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Speaker 1: into the NFL Fantasy Live podcast. James go here with you.

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Speaker 1: Joined alongside on this beautiful Monday morning by the Whiskid

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Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, Alex Gelhars in the building, Alex, what's going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? The football was pretty good yesterday? It

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Speaker 1: was that that I mean, my my Jags are Jaggs lost,

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Speaker 1: then uh, Nick Foles decided to go full Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: It was outrageous. He was amazing those Some of those

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Speaker 1: there was there was a throw where I said, I

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Speaker 1: the kid in my house. I was like, that is

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Speaker 1: one of the best throws you'll ever see. And I

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Speaker 1: he's where he's pumping and he's kind of rolling out

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Speaker 1: then he gets it out and you're just like, how

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Speaker 1: is this possible? What is this guy doing? It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: He was great. Matt Harmon, what's going on? Man? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: per just to come back on the false thing, per pff,

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Speaker 1: nick Foles had a one two point one quarterback rating

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Speaker 1: when he was under pressure, perniction. That's he had a

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Speaker 1: stuff yesterday. Yeah, it was. It was really fun. I

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's I mean a little disappointing, like the

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Speaker 1: afternoon game was a bit of a buller. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean for sure, but I mean, especially the early

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Speaker 1: disappointed in the Super Bowl matchup we're getting, but it

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Speaker 1: was not what I would have preferred. But nevertheless, I mean,

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Speaker 1: going to crush Philadelphia. Oh stop, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I believe that. I don't know if I okay,

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Speaker 1: don't know why. I'm really like, it's like resistance is

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Speaker 1: futile just because you gotta give it. You gotta give

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Speaker 1: the Eagles chance. They have no chance they're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: You said that, you said that Jags had no chance either,

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Speaker 1: and they led for most of the games. They left

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Speaker 1: from the day gave it away, but didn't happen. It

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Speaker 1: did happen. Let me look at the numbers. Yeah, damnit.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots one. Yeah, I don't know the franchise to man,

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Speaker 1: I'm still recovering. It was nice Sunday. As much as

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Speaker 1: like I said last I wasn't here last Thursday, but

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Speaker 1: last Monday when we were all predicting these games, you

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Speaker 1: gotta kind of sit back and just you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: they're both are coordinators, probably gonna be gone. I'm probably

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that intended to, but you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of soaking it up. Okay, Producer, Chris, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Many what's up guys. Happy Monday too? Yeah? Feeling good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: feeling good. I had. I enjoyed the games as well, obviously,

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Speaker 1: the first one much better than the second one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: believe it, didn't want to accept it, but just you

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Speaker 1: He played really really the moment was not too big

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Speaker 1: All right, so we got a great show in from

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Speaker 1: us here today. We're gonna give you a little recap,

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Speaker 1: a little mini recap on the East West Shrine game. There, Okay, listen,

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Speaker 1: a little excited. You you love football. You clocked some

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Speaker 1: forty times. You're you're a football guy. I looked at

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Speaker 1: you your biggest disappointments on twenty seventeen. It's a great

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Speaker 1: piece written by Alex gal Hard. We're gonna talk about Look,

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Speaker 1: he's got a lot of guys. All right, fifteen names

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Speaker 1: he's got. We're not going to delve into all of them.

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Speaker 1: I'll redirect you to the website. But J. A. G.

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Speaker 1: I and Dez Bryant and Jordy Nelson our names we

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Speaker 1: shall discuss today on today's show. We'll close out with

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Speaker 1: a round of daily DAPs. But we start your show

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Speaker 1: as we always do, with your top fantasy headlines, breaking news,

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Speaker 1: news heard learns. Uh let's start. Let's star of that

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. Harmon participated in a drop Hey what's up, guys,

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Speaker 1: New Year knew me? Hashtag shoot hasht front Okay, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots for the Patriots, they're going to their eighth Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl of the Brady Belichick era. Is it the eighth

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Speaker 1: overall overall FA in sixteen years since like two thousand? Amazing?

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Speaker 1: So embarrassing. It's almost like embarrassing the league, right it is.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of Humilian's It's a league that's that is

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Speaker 1: based on parody, and there are and rules in place

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Speaker 1: to to prevent these type of things, and yet they continue,

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Speaker 1: Yet they keep doing it. And I don't understand. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand how we're you know, we're in the middle

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about yeah, I said, Brown's okay, good talking anyway.

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Speaker 1: So it just it just blows my mind still that

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Speaker 1: you guys can't break out of your damn ways and

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Speaker 1: try something different, Like give me a break. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give my analogy of what the Patriots are doing, which is,

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Speaker 1: to me, they're like they're a little bit like Floyd Mayweather.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots unquestioned greatness. You could certainly make a case

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Speaker 1: just like you can make a very strong case that

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Speaker 1: Floyd made Weather is the greatest boxer of all time.

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Speaker 1: Mayweather had to do it by bending the rules, and

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Speaker 1: again a case could be made, I think, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: That's just my also real quick to dry right back

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Speaker 1: fifteen years now, because since two thousand three, four quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Brady Manning and Mr Elite himself, Joe Flacco, and only

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Speaker 1: five teams just because Manning flips right, that's right, that's right. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: it's a little that's a little Stacks in their family.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you know you're great when you're presented

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Speaker 1: with the a f C Championship trophy and you take

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Speaker 1: oh my god. Part of it didn't even somebody offered

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Speaker 1: Brady and a f C Championship hat. He's like, no, bro,

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I don't wear this. It is like a

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Speaker 1: mindset thing too, for sure. I mean they accepted that

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, it's crazy. It's just crazy. It's it's

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Speaker 1: it is really unbelievably impressive, and I'm kind of like,

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Speaker 1: By the way, that Tom Brady hand injury and what

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Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski did leave this game with a concussion. I

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Speaker 1: of sort of adds to the Tom Brady um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the legend, the Loure right, the fact that he's able

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Speaker 1: to do it without his best offensive player. Also, I

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Speaker 1: Mendola always steps up in the postseason. It's crazy guy

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Speaker 1: takes a pay cut after pay cut after three years

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Speaker 1: in a row, just brings his lunch pail right to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs every year. You know that touchdown he caught

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Speaker 1: moves here or who becomes healthy, because there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity and a lot of volume that

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Speaker 1: could turn into some nice fantasy success. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about some of the coaching changes that we've seen again.

426
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Bates named the O c there for New York.

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel name the Titans head man. They're keeping that

428
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Speaker 1: Patriots thing going there in Tennessee. It's the Music City Pats.

429
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Speaker 1: Mike Verbel the new UH head coach there in Tennessee.

430
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Speaker 1: Ryan Day is an offensive coordinator candidate. I don't know

431
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Speaker 1: if we know anything about Mike. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: defensive guy, you know what I mean. So, um, he

433
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Speaker 1: was a star on Hard Knocks. He was a star

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Speaker 1: on Our Knocks as well. He was most recently with

435
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Speaker 1: Houston on their coaching staff as well. So DC, right, yeah,

436
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: I was either DC. He was there, he was an assistant,

437
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Speaker 1: and then he took Romeo Cornell's place as the defense

438
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Speaker 1: the Romeo stayed on and now Romeo is back as

439
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Speaker 1: a d C in Houston. In Houston. Yeah, well it's

440
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Speaker 1: a quick rise for Vrabel, like he just retired in

441
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Speaker 1: two thousand, like July two thousand eleven to be the

442
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Speaker 1: linebackers coach at Ohio State. That it is a pretty

443
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Speaker 1: quick turnaround to then being the name name the head coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean it feels like just a couple of seasons

445
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Speaker 1: ago of Rabel was catching touchdowns for the Patriots. They've

446
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Speaker 1: got some former New England executives there in the front

447
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: office for Tennessee, which is again why we're why I

448
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: joke around about how and in their and their candidates too, right,

449
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: was it was either gonna be Mike Vrabel or um

450
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Speaker 1: uh the the offensive coordinator for the Daniels. I think

451
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Speaker 1: it's always gonna be able to once once they realized

452
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Speaker 1: McDaniels was kind of out of the out of the

453
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Speaker 1: out of the situation, like it wasn't gonna happen, then

454
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Speaker 1: it looked like it was gonna be for Abel. But

455
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Speaker 1: I think the fast and you know, the head coaching

456
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Speaker 1: season is so far because we always look like people

457
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Speaker 1: will look back on his defense this year that being

458
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Speaker 1: for and be like, well it was lasting points per

459
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Speaker 1: game or whatever. But like, who can't it just head

460
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Speaker 1: coaches so much about like being the CEO of the team.

