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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish

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Speaker 2: You heard the man you are listening or watching Fish

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Speaker 2: on First Live presented by Jetski Rensels of South Florida,

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Speaker 2: that recorded just earlier today as first full squad workout

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Speaker 2: of a spring training always a great milestone for any team,

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Speaker 2: and with the Marlins especially this year. They got this

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Speaker 2: roster that they have about as deep a roster in

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Speaker 2: terms of how many the sheer number of guys that

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Speaker 2: are in Jupiter right now preparing for the upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: We had Isaacazoot on the scene, we had Alex Carver

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Speaker 2: in and out here. I'm Eli Sussman, the founder of

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Speaker 2: Fish on First and joined by Jeremiah Geiger as well,

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Speaker 2: we get to this show. So here they were an

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Speaker 2: annual tradition, Principal owner Bruce Sherman, President Baseball Operations Peter Bendix,

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Speaker 2: making their annual address at the new refurbished Academy, and Bruce,

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Speaker 2: pretty consistent with what we saw last year, was very

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Speaker 2: in a very excitable mood in terms of the direction

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Speaker 2: of this organization. Let's start there, Isaac, in terms of

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Speaker 2: how did this compare to the same scene a year ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, coming off a season where they lost one hundred games, obviously,

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Speaker 3: this one did seem more elated. Coming off a seventeen

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Speaker 3: in both payroll and infrastructure, there did seem to be

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Speaker 3: He covered all the bases as per usual. This is

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Speaker 3: his ninth spring training as principal owner of the Miami Marlins,

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Speaker 3: and I got to say that this is probably the

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Speaker 3: all the work that Peter Medix has done, and you

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Speaker 3: could just tell you he just really trust his right

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Speaker 3: hand man. And yeah, he was very adamant about the

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Speaker 3: fact that last season, as fun as it was and

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Speaker 3: it's not enough. And the message this year to the

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Speaker 3: Clayton won't exactly say that that's the goal. That seems

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Speaker 2: Anything else stick out to you, Carver from what we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just kind of to echo what Isaac said that

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Speaker 5: They really want to highlight what player development is doing.

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Speaker 4: You've seen it already with the what they've done with

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Speaker 4: They took another step forward last year to start to win,

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Speaker 5: So I don't blame them for being confident.

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Speaker 5: So far, and you have to get on the field

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Speaker 4: But I don't blame them for saying, hey, we're doing

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Speaker 2: Well, Jeremiah and I were talking about this very briefly

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Speaker 2: It goes along with doing it their way. Doing it

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Speaker 2: But how the dust settles, and that's where they're at,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Jeremiah just we touched on this briefly the

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, the fact that they have leaned

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they obviously have a plan with what they're doing,

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Speaker 7: what does that entail like to me? That means at

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Speaker 1: It seems like Bruce believes that what Peter.

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Speaker 7: But the other aspect of it is the fan base

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Speaker 4: Now, Well, I'll call something on on that factor, am

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Speaker 4: I He said, verbatim last year that the team will

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Speaker 2: Did they do that, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I mean, I'm not saying he's right about

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Speaker 4: And for him to say that the team could be

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Speaker 4: this year. Their prospects are further along. They have better

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Speaker 4: infrastructure as you guys were just referring to in Jupiter

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Speaker 6: But they don't care. They're going to.

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Speaker 4: Continue to stick to doing this their own way and

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Speaker 4: whether that's good for fans or not, they also don't care.

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Speaker 4: They care about fans, but they don't care that the

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Speaker 6: Stick to that. Well season, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 7: No, I don't necessarily think so either. But his comments

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Speaker 5: Said nothing along the lines of we expect to make

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Speaker 6: So I don't know how.

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Speaker 5: That expectations extraordinary expectations.

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Speaker 8: Doesn't the team's going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: If you were asked directly, do you think the team's

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Speaker 6: Of course you would probably say yeah.

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Speaker 4: But just because you have great expectations doesn't mean they

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Speaker 6: I don't think that they think that either, right.

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Speaker 3: They see huge growth from a lot of their core guys,

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Speaker 3: including guys that have not debuted yet. They see steps forward,

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Speaker 9: You're right, it won't be a lost season, not playoff

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Speaker 3: However, when you do say things like extraordinary expectations, that

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Speaker 3: and put until the last week of the season.

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Speaker 9: Last year.

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Speaker 3: You've only added more reinforcements with not a lot of

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I do think that their expectations are to

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Speaker 4: Right if they win eighty eighty three and somehow missed

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Speaker 3: That's that that would be w I N. That doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean when in September.

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Speaker 5: They're not guaranteeing when that's going to happen.

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Speaker 6: You can't guarantee that.

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Speaker 4: With the young team like this, So extraordinary expectations could

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Speaker 4: also mean that Thomas White comes up and has, you know,

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Speaker 4: six great starts. That would be a great expectation, right.

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Speaker 9: You know what, Carter, I was on your side.

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Speaker 6: I was on your side.

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Speaker 10: Up until there.

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Speaker 8: in the playoffs, Yes, that would be great, and yes,

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Speaker 8: Marlin fans a start for the playoffs, Yes, of course,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so school when they do this, get guys

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Speaker 2: should be skeptical because they have not extended anybody in

441
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: four years. They have not extended a single player for

442
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: any length of time. On a major league deal since

443
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: the famous Richard Bleier extension. So I understand why we

444
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: at this moment should probably lean towards not expecting any

445
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 2: thing when it comes to these things getting done. But

446
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: Uri makes all the sense in the world. I've been

447
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: pretty insistent on that personally as well, so hoping that

448
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: he gets done at some point coming soon.

449
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 4: Speaking of Uri, they have a kid that's out there

450
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 4: as part of the early minor league camp that his

451
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: career trajectory so far very young, but career trajectory so

452
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 4: far is looking like Yuri.

453
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to say this guy is Uri,

454
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 5: but he's a.

455
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 4: If he continues the way that he's going, has a

456
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 4: career trajectory like his, except for he's much larger. And

457
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 4: that's Kevin de Frank. I think that guy is the

458
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: real deal. He was insane last year. He's going to

459
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 4: come to Stateside this year as long as he stays healthy.

460
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: He's massive in person as well. He's already three one

461
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: hundred miles an hour. That that kid is for real,

462
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 4: true name to keep an eye on, and he's massive

463
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: in person as well.

464
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a photo of him, only pull it

465
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: up real quick. I was taken today at early camp.

466
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: And when you said he's bigger, he's not taller than

467
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: your but he is heavier. It's for sure. He's a thick,

468
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 2: thick guy so far. Seventeen year old Kevin de Frank.

469
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: He's at early camp so far.

470
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: And you know, some kids develop differently than others, because

471
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: I can guarantee you I did not develop like that

472
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: as a seventeen year old. I didn't even have hair

473
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: on my chest, Like, are you kidding me?

474
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 11: Man?

475
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 3: That is just unfair, that's crazy. And yeah, covers right.

476
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: He career trajectory wise, the fact that he is going

477
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: to be stateside in twenty twenty six, fish on first

478
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: is going to have to go and make the drive

479
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: for one of his starts in the FCL. Because this

480
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: he has the potential to be. I've said this about

481
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: doing Lose and I'll say it about Kevin Frank. He's

482
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: got the chance to be the number one project in

483
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: the system by this time next year and easily a

484
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: top one hundred guy. If he has a even a

485
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 3: mediocre stateside debut season.

486
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 6: We can get to it too. We might.

487
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: But just to quickly comment on Dylan Lewis, which I

488
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: encourage you guys to go look at the interview that

489
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 4: I me and Kevin dead briefly in that locker room

490
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 4: with him.

