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Speaker 1: These one Bill's Live presented by called Light a Health.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we are on a Thursday, motoring our

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Speaker 1: way through the week as we prepare for a week

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Speaker 1: five bills Steelers jam pack show for you today. Plenty

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Speaker 1: of going on, Steve, But I gotta tell you, do

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Speaker 1: you ever have a leg cramp serve as your alarm

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Speaker 1: wake up. Holy mackerel. At my left calf, I'm also

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Speaker 1: your calf, yeah, like like a wing like a ninja

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Speaker 1: in the night, just completely seized up. Somebody tightened the

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Speaker 1: old c clamp around high ale. Holy cow, that is awesome.

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Speaker 1: I just pot like I basically folded my body into

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Speaker 1: and I'm pulling on my toe and it took like

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Speaker 1: the longest one I had that happened to me. I

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Speaker 1: was playing in a high school football game and my

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Speaker 1: calf cramped up and I and it was bad, right

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't I didn't really want a kid like

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Speaker 1: like that. And the coach come and this was, you know,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, late seventies, right, Yeah, And I go out

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Speaker 1: to my calf I cramp, Like I go pull my

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Speaker 1: toe and push on my heel, you know, like pull. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he did it back works, which makes it worse.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at him like, dude, he's like killing me.

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Speaker 1: He's like what, I'm like the other way? More on.

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Speaker 1: You can't say that to your coach, right, you idiot? Right?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a bad way to wake up though. The cramp

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Speaker 1: the worst ones because when you play, like playing soccer games,

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Speaker 1: which you're like ninety minutes sometimes one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: if you go to full overtime, and if you're a starter,

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Speaker 1: of water even if you pound it at halftime. So,

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Speaker 1: but the worst one I've ever had was in a pool.

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Speaker 1: I'm swimming in the deep end. Listen to this. So

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Speaker 1: I'm swimming in the deep end of a pool. I'm

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Speaker 1: Both of my hamstrings at the same time. Like when

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Speaker 1: I'm in a pool in ten feet of water and

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Speaker 1: So now I'm just like I'm like swimming with two

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. It was bad, but uh yeah, that

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Speaker 1: I'm to the point now I get those as well.

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Speaker 1: If I'm in if I'm in bed, I'm at the

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Speaker 1: point now where I just I ride it out. You

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Speaker 1: time I hate him. Yeah, well here's the thing. You

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Speaker 1: we usually come in early and do bills by the numbers.

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Speaker 1: a that's right, a little respite, a little rest spite. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's right, well done. Yeah, but I'm totally with you.

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Speaker 1: It's the worst way to wake up is involuntaries awful

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Speaker 1: was annoying. But enough about me. We've got Bill Steelers

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Speaker 1: it with. Today. About a half hour from now, we've

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Speaker 1: got our good friend Field Yates, ESPN Fantasy football guru

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Speaker 1: with his ultimate fantasy lineup for Week five, So we'll

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Speaker 1: run through that with him in about twenty five minutes time,

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Speaker 1: and then just before the second hour of the program

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Speaker 1: in about forty five minutes, we'll be joined by NFL

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Speaker 1: on CBS sideline reporter Tracy Wolfson. We'll be here doing

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Speaker 1: the game with Jim Nanson Tony Romo on Sunday Bill Steelers,

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Speaker 1: then second hour of the show about an hour from now,

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Speaker 1: we'll get his thoughts on last week's game, what he

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Speaker 1: thinks about Bill Stillers. Is it me or the team games?

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Speaker 1: It's easier to find for Jay to find guests. When

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Speaker 1: the team is has taken names, it helps. Right. Let

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Speaker 1: me just say this. I had to get like twelve

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Speaker 1: The family is coming in today late in the show.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna come in and watch the look at the studio.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give him a little tour. You know. You

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Speaker 1: think they do that if it was you know, if

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Speaker 1: They're not coming to sing. We're going, by the way,

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Speaker 1: my brothers are older than I am. Yes, we're going.

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Speaker 1: You're the youngest of three or four, youngest of four

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Speaker 1: or four. We're going through cigars at my house like

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Speaker 1: like a tree grinder like a would I had to

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Speaker 1: order more cigars? All right? You know that's just the

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Speaker 1: have you've got people coming in for games this year?

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Speaker 1: Which game is the most popular one for you? Um? Well,

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Speaker 1: Um My niece and nephew who live in South Carolina though,

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Speaker 1: my gosh. How do you get off like that? Do

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland game twenty six? Well that's twenty six, Steve,

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Speaker 1: that's the cross. You've got a bear. I hate to

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Speaker 1: When you're Steve Tasker, you have to come up with

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Speaker 1: twenty six seconds. Listen. It's a blessing. I'll say this

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Speaker 1: The curse is that all twenty six of them are

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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. But you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: visit like this. When I was playing everybody's everys that

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Speaker 1: come on twenty six tickets, Well, okay, it's it's awesome them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it's it's gonna be great. But I might

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Speaker 1: I might take a day that, yeah, I might take it.

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Speaker 1: I might take a personal day because they Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: they eat into your reserves cigars notwithstanding I h yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to see this team play. They got a

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Speaker 1: game on Thursday Thanksgiving, and they got a game the

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Speaker 1: next Thursday. This year. Yeah, they got all these primetime

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Speaker 1: of the last three weeks. That very encourage. Though I

422
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Speaker 1: was ankle I'm sorry did I say ankles? And sorry?

423
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you and I knew and I've been

424
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: there and players talk about it. It's a common occurrence

425
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: in the league where you just you're playing with this

426
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: injury and you just gotta play with it and you

427
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: drag it around for ye it's not two games or three,

428
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, two full weeks. And I think the Bills

429
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: have been really sensitive to these players who do that

430
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: and say, listen, take a day off, you know, take

431
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: this day off, take that day off, have a limited day.

432
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Speaker 1: Just aggravated it last week. He slipped on the turf.

433
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Speaker 1: It was wet and he slipped, and he kind of

434
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Speaker 1: aggravated it. Had to sit out Thursday last week because

435
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Speaker 1: of it. Still played last week and it's not like

436
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: he's not logging a lot of play. He played eighty

437
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: eight plays in Miami. My god, that was the first

438
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Speaker 1: week after the injury, right, So I'm thinking it's been

439
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: two full weeks now, Yeah, but he's at playing is

440
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: gonna be three and he's gone ahead and played on it.

441
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Speaker 1: But to see him practicing on it, that's big. That

442
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: is big, because especially full go. Yeah, So if he's

443
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Speaker 1: full go again today, I feel really good about him

444
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: finally looking like himself again, you know what I mean.

445
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Speaker 1: So that's encouraging. We haven't got any word about it official,

446
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: but he's listed as a full participant yesterday. Except except

447
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Speaker 1: that in the week's coming up to this, we didn't

448
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Speaker 1: think he looked like himself on the league the team

449
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Speaker 1: didn't say anything like that, but we're thinking, like, he

450
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: just doesn't look right. Yeah, and he's been on the

451
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Speaker 1: injury report, so I don't think it's out of outlandish

452
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Speaker 1: to say, yeah, he doesn't quite look like himself. I

453
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Speaker 1: think he would agree in any event. The other good

454
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: news is it looks like the defensive interior may finally

455
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: be getting healthy again after the Week one injury to

456
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Speaker 1: d Oliver in the Week two injury to Jordan Phillips

457
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Speaker 1: which really left them shorthanded, and Tim Settle for that matter.

458
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Speaker 1: Settles were back in the lineup the last two games.

459
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Speaker 1: Um but or actually sorry, it's just this last game,

460
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Speaker 1: but Ed Oliver and Jordan Phillips back out there practicing

461
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Speaker 1: for a second straight day. They were limited yesterday. We'll

462
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Speaker 1: see what their designation is today. Would you get those

463
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Speaker 1: two guys back? Now you're rolling? Yeah, now you're rolling.

464
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: It's really gonna make it difficult for the for the

465
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Speaker 1: Steelers to run the football even when they picked their spots,

466
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Speaker 1: if they got guys they want, you know, like and

467
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this as a but they know who's

468
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Speaker 1: on the field and if they think they can run

469
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Speaker 1: against C. J. Brewer and whoever else is out there

470
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: or you know, then they find that out. But if

471
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Speaker 1: if Tim Settle is rotating in with Dea Kwon Jones

472
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Speaker 1: and Oliver and Jordan Phillips is like, it don't matter,

473
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: don't don't run between the guards when you know today,

474
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Speaker 1: So that's big and Phillips he brings some juice. He

475
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Speaker 1: brings more than just a big body who can really

476
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Speaker 1: really go. He brings some attitude and some energy and

477
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: you gotta love him for it. So that makes a difference.

478
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Speaker 1: It's encouraging. So we'll see what the designation is when

479
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: the Thursday injury report comes out later today, whether they

480
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: were still limited participants or maybe bumped it up to full.

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Speaker 1: We gotta take a break here because when we come back,

482
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Speaker 1: we've got ESPN Fantasy Football guru Field Yates with his

483
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Speaker 1: ultimate fantasy lineup, presented by fan Duel. We'll see just

484
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Speaker 1: what it is for Week five when we return here.