461
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: It does look like Verbel has that personality. But I

462
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Speaker 1: do think his offensive coordinator higher is going to be

463
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Speaker 1: the most interesting part of this, And like, like like where

464
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Speaker 1: his head's at already? Yeah, for sure, because right away

465
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Speaker 1: when I saw it, I was like, well, he used

466
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Speaker 1: to play for Todd Haley. Maybe with the Chiefs there

467
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Speaker 1: towards the end, maybe that's gonna be a candidate. Um.

468
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Speaker 1: You know, there is like some other guys out there,

469
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Speaker 1: like John d Filippo or whatever, but it looks like

470
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Speaker 1: this guy, Ryan Day, who's the co offensive coordinator at

471
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Speaker 1: Ohio State right now, he has history with Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 1: He used to play for him at the University of

473
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Speaker 1: New Hampshire. UM. He was a quarterback coach with Kelly

474
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Speaker 1: when he was the San Francisco for the Niner's head coach. UM.

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Speaker 1: And that's interesting obviously because Marcus Mariota that he has

476
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Speaker 1: history with Chip Kelly and they were one of the

477
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Speaker 1: slowest paced teams under Mike Malarkey. So I definitely agree.

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Speaker 1: I like where his head's at with this, with this interview,

479
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Speaker 1: like it instantaneously that when variable came in and this,

480
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Speaker 1: like you said, the head coaches to sometimes be the

481
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Speaker 1: CEO and be the leader and like instill confidence and

482
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Speaker 1: and that demeanor in the team, and I think Vrabel

483
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: seems to have all those things. But right away, you

484
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Speaker 1: look at this offense last year and we all moaned

485
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Speaker 1: about it and complained that they hired Malarkey and it

486
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Speaker 1: was not what suited uh Marcus Mariota. And then right away,

487
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Speaker 1: uh Vrabel comes in his head coach and they're looking

488
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Speaker 1: at a college candidate who ran an offense that was fast,

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Speaker 1: that was multiple, that had the quarterbacks running, that had

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Speaker 1: a lot of creativity and a lot of juice to it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, let's go. I like, I

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Speaker 1: like where this, where this is that? And hopefully they

493
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Speaker 1: can they can lock him down and I'm excited to

494
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Speaker 1: see what he what he does with that offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm I was actually surprised by the transformation that um

496
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Speaker 1: that Ohio State has had over the last couple of years.

497
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Speaker 1: A lot more R P O s and UM a

498
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Speaker 1: lot less power run game as well. Uh look, anytime

499
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Speaker 1: you gotta they got a great head coach there, and

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Speaker 1: he knows what exactly what he's doing. And but but

501
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Speaker 1: the offense did look a little bit different over the

502
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, so um, a lot more spread

503
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Speaker 1: as well. So I'm i'm um, if he gets that

504
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Speaker 1: o C job, I'd be interested in what the Tennessee

505
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Speaker 1: Titans might bring to the table there. And and one

506
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Speaker 1: more note to like you said for throw out the

507
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Speaker 1: fact that or whatever, who cares that Rabel let a

508
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Speaker 1: low ranked defense, Like I totally agree with that because

509
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Speaker 1: it's very different. Also, Frabel had a ton of injuries

510
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Speaker 1: on his defense, uh, losing J. J. Watt and Whitney

511
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Speaker 1: Merciless in the same game. That's that's a little rough.

512
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Speaker 1: But like a lot of coordinators have come are a

513
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Speaker 1: lot of people have come from like bad coordinator jobs

514
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Speaker 1: have been good head coaches. Mike McCarthy was the offensive

515
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Speaker 1: coordinator for the thirtieth ranked UH forty Niners offense and

516
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Speaker 1: then for you know, the last several years, Grantedy's at

517
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but been leading one of the highest scoring

518
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Speaker 1: offense in the league. Yeah, and again a lot of

519
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Speaker 1: it comes down to what is how much input does

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Speaker 1: the head coach have you know what I mean. If

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Speaker 1: it's water and oil in terms of offensive philosophies, it

522
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Speaker 1: just is not gonna work. Right, So how much input

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Speaker 1: does the does the does the head coach have? Uh?

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Speaker 1: In the defensive side, we don't We're not exactly sure.

525
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Speaker 1: But but the bottom line was, man, the the the

526
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Speaker 1: ceiling caved in on the Texas this season anyways, know

527
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So I don't know, you could kind

528
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Speaker 1: of put away their defensive numbers and their offensive numbers

529
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Speaker 1: really from seen, we gotta look at what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do next year. Also, it's it's tough to stop people

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Speaker 1: from scoring when you're always on the field because Tom

532
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Speaker 1: Savage isn't moving the football or putting up points. Um.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Patremer expected to take that the Giants job,

534
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Speaker 1: I don't know if have they officially announced that. I mean,

535
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Speaker 1: it's the worst kept secret in the business. Obviously, the

536
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Speaker 1: Pat Chrember is gonna be there. It just might not

537
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Speaker 1: be there. All the kings are done, it's all agreed upon,

538
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Speaker 1: but there just wasn't like ink on the page. Yeah right, right,

539
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Speaker 1: So Patremer expects to take that New York job, and

540
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a little flip flop here. Maybe maybe

541
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Speaker 1: Ben mculdoo takes the o C job. Can he just

542
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Speaker 1: go to the woods for like ten years? He could

543
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Speaker 1: he go hike with Hillary and yeah, oh my god.

544
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Speaker 1: Um well it's so it's so funny too because it

545
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Speaker 1: looks like he's going to get a job somewhere. The

546
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Speaker 1: fact he's that, this is rumored that he brown with

547
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Speaker 1: the browns, It sounds like he'll get a job. I mean,

548
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Speaker 1: he was a decent o C. I guess as long

549
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Speaker 1: as we don't have to look at him as much

550
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: as I don't have to look at him for the

551
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: last three years, that's that's stupid. Haircut is fair, those sunglasses,

552
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: his walkie talkies and his big suit. Deat Ben mcado

553
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: out of my life. Get him out of him to

554
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: a dark room to watch film, that's fine, but don't

555
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: don't let him talk to the press. I hope in

556
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Speaker 1: the booth. Yeah, sit up in the booth, dark booth,

557
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: no lighting. Yeah, those boots are pretty dimly lit. I'm

558
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: sick of this guy. I am sick of Really, I

559
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: couldn't I couldn't tell based on the last two minutes

560
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: of the pod with you just railing against bod How

561
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Speaker 1: can anyone get excited about him being hired right now?

562
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Speaker 1: I don't know who, I don't know. It's tough because

563
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Speaker 1: the offense, the offense he put out New York last

564
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: years was bad. Yeah, I know. The only times it

565
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: was good was when Odell Beckham was on the field.