491
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 6: But yes, it was just BP.

492
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: But that dude smacks the baseball, Like just the sound

493
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 4: off the bat is different. That's a crazy bat. I

494
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 4: think that guy's gonna be really good.

495
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's he's a big dude. I didn't think it

496
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 10: was that tall, but you all of a sudden see

497
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 10: this huge dude. They're like, damn, that's still in Lewis, Like,

498
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 10: I didn't see that coming. I thought he's a lot

499
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 10: shorter for some reason. But no, he he's listed at

500
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 10: what like six'. TWO i think he's taller than, that

501
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 10: If i'm being honest with, You, yeah He's he's a huge.

502
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 10: Dude and As carver's noting with The, FRANK i think

503
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 10: this time next year you could be seeing To frank

504
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 10: be maybe the number one or number two prospect in

505
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 10: our top. Thirty like that's how good that kid. IS

506
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 10: i mean it'll be between who. Knows lewis could be up,

507
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 10: there The frank could be up. THERE i, mean those

508
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 10: are those two guys are definitely gonna be up somewhere

509
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 10: in the top. Area they keep going up the way they're,

510
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 10: going we'll see WHAT i, though maybe he'll be number.

511
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: Three, well he'll move up just because somebody the guy's

512
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: near the top are anyway from, eligibility we assume over

513
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: the course of this upcoming, season With thomas being a,

514
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: possibility With Joe mac being a virtual, Certainty snelling being

515
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: virtual certainty to, graduate And casey of, Course casey being

516
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: probably the most surefire lock of the bunch at some

517
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: point to get enough time to graduate from. Eligibility then

518
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 2: HE i think for the, moment do we Have casey

519
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 2: ahead of To, FRANK i think so by like a. Spot,

520
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: yeah m, hm, Yes now you did kind of gloss

521
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: over in terms of the defensive alignment that we saw

522
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: today at the. Workout we should zone in on first

523
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: base a little bit from the small glimpse Of co

524
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: nine and morel at first. Base did you guys have

525
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: any sort of impression in terms of whether or not

526
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: that's going to be legit for the. Season it don't look.

527
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 10: Terrible it's not, Terrible like it's not like they actually

528
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 10: can't catch the ball or anything. Like you, know it's

529
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 10: obviously a work in. Progress but you're Seeing i'm just

530
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 10: curious to see how this is gonna, work, honestly AND

531
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 10: i think this is probably be one of the bigger

532
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 10: storylines Stout, spring outside of who gets one of those

533
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 10: final rotation. Spots but they're just big dudes at that.

534
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 10: POSITION i don't.

535
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't.

536
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 10: Know griff looked pretty comfortable with spoken to. Him he

537
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 10: seemed like he's been adjusting. Well he, says it's really

538
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 10: now just about kind of the reaction times and all

539
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 10: that stuff with. Morale he said he moves well there

540
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 10: at the position, too and he looked like. It the

541
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 10: only thing that really sucks With griff is the. Arm.

542
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 10: MAN i it sucks that he won't be in the

543
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 10: outfield because he has a great arm and good strength

544
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 10: out there and he could really be a huge help out.

545
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 10: There but he did not take any outfield reps, today

546
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 10: from WHAT i, saw was only first, base AND i

547
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 10: wouldn't be shocked if that's the case for that least

548
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 10: the first week or. Two but he said he was

549
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 10: working on, that as you, know before the full squad report.

550
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 10: Date he reported early To. Jupiter so curious to see

551
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 10: what that ends up looking. Like i'm curious to see

552
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 10: just how soon he gets in the game action at the.

553
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 10: POSITION i, mean they have the first game On, saturday

554
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 10: aut to be shocked if he's in. THERE i mean

555
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 10: him Or morell and they're both gonna have to get

556
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 10: a lot of playing time in that, position regardless of you,

557
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 10: know they're gonna have to make those trips out because

558
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 10: you gotta get them reps at the end of the.

559
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 10: DAY i, mean that's right, now that's the first base,

560
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 10: tandem right Unless i'm missing someone. Else But bert didn't

561
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 10: take any reps there for it's worth at, all so

562
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 10: he was in the, outfield so they probably maybe Seen

563
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 10: hi as a fourth outfielder pultoon, option but, yeah it's

564
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 10: it was those two guys And Liam hicks took very

565
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 10: limited reps, there but he went to catch right after.

566
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: Bullpens it's the first day of the first, week as they,

567
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: say mighty, ball so but the first. Impression obviously they

568
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: don't they don't have a single pure first basement on the,

569
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 3: roster even Counting Davison. Lee, like no one is a

570
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: bona fide first baseman on this. Team so, yeah LIKE

571
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: i think that if this does happen where they do

572
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: open the season With conan and morel it could be fun. Offensively,

573
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 3: HONESTLY i can see both both of those guys sking

574
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: a huge step forward well with the but it's gonna

575
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 3: be some growing. Paints because they handled papos a shallow

576
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: right field. Papos they handled. Pfps some guys were pretty

577
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: late covering where they needed to. Cover you could definitely

578
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: tell that it was their first, time their first year

579
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: playing the. Position But morell great on his. Feet Griffin,

580
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: cohen a really smart baseball, player knows what he's. DOING

581
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: i think that if they get enough for, raps As kevin,

582
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: SAID i think they definitely can make it.

583
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 9: Work and this is a team that is obviously.

584
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 3: Willing to give guys opportunities at different positions just to

585
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 3: get their bats in the.

586
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 9: Lineup AND i think that's something that you might see.

587
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: Here we're joined By Daniel. Rodriguez give us a full

588
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: six pack of people on this, stream.

589
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: On this forty man.

590
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: Roster somebody's missing that we got very used to over

591
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: the last handful of. Month No Josh. Simpson he was

592
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: designated for assignment last. Week and AS i think The

593
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: morelans expected and maybe maybe the surprise of, fans but

594
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: he was true interest from other. Teams he was claimed

595
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: by The, mariners was claimed by the Defending American League West,

596
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: champions a pretty good team that has made room for

597
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: him in exchange for cash. CONSIDERATIONS i know there were

598
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: some strong opinions About, simpson and more so about the

599
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: usage Of simpson last, year not to make it too,

600
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: personal but more so about how reliant The marlins were

601
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 2: on him last, year mainly because of his left, handedness

602
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: but also because of some of the swing and miss

603
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: upside that he showed From. Jeremiah i'm just curious how

604
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: you feel about this era potentially being. Over it's always

605
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: possible that he gets waived at some other point in

606
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: the near term future if he doesn't make The, mariners

607
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: if they don't find a spot for him on the

608
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: forty man moving. Forward but how do you feel about

609
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: The marlins holding on to him throughout the entire offseason

610
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: and then getting to the ends and then feeling that

611
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: he didn't fit on the roster and you, know sort

612
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: of giving up on his potential to you, know bounce

613
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: back into a more reliable lefty middle.

614
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Reliever, yeah they you know it.

615
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 7: Was the usage last year was very, debatable to say

616
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 7: the least at times pitching late in the ninth, inning tenth.

617
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 7: Inning but and it was, frustrating but they kept him.

618
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 7: AROUND i think because they, saw like you, said, Potential

619
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 7: they saw there was something there in the. Tank the

620
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 7: production didn't always meet the, expectations but that's why a

621
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 7: team like The mariners hops, in because they obviously see something.

622
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 7: THERE i just think the current left handers they have

623
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 7: on the roster now are better Than Josh, simpson Like John.

624
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 7: King i'd rather Have John king Than Josh. Simpson and

625
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 7: it was hard to justify keeping four left handers on

626
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 7: the on the forty man or on the twenty six

627
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 7: man eventually when we get to you, know regular season.

