860
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: I think it would have been appropriate and it would

861
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: have been nice to see both these guys get their wish.

862
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: Roy Jones Junior versus Anderson Silva. That that would have been.

863
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 2: Good, right, yep, back when it matter.

864
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: Anthony Pettis came out of left field.

865
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: Man, I have no idea and obviously Showtime kick like,

866
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: we really only know him from the kicks, so I

867
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 4: don't know what the hell he's gonna look like in boxing. Also,

868
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, Roy Jones, closer to sixty, uh, but

869
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 4: that dude's probably gonna still have hands all the way

870
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: to like seventy seventy five. I just think, you know,

871
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: he's just that's.

872
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: Just who he is. I don't know, weird to fight,

873
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: but I think, yeah, Roy Jones should.

874
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: Be a favorite, right, I guess, I yeah, I guess. Yeah,

875
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: I guess. I guess. I guess that's right. I'm not

876
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: I really don't know, I really, I guess that's part

877
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: of like what Jorge Mazadol is trying to do here.

878
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: And I know you speak to him regularly or you

879
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: certainly have interviews with him. Have you talked to him

880
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: about this card at all? Yeah? Yeah, I so give me,

881
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: give me his pitch. How was he imagining this?

882
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: Well, he's just trying to put on like big fights.

883
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 4: I think he thinks there's a market for these type

884
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: of fights where boxers fight MM fighters, or just MM

885
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: fighters versus MME fighters in boxing. Again, I feel like

886
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: people there's there's different kinds of fans. Right, you're probably

887
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: on the end that you don't care who's fighting, or

888
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: maybe to some degree you do, but you're really just

889
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: there to watch.

890
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: The highest technique possible, right.

891
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: And there's some fighters like one hundred percent casuals that

892
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: is like, oh, Conor McGregor's fighting, Floyd is fighting.

893
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: They don't care who it is.

894
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: They don't care about technique, They just care for the

895
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: name value and to be sort of present there for

896
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: the story.

897
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: And then there's a middle ground here.

898
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: I think you know, watching, for example, V Tour throw

899
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: Hands with Jack Risos, if you're a vtor fan.

900
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: You probably want to watch that, right.

901
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 4: So I think he's trying to figure out how big

902
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: the market is because there's certainly interest around that. We've

903
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: seen some similar fights in other cards where EME fighters

904
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: do the crossover thing, and there has been some bus

905
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: in several occasions. You just got to do it right, like,

906
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: it's got to be the right type of matchup. And

907
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 4: I think we're going to hit on that when we

908
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 4: do our our game bread MANK card or whatever. When

909
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: we do our our our MMA versus boxing, our m

910
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: versus MMA in boxing picks. But yeah, I think this

911
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 4: is an interesting test to see what that market looks like.

912
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: But they're certainly a market. I think something we.

913
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: Talked about before the show, which is also we should

914
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: have mentioned at the top, which was you know, am

915
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: I I am? Definitely it's definitely weird in a good way.

916
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: It's not weird and a bad way. Although the main

917
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 2: event could get weird in a bad way. I think

918
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: that's certainly on the table. But okay, it's not like

919
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: he's Roy's fighting you know somebody who's like a really

920
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: dangerous boxer. But the thing that I think is going

921
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: to hurt them a little bit, Danny, is that while

922
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: you can buy it on you can get it on

923
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: five pass, but even if you get it on fight Pass,

924
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: you got to pay fifty bucks forty nine ninety nine,

925
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: and then next week is UFC two eighty seven. The

926
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: one thing I think Jorges running into, which any promoter

927
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: would is hey, I need more money to pay for

928
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: these kinds of names, but asking for more money from

929
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: the fans in order to get the payroll in a

930
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: sort of a saturated pay per view world, That to me,

931
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: more than anything, might end up being the issue here

932
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: that any promoter trying this might run into.

933
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're on point with that.

934
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: I don't think the issue is here getting fans to

935
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: watch it, because I think fans are down to watch it,

936
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: like fans are genuinely interested about these fights, and they're

937
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: known names, like you got a bunch of legends here, right,

938
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: I don't. But the question is our fans willing to

939
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: pay for it? Because if you throw this thing for

940
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: free on ESPN Plus or on YouTube, he's gonna do

941
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: crazy numbers, crazy numbers, but not paying fifty bucks for it,

942
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 4: especially when you got the UFC pay per view and

943
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: now they're like ninety bucks, which is crazy inflation.

944
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: Man, it sucks.

945
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that's gonna be that's gonna be

946
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: the issue here, right, And again, I'm just curious to

947
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: see how it does. I'm just curious to see what

948
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 4: the market is for this. Maybe you get a few friends,

949
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: everybody throws in a you know, couple bucks, and you

950
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: get the paper view.

951
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: I'll say this, it's not I mean, now, I do

952
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 2: think that obviously Pettis has been able to fight at

953
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: or near his hometown as an MMA fighter. But something

954
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: we've discussed a number of times is a lot of

955
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: MM fighters never get that chance. They never get a

956
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: chance to actually fight in their hometown. So this is

957
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: not Pettus's first time there, but it is nice that

958
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: they put it in Milwaukee, where I think the Pettis

959
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: name still matters significantly. Obviously, Roy is a huge name.

960
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 2: I'd be curious to see how the live gate looks too.

961
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: That's going to be interesting one.

962
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be an interesting one because again,

963
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: going to the arena and watching it, it's a different experience,

964
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 4: right if you're if you're a Pettis fan, if you're

965
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: from Milwaukee, you know you've seen Pettis rise through a WCUFC,

966
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: you might want to go watch that and sure the money,

967
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 4: the money in that case is definitely worth it. And

968
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: that's something that I love about boxing. They they tailor

969
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 4: made their trips and their schedule around the locality of

970
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: their fighters, where this fight cells and whatnot, which is

971
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 4: very smart. The UFC kind of has a different approach

972
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: where they just kind of want to hit certain markets

973
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: to grow the brand rather to have any.

974
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 3: Specific fighter fight there.

975
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: Obviously, if they go to London, they'll have British fighters

976
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: or European fighters there. But for the most part, you know,

977
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: they they don't do as good of.

978
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: A job as that.

979
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 4: That's why Able fighting in Miami is so important this

980
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: coming weekend. He could have easily retired and never fight

981
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: in Miami. I mean, he's towards the end of his career.

982
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess, well done, game Bread for putting

983
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 4: this in Milwaukee.

984
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: Sort Of a small question, just for my own curiosity sake, Danny,

985
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: how much of Miami's population from South America is from Brazil.

986
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: You know, if you tried to like sort of make

987
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: a pie chart where the people who go to Miami

988
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: come from from South America, what portion would Brazil take up.

989
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: As far as tourism or actually like people that live.

990
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 2: Here live there that make it a home.

991
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 4: Uh, it's hard to put into percentage. There's definitely tons

992
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: of Venezuelans and Colombians. I would say that's the biggest one. Cuba, right,

993
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: Cuba as well, and I would say around those names,

994
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: Brazil would probably come in next.

995
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

996
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 4: Certainly, if you go up up north a little bit

997
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: more like Broward County, and above, so like still close

998
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: to Miami, Like you can go party in Miami, but

999
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: you got to drive back thirty minutes.

1000
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: You know, there's more Brazilians there for sure.

1001
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a big population. Why you're trying to

1002
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 4: sort of size up the Doo mas vedol thing.

1003
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, also they got a Brazilian in the main event, right,

1004
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: So that's right. I was like that, you know, like

1005
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: as if you think about it, it's like UFC is

1006
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: going to Miami and they're putting a ki Lee versus

1007
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: a Brazilian on the card. But then when you really

1008
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: think about it's like, well, it's actually a shitload of Brazilians,

1009
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: I think in a Brazils.

1010
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

1011
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: I just want to say I want to give YOUUFC

1012
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of credit in this case where they

1013
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: did kind of tailor the card a little bit more

1014
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: Hispanic leaning, a little bit more Brazilian leaning in that sense,

1015
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 2: think makeing a little bit more sense.

1016
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, for sure, this card again burns trains out

1017
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: of Kilcliff in Deerfield Beach. A lot of Brazilians around

1018
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: the area, especially in like Boca. Yeah, they got some

1019
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: some Brazilians on that card and again a bunch of

1020
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: Hispanic fighters.

1021
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: All right, But getting back to this card, I mean again,

1022
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: I don't really know what to say vet or belfore Jacquaray.

1023
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: So is a does it go past two rounds? I'd

1024
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: be shocked if it did, right.

1025
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 3: I think people are underestimating this fight.

1026
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely well. I'm not underestimating Vitor.

1027
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: I just don't underestimating jack Ray. Yeah, dude, Jackeray. Jackeray

1028
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 4: does have hands, and he's gotten. He's putting on wars

1029
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: like before, and then you have the extra padding on

1030
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: the gloves. If if he sort of defends and maybe

1031
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: has a rocky first or second round, I can totally

1032
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: see Vitor gassing out and then seeing an upset. I mean,

1033
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: who oh against Chris Wideman. That was a crazy war

1034
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: and he had a crazy chin and displayed good hands.

1035
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: I think people are sleeping on jack Ate. People think

1036
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: this is going to be a wash. It could be, right,

1037
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: but I also think there's room for an upset here.

1038
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: I'll just say this. I mean, if you live through

1039
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: Jacqueray's athletic prime, you know, I mean the state he's

1040
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 2: in now is just like barely I mean, he's still

1041
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: athletic obviously, but not even remotely what he once was.

1042
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: I saw him doing some I saw him doing some

1043
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: technique videos recently, and he just looked he looked like

1044
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: he needed some some joint supplement. I mean, he looked

1045
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: not even close to what he once did.

1046
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: You know, Maybe send me those videos.

1047
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: Maybe I changed my Maybe I'm over selling him and

1048
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: I change my pick here. Not that I'm picking him,

1049
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: but I changed my stance on this fight. But Jacker

1050
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 4: a greatest fighter to never fight for a UFC belt.

1051
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's a great question, because he was a

1052
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: Strikeforce champion. Luke Wackole took the game.

1053
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 3: They never get him a title shot, right.

1054
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, that's a great he Well, he's on that list, man,

1055
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: for sure, He's on that list. Yes, that's a great call. Danny,

1056
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: tell me about Jose Aldo versus Jeremy Stevens in boxing.

1057
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: More body shots from Jose Aldo maybe.

1058
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: First of all, that finish was beautiful, one of one

1059
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: of my favorite body shot finishes.