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Speaker 1: On one Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health. It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. It

487
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Speaker 1: is time for the Ultimate Fantasy Lineup with our good

488
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Speaker 1: friend Field Yates from ESPN, presented by Hi FanDuel Make

489
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Speaker 1: every moment more. It's already week five, Field, How do

490
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Speaker 1: we get here already? It's a great question, Brownie. I

491
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: don't know where the time goes. I always say that

492
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: there are weeks during the offseason that feel like months,

493
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Speaker 1: and then there are months during the season that feel

494
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Speaker 1: like weeks. But here we are. The calendar is already

495
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Speaker 1: into October. It's week five. We're not quite a playoff

496
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Speaker 1: clinching scenario time of the year, but it feels like

497
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Speaker 1: it is flying by. And it also feels like the

498
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Speaker 1: time of year where you finally get an idea of

499
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Speaker 1: a handle on. All right, this guy's really going to

500
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Speaker 1: have a good year. This you know who the teams are.

501
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: It's not just projecting last year onto this year. And

502
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: you start out this on your fantasy lineup today. I

503
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: don't know that Jalen Hurts would have been at the

504
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Speaker 1: top of a list early on in the season or

505
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: before season, but man, you're right. He is now. He

506
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: has been incredible so far for the Eagles, the loan

507
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: remaining undefeated team, of course, and his price this week

508
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: is eighty six hundreds, which is just fine by me.

509
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all about the legs right now. For

510
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurds, who last season in fifteen games, had thirty

511
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: three designed runs, he has at least five designed rushing

512
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: attempts in every game this season. His total is twenty

513
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: six through four games. And quarterbacks that can run make

514
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: a major impact in fantasy. He's obviously a vastly improved thrower,

515
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: and you kind of want as much of this game

516
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: as you can get in your daily fantasy lineups. The

517
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: overunder is hovering around fifty points. That's a big number

518
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Speaker 1: any week. We expect this Eagles Cardinals game to be

519
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: a high scoring affair. HARISONA is like twenty eighth and

520
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: points allowed, so I mean they should be able to

521
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: run it up there, literally and figuratively. Running backs, you're

522
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Speaker 1: going with a guy that was popular in the pre

523
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: draft run up to fantasy leagues who's finally showing out now.

524
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: And then your bar I'm interested in you your Dolphins

525
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: pick year maybe more than anything Pierce. I understand most

526
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: I need an explanation their field. So over the past

527
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: few weeks for he most, it's become the starter in

528
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Miami and Chase Edmunds got the real money this offseason

529
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: two years and thirteen million bucks, and he's been poor

530
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: as a runner, to be candid, and where he's been

531
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Speaker 1: a solid runner for a few years now. He had

532
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: that breakout season in San Francisco. He got hurt a

533
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: year after that and ended up in free agency and

534
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: he got a one year deal from Miami, and he's

535
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Speaker 1: familiar with the system and when he's gotten opportunities of late,

536
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Speaker 1: he's been far more effective on a per rush basis

537
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Speaker 1: than we have seen out of Chase Edmonds. And he

538
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: had fifteen carries last week. Edmunds had a total of

539
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: five each had three targets. You know, I think Miami,

540
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: because of their receivers, will still want to throw the

541
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: football a good amount. But anytime you're down to your

542
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, it always brings up the possibility of leading

543
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Speaker 1: a bit more on the running game, especially against a

544
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Speaker 1: Jets offense. And I don't think it's going to put

545
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: up thirty or thirty five points, So that's where the

546
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: Raheem most at love comes from. And then Damian Pierce

547
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: had one hundred percent of the running back rushing attempts

548
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Speaker 1: last week for the Houston Texans. He's got twenty plus

549
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: touches and consecutive games the preseason hype has turned into

550
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: regular season production. Seventy five hundred bucks feels like the

551
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: exact right place there for Damian Pierce against the Jaguars.

552
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Speaker 1: And then you get into the big guys, the AJ

553
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Speaker 1: Browns and the Marquise Browns, Drake London, the wide receiver crew.

554
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Speaker 1: This is I mean, yeah, go down these matchups because

555
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: you're right, the Philly Arizona game is big this week. Yeah.

556
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, I wanted as much of that

557
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Speaker 1: Philly Arizona game as I can get. And I'm gonna

558
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Speaker 1: start with two receivers in that game. AJ Brown and

559
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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown. I don't know if they're related, but they

560
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: share the same last name and they share a similar price.

561
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Speaker 1: AJ Price at eight thousand, Hollywood Brown price at seventy

562
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Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars, and a J. Brown's currently third the

563
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Speaker 1: NFL in receiving yards at four hundred and five. He

564
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Speaker 1: has thirty six point one percent of Philadelphia's total receiving yards.

565
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Speaker 1: So you're building a stack here between A. J. Brown

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Speaker 1: and his quarterback and Jalen Hurts. If you look at

567
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: the number one playmaker against Arizona this season, they haven't

568
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: really had an answer. Christian McCaffrey scored, Cooper Cup scored,

569
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams scored, Darren Waller also scored. Travis Kelsey scored

570
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: away back in week one, they haven't slowed down Number

571
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Speaker 1: one's I like that changes this week moved forward to

572
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, who's got three straight games with over ten targets.

573
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: Remember still know DeAndre Hopkins for at least for two

574
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: more weeks, and last week we saw him get the

575
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: big plays rolling a little bit. Perhaps it was because

576
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: of the matchup, perhaps it was just randomness, but he

577
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: had three deep catches to find his twenty plus yards

578
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: or longer. He had just two of those in the

579
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: first three weeks of the season. So volume is good,

580
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: exposed to play is good. And then finally Drake Lendon.

581
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: I know that Bucks defense on paper seems like it

582
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: could be pretty good. But remember now we have the Falcons,

583
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: who may not have Kyle Pitts on Sunday. Sounds like

584
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: he's very iffy with back to back misspractices yesterday and

585
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: today with a hamstring injury. Drake Clugan is a thirty

586
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: four percent target share. That Trail's only Cooper Cup so

587
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: far this season. And if you're going to attack the Bucks,

588
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: contrary what we saw last Sunday night by the Chiefs,

589
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to do so through the air, not

590
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: on the ground, Like that's how Atlanta has their best

591
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: success on Sunday. And you mentioned Kyle Pitts being banged up.

592
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of tight ends are dealing

593
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: with injuries around the league. How much did that impact

594
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: your pick here or will you just go on bargain basement? Yeah,

595
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: I would say Brownie that it's hard to find too

596
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: many tight ends that are worth the price other than

597
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and Travis Kelt's top of the board. So

598
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: with Evan Ingram, who's priced at forty nine hundred dollars

599
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: and that's outside the top fifteen at the position. So

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Speaker 1: here's the good news is that he's running route on

601
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: seventy eight percent of the Jacksonville dropbacks. That's fifth best

602
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: amongst all tight ends. So while other tight ends are

603
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: called upon to block Moore, Evan Ingram is basically the

604
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: kind of guy that's being paid up to ten million

605
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: dollars this year to catch passes. You figure this Houston

606
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: defense is one that Jacksonville can move the ball against,

607
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: comes off of a game in which they were I

608
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: would say, largely contained by Philadelphia's very good defense. So

609
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram at forty nine hundred dollars is my tight

610
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: end pick. And then the course the flex position, Chris

611
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Olav versus Seattle, the Saints going or Seattle maybe not

612
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas R. Yes, exactly. Yeah, So you're getting a

613
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: bit of the hedge that Michael Thomas does not play.

614
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: And what you have in Chris Olava is not just

615
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: a player that's doing really good things when the ball

616
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: actually gets to him, but he's doing something important that

617
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: is happening when he's not getting the ball. He's got

618
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: two hundred and five more air yards than any other

619
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL. That's forty five percent more than

620
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: second place. And air yards are defined as how far

621
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: you're running or how far the targets go, even if

622
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: you don't actually catch the target, or if it is

623
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: off target, So translated into fantasy goodness is he's a

624
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: big play weapon. He may have three or four shots

625
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: down the field per game, and Seattle's secondary is just

626
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: a big play waiting to happen. As we saw last

627
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: week forty five points allowed to Jared Goff in that

628
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: Detroit offense. It's been like that basically every single week.

629
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks can't really cover anyone right now, and I think

630
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: that Chris Olave, especially if he has jam and Jamis Winston,

631
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: who's unafraid to chuck that thing down the field, should

632
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: have a big Sunday against the Seats. Another group that

633
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: should have a big week is the team you picked

634
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: for defense, because this Ram's offensive line is all beat up.

635
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: They looked lousy against the number one defense in the

636
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: league in San Francisco last week. I don't expect it

637
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: to get better dance this front. I'm with you. It's

638
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: just forty one hundred dollars that the Cowboys are going

639
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: to cost you this week. And you know, for fantasy defenses,

640
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: they're kind of looking for two things, pressure and turnovers,

641
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are about as good as it gets

642
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: right now in terms of generating pressure. And as far

643
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: as turnovers go, very good in that capacity as well.