628
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: Action SO i wish him the.

629
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 7: Best seattle's a good team And i'm sure he's gonna

630
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 7: get ample opportunity.

631
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: There.

632
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 10: Well, no it is justifiable again with Because Josh simpson

633
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 10: has an option, left so they could have sent him.

634
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 10: Down SO i think it would have been a combo

635
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 10: Of nardi And king regardless and Maybe. Kad but to

636
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 10: say it isn't just, AFIABLE i think is. WRONG i

637
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 10: think you can have went out four of them on

638
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 10: the forty, Man i'd be totally fond with. THAT i

639
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 10: think it was just a matter of who you have

640
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 10: on the twenty, six and they probably would have had

641
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 10: maybe two of those guys and the other two in the.

642
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 10: Miners all of them have minor league, options EXCEPT i Think.

643
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 9: King, yeah but if they don't Deface, simpson who would

644
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 9: you have de?

645
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: Faiked?

646
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 10: No, WELL i know you do fade. Them but to

647
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 10: say it's not, JUSTIFIABLE i think is. Wrong you could

648
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 10: be Fake, peterson m.

649
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 9: You just think there was one. Hundred i'd rather Have.

650
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: Peterson you like his, Fastball, kevin you said it, YOURSELF

651
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: i do like and, now but if you have one good, pitch, yeah,

652
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 3: right WELL i, AGREE i think you know.

653
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 10: It's if it's solely for the, fastball then.

654
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 9: Correct, Yeah sophy's choice because.

655
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: Whatever But i'm just saying that instead OF i think

656
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: you could be comfortable. With now you Have, king who

657
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: is an established left handed major league, believer and Hopefully

658
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: nardi is healthy and hopefully he can, contribute and then

659
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: you Have Kate gibson as. Well they're not going to

660
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: really be depending on too many. Lefties they're obviously shown

661
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: last year they were fine with having only one on

662
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: the roster at some, POINT i think they had. Zero

663
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: so you have three major league caliber options in addition

664
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: to the two right handed options that you know are

665
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: going to contribute at some point this.

666
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 9: YEAR i think you know you're more than fine getting.

667
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: Rid Of, simpson, who like we mentioned on the last,

668
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: team has just been struggling at every level of the

669
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: last two.

670
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 9: Years is just not shown. Much and if another team

671
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 9: can unlock, something, great But i'm. NOT i don't think

672
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 9: anyone's gonna lose leep over what could have been.

673
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: HERE i, Agree, yes it is a bad. Time as you,

674
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: mentioned it's we reached the stage where there's just not

675
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: a clear there wasn't a super obvious weak link on

676
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: this forty Man at this. Point it's a deep forty man.

677
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: Roster not every guy is big league, ready BUT i

678
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: MEAN i should say. THAT i, mean there are a

679
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: couple guys on here that have guaranteed deals no options,

680
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: Left like we'll see What morell turns. Into we'll see What, Okay,

681
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: okay you know, WHAT i was being too. Generous they

682
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: went out of their way to Get Garrett atkin And Brady,

683
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: blaylock and we don't know if they're really gonna turn

684
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: into much of, Anything, LIKE i don't THINK i think

685
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: it could have been justifiable to squeeze one of them

686
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: off as. Well they didn't need to Be simpson in this.

687
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Case it's really on this pitching side where they're rolling

688
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: the dice on some, guys but the ones with other,

689
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: ORGANIZATIONS i guess it's easier to be, Patient whereas With,

690
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: simpson he's been in The marlins organization the entire time

691
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: throughout his career since twenty. Nineteen, overall he was on

692
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: a nice trajectory in terms of a potential swing and

693
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: miss reliever early, on as it kind of alluded, to

694
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: the last couple of years is when it hasn't gone

695
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: back on, track and that came directly after going through

696
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: an elbow procedure in early twenty twenty. Four so THAT'S

697
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: i think that played a role in terms of kind

698
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: of pushing him off the trajectory that he was previously.

699
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: On like kind of intriguing AS I i consider today

700
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: really the almost the clearest end date for the, offseason

701
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: which is WHY i have all the off season acquisitions.

702
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Highlighted it's twenty percent of the forty man roster from

703
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: outside The, orgue five, pitchers three. Hitters the biggest profile

704
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: ONES i think everybody would agree would Be fairbanks And.

705
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: Casey casey because of his, prospect predigree and long term,

706
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: potential And fairbanks because of how much he could make

707
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: a difference this one particular. Year all these other guys taking,

708
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: flyers mostly the ones that are coming off of down

709
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: years or have very minimal big league, Experience and, overall

710
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: this is not a whole lot of not a whole

711
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: lot of turnover compared to the typical. Team well Fing

712
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 2: daniel in here on this that Overall daniels like zoom.

713
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: Out this is a lot of the same dudes as

714
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five for this. Team kind of just they've

715
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: they've shed a couple key starting. Pitchers but, yeah all things,

716
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: considered there's like a decent amount of whatever good vibes

717
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: and clubhouse culture was working last year in the way

718
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: that those pieces fit. Together, overall they're kind of just

719
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: counting on a lot of these guys take another step

720
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: forward this.

721
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 12: Year, Yeah, yeah they're they're they're counting on these guys

722
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 12: that we saw maybe limited last year and seeing how

723
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 12: they do in a full. SEASON a guy Like Jacob

724
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 12: marcy and how well he performed in his part of

725
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 12: the season last, year to see how he does with

726
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 12: a full season of, action and it's the guy that

727
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 12: he could potentially be in the long term plans for The.

728
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 12: Marlins you have a guy, Awesome Javier. Sonola how is

729
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 12: he going to do coming off a gold glove? Season,

730
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 12: again that's a guy that could fit in multiple. Positions

731
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 12: but they have just so many young, players especially on

732
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 12: the hitting side of the, ball WHERE i feel Like

733
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 12: Peter bendix and everyone in a player development front office

734
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 12: is just looking at these guys to see how they

735
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 12: can fit them in their long term. Plans you look

736
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 12: at the, outfield it seems seems so, crowded especially now

737
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 12: With Owen. Casey you have grayf who knows where he's gonna,

738
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 12: be uh and just you Know, marci you Have Christopher.

739
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 12: Morele where are they even gonna plug him? At it

740
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 12: just seems like the outfield has become really cloud not,

741
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 12: clouded but very compact or excuse, me.

742
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 11: Very crowded in terms of how they're gonna.

743
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 12: Have But i've really liked what they've done so, far

744
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 12: especially coming into this, season to see where everyone's gonna

745
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 12: fit and where they're gonna plug and play. Everyone but

746
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 12: it compared to the last couple of, YEARS i think

747
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 12: this would be very good Further marlands and just really

748
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 12: seeing where.

749
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 11: Guys have come off from last season to where they're

750
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 11: going to.

751
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Be, Now i'm, sorry you cannot make that argument That

752
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: snow is the best player you can. Make you can

753
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: make it play someone indispensable because of how many position

754
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: untouchable that would. Be the roster alignment would have to

755
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: be shaken up quite a bit if he wasn't available

756
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: or missed any time last. Year and this is a

757
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: pretty popular. Opinion we Had sean go deeper on this

758
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: on the website On friday about, Now otto has already

759
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: pretty solid everyday, player but the upside he has if

760
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: he gets just more hits on balls and play and

761
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: to go along with everything else that he, Provides, yeah

762
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: he's be looking at a very big year as. Well

763
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: NOW i understand, THIS i KNOW i snow how it's,

764
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: popular but actually being a stud a little bit below

765
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: the stud tier all due respect way.