1060
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: And look, I gotta say, like a lot of people

1061
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: roll their eyes.

1062
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: When they hear of MMA fighters going into boxing, but

1063
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: I think fans should give Jose Aldo hear some respect.

1064
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: Because he is looking good. He's been doing boxing for

1065
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: a long time. It's not like he retired and he's like, yo,

1066
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: let me pick this up. Really his bantam weight run,

1067
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: and not even that. Even before that, he had abandoned

1068
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 4: kicks a long time ago and it was just mainly

1069
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 4: his hands.

1070
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: And I know he's.

1071
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: Solely been training boxing for several years now, so I

1072
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: got to give him some respect.

1073
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: Plus is the King of Rio.

1074
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: That dude deserves all the respect in the world. I'm

1075
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: not saying he's gonna become champion, but I think he

1076
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 4: could have sort of a Clay Collared similar run in

1077
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 4: boxing where he could fight some decent names and probably win.

1078
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see again, he's a little older,

1079
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: but we'll we'll see. I like the fight. I think

1080
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: this is going to be a fun one.

1081
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 4: Probably fight of the night and uh and yeah, I

1082
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: think this is gonna I don't know.

1083
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: I think this is going to steal the show. This

1084
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: should be a fun one.

1085
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: That one is the most intriguing one to me competitively anyway,

1086
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: for whatever that's worth. Also in the card, prol Gonzalez,

1087
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: who was wearing fruit roll ups as clothing yesterday, did

1088
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: you see that that was a funny Yep, yep. She

1089
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: certainly as well. Yeah she will she she is provocative

1090
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: taking on Gina Mazzani. Uh, you know, I don't have

1091
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: super crazy thoughts one way or the other. I will

1092
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: say this. Anthony Taylor, the guy who stole on Dylan

1093
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: Danis in the parking lot, who also fought uh who

1094
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: wasn't he fought the britt.

1095
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: He fought on the on the Floyd card.

1096
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: Jack Paul under Card. I think it was the either

1097
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: the first or second will fight. Yeah. Yeah, and he's

1098
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: taken on Joe Riggs, who has more miles on him

1099
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: than Roote sixty six. I mean, I don't want to

1100
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: talk badly about ju or Joe Riggs because he dude,

1101
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: there was a time not remember this if you've never

1102
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: seen Joe Riggs versus Kendall Grove, Holy fucking shit, go

1103
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: watch that. You're gonna talk about Joe Riggs. There was

1104
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 2: a moment in time, right around the moment where he

1105
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: fought Matt Hughes where obviously he fucked that fight up.

1106
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: But Joe Riggs had nasty ground and pound, really really

1107
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: good ground and pound. But he's just been doing it

1108
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 2: forever with injuries and god knows what else. I hope

1109
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: he's okay. I really do.

1110
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people don't know.

1111
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: But for a point in time he was like one

1112
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: of the best fighters in the world and Jim wise

1113
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: like people would talk really well about him, like, dude,

1114
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: this guy that Jim is a killer. But he did

1115
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: obviously have a lot of success, but probably not not

1116
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 4: as much as people thought he would. And another fight

1117
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: that I would recommend, Nick Diaz versus not the one

1118
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: in the hospital, but the one the actual author on

1119
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: Nick Diaz versus Joe Riggs.

1120
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: That was a fun fight, yees, though apparently the fight

1121
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: in the hospital was even better. So take that for

1122
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: what it's worth. And of course, if you want to

1123
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 2: get that, you can get Game bread Boxing on It'll

1124
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: be on Saturday and Milwaukee at the five Serve Forum

1125
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: if you're in Milwaukee, or you can get it on

1126
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: UFC Fight Pass. You still have to pay forty nine,

1127
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 2: nine and nine on top of it. I think fight

1128
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: dot tv has it as well. All right, we moved

1129
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: to topic number two. Danny some fight news and announcements.

1130
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: So I've got let's see one, two, three, I got

1131
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: six announcements here ready, let's go through them. Let's talk

1132
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: about them and see which ones you're up for, which

1133
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: ones you're not so up for. All right, we start

1134
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: with a big one, and this one is a gentleman

1135
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: who I know You've spoken to him many times. By

1136
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: the way, Danny, someone asked me yesterday whose personality in

1137
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 2: Mma is like really different depending on what language are speaking.

1138
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: It's just my personal opinion, Danny. And you obviously speak

1139
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: Spanish significantly better than I do, probably always will. Eliot

1140
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: Taporia in English doesn't come across the same to me

1141
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: as he does in Spanish, something that I think is

1142
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: quite true. He takes on Josh Emmett June seventeenth, so

1143
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: iligot Tuporia versus Josh Danny. If any fight fan out

1144
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: there has a pulse, surely it's being sent into overdrive

1145
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: with this one.

1146
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 3: No, yeah, one hundred percent.

1147
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 4: And this matchmaking came out of left field because we

1148
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 4: were talking about, you know, potentially a fight with Edsen Barboza,

1149
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: because I believe they were scheduled to fight him and

1150
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: to pour you at some point, but it fell through

1151
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: him and Brian Rothega since he had been calling him

1152
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: out forever and those other names, Josh Emmett because he

1153
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: was so linked to the title picture just now like

1154
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: it was he wasn't really a player at least in

1155
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 4: my eyes, and I know in many people's eyes as well.

1156
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: But now that they booked this fight, it's like, Oh, okay,

1157
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: that's why you have matchmakers, like a full time matchmaker,

1158
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: Like this is a fantastic fight. I am so excited

1159
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 4: for this when I am pumped and it's just an

1160
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: awesome fight.

1161
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 3: I am super high on nearly at the Purtya.

1162
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 4: I've been since probably since the Damon Jackson fight, and

1163
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 4: I've interviewed him a bunch.

1164
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: The dude is like the like the Spanish Georgian version

1165
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: of Connor McGregor in the sense, not so much in

1166
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: the fighting style, but he just has this poison, this confidence.

1167
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 3: He knows he's going to be champion, and he transmits

1168
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: that when he speaks.

1169
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: The dude's the star over there. The Spanish go crazy

1170
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: for him, and the Spanish are very underrated market. And

1171
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 4: by the way, Ilia born in Germany, lived in Georgia

1172
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 4: of Georgian descent, now lives in Spain. Started living in

1173
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 4: Spain when he was like thirteen or fourteen, speaks perfect Spanish,

1174
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: and the dude's a badass. The dude is a stud grappler.

1175
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: The dude has heavy ground and pound, heavy hands, tough

1176
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: as shit. I mean, I think he's definitely fighting for

1177
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: a belt, has all the potential to be champions.

1178
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 3: So this fight against Josh Shemmed is chef's kiss.

1179
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: A couple questions. Do you agree with my assessment that

1180
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: he sounds more. I don't know what the real version is,

1181
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: but the version when he talks in Spanish versus English,

1182
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: and I don't know about Georgian or Russian or any

1183
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: other language he might speak. But in terms of the

1184
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: difference there, it's his English is good, but his personality

1185
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: shows up in Spanish. True or false?

1186
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

1187
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 4: And I think that's the case with all fighters, that

1188
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: English is not their native language. And I can even

1189
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 4: speak personally, you know, I was. I was born in

1190
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 4: Columbia and in my first language was Spanish. There is

1191
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 4: a difference. Even like your voice changes, uh, you don't

1192
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: pronounce things similarly, and I would say your personality to some.

1193
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: Degree also shifts a little bit.

1194
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, in Spanish, he definitely comes off much much different again,

1195
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 4: like he just one. His vocabulary is is more extensive, right,

1196
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: like his knowledge of the language.

1197
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: So in English, I don't think he fully is able.

1198
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: To to one hundred percent communicate what he means to

1199
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 4: some degree. And in Spanish, yeah, he just guy can Yeah,

1200
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 4: the guy can talk his ass off in Spanish, all right.

1201
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: But he does get hit a lot. And Josh Emmett,

1202
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: as we know, has nuclear power. Who would you, from

1203
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 2: an odds perspective, favor in this one oh one hundred

1204
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: percent I'm giving give me an, give me an odds line,

1205
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: what you think it's going to look like.

1206
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 4: I think he should be probably and the minus not

1207
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: two hundreds, but close to it, like minus one ninety eight.

1208
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 3: I think I think I think he should be the.

1209
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: Favorite in this one. He's just much fresher than than

1210
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 4: Josh Emmitt. Yeah, Josh Emmitt has power, but we saw

1211
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 4: what Ji Herbert. Ji Herbert is a huge one fifty

1212
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: five and this is a one forty five, remember and

1213
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: just blasted. I think it was a head kick, right, yeah,

1214
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: and he was able to rally back. In my Spanish podcast,

1215
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 4: a lot of fans were sort of worried about his

1216
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: defense and this and that, and I understand those concerns

1217
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 4: as well, but you also kind of want your fighter,

1218
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 4: if you're a fan of theirs, of course, to kind

1219
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 4: of get their bell rung a couple of times, to

1220
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 4: test what their chin looks like, and not also that,

1221
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 4: but their survival instincts and their durability and resilience. And dude,

1222
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 4: he rallied back and got a nasty finish after you know,

1223
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: almost getting knocked out. A lot of fighters don't come

1224
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 4: back from that, so I think he should be all

1225
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: right here against Josh emmat But obviously, with that power,

1226
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: Josh emmittt can put away anyone. The only problem I

1227
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 4: see here is not that the power is not a threat,

1228
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 4: but Josh Emmett's striking arsenal is very limited. He uses

1229
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 4: sort of the same combinations, the same punches over and over.

1230
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 4: Ilia has a fantastic camp as a very very smart fighter.

1231
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: He should be able to train for the nuclear bombs

1232
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: and sort of stay away from him.

1233
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: I think should be. This is a big test. Also,

1234
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: another part about getting your bell wrung early is hey,

1235
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: go back to camp, why'd you get your bell wrung

1236
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: work on the game, So that doesn't happen again, Like

1237
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: you get those little mistakes that don't cost you the

1238
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 2: W and then set you up for further ws as

1239
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: the competition gets tougher and tougher and tougher. He's got

1240
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: that under his belt now, so super exciting. All right,

1241
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: this one, I'm not saying it's a bad fight, but

1242
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: I do have a question about it. Corey Anderson taking

1243
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: on Phil Davis set for Beltore two ninety seven if Belatore.

1244
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: Belatore has a claim to having the best light heavyweight

1245
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: division in the world, and I think that is very fair.