644
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs has not yet translated all his pbused into

645
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: interceptions like he did for the first seven games of

646
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: last year, but he has gotten his hands on a

647
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: bunch of balls again so far this year. I think

648
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: he leads the NFL with eight pass breakups already this year,

649
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: so you got to figure a couple of those pass

650
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: breakups on occasion will turn into interceptions. I know that

651
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's a very good quarterback, but he once again

652
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: leads the NFL interceptions after tying with Trevor Lawrence for

653
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: the most last season. He's got six already this year.

654
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: So turnovers and sacks or a possibility for this Dallas defense,

655
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: which is why I liked them in my lineup this week. Well,

656
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: as we lament the quick passing of the season, we're

657
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: already in Week five and it seems like we're rolling downhill.

658
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Not much in not much enticement in tonight's matchup Indianapolis

659
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: at Denver, Right, I mean, these are two teams that

660
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: we're taking. You're taking flyers on backs because both of

661
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: them were without their starters. You know, no Jonathan Taylor William. Yeah,

662
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: there might be some guys coming off the bench in

663
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: this game, right for for TV. The MLB postseason starts tomorrow. Right,

664
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: you've got a picture duel on our on our hands

665
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: tonight potentially right right, Yeah, game that could be more

666
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: like twenty one seventeen as opposed to thirty eight thirty

667
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: five is how I would potentially size this one up.

668
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Could be thirteen ten two. Yeah, Field, thanks, thanks as

669
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: always for your Week five insight. We appreciate it, and

670
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you for week six, looking forward

671
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: to I already, gentlemen, talk to you soon. Thanks. That's

672
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Field Yates from ESPN. You're fantasy football guru with his

673
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: ultimate fantasy lineup presented by fan Duel make every moment more.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. When we return, Steve,

675
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a little NFL on CBS action rolling

676
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: your way. Man. There you go. We'll have NFL on

677
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: CBS sideline reporter Tracy Wolfson, who's going to be here

678
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: on Sunday at him Mark Stadium patrolling the sidelines as

679
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: part of the broadcast team with Jim Nance and Tony Romo,

680
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: will get her thoughts on this week five tilt between

681
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Steelers. Next, welcome back to One

682
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as always,

683
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: and please to be joined now by someone who will

684
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: be patrolling the sidelines on Sunday when the Bills and

685
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Steelers square off doing the game on CBS. It's NFL

686
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: on CBS sideline Reporter Tracy Wilson will be here with

687
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: Jim Nance and Tony Romo. Tracy, thanks for joining us.

688
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: Gotta be happy when you see Buffalo in early to

689
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: mid October on the schedule. I am, I am. How

690
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: are we looking in terms of weather on Sunday? Pretty good?

691
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: High fifties, you know, the trees are already turning fifties,

692
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: calm and sunny. It should be absolutely spectacular. The trees

693
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: are starting to turn. It's gonna be It's gonna be great, Tracy,

694
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. I trust it. I can't wait.

695
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: Trust I can't wait. I'm so excited to get back

696
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: to buff What is the what is the CBS point

697
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: of view about this game? Yeah, I mean I think

698
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: we see what everyone else sees, right, I mean, fourteen

699
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: point underdogs for Steelers coming in on the road in

700
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: a tough environment with a rookie quarterback. But I kind

701
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: of like, after reading a lot about Kenny Pickett and

702
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: watching some of him, I love his moxie. I love

703
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: his attitude. I love his confidence. He's been in the

704
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: position before, granted it was college, but made his first

705
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: start against number two undefeated Miami when he was with

706
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and one and won that game. And so I

707
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna I think he's going to come

708
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: in you know where and ago trying to prove something.

709
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: I just don't know if the if Pittsburgh has enough pieces.

710
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly we're seeing a lot of injuries on

711
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball for both teams, so I

712
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: think that's going to play into it a little bit too.

713
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: But certainly a tough environment, as we all know, playing

714
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: in buffalout. I don't know that you. I don't know

715
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: that you've done a Pittsburgh game this year. I don't

716
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: think you have correct. Nope, no have not. The thing

717
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: we have heard is exactly what you said about Kenny Pickett.

718
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: He seems to not only is a good football player,

719
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: no question, but he seems to have some sort of

720
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: it fact or some some charisma that when he steps

721
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: into the huddle, they're they're playing hard for a young

722
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: guy who hasn't really done anything in the league yet,

723
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: but he does have some sort of it factor that

724
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: has made him quite attractive to Pittsburgh fans and you know,

725
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: kind of invigorated a roster that doesn't that needed to

726
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: be invigorated. Is that the take you get as well? Yeah,

727
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: I totally believe that. I mean, I think it was interesting.

728
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: You know, last week he ha you know, zero reps

729
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: with the first team and then he's getting thrown out

730
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: there against the Jets. So now he's going to have

731
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: a week of practice with that first team. It seems

732
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: like you can tell from everything we've read, and we're

733
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: going to get a chance to talk to Pittsburgh and

734
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada, who has

735
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: history would Pickett? You know that they believe in him,

736
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know if they wanted it

737
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: to go to this point, you know, if they wanted

738
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: to throw him in there after a bad half by

739
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: Trabisky or I guess a bad four and a half games,

740
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: But I think you know what they're really looking for

741
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: is a spark is That's what they've said, and I

742
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: think he could provide that if anything else. They certainly

743
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: needed to change something up get something going. I thought

744
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting stats I read is that

745
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: they have not had a touchdown from the wide receiver

746
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: position yet this season, which is pretty incredible to think.

747
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: And they certainly do have talent on that side of

748
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: the ball. So well, we'll see how this offense changes.

749
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: I know you're always looking for actions between the two

750
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: teams in your role, Tracy, and we heard Kenny mentioned

751
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: in his press conference yesterday. He was very quick to

752
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: reference his two former college teammates who are going to

753
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: be going against him on the defensive side of the

754
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: ball in Dane Jackson and Damar Hamlin. So who's got

755
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: the edge there? They know, they know him, he knows them.

756
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see that play out in

757
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: the passing game. Yeah, I mean, I don't think we

758
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: know until we get out there, certainly. But of course

759
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: they're going to be sharing information with Buffalo and he's

760
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: going to be sharing information with Pittsburgh. That's just how

761
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: it is. I think the other ironic thing is Ze

762
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: Trabisky was going to be playing against Buffalo and then

763
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: gets that kind of taken away from him. I know

764
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: we really wanted that opportunity. And my thought process is

765
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: he just gets venched. You know, is he going to

766
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: be sharing the information like how readily available? Is he

767
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: going to make that or is he just going to

768
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: be that great team player. I'm sure he'll be a

769
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: great team player. But still there are many ties, as

770
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: you said, between these two teams, and how do you

771
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: expect this to Pittsburgh never goes into a game point

772
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: double digit underdogs. It's the ultimate trump card for Mike

773
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Tomlin to play to a roster that you know they've

774
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: been up against. It. Absolutely, he's gonna say that and

775
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: they're going to use that to their advantage. But this

776
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: is also a Bills team that's at home on a

777
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: one o'clock on a beautiful day, and they can sling

778
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: it around. This is a game that really Kenny Pikett,

779
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you pick a spot that's hard to get

780
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: thrown into, this is it? Yeah? And I think you

781
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: know Buffalo is ready to get kind of back to

782
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: that dominating football we saw the first two weeks of

783
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: the season, and certainly last week in Baltimore and terrible

784
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: conditions to start that game. Was not what they wanted,

785
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: but you know, to come back and win it says

786
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: something about this team. I mean I said it from

787
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: the beginning. You know, they're a really difficult, difficult team

788
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: to beat. You know, from Josh Allen to this defense.

789
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them run the ball a little

790
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: bit more. Not with Josh Allen because it's a long season.

791
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: You want him to stay healthy. But I do think,

792
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Bills are just really a tough team

793
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: to beat to begin with, and as you mentioned, on

794
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: the road, with a rookie quarterback, very banged up on

795
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: their defensive side of the ball. I mean, if you

796
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: look at their their injuries right now, they could be

797
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: without their top four starters in the secondary. That's a

798
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: lot of trouble going against Josh Allen Stefon Diggs in

799
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: this offense. Yeah, and the Bills have experienced then too,

800
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: as you know, Tracy, which kind of makes me a

801
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: little curious. You know, we suffer from Bill's myopia here.

802
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: And after the Dolphins loss and all of the injuries

803
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: that the team had sustained at that point, there was

804
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: a natural curiosity here as to whether or not the

805
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: luster had kind of come off or the bloom had

806
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: come off the rows on the Bills going into the season.

807
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: What is kind of the national perspective on this team after,

808
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, a very trying loss in Miami and a

809
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: nail biting win in Baltimore. I still think that they're

810
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: one of the top teams to beat in the AFC.

811
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't think that luster has gone off at all.

812
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: It's really difficult to go undefeated in this league. We

813
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: only have one team right now undefeated, and especially in

814
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: the AFC, and so I think the rhetoric out there

815
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: right now is they are the team to beat, along

816
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: with maybe Kansas City, and we're going to have that

817
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: game next week, that rematch that we can't wait for.