766
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: Below, WELL i, mean if he continues and provide proves

767
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: to be a major leader for a, WHILE i was

768
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 3: we were looking at the forty men. Snapshot but because

769
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: we're aways gonna get pictures that someone's gonna have to

770
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: be squeezed off on the position player. SIDE i would

771
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: bet my bottom dollar no disrespect That cerna is the

772
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: next one squeezed off whenever they do acquire another position.

773
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 9: Player oh, yeah he's around a little bit.

774
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: About certain, guys and just the consensus is that there's

775
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: just a lot of upside, there AND i think he's

776
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: the one guy of everyone on the of everyone on

777
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: the position player, side he would be x to be squeezed.

778
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: Off very nice, guy took great pictures at Fan. Fest but,

779
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: YEAH i don't think they're enamored with him as they

780
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: were when they acquired him from The yankees in That jazz.

781
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: TRADE i just wanted to just wanted to throw that out.

782
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 11: There mm.

783
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 9: HMM i know how you. FEEL i Defends what DOES i?

784
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 9: Mean ruiz is The.

785
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 10: Yeah but that guy they actually brought this guy in.

786
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 9: For, yeah they also brought insert.

787
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 12: Up but let's say how they run In, Ruie but

788
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 12: what is he actually going to? Do this, guy you,

789
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 12: know floating around the WHOLE. Mlb the last couple of

790
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 12: seasons had one good year with the athletic with seventy

791
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 12: something stolen. Bases what has he done since? That he

792
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 12: can't hit the. Ball he's horrible. Defensively you're just gonna

793
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 12: limit him to just running around the? Bases is that just?

794
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 12: Really what do you really want to value out of?

795
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 11: Him?

796
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah despite the speed and you, know being a big,

797
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: outfield he just does not grade that. WELL i think

798
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: the arm has a lot to do with it as.

799
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 9: Well BUT i.

800
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 3: Think that in defensive and late game defensive, substitution he's

801
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: still someone that can be very, useful especially that i't

802
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: feel you Have Star, wars you Have marsion, center you

803
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: Put ruis and left for, example that he covers a

804
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: lot of ground.

805
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 9: There you don't need a huge arm for left.

806
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: FIELD i think he can be pretty, useful especially If

807
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: ra's leads off the ninth inning with a.

808
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 6: Walk there you.

809
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 9: Go so there is some use for.

810
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 3: Him we've Seen World series teams have guys like, that

811
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: AND i could See.

812
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 9: Estary ruiz. Twenties he's like twenty.

813
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: Six although twenty seven off the top of my.

814
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 9: Head and he's. Eight he's my age.

815
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 11: According to the. Car where you're twenty, seven you're you're. Cooked, yeah.

816
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 3: Twenty.

817
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 9: SEVEN i.

818
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: Want to do this twenty seven, yesterday, Right, yeah.

819
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 9: Happy, Birthday.

820
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 11: LUISE i love.

821
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: YOU i don't know you, yet but we'll learn to love.

822
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 9: You but he was, there he Took Repsom.

823
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: Center, yeah another BUT i don't. Know, yeah, well this

824
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: is a look at the forty. MAN i wanted to

825
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: transition to this is my current opening day roster projection

826
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: that's put on the site. Today SO i just bolded

827
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: all the guys THAT i think as currently constituted this

828
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: this is HOW i would estimate it playing. Out AND

829
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: i know this was Not this was not a. CONSENSUS

830
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: i don't think there is a consensus at this point

831
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: exactly how it's going to play. Out just to make

832
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: sure that everybody knows the. Basics twenty six man active

833
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: roster for opening, day and it's with a few, exceptions

834
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: thirteen pitchers and thirteen position. Players that's HOW i imagine

835
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: The marlins going about it right, here AND i think

836
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: we can we kind of touched on it, already BUT

837
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: i wanted to again into some more specific roster battles

838
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: going on in. Camp camp, BATTLES i should, say they

839
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: will determine how it shakes out and we.

840
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 6: Touched casey and starts In TRIPLE.

841
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: A mm, hm you, know let's get into because too

842
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: many to. Me to, me we one we touched on

843
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: the hitter, side and So jared's aartned a nodding consideration

844
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: for the opening day h even THOUGH i am relatively high.

845
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 6: On him and he's been Over Josh.

846
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: White let's start on on the hitting side. First you

847
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: guys disagree with me if you. WANT i think it's

848
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: pretty clearly fourteen guys for thirteen spots on the hitting. Side,

849
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: right you rule out A coasta who's going to be

850
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: your classic shortstop second. Base somebody gets hurt And sarna

851
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: understandably has a lot of work to. Do we think

852
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: That Joe mack it's a question of how long the

853
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: leashes On augustine as a. Catcher That mac will be

854
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 2: up very early in the year once there's an opportunity for,

855
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: it but they're not going to force him on the

856
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: opening eight. Roster and Then davison some encouraging signs over the,

857
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: winter but still somebody that has to coming off the

858
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: year that he had At TRIPLE a last, year they're

859
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: going to want to see something from him moving. Forward

860
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: so then it comes down to the rest of these

861
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: guys in kind of up fourteen guys thirteen. SPOTS i

862
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: don't think any of the nrris on the Position blairer

863
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: side are going to make a serious. Push gives it the.

864
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: Injury so the way THAT i was like into it

865
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: trying to GET i went into it leaning Towards, casey

866
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 2: making it at some standpoint he has nothing left to

867
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: prove At TRIPLE. A he's spent the better part of

868
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: two years down, there and of course The marlins valued

869
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: him very, highly making him the centerpiece of That Edward cabrera.

870
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: Trade to, ME i think his status is a lot

871
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: related To conine and the fact, that Like conine was

872
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 2: a guy that early on last year he was going

873
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: to be close to an everyday corner outfielder for this.

874
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: Team he has begun that transition to first. Base but

875
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: even If casey is one of the thirteen best position

876
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: players on this, roster, like where is this playing time

877
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: going to come from as things are currently, situated Unless

878
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: conine is a full time first baseman and all of

879
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: a sudden there's this big void in right. Field but to,

880
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: me like at this, juncture that seems a pretty bold

881
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 2: proclamation to. Make So i'm like going through the thought

882
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: exercise and wondering who else could, Be, like where's how

883
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: how is this going to make sense For casey in

884
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: terms of being able to play? Regularly AND i started

885
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: looking at somebody Like Connor norby and the fact, that

886
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: like there's certain number at bats That norby is gonna

887
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: eat up at various positions right, now and that like

888
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: he's kind of out of place on this roster as it.

889
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: Is maybe that's a guy that could go down to

890
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: make room For casey, somewhere but to, me like it

891
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: just seems like an awkward fits currently constituted that in my,

892
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: MINDS i Envisioned marlins waiting For, really this is how

893
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: it almost always. Goes they're either going to wait for

894
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: an injury or they're gonna wait for somebody to, fail

895
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: and they're gonna wait for somebody that just can't, hit

896
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: And casey is going to be the next guy. Up but,

897
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: yes that's that's my most controversial. Pick So i'm curious

898
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: about if you guys clearly a, couple you probably feel,

899
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 2: differently how is it that you think That casey would

900
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: fit into this picture right?

901
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 4: Now that's a just blain, Example he's Not conin's not

902
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: gonna Block.

903
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 11: Casey so.

904
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: They're similar, players but the tools are much louder For Owen,

905
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 4: casey he's nothing left to prove In TRIPLE. A as

906
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 4: he alluded, to it would be absolutely cruel to send

907
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 4: him To TRIPLE.

908
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 6: A it would suck For conine to have to go.

909
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: Down AND i don't think they'll send him.

910
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 4: DOWN i think that he will be a first baseman

911
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: and A, dh but mostly a first, baseman AND i

912
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: think that's.