1246
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: Can debate it, but it's certainly not in any way

1247
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 2: a ridiculous claim. And these are two of the best

1248
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: life heavyweights on Earth. Cory Anderson obviously falling a little

1249
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: bit short against Videm Nemkov in his last contest in

1250
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: the rematch, although again we feel so fucking bad for

1251
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: Cory because he was winning the first one and then

1252
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 2: there was the accidental clash. So whatever, that's all behind us.

1253
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: It's a competitive fight. It's a fight between very good guys.

1254
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: The problem is, like Phil Davis is in a really

1255
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: interesting and weird place, so he leaves UFC and goes

1256
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: to Bellatore and to me, he like stopped doing interviews,

1257
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: Like when was the last time you saw like a

1258
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: Phil Davis interview, Like just I've never seen one in

1259
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: years at this point. He used to be like always

1260
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: doing interviews and everything. Even when he went to Belatour,

1261
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: initially he was doing a lot of interviews. He just

1262
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: kind of stopped doing them. And when he fights, man like, dude,

1263
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: they're not I mean, I'm just gonna be honest, they're

1264
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: not fun fights. Like there he slows it down, and

1265
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: I'm not telling Belatore, they got to cut the guy.

1266
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: It's not what I'm saying. But if you're a promoter,

1267
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: you have a choice to make. Phil Davis is very

1268
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 2: very good, but he doesn't do a lot of promotion,

1269
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: and his fight style is not very fan friendly. It's

1270
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: an interesting choice that they gave him to Corey. Right away,

1271
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: I think.

1272
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're on the money.

1273
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: I was actually wondering the exact same thing, because they've

1274
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 4: invested a lot of promotional assets in Corey Anderson, and

1275
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: to Corey Anderson's.

1276
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: Credit, he's lived up to his end. He does.

1277
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: Maybe he doesn't do a lot of media, but when

1278
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 4: he does he's on the mic calling people out. He

1279
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: you know, he's not afraid to to sort of rough

1280
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 4: with some feathers, and you know, he he does put

1281
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 4: on some exciting fights. Even though he's known for his

1282
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 4: wrestling whatnot, he's got some nasty finishes as well. Clearly

1283
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: a top guy and Phil Davis again, I'm not saying,

1284
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: you know, Belcher should cut him, but he is a

1285
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 4: bit of an issue in the sense that.

1286
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: He's very very good. He's very very good, and more

1287
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: often than not he beats a lead opposition right rarely loses,

1288
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 3: but when he loses, he still has something about him

1289
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 3: that still makes the winner look bad. A boring fight,

1290
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 3: lackluster fight. It's hard to look against us.

1291
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 4: It is extremely it's a loose loose because it's like

1292
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 4: either you're gonna either Cory Anderson is gonna lose, somebody

1293
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 4: that you've invested a lot in is and you're you know,

1294
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 4: selling him as you know, he had to win over

1295
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: the champion, you know, bloword to share this and that,

1296
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 4: or he wins and it's gonna be like, dude, that

1297
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 4: was not fun, right, Like, yeah, I don't know this

1298
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: is this is a weird one. And and something that

1299
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 4: I like to point out, and this is not me

1300
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: sort of criticizing or I'm not trying to be disrespectful

1301
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 4: toward Phil Davis, but something that I've noticed with a

1302
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 4: lot of fighters moving over to bellot or a lot

1303
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 4: of them kind of do it because they're I'm talking

1304
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 4: about the elite ones. They're tired of kind of the

1305
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: pressure that they get in the UFC to talk smack,

1306
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: to build up, hype up fights, this and that.

1307
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: It's just not in them.

1308
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 4: So they go to Belotour and they think, oh, I

1309
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 4: love it here because it's more merit based this, this

1310
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 4: and that.

1311
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: But I also want to remind them.

1312
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: Like it's still fighting, it's still prize fighting, is still promotion,

1313
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: Like you do got to put your part. I'm not

1314
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: saying go talk shit, but like this whole thing where yeah,

1315
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 4: you just disappear and you just show up and clock

1316
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 4: in and clock out, Like, I don't know, right, if you're.

1317
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: A promoter, you have a question to ask about that.

1318
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think you're right on the money. Dude,

1319
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: Phil Davis can fight, he's very very good, but promotionally,

1320
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: there's a question about what the value proposition is there

1321
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: all right, Uh, moving down the card, I mean, how

1322
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: do you not love this one?

1323
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 4: By the way, can we take a step back and

1324
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: interrupt you for a second. Sure you think he wins

1325
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: ends up fighting for the belt?

1326
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: You mean the winner of YA year and Alex not

1327
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: If ya wins, I think he's gonna have to beat

1328
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: him twice.

1329
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, because I kind of see that fight as

1330
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 4: as insurance plan a little bit. We got Holloway and Alan,

1331
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 4: but it's not a guarantee that Alan's gonna win. I

1332
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: doubt that Holloway will fight Volkanovski if Volkanovsky wins, which

1333
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 4: is probably most likely, right at least odds wise, I

1334
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 4: think they're they're keeping ilia there is like if if

1335
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: the things, you know, if things play out, you might

1336
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 4: be the next one.

1337
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: Kind of he's he's floating.

1338
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: He's floating right there, right, he's kind of right there.

1339
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: It's just if Yaier wins and it's controversial, do they're

1340
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: gonna run it back? You know what I mean? Even

1341
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: if he fucking finishes Alex, they might just it's I

1342
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't like this thing. I gotta okay, let's let's

1343
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: take a second here, Danny. I'm so glad you brought

1344
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: this up. Dude, I get respecting championship runs, right, and

1345
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: you were going back to like the Shivchenko thing with Grosso,

1346
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: where Grosso doesn't just win, she finishes her. Now, granted,

1347
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: the finish itself was I think you would even agree, like, yes,

1348
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: she trained for it, and like she hit it zero accidental,

1349
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: like nothing accidental about it. Must muscle memory one hundred percent.

1350
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: Like Grosso earned that one cleanly, but she was losing.

1351
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: You know, long stretches of that fight were there. It

1352
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: was a very difficult fight for her, I think, for sure.

1353
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: So winning you might say as a promoter, Okay, Chivchenko

1354
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: is up to this point was the only champion in

1355
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: this weight class, and you know, had had never lost

1356
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: in this weight class up to this point and everything else.

1357
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: So I can understand giving her a medic rematch, but

1358
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: I'm really tired of automatic rematches. I really do not

1359
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: believe that if you're gonna beat the champion, you gotta

1360
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: beat them twice. The problem I think for Yair is

1361
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 2: that Volkanowski isn't just the champion. The fucking guy is

1362
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: pound for pound number one or depending on your rule,

1363
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: number number two, Like he's right up there. I feel

1364
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: like even if Ya goes in there and just dusts him,

1365
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: they're gonna make him do it twice. Do you think

1366
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 2: that even if Ya hear dusts him, they're gonna make

1367
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: him do it twice.

1368
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 4: Only if Volkanowski wants it, Because I also see a

1369
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 4: scenario where Volkanowski is like, you know, f this, I'm

1370
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: going to one to fifty five. In many people's eyes,

1371
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 4: that'd be Isla Makasha if if the door's there.

1372
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: What's bigger a title fight?

1373
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 4: Because either way, you're not gonna be champion in either fight,

1374
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 4: at least going into it. What's a bigger fight A

1375
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 4: rematch with yair Well, depending on how the fight goes itself,

1376
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 4: it might be or right now, certainly it feels like

1377
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 4: Islam Makasha if might be a bigger fight.

1378
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: And with Connor back in the mix, it just seems

1379
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 3: that there's more.

1380
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 4: Money fights for Volkanovsky at one fifty five than one

1381
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: forty five. So if he wants it, yeah, he's probably

1382
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 4: gonna get the immediate rematch, but I'm not entirely sure

1383
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: he would want to run that back, especially depending on

1384
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: how it goes. Dude, people are under underestimating Jaide. Jaid

1385
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 4: is a motherfucker.

1386
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 2: That fight.

1387
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for that fight.

1388
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 2: That fight. Yeah, I think he's a I think he's

1389
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: the biggest threat to Alex in a long time, in

1390
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: a long time. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm a believer

1391
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: in Yayr's upside completely. Yeah.

1392
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 4: I talked to band who knows Jaida very well and

1393
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 4: he's trained with him very well, and he told me

1394
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 4: he's like, Danny, you have no idea how hard this

1395
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 4: guy kicks. You're almost in shock, Like it almost redefines

1396
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 4: how much power somebody can actually generate in a kick.

1397
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 4: Like you're like shook on how much power he puts

1398
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 4: behind his kick. So I'm excited for that one. I

1399
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 4: think obviously the champions should be favored, but don't sleep

1400
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 4: on Jide, dude.

1401
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: One of the things about Yah here that really stands

1402
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: out to me, I'm glad we're talking about this is

1403
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: and you see this with any kind of big, powerful

1404
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 2: strike that does it knock someone off of their feet,

1405
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: often with body shots. But when he was landing those

1406
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: body kicks on Josh Emmett and they were going through

1407
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: and like, but he was just eating them dud. It

1408
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 2: froze him. It froze him in place for just enough

1409
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: of a second where he just had to kind of

1410
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 2: like tense every muscle in his body to absorb the

1411
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: shock of it. But as a consequence, he couldn't move,

1412
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: and then he's getting lit up with everything else that

1413
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: comes right after it. Yeah, dude, I take you all

1414
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: your's chances against Alex very seriously.

1415
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 4: I think he's improving a ton too. We're basing this

1416
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 4: fight at least Odds Weiss on what Jaida looked like

1417
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 4: in his last performance. But I'm telling you that guy

1418
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 4: like Modeno, he's evolving. Like when he steps in there,

1419
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 4: I'm confident that he's going to be a way better

1420
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: version than the one we saw against EMMITTT for sure.

1421
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: All right, talk to me, Saragay Pavlov's taken on Curtis BLAINEZ.

1422
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 2: This will headline, but Curtis Blade, excuse me, this will

1423
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: headline UFC Vegas seventy one. Danny, how do you not

1424
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: love this contest? Sergey Pavlovich, I always talk about it.

1425
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: I had the wrong reading on the guy because his

1426
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: first fight in the UFC against Oveream, he kind of

1427
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: looked like shit in it, at least not like what

1428
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: he normally looks like now, and Obrim just over him.

1429
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: But since then he's just been taking everyone's heads off.

1430
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: Curtis Blade probably the most underrated fighter, certainly may maybe

1431
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 2: the most underappreciated fighter maybe in all of the UFC.