566
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Speaker 1: That's right, that's it. Yeah, the only time. So, like,

567
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Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. If he replaces Pat Schirmer as the

568
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Speaker 1: vikings o CE like, that will be terrible. I will

569
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 1: be so upset. It's a similar philosophy though, I mean,

570
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: they're both West Coast offense guys. And Stefan Digg said.

571
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Speaker 1: Dig said something to O b J about Pat Turmer

572
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: coming to New York, being like, oh, you're gonna have

573
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: like exciting routes running all that stuff. Cool. Now you're

574
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: gonna send me Ben mcindoon, the worst trade NFL. Stop this.

575
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: We'll send you, We'll send you. You send us Ben mcindo. Yeah,

576
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Speaker 1: have fun with that. See you later. Fired up says

577
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: right now on a Monday, and it's not even about

578
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: his vikings are going to go to for running back

579
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: committee and Dalwin Cooks can have no value. It's gonna

580
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: be terrible. Wow, listen besten to this podcast. I hope

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Speaker 1: he does. I hope he does. I hope he does.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's also on the radar, according to rap Sheet,

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Speaker 1: is Mike McCoy, the former Chartres head coach and replaced

584
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: to please That would be a big gut. I'd be

585
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: cool with that, Mike. Mike McCoy flamed out this year

586
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: pretty quickly with the old Broncos. But I have always

587
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: kind of liked Mike McCoy, who's assistant in Carolina. He's good.

588
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: He's had some good coordinator years too. Broncos didn't have

589
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback either, they had a quarterback contra. It's just

590
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: it's just kind of it's a little fishy that he

591
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: was ousted so quickly in the middle of the year.

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Speaker 1: That's well. I mean, also, if you look back at

593
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Speaker 1: that Broncos team, it seemed like Elway was looking for

594
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: scapegoats left and right for what was wrong. I think

595
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: there was a look at the mirror John Elway, well,

596
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Speaker 1: you know he did after the season, when you know

597
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: he had thrown everybody under the bus, and I was like, oh, crap,

598
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Speaker 1: I guess I kind of put us up s creak

599
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: without a paddle here. I'm gonna either gonna run myself

600
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Speaker 1: over the bus or Van Joseph with the bus. And

601
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Speaker 1: I can't run over Vance because then I'm kind of

602
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: by proxy running myself over with the bus because he's

603
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Speaker 1: my guy. So I guess let's just update the bus exploded. Um,

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Speaker 1: you're Matt harm to your point about Ben mcindo, You're right,

605
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: they did both run West Coast. Um, you know, uh schemes, right,

606
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: but it's it's different because Pat Shermer is so creative

607
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: in terms of formation and um. And that was the

608
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Speaker 1: one thing about Ben mcadoo's offense is that Okay, you're

609
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Speaker 1: getting twelve personnel. Okay, we get that, but guys aren't

610
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: moving around. Yeah no, that was that was the thing.

611
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Speaker 1: And especially in two thousand sixteen, they ran eleven. Everybody

612
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Speaker 1: runs eleven personnel for the most part, three privacy was

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Speaker 1: on the field, but they ran, they ran saying it

614
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: was yes, yeah, so the super predictable. Uh. To be

615
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: fair though, and I really don't want to be the

616
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Speaker 1: guy caping up for Ben McAdoo and I'm not, but

617
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Speaker 1: just but just to present kind of a counterpoint like Shermer,

618
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Speaker 1: that was would have been this guy that we're doing

619
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Speaker 1: this for like three years ago, because he really flamed

620
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Speaker 1: out as the Brown's offensive at Brown's head coach, who

621
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: hasn't right, but nothing, I mean nothing good was coming

622
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Speaker 1: out of him, like from from that tenure. He was

623
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: very just And some guys are much better when they

624
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Speaker 1: go back to just a coordinator role, like you see

625
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: some guys thrive as that. But even McAdoo, like his

626
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: tenure as the Packers offensive coordinator was very brief and

627
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't as prolific as the previous previous offenses before

628
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Speaker 1: he assumed that job, and then his offenses in New

629
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: York weren't great, so that that to me is what

630
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: leaves the bigger question. But m and McNew was the

631
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Speaker 1: guy too like that they wanted to keep in New

632
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Speaker 1: York because his first year there they really felt like

633
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: he helped salvage e Lie Manning and they we can't

634
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: let this guy go. We can't, we can't lose this guy.

635
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: So it's just that these things changed so quickly with

636
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: with head coaches and and guys like Shermer do evolve

637
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: and grow. And you know, because he went he went

638
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: from being kind of a restrict West Coast guy. He

639
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: worked under Chip Kelly in Philadelphia for a little bit,

640
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: then he goes to Minnesota and I don't know, I

641
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: just I'm not trying to keep up for Ben mcdew

642
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: but just these things changed quickly. Wasn't even at the

643
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: beginning of last year. It was my guy North. Oh yeah,

644
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: my guy speaking of the speaking on music producer North

645
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: music superstar songwriter, sorry, not producer. That's that's Bill Vof

646
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: from Panthers dot com. Boo, I used to work for Bill,

647
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: so I used to work for Bill, but yeah, so

648
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: he It would be shocked if Steve Wilkes does not

649
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: land the Cardinals head coaching position. And there's been a

650
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: lot of rumors there. Yeah, our our own guys rap

651
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: Sheet and Garofolo also are saying or Gara Folo are

652
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: saying that that he's emerged as a clear favorite too.

653
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: Just this morning, that's come out. Okay, there you go. Uh,

654
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: Brian Floor, who's Brian Flora. Brian Flores is the Patriots

655
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: linebackers coach. He is also he was kind of a favorite.

656
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: He was a potential guy for this for this game.

657
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: But it also sounds like he could be the DC

658
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: for New England when Matt Patricia eventually moves on too.

659
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: But he's kind of a hot name under the like

660
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: under the radars or younger younger, I somebody to watch war.

661
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll be talking. He's probably not gonna get

662
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: this job, obviously with Steve Wilkes um being being the

663
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: favorite there, but he's someone to watch going forward and

664
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: for for the Panthers. I I will continue to harp

665
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: on on this point. But July two thousand six or

666
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, whatever year we're in right now, July

667
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, the Panthers had when that month opened,

668
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: they had Jerry Richardson as their owner, Dave Gettlman as

669
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: the general manager, Ron Rivera as the head coach. Um

670
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator was Mike Schula. Defensive coordinator was Steve Wilkes.

671
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: The only one of those that will retain that position

672
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: to calendar year later is Ron Rivera. That's a lot

673
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: of turnover in in one year for a club that

674
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: was just in constant off the field sort of turmoil.

675
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: Very fascinating. That's a that's a good point, and I

676
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: didn't realize that You're right, there's been so much change

677
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: up top. That's crazy. That is crazy. All right, I'll

678
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: give you a very quick recap on the East West

679
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: Shrine game. All right, the combine, I'm gonna take a

680
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: bathroom break. Okay, Well, did you go back on tender Lands?

681
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: Very unfair? Don't you have some excess to look up

682
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: on Facebook? Very unfair attack. Uh. The NFL scouting combine,

683
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: remember is March second through the fifth. But March second

684
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: through the fifth and you will be beat over the

685
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: head with when this scouting combine. What happened? But it's

686
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: happening that. I'll give you a little quick East West

687
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Rine game recap here. JT. Barrett was was there. He

688
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: was starting quarterback for one of the teams there. He

689
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: did not look great. It kind of hurt his stock

690
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess he was great during practices,

691
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: that's what the reports saying. So I don't simes. I'm

692
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: sure he will have a great forty time actually, but

693
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: that being said, a little bit undersized, not a great

694
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: arm and UM a lot of question marks as to

695
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: whether or not he could play quarterback at the next level.