913
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 6: Fine you do waste a little bit of his.

914
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: Arm he guess have a really good, arm and his

915
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: routes actually aren't bad in the, outfield so he can

916
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: actually slot in as an outfielder if you need him

917
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: to on a day off or whatever it may. Be

918
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: but from WHAT i hear you, Saying, eli it's that

919
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: you have to Put conine on and Not. Casey that

920
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: that's simply not. True they're not going to.

921
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 10: Let count, well and not even. THAT i, mean for

922
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 10: whatever it's, worth if A Sirira luiz does not have

923
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 10: a good, spring they have a minor league option where

924
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 10: they could send him down A TRIPLE. A and they

925
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 10: still Have heroberto who's the right handed hitter as that

926
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 10: fourth outfielder off the. Bench SO i do agree With

927
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 10: carver here WHERE i don't Think Griffin conan is the.

928
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 10: PROBLE i think it's more of If, Sierra ruiz Or

929
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 10: heroberto who ends up being the better player throughout the

930
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 10: spring and who ends up being the guy who ends

931
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 10: up on that. Roster BECAUSE i do, AGREE i Think

932
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 10: griff is going to be the first baseman that with

933
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 10: very limited. OUTFIELD i think it's gonna be co nine

934
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 10: it And morale splitting time between between first. Base as

935
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 10: much as as bad as that could be in terms of,

936
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 10: DEFENSE i think that's they're willing to sacrifice some defense

937
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 10: to gain something. Offensively and as much AS i do

938
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 10: THINK i could see a role For, ruiz that just

939
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 10: isn't a Spotform AND i don't see a world right

940
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 10: now where they send Out. Norby norby would have to

941
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 10: be atrocious and spring training for.

942
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 9: Them to send it.

943
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 10: Down and then again we saw what they happened With

944
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 10: stours and they still put them on the opening day,

945
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 10: Roster SO i don't. KNOW i Think ruiz would be

946
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 10: the automate out in this.

947
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: Case and just REMEMBER i think that's one thing we're forgetting.

948
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: That we're just gonna assume that it's gonna be a

949
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: platoon at first space to. Begin LIKE i sort of

950
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: got caught up in that as. Well they Gave christopher

951
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: morrel to a million dollars to be a major. Leaguer

952
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: he is going to be the everyday first baseman for

953
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: at least the first, month but maybe he'll get an

954
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: occaional day off against a, righty but he is going

955
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: to be getting starts against both righty's and.

956
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 9: Lefties co nine is going to be the odd.

957
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: Man, out assuming that he'll either have a decent spring

958
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: and he'll be a bench bad power back off the,

959
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: bench or maybe he'll get into first base or Corner alto's.

960
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 9: Fault once in a.

961
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 3: While TO i, MEAN i don't think he's better defensively

962
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: Than casey Or stours, Anyway so, NO i would see

963
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: him on the. Bench ruiz on the team as. Well

964
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: AND i just Think morel's the every day go out

965
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: of first. Base i've, asked AND i think there's no

966
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: way That casey does not make an opening day ross

967
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: unless he hasn't charge of.

968
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 9: Spring but then, Again Griffin conan has just a big.

969
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: A chance to really flounder, offensively where you know we're

970
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: forgetting as great as he was in that little cup

971
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: of coffee last.

972
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 9: Year there's a lot of flaws in that.

973
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: Profile and MAYBE i like he did come back at

974
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: the end of the, year hit a home, run a

975
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: big home run In, philadelphia struggled the rest of the,

976
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: way AND i think they're hoping he can really turn

977
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 3: it around and make it make himself modified major. Leaguer

978
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: BUT i Think Christopher mel's the first. Basement and know

979
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: on in case he's a right, fielder you can MARK i.

980
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 6: Would agree that That ruiz is on the.

981
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 4: TEAM i, mean you, know the only reason that you

982
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: brought him here is because you need a right and

983
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: a hitting outfielder, right so and he plays other, positions

984
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: SO i think that he is also on the. Team

985
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: And casey is definitely on the. Team So, CONINE I

986
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 4: i would hope he's on the. TEAM i don't think

987
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: he has anything left to prove In TRIPLE a, either but,

988
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 4: YEAH I I morale is gonna.

989
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 6: PLAY i agree With.

990
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: Isaac they don't invest money to sit players on a,

991
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: bench so he's gonna play probably a lot of. Games

992
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 4: But conine is gonna be in. THERE i think you'll see.

993
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: HIM i think he will be on the. Team but

994
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: there's there's no possible way that he's playing meaningful games

995
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: over On.

996
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 6: Casey that's that will not happen in my.

997
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 10: Opinion, yeah they made the trade they, Made they made

998
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 10: the trade to Get they made that trade for For

999
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 10: casey to play and at the major league. LEVEL i

1000
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 10: just don't see a world where he starts In TRIPLE,

1001
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 10: a unless obviously that he's injured and he has to

1002
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 10: go play rehab. Games but he's gonna be on the

1003
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 10: major league. Team he will be the starting right fielder

1004
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 10: On march twenty seven against The.

1005
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: ROCKIES i can see.

1006
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: A world where we're just wrong and they demote him

1007
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: the day before and elising to replay this clip on

1008
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: the opening day.

1009
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 9: Street that's the prediction for.

1010
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: Tonight yea Last i'll say on. This we did touch

1011
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: on The. RUIZ i do want to hammer home with

1012
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: a very specific thing that he brings to the, stable

1013
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: which is going to be especially with his. Legs this

1014
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: Former American league is stolen base. Champion, WELL i think

1015
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 2: he set the, record The American league rookie stolen based.

1016
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: Record.

1017
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yah, YadA the fact that they have that's A

1018
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: Derek hill sort of thing that they had last, year

1019
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: except this is even more extreme version where this is

1020
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: a guy that he's the last guy on the. Bench

1021
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: he doesn't really need to start very, often if at,

1022
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: all but he still fills this very niche role in

1023
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: terms of giving them more base running in these high

1024
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: leverage moments where somebody else gets on base for him

1025
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: and then he steals, second he steals, third and that

1026
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: ultimately makes the difference in the. GAME i don't think

1027
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: there's any question That casey, is like in a, vacuum

1028
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: the bigger asset for this team and the one that

1029
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: is maybe more deserving of being a big leaguer right.

1030
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: Now it's just THAT i in case he makes the,

1031
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: TEAM i don't. KNOW i think he moved these things.

1032
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: Around it's harder to see how people get all the

1033
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: played appearances that they're supposed to get in that, Combination

1034
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 2: like it's somebody's gonna have to get a lot less

1035
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: playing time than they'd like. To AND i if he

1036
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: does well enough this this spring to make it clear

1037
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: that he deserves to be pretty much an everyday, player

1038
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 2: then that solves. It it's, again this was a really

1039
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: close call for me deciding one way or the. Other

1040
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 2: but to, ME i felt That ruiz has this very

1041
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: clear niche on this team where he's he's a, low

1042
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: low maintenance roster, spot but yet still one because he

1043
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: just doesn't you don't need, to you're not counting on

1044
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: anything from his bad but yet still has value because

1045
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: of his right handedness and most most importantly because of

1046
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: the speed and the ability to at least fake it

1047
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: in center field better suits, DEFENSIVELY i think for left

1048
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: field moving. Forward so that's kind of Where i'm coming,

1049
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: at where even If casey is deserving like it's it is,

1050
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: somewhat it's, not it's, not it's. Not it doesn't really

1051
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: benefit anybody if he's on the big league. Team BUT

1052
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: i THINK i saw somebody will out the double. CHECK

1053
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: i think With christina De nicola's project opening day, projection

1054
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: she also put together a, lineup a projection lineup of

1055
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: what it looks, like and she did Like casey it

1056
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: in the number nine, Spot LIKE i, mean that's that's

1057
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: the kind of scenario where what are what are we?