1432
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: A dynamite takedown threat and a guy who's fought the

1433
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 2: very best over and over. Do you like this fight?

1434
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: Size it up for me?

1435
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: I love this fight in a vacuum.

1436
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 4: I love the contrast between a frightening, scary striker and

1437
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 4: a stud wrestler who also has power, of course, but

1438
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 4: I absolutely love this fight.

1439
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: The thing that I hate is that.

1440
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 4: I have and I don't want to jinx it knock

1441
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 4: on wood, but I have a feeling the winner here

1442
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 4: is just bound to get screwed. I mean, we don't

1443
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 4: have a solution, or at least a fight booked already

1444
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 4: between John Jones and Steve em Jocic. I'm afraid that

1445
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 4: that might that might take a lot of time to book.

1446
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: I don't think the UFC would want to let that

1447
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: fight go because it's John Jones, it's Stepe right, it's

1448
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: a big fight, so they're willing to kind of push

1449
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 4: it as much as they can just in order to

1450
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 4: make that fight. So the only thing that sucks about

1451
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: this fight is that I feel like the winner. I'm

1452
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 4: not too convinced the winner will fight next for the

1453
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,959
Speaker 4: belt after this, but yes, the fight itself, fantastic fight.

1454
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 4: Should be number one contender the winner here, honestly, in

1455
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 4: all respect to step Ad Miyochich, but the winner here

1456
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 4: should deserve a fight with John Jones way more than Mijocic.

1457
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 3: But that's just the nature of the sport. But yeah,

1458
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: fantastic fight.

1459
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: These ones are smaller but kind of fun. Tim Means

1460
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: will take on Alex Morono UFC Fight Night on May thirteenth.

1461
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't have the number for you right away. Kind

1462
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: of like a fun welterweight contest and see what Tim

1463
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: Means has left Alex Moreno. I think he's gotten the

1464
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: most out of his skill set and has put together

1465
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: some pretty decent performances as a consequence. But it should

1466
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: be a fun one, right.

1467
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I love Tim Means. I'm a big

1468
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 4: Team Means fans. He's kind of like pre jem Has

1469
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, very skilled veteran, but very underappreciated at that

1470
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 4: guy at one point. I think he's obviously towards the

1471
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 4: end of his but at one point, that guy could

1472
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 4: have given, you know, trouble to any fighter in his

1473
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 4: weight class.

1474
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Carlos Olberg is going to take on Ihorre

1475
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: Potieria on the same card UFC Fight Night, May thirteen.

1476
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: Carlos Alberg, you know, I think we've still got a

1477
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: long way to go, but based on the last couple

1478
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: of performances, I thought have gone much better for him.

1479
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: And you know, he kind of gets written off as like, oh,

1480
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: he's a CKB guy, but he's a pretty boy, and

1481
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: you know, how good could he be? I guess we'll see.

1482
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: This is a decent test. I think this is an

1483
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: appropriate step up for him.

1484
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And he's been looking good.

1485
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his striking, very accurate, he's

1486
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 4: got power. It seems like he's learning how to manage

1487
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 4: the fight a lot better. I think there's there's a

1488
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 4: good level of upside to him.

1489
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: He's thirty two.

1490
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's gonna be champion or anything like that,

1491
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 4: but I think he could get into the rankings.

1492
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 3: He could have some fun fights. If he has a

1493
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: good performance.

1494
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 4: Here, I probably expect him to be fighting top fifteen

1495
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 4: opposition next.

1496
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't have much to add here. Last one Dianna

1497
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: Belbia taken on Maria olivera UFC two eighty nine, June tenth.

1498
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: For those who care, all right, let's go to topic

1499
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 2: number three here, Danny. This is an interesting one, whether

1500
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: to be a super sub or not. We just saw

1501
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: Colby Covington do it for the Leon Edwards and Kamar

1502
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: Usman fight. Remember, if you're gonna fill in for something

1503
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 2: like that on a title fight, you gotta make weight too, right,

1504
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: So that's the big part of it. You got to

1505
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: make championship weight. That's a big consideration. So Sean O'Malley

1506
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: was on his own show, The Timbo Sugar Show, and

1507
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: he said the following about UFC two eighty eight, which

1508
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 2: of course is going to be Henry Sahudo and Aljabner

1509
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: sterling quote. I was really planning on being a backup

1510
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: for Henry versus al Jo. Now we're at the point

1511
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: where it is, you know, going and doing a camp

1512
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: five five minute rounds planning on a fight is hard

1513
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: enough to do knowing you have a fight, but knowing

1514
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: you're probably not going to fight, I just can't train

1515
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: the same way, and I don't feel like I'm in

1516
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: a position where I'm like, well, it's my only opportunity.

1517
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: I need to be the backup. I was trying, but

1518
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: now at the point where all I'm like, f that

1519
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 2: if one of those dorks pulls out, reschedule it. Danny,

1520
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 2: if you were advising Sean O'Malley on whether or not

1521
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: to be a super SOB for Henry versus aldro Al Joe,

1522
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: would you do it or would you say decline it?

1523
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: At this time?

1524
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 4: Now, I think he's right on this one. I think

1525
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 4: he should because they're vastly different styles, and you know,

1526
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 4: he's only twenty eight years old. It's also like Koby Comington,

1527
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 4: for example, he's what like thirty four or thirty five

1528
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 4: his time to get a title shot, especially with the

1529
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 4: amount of contenders in the division, you know, it's very

1530
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 4: very limited.

1531
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 3: His chances are very low. So he's got to do

1532
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: absolutely everything he can do, if that means show up

1533
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 3: as a replacement and make weight, just to get himself

1534
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,719
Speaker 3: that opportunity, which clearly it worked for him. Sean Omalley

1535
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 3: is not in that position.

1536
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 4: He still has a lot of prime left, a lot

1537
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 4: of years in this sport.

1538
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 3: So why risk it? Why risk it?

1539
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,959
Speaker 4: Why go in there and you know, fight Aljamin Sterling unprepared,

1540
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 4: or fight Henry's who to unprepared and then lose and

1541
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 4: then have the climb back to the title be a

1542
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 4: long one. So I said, just sit back and perhaps

1543
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 4: to Sean Omalley, you know, people give him a lot

1544
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 4: of a lot of shit, and maybe people don't really

1545
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 4: they underestimate how smart he is because of the hair

1546
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 4: or whatever. He's always like smoking pot or whatnot. But

1547
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 4: the guy knows how to like manage his career quite well.

1548
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 4: And if I'm not mistaken, he's his own manager. It's

1549
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 4: also not like he's got an entire team advising him

1550
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 4: or whatever.

1551
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on point. Just sit out and wait and

1552
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: see what's up.

1553
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 2: I think I agree. Again, if you're older like Colby,

1554
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: that's one thing. Yeah, he's not even thirty yet, I

1555
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: don't believe, right Shanamalley. Uh So that's a difference. Also,

1556
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: like he did the UFC a real big solid because

1557
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: he'd been sitting out Kobe did for a while. With

1558
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 2: all the shit that's going on with Jorge and everything else.

1559
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: So he did that made the weight? Did the UFC

1560
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 2: a favor in the sense that like had a replacement

1561
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: on standby that was championship weight, could make for an

1562
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 2: interesting fight, fair enough, Sean O'Malley is already the number

1563
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: one contender. What the fuck would he be fighting for

1564
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: or other than or what the fuck would he be

1565
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: trading for cutting weight potentially not fighting in the spot

1566
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: that he's already earned, whether or not you think he

1567
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: beat you on or not the judges did. End of conversation. Really,

1568
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: he's already there, Like, what would I get that? It

1569
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: would make it great for the fans, and maybe the

1570
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: UFC would paying a bunch of money. But I actually agree, dude,

1571
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: cutting all that weight just to not fight when you

1572
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: don't really have to, The fuck is the point of that?

1573
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: You know?

1574
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: Ye?

1575
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: All right? All right? Topic number four, Carl Frotch has

1576
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: called out Connor McGregor. This is a weird one. I looked.

1577
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: I think Carl Frotch is like forty one. He retired

1578
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: of twenty four. He's older than that. Well no, no, no, sorry,

1579
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 2: I think he's like forty five. He retired in twenty fourteen.

1580
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: He retired like nine years ago. Here's what he said

1581
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: on a on his YouTube channel, answering fan questions, neither

1582
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: of them can box? Can they fraudt Sait When asked

1583
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: about McGregor boxing, Jake Paul quote, I'm too big and

1584
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: too strong for both of them, Jake Paul, I'd only

1585
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: need one arm. Connor, I'd give a few, might give

1586
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: a few small problems, but he's too small. I wouldn't

1587
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: train much for either of them. If I'm fighting Connor

1588
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 2: McGregor in the cage, I train harder because i'd fight

1589
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor in the cage. Yeah right. I could be

1590
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: getting myself in trouble here or into a position I

1591
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: can't wiggle out of, but I think i'd take him

1592
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: on the cage. Is that ridiculous? He's too small? Connor

1593
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 2: responded with a crying laughing emoji and then at Eddie

1594
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: Hearn get this signed up. Lad Froch is in fact

1595
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: forty five years of age, Danny, your temperature aren't Carl

1596
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: Froch versus Connor McGregor in a boxing match.

1597
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 4: Zero negative negative zero, just way way below subzero. I

1598
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 4: mean he retired literally a decade ago and no, in

1599
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 4: an MMA fight, you would get like destroyed in thirty

1600
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 4: seconds boxing. I mean, I don't know, he is older,

1601
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 4: but is there any interest in that?

1602
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good, I will say, though. Props to

1603
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: Connor McGregor.

1604
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 4: It seems he's got his Twitter notifications on because that

1605
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 4: dude is That dude fires back every single at every

1606
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 4: single shot day. Take at him giving his level start

1607
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: them quite impressive, don't you think.

1608
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is pretty active on Twitter. I don't follow him,

1609
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: but I definitely see all the responses on my for

1610
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: you algorithm because everyone else is show. Yeah, thanks Elan,

1611
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: But I was gonna say, where are you on like

1612
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor's future, Like BC and I Danny have a

1613
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: feeling that we feel like he's got at least could

1614
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 2: be more, but we definitely feel like he's got at

1615
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: least one good maybe even elite win in him. Like

1616
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: I definitely think he can do that, but I beyond that,

1617
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 2: I just really don't. I just don't fucking know. Where

1618
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 2: are you on Connor McGregor these days?

1619
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's such a good question, I think, and

1620
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 4: I might I may eat shit after this because he

1621
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 4: I don't know who. He may go on and do

1622
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 4: crazy shit after, but I'm pretty confident in saying that.