818
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: So if Buffalo can get through this one, if the

819
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs can get through their game, and we can wind

820
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: up playing that one out next week for still you know,

821
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: of course it's early in the season, but there's a

822
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: lot of kind of bragging rights as to who is

823
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse in the AFC. We certainly

824
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 1: are going to see that. So I think, like I said,

825
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: I think the opinion, the national opinion still is it's

826
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: really difficult to beat this Buffalo Bills team with josh Allen,

827
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs, all the weapons around, and certainly this defense

828
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: even not at one hundred percent, and you assume they

829
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: are going to get healthy. So I think it's a

830
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: tough out. You were on the sidelines for the Kansas

831
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: City Bills game, the playoff game last year that so

832
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: much was made about in the offseason. You know, the

833
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds and the game and the way it went,

834
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: and the and the incredible last five minutes of regulation

835
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: by both clubs offensively, and the clamor to change the

836
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: playoff rules because of games like that. I mean, it

837
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: was crazy. What now, when you sit down with Sean

838
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: McDermott and the coordinators, and you've probably had some conversations

839
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: with Brandon Bean as well, what do you how much

840
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: of a difference does the culture make for the how

841
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: the team? I mean, the attitude, the vibe around the team,

842
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: just that intangible stuff that Sean McDermott is obviously brought

843
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: to the Bills that makes them different. Is do you

844
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: see that on your side of the of the ledger

845
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: As you have meetings with these guys and walk around

846
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: and talk to the coaches and players I do. I mean,

847
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I say it all the time, whether I actually did

848
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: a speech for the University of Michigan for their team

849
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: as they went to kick off their season. And I

850
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: use the Bills as an example, and I use the

851
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs as an example, and teams that I stand on

852
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: the sideline and I watch these teams, you know, every

853
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: game for four hours, let's say, and I get to

854
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: talk to them as you mentioned, you know, in meetings,

855
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: and really get to know the players and coaches that

856
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: make up these teams. And you can tell when a

857
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: team has an IT factor, you really can, and it

858
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: certainly it stems from the head coach, and then it

859
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: goes on to the quarterback, and then it goes on

860
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: to these offenses and defenses and how they were and

861
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: special teams and how they work as a team. And

862
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: they're all selfless in their pursuit, but they're selfish as

863
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: a team in terms of wanting to win. And I

864
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: think you see that no doubt with the Buffalo Bills,

865
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: and it's why it's translated onto the field. Now, let

866
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: me tell you one other thing though, by the way,

867
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: going about that game. Right before that game, I said

868
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen, I said, you know you have this

869
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: wind streak when it comes to coin tosses, and I said,

870
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: you haven't lost one. And then he basically, if you

871
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: go back and look, he blamed me for losing that

872
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: coin toss and and well he should have. Well he

873
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: should have. You absolutely are responsible for that lost call.

874
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: Don't be that person again. Trace, What are you doing? Trace?

875
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: You should know better, You should know better. You of

876
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: all people, I think Bills fans are asking you, please,

877
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: don't be that person again. I don't know if we

878
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: could take that again. Broadcasting jinks. You know we heard

879
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: all the time, leaves me twenty four straight fields, yes,

880
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he misses it. But no,

881
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: I am keeping my mouth shut. Tracy travels safely. He's

882
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: great to say, we'll look for you this weekend. Thank you,

883
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate it all right. That's NFL on CBS

884
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: sideline reporter Tracy Wilson gonna do the Bills Steelers game

885
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: with Jim Nanson Tony Romo this weekend here at high

886
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: Mark Stadium. We'll take a break when we return. Second

887
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: hour of the show gets kicked off by a hall

888
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: of Famer Thurman Thomas coming in next here on One

889
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Klaid to health, It's Buffalo Bill's

890
00:48:21,520 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Radio These One Bill's Live presented by called Hell. All right,

891
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: here we are our number two and we're kicking it

892
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: off with Hall of Famer Therm and Thomas, who joins

893
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: us in his studio. Good to have your therm, He's

894
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: always yeah, and uh, I don't want to shoot it

895
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: right out of the gate here, but we know a

896
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: lot of times when you come to games you wear

897
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: a jersey of a current player. Yeah, a lot of

898
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: times you're doing that. What do you have you have

899
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: Josh on for the Monday night game? Is that right?

900
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: You had Josh Allen's jersey on. I think he had

901
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: seventeen if I remember right. Yeah, yeah, we're seventeen because

902
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: Bruce was doing forty. Okay, yeah, well yeah, Bruce is

903
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: always right. We know how that was what Bruce wants, right,

904
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: we know how that works. And I'm sure it's not

905
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: even his jersey. Just took it from somebody for another anyway, Um,

906
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: the players on this roster have kind of flipped flipped

907
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: the script on script on that. I don't know if

908
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: you saw this. I'm sure you heard about it on

909
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: social media if you didn't see it live. But Vaughan

910
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: at the game in Baltimore on Sunday with the Thurman

911
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: T shirt. Did you see this? I saw that? How

912
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: about that? Pretty nice there? Yeah? That was that was something.

913
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: And I talked to him a little bit before the

914
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: Tennessee game, okay, and just you know, introduced myself. Hey,

915
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: you know we're both from Texas, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

916
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: that's how we rolled like that. So introduced him myself

917
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: and my wife, and Danny comes back with this. I'm like,

918
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: that's pretty sweet that he had the remember the old

919
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: he had the old headband. Shot you had the white

920
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: headband that the bottom right there. Oh yeah, you know

921
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: when I first wore that. That was a no putt game,

922
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: oh San Francisco. Oh yeah, I mean that that was

923
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: the first half. That was the only game. You had

924
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: a great game. Yeah, but I don't know, I just

925
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: come on it. Apparently Herman's not stupid anti superstitiou. Yeah right,

926
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: I didn't really care about that. It was just kind

927
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: of a look, I saw somebody else to do it,

928
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: and I had no punk game. Yeah. Exacts are getting

929
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: that done a lot these days. Oh my god. So

930
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna be pretty cool, like yeah, yeah, and you

931
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: know him doing that in Baltimore last week. I had

932
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: on Mica high just for you know, purposes of that

933
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 1: and what he's going through, and jersey went well, so yeah,

934
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 1: so I do it every week. Um, I was gonna

935
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: come up with a different jersey. I got a different

936
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: jersey that I'm wearing this tell us. No, I'm not

937
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna tell you never, I never. I like the reveal. Yeah,

938
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Yeah, it's a big deal. So yeah,

939
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: actually I got I got him Therm. He's picking it

940
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: up now them. Yeah, yeah, because I couldn't. Yeah, come

941
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: here and talk to you. Have commitments, appreciate commitments. I

942
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: got a responsibility, right exactly? What about ahead, I was

943
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: just gonna say, you know, we seem to have a

944
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: weekly conversation with you Therm about the running game. Now

945
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: here was coach McDermott's assessment of it. He said on Wednesday,

946
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: just yesterday, it's improving in his estimation in terms of

947
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: the blocking assignments and execution. It's not where we need

948
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: it to be yet by any means. And then he

949
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: finished by saying, sometimes it just takes time. Took time

950
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: last year? What, Yeah, it did take time last year?

951
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: It did. It took ten weeks last year. How much.

952
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: I guess every year it's different in terms of when

953
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: it finally clicks in, Um, what do you make? I mean,

954
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: it's by your reaction you seem to accept that answer. Yeah,

955
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean I do. I mean we're I mean we're

956
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: right now. We're riding a hot hand of Josh out. Yeah,

957
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's where we're doing. I mean, and Josh

958
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: loves it up to this point. But I think you know,

959
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: we got thirteen more games ago, right, there's time. There's

960
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: time for it to do it as long as Josh

961
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: has the hot head now. Because Hey, as much as

962
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: I would love for him to go through the season

963
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: doing what he's doing, there's gonna be some games where

964
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: we're both gonna sit up here every Monday and talk

965
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: about what Josh weren't looking himself there? Well, look at

966
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, not that it was all his fault,

967
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: because I was watching receivers coach Chad Hall reaming out

968
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: his receiving corps on the sideline last week for route

969
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: running and God knows what else, but like I'm in

970
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: the press box, they're on the other sideline right, and

971
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: he is like he's got them all in a group there.

972
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: This was in the first half when things weren't going right.

973
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: People were dropping passes. Well, so I gotta, I gotta,

974
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: I have to stop you on that just for a

975
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: little bit, because on some of those passes, Josh were

976
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: throwing the ball rockets right and they were here from

977
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: the pole right there, and they had and it's hard

978
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: in the rain to try to adjust to that. You

979
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't think he would take something. But fall Steve talks

980
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: about this, and we saw more of this early in

981
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: Josh's career where he used to get so jacked up

982
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: for games. He come out the first two series and

983
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: he's throwing rocket balls and that. Steve, I don't know

984
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: about you, but we didn't even talk about that this week.

985
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: That's the first time I've seen that from Josh in

986
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: quite some time. And I think it was the whole

987
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: Josh Lamar thing. You know, I'm gonna outperform the this

988
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: MVP and block you know what I mean, Like, yeah, good,

989
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: some of that competitive fire in him, and I think

990
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: they had to peel him off from ceiling a little bit.