1058
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: Doing like why.

1059
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 9: He is also.

1060
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: Batting ninth in the, lineup and not. Playing like to,

1061
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: me that's a scenario that doesn't really add.

1062
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 3: THAT i don't think that would happen. Either and one

1063
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: it might be a silly thing to, say but you,

1064
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: know it's a. Business it's an. Organization the two goals

1065
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: are to make, money sell tickets and to win ball.

1066
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: Games AND i think That casey being on the opening

1067
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: day roster helps both of those. Causes AND i don't

1068
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 3: think she could be hitting. NINTH i didn't really UNDER

1069
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: i saw that lineup. PROJECTION i did not make sense

1070
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: of it at. ALL i think you'd be hitting. Right

1071
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: it smack in the middle of that.

1072
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 9: Lineup and, hey you just traded one of the most

1073
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 9: established storting.

1074
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: Pictures you had probably arguably the best starting picture you

1075
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 3: had last year for this. PLAYER i think it would

1076
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: be a strange way to go about it to have

1077
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: him starting TRIPLE a when he already got a couple

1078
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: of coffee last, year albeit he. STRUGGLED i Think Owen

1079
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: Casey Kyle frieland starting op day annoys.

1080
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 10: Me but opening day right fielder case here's my. Question

1081
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 10: Why Michael peterson over Leg? Bach oh my, God, kevin who?

1082
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 6: Cares we got a?

1083
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 9: POINT i got a little.

1084
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: Bit at some point because that that was to, me

1085
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: it was pretty much a coin flip between those two

1086
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: and that was a close call between them for that particular.

1087
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: Job as like the last righty middle reliever in, There

1088
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: and it's when you look at. Backers last backer had

1089
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: a lot of hype coming out of like spring. TRAINING

1090
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: i know that the data nerds loved his pitch shapes

1091
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: and the how he had expanded his pitchmakes and there

1092
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: was a stretch of time where he was actually doing really.

1093
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: Great it earned him a surprisingly high percentage of opportunities

1094
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: inheriting base runners last. Year The mormins had a lot

1095
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: of trust in. Him he didn't necessarily repay that trust very.

1096
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: WELL i was like, dibbing especially the way that he.

1097
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: Ended he quietly ended the season pretty. Shakily like the

1098
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: last quarter of the. Season baker was not. Good it

1099
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: was not only an era north as. Six it was

1100
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: a fip right around six as. Well down the. Stretch

1101
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: it was more, walks it was less, strikeouts it was

1102
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: more extra base, hits and it was allowing a lot

1103
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: of those inherited runners to score last. Year so like to,

1104
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: me it's he's somebody that is definitely under consideration moving,

1105
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: forward BUT i don't think he's going to be a

1106
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: priority for this team at the, moment just on depending

1107
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: on what he shows the. Spring With, Peterson peterson's gonna

1108
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: be thirty two years, old what's coming up In? May

1109
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: and they similar to somebody like you, Know Josh, simpson

1110
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: they held on him all off season because they felt

1111
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: that he was kind of on that borderline of being

1112
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: somebody that could actually be useful to. Them With, peterson

1113
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: you don't hold on to a kuy heading into his

1114
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: age thirty two season all off season unless you plan

1115
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: on using him in the big. Leagues like they're not

1116
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: gonna what he's. Not he's more as much as, Anybody

1117
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 2: like there's this time for him to sink or swim

1118
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: in the big leagues at this stage of his. Life

1119
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: and he has that plus plus fastball velocity that was

1120
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: really intriguing down the stretch of last. Year so expectations aren't,

1121
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: high but in terms of somebody that brings an element

1122
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: that they were kind of missing from the bullpen last.

1123
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: Year this this bullpen was towards the bottom of the

1124
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: league in terms of average fastball. V. Low that was

1125
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: just a ingredient that outside Of Ronnie, enriquez they did

1126
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: not have a ton of that could just blow up by.

1127
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: You so for particular matchups against right handed batters that

1128
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 2: struggle with Ve, LOW i think that's Where peterson would come.

1129
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: In and if he, struggles then just like he has

1130
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: been a handful of times in his, CAREER i don't

1131
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: think they would mind dfing him if you, know the

1132
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: results just aren't. There he also does have somehow has

1133
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: minor league options, left even as a guy in his,

1134
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: thirties so it's it would be a short. Leash SO

1135
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: i Think, kevin you very correctly identified that those are

1136
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: guys THAT i think are in the exact same, bucket

1137
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: And i'm leaning Towards peterson based on the info that

1138
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: we have right.

1139
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 9: Now aside from, THAT i don't like.

1140
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 4: There but, Yeah Josh, white let's talk about this just really.

1141
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 4: Quickly you lie that you've been you were as high

1142
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 4: as as on, him this guy as. Anybody AND i

1143
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: think a good reason where a guy strikes out forty

1144
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: percent of the players that he faced last year forty

1145
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 4: one percent of the players that he faced last year

1146
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: and had a one point sixty five fifth and they

1147
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 4: protected him from The rule five draft because they believe

1148
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: in him and wanted to add him to the forty men.

1149
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 6: Roster why can't he make?

1150
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 4: IT i think he he has more of a spot Than,

1151
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 4: peterson in my, opinion being, younger being having nothing left

1152
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: for the. Miners that, player if he has a good,

1153
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 4: spring should be on, there should be on the.

1154
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: Team i'm only going to a track record. THERE i

1155
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 2: think people got carried away a little, bit just in

1156
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: terms of the likelihood that any player with no big

1157
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: league experience makes the open gay. Roster even with it

1158
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: just doesn't happen very. Often kevin knows this the Last

1159
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: marlins reliever to make a big opening day roster without

1160
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: any major league. Experience who was it with The marlins

1161
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: five years?

1162
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Ago damn? IT i Forgot, Oh Zach.

1163
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 2: Pop Zach? Pop, Now Zach pop Had rule five draft

1164
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: restrictions that. YEAR i don't think people realize, that, yes

1165
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: it had to make the. Roster to, me the drought

1166
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 2: even goes a lot further back than that it's. Been

1167
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: it just doesn't happen very. Often even With white's performance

1168
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: being so undeniably dominant last. Season i'm a huge believer in.

1169
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: HIM i think he's going to spend the majority of

1170
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six at the big league. Level but for Opening,

1171
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: day it just no matter what your position, is it's

1172
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: not even about service time, Really and that's kind of

1173
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 2: why the barrier to getting in is lower for reliever

1174
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: than other, guys because most relievers don't make it all

1175
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: the way through their arbitration years, anyway they. Don't most

1176
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: teams are not going to be too nitpicky about service

1177
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: time when it comes to. That it's a possibility he's in,

1178
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: Contention but ULTIMATELY i think going to air on the

1179
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 2: side of the guys that are where it's more time

1180
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: sensitive to find out what they have in. Them, AGAIN

1181
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: i go to The Michael peterson guy in his, thirties

1182
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: it's time to find out what they have in. Him

1183
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: and if he's if he's still the same guy that

1184
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: he's been the previous couple of years when he's been

1185
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: hopping on the waiver, wire then obviously he's not gonna

1186
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: Block Josh. White that's the easiest way to put. It

1187
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: nobody is getting in the way Of, white like totally

1188
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: grabbing a spot by the. Balls if he does what

1189
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: he's capable of.

1190
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 9: Doing this, spring and to your, credit not only everything.

1191
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 5: He said is a great reason for The marlins.

1192
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 4: Too at the minor league, level What rachel And gabe

1193
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 4: have talked about is if you're, ready you're gonna get your.