1623
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 3: His elite days are over. Elite me a top five fighter.

1624
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 4: I do think though, if he were stripped to stardom

1625
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 4: and he's just fighting and just a regular, you know,

1626
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 4: active fighter, I do think he probably belongs in the

1627
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 4: top fifteen at one five, definitely, seven, one seventy.

1628
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: Probably.

1629
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 4: I do think he's good enough to be a ranked fighter.

1630
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 4: You know, he's got power. We'll see how he looks.

1631
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 4: He's had those cardio issues in the past. With this

1632
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 4: added muscle mass plus the age, I think that that's

1633
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 4: probably gonna get worse. I think, I don't know, we'll see,

1634
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 4: but certainly very interesting. It's also hard to count out

1635
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 4: the guy. I mean, the guy has so done so

1636
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 4: much in the sport, has a mentality like none other.

1637
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 4: You do wonder how much of that still remains. But

1638
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 4: I would be surprised if he fights more than three times.

1639
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 4: I think he's got two three fights max.

1640
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 3: And depending on.

1641
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 4: The right matchup, yeah, he could probably be a ranked fighter.

1642
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 4: Like I don't rule him out at all against Michael Chandler,

1643
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 4: but him being champion once again on think that's in

1644
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 4: the cards.

1645
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: Gone to your head. And right now, does he beat

1646
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: Michael Chandler if they fight third quarter, fourth quarter of

1647
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: this year? Ah, yeah, I say this. You have the

1648
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 2: right to change your mind between now and then, But

1649
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,520
Speaker 2: as it stands right now.

1650
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.

1651
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: Yes. I think he does. Yeah, I think he does,

1652
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: especially if it's at one seventy. I think he does. Yeah.

1653
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: I mean he can crack, that's for sure.

1654
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: We shall see. All right, Well, we go to topic

1655
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 2: number five here before we get to our creator own

1656
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: game bred boxing card, we'll do some quick hitters here

1657
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: along the way. Danny, contract talks have resurfaced and restarted

1658
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: between Errol Spence and Bud Crawford from Calvin Watkins. He says.

1659
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 2: In fact, contract talks have restarted for an undisputed welterweight

1660
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: title fight between the two. According to a person with

1661
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: knowledge of the talks, Danny, you're probably as burned on

1662
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: this one as the rest of us are. And just like,

1663
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 2: when the fuck is this going to happen? Your level

1664
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 2: of confidence that in the year of our Lord twenty

1665
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: twenty three we get a fight between Aerol Spence and

1666
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 2: Bud Crawford at either one forty seven hundred and fifty

1667
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 2: four pounds very low.

1668
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 3: It's boxing. I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick

1669
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: of it. Same thing with the fury and you sick.

1670
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: I'm so sick of it. Either fight or don't come on.

1671
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I think at the game bread Pressure Royd

1672
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 4: Jermans Junior was saying something like that, like like, you

1673
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 4: know these times, like back in my day, you wanted

1674
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 4: to fight the toughest guy, like you wanted to prove.

1675
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 4: That's something I hate about boxing. I don't think it

1676
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: goes down, to be honest, but we'll see. But I'm

1677
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 4: pretty sick of just hearing the rumors, hearing the reports,

1678
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,919
Speaker 4: having the fight get you know, fall through or get canceled.

1679
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 3: Either fight or don't, man, that's it.

1680
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know who to blame

1681
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 2: for the last round falling through, but to me, the

1682
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: fact that Bud pulled out and then took a bunch

1683
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: of money from BLK Prime and then BLK Prime went

1684
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: out of business is like, I'm not sure who's committed

1685
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 2: to this and who's not. But I have a feeling

1686
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: that this time, at least the last time. Anyway I

1687
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: can blame. But but all right, let's set up something

1688
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: that you got done here Ryan Hall? Ready for this one?

1689
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: Maybe I heard this one wrong. You spoke to him.

1690
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: We have your footage here, maybe you can set it up, Danny.

1691
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: Is it true since his last UFC fight, Ryan Hall

1692
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: has had sixteen sixteen surgeries?

1693
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: Yep, that's what he said.

1694
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: Let's fucking insane.

1695
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 3: That's of shit.

1696
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 4: And yeah, and a lot of it was just because

1697
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 4: things were done not properly. He had an infection when

1698
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 4: he got I believe his aco repaired and he had

1699
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 4: to like go back and address that. Yeah, the guy

1700
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 4: has been through a knife quite a lot.

1701
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

1702
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: We got this clip. Let's roll the clip when you

1703
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: speaking to now, let me set this up. Ryan Hall

1704
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: was cornering Corey Sandhagen in San Antonio. You went to

1705
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: UFC San Antonio's Let's take a look at the clip

1706
01:17:58,880 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 2: here been.

1707
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 5: Up to It's thanks to be honest, it's a bit

1708
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 5: of a bit of a saga, you know. I had

1709
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 5: when after so I kind of started getting I spent

1710
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 5: about ten years not being injured, and then I got

1711
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 5: just a couple of bad luck, like getting fallen on

1712
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 5: a couple of times, like tour hip flexa really badly

1713
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 5: prior to my first fight in twenty twenty one, and

1714
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 5: had like a torn like a really really bad tear

1715
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 5: in the bottom of my foot, so a lot of things

1716
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 5: started to add up. Broke my hand in that's first

1717
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 5: fight in twenty twenty one and basically went through finished

1718
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 5: that fight and had that fight in December, and then

1719
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 5: went into the next year. I was gonna do ADCC,

1720
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 5: gonna do some competitions, and I'd actually just agreed to

1721
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 5: a fight in August of twenty twenty two, but unfortunately

1722
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 5: got fallen on toar my acl torm and meniscus, and

1723
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 5: long and short of it, it's been sixteen surgeries since,

1724
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 5: but we're on the on the back end of it.

1725
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,879
Speaker 5: I just had one on Tuesday. But it's a fortunately

1726
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 5: kind of go in the right direction. So I'm looking

1727
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 5: forward to being back healthy, feeling better than I having

1728
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 5: a very very long time, and looking forward to competing

1729
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 5: against soon.

1730
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 3: Bro yep. Do you want to be a fighter, dude?

1731
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,879
Speaker 2: How many have you have you ever had surgery? Yeah?

1732
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: So what did? I don't you don't have to tell me?

1733
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: You hear in time. Did you did you go under?

1734
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: Obviously because sometimes you don't necessarily have to, but did

1735
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: you go under? Yeah? Yeah, can you now? I had

1736
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: to get The last time I had surgery was May

1737
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: of nine. I had this shoulder repaired. Man. When you

1738
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 2: when the anesthesia ologist comes and tells you, like all

1739
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: the things that could go wrong with anesthesiology or of

1740
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: the administering of the anesthetic, and then you have to

1741
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 2: sign a waiver and shit, do that? That's that like

1742
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: sits with you for a moment when you begin to

1743
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: go under. Uh to do that sixteen times? And by

1744
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: the way, his last fight was against Derek Minner in

1745
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty one. Yeah, so in a year

1746
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: and some change he's had I mean, that's more than

1747
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: one surgery a month. Dude. That's fucking insane.

1748
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 3: That is that is wild. Yeah. So yeah, he last

1749
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: fight in December of twenty twenty one.

1750
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 4: Was supposed to return in August of twenty twenty two,

1751
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 4: but he got injured again and had to do a

1752
01:19:58,720 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: has to get even more surgery.

1753
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it's it's rough. I will say I

1754
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 3: think a lot.

1755
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 4: A few of those surgeries were like maintenance surgeries, because

1756
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 4: he did tell me like, yeah, there was like some

1757
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 4: big issues like obviously tormniscus, torn acl and whatnot. But

1758
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 4: uh and then he had you know, complications with that.

1759
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 4: But while he was also under the knife, He's like,

1760
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 4: I might as well just you know, if I'm already

1761
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm gonna sit out for eight months,

1762
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 4: I might as well just do ten and then take

1763
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 4: care of all these nagging injuries. So he's kind of

1764
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 4: you know, doing a Ryan Hall at two point zero

1765
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 4: and just doing a full reconstruction, you know.

1766
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I hope he's healthy. I want

1767
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 3: to see if he's gonna fight.

1768
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 4: I want to see him healthy because you know, I mean,

1769
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 4: you know him brilliant mind. I think he would be

1770
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 4: a fantastic corner and a coach, very very skilled guy.

1771
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 4: I only want to see him fighting if he's healthy.

1772
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 2: Jesus. I've known Ryan a long time, and uh, man,

1773
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: I always think about when guys say stuff like this,

1774
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: like Chris Wyman, I think has had more than like

1775
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: thirty or forty surgery some something, some absurd some absurd number,

1776
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: and it's always like, dude, what is there arthritis going

1777
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: to look like at fifty. I really want to know,

1778
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 2: you know, I hope not too bad, but that is

1779
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: a shit ton, all right. Danny speaking of Chris Widman,

1780
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 2: he is zeroing in on a return to MMA action

1781
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: in July. From MMA News, apparently, Wideman said to UFC

1782
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 2: unfiltered quote, I think in the summer, sometime in the summer,

1783
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: I was saying June, but I'm thinking maybe International Fight Week,

1784
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 2: which courses be July sometime around that time period. It'll

1785
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: be good to go back to get at one eighty

1786
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 2: five because remember he moonlighted briefly at two o five.

1787
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 2: I got down to two ten for this grappling event

1788
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: which he just did Polaris. He actually looked pretty good, Actually,

1789
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: yeah he did. And my weight's not flying back up again,

1790
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 2: so I'll be good. I'll be good to make one

1791
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: eighty five now. So Danny thoughts on Chris Widman coming

1792
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: back and at one eighty five rather than two five.

1793
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm a little bit uneasy about it.

1794
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 4: But I did see his Polaris performance. He looked good,

1795
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 4: very very close match that he had, and then you know,

1796
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 4: he had that post fight interview there or postmatch interview

1797
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 4: and I don't know, man, I'm kind of letting the

1798
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 4: emotions take me away.

1799
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 3: But you know you can tell it meant a lot

1800
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 3: to him just to get back and grapple. I do

1801
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 3: think he's.

1802
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 4: Doing it, not for money or any other reason. I

1803
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 4: think he's wanting to return to the UFC because of

1804
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 4: competition he misses and he feels like he still has

1805
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 4: a lot to give. Obviously, we've seen similar scenarios where

1806
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 4: fighters just still have that feeling.