696
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: But again in UM, in what was basically an exhibition game,

697
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: he didn't look great. But that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

698
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: But during practices report look looked pretty good. So there

699
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: you go. Uh, Derese found too, alright. So Derese Fountain,

700
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: this is a name that you're gonna that you're gonna

701
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: hear about again. Um. He's a wide receiver from Northern Iowa.

702
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: If you've heard of that school before it because that's

703
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: where David Johnson went to school. But he's a wide

704
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: receiver from Northern Iowa. He showed explosiveness in this game.

705
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: A lot of reports that he showed explosiveness during practices

706
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: during the week as well. Uh. Senior season there at

707
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: Northern Iowa. Sixty six receptions, nine forty three yards and

708
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns in his senior campaign. Um for Northern Iowa. There,

709
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: But Derese Fountain, this is a name you're absolutely gonna

710
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: hear again. Still a little bit of a project wide receiver,

711
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: but got good size, got good speed as well. Um,

712
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: and showed explosiveness throughout And a lot of folks were

713
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: writting about, Uh, Derese Fountain throughout the East West practices

714
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: as well. How about Philip Lindsay from Colorado. Now he

715
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: got some buzzes well, but how about him from a

716
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: fantasy perspective, I probably wouldn't get too excited. Five eight

717
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds again great speed. Showed a lot of

718
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: explosiveness uh in the game and during practices as well.

719
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Highly productive in college. I told you I looked at

720
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: the numbers, guys, Uh, thirty four seventy six in terms

721
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: of total yards, so about seventeen hundred yards per year

722
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: over his last two years. He's a receiver, He's a

723
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: he's a running back. He's a five eight, five eight

724
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: one ninety. He's a water bug. He's a water bug,

725
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: five eight one ninety running back. Damn. Seventeen hundred uh

726
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: total yards. That's what he averaged over his last two

727
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: seasons Colorado. But again got a little bit of buzz.

728
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Probably won't make water bugs will do that. There you go.

729
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some biggest disappointments for twenty seventeen.

730
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: It's a great piece written by Alex Gillhard. You can

731
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: find the entire list NFL dot com slash gil Hart.

732
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: We'll dive into three names here and we'll start with

733
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: j G. I has he is about to make a

734
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance here? Yes, uh so for the piece two.

735
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: I had some fun with it. It did. Uh. There's

736
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: a little section on the seventeen expectations, seventeen reality and

737
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: then reasons for optimism in trying you know, put a

738
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: positive spin people happy with an exclamation point at the Alright,

739
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: so seventeen expectations. In twenty sixteen, j j I went

740
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: from the inn active list in Week one to the

741
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. By the season's end, sky was the limit.

742
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, he'd received all of the touches and nothing

743
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: stopping him from a massive statistical campaign. Seventeen reality. Uh,

744
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: and a totally unexpected turn of events. Ck Jay Cutler's

745
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: on retirement did not go as planned. Js I did

746
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: receive all the touches in Miami twenty two per game,

747
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: but failed to score a touchdown in each of his

748
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: first seven games. Was traded to the Eagles, joined a committee,

749
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, now he's going to the Super Bowl.

750
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: Was going to the Super Bowl. What a crazy career

751
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: for when you think about just these last two just

752
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: these two years, I mean he would from again didn't

753
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: fly with the team in the Pro Bowl to the

754
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Then he's widely regarded as a top you know,

755
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: eight or ten running back in fantasy completely busted and

756
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: then got traded. We're talking about a prob less than

757
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: a year after making the Pro Bowl. The dude gets traded.

758
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: You don't see that that often in the NFL. Uh,

759
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: it was a wild year. So it's very disappointing. I mean,

760
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: did he did still have a couple of nice weeks,

761
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: Like he had a few usable weeks in Philadelphia. He

762
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: had a couple of weeks where he had you know,

763
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: like thirty touches in a hundred and twenty yards in

764
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. But by and large, your

765
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: second round pick. Huge disappointment. However, the Eagles offense, uh,

766
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: the backfield is totally up in the air because the

767
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: Garrett Blont was on a one year contract could be gone.

768
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: Darren Sprawles is coming back, is going to try to

769
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: come back potentially from what he breaks. He's broke his

770
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: wrist and towards a c L or something like that.

771
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: Too bad. And he's also like thirty four years old,

772
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: so this could become this could get paired down to

773
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: a two edited committee with a giant and then we

774
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: get Carson Wentz back. This offense is gonna put up

775
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: some points. Both those guys could be in the mix

776
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: touches yesterday, which is the highest, and he's looked great

777
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: in the playoff Blunt just tearing it up. It's it's

778
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: fun to watch the great offensive line too. I mean,

779
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: everything is really in place for big time running back success,

780
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: which is almost like why entering this year it was

781
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: so disappointed that the eaels didn't have that like feature

782
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: like feature back or whatever. And I don't think a

783
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: he's a feature back or whatever because he can't for

784
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: whatever reason, he caught a bazillion passes at Boise State

785
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: can't catch a damn ball in the NFL, to say, unreal,

786
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: But so yeah, it's it's it's that like that argument

787
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: is over. But at this point it is going to

788
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: be a fascinating offense to watch next year, alright. Any

789
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: other thoughts on a Shishu moved to desper Did you

790
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: see the video of a GI on the checkdown that

791
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: was awesome crying on the field, because so it was

792
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: it was awesome. He was just like on his knees

793
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: with his face to the ground and could just see

794
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: his body like as he cried, Like such a cool moment,

795
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: Like imagine being on the Dolphins and getting traded. Now

796
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: you're going to the super Bowl. That's exactly what a

797
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: wild year. So cool. Also, I think I think Matthew

798
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: Barry was the one that tweeted this during that game.

799
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: He said, Man, the Dolphins sure showed a great because

800
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: like Adam Gaze and as I had that like very

801
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: not secretive rift between the two of them. It was

802
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: always like when I was cooking last year, it was

803
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: always felt like they like Gaze kind of let him

804
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: do it, kind of it in Yeah, he'd he'd like

805
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: through gritted teeth, like guys. Damn all right, Dez Bryant.

806
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: This is a sad one expectations and once again full strength.

807
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: As Bryant would return to the twelve yard temples touchdown

808
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: lock fantasy, Dak Prescott would take the next step as

809
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: a passer, and with Ezekiel Elliott facing a possible suspension,

810
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Brian could push for a career high and targets. Law reality,

811
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: we learned the hard way that Briant is no longer

812
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: the same weapon X who can take over games on

813
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: his own. Brian played all Sick Team games and saw

814
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: a hundred thirty plus targets for just the fourth time

815
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: in his career, but posted his lowest catch total a

816
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: nice sixty nine catches and a touchdown total six in

817
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: a season where he hit that target threshold. So yeah,

818
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: that was a bummer. Not quite as optimistic for Dez

819
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: to return to those heights in eighteen. But what what

820
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: do you guys expecten for des Bryant, Well, he has

821
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: said he is not willing to take a pay cut

822
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: this offseason. He's a twelve point five million in two

823
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen and his cap hit is sixteen and a

824
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: half million. And and that's a team that is so

825
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: up against the cap. They're always up against the cap.

826
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: And but also there's a team that does does that

827
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: has never known how to value their players properly, Like

828
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: they always overrate their own talent. That's what they will

829
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: constantly throw out some of these extensions that are very strange.

830
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: And it's it's we've said on this podcast it des

831
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: needs to kind of transition into that Hines Ward Larry

832
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald sort of role. You know what Reggie Wayne did

833
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: later in his career, Like some of these great number

834
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: one received have accepted that. And you know, an Kwon

835
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: Bolden is a great example, and they've played until they're

836
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: like ancient. Des is not ancient. I mean, I think right,

837
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: I think he's twenty nine, right, he is twenty nine

838
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: right now. He will be thirty in the middle of

839
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: next season, so he needs to kind of accept that.