991
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: Maybe I gotta ask about the running game and how

992
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: do you think it was? We talked about a lot

993
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: of James cook Is coming in and he came in

994
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: and notoriously fumbled his first touch in the NFL. Didn't

995
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: get another God got he had. I don't know what

996
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 1: it was. It was that Miami game. Catches for thirty

997
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: seven yards against the Dolphins. Looked pretty good at the

998
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: end of it, right, So he got some some there.

999
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: Then he came in the other day and drops a

1000
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: pass and didn't see him. So head off the fielding.

1001
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: How is it? How do you feel about the way

1002
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott has always handled those guys who handled the

1003
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: ball a lot. If they start coughing up there, but

1004
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: they are they're they're also a loud message by you

1005
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: just sit down and be quiet. Yeah, it's you know,

1006
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: how do you feel there? I mean, and it's usually

1007
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: the running back, So I really hate he didn't do

1008
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: that day body else, Like a receiver drops a ball

1009
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: or that's what I can understay. If Stefan Dave dropped

1010
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: the ball, I mean, you don't pull him off for

1011
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: a couple of plays or whatever series does he in

1012
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: the end, I'll say this, Devin Singletary coughed one up,

1013
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: but he was back in well. I will say this

1014
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: about that. After the game, coach was asked specifically about

1015
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: Singletary's early game fumble, and he said those are tough

1016
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: to come back from. But I know Devin is a

1017
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: guy that knows how to reset his frame of mind

1018
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: and get back in the game. There is clearly history

1019
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: and a trust factor that McDermott has in Singletary that

1020
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: he can get back on the ball for lack of

1021
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: a better term, and just kind of get back into

1022
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: the flow of the game. Now that's not to say

1023
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have a history of fumbling. He does.

1024
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's true. I mean it's fact. Yeah. Um,

1025
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: But I thought that was an interesting response in light

1026
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: of what we've seen with some of the other backs.

1027
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: Whether you want to go back to Zach Moss in

1028
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: the game in Arizona when he coughs it up inside

1029
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: his twenty yard line, didn't see the field until like

1030
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth quarter, yea. To you know

1031
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: James Cook and what we've seen with him, yea, you know,

1032
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: Week one didn't see that he got three plays. Well,

1033
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: I tell you what that say, Sean has always done it.

1034
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh and he has a surprise, right, Yeah, it's no surprise.

1035
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean he's just you don't have to going to

1036
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: tolerate it. Yeah, he's like, you gotta expect it. Yeah,

1037
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: you gotta expect it. And uh hey, I mean what

1038
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: do you do? You try to uh, you know, you

1039
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: try to protect them all a little bit better. I

1040
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: mean that's all you can do. I know. After like

1041
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: look as a running back and you say, like you

1042
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: have a fumbl early in first carry of his career. Yeah,

1043
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's what I need to do right now

1044
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: to hold on this a little bit tighter than yeah,

1045
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: than I did always in the back of your mind,

1046
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: like if I did it like in the first quarter,

1047
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: the way I carried the ball and the way I

1048
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: used to do things kind of changes a little bit

1049
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: because I don't want to be in that situation. Yeah,

1050
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: you know, And so sometimes you tense up a little

1051
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: bit and like, all right, I'm not gonna make this.

1052
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to the ground. I remember, remember

1053
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: when Tiki Barber had all those fumbling problems, he changed

1054
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: the way he would run. Well, he carried it higher

1055
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: and kind of wedged it up into his chest pad almost,

1056
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: which is I mean, it's unconventional. He had a way

1057
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: up here. So if you had a chance to sit

1058
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: down with James Cook and you know he's trying to

1059
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: get on the field, I know what. What's your advice?

1060
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: My advice has been the last three weeks, well since

1061
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: he fumbled, yeah, in his first carry in an NFL game.

1062
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: I've been chatting with him ever since. Every since. I say,

1063
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: the next next best thing for you to do is

1064
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: come into early Monday, getting your work done, come practice,

1065
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, be out there on the football. Feel ready

1066
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: to go. Don't sit back in and just trying to Man,

1067
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: I can't believe I did it. Now, I'm always thinking

1068
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: about it. Now you go out and you play. I thought,

1069
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: what was it we caught that first pass? It might

1070
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: have been the second game against Miami. It was like

1071
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: a twelve or fifteen yard when he was playing outside

1072
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: playing wid yeah and line in my wife. I was like, Okay,

1073
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: that's what they need to do, and said, okay, try

1074
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: it that way instead of running the football, put him

1075
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: in more passing plays. Yeah, right, You and I talked

1076
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: about that. I remember after that Miami game when you

1077
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: came in, because I was talking to you about how

1078
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: he can feel. He's really good out in space, feeling

1079
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: defenders like he didn't even have the ball yet and

1080
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: he felt this defender over here. Yeah, and so as

1081
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: he catched. As he caught it, he made his first

1082
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: move to elude this guy or only give him a

1083
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: shot in an ankle instead of his whole body to

1084
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: tackle him. He gets away from that guy, he gets

1085
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: another eight or nine yards on the catch screens, draws

1086
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: getting the ball. That's right, And let's not forget this

1087
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: this week. You gotta beat up receiving corps. They haven't

1088
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: made a move yet on the roster. Like Kumero's got

1089
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: the high ankle, he's not practicing here. We know that

1090
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowd is not gonna be playing anytime soon. And Mackenzie, yeah,

1091
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: he's limited out there in practice today, but he's still

1092
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: in the protocol. You got three healthy guys. I know

1093
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: you got practice squad elevation, Steve, but get it. I

1094
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: get it. But here's the thing. You got the Steelers

1095
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: coming in here, and the shape that their team is

1096
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: in and the way they're playing football now with a

1097
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 1: new rookie quarterback. The only way or the best way

1098
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: that they're gonna beat the Buffalo Bills is turnovers. Yeah.

1099
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: And so if you think, if you think it was

1100
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: bad before, yeah, try coughing it up on the opening

1101
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: series against the Steelers this week. It'll be November. It's true.

1102
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: Turnovers is the thing that could cause this game to

1103
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: go awry for the Buffalo Bills. Um and the players

1104
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: need to just because it's a fourteen point underdog time. Mike,

1105
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: this is Mike Tomlin. That's his wheelhouse man, it's his wheelhoud.

1106
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: This is what you know what, even if they were

1107
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: talking about getting fired, this is his game right here.

1108
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: This is his playoff game right here. Yeah, to come

1109
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: in here and try to upset this in And it's

1110
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: interesting you mentioned turnover, Steve, because the Bills and the

1111
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: Steelers are tied for the league league right now with

1112
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: seven interceptions. Do mainly to Jordan player for the Bills

1113
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: and make a Fitzpatrick for the Steelers. Players got four

1114
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick Scott three, but both teams have seven takeaways. The

1115
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: problem is Pittsburgh secondaries and worse shape than hours yea

1116
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: four of their top five guys in their nickel package.

1117
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: You're all on the injury report yesterday. They didn't even

1118
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: practice what we talked about this before. Remember we were

1119
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: talking about the dink and dunk or this is an

1120
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: opportunity now to go deep because they don't have T J.

1121
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: Watt Then you might have a chance stand back yeah

1122
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: and let a couple of go yeah yeah. So this

1123
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: might this might be that week instead of the check

1124
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: down here, check down there, Which brings me to another conversation.

1125
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: Steve and I had this conversation on our podcast, Bills

1126
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: by the numbers this year thus far, especially in the

1127
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: first half of games, the Bills have traded in explosiveness

1128
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: in favor of efficiency. When they get to third down,

1129
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot more third and shorts, third and mediums,

1130
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: which are easier to convert, but it's taking them a

1131
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: lot more plays to get down there and score the ball,

1132
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: and in turn, that is giving them fewer possessions in

1133
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: the first half them. So I looked up some of

1134
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: the numbers they've had through the first four games last

1135
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: year in the first half, twenty eight total possessions. This

1136
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: year in the first half through the first four games

1137
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: twenty total possessions. So you say, ah, eight possessions. What's that?

1138
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: That's an average of two less possessions per half. That's

1139
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: two less opportunities to score point. What do you think

1140
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: of that? I mean, and part of it's how defense

1141
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: is playing, but just your thoughts on fewer opportunities to

1142
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: score the ball by going more efficient throwing. Yeah, yeah,

1143
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: I mean I would love to see more of the

1144
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 1: big play. Yeah well yeah, yeah, two plays thirty seconds touchdown. Yeah,

1145
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: that's what I would gave all was known for that.

1146
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: If they're between the forties, you know there's a shot

1147
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: play coming, right, Yes, it is. Yeah, you know what

1148
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean. If I think if you're looking at the

1149
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: National Football League so far this year, the first four weeks,

1150
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things out there. They're going the

1151
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: opposite way that they should be going. Yeah, most teams

1152
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: are running the football then have kind of the kind

1153
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: of the lesser quarterbacks, you know, not the guys that Yeah,

1154
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: but so I like the lea Ryan Tannehills of the world,

1155
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: right j Yeah, they're leading the league and rushing because

1156
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: their quarterback is not as good as some of the

1157
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we have up top so um, I get it.