1807
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 3: And go on too long.

1808
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 4: I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt

1809
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 4: and before I start calling for retirement and this and that,

1810
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 4: just one fight, one fight, Let's see how he looks like.

1811
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 4: But my I don't think there's too much promise. I

1812
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 4: don't know if he's gonna be champion. I know he's

1813
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 4: talked about that before. I don't know how much success

1814
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 4: he can have. Certainly his his career in recent years

1815
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 4: has not been great. And then you add a crazy

1816
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 4: injury like the one he had is snapping his leg

1817
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 4: into Yeah, I don't know.

1818
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 3: I don't like his chances.

1819
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 2: So his last, to me, his last like really good win,

1820
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: like really dominant win, would be the Kelvin Gastolon win,

1821
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,959
Speaker 2: which he won via arm triangle after losing to Musasi

1822
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 2: in the third round. That'd be like a pretty good win.

1823
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,879
Speaker 2: That was twenty seventeen seven.

1824
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: Pieced up on that one. I was there in Long Island.

1825
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 2: He did. But what I mean to say is he

1826
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: got the finish. It was a ranked guy, you know

1827
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like he didn't okay, because the Jakaray fight,

1828
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: he had a back and forth, actually looked really good

1829
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: at times, but he got finished off. The Dominic Rays

1830
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: fight doesn't count because he got blown out so quickly.

1831
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: And again he looked good in the Musasi fight in

1832
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 2: large part until he didn't whatever, And then I know

1833
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 2: it was controversial because of the hands touching and all

1834
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I'm just saying he got a

1835
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: win over a good guy at a good time. Fine,

1836
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: I'll give it to him. But then after that he

1837
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: loses to Jakaray, which was a terrible one, got destroyed

1838
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 2: by Reyes. Then he does come back and beat omarok Metof,

1839
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: but that was real workman like right, and then he

1840
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 2: had the broken leg in seventeen seconds against a Rayah Hall.

1841
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, he did look good at Polaris,

1842
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 2: I will give him credit, but you know, like at

1843
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: thirty eight, just saying I'm gonna come back and like

1844
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 2: start beasting these guys with all those injuries and all

1845
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 2: that time off, I just don't believe it.

1846
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I would.

1847
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 4: Like almost it would make me feel more easy if

1848
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 4: he kind of would take the Matt Huges route after

1849
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 4: you know, his his couple of title fights where it

1850
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 4: was like, dude, I'll fight Hensel Gracie, I'll fight Matt Sarah.

1851
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 3: You know, these type of names where it can keep

1852
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 3: him active. You know, he is a name.

1853
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 4: I do think he's he's got something left in the tank.

1854
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 4: I mean, just look at the Pollard's performance, Like you know,

1855
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 4: he was clearly in shape.

1856
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: He's still a good grappler. I don't know.

1857
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 4: Put him in some fights Andrew Muonize or some other

1858
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 4: guys like on the lower rankings are outside of it.

1859
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 4: There are good names, and I don't want to see

1860
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 4: him against like a Vitory or someone like that, Like

1861
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1862
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: I definitely don't. I mean, I know what he's gonna

1863
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: say if, like is he wrestles Pereira to the ground,

1864
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like, oh I could do that, and

1865
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, please, I don't want any part

1866
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: of that. Yeah, all right, go ahead.

1867
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 4: Last word on this, No, I was just gonna say, like,

1868
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 4: that's something that I don't like that's been brought with.

1869
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 4: But I'm becoming champion, like all of a sudden, everyone's look,

1870
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 4: oh I can be champion. It's like, well, I mean,

1871
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: it's like under very specific circumstances, right, like.

1872
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Right, I get it all right, Last, but not least,

1873
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 2: on this one, Danny Brian Ortega reveals he's close to

1874
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: being fully healthy again. He told De Shmo shouts to

1875
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: the de Shmo we love him here quote. I'm excited.

1876
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: I can't wait to be back soon. Right now, I've

1877
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: got three weeks left of just working through the process

1878
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 2: of these training scenarios and things that I'm doing right now.

1879
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: But three weeks to a month it's what they are

1880
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: finally giving me to say, hey man, you can finally

1881
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 2: start training full blast. So I basically got a month left.

1882
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: Anyone that my manager says we got to do it

1883
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: with that we got a fight, then that's what it

1884
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: is going to be. I'm ready. I've never backed out

1885
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 2: of any fight, and I'm excited to come back Danny

1886
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 2: level of excitement for a return to Brian or Tagat.

1887
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: But more importantly, what do you think he can really

1888
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: do left with his time this featherweight division.

1889
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 3: I don't know, that is a great question. I do

1890
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 3: think he's extremely skilled.

1891
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 4: I do think although he's taking a lot of damage,

1892
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 4: I don't I don't have the same concern as I

1893
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 4: would for a Chris Widman.

1894
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 3: He's still fairly young. Held is her take as he thirty?

1895
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: He is. I will tell you, Brian, don't take us

1896
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: thirty two.

1897
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 4: Okay, thirty two, just turn you know, Okay, when he

1898
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 4: stopped fighting, you know he was fighting the top contenders, right,

1899
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 4: It's not like he was. He was, you know, fighting down.

1900
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 4: So I'm I do think skill wise he can compete. Heck,

1901
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 4: he can maybe even become champion under the right circumstances.

1902
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 4: I'm just really concerned about that shoulder injury. I know

1903
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 4: people with shoulders injuries. One of my main training partners

1904
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 4: back when I trained jiu jitsu had a pretty bad

1905
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 4: shoulder injury and whatever. For whatever reason, the science is

1906
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 4: not cut up to be able to fully repair that

1907
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 4: and return it to its original form, Like if you

1908
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 4: have our you like a bad shoulder, you're kind of

1909
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 4: stuck with that for life.

1910
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 3: We saw it with TJ. Dillashaw.

1911
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 4: We've seen it with the other fighters, and especially with

1912
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 4: Bryan Retega being a grappler, that's you know, a lot

1913
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 4: of shoulder movement.

1914
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just not too confident in what

1915
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 3: he can do.

1916
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 4: Again, I want to reserve my judgment until he returns

1917
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 4: and does something. But uh, but I would just say, man,

1918
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 4: take your time.

1919
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 3: And I don't know.

1920
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 4: Man, just I've seen shoulder injuries and they don't they

1921
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 4: don't end up.

1922
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I had mine repair. That was the last

1923
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 2: one that I had. Uh And uh, well, I mean

1924
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 2: I'm not a pro athlete. I'm not an athlete of

1925
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: any kind, so I don't I'm not I'm not facing

1926
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: the same riggers, so I generally have most of the

1927
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 2: same functionality. But I've told people this, like it depends

1928
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: on the nature of your injury and everything else. But

1929
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: I tore my labor and I tore it. I tore

1930
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 2: it like cleaned all the way through, and they had

1931
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: to restitch it together. And when they restitch it together,

1932
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: what they do is they make sure they actually stitch

1933
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: it tighter than what your original mobility allowed for because

1934
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 2: they want to make because once it's I mean, the

1935
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: joint is so mobile. It can go forward, like you know,

1936
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: your elbow just bends, your knee just bends, your shoulder

1937
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: can go side, it can go front, it can go backward,

1938
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 2: it can do all kinds of stuff. So because it

1939
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: has that mobility, it actually lacks the integraty, the the

1940
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: joint integrity that something like a knee or even an

1941
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: elbow might have because it just goes one way. And uh,

1942
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: they actually sew it together much tighter, so you don't

1943
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 2: have the same mobility anymore. Because once that's compromised, once

1944
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 2: the label is compromised, their only choice is to actually

1945
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 2: reduce mobility, not try to restore it. It's not possible anymore.

1946
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:37,839
Speaker 2: So we shall see.

1947
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 4: I would say this, if he does return this year,

1948
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 4: I would like for him to get a tune up

1949
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 4: fight somebody very low in the rankings or even outside

1950
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 4: of it, with a good name.

1951
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 3: Dude, that guy's been.

1952
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 4: Fighting nothing but hammers, and I think it's time he

1953
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 4: takes a little breather. I mean, just look at these

1954
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 4: last few names, Geirodriguez, Bokanowski, Korean zombie, Max Holloway. Dude,

1955
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 4: that is a that is a tough skeed and you

1956
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 4: can keep going down the line. Frank Eduar kub Swansen,

1957
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's time for him to

1958
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 4: get a tune up and see how he looks.

1959
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 2: The other part, too, is like it's so funny, man.

1960
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: You look at his record. He's only got three losses,

1961
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: Max Volkanowski and then the year one, which was he

1962
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: was getting pieced up a little bit in that fight,

1963
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: but it didn't even go around. Like, you can't make

1964
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 2: a full judgment about this one, right, so it's hard

1965
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: to know what to say. It's not much, but here's

1966
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 2: the deceiving part, right, here's the deceiving part. And for example,

1967
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 2: the Guida fight that was a blood and guts fight.

1968
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: In the Muikano fight, Moikana was kicking his ass prior

1969
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 2: to that. So the cub Swanson fight, actually I think

1970
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 2: that mostly went his way. And then Frank Jeger he

1971
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: does it off inside. But I'm pointing out, you add

1972
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 2: that to the Max Holloway loss, You add that to

1973
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: the Volkanovski loss, Dude, it's a shit ton of damage.

1974
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: He's taken an absolute metric ton, even though the record

1975
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: doesn't exactly show you that.

1976
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, between the Volkanovsky and Holloway fights, there's probably like,

1977
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 3: you know, ten or twelve fights combined there, you know,

1978
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 3: if you just added the damage. So, yeah, he's young.

1979
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 4: He doesn't even have twenty fights in his record, but

1980
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 4: mileage wise, he's up there for sure.

1981
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 2: All right, before we call it a day here on

1982
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: today's show, that's it for the top five topics. We

1983
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 2: actually have this game bread card happening this weekend, So

1984
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 2: what's happening with it? As you know, with Pettis taking

1985
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: on ROYD Jones Junior, it's like MMA versus boxing. But

1986
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 2: then down the card we have like Stevens versus Aldo,

1987
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 2: which is also just MMA versus MMA in boxing. So

1988
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 2: Danny and I are gonna build let's see a five

1989
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 2: fight card each where you could either do MMA versus

1990
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 2: boxing or MMA versus MMA in some kind of unusual

1991
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 2: way for a boxing contest. Danny will go one by one.

1992
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 2: You can go first, you can start top to bottom

1993
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: or bottom to top, however you want to do it.