1194
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 4: Chance AND i think that that past history that you

1195
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 4: just said about relievers not making the opening gay roster

1196
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: is a great statement to. Make if you deserve, it

1197
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 4: you're gonna get your. Shot that would be an awesome

1198
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 4: thing to. See to See Josh white make this. TEAM

1199
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: i hope he, does AND i think that he's definitely

1200
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: has the capability to do so because he was really

1201
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: good last. Year, look he's looked good so far a

1202
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 4: couple of times That i've seen. Him bro he picked

1203
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: him a strikeout today and pitched his, Iron So i'm

1204
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: so fat.

1205
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 6: PLAYER i think that he's gonna be.

1206
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 10: Good AS i do, AGREE i Think Josh wait should

1207
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 10: should make this opening their. Roster but To eli's, defense

1208
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 10: this is a guy who not only lasted the entire

1209
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 10: offseason on the forty man, roster they had many opportunities

1210
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 10: to dfa this, guy but on top of, that they

1211
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 10: reacquired him during the, Season like this is a guy

1212
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 10: who they had in twenty twenty, four man you forgot

1213
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 10: Got dfade got claimed off. Waivers they probably would have

1214
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 10: liked to keep, him and they reacquired this like they traded.

1215
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 9: For this dude technically for cash.

1216
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 10: Consideration so they see something in this guy that outside

1217
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 10: outside of that, fastball that no one else is seeing right,

1218
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 10: now so may as well try.

1219
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 9: It see what you. Got he's.

1220
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 10: There they could have defaid him the other day For

1221
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 10: zach for whatever his name, Is Josh king or whatever

1222
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 10: his name, is, like they could have done that Or John.

1223
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 10: King i'm, sorry but, YEAH i don't. KNOW i just

1224
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 10: think that they've held, this this on this to this

1225
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 10: guy for so long that there's something that they're seeing

1226
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 10: and that we. Aren't but the last THING i need

1227
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 10: to say is the fact that we're having these conversations

1228
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 10: about a forty man roster, projection whatever it. Is, yeah

1229
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 10: the fact that we're having these conversations shows you how

1230
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 10: far along this, roster this forty nine roster has. Gone

1231
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 10: because to last, year we would have known exactly what

1232
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 10: this opening day roster would have looked. Like it would

1233
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 10: have been a very easy thing to. Do this time,

1234
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 10: around it's much. Tougher it's a lot more, DECISIONS i,

1235
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 10: mean and it's even tougher now to see who there

1236
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 10: going TO dfa outside Of Jared surna.

1237
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: So quickly on the starting rotation, side that's the last

1238
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: thing that will end on in terms of how all

1239
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: that is going to play. Out the guy who said

1240
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: ironenvision in that opening day rotation would Be Sandy, Urie Max,

1241
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: braxton And paddock as the fifth spot With junk as

1242
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: the long. Man that's this WAY i see. It, Partly,

1243
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: yeah it's no fault Of, Junk Like junk was very

1244
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: very good last, year especially the underlying, numbers even more

1245
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: so than the run. Prevention his command was, otherworldly AND

1246
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: i think he somehow demonstrates that same true elite, commands

1247
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: then they may have no choice but to him open

1248
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: up in the. Rotation the thing, is with Both braxton

1249
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: And max not very much reliever experience at all in

1250
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: terms of putting together a roster that kind of compliments each.

1251
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: Other at, least we've Seen junk at the big league

1252
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: level in a multi ending relief role and he's done

1253
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: very well right. There so then the guy that's not

1254
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 2: listed here because he's on the forty man yet Is Robbie, SNELLING.

1255
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 9: I, Mean.

1256
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: Jeremiah let's talk About snelling just a little bit in

1257
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: terms of The he's still just twenty two years, old

1258
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: but his performance At TRIPLE a was mind blowing the

1259
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: second half of the. Year so what do we think

1260
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: that the timing of his call up is going to.

1261
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: Be do you think he has a chance to crack

1262
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: the opening day roster when because it's been doubt compared

1263
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: to what it was just a month. Ago those recent

1264
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: trades gave him fewer bodies to work, through but you,

1265
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: know still a handful of guys in my, opinion that

1266
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: have more experience that would probably have the upper hand on.

1267
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: Him just because of.

1268
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 7: That, well they Paid paddock four million, dollars he's gonna

1269
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 7: be guaranteed a rotation, spot so that kind of cancels

1270
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 7: out Either cabrera Or, weathers whichever way you look at.

1271
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 7: It so it's really just one Spot braxton coming off of.

1272
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 7: Injury to, me if he performs well in spring, Training

1273
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 7: i'd like to see him get a rotation spot back With.

1274
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 7: ROBBIE i want to see him. UP i wanted to

1275
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 7: see him get called up at the end of last.

1276
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 7: YEAR i thought he was Major league. READY i think

1277
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 7: he's going to be a really good. Pitcher there is

1278
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 7: a service time manipulation aspect to, it, which of, course

1279
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 7: remember a couple of years ago With Max. Meyer at

1280
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 7: the time he made that start Against. ATLANTA i think

1281
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 7: he struck out seven or, eight looked really, good immediately

1282
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 7: sent back. Down so it wouldn't shock me If snelling

1283
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 7: started off in TRIPLE. A for, ME i Think junk

1284
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 7: should get a rotation spot just because of how he,

1285
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 7: limited you, know three, passes and that's really important to the,

1286
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 7: organization and he's really good at. It he doesn't walk.

1287
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 7: Anymore i'm also PERSONALLY i Favor junk Over Max. MEYER

1288
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 7: i know you Said meyer doesn't have relievers, Experience well

1289
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 7: maybe this is the year that they start experimenting with,

1290
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 7: that BECAUSE i just don't see. IT i don't See

1291
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 7: Max meyer as a long term fixture in the rotation at.

1292
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 7: All and if you're gonna keep him in the, org

1293
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 7: try to get as much value out of him as

1294
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 7: you can and let that, fastball which isn't very, good

1295
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 7: maybe he can throw it a little bit harder ninety

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01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 7: seven ninety eight out of the. Bullpen SO i WOULD

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01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 7: i would Flip junk And meyer, Personally.

1298
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah spitting exactly WHAT i was going to reiterate, that

1299
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 3: especially with This Ronnie henriquez, injury you have a not

1300
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: a perfect, replacement but you have someone that can really

1301
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 3: get some right handed hitters out right, away even the

1302
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: two three innings at a, time maybe right Handed Andrew

1303
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: miller type, thing but they're so. Stubborn jeremiah said at

1304
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 3: the fastball, stinks the changeup, stinks the slider is. Great

1305
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 3: when he throwed sixty percent of the, time it's not

1306
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: gonna be that. Elite there's no reason that he shouldn't

1307
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 3: be in the, bullpen especially Pushed junk into the. Bullpen

1308
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 3: No junk should be in the rotation along With Yuri

1309
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: paddock And Sandy. BRAX i, mean he was someone THAT

1310
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: i get scared for him to face the lineup a

1311
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: third time. Through i'm sure The martins feel the same.

1312
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 3: Way great guy's been in this organization since twenty. Sixteen

1313
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 3: you let him compete for a, spot you let a

1314
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: couple other, guys BUT i think they're putting a lot

1315
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: of their eggs in The Robbie snelling basket here and

1316
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 3: hoping that he can really perform the way that they

1317
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: think he. Can but if he, doesn't they're they're gonna

1318
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: have a really tough time getting innings eaten because the

1319
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 3: depth is not where it was last.

1320
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 9: Year traded, two you traded forty percent of your.