1158
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: All the numbers are starting to change and go the

1159
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: opposite way. But as long as even if those attempts

1160
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: for the bill lare at twenty, Now, are they still

1161
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 1: scoring points? Yeah, which I think they are. They are there.

1162
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Last year, Yeah, they had an

1163
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: average lead at halftime of twelve points on average through

1164
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: the first four games, an average lead of twelve points. Now,

1165
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: granted you got Washington in there with Taylor Heinekey, Davis

1166
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: Mills in his first career start with Houston. There are

1167
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: some games, there are some games in there that skew

1168
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: it a little bit. But the point here is the

1169
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: advantage at halftime this year net points. It's zero. And

1170
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: let's not forget Rams ten ten, right and then not

1171
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: Miami Tennessee was the only game they had a lead.

1172
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: They were up fourteen a half, but then Miami no

1173
01:03:54,320 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: advantage there, and last week they're down ten. So it's

1174
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see where this goes. I know,

1175
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: but this efficiency over explosiveness, and again, part of it's

1176
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of high two cover shell You

1177
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: know that it's got to swing back right. Yeah, Well,

1178
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: here's the here's what you gotta know about all the

1179
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: analytics and the numbers and the percentages. What that stuff

1180
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: does is tell you who you're, who you are, who

1181
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: you could be at the moment, what you do good,

1182
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: what you do well. It has nothing to do what

1183
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: happens on Sunday. Because the Pittsburgh Steelers haven't played the

1184
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: Bills yet this year, it's a different roster. And if

1185
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: you find a statistic that will that will tell the future,

1186
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: then you got it. None of these statistics do. And

1187
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: I think the Bills offense is going to continue to

1188
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: evolve as Ken Dorsey gets more comfortable doing it and

1189
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: they find out more about it and their roster stops

1190
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: being a little bit of a topsy turvy injury filled mess. Yeah,

1191
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: so all that goes into the stew So this offense,

1192
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: I think is capable of doing any of the things

1193
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about. But it's hard for me not to

1194
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 1: think about that. Yeah, And I don't want to jump

1195
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: ahead here, but it's hard not to think about that

1196
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: and what it could mean when you face a team

1197
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, who just hung forty one on a

1198
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: top five defense in the Bucks last week. Yeah, you

1199
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, what these numbers y'all talking

1200
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: about and analytics and all that stuff. You know, don't

1201
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: sound like an old No. The only thing I'll remember

1202
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: about was last year they came in it opening week

1203
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: and beat the crap out of Yeah. That's enough, right

1204
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: the Steelers you're talking to, that's enough right there. To

1205
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: forget all these well they're five, couldn't stop there four? Yeah, Well,

1206
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: well this is a different year and two different year.

1207
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: You go back and look at all the things that

1208
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: happened over the course of the twenty twenty one season.

1209
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: You win that game and all of a sudden you're

1210
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: the one seed at the two seed, not the three seats. Um.

1211
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 1: It makes a big difference when he got teams coming

1212
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: in to see you rather than going to them, and

1213
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 1: we got we we got to that point where it

1214
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: was like week one of the season. Marks gonna listen, guys,

1215
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: we need these games to come through Buffalo in January.

1216
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: And you know there are a couple of years when

1217
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: we made it happen and it was different. This is

1218
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: made some difference. They may be a fourteen porter earn it,

1219
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: but this is a huge bill game for the builds

1220
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: because you know why I'm gonna tell you right now,

1221
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: I want third after the third quarters over. I want

1222
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: to be walking out of the stadium knowing that Josh

1223
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: Addison going to the sideline again with his baseball had.

1224
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: You're getting some guys some rest to come in for

1225
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: the KC game next week, and it looks like we

1226
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: should be pretty healthy coming into that game, which Phillips

1227
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: and Oliver maybe, I'm not sure, but if it's the

1228
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: one game that they should be waiting for and not overlooking,

1229
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: this one is Kansas City. Here's the problem. It is

1230
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: a big game for building, this important game, but it's

1231
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: also big huge game for the Steelers. Okay, and instead

1232
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: of that rookie, you can't you can't turn it over,

1233
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: Naji Harris probably turn in turn it over. No, I don't,

1234
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Bills will turn it over.

1235
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: It may turn over one, but whatever, I get it.

1236
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: If they got Huey, Dewey and Louis in the secondary

1237
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at their team, yeah, it's yeah, right away,

1238
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: the Bills should hit the ground full rev and go

1239
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: one hundred mile hour and then shift gears. Yeah they should.

1240
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: This is a game where if it goes the Bill's way,

1241
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: obviously they really should shift gears early in the third

1242
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: quarter and just put it away and said you could

1243
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: do You can see that scenario easily about put it

1244
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: away running the football. That's how you do. Yeah, and

1245
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: you do. And it's happening because because the Steelers not

1246
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: only are you know, starting a rookie quarterback, they're injured,

1247
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: they're hurt, and they're bad. They're hurt bad, and they're thin.

1248
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: So I'm worried about Canny pick Its health. I really am. Yeah,

1249
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: he'd be all right. He's gonna get the tar, right,

1250
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: they protect the top five. Listen, quarterback pressure. I'll do

1251
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: it again. I did it. I did it earlier in

1252
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: the year. I think I did it in Week one

1253
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: with with Matt Stafford, the guy that got hit on

1254
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: twenty two or forty one drop out. That's right, I

1255
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: said before the game, I was like Al Davis, their

1256
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: quarterback's gotta go down. He's gotta go down hard. I

1257
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: think he's going And we'll see because you can best

1258
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: this ain't like ain't like playing it pit. Yeah, it's

1259
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: in the ACCA. So we couldn't see another showing of

1260
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky. Oh yeah, we may see him after all

1261
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Speaker 1: about that, guys, you come on, you're you're like, yeah,

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01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna put their starting quarterback. Yet we're gonna score

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: fifty point Come on, man, pump the brakes. Man. That's

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01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good It's gonna be a better

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01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: game than that. I think you think so I do.

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna be a better game than that.

1267
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: The Bills are the better team, no question, but the

1268
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: Steelers are not gonna go away quietly. Okay, all right,

1269
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: we thought the same thing about the Titans. Oh there

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: you go, Brownie and Ryan. Well, let me just tell

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01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: you something. Let me tell you this. I did think

1272
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: that about Miami. Okay, so you're one for two. I

1273
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: thought they're I thought they're gonna be tell them what

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: tell me? I'm two and one? Oh yeah, you did

1275
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: close with Baltimore. But I felt that way. So let

1276
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: me tell you this, though. What did I say? I

1277
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: told you what I think about Miami sixty three? Nothing.

1278
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna beat him, Yes, that was.

1279
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna absolutely miss the market. Ste

1280
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: out of those guys. You missed that, Mark, I was dumb.

1281
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: That was that was? That was actually the one game

1282
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: I was worried about. Really, Yes, well, you know you

1283
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: knew their defense was good. Their defense is good, even

1284
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 1: though they can't really get a pass rush. It's bizarre. Um,

1285
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if it's a wonderful day when they

1286
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: come up to Buffalo in December, I'll take sixty three

1287
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: nothing again. Oh you will? Okay? Put that on the

1288
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: white poo. Did you erase it? Those going into the

1289
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: new concussion protocol coming out? Yeah, somebody was selling Yeah

1290
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: it's that he might need to hang it up for

1291
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: a year. Well, has been stuff out there about that now,

1292
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: And obviously I'm just gonna say this. We remember when

1293
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Cobb was here. Oh and I know he's most

1294
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: famously known for slipping on a mat at training camp.

1295
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: But third preseason game that summer, he gets kicked in

1296
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: the back of the head. He got taken down and

1297
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: one of the linemen came through and accidentally like kicked

1298
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 1: him in the back of the head. He got a concussion.

1299
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: He never played a game for the Bills and never

1300
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: played again. Yeah. It was like his fifth concussion in

1301
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: two years, and he was never He was not right

1302
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: for months, like eight to ten months because he had five.

1303
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: Another quarterback Tryn Edwards. Remember Tryn Edwards when he got

1304
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: his concussion in Arizona. Never the same after that. Yeah,

1305
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: so's there's serious stuff. Remember Al tuned for the Jets. Yeah,

1306
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: he had a lot of same things. It has happened

1307
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: when you have them in close proximity. That's when they

1308
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: really that's take it to a dark place and it's dangerous,

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: which is what happened to to h Yeah, because I

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01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody tells me. Guy, I had two

1311
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: and five days. Yeah, and I'm not a doctor. Yeah,

1312
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: and that does not pass the eye. First, because he

1313
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: got up and hobbled a run. If you watch that

1314
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: tape closely, so you know in the Cincinnati game when

1315
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: he had the frozen pose with his hands, if you

1316
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: watch that Miami game back, for a split second, he

1317
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: does the same thing. Just for a second. He goes

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01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: to grab his helmet, he freezes, he doesn't actually grab it.