840
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: But that statement sounds like you're not ready to accept.

841
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't think the coach Jerry Jones even said I

842
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: think that that there's nothing wrong with Dez or whatever.

843
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: So I have no idea. It kind of depends on

844
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: how they I think we'll know more by their moves

845
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: in the off season, like in the draft, right, if

846
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: they chase another number one receiver or whatever, or just

847
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: some young player to come in there. But I think

848
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: the days of Dez as an elite number one receiver

849
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: are well behind us. I think the days of Dezu

850
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: as a useful NFL receiver and player, not necessarily real quick,

851
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: just operating obviously, so much could change, but operating an

852
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: assumption that dak Zeke and days are all healthy. At

853
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: the beginning of next year, where do you draft Dez see?

854
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm projecting kind of like a nine hundred yard, eight

855
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: touchdown season. That sounds reasonable, But so again, where where

856
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 1: are you drafting him round eight? Is that probably because

857
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: I mean that's basically what he did this year. That's

858
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: just more touchdowns. James is giving him a bump and touchdowns,

859
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: which if Elliott's back in the offenses coming, Yeah, they'll

860
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: be in more red zone, you know, gold to go opportunities.

861
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: I think I think it it's okay. I mean, look,

862
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: the bottom line is I mean he is still one

863
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: of the most you know, he's a dominant forces I

864
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: mean around the goal line, you know what I'm saying.

865
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: So um, an elite touchdown maker, no doubt. Still, I

866
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: think it's just he can't get separation. But I mean

867
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: when you're down that close, it doesn't separation doesn't matter, right,

868
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: So um those balls, as you mentioned Harmon, he's still

869
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: I think he's still great in that regard UM nine

870
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: and eight. I think that's okay. He's like a boom

871
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: bust wide receiver, totally depend on lex flex play maybe

872
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver too, if you it just would depend on

873
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: the team that I draft with him, like wouldn't want

874
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: to rely on him. Yeah, I think I'd be fascinated

875
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: to see, like when when people start drafting, you know,

876
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: an MFL tens or whatever like where he gets drafted. Yeah,

877
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: that'll be we'll be able to see that people are

878
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: still going Super Bowl. I think people will still draft

879
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: him as a low end wide receiver too. I'm just

880
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: talking speaking about the regular population, you know what I mean.

881
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: But sheep the sheepleep. Well, it's because he's because he's

882
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: got both kind of and he's got two ways you

883
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: could you could spin here. He's got named value obviously

884
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: that's where it's de Bryant. But at the same time,

885
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, cow Boys. But at the same time, it

886
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: sucks to own Dez Bryant. This beast did a lot

887
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: of a lot of people will draft off of racency,

888
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: biased to a lot of casual fans and other players.

889
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, they'll be like so and so burned me

890
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: last year, not going to touch hiout that that's what happened,

891
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: talking girl. Yeah, there you go. I don't I would

892
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: draft in a twelve team where I draft him as

893
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: a flex and I'd feel pretty good about it. Sixth round,

894
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, so I think I think six or seventh that, yeah,

895
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: would be cool with that. He's probably a name where

896
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft him. You're gonna not gonna be like

897
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: got Bryant, but like, all right, all right, I got

898
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: if you if you drafted this year's Dez Bryant, if

899
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: you drafted him as a six or seventh round player three,

900
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: you'd be really happy with it because he still brought

901
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: you like a decent floor, because he just got pummeled

902
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: with volume, and you can lock it in for a

903
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: hundred twenty targets, provided that you do not make another

904
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: big move at wide receiver. All right, speaking of wide receivers,

905
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Jody Nelson, well, yeah, we'll get into it. Expectations NFL

906
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: comeback player of the Year and Aaron rodgers favorite target

907
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: would keep father time at bay and rack up another

908
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: monster statistical campaign, easily sailing past a thousand yards and

909
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: posting double digit touchdowns. It looked to be that way reality.

910
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: Things started off okay, as Nelson and Rodgers connected for

911
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: six touchdowns in the first five games, and don't forget

912
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: Nelson missed pretty much percent of one of those because

913
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: he got injured. However, Rogers the broken collar bone in

914
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: Week six shattered the rest of Nelson's fantasy season. He

915
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: failed to post more than thirty five yards or score

916
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: touchdown in any game the rest of the season, by god,

917
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: and and and the part that you left out too

918
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: was the fact that remember when Aaron Rodgers back, Everyone's like, oh,

919
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: fire up Jordy again, fire up that train. And it didn't.

920
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: It was one game. I mean, Rodgers didn't underthrow him

921
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: on what should have been a touchdown. It is what

922
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: it is. Did it happen? No, it did not. So

923
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: but I mean the bottom line was, you're right, he

924
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: did miss him on that one particular throw. But Rodgers

925
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily looking for him, and there wasn't There wasn't

926
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: separation either. There has. There has been a changing of

927
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: the guard now in the Green Bay office, and much

928
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: like Jordy and Hilson did to Greg Jennings several years ago,

929
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: becoming the usurping him is the number one. Davante Adams

930
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: is the new number one now. However, reasons for optimism

931
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: for Jordy if he restructures excuse me, or stays around.

932
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: He started to transition a little more to the slot.

933
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: If Rogers is there, that's all that matters for Jody

934
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Nelson's fantasy value, Okay, is it? I mean, he didn't

935
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: do damn thing with him he caught six touchdowns in

936
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: five games to start the season. That's what That's what

937
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, it's what's the projections here. Jordan's not

938
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: going to be I don't think a second round pick anymore.

939
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: But I'd still say he's a top five round pick

940
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: and you're getting him as like a touchdown. Is he

941
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: also a nine eight guy? He's I'd say he's more

942
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: maybe like a like a seven, eight, ten or eleven

943
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of guy where he under under probably probably probably

944
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: the under. But but honestly like they have a connection

945
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: and Rogers looks to him in the red zone, like

946
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: Jordan put will he though in the future, I don't

947
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: know if he will. Why would he turn away from

948
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: because he's got, he's done, He's good, he's dead, He's

949
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna be not He's not good anymore. He might he

950
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: might be cooked. I mean he say, I just I

951
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: feel like he might be cooked if I cooked last year. Yeah,

952
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. He bounced back. I revisited my

953
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: reception perception on him, if the like when looking at

954
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: this and like he was poor numbers across the board

955
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: definitely definitely got better as the season went on, coming

956
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: back from the injury. Him moving into the slot definitely

957
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: helps with some of these concerns too. But I don't know, Man,

958
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: they also have an out from they could cut him too.

959
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: I think Rogers is gonna loll be hard to keep

960
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: him though. I think they maybe they restructured or something.

961
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, they'll restructure. I don't think he's

962
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: gonna stay at his cap hit. I mean they could

963
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: go cold blooded and get rid of him and or Cob.

964
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: But if if Jordie, if Jordy stays, I think he'll

965
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: still be a reasonable fantasy pick because he's just gonna

966
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: be He's just gonna be a touchdown guy. He's gonna

967
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: be more like a tight end in your wide receiver spot,

968
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: but one that gets a lot of red zone looks.

969
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: Thinks the case, I'm gonna that's a hard pass for me,

970
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: But I can't. I don't know if I can do that.

971
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean, a guy who's gonna get seven and seven, Like,

972
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm not drafting that. I think the fact that like

973
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: they've turned over the front office, I think that if

974
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: I was the Packers, I would cut ties with both

975
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: Geordie and look to just get younger at more athletic

976
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: more diverse. Just remake that receiver corps with Rogers. The

977
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: dream is over go. We'll see see under where can I?