1321
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 3: Rotation but, NO i agree that even with this limited

1322
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: starting pitching, death Put mac To meyer in a late

1323
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: any bullpen roll and see what happens with him And

1324
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: fairbanks And Tyler phillips at the back.

1325
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 9: End you shortened games that. Way it's playing and. Simple

1326
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 9: you shortened the.

1327
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: Game and just to be stubborn about, this it's just

1328
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: so irritating to.

1329
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 9: Me but what DO i.

1330
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: Know somebody's gotta in reference.

1331
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 3: To Let Max smyer be hoing and that's the Best

1332
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: Brian holing you're ever gonna.

1333
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: Have and also With Max.

1334
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 7: Meyer to wrap things up On, max when he was

1335
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 7: at The university Of, minnesota he had closers. EXPERIENCE i

1336
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 7: know it's college, baseball but it's. Different he was hitting

1337
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 7: one hundred miles an hour ninety nine one hundred miles an.

1338
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 7: Hour scout said at the time his fastball was one

1339
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 7: of the best in that draft, class just in terms

1340
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 7: of pure velocity AND i think if he moved to

1341
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 7: a one or two inning, role Like isaac was, saying

1342
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 7: in the back half of that, bullpen he's gonna be

1343
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 7: throwing ninety eight ninety, nine assuming the arm and shoulders,

1344
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 7: healthy and that's gonna be better even without the movement

1345
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 7: than what is it, now ninety, three ninety, four ninety,

1346
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 7: five but like ninety five to ninety.

1347
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: Nine give Me max in the.

1348
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 10: Pen, YEAH i, MEAN i think the arm slat would

1349
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 10: change a little. BIT i think that's what Aj puck

1350
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 10: did a couple of years.

1351
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: Back it's a no brainer, Too like does anyone, here

1352
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: what would anyone here prefer backtimyding the rotation versus opening

1353
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: the season with anyone here The?

1354
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 10: Marlins? Right?

1355
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah in his, defense just he was he was so

1356
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: good the first few weeks of last year as a.

1357
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: Starter it was it's it to me what it's really

1358
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: the moving. Forward it's the combination of the inconsistencies and

1359
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: the durability concerns and The marlins. Trides from the very,

1360
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: beginning that was the question about. Him can he's relative

1361
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: by baseball, standards relatively thin six foot pitcher maybe six

1362
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: feet might be, generous maybe five to eleven and a.

1363
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 2: Half the fact that somebody at this, size what's their

1364
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: stamina going to be like within starts and what is

1365
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: their work clud going to be over the course of

1366
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: a whole, season and that durability, question there's has not

1367
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: been any clear indication that it's going to turn around

1368
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: from him in that, regard and by going to the,

1369
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: bullpen that just means that the baseline expectations for how

1370
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: many innings you're gonna throw is lower and then at

1371
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: the same time able to exert more effort during that

1372
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: period of time without causing real damage to one part

1373
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: of your. Body it's been the, elbow it's been the.

1374
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: Hip most recently in between was the. Shoulder it was

1375
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: the shoulder in twenty twenty four that ended his.

1376
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 4: Seat, Right so you got injury history and you have

1377
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 4: the fact that you're probably not probably you are better

1378
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 4: when you're you, know throwing your. Hardest right in terms

1379
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 4: of this player when and he's getting limited, looks Like isaac,

1380
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 4: said if you're throwing a sliders sixty percent of the

1381
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 4: time and guys are getting two and three looks out

1382
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 4: of you're probably going to get.

1383
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 6: Hammered.

1384
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 4: Right so all that into consideration and the fact That

1385
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 4: Jensen junk is literally one of the better control, pitchers

1386
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: not the, best best stuff, pitchers but one of the

1387
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 4: better control pit which is probably in baseball in terms

1388
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 4: of controlling the baseball where it, goes knowing where it,

1389
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 4: goes Whereas meyer sometimes probably doesn't with some of his.

1390
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 4: PITCHES i think that's a no brain, Moves isaac, SAID i.

1391
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 4: DON'T i don't understand either why they continue to hold

1392
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 4: on To max as a.

1393
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 6: STARTER i liked the pick of.

1394
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 4: HIM i liked him getting a shot at, starting but

1395
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 4: as we, said he like undersized injury, history needs limited,

1396
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: looks struggles when he goes multiple times through the, order

1397
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 4: has one elite pitch and the other two are in fact,

1398
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 4: Good it's a no brain.

1399
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 6: Move meyer should be in the.

1400
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: BULLPEN i know we're way over, time but the last

1401
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: Thing i'll say on this is that the off the

1402
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 3: record answer that The marlins would probably give is that

1403
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: does he have more value when the rotation or in

1404
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: the starting road or in the.

1405
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 6: Bullpen, well of course anybody has more valor.

1406
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: Roone this is a number three overall, pick AND i

1407
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: remember having this. ARGUMENT i think it was A kyle sea.

1408
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 4: Lot but sometimes draft picks don't reach their ceiling and

1409
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 4: they have to be okay with it.

1410
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 3: Exactly and so they're just so adamant even if he,

1411
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: stinks in, hey he's more.

1412
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 9: Valuable they're all, assets these.

1413
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: Guys they are assets WHO i think performance wise takes

1414
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 3: a back seat to just what gives them the most.

1415
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 3: Value we saw that with obvious Seen ramis behind the

1416
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: plate last. Year they don't care he's more valuable as a,

1417
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: catcher give me, though literally.

1418
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 9: By f war he was less.

1419
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 3: Valuable but they want to have their high draft, picks

1420
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 3: their higher value. GUYS i don't know where he ranked

1421
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 3: on eli's list of highest valued players in the. ORGANIZATION

1422
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: i don't think very. High but whether it's they think

1423
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: they can follow each, other you, know Like junk starts the,

1424
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: Game meyer finishes, it or finishes the first six innings.

1425
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 9: Whatever maybe, well and that's what they were doing With.

1426
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 10: That's what they were doing With, quantrill or like when

1427
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 10: it got really bad with, him like they would Put

1428
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 10: Jansen junk to come. In remember that game In anaheim

1429
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 10: where we're colvinch like three innings and Then junk kind

1430
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 10: of finished it.

1431
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 9: Off the rest of the. Way BUT i think it.

1432
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 10: Gets to a point where you're more valuable in the

1433
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 10: bullpen than as a, Starter and that could be the

1434
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 10: case With. Max as much as you want to say

1435
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 10: he's more valuable as a, starter it's gonna get to

1436
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 10: a point where he's getting kind of hit so hard

1437
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 10: as a starter and it's just not going well for.

1438
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 10: Him but you're gonna have to put him in the,

1439
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 10: bullpen and and that's when who, knows, man maybe one

1440
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 10: two winning outings For max could probably be the best

1441
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 10: thing that could happen for. Him you could throw. Harder

1442
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 10: As jeremiah, noted like it kind of speaks for. Itself

1443
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 10: they're gonna have him. Start they're GONNA i feel like

1444
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 10: this is gonna be this last. Shot if at the

1445
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 10: guests at doing, this and the leash won't be very.

1446
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 10: Long if he gets off to a bad, start he's

1447
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 10: gonna go to the bullpen And junk would, start Or

1448
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 10: Robbie snelling would be called. Up but this this has

1449
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 10: got to be his last, shot AND i think he'd

1450
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 10: be a pretty good, reliever as you guys have already

1451
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 10: noted many.

1452
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:50,120
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Speaker 2: earlier in the stream where he just uh he won

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Speaker 3: Along so, yeah he did get a New davison got

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Speaker 3: so but you did get a new tattoo Showing brian

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Speaker 2: streams next week for, sure on a date to be.

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Speaker 2: stream it in all the usual. Places so thanks again

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