1319
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: I think it's because he had the freeze thing. Again,

1320
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: it was a lot shorter period of time. I think

1321
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: after he had the freezing went like this afterwards. Yes, yes,

1322
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: but he had the it was very slight, but for

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01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: a split second he froze couldn't grab his helmet because

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: he was trying to. You don't have to you have

1325
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: to convinced any of any of our listeners that Tent

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01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: had a concussion, because he was. He was, and I

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: was at that game. He see it too, because he

1328
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: got through. He went down and it was an innocuous hit,

1329
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: but his head hit the turf. And then right there

1330
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: there's the freeze. He can't grab his head. See he's frozen.

1331
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It just

1332
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: didn't last as long as it didn't Cincinnati. Same thing now.

1333
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: And here's the thing that here's why you really suspect

1334
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 1: it was not. He said his back was hurt. He

1335
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: never grabbed his back, never never touched his back or

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01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: like reached back on his sciaticade all that. And then

1337
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: he had he goes, he wobbles and goes down right there.

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: Come on, that's a no go. That right that right there,

1339
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: that's a no go. Done for the day. And here's

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01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: the other thing, guys, Because I was in the press

1341
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: box and where those players exit to go to the

1342
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: Miami locker room, it goes right in front of us

1343
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: in the press box. There he was wobbling even here. Yeah,

1344
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: like there was one spot right before he got under

1345
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: that tent he wobbled again, and the and the like

1346
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: kind of kind of escorted him again. So it was

1347
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: it was bad. It was really bad. Um. Yeah, I

1348
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: don't know what repercussions those Well, if doctors are going

1349
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 1: to get well, he got fired them. The independent one

1350
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: end them. But I'm talking team. That's the guy that

1351
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: ultimately decides who goes back in a game or not.

1352
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: Tame doctor probably got a raise. Oh come on, no,

1353
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 1: I do know that the first offense if if the

1354
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 1: league finds them guilty of an offense of the concussion Protocol,

1355
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: they put the medical staff through remedial training and the

1356
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: teams find one hundred and fifty kow. That's peanuts, right,

1357
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: That's not enough to convince people to do something different, right,

1358
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: It's a shame. So I'll be very interested to see

1359
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: what these new protocols are going forward. Hopefully they can

1360
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: protect the players a little bit better than we've seen

1361
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: so far. They see it happened in Tampa two with

1362
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: that tight end that Cameron Bright. He went back in

1363
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 1: the game. He went back in the game. It's terrible.

1364
01:13:55,880 --> 01:14:04,839
Speaker 1: Somebody who thirm third. Yeah, we even anticipate your jersey reveal.

1365
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: What do you do? You do that on Instagram usually? Right,

1366
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: what's your give everybody your Instagram handles. Just do a

1367
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: searching and stop. It's kind of like a fun thing.

1368
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: See what Jersey Thurn's got on this week. So check

1369
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: it out on Sunday. He'll probably have to Sunday time

1370
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 1: coming over them Sunday. Oh, I think I'm you know what.

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: I enjoy it the tail Yayton too, the first prime

1372
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: time this time? No, yeah, one o'clock. Yeah, I might

1373
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: get here like ten wobe, I might do that, Yeah, exactly.

1374
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good one here. Yeah, Thurham, thanks

1375
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: for stopping by. As always, we appreciate it. Enjoy the

1376
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: game on Sunday, all right, appreciate you guys. All right,

1377
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: that's all a famer Thuram and Thomas here with us

1378
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. It's

1379
01:14:51,560 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, It's One Bills Live here

1380
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. As

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: per usual, we're asking you today your key to a

1382
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: Bill's victory over the Steelers, and we lead off on

1383
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, which is brought to you as always

1384
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1385
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and Steve says, controlling the line of

1386
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: scrimmage on both sides of the ball, this is an

1387
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: easy win if we can pressure the rookie QB and

1388
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 1: we can keep Josh clean throughout the day. You know,

1389
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: we talked about the injuries in the secondary, Steve, We

1390
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: already know no t J. Watt late in the game

1391
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: last week against the Jets. Cameron Hayward, who is still

1392
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: a monster in his eleventh season elbow and knee injuries.

1393
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 1: He didn't practice yesterday either. We'll see what the Thursday

1394
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: injury report says for the Steelers, but if he's not

1395
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, man, they're really thin up front, although

1396
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: they really like their draft choice. It was third round

1397
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: draft pick. Let me see if I got his name

1398
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: right here to Marcus Leal, I think his name is,

1399
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: what's his name to Marvin Leal? It's a third round

1400
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: draft choice. He's coming on for them, so it wouldn't

1401
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: be surprised if he's starting for them by next year.

1402
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: We just said thurmanon and I'm still going back to it,

1403
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: it's this game's about turnovers for Buffalo, if you if

1404
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: they don't turn it over, Pittsburgh is really going to

1405
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: struggle to beat them. If they win the turnover battle.

1406
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: There's there's just no way for the Steelers town to

1407
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: put together enough consistently enough through four quarters to beat

1408
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: this guy. So if the Bills don't give him extra

1409
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: opportunities and don't fumble this one away or have it

1410
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: tipped interceptions and all that stuff, this goes their way,

1411
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: even if it is a close game. So that to

1412
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: me is critical because because all the stuff you just

1413
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: lined out, the injuries and then and the rookie quarterback

1414
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. So we'll see, but Buffalo's

1415
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 1: got to mind what they're doing in order to It's

1416
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: interesting you say that because David on the tweet sheet

1417
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: says not beating ourselves is the key. Again, I don't

1418
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: know that they beat themselves in Miami. I would say

1419
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: they were kind of the victim of the conditions there

1420
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: maybe more than anything else. That's what did it to him,

1421
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,440
Speaker 1: more so than the Dolphins did first half against Baltimore,

1422
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: though you could argue they were beating themselves a little

1423
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 1: bit with their execution or lack thereof. Yeah, balls were

1424
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: hard to catch, you know, Like we said, Josh had

1425
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 1: a little too much on some of the short, fast

1426
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: passes that he was throwing. The receivers were having a

1427
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: hard time adjustined to the environment and led to some

1428
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: drop passes. And you know that it kept him out

1429
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: of keeping that game closer than it was at twenty

1430
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: to three. But they got on top of it early

1431
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 1: enough to get back in it before halftime even though

1432
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,560
Speaker 1: they were trailing by ten, and and then carried it

1433
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: through the second half. And plus the defense continues to

1434
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: play really well. You know, we were talking this week

1435
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: on our podcast Bills by the Numbers about how the

1436
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: Bills don't have the same first half leads that they

1437
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: had last year. Right, they are outscoring opponent sixty three

1438
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: to seven in the second half. That helps. The Bills

1439
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: have allowed seven points in the second half of any

1440
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: game this year point four straight game, just seven points total.

1441
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: That's scary with an injury riddled group. And I give

1442
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,520
Speaker 1: about that. I get it. There's a lot of anomalies

1443
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: that happened in the regulars, but man, oh man, what

1444
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: are the I mean, just I don't want to. What's

1445
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: the other coaching staff? What are they doing? Why aren't

1446
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: they making adjustments? I do not get it. Jeremy on

1447
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet says, not going into this game thinking

1448
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: the point spread means something we have seen over the

1449
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons. We seem to beat teams we

1450
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: are underdogs against and drop some season altering games to

1451
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: two win teams. Discipline on focus is key. Yeah. I

1452
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: think he means discipline and focus is key. Yeah, that's

1453
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: a guy with scar tissue from last year's Jacksonville game.

1454
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. It's a good thing.

1455
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a harsh reminder of mistakes you've made

1456
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: in the past. Yeah. Incidentally, I know a lot of

1457
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: people are pumped up about the fact that this Bill's defense,

1458
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,839
Speaker 1: tied for number one in the league, is going against

1459
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. In case you're wondering how teams in

1460
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: the mcdurban era have fared against rookie quarterbacks in their

1461
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: first start, first appearance against the Bills, they are eight

1462
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: and three. They were four and two last year. Those

1463
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: two losses to Trevor Lawrence and the Jags and to

1464
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: Mac Jones and the Patriots in a windstorm, so not

1465
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: in their first career start, just against rookie quarterbacks. This

1466
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: happens to be a rookie quarterback and it's also his

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Speaker 1: first start. Davis Mills was an example of that. They

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Speaker 1: beat him forty to nothing. T wasn't Taylor Heineke or

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01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: somebody last well, Taylor Hideki wasn't a rookie. Who was it?

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01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: The fruit? Who was? So you had both games against

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01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 1: Mac Jones Mac Jones, and two both games against Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: and then no, they didn't Zack Wilson didn't play in

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: the first game, did he not? I don't think he did.

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01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: One game against Zach Wilson. Then you had Davis Mills,

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01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: and then you had Trevor Lawrence. That's five. There's one

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01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: other one in there, and I'm not somewhere. Let me,

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01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: I'll go back. I gonna remember it. Um talk amongst yourselves. Fine,

1478
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: but there were a lot of games that the Bills

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01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: had to play against rookie quarterbacks and backup quarterbacks. Last

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01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: year Trevor Simeon in New Orleans on Thanksgiving. He wasn't

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01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: a he wasn't rookie, but it was he was like

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01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: third string. Um, so, yeah, Saints, who was Trevor Simeon.