1994
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 2: I give you the floor, sir, give me the first

1995
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: fight on a five fight kind of game bred style card.

1996
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna alternate.

1997
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: We'll alternate, yes, ogat.

1998
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, So my main event is gonna be friendsis in

1999
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 4: ghan with the hottest free agent right now versus Deonte Wilder.

2000
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 4: If this Tyson Fury talk, I mean, if you want

2001
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 4: to sell competition, this is competition. Sure Wilder will be

2002
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 4: considered the favorite, but out of all that bunch of

2003
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 4: the top heavyweights in boxing, we can all agree that

2004
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 4: Wilder probably has the most questionable defense, is probably the

2005
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 4: least technical. I think that would be a fantastic fight.

2006
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 4: I think it's a fight where sure and Ghanu would

2007
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 4: not be the favorite, but certainly would have a chance.

2008
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 4: And that would be not only a big selling point,

2009
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 4: but a big interest point, like ghan who could actually

2010
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 4: get a gun?

2011
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 3: Who knows?

2012
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 2: Right?

2013
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 3: So that's my number one. That's my main event, man.

2014
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: And when I think about all the potential MMA versus

2015
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 2: boxing crossover fights, there is not one better than this one,

2016
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 2: like because, as you pointed out, you got two of

2017
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: the hardest hitters in their respective sport. Again, in the

2018
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: case of Deonte, historically powerful, right, And I guess I

2019
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 2: guess Francis is too historically powerful in MMA, and yes,

2020
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 2: Deontay is a much better boxer than Francis, but he's

2021
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 2: not like he's super technical. He's not. Yeah, that one,

2022
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 2: that one's interesting to me. I really hope they make

2023
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 2: that one. I would. I would. You could easily get

2024
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: me to pay for that one. Not hard at all?

2025
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the biggest versus the biggest power in boxing.

2026
01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And again it's somewhat competitive by the fact

2027
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 2: that Wilder is not like super technical. You know, all right,

2028
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 2: how about this one? You gotta think outside the box, Danny.

2029
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 2: You'd have to put it in a place where the

2030
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 2: commission wouldn't say no, and you got to play with

2031
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 2: the weight a little bit. Okay, I realized the two

2032
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 2: names I'm about to give you can be very far

2033
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 2: apart in weight. But there are ways to make this work.

2034
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Tank Davis versus Connor McGregor, Tank Davis

2035
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 2: versus Connor McGregor. And here's why, I'm gonna tell you

2036
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 2: why Tank Davis's power one thousand percent would carry up.

2037
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:46,760
Speaker 2: I don't have any doubt about that whatsoever. He could

2038
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 2: very much hold his own. He's obviously a much better

2039
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 2: boxer than Connor, but he is much smaller there. If

2040
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 2: you put it in a smaller ring, there are ways

2041
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 2: for Connor to corner him. Obviously, you'd be massive star

2042
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 2: in boxing versus massive star in MMA. Have to figure out,

2043
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, whatever weight you're gonna do there, because Gervonte

2044
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 2: would you would probably could get to one forty five

2045
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 2: and not much more, so you'd have to kind of

2046
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 2: play with the weight in terms of the regulations. Tank

2047
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 2: Davis versus Connor MacGregor grade my pick Danny.

2048
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 3: A plus A plus. I love that fight, yeah, I would.

2049
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 3: Actually I'll put it at a minus. I would say

2050
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 3: McGregor versus Day versus Ryan. I think I think that fight.

2051
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 2: You keep that one too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2052
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 3: I like that one.

2053
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 4: And there's a there's there're more maybe not. The weight

2054
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 4: is fairly similar. Well, Ryan is a little bit heavier than.

2055
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 2: A little bit bigger David bigger, and he's.

2056
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 3: Definitely taller, so it'll look a little bit more.

2057
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 2: But I love it.

2058
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least called the build up as well. Davis

2059
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 3: versus McGregor would be stupid.

2060
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, let's who's your comin on the

2061
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 2: on the Danny the Danny game bread card.

2062
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm gonna go again, copy you a little bit

2063
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 4: and go with McGregor. But this time I'm keeping an

2064
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 4: m M A figure and I'm gonna go Max Holloway

2065
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 4: Gregor versus Max Holloway and boxing. They got beef. They

2066
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 4: got a story.

2067
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 3: From MMA Power versus Volume, Hawaiian versus Irish.

2068
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: I love it.

2069
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 3: Sign me up.

2070
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, Max Holloway making claims about

2071
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 2: being the best boxer in MMA, like kind of getting

2072
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 2: him in there? It makes some sense. Gun to your head?

2073
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 2: Who who would win? I guess it would be at

2074
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: like what one fifty four? Who would win that one?

2075
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Do you think if it's if it's twelve rounds, I'm

2076
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 2: picking Max.

2077
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm picking Max. I'm going with Max.

2078
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. All right now, my comayine, this is easy. This

2079
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: is easy. I don't know how I no one else

2080
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: thought of this one. Israel Alisnya taking on Alex Pereira

2081
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 2: in boxing. They've already fought in kickboxing, They've already fought

2082
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 2: in MMA. They both can box. Dude, why would you

2083
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: not do this?

2084
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 4: Have?

2085
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: What has there ever been a pair that have fought

2086
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: across three different like striking based sports. Maybe there is,

2087
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm not aware of it, but it's certainly I don't.

2088
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 2: I can't recall one off the top of my head.

2089
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 2: This would be This would be kind of fun, wouldn't it.

2090
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. I'd honestly that. Yeah,

2091
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 4: And I think it would still be pretty high level. Obviously,

2092
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 4: these guys are not world class boxers, but you know,

2093
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 4: in kickbox and they do throw a lot of hands.

2094
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 3: I think I think you would actually see a pretty

2095
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: high level fight.

2096
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be that bad, wouldn't be that bad, be kind

2097
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 2: of fun. I love all Right, who's your feature fight?

2098
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Triple G versus shaft Cut ROCKMANO.

2099
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, they are similar in weight. Yes, you could

2100
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: do sixty eight verses one seventy. Yeah, that's pretty good.

2101
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 3: That would be a fun one.

2102
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 4: Triple G obviously the way better boxer, but he is

2103
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 4: kind of slowing down a little bit.

2104
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 3: Shoftcut's got that youth in him, you know, moves forward,

2105
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 3: he's got power. I think it'll be a fun fight.

2106
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 2: Also in all Kazakhstan affair, right exactly.

2107
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,680
Speaker 3: You can the a you know, I'm not.

2108
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 4: I don't have any any ties with any arenas. I

2109
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 4: go where the fighters, you know where the fighters are from.

2110
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 4: I'll do that fighting costa stunt.

2111
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 3: Why not?

2112
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why not? All right? For my future fight, I'm

2113
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 2: gonna go Patricio Pitbull versus Alexander Volkanovski. You know, we're

2114
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: not gonna get it in MMA. We're probably not gonna

2115
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 2: get this one in boxing, But I would love to

2116
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: see what it would look like if Patricio fought Alexander Volkanowski.

2117
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 2: And both of them have very MMA centric striking even

2118
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 2: even their boxing, but I think it would be competitive.

2119
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 2: I think it would be really fun. Pitt Bull's got

2120
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 2: some pop even at one forty five. We know that's

2121
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 2: a fun one. I feel like I love it. Yeah,

2122
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 2: that's a good one.

2123
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 3: Also shots out to Pitbull for dropping to one thirty five.

2124
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 3: Holy shit, that guy.

2125
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 4: That might have been his way class all along, right, Like,

2126
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 4: who knows, We'll we'll find out.

2127
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 2: But people are like very rough cut. People are like,

2128
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 2: that's a rough cut. Again. I'm not saying it's not

2129
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 2: like a difficult cut. But I've seen Pitbull in person

2130
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 2: many times. I've interviewed him many times in person, dude,

2131
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: the fact that he's one forty five is honestly surprising.

2132
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Fuck one fifty five. He's not a big one forty

2133
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 2: five at all.

2134
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw him in person. I've seen him in

2135
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 4: person ultiple times.

2136
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 3: Last time I saw him was for that McKee rematch

2137
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 3: or was it the first one, whatever the tournament was, Yeah,

2138
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 3: the first one. Uh, dude. You know I'm not very tall, right,

2139
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 3: I'm Colombian. I'm about his height, if not, maybe a

2140
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 3: little bit taller. Obviously he's a lot more muscular than me.

2141
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 3: But he can make thirty five easily. Yeah, not easy, comfortable.

2142
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 2: But I don't I don't think that I think he'll

2143
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 2: be able to do it. Yeah, yeah, I don't think.

2144
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 2: Go ahead, your next one.

2145
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: His performance will be diminished the next one.

2146
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna keep this mma versus Mma, Alexa, Grasso, Gontra,

2147
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 4: Jessica Andrage.

2148
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so let me size it up right now,

2149
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 2: make a much better boxer, write much better boxer. But

2150
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 2: Androge got that fucking dynamite in her hands, right.

2151
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,959
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's gonna be a lot of cutting the distance.

2152
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 4: And you know, Alexa keeping and Alexa can crack too,

2153
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 4: and she can move forward. I think that'll be That'll

2154
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 4: be a stupid fight, and I hope it happens an

2155
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 4: mma too, that that'd be fun one.

2156
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: That would be a great one, and also just you know,

2157
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 2: good to get some women's fight on the card. There.

2158
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: I didn't put any on mine, which makes me a

2159
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 2: bit This one is not my favorite pick. I was

2160
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 2: trying to think a little bit outside the box because

2161
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to sort of put some different names together,

2162
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: and this one doesn't quite work, but I still like

2163
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 2: the idea of it a little bit. How about Robert

2164
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 2: Whittaker versus Anderson Silva. Now, I get what anyone's gonna say.

2165
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: Anderson's old. He couldn't even beat Jake Paul know about

2166
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: Robert Whittaker. But like if we could somehow bottle what

2167
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: like the version of Silva, who was old but still

2168
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 2: kind of good, could still put a little bit together,

2169
01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 2: and that version could box Robert Whitaker. I would still

2170
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 2: favorite Robert, but I would be very very intrigued by that.

2171
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 2: I get that this version of Anderson kind of the

2172
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: roses off the balloon or whatever the expression is at

2173
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 2: this point. But I get that, I get that it's

2174
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: not the same, but I feel like it's a little

2175
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 2: bit of magic in that one, Danny, what about you?

2176
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got some of some of that middleweight

2177
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 3: some of that middlewaight history on the line a little

2178
01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 3: bit right.