978
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: Where can I work? In a healthy Rodgers is gonna

979
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: throw forty touchdowns a year. It's not unreasonable that his

980
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: favorite get a red zone guy is gonna get ten.

981
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: Stop living in the past. It's not his favorite target. Okay,

982
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: So let's um. I'm actually I'm actually curious by this

983
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: because so Rodgers is is not a young man four

984
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be No, I think he's he'll be thirty

985
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: three next year. I don't know. We gotta look this

986
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: up either way. He's not a young man, right, So

987
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: you know that you're you got to think that you're

988
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: kind of close. That being said, you really got to

989
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: invest in this defense. You did just turn thirty four.

990
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: You got to you have to invest. So thirty four

991
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: years old, So he's thirty four years old. Do you

992
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: really want to start over with a young group of

993
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: wide receivers because part of his game is anticipation, right,

994
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of what makes him a special player, is

995
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: the anticipation. But the receiver has to be on that

996
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 1: same page. So do you start over with a young

997
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: like you could. You could easily draft guys, right, you could,

998
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: but man, that would take a long time to get

999
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: them up to speed with a thirty four year old quarterback,

1000
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: or bring in veterans. I don't know the fact that

1001
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: they don't have you know, cap Nazi Ted Thompson running

1002
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: the running the front office anymore. Like they've said they

1003
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: will be more active in free agency. I think they

1004
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: could bring in some veterans, and there's a lot a

1005
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: lot of interesting receivers out there, So I don't know.

1006
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: I would just I would just be the need to

1007
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: invest defense. Man, they need to. They're so shallow there.

1008
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: It's just that they've sunk so many draft picks into

1009
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: their defense though James their number one pick for like

1010
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: seven years, has been on defense, Like they've done the

1011
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: first three or four picks on defense every year. So

1012
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: I think the bigger question is if they need to

1013
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: make changes to fit what kind of scheme and how

1014
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: Mike Petton wants to come in and approach it with

1015
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: the personnel that they have, because it would make far

1016
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: more sense to like you're saying, invest in that defense

1017
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: still get him the pieces he needs because Rogers with

1018
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: whoever is out there can get it done. I mean

1019
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: that's what I think. Forgot sakes, johonoiy Allison had like

1020
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: a hundred twenty yards in that game against the Bengals,

1021
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: like Jeff Janice had two touchdowns or whatever against the

1022
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals in the playoffs. So I don't know that, wouldn't

1023
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: you if you're if you're Green Bay, And again we're

1024
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: talking about the Patriots as the as this, they don't

1025
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: they everybody does work when Brady's out there, but they're

1026
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: constantly evolving bringing in new players. Don't you want to

1027
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: do that? Like, don't you want to do that? If

1028
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: you're Green Bay? Stop running out this same damn group

1029
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: that you've been running out since I don't know. To me,

1030
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: it just again, create less, create more of a margin

1031
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: for error. Would be happy to see them do that,

1032
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: but they've got a lot of holes they need to

1033
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: fill right now. I would just say, you get more

1034
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: money if you get rid of these two jokers. Jokers.

1035
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: It's it's true. I know it's there. They both carry

1036
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: huge cappits. I would be surprised if both I would

1037
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: be like shocked if both are there without restructuring at

1038
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: all or even if both are there, in general, I

1039
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: think probably gotta go. I'm gonna I'm leading towards the

1040
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: ladder there. I don't I think one or two, especially

1041
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: because they just paid atoms. I can't investablish one is

1042
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: your wide receiving cores. You just can't do it. One

1043
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: of those two guys definitely got or both. As you mentioned, Man, Yeah,

1044
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I think they think they both could go. And if

1045
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: I was going to restructure and keep one, I think

1046
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather keep Cobb because he'll probably be cheaper. I

1047
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: think also Cobb would make sense as a better compliment

1048
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: to Adams too, because a healthy Cop is still viable

1049
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: and he's just been so injured over the last few years.

1050
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: He's not the same player from Likelve, but he's still

1051
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: he can still be useful and and Cobb. I think

1052
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Geordy and just ask him to move

1053
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: to the slot and find speed on the outside. Cob

1054
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: to me, is a little bit more of a risk,

1055
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: especially because the injuries has not been able to stay

1056
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: healthy throughout his entire career. Really, um so that would

1057
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: be my concern, um is to depend on to rely

1058
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: on somebody like Randall Combo again, just can't stay on

1059
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: the field, you know what I mean. I would like

1060
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: it if they made Jordy a full time slot receiver. Yeah,

1061
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: a lot better. But just how much can you get

1062
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: his number down? How much can you because I don't

1063
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: want to pay him much at all? Yeah, you don't

1064
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: want to pay him what four? Yeah, I don't even

1065
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: want to go I don't even want to get to eight.

1066
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: That's true, I mean in today's myay, it's true. It's

1067
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: absolutely true. All right, let's do daily depth. By the way,

1068
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: you could read the entire piece NFL dot com slash

1069
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: gal hare uh there faster in chat I think the

1070
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: Packers that turned into a good old chat there. Yeah,

1071
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating chat um regarding the Packers,

1072
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: because man, they do seem to be at some kind

1073
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: of at a turning point here. I only had Gal

1074
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: hard hard give me a hard eye roll once during that.

1075
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: I consider that good. If it's only one, I will

1076
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: I will be fully prepared to make a beer bet

1077
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: with you if Jordan is on the team and capacity

1078
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: on touchdowns, give me, give me the under, give me

1079
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: the under on tennant. I don't think I'm gonna hit you,

1080
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: said tenor levens that they haven't actually set the bet.

1081
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: What's the line? Allright, let's do daily depths and get

1082
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: out of here. Sap SAPs, gaps, gaps, STAPs. I didn't.

1083
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Let's try there, it is Alex. I started catching up

1084
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: on Black Mirror again. I'm a season behind on Netflix.

1085
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: But if you guys have never watched it, it's an

1086
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: awesome show, so weirds me out. I can't handle it. Well,

1087
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: it's I was just gonna say. It's also not one

1088
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: you can binge because I watched one episode on and

1089
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, that was so heavy. Go back to

1090
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: Planet Earthy. Yeah, I can't. I need to watch some

1091
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: animals just prancing around to know you. Yeah, you need

1092
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: like an aftershot. That's that show messes you up, but

1093
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: it's so good. I need to. I need to start watch.

1094
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: I have something cute up to. Don't watch it right

1095
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: before you go to bed, Yeah, I have something cute

1096
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: up to. Like. That's why I haven't watched a lot

1097
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: of these episodes because I most of my TV watching

1098
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: happens right before I go to bed, right, you know

1099
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm like, Okay, hey, here's Black Mirror.

1100
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: Should I watch it like you want to have nightmare.

1101
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: I have the same thing, Like I need to maybe

1102
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: like a Saturday during the middle of the day when

1103
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: football than you exactly, I can take a walk afterwards, yes,

1104
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: get some tacos and think about things. But it's great.

1105
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: I mean, all the episodes are thought provoking and they

1106
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 1: really cool, and they get a It's an anthology series,

1107
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: so always get different directors and different actors and stuff

1108
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: and it's great. Um. Also, I didn't put someone on

1109
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: the list, but I wanted to give a shout out

1110
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: to all the Olympic gymnasts that have been testifying in

1111
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: court for this outrageous case with the doctor that Larry

1112
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: Naster that's actually views them and hasn't been getting a

1113
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: ton of coverage sadly. Thankfully, all these athletes stepping up,

1114
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: being incredibly courageous and like sharing their stories in front

1115
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: of their abuser has been amazing. If you haven't read

1116
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: about the story, I encourage you to do so and

1117
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: look up some of the speeches. The Ali Raisman speech

1118
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: from this past week, it was like, was incredible at

1119
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: gaming chills, um so to adapt to them for for

1120
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: doing this and for helping step up in a big time.