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: That was Trevor Simeon. Um, yeah, they were four and

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01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 1: two last year. I don't know who that was. I

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01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: have no idea who. We'll have to figure it out. Um,

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01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: but you're right there, you go. Zach Wilson didn't play

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01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: in the first game, but eight and three is the

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01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: combined record against rookie quarterbacks, counting the playoff game against

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01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: Mac Jones last year. Eleven total games. No, it was.

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01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't too No, not a rookie last year. He

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01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty draft So either way, the record is

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01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I don't think it's gonna be pretty

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01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's not. Oh, it's not airtight. But this

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: is the first start for Kenny Pickett. It wasn't the

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: first start for Trevor's hope. It's it's high fifties, sunny,

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01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: clear and no wind. Bills be fine, The bills be fine.

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01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: Bills will be fine, Bills will be fine. Just keep

1498
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: saying it to yourself. This week's game sponsor, by the way,

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: The tweet sheet though. We continue there and Josh says

1501
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: the key will be the old line and D line.

1502
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: O line has to find a way to control Cameron Heyward,

1503
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: give Josh time to make plays. D line absolutely must

1504
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: pressure ass and hit the rook can't allow the kid

1505
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: to feel comfortable back there or take off with his legs.

1506
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: Hope Von Gruten company are licking their chops to pummel

1507
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: a rookie. QB. We had Greg Rousseau in here in

1508
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: studio yesterday, and I mean he's a great interview by

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah he's great, Oh my gosh, great. But

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01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: I asked him, you know, do you feel like you're

1511
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: developing that week to week consistency to your game. I mean,

1512
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: he's got four sacks in four games. He's got six

1513
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 1: quarterback pressures this season so far, so I mean that's

1514
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: I think first on the team in sacks, second in pressures.

1515
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: They're at some point they're gonna get to that point

1516
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: where the guys The sweet spot for a D lineman

1517
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: is to set guys up, get a couple of reps

1518
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: against him, and be fresh enough in the game to

1519
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: take advantage of all the things you're doing. The sweet

1520
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 1: spot is to keep rotating guys through there so that

1521
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 1: they're all in that sweet spot. But it's hard to

1522
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: do that because it takes so long to get enough

1523
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: reps where you feel comfortable going and to kind of

1524
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: get a feel for the guy you're gonna go against,

1525
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: because not only are they rotating in as you and

1526
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: I talked about to Greg yesterday, they're moving guys around,

1527
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: so you don't get it. He doesn't rush the left

1528
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: tackle every time he's on the field, he rushes the

1529
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: right tackle, rushes of guards. They move them around, So

1530
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: they got to get it. It takes a long time,

1531
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: and maybe they never get there, but as the game

1532
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: wears on, the freshness of being rotated in and out

1533
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: takes over, because they really don't get enough reps to

1534
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: get a feel for every offensive lineman that they have

1535
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: to compete against, you know what I mean. So I think,

1536
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think Rousseau and that crew are starting

1537
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 1: to get to the point where, even if they don't

1538
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: get a chance to take a bunch of reps against

1539
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: the same offensive lineman over and over, they are getting

1540
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 1: enough reps at those all four spots and getting reps

1541
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: with the guys around them on their own team to

1542
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: rush with a certain combination of four that's starting, I think,

1543
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 1: to make these guys feel a little bit more comfortable.

1544
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: I love seeing him and Vaughan on the same side

1545
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: that I don't know if there's a good answer for that.

1546
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: That tickles you, I know, and I love that look.

1547
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, Yeah, there's so many things

1548
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: that Leslie Frasier can do, and they do do, and

1549
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: they I just can't say enough about the defensive staff

1550
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: shutting teams out in the second half on you know,

1551
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: three of the four games that they've played this year,

1552
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: you can't say enough about that. Yeah, that really that's

1553
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: a dominant performance and they've they've done it over the

1554
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: past month. Low key on the tweet sheet, I hope

1555
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing that right, says focus and discipline are the

1556
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: absolute key. They should blow Pittsburgh away. But with Casey

1557
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: coming up next week, it's a classic trap game. It is.

1558
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: That's the first time I've heard somebody mention it. We

1559
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: haven't been really thinking about that because of I think

1560
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: the Miami game still kind of hangs around in the

1561
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: fact that to come back from so far from to

1562
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: eat Baltimore, you don't really feel like you're flying as

1563
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: high as you normally would be, so, you know, looking

1564
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: forward to the Chiefs game kind of thing. Um, I

1565
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: think those two games and the way they transpired have

1566
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,759
Speaker 1: kept the Bills kind of ground grounded. Yeah, don't you agree.

1567
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. The last two games that

1568
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: He's right though, hard fock grinded out kind of thing.

1569
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of almost prepped them for what this game

1570
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: could shape up to be. When we had Leslie, we

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01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: had not Leslie, we had um Tracy Wolf. On this

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01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: last segment or before Thermal was on, we mentioned I

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01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: mentioned the Kansas City game last year, and she got

1574
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 1: excited about how that game went and what and this

1575
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: next game that was coming up. She could not wait

1576
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: for that matchup. So even the media and the fans,

1577
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: we're all we all want another double overtime kind of thing.

1578
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: You know, we want all of that stuff. All the

1579
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: fans are saying this is gonna be. This is the

1580
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs and the Bills, let's go. Everybody

1581
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: wants that, so you know, it's it's out there. Yeah,

1582
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: And while Loki is talking about a trap game, Vince

1583
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: is on the other side of it. A huge key

1584
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 1: will be the Bills defense putting a whooping on Kenny Pickett.

1585
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL's best defense. Boy. Another would be

1586
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: Josh Allen taking advantage of the Steelers depleted secondary. Fourteen

1587
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: points spread ain't enough. Yeah see it's on the other

1588
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 1: side of the bed. He's already. Guy's worried about a

1589
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: trap game. This guy wants to spread to be twenty one.

1590
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: We are rolling downhill with no brakes. Baby, stop us

1591
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: if you can, all gas, no breaks, and we are

1592
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 1: going downhill with a with a big heavy load on

1593
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: the back. Let's go. That's why you gotta love thee Oh.

1594
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: We take any and all covers. We covered the spectrum

1595
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: right there in two tweets. All right, break time for us.

1596
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: Steve and I back in a moment. Here on one.

1597
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1598
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,440
Speaker 1: He's at the twenty eight, the ten, the five touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Boom Diggity Boom. It is feeling like apple country. It's

1603
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: apple picking season, right, Do you do that with the

1604
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: grandkids at all? Well? I would, but they did it

1605
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: with their parents. Yeah, we were been there, done that.

1606
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: So they can't take him out twice. It's uh, I

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01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: will tag along. I won't take him, but I'll tag along.

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01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: That's Mark. Here's the biggest problem. Yeah, Grandpa's kind of

1609
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: in that rule right now. When I have gone apple picking,

1610
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: here's the biggest problem that you have. You got this

1611
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: giant sack, you know, over your shoulder, and you're going

1612
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: to all these trains like, oh, yeah, I like these apples,

1613
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, so you're just you're not really counting, you're

1614
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: just picking, you know what I mean? Right if yeah, right,

1615
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I think we got you look down in your set.

1616
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: You got like you got like eight pounds of apples.

1617
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 1: We're a family of four. We got no shot at

1618
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: eating all those apples before they go bad. So now

1619
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: now you're going up and down the street, you're handing

1620
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 1: them to neighbor, like, hey, we can't eat all of

1621
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 1: these you want to? Like, I always get way too many,

1622
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I am. That's why I instead of going apple picking,

1623
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: I go to farmers markets. Okay, just get that. You

1624
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: can have a little more self control. Fresh they're done.

1625
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: You know that he's hand him hand You're not about

1626
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: labor intense. Hand him a couple of bills, hand him

1627
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: some money, give them. They give you the apples, you

1628
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: and you can pick the apples you want too. It's like,

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01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: give me not not that way, Yes, give me those, Yes,

1630
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm not climbing any I'm gonna stage in

1631
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: my life than more obviously. Yeah, I'm see, I'm a

1632
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: tag along apple picker. I'll go with him, but I'm

1633
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: not packing the kids up and strapping them into car

1634
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: seats and driving them. You might walk him in the wagon,

1635
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: like throw them in the wagon and I'll drag him around.

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01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: I'll sit under the apple tree smoke a cigar while

1637
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: you can do that. Yeah, I mean, that's I'm the

1638
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm the quintessential grandpa for that. Anything but labor intensive

1639
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: for Steve at this juncture, you have got it right, Okay,

1640
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: that'll do I'll own that. What's I'll own that? Yes? Okay,

1641
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: well that's fair. You earned it, you earned it. No

1642
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: argument here. That'll do it for us today. We got

1643
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow as we always have our friend

1644
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: Greg Cosal from NFL Films, but we also have bills

1645
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: fan Ariel hell Wanie and Eric Wood. We'll see tomorrow

1646
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: at one