2179
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 4: I like it obviously, you know, former middleweight champions and

2180
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 4: just if they would have been maybe if they would

2181
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 4: have lapped overlapped a year or two, they probably would

2182
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 4: have fought each other.

2183
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 3: But they were just right outside of it. But yeah,

2184
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 3: I like that fight. It's a fun one, all right.

2185
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: And then last, but not least for yours, go ahead

2186
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 2: this one.

2187
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 4: I dude, I I love matchmaking, so I probably in

2188
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 4: a past life I was a matchmaker.

2189
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 3: So I think this one was a good one. This

2190
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 3: is going to.

2191
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: Open up the card, Okay.

2192
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 3: Sebastian Fundora towering justin Gagee.

2193
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:37,719
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, oh at one fifty four. Yeah, dude,

2194
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 2: this is set this one up for the fans if

2195
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 2: they don't know who Sebastian Fundora is. Who is he?

2196
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 3: He's probably the tallest guy you can find at one

2197
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 3: fifty four. Uh, he's huge, but he looks like how

2198
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 3: old is he?

2199
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 4: He's young, right, but he looks young he's like twenty

2200
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 4: six or twenty seven.

2201
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's six foot five. He's taller than me.

2202
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's huge. Uh and he's like a tall guy.

2203
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 3: But he's weird. I really like his style. He's weird because.

2204
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 4: Like he'll he'll get in in close quarters, at medium range.

2205
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 4: He at long range as well, and he does well

2206
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 4: like in close quarters, which is weird. He's not afraid

2207
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 4: to get into wars. Very very very exciting fighter, also

2208
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 4: very technical as well. I really enjoy watching his fights

2209
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 4: and jostin gage you will. I don't have to sell

2210
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 4: him to you. He's a dog, so I think that'll

2211
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 4: be a stupid fight, all.

2212
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 2: Right, Last, but not least for me. I'm not making

2213
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 2: up anything new here. I didn't come up with a

2214
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 2: creative idea. It was an idea that kind of got

2215
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 2: circulated and shut down. But I gotta tell you, I

2216
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 2: don't hate it. I don't hate it. I don't know

2217
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 2: how much I love it, but I don't hate it.

2218
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 2: To open up, we wouldn't open up the card, but

2219
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 2: I just put it here. How about GSP versus Oscar

2220
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 2: de la Hoya. How about that? How about that I

2221
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:50,480
Speaker 2: watch a little item.

2222
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 3: You didn't let him fight. Yeah, he's back here.

2223
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 2: Well, they're saying he might wait out his contract, in

2224
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 2: which case we'll see what happens then. And we know

2225
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 2: Oscar v or he Yeah, he's a.

2226
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 3: Free agent now he is, but I mean, yeah.

2227
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 2: But at the time in which he wanted to make

2228
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 2: it, it was still under and now I don't know if

2229
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 2: there's any real interest in it, but at that moment

2230
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 2: in time, dude de la joya, did you see his

2231
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: purchased abs? Do you follow him on Instagram? Yeah? Yeah,

2232
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 2: I do.

2233
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's showing that off like if it was

2234
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 4: a Lamborghini. Bro, he's got on everything.

2235
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he shows.

2236
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 2: It off like he got paid by the surgeon to

2237
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 2: do that. You know what I mean? Like that's how

2238
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 2: often he's showing them off. But anyway, I mean, who knows.

2239
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 4: He could have gone a disc on a few Instagram posts, Hey,

2240
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 4: disc on on.

2241
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: The abs whatever, whatever reasoning behind it, he is, he

2242
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 2: loves to do it. But anyway, you know, uh, he

2243
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 2: one was too small for him. He could make obvious

2244
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: a little bigger. I'm sure he's older and yeah, he's

2245
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 2: in his fifties and how much I love that. But

2246
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: GSP's not a boxer, he's older himself. I think he's

2247
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 2: rounding forty or even past it at this point. You

2248
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 2: could make that one happen. That one's that one's doable

2249
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:56,600
Speaker 2: for me.

2250
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's a fun one. I'm gonna throw

2251
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 4: another one here, just an idea. I don't know if

2252
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 4: this might be a terrible one McGregor Bronner kind of

2253
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 4: like a realistic one.

2254
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

2255
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 2: That is well, Connor would never do it. Connor would

2256
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:24,879
Speaker 2: never do it, But if they somehow found a way. God,

2257
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 2: the Broner thing is like, what about like Nate Diaz

2258
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 2: versus or Nick Diaz versus Broner. You could do that.

2259
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 2: You could do that Broner is I don't even know

2260
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 2: what weight Broner's at anymore. Obviously he fought in the

2261
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 2: third in the in the thirties. I think, yeah, that

2262
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 2: would be hard. Maybe ni yea, God, you could do it,

2263
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: you could do it. That would do I don't even

2264
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,560
Speaker 2: know what to make of that, just like total weirdness

2265
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 2: the whole way through the whole way.

2266
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 3: If they book it, the fight probably doesn't happen, right.

2267
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Adrian might make it happen just so you

2268
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 2: get the payday, you know what I'm saying. For that

2269
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 2: reason alone, it might happen. But I know what you're saying, Like,

2270
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways in which those those two

2271
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 2: have complicated things before. Yeah, that'd be kind of fun.

2272
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 2: That's like the Broner thing is funny. Dude. He's gonna

2273
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 2: end up fighting an mm A fighter at some point, right,

2274
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 2: Like that's gonna happen.

2275
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah.

2276
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 4: I think he fits sort of that realm of I

2277
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 4: don't even know what to call it anymore, but whatever

2278
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 4: that realm is.

2279
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 2: Dude, How has BKFC not signed him yet? You think

2280
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 2: they've reached out to Broner?

2281
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but that's a that's

2282
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 3: a good one.

2283
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 4: I think he fits that mold right, Like he's obviously

2284
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 4: got a name, he's a personality. I think there's still

2285
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 4: interest around him. Not really a top guy anymore, I.

2286
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 3: Think, yeah. I think because he's a good good, uh

2287
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 3: good avenue for him.

2288
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Well, the Broner one, he could that the Broner versus

2289
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 2: an MMA fighter. You have to get the right mm

2290
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 2: A fighter, but that could work, actually.

2291
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 3: Like it, Uh by the way, you want to hear him.

2292
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,919
Speaker 3: Hold on, say again, I got two post limbs.

2293
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 2: Oh, let me hear it. Let me hear your post limbs.

2294
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 4: BC's black liver versus gas station hot dog with cheese

2295
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 4: in it. I have a feeling that BC that liver.

2296
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 4: I know he complains about it and whatnot, but I

2297
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 4: have a feeling it can still digest a few processed

2298
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 4: foods and vegetable and canola oils and and maybe other

2299
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 4: ill advice chemicals in there. I still feel like he

2300
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 4: he can, you know.

2301
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 3: And then the other one, Yeah, it'll be It'll be

2302
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 3: an even contest, right uh. And then the other one

2303
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:41,640
Speaker 3: l T.

2304
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 4: Versus Margarita's man I want to see. I want to

2305
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 4: see number two. I want to see them.

2306
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 2: I got I got pounded out last time. Yeah, I

2307
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 2: don't like.

2308
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 3: I feel like they're not not to make excuses for you.

2309
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 4: But you probably didn't sleep right, you probably weren't hydrated,

2310
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 4: you didn't have food like you know, much more prepared

2311
01:44:58,560 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 4: l s.

2312
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know you do just fine, dude.

2313
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 2: When we work together, I drank almost every night.

2314
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 3: I know, I know.

2315
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm witness to what you can do. So I

2316
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 4: got faith in you in the rematch.

2317
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks, I just stopped drinking because it's terrible. For

2318
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 2: how old are you now, Danny? Thirty? I am thirty thirty, Yeah,

2319
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: you still got a lot of time left. At thirty,

2320
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,679
Speaker 2: I can still drink my ass off, But at forty

2321
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 2: three now it's it's not.

2322
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 3: I've slowed down. I'm more selective now.

2323
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm look at it. I'm like a washed fighter.

2324
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 2: I just can't take a punch anymore, you know what

2325
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 2: I mean? Like when shot, I go, well, not even that,

2326
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:36,600
Speaker 2: like I can have I mean I can have fourish

2327
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 2: and probably be okay, but you start getting into five

2328
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 2: or if any of those are long island iced teas,

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: and dude, it's just the hangover last forever. Yeah. You know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like shit the whole time, Like I just

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Speaker 2: can't bounce back like I used to. I just can't

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Speaker 2: take a shot, can't take a shot.

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to feel it in my thirty So.

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Speaker 2: Okay, shut the fuck up, Shut the fuck up. You

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Speaker 2: can do that, right, Danny. If folks want more of

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Speaker 2: your work or they want to follow you on social,

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Speaker 2: what do they do? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: All my English work is on mme Junkie that Ryan

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Speaker 4: Hall interview if you want to watch it and full.

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Speaker 4: We talked about scoring, we talked about der Us versus Olivera,

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01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 4: we talked a bunch of different things. You can check

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Speaker 4: out that interview on MMA Junkie as well as all

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Speaker 4: the work that I do as well as my talented

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Speaker 4: colleagues in Spanish Lemos MMA. I also do bi lingual content,

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Speaker 4: so if you want interviews podcast analysis in Spanish, you

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Speaker 4: can head over to our Lemos m man. If you

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Speaker 4: want to follow me in social at Danny Segura TV

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Speaker 4: on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, so the follow.

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Speaker 2: You Danny there, you go follow Danny Danny. Hopefully I

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Speaker 2: get a chance to see you next week. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but we'll try and make that work. In Miami. You

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Speaker 2: are officially mister three h five on this show if

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Speaker 2: nowhere else, but it matters in our hearts, so I

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Speaker 2: hope you know that. Okay, Thank you appreciate that there

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Speaker 2: is and thank you to MMA Junkie for obviously let

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Speaker 2: you come over here because I know you've got a

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Speaker 2: busy schedule. So thanks everyone over there that made that happen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for stopping in BC. Will be back on uh,

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Speaker 2: whenever the fuck he's back. I'm not really sure, but

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Speaker 2: we'll figure that out. So for Danny, for BC, for Malka,

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Speaker 2: for Mikey Morms, our intrepid producer here on the Ones,

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Speaker 2: and two CBS Sports and everyone else involved, Thank you

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Speaker 2: guys so much for watching. Enjoy the weekend. We're back

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Speaker 2: on Monday, and until then, may all of your gains

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Speaker 2: be loyal