1121
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: And then on the lighter note, Uh, last week I

1122
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: read one of the best articles I've I've read in

1123
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: quite some time. BuzzFeed put together. It was a fake,

1124
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: it was a parody article, but it was all the

1125
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: twenty nine stages of a Twitter storm, and h I

1126
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: tweeted it out. I can tweeted out again for this podcast.

1127
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: But basically they create a fake Uh. They break down

1128
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: how things go out of control on Twitter by creating

1129
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: a fake problem. So when this one, there's a website

1130
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: called price hound that creates a shirt that says I'm

1131
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: a girl, I can only do math when I'm shopping,

1132
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: like as something that would provoke a lot of outrage.

1133
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: And then they just break down again in twenty nine

1134
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: steps how somebody gets somebody gets upset about it. They

1135
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: tweeted out a famous actor. Then he takes a screenshot

1136
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: of that person's tweet that goes viral. At one point

1137
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: not sees appear like it's on Fox News. The President's

1138
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: tweeting about it, like people like and it's so funny,

1139
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: and they make all these all these fake Twitter names

1140
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: and personalities to fit the things, and like there's also

1141
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: they have somebody that gets mistaken for the brand and

1142
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: their mentions are just getting pummeled on Twitter. Was some

1143
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: guy named William Price Hound in this who people keep

1144
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: tweeting at him thinking he's the company that made the shirt.

1145
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: The whole thing is just brilliant and it's hilarious, so

1146
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: I encourage you all to read it on your face.

1147
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: The thing when someone has a flame tweet that gets

1148
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: a tonne of pick up and then like they tweet

1149
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: under it or oh that's that. That exact thing happened

1150
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: on Friday and it was hilarious. That tweet was bad.

1151
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: I quote tweeted it was a bad tweet by someone

1152
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: about the West, the Kardashians kid's name, and uh, it

1153
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: was just funny because the BuzzFeed article is so on point.

1154
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you have to mic drop on

1155
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: your own tweet? Like you probably need to get get

1156
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: out of here like that tweets like there are tweets

1157
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: out that they're gett eleven thousand. Franchise got really bent

1158
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: out of shape about that. But anyways, the article the

1159
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: twenty nine Stages of a Twitter Storm, and it's written

1160
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: by Phillips. It's too if you spend any time on

1161
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: Twitter and you've watched any of these fever pitch things

1162
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: go bananas, Like, you'll really enjoy this artious the article

1163
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: is great, yes, and I agree, And I really enjoyed it.

1164
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: And if you spend a lot of time on the Internet,

1165
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: you should a d read it because you'll identify with it.

1166
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Then I started to think about later on in the day,

1167
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: I started to think about the article again, and I

1168
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: started to think, my god, what if anybody that doesn't

1169
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on the endnet that read

1170
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: that and would just think like it's I feel like

1171
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: it just confirms every negative like feeling that people have

1172
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: about like our generation. And I'm like, damn it, are

1173
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: we just really worthless? Like we really were? This really store?

1174
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: I had a bit of the same thought. Do you

1175
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: remember the Mina Kimes tweet? Like you realize how outrageous

1176
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: Chaps is once you try to explain somebody who's I

1177
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: think it's you realize that you spent too much time

1178
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: on the Internet when you try to explain uncle Chaps

1179
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: in real life. So wait, hold on, is this like

1180
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: an Internet It's I don't know if it's an Internet thing.

1181
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: Isn't it more of a isn't it more of a

1182
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: Twitter specific thing though? Yeah? Yeah, yeah for sure. And

1183
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: I think Twitter is like it's we act like it's

1184
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: this big giant thing, but most people aren't on Twitter,

1185
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, most most normal. Like I always marveled, like

1186
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: what what the hell does like a normal person have

1187
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: to be on Twitter for? Like, well, if so, my

1188
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: my buddies asking me too, It's like hey, what, like

1189
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: what do you use Twitter for? I'm like, what don't

1190
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: I use Yeah? Oh yeah, no, for I mean for us,

1191
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: it's news, comedy, sports, it's I don't know, live events,

1192
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: live events. Twitter is the king live events is It's

1193
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: like if you are sports or just like awards shows.

1194
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember the Oscars last year when they read

1195
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: the wrong thing when all the Lala Land people got

1196
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: up there, They're like no, no no, no, moonlight you want?

1197
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: Twitter was out of control, even, you know, to be

1198
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: a little darker, like there's like a mass shooting or

1199
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: something like I'm scrolling through Twitter to like find updates

1200
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: or any so there's so much utility for I mean,

1201
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: this is this is literally what I wrote for my

1202
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: senior thesis was like Twitter and how it's this what

1203
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: kind of experience? It is, and there's so much there's

1204
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: so much good about it, but then at the same time, like,

1205
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's so much bad and there's so

1206
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: much well obviously like with all the negativity, controlling whatever,

1207
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: but also like I feel like it just sucks you

1208
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: into this fake little reality where things are so we

1209
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: get asked, outraged by everything and all this, and it

1210
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: just I really do wonder. I was again thinking about

1211
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: this later on that night, like is this really good

1212
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: for us to be doing, to have this sort of

1213
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: like it this this quick outrage and and then it's

1214
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: so predictable and everything follows the same pattern. I mean,

1215
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 1: are we just living in like groundhog game? Twitter? From Twitter? Yes,

1216
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: just log off? I mean I want to I've been

1217
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: saying for years I want to just get away from society.

1218
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: What I mean, look, Twitter is is just like it's

1219
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: like any human. I mean, that's why people have mapped

1220
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: out the the twelve stages of anger or whatever it is,

1221
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. People go through the same

1222
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: stuff over and over and over. It doesn't matter what

1223
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: the vehicle is to carry you through. But so yeah,

1224
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: Twitter outrage will follow that same pattern, I guess. But

1225
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: it's unlike, it's unlike any other social media where really

1226
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: the weeds right now. But it's unlike any other social

1227
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: media platform, like with Facebook, or it's been like Instagram,

1228
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: it's like, Hey, look at all this cool stuff I

1229
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: do with my life. It's about brag. Yeah. But but Twitter, no, no, no,

1230
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: the other one, like Facebook, the other social media is like,

1231
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: but look at all the things I have? Yes, more

1232
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: more so than anything. Well, it's not serious. Yeah, well Instagram,

1233
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: I feel like definitely is. Facebook is kind of like

1234
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: keeping in touch with all your old family members, you

1235
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: know whatever, but your high school class jealous. But Twitter, Twitter,

1236
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: unlike anything else, it turns everybody into like a pundit,

1237
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: like you know it does. You don't have every person

1238
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: like don't have to. Everybody has a take, but everybody

1239
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: feels like they have to make an official statement about

1240
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: everything that happens, like anything that happens football wise, just

1241
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: like a non Really I feel like, should I have it?

1242
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: Should I have a tweet about like or whatever? But

1243
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: like you don't have, Like it turns everybody into a

1244
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: pundant and everybody's got a take on everything. Well, and

1245
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: I again, I just wonder if It's just it's just

1246
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: probably not good for us. I mean, we work in

1247
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: media and sports, meat and entertainment, so it's part of

1248
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: our job. But I'm always like this tweet is has

1249
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: a shelf life of two and a half minutes, Like,

1250
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: am I really going to send this out here? Yeah?

1251
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: And every and then, not only like every sports person

1252
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: then has a take about every social issue. Everybody has

1253
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: a take about everything. It's just I hate Twitter. If

1254
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: you guys know that, I hate the fact that harmon

1255
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: senior thesis on Twitter. It makes me feel very old,

1256
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: very old. You guys are all old. I'm mad online

1257
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: pretty much every day. I have a don't hate I

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Speaker 1: don't hate Twitter, but I have a complicated relationship with

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Speaker 1: have a complicated relationship with every complicated everything except for Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I think that's like your one complicated relationship. Freaking love

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Speaker 1: that dog you know who's never had to take um? Well,

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Speaker 1: just like feed me. I need to go get him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how how did we go down? I

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Speaker 1: about that BuzzFeed Twitter article was my daily Dad. We've

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Speaker 1: only gotten through one person on Daily Depth, so let's

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Speaker 1: burn through, Okay, I will Daily Death, actually Daily Depth

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Speaker 1: Alex Gelhar Thank you's a finalist here for the f

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Speaker 1: S Bider's Association for what is it the best online

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Speaker 1: article print articles from the articles I wrote for our

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Speaker 1: Bob Harris. Uh. They in the off season they put

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Speaker 1: out the magazines, the old school magazines, you know, for

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Speaker 1: US O G fantasy players that still like to have

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Speaker 1: the magazine on on draft day. UM did some rankings

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Speaker 1: and stuff for them and wrote an article on what

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Speaker 1: to spect from running backs in in bad offenses, picking

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Speaker 1: off piggybacking off of Harmon's great piece on Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: last year about why he wasn't worth the top five pick.

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Speaker 1: Got it. I love going into that a little more deeply.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens for February six, that's one

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Speaker 1: they'll announce him yet love it right after the NFL

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Speaker 1: Honors they announce it on serious serious X. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm excited about that. Anyways, good luck to you there,

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Speaker 1: but but yeah, definitely mad props for that. UM. I

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Speaker 1: will also daily dap a UM an anime that I'm

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Speaker 1: watching on Netflix called Berserk. If you want to go

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Speaker 1: watch it. It's I don't know, it's a little bit darker.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of setting medieval ish times that you've got

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Speaker 1: magic and stuff too. But whatever. Any it's an anime

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Speaker 1: on on Netflix if you want to watch it. It's

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Speaker 1: a three ninety minute movies that are all interconnected, if

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Speaker 1: you would like to watch it there, it's called Berserk.

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Speaker 1: All right, franchise what you got? I'm gonna daily dap

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Speaker 1: some food because I've been eating a lot this food

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Speaker 1: around town because I had some family in town. Blacks

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Speaker 1: Deli in uh in West Hollywood, amazing Italian sandwich. They're

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Speaker 1: super spot, super famous spot. Great oysterial. Lebuca is an

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Speaker 1: Italian spot melrose By by the Paramount Studios. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you, dude, the best. That is one of the

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Speaker 1: best Italian meals I've ever had. Would you get? I

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Speaker 1: got a I think it was a squidding pasta with

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Speaker 1: the gosh I can't remember, but yeah, we got there

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Speaker 1: was There was four of us. We got four dishes

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Speaker 1: of pasta and like split them all and it's quickly

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Speaker 1: rising up my ranks as best pasta. It's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the best, like pasta pasta, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's all homemade or freshly made pasta. But

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Speaker 1: but it's so legit it's unbelievable. And then I had

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Speaker 1: actually had ramen for the first time last night budled

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Speaker 1: urban ramen in Hollywood, had a little spicy chicken bowl

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Speaker 1: and hate hate non ramen. He just doesn't had good

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Speaker 1: ramen like salty noodles. Man, Well, yeah, they're noodlest Man. Wait,

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Speaker 1: have you been to a legit ramen spot? Though? No?

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Speaker 1: Well then, so it's just so easy to get you

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Speaker 1: idiots riled up. It's not ramen, isn't the same as

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Speaker 1: like the sixteen cent top ramen that is literally sodium

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Speaker 1: and noodles. I'm aware, But again, it's just so easy

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Speaker 1: to get you idiots riled up with what all You're

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Speaker 1: crapping on something you've never had. That's not fair. So

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Speaker 1: so it goes back to Harmon's point of it's so

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Speaker 1: easy to roll you guys. It did trigger all of us,

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Speaker 1: all of them, and which in which in that case,

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Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, sometimes when I throw something out

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Speaker 1: there like that, I don't know what the reaction is

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Speaker 1: going to be. But then when I see it, like

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Speaker 1: five of you get hooked right away, then I'm like

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Speaker 1: all right, time to double down. Let's crank this up

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Speaker 1: to eleven. Have you had fun before? No, I've said

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Speaker 1: I've I've never had that because I've never had fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh you haven't had fun. I've had fun and you

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Speaker 1: haven't had ramen. I said, Okay, I'm just not really

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Speaker 1: like I said later, I was like, I'm not really

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Speaker 1: big noodles, guy, noodles a kind of overrated. Noodles are

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Speaker 1: like the best thing the that's crest to the grass,

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Speaker 1: like the glass scratching his head like one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a whole grain pasta. I'm in on that. Wow,

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Speaker 1: let's move on. What about if it's a cauliflower? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you're in if you can roll that dope

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Speaker 1: in there? What happened to this episode? Just off the

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Speaker 1: rails account? Yeah? What do you got? I think of this?

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Speaker 1: But uh, I gotta give a daily dap to the

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Speaker 1: uh the Culver City Hotel. Okay, there for drinks on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Very fun, good spot, good menu, was like, like,

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Speaker 1: I should be here more often. This is like a

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Speaker 1: classy place to have a drink. You know. Did they

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Speaker 1: have the live like band there? No, they were setting

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Speaker 1: up they did, but they were setting up when we

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Speaker 1: it's within your bubble. It's got to be in the bubble.

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Speaker 1: Gott to stay in the bubble, gotta stay in that bubble.

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Speaker 1: Bubble grass, what you got West Coast guys. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to Mobile for the Senior Bowl, taking a flight down

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Speaker 1: the will be there until Friday, doing some stuff with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Excited to see Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, big names. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's let us know at the first rounders. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: call you, text, text co there forty times. I will, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get you on this podcast. We're gonna call you.

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Speaker 1: Better have your phone on your pal. I'll be ready

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Speaker 1: thy morning. But also, I forgot we should give a

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Speaker 1: larger daily adapts to Chris in general, who is rising

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Speaker 1: up the ranks with the Chargers and going to be

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Speaker 1: leaving us for bigger and better opportunities soon. Right, we've

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Speaker 1: got You've got a couple more episodes. But but I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're not burying you yet, but I wanted to give

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Speaker 1: you a shout out and DAPs for the Oh god,

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Speaker 1: I threw my phone. The opportunities and climbing up over that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it makes it makes sense of like the

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Speaker 1: five of us Chris included on this podcast right now,

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Speaker 1: he is objectively the best looking and has the best voice.

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Speaker 1: He's producing. No, no, me. Meanwhile, meanwhile, we gotta listen

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Speaker 1: to us for idiots. Yeah, like, yeah, hars got what

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Speaker 1: the hell just happened? Spot that no wonder is rising?

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Speaker 1: I'm like here, that's what I'm saying. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: should he should be the face of something. It's a

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Speaker 1: good looking face and he's got a good face. And

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Speaker 1: he pulled a Rabel. He took one year of a

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Speaker 1: coordinator and it's now going to be a head coach somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the way. I hope Rabel doesn't flame out.

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Speaker 1: Rabel and Chris BSP there you go there it is, alright,

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Speaker 1: what an incredible show we had today, wild incredible, incredible,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the word for it. For

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Speaker 1: that franchise. Matt Harmon, Alex gal har and Chris Hey,

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Speaker 1: Rya James co We'll see you later.